WEBVTT - Ali Wentworth Makes Alec Laugh 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.200 I'm Alec Baldwin and you were listening to Here's the 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:10.160 Thing from My Heart Radio. Ali Wentworth has a lot 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:16.160 of titles, actor, comedian, New York Times bestselling author, wife, mother, 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:21.000 and podcast host. I'll add another title, one of the 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.319 funniest people I know. You may recognize Ali went Worth 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:30.560 as Jerry's girlfriend Schmoopy on Seinfeld's classic Soup Nazi episode, 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.640 or from her more than one hundred appearances on The 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.199 Tonight Show, or from when she was a correspondent on 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.680 Oprah Winfries Show. You may also have read one of 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.960 her best selling books, Ali in Wonderland, Happily Ali After, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.760 and the latest Go Ask Ali, which shares a name 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.960 with the podcast she launched last year. I have gotten 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.680 the biggest get in the entertainment world. It's not Beyonce, 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.920 it's my daughter Ellie. It's Stephanopolis. I'm talking about growing 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.320 a teenager in a pandemic, and you are a teenager 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.360 in a pandemic, and you're my teenager in a pandemic. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.400 Ali and I have been friends for a while, and 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:16.000 I've long admired her fearlessness and poking fun at herself 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.480 and at others, including me. Are you taking precautions not 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.080 to have more kids, if I may be so bold, 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.880 because I feel like there's another eight to ten in you. 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.760 My wife and I always struggled with that, which is 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.520 you have a baby and you sit, don't go, I 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.479 think great? Aren't think so great? What's one more? Yeah? 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.440 We do that. We do that with dogs because puppies 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.920 are cute, just as cute as babies. So I get it. 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.320 I understand. I wish you guys could have some more 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.800 for us because one of ours is going to college 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.720 in the fall. Let me ask you about that. You 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.640 got married when you were how old and you had 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.760 your first kid, you in your how old? So it 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.720 was not the typical you know, and believe me, that 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.560 was the right thing to do. I keep telling my 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.640 daughters do not rush into marriage, because everybody I know 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.360 that got married and their twenties is divorced. Now, I 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.840 don't think you're the same person in your twenties that 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:18.560 you are in your mid thirties. But when you got married, 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.560 and you, certainly, I guess from the get go, didn't 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.280 rule out having kids. Did you say to yourself, is 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.240 going to affect my work? Not? Once you didn't think 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.720 about that at all. Now, well, I don't think I 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.200 was ever big or famous enough to think that it 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.920 would affect my work. And I was certainly not known 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.720 for my body, if you know what I mean. So 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.200 it never felt like that. What I did was when 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.800 I married George, we moved to d C so he 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.239 could do his Sunday show this week. And so I thought, 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.760 all right, how do I recalibrate everything, how do I 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.160 pivot and so that I can have a career. But 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.720 I live in Washington, d C. Which is you know, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.919 if you're an actor, it doesn't exist, you know. So 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.600 I started writing. I started writing a book, and then 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.880 Oprah hired me so I would go to Chicago once 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.800 a week, which was a fantastic job. So I tried 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.280 to figure out a way to have some kind of 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.520 a career. But here at the end of the day, 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.840 you know, not to use a disgusting word, but george 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.360 career it trumped mine, you know what I mean. It 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.520 was really like we had to kind of go where 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.800 he went. So no, I mean, I understand, but I 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.280 just was thinking that, you know, you are someone and 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.640 I don't say this, you know, just to be pleasant 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.079 or whatever. I mean, Please do No, but I think 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.680 you're really fucking funny. I mean you're funny. Thank you, Alex. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:40.720 And if someone came to you now and they said 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.240 to you, you're gonna do a four camera sitcom in 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.200 New York and you're gonna shoot eighteen episodes or twenty 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.440 two episodes with the answer byes or do you like 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.600 the way things are now, which is you work a 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.000 little bit, you don't have to work, I'd say yes, 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:56.160 they're ground, they have their own independent lives. I'm used 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.720 for you, No, used for me. They know how to 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.560 make a sandwich. I'm needier than ever. And also I'm 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.280 faced with mortality. You know, I got my shelf life 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.800 is you know, unless they're going to reboot The Golden Girls, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.640 even those girls were like in their mid fifties. Yeah, 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.160 So I would absolutely do that. And there are things 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.880 that we would adjust. You know, when I did Nightcap, 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.000 which you and your wife were on and we're so hilarious, 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.159 there are you know. I created a couple of shows 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.640 that took a lot of energy, and in one show, 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:30.080 Headcase About, I played a very dysfunctional shrink. We were 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.040 shooting in l A and I was going back and 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.039 forth in the Red Eye and I got shingles because 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.640 I was completely stressed out. And that's when I said 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.560 I can't work in l A. I wonder for you. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.840 I mean you've worked and then you raised your kids 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.680 and you worked less than you might have because I 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.400 mean I view you as somebody who you could just 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.599 be working all the time. You could be doing starring 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.640 in a show, uh in network sitcom twenty two episodes. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.479 I mean, whatever you want to do, you'd have no 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.320 problem doing it. Yeah, although there for me there's a 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:01.040 different thing, which is I just have no like what 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.200 the funk is how I think about everything? Now? Great, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.080 if you said to me, right now, let's go do 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.640 love Letters at the Warp Theater, I go, great, let's 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.080 do it, like I have nothing to lose, and I'm 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.360 excited for anything that's sort of new and different and 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.800 happy to perform because I'm not so focused on myself 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.960 anymore at all. When you did Nightcap, whose idea was 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.400 that you? Was that all completely self generating? Yes? And 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.760 how many episodes did you do? We did two seasons 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:32.280 of about thirty something and it it mad? Yeah? How 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.360 many episodes per season? God? We did? I want to 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.400 say sixteen or so, I mean a lot. But the 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.560 great thing about that show was I used to do 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.599 the Tonight Show all the time. Jay Leno had me 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.080 on all like, I did it over a hundred times, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.600 and I didn't necessarily have anything to promote. They would 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.120 call me and say, you know, Melanie Griffith has a fluke, 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.200 can you be here in twenty minutes? And I would 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.159 go in and just tell funny stories. And I'm not 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.560 a stand up comedian, so I would really just have 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.720 to pull stuff from my life and why I was there. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.880 I would see the most incredible things, like from celebrities, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.520 you know, because I was always the second guest, and 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.760 you know, just like I remember one guy came in 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.520 movie Star, and his stylists came in with racks and 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.440 racks of the same white shirt and the same pair 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.599 of jeans, so he was going to decide right before 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.880 he went up. You know, just crazy stuff. Or the 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.800 publicist and the actress were not coming out of the 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.680 wardrobe room because they were having sex, and the p 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.000 as are running around going like you know where, And 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.159 I just thought, this is the show who gives a 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.680 ship with what the actors say or promoting their movie 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.599 that whatever is happening behind here is that is the show. Now. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:44.320 You came from a very proper family, correct, Yes, how 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.440 would you describe it? You came from what kind of family? 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:52.080 Dysfunctional but proper, proper? Yes, Yeah, I went to boarding school. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.120 My mother was Social secretary of the Reagan White House. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.680 Only Democrat in the Reagan White House. Yeah. My stepfather 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.159 was one of the editors of the London Sunday Times 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.000 in chief foreign correspondent, and my father was a reporter 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.520 during Watergate for the Washington Post. So I grew up 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.720 in that world. And when you went into this business, somebody, 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.560 did your family have a different plan for you? Listen 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.600 for my family, when I said I want to be 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:20.000 an actor, they thought it was just a phase. I'd 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:21.800 grow out of it. And then I said no, no, no no, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.240 I'm going to be an actor. And then my mother 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.320 was basically like, well, then just go be a whore. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.920 Then just go go to a brothel and put your 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.920 name on the So they didn't get it at all. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.240 At least Las Vegas is sunny, Yes, go to the 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.360 Mustang ranch. It's warm there, yes, and if you can dance, 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:42.480 even better, So I you know, left all that. I 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.000 went to l A. I didn't know anybody. I had 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.600 no connections in that world at all. And how old 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.000 you went to l A right out of college, right 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.000 out of n y U. Yep, so four years at 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.320 y U. Four years at n y U for what 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.280 acting circle in the Square? And somebody at William Morris 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:00.680 came to see me in a play and he said, 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.440 you have a nice generic girl next door best friend. Look, 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.160 you should go to l A. And I went all right, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.480 all right, sure, yeah, sure, And so I went to 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.560 l A. And I thought that I would eventually marry 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.320 Hugh Grant or Matthew Perry or one of those guys. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.560 And the head of the studio, Yeah, well if my 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.280 boobs are bigger. But then I met George and I, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:29.280 you know, it was like the Godfather comedian Ali Wentworth. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.640 When it comes to great episodes from the Here's the 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.760 Thing Archives, you can always check out my episode with 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:40.679 Mr Ali Wentworth, George Stephanopoulos, or for more funny women 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.480 who can really write, my conversation with Paula Pell, who 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.120 was a writer at Saturday Night Live for nearly twenty years. 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.960 I was always a bit of a class clown, I 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.080 really pushed the envelope because I would be funny in 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.400 class and I do things like one of my teachers. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.760 I would go by him and drag my hand along 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.280 the chuck shelf, and then I'd come over and I'd say, 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.440 you know, Mr gracer're just a really great teacher, and 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.000 I pat him on the back and I'd leave like 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.440 a handprint. He'd let me make him a little bit 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.880 the fool for a moment, and then he'd do you know, 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.800 he looked like Rob Briner and all in the family 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.640 at the big bushy mustache and along there he just 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.040 kind of looked a camera three, you know, non existent, 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.080 and the audience, would you know, the audience, the class 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:25.880 would crack up. Here more of my conversation with Paula 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.920 pell at Here's the Thing dot Org. When we come back, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.960 Ali talks about being set up on a blind date 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:48.920 with George Stephanopoulos. I'm Alec Baldwin and you were listening 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.520 to Here's the Thing. In the spring of two thousand one, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.240 Ali Wentworth was newly back in New York City and 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:01.240 found herself talked into a life changing lunch. Where did 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.880 you first see him face to face in personal at Fred's, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.440 which was the restaurant at Barney's on sixty one to Madison. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.520 That's where we were going to meet. And of course 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.240 I knew who he was. He was George Chephanopolis. It 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.680 was a blind date ish, I mean I knew who 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.439 he was, of course, But who set you up on 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.559 the date? An old friend of his that worked in 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.439 the White House with him. Why didn't they think that 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.960 would be a good match? We were going to swap. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.280 I offered up my older brother who was in l A, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:32.640 who worked for David Lynch, and she offered up George, thinking, 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.280 you know, George was a one date wonder like. He 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.240 never got serious, so it was very easy for her 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.320 to trade him up because she knew he wouldn't go 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.840 on a second date with me. He wasn't married before, 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.960 never never lived with anybody. I'm the first person he said, 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.840 I love you too, my virgin bride. So when we 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.360 were being set up, I was not interested. And George 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.520 gives me so much shit about it because he said, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.120 that's not true, that's not true. But I was in 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.600 He was not my type. I didn't want anybody from 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.640 the political world. I like a tall, Simian looking man 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.960 and so he was just you know, I thought, this 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.920 will be my you know, my date with George Stephanopolis. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.080 It will be like a New Yorker article someday, you 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.440 know what I mean, part of my routine. Yeah, part 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.040 of my routine, which it has become anyway. But I 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:21.920 didn't shower it and shut my legs. I wore a 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.280 black suit because that meant smart to me. I read 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.760 the New York Times, the financial section. I read the 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.640 whole thing, and I thought, we'll have a really interesting 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.280 intellectual conversation and that'll be that. And I got to 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.000 Fred's and there was George in in Armani suit that 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.480 was way too big with the shoulder pads, and I went, 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.200 all right, all right, don't be shallow. Look beyond it, 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.640 look beyond it. And we sat down. The first thing 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.840 we talked about was antidepressants. What are you on? What 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.520 are you want? And I thought, okay, this is good. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.200 This is the glue. This is the glue. And we 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.920 both ordered crab salad. And afterwards he walked me out 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.480 and he shook my hand. Now, in l A, where 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.640 I was living, if you went out with somebody and 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.240 they shook your hand, they weren't interested. If they didn't 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.120 drag you by the hair like a caveman into their 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.160 gross bachelor pad in West Hollywood, then they weren't interested. 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.920 So and George, but it is very nice to meet you, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.080 and I went, oh Jesus, okay, very nice to meet you. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:20.719 And then that night he called me and said, do 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.520 you want to come out again? And I didn't play 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.560 the game. I don't know how to play games. So 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.600 I said to him, Yep, I'm free to night. I'm 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.719 free tomorrow night. Listen. I'm supposed to go away for 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.839 the weekend with my mom and sisters, but I'll blow 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.920 that off. You liked him, I did like him. What 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.920 about him? Did you like? I was attracted to him, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.520 which I did not think I would be. I found 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.360 him it'd still do very sexy, and I found his 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:48.520 brain very sexy. And he had smile. And I've written 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.280 about it and I've said it's like a good melon. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:54.080 But it felt like, oh, you're my people, my wife, 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.680 same thing, like the way she looked, her hair, color, 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.480 her voice, old of it. I was like, oh God, 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.679 she's might dream girl. You know. I felt that way 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.280 when I met her too. By the way, but you 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.800 and my wife had a very intimate moment on the show. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.680 It was really well and I wrote that for a reason. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:12.439 I wrote, to have your wife's vagina on my face 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.480 for about six seconds, and you got, as they say, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.720 and bye bye, Bertie. You got a lot of little 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.480 to do, or as I like to say, I got 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:25.880 a whiff and I get it. So so anyway, yes, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.960 all that stuff, all that chemical stuff happened. Chemistry, Yes, 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.040 And that weekend I was going to a spa with 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.199 my mother and my sisters, and I spent the whole 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.360 time on the phone with George. They were all yoga 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.679 ing and eating brand muffins, and I was at Canyon 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.760 Ranch with my head out the window, chain smoking and 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.880 talking to George the whole time. Every once in a 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.240 while they come back and they, you know, throw some 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.400 almond butter at me. And then we were engaged two 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.240 months later, and that felt like it took a long 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:59.160 time he did. It took me two whole fucking months 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.080 to close this, like hello, hello. And then he we 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.040 went to Greece and I knew that he had a ring. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.640 How did you know his nephew dealt in jewelry? I 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.480 don't know what that means, but it sounds shady. But 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.000 he dealt in jewelry and George had to go at 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.640 breakfast with him the day we were leaving for Greece, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.280 and I thought, there's only one reason he would meet 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.960 his nephew. He deals in jewelry, and I it was 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.000 in his knapsacks. The whole way to Greece, I kept 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.520 hiding his knapsack in the lounge and on the plane, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.560 just because I'd like to see him sweat, really suck 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.400 him up. And then we we were in Micanos and 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.040 he proposed to me. And I have to tell you, 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:39.800 not ever being a celebrity myself, I had no idea 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.720 until he proposed to me in Micaos, and somehow the 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.360 press found out about it, and we had photographers all 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.920 over the rocks across the water from our hotel, and 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.080 we would walk down the street and there'd be thirty 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.160 paparazzi all over us, and George's hand would be sweating 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.400 and he'd say like, oh my god, I'm so sorry, Ali, 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:03.280 I'm so sorry. I was like, what are you talking? Yeah, George, 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.480 could you step back from them? When you're in my light? George, 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.320 you wants singles? Guys who wants singles. I mean, you know, 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.400 I all but took my shirt off. It was all 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.120 very exciting that first time, you know, that kind of 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:17.240 Tom and Nicole moment, and then and then it was horrible, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.800 but it was fun for that day. Now, that magical 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.760 moment I'm making us when he finally found the knapsack 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.640 that you hit under the rocks and said, oh, some 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.880 guy came in. I think that guy in the bicycle 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.040 there just stole the knapsack. George run, George run. When 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.120 when you did all that at the moment that he 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.000 presents you with the ring, were you both on antidepressants 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.440 at that moment or did you abstain? I was? He 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.880 was off by then. I think the White House really 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.040 took it out of him. But then I was still on, 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.440 definitely still on. And in fact, the funny you should 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.240 bring that up because we went on our honeymoon and 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.720 I decided to self regulate and self medicate, and I 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.560 decided I didn't need antidipressence anymore. I didn't realize that 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.480 you taper off, you know, so I just my cold 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.600 turkey and that was bad because I was naked in 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.720 the fetal position in our bathroom. It was it was 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.840 apocalypse now covered in bird poop. They found you in 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.280 the pond with all the cranes covered in crane plamingo 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.400 leg in my mouth, and I don't know how it happened. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:21.960 So I had to get zola FedEx to the Caribbean. Yeah. Well, 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.520 it's funny because in my lifetime, if I've ever taken 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.720 things which were like sleep aids, I've got horrible insomnia. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.480 And I have all my adult life. I'm thirty five 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.440 years sober. I've been in an A thirty this year 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.640 was thirty. Congratulations, Well thank you. And I always tell 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.200 people that I haven't slept since the day I got sober. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.640 Once I stopped drinking, I couldn't sleep. So I have 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.720 really really like at times, I have like crippling insomnia, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.400 Like I sleep like maybe three hours a night, you 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.800 know what I mean. And the problem with it is 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.640 if I took any kind of drugs and it didn't help, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.440 I woke up tired and groggy. So I got very, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.520 very nervous about any kind of medication because God knows, 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.720 if I found one that worked, i'd be I wouldn't 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:02.600 even be talking to you right now. Bueau. Well, I um, 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:06.600 I took ambient once I was in l A and 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.880 I come from New York and time difference, blah blah, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:14.480 block took ambient, went to the Malibu Mart, that shopping 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.120 center in Malibu, and BT six genes of the exact 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.760 same gene in the exact same size, And I don't 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.280 remember doing it. I also got an email the next 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.840 day from Pottery Barn Kids asking what address did I 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:33.520 want the Princess canopy bed delivered? Don't remember well. One 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:34.960 thing I would do when I was in the kind 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.320 of love craft Ian baffles of my insomnia, I'd sit 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.560 there and I'd start to buy things online, like antique 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.199 alarm clocks. I'd I'd be like, you know, I'm like, 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.119 where's this guy in Germany? They probably have better alarm 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:49.920 clocks in Germany than here. How much does he want 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.800 for the alarm clock? Eight dollars? And I could probably 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:54.679 get the same thing at a flea market in Syracuse 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.080 for like thirty I don't care, I want it. Do 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.840 you meditate? I do now. I do a lot of 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.679 deep breathing. I do what's called classical breathing, when you 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.879 try to literally fill your lungs up to where you 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.360 almost can feel your lungs at the bottom of your 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.240 chin if you breathe deep enough. And I do this 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.480 very deep breathing meditation thing to sleep, and it does work. 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.560 But one time I take an ambient like I work, work, work, work, work, 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.000 and it gets to be eleven o'clock at night or 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.120 twelve o'clock at night, and I'm like, okay, sleep one 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.960 to three sleep, Simon says, sleep, And I can't sleep. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.960 So I take the ambient. Nothing happens. I take another one. 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.119 Nothing happened. I take the third one. I think I 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:32.920 took the third and the fourth one. Then all of 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:34.800 a sudden, I'm like, I'm literally living in then and 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.440 I'm watching you know, Jimmy Falloner and and my daughter 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.600 Ireland calls and I think, like, while I'm on the 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.679 phone call she's in California. She was like fourteen, and 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.680 I go, um, so I think maybe tomorrow I'm gonna 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:51.720 get a ticket. I'm like your your berver raw. I 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:57.199 go out an Island's going dad, Dad, And I go, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.440 this is a true story. And I go I'm okay 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:05.840 until the pound uh to the pound, and I'm playing 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.880 them no I'm like, how in two thousand one they're 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.800 disconnecting care delays, disconnecting my circuits. And the next thing 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:16.879 you know, I hear bang Nay nick nick name, nick 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:21.160 name on the service elevator door of my apartment. It's 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.720 three firemen with axes, Oh my god, and an E. M. T. 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:27.880 Menic and they're like, we got a phone call, Mr 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.000 ball when we're really sorry, we got a call from 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:31.800 your daughter. You have to put your clothes and come 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:33.919 with us, sir, right now, to the hospital. And I'm like, 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:40.320 I don't roll you're joking about, or you a fireman, 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.320 or this is this trigger dreat. You want some guarandy, 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.840 Like I'm so out of it. They take me, make 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.439 me get dressed. I'm in the bathroom, they take me, 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.240 they take me to the hospital and I go, okay. 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.240 I started to stop up very quickly, and I go 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.120 I took one too many ambient because they weren't working. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.800 They were like, uh huh sure, Mr Ballman, Sure, And 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.439 I never took another one of those fucking things again. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:10.199 My daughter called the police because she thought I was odin. 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.200 But good for Ireland to know how to do that. 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.679 I think ambient is dangerous you do. Yes, Yes, people 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.600 have all these crazy ambience stories. I took him away 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:21.760 from George because he was taking them for a while. 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.280 He only sleeps like four or five hours anyway, because 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.359 of his schedule. Yeah, we go to bed at eight 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.320 and thirty and I go with him. That's love. That's love. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.320 Now you go to sleep, or you just lay next 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.200 him and you're like on YouTube. No no phones allowed 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.560 in the bed and no TV. You're in bed and 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.520