1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Single best idea on a Monday, What are you trying 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: to accomplish here? Everyone's listening to twenty minute podcasts, including 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: David Gura in The Big Take, and that's the way 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: the industry's gone. What we're trying to do is slip 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: in a shorter conversation six seven minutes and generally two 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 2: insights from our many guests. And in any given day 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: we can pick three, four or five six insights. But 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: I really decided to keep the podcast short. We hope 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: it fits into your daily podcast schedule. And thank you 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: to Apple for driving the podcast industry forward and Apple 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Podcast as well. The single best idea today could have 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: been any number of voices. We start strawing with a 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: gentleman who is pretty much congenerally said, disinflations in order, 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: and of course David Rosenberg gets all fired up up 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: in Toronto when disinflation is in order, he would suggests 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: the FED is behind David Rosenberg on what the FED 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: will do next. 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that they have to wait wait wait. 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: I think that the FED is still somewhat shamed for 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: having missed nine percent inflation in the summer of twenty 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: twenty two and leaning so hard on transitory. Although eighteen 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: months in real time doesn't sound transitory, but in the 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: overall annals of economic history, eighteen months is still pretty transitory. 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: But they still seem to be fighting for their credibility, 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: you know, when they talk about that they need more confidence, 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: just saying that they need more months or many more 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: months of the disinflation trend that really dominated most of 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: last year. So I think that part of it is 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: that basically the horrible memory of what happened in twenty 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: twenty one twenty twenty two and blowing the call. And 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons I think that they're going 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: to be deliberately slow to start cutting interest rates, but 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: I think when they do, they're going to be pretty significant. 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: David Rosenberg there and just literally, as we're always in 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: the interviews, when Paul's leading the conversation, I'm out looking 37 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: at all the zeitgeist and that, And literally as Rosenberg 38 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: was on, there was Paul Krugman, the laureate, writing of 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: course for the New York Times, and Professor Krugman out 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: on Twitter saying, look, x shelter core inflation is one 41 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: point nine percent, So this gives you some idea of 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: the trend. Jason Furman up at Harvard would put the 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: ecumenical set of x number of inflation series at a 44 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: higher level than the drama of one point nine percent. 45 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: But certainly the inflation report that we saw continues to resound. Tomorrow, 46 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: we'll have a retail sales which is a nominal number. 47 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: That'll be interesting to see if that comes in light. 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Is a nominal number again that could be market moving 49 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: showing lower prices in retail. Again, any number of good guests. 50 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: It was just wonderful to have Vanila Richardson in with 51 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: ADP with automatic data processing, talking brilliantly on our paychecks 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: and the calculations of adpcs with their almost monopoly, i'll say, 53 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: on the market. Before her, Stephanie Roth was with this, 54 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: Stephanie Roth of Wolf Research, and Stephanie is magnificently math 55 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: driven and statistics driven, data driven. Here's Stephanie Roth on 56 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: the data the reality of America's immigration. 57 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: So when you think about the steady state of payrolls growth, 58 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: forgetting about immigration, we're talking somewhere there's domestic growth of 59 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: eighty five to one hundred thousand. That's without sort of 60 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: strong immigration trends. Immigration trends roughly double that, double, roughly 61 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: double that. So, for example, the Biden administration humanitarian parole programs, 62 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 4: which is bringing in people from Mexico and then Cuba 63 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: hating nik Grogua Venezuela, bringing in seventy five thousand people 64 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: per month and they're able to get a work visa 65 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: within thirty days. 66 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: Stephanie were out there and she went on was a 67 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: really fabulous conversation about something everybody in economics is working 68 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: on right now is a mystery of immigration. It's been 69 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: with us for so much of two hundred plus years, 70 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: but the new immigration and what it means in course 71 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: a huge part of the political election. I do want 72 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: to know David Gera driving on our coverage of the 73 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: debates coming up. That'll be really interesting to see the 74 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: CNN debate. We'll have David in to give us perspective 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: as there Greg Giau of Bloomberg Government in today as well. 76 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: It is the beginning of an eventful week any number 77 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: of themes. 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