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Speaker 1: So all right, sorerin Baker, I'm in the buildings. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me.
Speaker 3: Off journalists extraordinary super journalists and my man a was
Speaker 3: out last week. How you feeling, you're good?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm straight. Everything good for sure? For sure.
Speaker 3: Man, there's a lot of real interesting shit going on
Speaker 3: in that list. Don't have a few of the rapper
Speaker 3: only's upset dog.
Speaker 5: They ain't nobody, you know. I haven't heard any comments.
Speaker 5: I've seen a few comments.
Speaker 3: But you know, the funniest thing is when they get
Speaker 3: mad and because they missed their name on the list,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well you on that, bro, you don't
Speaker 3: see it. You're right down at number twenty six, twenty seven.
Speaker 5: They said, both of y'all fucked up for y'all crazy
Speaker 5: is hell? Y'all ain't got no Sebo, y'all crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of the He's one of the greats,
Speaker 1: that's for sure.
Speaker 5: Like that, what I you? The bowl is a gangster?
Speaker 5: How How how come Sebo had no album on the list?
Speaker 3: Hey man, Sebo? For me, Sebull came in like rong,
Speaker 3: number fifty three, fifty four. He was close to it.
Speaker 3: But you gotta understand something. If you put Sebull in here,
Speaker 3: if you bump somebody out and put him in, then
Speaker 3: you have another person. But why you didn't have him?
Speaker 3: You can't everybody can't be in the top fifty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think people's opinion of when you say
Speaker 5: and gangster rap, how can you not consider Sigo he
Speaker 5: is he is the most West Coast gangster gangster gangster?
Speaker 5: You know, how can you now Seboll do great work?
Speaker 5: But you know what I got for all the can
Speaker 5: you have somebody like the Loonies or mob deep over
Speaker 5: somebody who represents criptit as far as a gangster.
Speaker 3: So because every nigga is a Cripinogos had the album
Speaker 3: and the.
Speaker 5: Tough for because well that's because people are saying, y'all
Speaker 5: are calling it gangster rap. Well, who's who's gangster? So
Speaker 5: you're saying a nigga in New York is gangster more
Speaker 5: than a nigga claiming a crypt set in Sacramento.
Speaker 3: Well, you know the thing is.
Speaker 5: And I'm just saying because this is what this is
Speaker 5: what the the questions that are being presented as far
Speaker 5: as you know, because niggas just they have their opinions
Speaker 5: about what's a gangster rap album?
Speaker 3: And I have a solution for all them people out there. Listen,
Speaker 3: I got this, I got I got no. I ain't
Speaker 3: gona get a nigga a solution for all of them.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna get niggave because that's what it is,
Speaker 3: just an opinion, right right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you the secret to all this big dog and this
Speaker 3: this is soft everything. Go one, victual Pin, pick up
Speaker 3: a piece of paper and you can write your own
Speaker 3: list and you can have wherever you want to in there.
Speaker 5: But as a normal citizen and a motherfucker who don't
Speaker 5: have a billion download platform podcast, has there gangster chronic
Speaker 5: like Sawing Baker who's been on all kind of you know, platforms,
Speaker 5: and you know, got a book out about rap and
Speaker 5: all of that. I'm just a regular truck driving nigga
Speaker 5: who go to work from nine to five. I'm not
Speaker 5: making no gangster. You the expert. How can you not
Speaker 5: have ce Ball?
Speaker 3: I feel like you know what, man, And don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong, A lot of thought went into this shit though.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm gonna get I'm gonna get on you too.
Speaker 3: So and because a lot of uthers had to be
Speaker 3: about how can you not have dog? Pound mother fuckers
Speaker 3: when you know what, and that's I'm I'm gonna read
Speaker 3: my list first of all. Right now, I'm gonna read
Speaker 3: the list.
Speaker 6: Well as far as dog Pound Dazz is like nigga,
Speaker 6: I'm gangster rap, well dad, and you have a lists.
Speaker 1: Is on the chronic ands.
Speaker 5: On doggy now, not as all here, I'm the dog Pound, Dazz, Dillagers, Gangster,
Speaker 5: Long Beach, twenty first Street cripping. Again, these are what
Speaker 5: people look at as y'all niggas talking about where does
Speaker 5: gangster come from? Right right? Because that's their opinion. Like
Speaker 5: I said, we got gangster shit that I felt like.
Speaker 5: I listened to gangster records from here to New York.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, ghetto boys gripping on another level. That
Speaker 5: was gangster to me. Absolutely Home three two the convicts,
Speaker 5: that was gangster shit to me. But you know how
Speaker 5: some people feel like, you know we from right now?
Speaker 3: I got you.
Speaker 5: We're from the West Coast, We from Compton, Lone Beach, Watts,
Speaker 5: South Central. Fuck it. Even if you want to go
Speaker 5: up to the Bay Area in Oakland and Sacramento, you
Speaker 5: know we are the epitome of gangsters, cripping, blood and
Speaker 5: you know, on wax, banging on wax. So how you
Speaker 5: know that's the opinions again of some other cats who
Speaker 5: feel like but the niggas from the beach, me.
Speaker 1: From the East Siders are on my list.
Speaker 5: East Side they was twenty first Street, you know, insane
Speaker 5: rolling twenties, like, how can they not be in your
Speaker 5: consideration of the fifty top gangster rap right?
Speaker 3: So, I don't know if we give more gangs in this.
Speaker 3: This is the top ten number one Snoop Dog doggy
Speaker 3: Style two ice Cube Death Certificate, three Doctor Dreda Chronic
Speaker 3: four Easy Easy does It? Five n w A Niggas
Speaker 3: for Life, six Ghetto Boys, We Can't be Stopped? Seven
Speaker 3: fifty get Richard Datrum, which was against them, Hey darthor
Speaker 3: Dreda Chronic two thousand and one, nine ice Cube America's
Speaker 3: most teena scarface to Fix eleven n W three out
Speaker 3: of Compton m C. Eight We Come Strapped, Ice t
Speaker 3: Ryan pays fourteen bone Thugs Harmony East nineteen ninety nine
Speaker 3: Eternal that was against them.
Speaker 5: Which you consider that more gangster than a dog food? No,
Speaker 5: but let me finish. No, I'm just saying, though those
Speaker 5: are your top fifteen whatever. But you can consider Bone
Speaker 5: Thugs more gangster than the dog pound, dazz and corrupt.
Speaker 3: This is music.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not who's more gangs and it's still music
Speaker 5: because because still in the aspect of the dog pound
Speaker 5: versus ball Thugs and armony, dog pounds still is more gangster.
Speaker 1: But that's a different conversation here.
Speaker 3: That's a different conversation. Now, if I'm picking some motherfuckers,
Speaker 3: do you.
Speaker 1: Know who represents cripping the hardest? Then that's a different
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, that's a different question.
Speaker 3: And then this is what I say right here, they
Speaker 3: told about three shit, you know you've got the first.
Speaker 5: Or maybe maybe maybe the aspects should have been more
Speaker 5: on street records instead of gangster because when you go gangster,
Speaker 5: niggas are gonna go. How can you say Bone Thugs
Speaker 5: is more gangster than us? Right, you get me, because
Speaker 5: that's what they consider gangster rap. Let's let's put it
Speaker 5: in let's go to the West coast in general. Feet Oh,
Speaker 5: straight up. Absolutely, they didn't start saying gangster rap because
Speaker 5: of us.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: If Bone Thugs in harmony came out whatever, they would
Speaker 5: never been called gangster rap. They would beat Bone thugs
Speaker 5: in harmony, right, you give me. But because the symbolization
Speaker 5: of gangsters came from West Coast niggas going with crips
Speaker 5: and bloods. Okay, So niggas like Easy started talking about
Speaker 5: boys in the hood because we were hood niggas. You're right,
Speaker 5: you under saw the aspect of some people. The generalization
Speaker 5: is I love bone Thug bang the fuck out of
Speaker 5: East nineteen ninety nine. But when you go put it
Speaker 5: up against somebody who's supposed to be a gangster fucking rapper,
Speaker 5: people are gonna question that. Like, I never considered bone
Speaker 5: Thugs gangster. Was they street? Yeah? They were smarter niggas,
Speaker 5: but they know But that's.
Speaker 1: That's like, But that's the thing of different people looking
Speaker 1: at different things. We you and I didn't think the
Speaker 1: Loonies were a gangst The rap album still did, but
Speaker 1: that's still's opinions. So it's not a to me. That's
Speaker 1: one part of us that, dude.
Speaker 5: Do you like does it go to the aspect of
Speaker 5: so when you bang Operation Stackola.
Speaker 1: Which is a phenomenal alc to the.
Speaker 5: Loonies, that you think they were gangster niggas or you
Speaker 5: just felt they were some street niggas.
Speaker 3: Well, this is what I feel like. This, I feel
Speaker 3: like anything with catsers talking about some street ship. I think,
Speaker 3: see that's what we disagree those. I disagree with you.
Speaker 1: Still I don't think of it that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's to me, I don't think of it.
Speaker 5: I don't think that niggas, who's everyone who talks street
Speaker 5: ship is a gangster rap.
Speaker 3: But that's why I said, And here's the songs on
Speaker 3: the album On Louise album number two, on which album
Speaker 3: Operation stack Ola you got? The intro number two is
Speaker 3: put the lid on. You talked about busting on somebody.
Speaker 1: But that's not that's not gang banging those that's it's
Speaker 1: not gang but it's not gang bag.
Speaker 5: It's street ship. It's not what they're saying they're from,
Speaker 5: or they claim they're not in the vill.
Speaker 3: They claim in the vill.
Speaker 5: What's what's the ville? The ville is the neighborhood where
Speaker 5: they're from. The ville was up in the one one
Speaker 5: of the artists neighborhoods, and the one on the West
Speaker 5: coast is up there. They do their ship, They selling
Speaker 5: dope up there, they're selling pussy, they doing some everything.
Speaker 5: Motherfucker's getting shot that's some gamester shit to me. It's
Speaker 5: just it's just the aspect of where you, like I said,
Speaker 5: Like I said, you saying the West coast. West coast
Speaker 5: artists are gonna always fit, especially if they in that field.
Speaker 5: But because like I said, we've had niggas outside of
Speaker 5: gangster shit. We've had Hieroglyphics, We've had fucking de Al,
Speaker 5: the funky Homo Sapeyen, We've had the Alcoholic and I
Speaker 5: wouldn't the Rep album No, And that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: But they still talk to street shit. I banged the
Speaker 5: Alcoholics because it's street ship. To me. The niggas ain't
Speaker 5: talking about motherfucking you know, riding hot air balloons and
Speaker 5: niggas talking about nigga we getting drunk in the neighborhood
Speaker 5: and you know bitches and that's some street shit to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Alcoholics on always represent themselves as a
Speaker 3: hip hop group.
Speaker 1: There was more like of course, I think too. This
Speaker 1: is another big thing that I think, kind of building
Speaker 1: off what E's saying, is that when we go to
Speaker 1: other cities, Chicago got a lot of gang banging music.
Speaker 1: But because the media or the fans or whatever, nationally
Speaker 1: the West Coast. However, don't look at it like, oh,
Speaker 1: these dudes are representing gd These dudes are representing whatever
Speaker 1: they represent, landin Kings, whatever, Vice Lords. They're not looked
Speaker 1: at as gangster rappers to the average person, even though
Speaker 1: if you listen to a lot of their music it's
Speaker 1: super gag bang.
Speaker 5: They would be considered gangster them. And here you have
Speaker 5: the niggas talking about we from sixty this, yeah, sixty that,
Speaker 5: we from this, We from Tucaville.
Speaker 1: We from one A saying back in the day, nobody
Speaker 1: looking back, No, no, they were banging on their records
Speaker 1: because back in the day when you got when you
Speaker 1: listening to Hey in the Barn, right, Oh, but niggas
Speaker 1: going there, them.
Speaker 5: Niggas a street I knew, Cruise Show did a lot
Speaker 5: of songs with a lot of shows with them, But
Speaker 5: nobody would go all their niggas gangster rappers.
Speaker 1: But they knew that in Chicago because you understood the slang,
Speaker 1: and you have to understand the slang in order to
Speaker 1: be able to look at them as gangster rap rappers.
Speaker 5: Pip was good street, you know it. But yeah, the
Speaker 5: Chicago image to us was common and ship like that.
Speaker 5: So but then, like I said, when you go down south,
Speaker 5: there was the Ghetto Boys, there was fucking Willie B.
Speaker 5: Scarface Bushwick, it was Big Mic, it was fucking three two.
Speaker 5: It was fucking against the nip and you know it
Speaker 5: was it was it was well, you knew.
Speaker 3: I had a conversation, was fucking slim thug you know,
Speaker 3: it against the rap to me in the North, in
Speaker 3: the North, the Boss of the North and a w
Speaker 3: f the North, nor big Boss of the North, slim Thuger,
Speaker 3: slimp Thugger has some dope as albums.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh that's that's all I was saying. You know,
Speaker 5: the opinions of and I feel that the opinions of
Speaker 5: certain certain consumers and fans as opposed to you know,
Speaker 5: because then that's gonna be the controversy. Oh how can
Speaker 5: you not have this? So and still how can you
Speaker 5: not have this record? But you got this wreck?
Speaker 3: And I think my list is gangster then the motherfucker
Speaker 3: fifteen DJ Quick Quick as the name, sixteen Snoop Dog,
Speaker 3: the last Meal, sit.
Speaker 5: All, you let me acts this, I'll do it, both
Speaker 5: of y'all. Out of the top fifty gangster rap records,
Speaker 5: what did you not consider about CBO not making the
Speaker 5: top fifty? Oh oh, you said he's fifty two.
Speaker 1: He had it all, he had like three albums made.
Speaker 5: You as your list go, he ain't gangster enough to
Speaker 5: make my top fifty.
Speaker 3: Well, see, first of all, I didn't engage must for
Speaker 3: who the Heart because if it was based off who
Speaker 3: the artist motherfucker was, that's a different needs you knowing
Speaker 3: a lot of these people personally, a lot of these
Speaker 3: motherfuckers on here. I ain't saying in bad, but they ain't.
Speaker 1: This to the artist, be a different list, be a
Speaker 1: different list.
Speaker 5: I questioned it. Uh, we all want to question your
Speaker 5: your heartness authenticity.
Speaker 3: Right now, queens.
Speaker 5: I ain't saying nothing right, They just saying this is kis.
Speaker 5: This is just like like, yeah, we we got questioned
Speaker 5: your hood is or whatever. We just I'm just asking them,
Speaker 5: you know, and this is that this is their personal opinion.
Speaker 5: It's not about your your stripes, and it ate about
Speaker 5: how many times you got down with the opposition, or
Speaker 5: if you're a crip, if you ever h you know,
Speaker 5: got into some blood ship or if you're a blood
Speaker 5: if you ever got into some crip shit. We're not
Speaker 5: We're not question than that. I'm just asking his opinion
Speaker 5: because of his top fifty. Why didn't he consider see
Speaker 5: bowl inside that fifty?
Speaker 3: Actually, you know what I'm gonna tell you. Where I
Speaker 3: originally had Sea Boot Dog, I had the mob Father
Speaker 3: in there, right, Okay, I originally had the mob Father
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 5: But I originally had that at number forty one. Okay,
Speaker 5: So what made you thank you? I had to go
Speaker 5: back and ruder you have as forty one, I got
Speaker 5: Coolia It Takes a Thief. That was a hard ass album.
Speaker 1: And I just say, to those two albums, I'd go
Speaker 1: with the mob Father, not because it's cool, yeah.
Speaker 5: But what gave me a choice and COOLi, oh, rest
Speaker 5: in peace was my peoples. You know. I would go
Speaker 5: with the lie Father all day or that one direction,
Speaker 5: going on quality of not quality of music, but not
Speaker 5: necessarily Still yeah, okay, let me.
Speaker 4: I want to hear this.
Speaker 5: I want to hear this.
Speaker 3: What on the thing is I'm gona I'm gonna acknowledge
Speaker 3: y'all both about something about Coolier takes it because it
Speaker 3: sounds like you're a sleeping on homie. No, that's not it.
Speaker 3: Never well, let me remind you all about something looking
Speaker 3: at hurt all you all out, I'll hurt all yo.
Speaker 3: Let me put my track listen up all right, talk
Speaker 3: about the county Line of Will's fair office that don't
Speaker 3: like it, don't have nothing? What what the fuck did this?
Speaker 3: She gotta do with gangs bangers? So a motherfucker to.
Speaker 5: Have a reality saying then why then why didn't we
Speaker 5: do a list that says reality, rap records or street
Speaker 5: influence records. He says, when you go gangster, niggas is
Speaker 5: gonna go no way. Toulio's music is more gangster than
Speaker 5: ce Bowl and it has nothing to do with because
Speaker 5: he talking about the county Line and welfare.
Speaker 3: With a gangster and the album went two times patting
Speaker 3: them sales.
Speaker 5: Latinum because of Gangster's Paradise.
Speaker 3: Well, no, that was on the next album.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying. I'm just saying, still.
Speaker 8: It takes a thief. Gangster's paradise on It takes a thief. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 8: but thank you. When you heard that shit, he'll be
Speaker 8: thinking either Conny lyone be checking me. Actually, hold on, man,
Speaker 8: I'm a brother, tell you well, need you, We want
Speaker 8: you to know why you went with it takes a thief.
Speaker 5: Mob five.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm gonna tell you if something gainst his
Speaker 3: paradise wasn't on, it takes a thief. It is, brother,
Speaker 3: show you something, Brother, show you something.
Speaker 5: Why can't you just answer the question and stop trying
Speaker 5: to compare your songs? This is what what made you pick?
Speaker 5: It takes a thief over the.
Speaker 3: Mob Father because I thought it was a better body
Speaker 3: of work. Not like that right there. I thought it
Speaker 3: was overall a bitter.
Speaker 5: Pun So what just production and publicity and all of that.
Speaker 3: Oh, not just that man right there. See, I looked
Speaker 3: at the broad appeal of it, and the mob Father
Speaker 3: album was the ship it is. I lost like I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna say I lost sleep over this ship. But
Speaker 3: it was hard. I went back and forth up to
Speaker 3: the last mint over this ship. It was a lot
Speaker 3: of shit that guy switched out. And I remember them songs.
Speaker 3: My father was one of them.
Speaker 1: Uh, gas chamber for me is up there. Almost almost
Speaker 1: put up the casket.
Speaker 3: Drops, come on, man, Almost put FBI by my guys
Speaker 3: from out of Flint, Dayton family, Dayton Family, Almost put FBI.
Speaker 3: I feel real strongly about that. That's a great album.
Speaker 3: Almost put that up in there, and I almost put
Speaker 3: the almis up in their top authority. That was one
Speaker 3: of the most some to blaze too. That Michigan Flint
Speaker 3: had some cold ass gangster shit jumping.
Speaker 5: Let me hear your shit from forty to fifty, From forty.
Speaker 3: To fifty, Here you go right here forty brother Ling Shawn,
Speaker 3: Season of the Sickness. I'll take that forty one Coolie
Speaker 3: or it takes a thief forty two Spice one self
Speaker 3: titled forty three Big Mic some serious number forty four
Speaker 3: do or Die? Picture this number forty five, young jeezy.
Speaker 3: Let's get a thug motivation one on one forty six
Speaker 3: but of law, living like hus forty seven scar Faced
Speaker 3: The World is yours forty eight Thug Life, Thug Life
Speaker 3: Volume one, forty nine, Doug Life. Yeah, a thug life,
Speaker 3: Big Psych or a little liquor. I'll let it on there.
Speaker 3: Don't blame mama. You can't blame my daddy, Big Psych
Speaker 3: and all of them.
Speaker 5: I know they were nine, then his favorites, then his
Speaker 5: personal favorites forty I have no disrespect to Thug Life.
Speaker 5: I never listened to that record.
Speaker 3: I like that record.
Speaker 5: I like I never listened to that rap.
Speaker 3: Forty nine and y'all might disagree with this, but I
Speaker 3: thought mag Drad was gangster. Mag Dre's stupid, doodoo dumb
Speaker 3: and number fifty mc breed a new breed.
Speaker 1: Eight steal. Half of those I wouldn't say are even
Speaker 1: gangster rapper.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, y'all basing everything off of
Speaker 3: a motherfucker's a cripple blood.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're banged yet they have to be it. So
Speaker 3: they have. In order for you to be against rapper,
Speaker 3: you have to be a member of an organization. That's
Speaker 3: what it is in the blood and that's what I
Speaker 3: swept that cost, that's what said that against him. Thereforece coalition.
Speaker 5: He was with the funks.
Speaker 3: From the Crest.
Speaker 5: Listen, and I can get it, like you know, everybody
Speaker 5: does against the rapper. Everybody doesn't have cripping and blood
Speaker 5: and I get that. So the aspect of when you
Speaker 5: say gangster rat.
Speaker 3: And almost puts juvenile up in that more for the
Speaker 3: form of the degrees juvenile in against the rapper, Nah
Speaker 3: jay Z reasonable DoLS. That's not a lot of records
Speaker 3: I wanted to put in here. I didn't put in
Speaker 3: because yes, right there, I didn't put jay Z's reasonable.
Speaker 3: That's not a gangster rapper, a gangster rapper.
Speaker 5: That's just to me that street ship. It is street
Speaker 5: street ship is different from gangster ship. Still, you're different,
Speaker 5: and I get it. You come from the side where
Speaker 5: you feel like nigga gangster is a gangster. It don't
Speaker 5: matter if he claiming the hood. But you can't tell
Speaker 5: that to niggas who claimed hoods and who are gangst
Speaker 5: the rapper.
Speaker 3: I understand that. That's why that's what I'm saying. On
Speaker 3: the West Saw, everybody has their opinion like that. That's
Speaker 3: their opinion, that's their stances.
Speaker 5: No, even if you go to the East Coast, you
Speaker 5: go to the East coast, they called us gangster rappers.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, this is Benny Sigel against
Speaker 3: the rapper. Not to me, his his song should have
Speaker 3: been on this. I didn't put him in there because
Speaker 3: I knew you all would be coming with this ship
Speaker 3: right there, right there, Benny Siegel.
Speaker 5: Had water and he was hood Benny hood Is. I
Speaker 5: thought he was hood. I thought he was hood. What
Speaker 5: I put him in the category because of seeing how
Speaker 5: you step in then he would probably make my list
Speaker 5: for gangster rap records.
Speaker 3: And I thought I could swear all these people gonna
Speaker 3: hear his gainst the rappers to me and my my
Speaker 3: humble opinion.
Speaker 5: And I didn't have a whole I just crossed streets.
Speaker 5: It with with with with gangster rappers two different things.
Speaker 5: I don't know, and a lot of people do that.
Speaker 5: That's why when you when you can say I thought
Speaker 5: it takes a thief was more gangster than the mob Father,
Speaker 5: You're never gonna get that fucking.
Speaker 3: See see not in base minol, because if it was
Speaker 3: based on the criteria who the hardest motherfucker is, the
Speaker 3: two motherfuckers at the top, the list would have been
Speaker 3: se Boll and Trade or that.
Speaker 5: But but but the nigga wouldn't have a nigga, wouldn't
Speaker 5: have second geinst you a nick and tradey hard as
Speaker 5: a mother fuck I can ranks.
Speaker 3: The nigga can rhyme like the mother let me rhyme.
Speaker 5: And you know why it's a difference.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1: You know why.
Speaker 3: You know why I got the East Sidens and their
Speaker 3: self titled album in there because they both rhyming like
Speaker 3: a motherfucker se Bull was rhyming like a motherfucker on
Speaker 3: the gas chain brand motherfucker. Everything Sebell put out was
Speaker 3: a one. I'm not saying he wouldn't they one. It
Speaker 3: was just in my personal opinion.
Speaker 5: Is, come on, take a ride on the fantastic voyage.
Speaker 5: It's like compare that to a se Bowl song where
Speaker 5: Sea Bows standing on the block with.
Speaker 1: In fact, still, if I remember correctly that.
Speaker 5: A nigga's riding around on bike wheels and shit and
Speaker 5: making shit comical, you're never gonna get a nigga that
Speaker 5: you feel me?
Speaker 1: Hey, what is Coolio? Oh no, what does Coolio say
Speaker 1: on Gangster's Paradise. Ain't no blooding, ain't no cripping, Ain't
Speaker 1: no punk ass brother set tripping. He's actually saying I
Speaker 1: know what he's saying. But it's also like, come.
Speaker 3: On, it was a different see y'all taking it from
Speaker 3: the stands man, y'all, But he says it on the
Speaker 3: song still, but the brother is saying that ain't no
Speaker 3: set tripping going on that day. Brothers have a good time.
Speaker 3: Niggas ain't just hard. Twenty four motherfucker siven.
Speaker 5: If if you want, if you if you want to,
Speaker 5: if you want to give that on the aspect because
Speaker 5: Coolio I was from the West Coast. He came up
Speaker 5: with dub you.
Speaker 1: Know, and any damn thing changes on my list.
Speaker 5: But to me, Coolio wasn't crazy once he touched that
Speaker 5: pop side. I'm not tripping off of that. I'm not
Speaker 5: finna rap rapped on colorblinde.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you all this.
Speaker 5: I'm finna rap about having fun par address code and
Speaker 5: you get me, nigga, we finna be one, two, three four,
Speaker 5: get yall. You know nobody's gonna.
Speaker 3: Come, he ask y'all. List down. He balling MJG on there,
Speaker 3: coming up hard. They're not gangster. The album one Gangster.
Speaker 1: That's a gangster album. Bank robbery, mister Big.
Speaker 5: That's some street ship. It's some street ship. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: it's street That's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 3: I got dubb C. The Shadi is on there, y'all.
Speaker 3: Don't think Mob Deep murder music, y'all. I think that's
Speaker 3: gangster shit.
Speaker 1: I put Mob Deep on my list. I think they're
Speaker 1: gangster for real, for sure.
Speaker 3: I mean, and the thing he is, I don't know
Speaker 3: what products you getting. Old boy is the hardest motherfuckers
Speaker 3: in the world. I don't think about it was just
Speaker 3: a hard ass out and that shit used to be.
Speaker 5: You know, they got some people Like I said, it's
Speaker 5: it's a difference of opinion of what motherfucker's gonna say
Speaker 5: gangster shit is, because if you never came from the
Speaker 5: gang bang life, you gonna consider anything a nigga talking
Speaker 5: about pulling a pistol. I saw dope. You know whatever
Speaker 5: whatever to you that niggas is gangster.
Speaker 3: I want to ask because I don't can't, I don't
Speaker 3: clean crippled blood, and I think I've done everything damn
Speaker 3: near every every other motherfucker from other neighborhood don't did
Speaker 3: except for gang bang. I wanna I wanna see something
Speaker 3: real quick, cold on, real quick. I'm gonna ask the
Speaker 3: motherfucker that nigga is really from the motherfucker and I
Speaker 3: know you're really from the soil, but I just want
Speaker 3: to see all side nigga's opinion, right, it's really from
Speaker 3: the hood, a fady. I got you on a Gangster
Speaker 3: Chronicles live right now. I want to ask you question, right,
Speaker 3: I gotta ask you a question. So I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: doing a whole bunch of customers.
Speaker 5: You know, all this nigga do, man, he all we
Speaker 5: gotta put is he already gotta do his live call
Speaker 5: leans or some ship when we get to when we
Speaker 5: get to digging and steals ass. That's what he got
Speaker 5: the call for backup right quick.
Speaker 3: Hey, when we was kids, dog was all the eighty
Speaker 3: five six you was doing. I was doing it with you, right,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let yeah he did you steal up? He
Speaker 3: don't be thinking man, he he just just know I'm
Speaker 3: talking about as far as the ship that we begt
Speaker 3: you know, like a nigga was selling dope, A nigga.
Speaker 5: Was still wants it. Still wants to know the difference.
Speaker 3: Let me know.
Speaker 5: I'll be check it out. Still wants to know the
Speaker 5: difference of gang of gang ship and street ship. Is
Speaker 5: there a difference?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 5: You go.
Speaker 3: We talked about some music.
Speaker 5: It don't matter if it's music or if it's it's night.
Speaker 5: Difference between gangster shit and street ship?
Speaker 4: Is thatactly?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And then it's still I don't I got if I
Speaker 7: wouldn't went to the Bennett Pintry, you end up being
Speaker 7: from the set that was so different. But yeah, you
Speaker 7: know that nigga bus some niggas up nigga pistol on
Speaker 7: your set, acting funny with your money and set. Well,
Speaker 7: get that about this in your free with Nigga was
Speaker 7: going about.
Speaker 5: It, but you just you just heard him. If I
Speaker 5: wouldn't have went it a being you would have went,
Speaker 5: you would have got put on the hood. There's a difference.
Speaker 3: You aren't you.
Speaker 5: You know you ain't from the hood. You ain't from
Speaker 5: the hood. Yeah, you were selling. I know plenty of
Speaker 5: niggas right now who don't claim shit and still do
Speaker 5: street ship. I still serve, I still get my whatever,
Speaker 5: but I'm not going around claiming a particular spot and
Speaker 5: we it's a difference between gangster ship and street ship.
Speaker 4: That can I do.
Speaker 3: That would have coupled you if you're the claim to
Speaker 3: say what I mean by that.
Speaker 4: You was able to cause tyresending line fuck with niggas
Speaker 4: from the Red from different sets.
Speaker 7: You was able to mingle on going around and not
Speaker 7: have a uh you know protocol that's ad to do
Speaker 7: some He'll back there if you saw a nigga from
Speaker 7: another set, and then with ny it was a little dude.
Speaker 7: If you were the active live day when you got
Speaker 7: cracking on that nigg off the dribble and we were
Speaker 7: doing that. You know, long sight, really negga get pomper
Speaker 7: me with the gas because she went to the brother
Speaker 7: the spot, they gonna get pomping.
Speaker 3: But are you not being.
Speaker 5: You wasn't affiliated, so you can still go out there
Speaker 5: and cop dope and sell and do all that. But
Speaker 5: when you see a nigga from the other side, you're
Speaker 5: gonna be like, hey, what's up on me? You're gonna
Speaker 5: be like, what's up? Man? It ain't gonna be like nigga,
Speaker 5: this is the who it on sight. It's a difference
Speaker 5: between gangster ship and street ship. I know plenty of
Speaker 5: niggas who from the streets, who have who you so?
Speaker 5: So you crossed that over to these albums too? Are
Speaker 5: Is there difference between street records and gangster records? Do
Speaker 5: you could sit.
Speaker 3: Probably let me ask you this. Would you consider Rick
Speaker 3: Ross against the rapper? What you what? Thank you?
Speaker 5: What you consider se Bowl against the rapper?
Speaker 3: Is he a gang member?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a difference between games street. It's a difference
Speaker 5: just saying.
Speaker 3: You just put the cripple all up in the music.
Speaker 5: It's not about blood, it's it's it's about the name
Speaker 5: gangster compared to just street.
Speaker 4: S w we call holimited an. When the Funks came out,
Speaker 4: they wouldn't put on niggas. Know what it goes, Well,
Speaker 4: you know you knew what them niggas a fuck? Well
Speaker 4: you know what's there, Ragusa than me.
Speaker 5: They didn't give a fuck. They didn't give a fuck Nigga.
Speaker 5: On my first album cover, I had a Nike jacket on.
Speaker 5: You give me. I didn't have all blue bandannas and whatever.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 5: It's just because niggas knew I was from Tragnu. That's
Speaker 5: a gangster rapper. When I went out of town in
Speaker 5: New York and I went to promo, shit and woomti
Speaker 5: wom and niggas see us jump out with sweatshirts on
Speaker 5: and blue khakis and blue Nikes with strings in them,
Speaker 5: and shit, they go them niggas gangsters. Now, I could
Speaker 5: have jumped out in some guest jeans and a regular
Speaker 5: button down and been like, yeah, nigga, I'm from Compton.
Speaker 5: They'd have been like, oh, yeah, that's the he from
Speaker 5: the streets. But nah, not when I'm jumping out nigga
Speaker 5: with the jury curl nigga and the tea hat on
Speaker 5: and motherfucking the khakis and the blue converts with pot
Speaker 5: of blue strings in them. When I walk up in
Speaker 5: that corporate office, them nigga's going, that's a Ates the rapper.
Speaker 5: They're not going that nigga street.
Speaker 1: It's a difference.
Speaker 4: I just could have done. Thure ain't a nigga.
Speaker 7: Man, I've been fucking dad because when producing all that,
Speaker 7: I don't understand.
Speaker 5: Perfect perfect, perfect example, perfect example. Coolio from Campton, which
Speaker 5: you considered Cooliol Gates the rapper.
Speaker 4: I mess before I knew he was a rapper.
Speaker 3: I knew he was a cod and then I know
Speaker 3: he messed with in the mass.
Speaker 4: Up head coy to rescue.
Speaker 5: So when you when you put on a Coolio record
Speaker 5: compared to a Ceball record, who would you say was
Speaker 5: more gangster?
Speaker 3: Didn't know walk? I feel you man Yoga ostracized me.
Speaker 3: So I ain't got no sea Ball on this business.
Speaker 3: Time to start fucking with him.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying though, just like I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: you know, I got the same thing for Soaring though,
Speaker 5: because so I got his list.
Speaker 3: What I will admit Sea Ball probably should have been
Speaker 3: on this list somewhere, but now do we take one
Speaker 3: of Scarface's albums off?
Speaker 5: Now, it's just it's to let me tell you what
Speaker 5: happens with that type of ship, what the face had.
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 1: We got scar Face in the Gettle network.
Speaker 5: What happens with Sea Ball is because Sea Bowl got you.
Speaker 3: Got eight on that.
Speaker 5: Let's just face it.
Speaker 1: He was an underground rapper.
Speaker 3: Ever made it. Volumet teen I was volume teer against
Speaker 3: the repord. I know he had the one song pistol Dude.
Speaker 7: That was a jack of album nigga I was. He
Speaker 7: was out the bank it off, putting my lap all
Speaker 7: the time. I've been checking forum and got foods gonna
Speaker 7: beet jacking from my PRIs.
Speaker 3: That is probably the most gas pistol rip. But was
Speaker 3: this album like, where's the body of work at?
Speaker 5: With no?
Speaker 1: It's called hip hopraa, it's not a gangster rap out.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, some dudes didn't want the gangster rap title right.
Speaker 5: A lot of niggas didn't want it. A lot of
Speaker 5: niggas didn't want it because, like I said, it was
Speaker 5: a different time back then. Now you can say you're
Speaker 5: a gangster, talk about you from trag New we shot
Speaker 5: up a gang of niggas and then you get twenty
Speaker 5: million downloads and shit you give me.
Speaker 1: But back in argument, it was getting banned not playing videos.
Speaker 3: Yes, people did not like us. You know why should
Speaker 3: have liked this though? Me knowing a lot of rappers
Speaker 3: they call theyselve gangsters and some niggas from me even hood,
Speaker 3: I feel like I was more active than they was
Speaker 3: when we.
Speaker 5: Was younger, you know, And I get what you're saying
Speaker 5: to that still, but now you like at the fun
Speaker 5: we get this off from the door.
Speaker 6: We had.
Speaker 7: I think the way artists like yourself and uh, the
Speaker 7: artists who did not come out and say what he
Speaker 7: was from on their record, but niggas we knew where
Speaker 7: he was from, I think you made no money doing
Speaker 7: it that way. Then the way niggas put they set
Speaker 7: out there. Now, I think you eliminate yourself of making
Speaker 7: some kind of money was because you're signifying where you're fun.
Speaker 7: Back then, I don't think that the major dung Leney
Speaker 7: seeing out where he was fun by you not signifying
Speaker 7: word about where were you're from over and over in
Speaker 7: the song.
Speaker 3: I think you made more money.
Speaker 1: Like that, Yeah, but that the person made more money
Speaker 1: like that, that's why everybody wore neutral colors for years
Speaker 1: on the album covers and the videos, all that.
Speaker 3: You were married and you know I had never met
Speaker 3: you personally, you shouldn't give We thought we knew where
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 5: Fun.
Speaker 4: You know what wasn't no buzz they one you did?
Speaker 4: So in any other artists that.
Speaker 5: We came out with a blue cassette tape. Man, My
Speaker 5: first album on cassette.
Speaker 1: T was a blue the blue tape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I was bang man, I'm know you going.
Speaker 5: I didn't give a fuck. Sure, but I didn't give
Speaker 5: a fuck. Nigga. I was gang banged, Central nigga. Nigga
Speaker 5: Blue Tape, Nigga count in high school nigga. I had
Speaker 5: nigga about twenty track new niggas in the video, like.
Speaker 3: Said, shit, we was always my aspect of shit, right because.
Speaker 5: That was shit I was doing already before.
Speaker 1: That's who you were, Yeah, that's who you were.
Speaker 5: That's why it's the difference of being street, because I
Speaker 5: could have been a nigga who was living in Campting,
Speaker 5: never gang banging. I still had to skill to write
Speaker 5: and do music, so I could have just been a
Speaker 5: nigga just you know. But for the fact that I
Speaker 5: came up game banging, I started gang banging and from
Speaker 5: singing the fucking oppression from being a gang banger and
Speaker 5: the like a nigga. I got the rights about this
Speaker 5: shit like because as I saw no way, you know.
Speaker 5: But like I said, it was plenty of niggas who
Speaker 5: records that I banged. I didn't consider gangster, just considered
Speaker 5: the street shit. Fucking like you said, a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 5: I banged the fuck out that shit. It gave me
Speaker 5: street vibes, you understand me, nigging the projects, hustling, tried
Speaker 5: to get his money. Can't knock the hustle. You know,
Speaker 5: politics as usual. You know, it's nigga from the streets.
Speaker 5: He ain't from no hood, but he from the streets.
Speaker 3: Well, you know. And that was the aspect I took
Speaker 3: on it. I said, Okay, these as hard albums to
Speaker 3: me because I never liked soft music. You feel what
Speaker 3: I'm saying and cooliod shit wasn't the most aggressive in
Speaker 3: the world. But I feel like he has some jam
Speaker 3: and ass music on there.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of great music on this I was.
Speaker 3: Just basing it. I based my list basically off of
Speaker 3: If there's some street shit. To me, that was some
Speaker 3: gas and shit because even though I wasn't never no
Speaker 3: cripp of blood and I don't ever talk about that shit.
Speaker 3: I did the same shit everybody else.
Speaker 5: I mean, but that's just like, that's like any out
Speaker 5: of town you know, affiliate who knows about neighborhoods and whatever.
Speaker 5: You came from Cleveland, you got down with my nigga,
Speaker 5: and to you, there's no symbolization. You ain't got to
Speaker 5: have a bandanner. I don't got one, and I'm still
Speaker 5: out here doing the same what it was. It's a
Speaker 5: lot of niggas who come from out of town who
Speaker 5: set up shop and whatever, grow up whatever. You ain't
Speaker 5: gotta get put on right you. You ain't got to
Speaker 5: claim the hood, you get me, But that aspect still is.
Speaker 5: You consider nigga that nigga street where you can see
Speaker 5: a nigga pull up, jump out of his motherfucking Mercedes
Speaker 5: and he got a strap on him and he liked
Speaker 5: nick nigga. That's that's gangster shit, right, That's some gangster
Speaker 5: shit instead of that, because you like, I don't symbolize
Speaker 5: with the color aspect. So whether it's gangster or street.
Speaker 5: But The whole aspect is when you come from the
Speaker 5: West coast, up and down a little bit over in Arizona,
Speaker 5: and then you go up to Nevada, them niggas is
Speaker 5: game banging. So when you go gangster rap, they're looking
Speaker 5: for the niggas. Who oh, that nigga was from sixties,
Speaker 5: that nigga was from tragnw Oh. Sebo was banging up
Speaker 5: in Sacramento, Garden block shit, brother lynch Hunt even though
Speaker 5: he don't fucking nigga, I chop your fucking cause you're
Speaker 5: digging your guts. He was cleaning garden, blotting black. That's
Speaker 5: a gangster rapper. Even though niggas go, nigga, what is
Speaker 5: this auror movie shit? This nigga rapper, He's still considered
Speaker 5: a gangster rapper because he told nigga, I'm from garden
Speaker 5: Block rep. So it's a difference from going or E
Speaker 5: forty a gangster rapper. No E forty a hustler street nigga.
Speaker 5: You're getting me. We come from for Lao. We did
Speaker 5: our thing with it. But E forty ain't telling you, nigga,
Speaker 5: I'm finna go bust on. A nigga who got red
Speaker 5: or blue on.
Speaker 3: You know what it was with me, man, And the
Speaker 3: reason the reason why I never got into the game
Speaker 3: banging shitcuse I had too many other homeboys. And that's
Speaker 3: one thing I saw because that chick. You know, you
Speaker 3: got to remember I came out to this motherfucker eighty
Speaker 3: eight eighty nine. It was serious back then, oh definitely,
Speaker 3: And I saw motherfuckers. I said, Okay, so if I'm
Speaker 3: over here, I can't be cool with the homies.
Speaker 5: No, oh you can't.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I was like, damn, man, I'm a lot of
Speaker 5: child from a lot of childhood friends separated because you know,
Speaker 5: we played from you football together and we all went
Speaker 5: to the same school until it came time to go
Speaker 5: to high school. And so now nigga, you going over there,
Speaker 5: I'm over here. We no longer can be friends, right
Speaker 5: you from over there?
Speaker 3: And it was like that, man, because I had a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of cats up from twenties. I was cool
Speaker 3: with the the motherfucker and they was trying to do
Speaker 3: the same shit. That's what fun, you know, was us
Speaker 3: them niggas over my house. All they was like, man,
Speaker 3: you mother would be from me.
Speaker 5: I mean, I expect this to recruit. I don't give
Speaker 5: fuck the Army, the Navy, any sports team. Nigga. We
Speaker 5: gang bangers niggas. So how do we sustain and how
Speaker 5: do we last forever? We can't recruit, right if we
Speaker 5: gotta recruit. So you out of town ass, nigga, and
Speaker 5: you done came out of here and now you're on
Speaker 5: the block with a serving and you know, if we
Speaker 5: fight a nigga, you fight. You know, whether you came
Speaker 5: at the football shit and new niggas from all sides,
Speaker 5: like nigga, we gonna fight. Oh, come over here with
Speaker 5: us and then them nigga's gonna be and then one
Speaker 5: day when you go kick it with the twenties nigga, Nigga,
Speaker 5: you need to be from over here, right, and then
Speaker 5: you gonna go across. You go across the tracks and
Speaker 5: got a couple of blood friends and they gonna do
Speaker 5: the same thing.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 5: You need to be from with us. It's the nature
Speaker 5: of the beasts. Nigga is shit. We gonna recruit your
Speaker 5: country ass, and we gonna call you country loke, and
Speaker 5: you gonna be from the hood, nigga country and we'll
Speaker 5: put your ass it's some workmen, dickies and overalls, and
Speaker 5: you're gonna be on the block with us and what
Speaker 5: niggas come through. Nigga. That's big country right there. From
Speaker 5: the hood, nigga.
Speaker 3: Nigga, man, we was out there doing some every motherfucking things.
Speaker 5: You would have got put on. Nigga. We don't give
Speaker 5: a fuck. You was in the hood with us. A
Speaker 5: gonna be with this nigga living over here playing football. Please, nigga,
Speaker 5: you hanging out with us? What they spoke it niggas
Speaker 5: gonna be three niggas just go jump oh your ass.
Speaker 5: Next thing, you know, you're gonna be like, what the
Speaker 5: fuck are you official? Now? Still big country nigga track new.
Speaker 3: I wasn't going from shit. You you good.
Speaker 5: You're glad niggas respected you to let you like I
Speaker 5: want to get a fit because us, nigga, we would
Speaker 5: have stuck your big country ass. It'd been like, Nigga,
Speaker 5: you would have been like, Oh, ain't with you up?
Speaker 5: What day you going to be in the cave? Over
Speaker 5: to the backyard. You're to see the about five six
Speaker 5: niggas in the backyard. You'd been like, what's up? Eight
Speaker 5: niggas today? Is today.
Speaker 3: Man, You know how they got the homiesaid boys today?
Speaker 3: They got the homie from Florida. So cold with that
Speaker 3: ship one time man, because he liked to go drinking
Speaker 3: with the motherfucker. See, I knew enough, we gonna go
Speaker 3: do this and do that, but certain situations. I'm not
Speaker 3: going over nobody's cribs at the barracters. You in the backyard.
Speaker 3: He came home, man, I didn't go. He came home
Speaker 3: his eyes and swollen up. I said, what the fuck
Speaker 3: happened to you? Motherfucker? I want to grab my look.
Speaker 5: He said, no, nigga's sofcial now.
Speaker 3: Nig motherfucker's bankers.
Speaker 5: And I'm from the now nigga. Now what? And he
Speaker 5: was out there putting all kind of I think that
Speaker 5: motherfucker might have could have been out here like nigga.
Speaker 5: You could have been big, big country nigga, Nigger country nigga.
Speaker 5: For you to play football over the country, large beach,
Speaker 5: insane nigga. Ad you and you you was raiders out
Speaker 5: wasn't you don't play? I ain't you had no raiders?
Speaker 5: You had nothing raiders Nigga over there will fomb me.
Speaker 5: I had a couple of baseball catch. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 5: don't know, mother for the exactly there he's an insane.
Speaker 5: Don't trip you big country insane.
Speaker 1: I still got my Raiders starter jack shit, what man?
Speaker 5: The one thing about it ever, did you ever wear
Speaker 5: some Steelers?
Speaker 3: I ain't.
Speaker 5: I'll say so there it is.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't like see that.
Speaker 5: Whyant he's official insane? He wore he wore Raiders over
Speaker 5: there hanging with.
Speaker 3: Old bunch, and I got an old bunch of you know,
Speaker 3: and I ran with a whole bunch of blood class
Speaker 3: for a long time over there. But crawl from the
Speaker 3: members of my nigga crawls for by my brother.
Speaker 5: But like I said, nigga's usually it got into the game,
Speaker 5: bang you shit because because usually when you get to
Speaker 5: when you get to mingling around, and especially when you
Speaker 5: wouldn't play in sport, because you know, out here the
Speaker 5: hood niggas be in the sports like a motherfucker. The
Speaker 5: youth sports and football and all that shit. Sot a
Speaker 5: lot of niggas, you know, the sons, and they shit.
Speaker 5: I ain't got into pretty plenty of confrontations at youth
Speaker 5: games over the all mad filiations shit.
Speaker 3: Thinging is all lower youth football out and this motherfucker
Speaker 3: we was playing, motherfucking not Mona Park. What's the other
Speaker 3: neighborhood over the motherfuckers that were the Green Nig, the
Speaker 3: Green and Gold. What's the name of what's the name
Speaker 3: of the motherfucker's dog. I thought a motherfucker was gonna
Speaker 3: get the blowing out there that day.
Speaker 4: Dog.
Speaker 3: It was so thick dog the only big Bruce Say
Speaker 3: had his pistol. Women. It wasn't more. It's serious. It
Speaker 3: wasn't Mona Park, I forget. And this one motherfucker dog
Speaker 3: was walking across the motherfucker field looking at me like this,
Speaker 3: and I swear this motherfucker had a k up under
Speaker 3: his jacket. I looked. I said, man, we was about
Speaker 3: to get cracking. I have to grab homeyer, I said, no.
Speaker 3: They said, it's serious. Out of here.
Speaker 5: Shit it up in there, man like I soul like,
Speaker 5: just like I said, the gang banging and street ship.
Speaker 5: So when you consider gangster rap and street affiliated rap,
Speaker 5: I guess we try to change that narrative, uh to
Speaker 5: go to You know, we were just spitting reality because
Speaker 5: we caught a lot of uh. We caught a lot
Speaker 5: of flack and hard ship for not even Claytman shit Satan.
Speaker 5: We was gangster rappers. That was the title that you know,
Speaker 5: the media and people gave us. I never, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm a gangster rapper. Just like Fownby said, they came
Speaker 5: out as counts most wanted. Now for the fact that
Speaker 5: we were all just local little niggas. Yeah, we all
Speaker 5: the niggas was claiming trag knew over there or gang
Speaker 5: banging or whatever. So it was no question, never no
Speaker 5: question about uh, you know where was eight from where
Speaker 5: was dubbed from where? It was snoop or dazz or
Speaker 5: corrupt or quick or you give me because niggas knew
Speaker 5: you lived here all your life. Niggas knew you shit
Speaker 5: a lot of niggas. You start off your game bang.
Speaker 3: You speaking of Dazz, that was kind of how that
Speaker 3: you sow on He said, yeah, fuck dazz fu. I
Speaker 3: want to ask you that why you put dog Poune
Speaker 3: on your list?
Speaker 1: Oh, like I said, I thought the Chronic and Doggy
Speaker 1: Star are better.
Speaker 5: Than than dog Food. Yeah, well they was just guessed
Speaker 5: on there though.
Speaker 4: I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought that to me, it is a big album,
Speaker 1: but to me, the other albums were better and they're
Speaker 1: on them a lot, and they dazz In Corrupt in
Speaker 1: particular made those.
Speaker 3: Albums, And yeo that.
Speaker 5: Out of your top fifty, their dog Food album wasn't
Speaker 5: sufficient enough to you as a top fifty gangster rap
Speaker 5: record because of their appearances, No, No, no Chronic. So
Speaker 5: you're saying those to you were better than your presentation
Speaker 5: of just y'all by y'allselves.
Speaker 1: I felt that the Chronic is better than and Doggy
Speaker 1: Style are better than dog Food, and so to me,
Speaker 1: to me when I heard them, that was to me
Speaker 1: them at their prime as far as those three albums.
Speaker 1: And then when I also thought that dog Food, I
Speaker 1: thought the other albums on my list I think are
Speaker 1: better albums. It doesn't mean I think dog Food's a
Speaker 1: bad album, because it's a great album. I just thought
Speaker 1: that when I hear them, I don't feel like they're
Speaker 1: not included, because they are included. They're on two of
Speaker 1: the highest rited ranked albums on my list. So I
Speaker 1: never would have thought like dads In Corrupt or not
Speaker 1: on here, because they are. They're on there multiple times,
Speaker 1: and they appear and help make those albums classics. They're
Speaker 1: part of the reason why I love those albums, so
Speaker 1: I didn't look at it like they're not represented, because
Speaker 1: they are represented. So I also happen to think that
Speaker 1: the other albums I named I Feel are better than
Speaker 1: dog Food.
Speaker 3: I thought dog Food was the ship man it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have dog Food in my top fifty if
Speaker 5: I had a list, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think dog Food. Uh, I just think Man because me
Speaker 3: and Brown. Actually, you know, I can't remember. Behind the
Speaker 3: scenes we were talking about that and he mintioned one,
Speaker 3: what was the other album you mentioned, Brian.
Speaker 5: I could just think of that shit, nigga do like?
Speaker 5: And I said the dog Brown was just good to you,
Speaker 5: But you can't see me. I see through you clear
Speaker 5: lea think about what would you gonna make me? I
Speaker 5: ain't not on the way home right then.
Speaker 1: I just remember that man, that beat us, That beat
Speaker 1: us incredible.
Speaker 3: That motherfucker shit. Have you ever heard of water? And
Speaker 3: that's that ship was the ship.
Speaker 5: I was getting paid. Fucking psycho lighting nigga, that.
Speaker 3: Ryan slipping the slide, big pimping, let's play house all
Speaker 3: that ship man, Yeah, some bomb ass pussy all that man.
Speaker 3: That ship was hard. So looke Dash didn't I didn't
Speaker 3: sleep on your own boy, I had, I liked. I like,
Speaker 3: I keep what you're saying because there was some songs
Speaker 3: that I could probably but I like the fucking living
Speaker 3: like gangsters out from the Doll. That motherfucker dog Pound
Speaker 3: had some ship dog dog Pound. I think man dazzn't corrupt.
Speaker 5: Man, I said. If if I had a my top fifty,
Speaker 5: I would definitely have Sea Bowl in there. I would
Speaker 5: definitely have dog Pound in there. It's it's hard, though, yeah,
Speaker 5: because you want to like, you don't want disrespect no one,
Speaker 5: but you want to stay on that you know, that
Speaker 5: gangster you know, because like I said, that's the title
Speaker 5: they gave us. So we don't want to take nothing
Speaker 5: away from nobody who we feel has a street mentality album,
Speaker 5: you know, not more or less targeting the gangster shit.
Speaker 3: But no.
Speaker 1: Plus, I mean, I've spent a lot of time with
Speaker 1: let me listen.
Speaker 5: First of all, niggas need to you know, really be
Speaker 5: able to value criticism. Oh yeah, for sure, our people's
Speaker 5: opinions of what music meant to them growing up through
Speaker 5: their life. You get me more fucking You know, Souring
Speaker 5: came from you know, Maryland. You know, he he you know,
Speaker 5: he really put his you know his thought and what
Speaker 5: he felt like to him. You get me. This shit
Speaker 5: don't necessarily mean, but I think Brian him or any
Speaker 5: other motherfucking nigga who doesn't put a list up on
Speaker 5: these Rolling Stone pages. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 5: I sat and seen some ship like that and was like, oh,
Speaker 5: these motherfuckers are dumb.
Speaker 3: The fucker that that would definitely say to me, and
Speaker 3: sore as listen is way more efficient than anyone memory.
Speaker 5: Well, I think because y'all basically we try to touch
Speaker 5: on not so much of the commercialism of hip hop,
Speaker 5: you get me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at it purely for the art.
Speaker 5: When you get with these motherfuckers like the Rolling Stones
Speaker 5: and the motherfucking and you know, the big play to
Speaker 5: play advertisements and shit, it's kind of hilarious because some
Speaker 5: of these motherfuckers don't even be past thirty years old,
Speaker 5: so for them to be able to judge the history
Speaker 5: of hip hop, Hey fuck it, it's your personal favorite.
Speaker 5: It's not it's not value as far as law. You
Speaker 5: get me. It ain't like, oh fuck it, they put
Speaker 5: up this list and it's just solidified like the fucking
Speaker 5: Ten Commandments. You get me, And what we say, here
Speaker 5: is presented the top fifty and niggas you can't. You
Speaker 5: can't break the combatant if they say this is this
Speaker 5: fuck it.
Speaker 3: He just hit the computer in the beg and turned
Speaker 3: the damn thing.
Speaker 5: Then about you know, yeah what luck? Wait, yeah, well
Speaker 5: we ain't doing the uh the ocean, Pacifics and shit.
Speaker 5: You know, I where where them niggas at? Man, they
Speaker 5: got oceans and clefts and ship behind them. It would
Speaker 5: be nice like a nigga, what a good this nigga?
Speaker 5: What streets? Ship them niggas, all the niggas.
Speaker 3: And that's what I want to say to to me,
Speaker 3: there could be no wrong or no right list because
Speaker 3: music is such a personal experience, man. I mean yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean like I said, because you know, like some
Speaker 3: of the albums in there, man, like touch my b like,
Speaker 3: because I could think about whenever I listen to any
Speaker 3: one of them albums on there, I could think about
Speaker 3: specific moments in my life right to where I might
Speaker 3: have been doing something, you know what I mean, whether
Speaker 3: that's me riding with one of my kids or whatever,
Speaker 3: or just hanging out one of the homies who may
Speaker 3: not eat be here no more like uh, And I
Speaker 3: will say the thug life out of meals and personal shit.
Speaker 3: For me, Me and Big Psych was really good friends.
Speaker 3: Cycle was like my brother definically we was like that
Speaker 3: was like my It was a time a to where
Speaker 3: I swear if I wouldn't hit in Psych Psych was
Speaker 3: hit me Big still with a dowe baby.
Speaker 5: I mean that's just how it is about me and
Speaker 5: Scarface and me and Spice, or me and DJ Premier,
Speaker 5: our personal relationships with my niggas. So I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: biased when they come to Spice, Scarface and Gang starre
Speaker 5: DJ Premier.
Speaker 3: You get me. You can't.
Speaker 5: You can't fight me on that. You get me. So
Speaker 5: of course you know you got personal relationships. You know,
Speaker 5: used to be around niggas all the time, so you
Speaker 5: you valued they motherfucking music being in the studio recordings
Speaker 5: or so why wouldn't you recognize thug life? You feel me?
Speaker 3: But you know what I got, And I got two
Speaker 3: of Spice's albums in there. I mean I got the
Speaker 3: first one and I got one Eddy Siven Proof. I
Speaker 3: always go almost slipping the self titled one that was
Speaker 3: hard as that album.
Speaker 5: Uh, the one eighty seven record was the ship Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, spicyes ol motherfucker.
Speaker 5: First one one, I mean the second one was the
Speaker 5: Ship too that we did the murder show on he had.
Speaker 5: He had the motherfucking the song with motherfucking Boss on
Speaker 5: there and Banks with when.
Speaker 1: That's a great album and I just love especially because.
Speaker 5: With the clip and the trigger screaming like the yelling,
Speaker 5: come on Nigga, and.
Speaker 1: He had the stutter flow on there that was so crazy.
Speaker 5: One eight one at seven and this is that murder,
Speaker 5: that murder he wrote one man, come on man. SPIKEE
Speaker 5: had some ship on the album. The first album was
Speaker 5: the Killer, the one eighty seven Proof, the Young Nigga,
Speaker 5: the in my Neighborhood is It Man Spicy album. His
Speaker 5: first album was the Spice.
Speaker 3: Is Gonna hit you with two or three different flows.
Speaker 3: He hits you with a little study step. I got
Speaker 3: to get the guy to get the going. Now that
Speaker 3: ship with the.
Speaker 4: Actor has heard that.
Speaker 5: I said, I'm the crack house, the crack house. They
Speaker 5: can running out the crack house Nigga. That nigga has
Speaker 5: some ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, Spicy, it's classic.
Speaker 3: Spice Pie has some classics. Dog And that's another thing
Speaker 3: if you if you're an artist and now on this list.
Speaker 3: That don't mean that we don't think.
Speaker 5: How nigga send us your lists, Ship and anybody. That's
Speaker 5: our telling, nigga, It's just our opinion. Like I said,
Speaker 5: we I've done records for thousands of years, Sowing has
Speaker 5: done interviews and written still has been in the publishing
Speaker 5: and fucked with motherfuckers, and so we just feel that
Speaker 5: our opinions we have, you know, not an advantage, but
Speaker 5: niggas is knowledge.
Speaker 3: You know what I don't like because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you this. You know who had a cold lass, who
Speaker 3: got classics too? Jail Feelingy. I saw him, you know,
Speaker 3: Jail was up in there. He said they had project
Speaker 3: pat twice. I can see Jao right now. I can
Speaker 3: see him all going on, man, fuck that cud.
Speaker 5: This is the thing, and this is what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: This is the thing.
Speaker 5: When you do a list and the list is coming
Speaker 5: from significant West Coast representation hip hop, a lot of
Speaker 5: West Coast artists is gonna probably be a little offended
Speaker 5: when they go, how can you say gangster rap?
Speaker 3: Nigga?
Speaker 5: And you ain't gonna know this. You ain't gonna know this, right, Nigga,
Speaker 5: I'm from San Diego from forties, and I'm from path
Speaker 5: in this and I'm from Long Beach this and Nigga,
Speaker 5: my records was on point. Everybody are the motherfucker dog
Speaker 5: jay Ao Asid Waller. He has to pity me of
Speaker 5: gangster ship. That's all I say. You can do records
Speaker 5: like sharms, stick and ship like that, focus on the
Speaker 5: focus on his own has hood shit, man, Niggas don't niggas.
Speaker 5: Niggas in the hood nigo at shirts and she got me, Nigga,
Speaker 5: go Juman's cigarette right now and be on the block
Speaker 5: high as a motherfucker. You know though, it's certain songs
Speaker 5: that niggas knew. You get me like, oh, this is
Speaker 5: gonna resonate good with the neighborhood because even though a
Speaker 5: nigga talking about some dope shit, just like you know
Speaker 5: how the youngsters do now talk about popping you a
Speaker 5: perky or fucking whatever, dang banging ass niggas not all
Speaker 5: of us, but it was a lot of niggas in
Speaker 5: the hood were smooking shining. So for somebody who you
Speaker 5: know has significantly spoke on West Coast gang culture, you
Speaker 5: feel me. Of course, you're gonna get a job like
Speaker 5: Nigga Project Pat nigga. I'm from San Diego, nigga forty
Speaker 5: this nigga, what the fuck?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 5: You know, no disrespect like I said, all my comrades, crips, bloods,
Speaker 5: you know, no disrespect. Still got his opinion. He's a
Speaker 5: Cleveland native, but he done stomped around this motherfucker long
Speaker 5: enough to where you know his opinion is his is
Speaker 5: nigga fuck? You know, same thing with sowing, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, radio shit, numerous interviews, videos, blogs, fucking whatever.
Speaker 5: He's then met a lot of us as far as
Speaker 5: it's hitting that way, ain't hitting, sir, And you know what, man,
Speaker 5: the thing heels like, especially you know, just going back
Speaker 5: to jail right for a minute. Right.
Speaker 3: I don't think people understand when you're putting these lists
Speaker 3: together how hard that shit is, because you.
Speaker 5: Take, honestly, some niggas might just be just I forgot
Speaker 5: damn you get it because you really be trying to
Speaker 5: put your thinking in that thinking. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: lie because I thought about you know, you wreak us.
Speaker 5: I've had about it eighty songs. When that motherfucker I
Speaker 5: was going back and forth. I was like, what man,
Speaker 5: and all this.
Speaker 1: And that I came up with about seventy seven right
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, like it was nothing.
Speaker 3: And then you got us the visions and like I
Speaker 3: told somebody because somebody said, man, you didn't put master
Speaker 3: P Ghetto d on there this and I said, you
Speaker 3: know what, man, I had the motherfucker their dog.
Speaker 5: But it just has that nigga hit me about my
Speaker 5: nigga threat, like I ain't got deadly thread up there.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, That's what I wasn't go do.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of cast now. When we was doing singles,
Speaker 3: it'd be a lot of people that got classic songs, right,
Speaker 3: but they don't necessarily have classic albums. And that that's
Speaker 3: just the other thing too. It's like these are when
Speaker 3: I was looking at the list and I'm coming up
Speaker 3: with my ideas.
Speaker 1: These are albums. So if it's got twelve songs, ten songs,
Speaker 1: eighteen songs, the all eighteen gotta be of the caliber
Speaker 1: of the other fifty albums. So like when you listen
Speaker 1: to you know, music to drive By or the Chronic
Speaker 1: or Death Certificate, what songs are you cutting off those
Speaker 1: to say, oh, these aren't good songs like you can't
Speaker 1: Do It. Whereas some of the albums that didn't make
Speaker 1: my list, that might have been in the fifties or
Speaker 1: the sixties or the seventies, there's three or four songs
Speaker 1: some of them maybe five songs where I love ten
Speaker 1: of them, But these other songs, I'm like, eh, I
Speaker 1: would miss them, Whereas on my top fifty and the
Speaker 1: higher you get, there's fewer and fewer instances where man,
Speaker 1: those three or four songs or we all know, some
Speaker 1: people be like man I on even listen to the
Speaker 1: first half of.
Speaker 5: The album, Well, I don't even when I wrote songs, man,
Speaker 5: I wasn't thinking about the other crowd. I was thinking
Speaker 5: about gang banging, niggas in the hoods struggling, right, I
Speaker 5: never because they were focused. I didn't try to you know,
Speaker 5: Oh fuck it. I'm gonna get the white people, the Chinese,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get the mass seekins. Nigga. I'm like nigga
Speaker 5: whoever struggling, can't get a job and over on the
Speaker 5: block every night, selling got niggas enemy shooting at you.
Speaker 3: That's who I'm mit music for. Because I'm fella, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel you man. And one thing I was gonna
Speaker 3: say before I forget on that thud Wife album, I
Speaker 3: had the privilege actually hearing the unedited version, because you know,
Speaker 3: Interscope butchered that album and it.
Speaker 1: Was really a short album too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised, No, but they had a lot
Speaker 3: of songs that was took off of that. Like you
Speaker 3: gotta remember Spice one was on that motherfucker. They had
Speaker 3: songs with Spice. They had a whole bunch of shit
Speaker 3: that wasn't doing that because you gotta remember at that time,
Speaker 3: Interscope was scared than the motherfucker, right, You had a
Speaker 3: bunch of shit, Glen and they was like, hey, oh
Speaker 3: no this motherfucker man, Sight played me that motherfucker. Dog.
Speaker 3: We's on our way over to Dubai. We's in the plane,
Speaker 3: and I heard the whole motherfucker, Like, just all the
Speaker 3: songs from them sessions. Dog. They as some dope ass
Speaker 3: motherfucker songs. Dog. Really, you got to hear a shell
Speaker 3: of what the album was, Hm. They had some dope
Speaker 3: ass records.
Speaker 1: I wish I could have heard the real the intended version,
Speaker 1: intended version, you know what, man, and I had to
Speaker 1: put all lives on me on that dog.
Speaker 3: I actually went back and revisited that dog. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that should have been one album, to be honest
Speaker 3: with you. But they had a bunch of dope songs
Speaker 3: on there, absolutely And what was crazy is some of
Speaker 3: the most banging his songs on that album was really
Speaker 3: songs that was gonna be for Dash and corrupt card Mine,
Speaker 3: made Up was Mine? Made Up? Was a dog Pound song?
Speaker 1: Makes sense.
Speaker 3: Dads was just on his ship at that time. Man,
Speaker 3: Dads is still a very underrated producer.
Speaker 1: I think absolutely, well, like I have said, what would
Speaker 1: you do? Nothing but the Cavey hit, Dad's got some
Speaker 1: some hitters.
Speaker 5: Hege you ain't ever gotten a knew with Dah Yeah,
Speaker 5: I've gotten I gotta saw, I got a single. Me
Speaker 5: and Dads did a video and everything. When I was signed,
Speaker 5: the sony hit the floor. And then I was on
Speaker 5: Dazzer's album Retaliation, Revenge and get Back. That was a
Speaker 5: great alt him and uh Me, him and Badass got
Speaker 5: us all together.
Speaker 3: Retaliation, Revenge and get Back.
Speaker 5: The ultimate come up nigga, nigga, get out, get in,
Speaker 5: get up, get your money, hold on man. The whole
Speaker 5: video is gonna be fucked up. I don't know, man, Now,
Speaker 5: get in, get up, get your money. It's the ultimate
Speaker 5: come up. He'll slinging and banging all my con the
Speaker 5: fucker ground and you might be a doling nigga. Get out,
Speaker 5: get in, Get up.
Speaker 3: Well, man, I guess suh, that's it. I guess that's
Speaker 3: the end of the show for the night. We gonna
Speaker 3: check y'all off next week. Man, you know Thanksgiving next week,
Speaker 3: so we still will have something in store for you,
Speaker 3: special little tree. We gonna put something together, real special, man,
Speaker 3: to get you through your holiday and everything else. Man,
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