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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our one on

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Speaker 1: this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan h S. Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: And in case you're wondering, we have not found the

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Speaker 1: key to the briefcase that we sent to the College

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame that contained Carson Palmer's Heisman trophy.

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Speaker 1: The I team has been up all night long and Paulie,

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Speaker 1: we've been trying to get information. Here there's a paper trail.

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Speaker 1: We have not found the key that was, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of slapped onto the side of the suitcase in

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Speaker 1: a white envelope and we sent it how we got

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Speaker 1: it from Carson Palmer. It's just the key never showed up.

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Speaker 1: So Carson got inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: he was going to have his Heisman trophy on display.

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Speaker 1: We sent it to the College Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Carson had his speech, he did not have the Heisman

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Speaker 1: trophy because we couldn't open up the case because we've

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Speaker 1: lost the key, misplaced the key. Yes, paul some people

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Speaker 1: said us sending the envelope on the side of the

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Speaker 1: heisman after they did like running a red light. Because

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Speaker 1: the guy in front of you runs a red light.

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Speaker 1: Excuse him. We do have a couple updates. I could

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Speaker 1: save them for later, because I know we got other

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Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. But the I team has updates later.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of finger pointing in here, and probably

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Speaker 1: mostly by Pauli. Oh but PAULI went through the emails,

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Speaker 1: an email trail, and next thing I know, I was

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Speaker 1: somehow implicated, or Fritzie was. I was the last person

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Speaker 1: to see the heisman trophy. I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna hire a lawyer. I may need one. But yes, John,

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Speaker 1: what about then we don't want to put it on

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Speaker 1: our guests because we love him, he joins us weekly.

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Speaker 1: But what about you're going to what about the carelessness

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Speaker 1: of someone that thought so little of his heisman that

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Speaker 1: it was just sitting in a garage clicking cobwebs. That

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Speaker 1: would look like a generous thing. He sent it, and

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Speaker 1: maybe he should have not sent it in the first place.

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Speaker 1: I trusted. No, No, you are the king of shifting blame.

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Speaker 1: And I can't do that to Carson Palmer. Okay, just

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Speaker 1: because he was negligent, maybe, and how he sent it

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Speaker 1: with the key slapped onto the side of it. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we should be as well. That's true. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you Todd. Yes, Paul, some people are comparing you

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Speaker 1: to Sean Payton or you know, remember that bountygate thing.

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Speaker 1: They said he had nothing to do with it, but

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Speaker 1: it's under his watch and you may get dinged for it. No,

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Speaker 1: it starts with me. I mean, I'm just like an

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Speaker 1: NFL coach where I'm going to take the blame. And

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Speaker 1: well Sean McDermott didn't exactly take the blame the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills losing last night to the New England Patriots. Good morning, everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the program already in progress. You know

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Speaker 1: that we got a chance to understand what the weather

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Speaker 1: was going to be like in Buffalo, and then we wondered,

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Speaker 1: what's the game plan going to be like in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: You know, Buffalo is not a They don't have a

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Speaker 1: team that seems like that they were ready to play

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo like weather. They got a quarterback who can

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Speaker 1: play in that kind of weather because he can throw

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Speaker 1: the ball in any kind of weather. They're just not

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Speaker 1: a running team, and New England was able to be

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Speaker 1: a running team last night. They had three pass attempts

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Speaker 1: completed two of them. But when do you decide, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is our game plan. Who decides what your game

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Speaker 1: plan is going to be? You know, Belichick is famous

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Speaker 1: for being able to after one quarter or one half

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Speaker 1: or one game, he's able to go, this is what

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Speaker 1: we're going to do in this game. But when you

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Speaker 1: think about throwing three passes, I mean that's extreme Army

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Speaker 1: football said, what the hell are the Patriots doing? You know,

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Speaker 1: they threw three passes, but they ran the football. And

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Speaker 1: when you have two hundred and twenty two yards controlling

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Speaker 1: the clock, you're getting almost five yards to carry. That

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Speaker 1: has a real impact on, you know, this game, and

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Speaker 1: it did last night. I'm getting ahead of myself with

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Speaker 1: a lot of things here with what happened with the Bills,

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Speaker 1: the game plan, Carson Palmer's Heisman trophy. But welcome in.

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Speaker 1: to the game. A lot of people expected the Patriots

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Speaker 1: Bills game to go long way and telling us which

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Speaker 1: AFC East team is the team that has the best

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Speaker 1: chance of going to the super Bowl. What went down

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Speaker 1: last night might not be truly indicative of what these

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Speaker 1: teams can do. It was cold, it was what it

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Speaker 1: credit to the Patriots, not just Bill Belichick, but the

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Speaker 1: Patriots for adjusting. And Belichick has shown through the years

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Speaker 1: that he can change his style to match his personnel.

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Speaker 1: In this situation, when you go back when he had

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Speaker 1: Brady and Randy Moss, they were lightening up the night,

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Speaker 1: great passing team. But this is a team that kind

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Speaker 1: of has reverted to its conservative routs. They have a

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Speaker 1: different in a couple of weeks when they play again.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, the Buffalo Bill's head coach, not exactly handing

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Speaker 1: out verbal bouquets to Bill Belichick. How would you just

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Speaker 1: explain the psychological component of coaching against Bill Belichick, especially

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Speaker 1: Const Let's not give more credit than we need to

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Speaker 1: give credit to Bill Belichick, And this one it was

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Speaker 1: whether it's Bill or anybody else, they beat us, right.

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Speaker 1: But you sit here and you tell me when they

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Speaker 1: start with the average starting when we start with adverag

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Speaker 1: that ahead it I'm sorry. I like my chances, I

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Speaker 1: all due respect, it's not a Bill Belichick type thing.

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Speaker 1: It's what are you doing with the opportunities you got? Well,

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Speaker 1: that scenario. You were given those scenarios. Literally was a

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Speaker 1: the Patriots eight points. Okay, here is Bill Belichick talking

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Speaker 1: I worked out. I don't know. Josh did a good

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Speaker 1: not gonna go man, I'm great. You know I came

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Speaker 1: I would love to know Josh McDaniel's role here because

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Speaker 1: we do tend to say Bill Belichick. Belichick deals with

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Speaker 1: We keep waiting. I think we were secretly rooting for Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: maybe not so secretly, because we're tired of seeing Belichick

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots. He's done a great job, a masterful job. Right.

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Speaker 1: be great. If the Patriots played the Buccaneers, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was still Matthew Judon is the signing of the year.

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Speaker 1: and how important that was going to be yeampoing just

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Speaker 1: smart it was. The Bells had two chances to score

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Speaker 1: game in Cleveland just not good enough to stand alone.

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Speaker 1: So that's an issue for me. Buffalo Again, it's still

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He's a superstar, definitely one of the best

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the football. That defense is still very good.

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Speaker 1: I still have more faith in them host one last night,

429
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's wearing longer spikes against the Tennessee Titans. They

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Speaker 1: probably win that game when they're down there on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback sneak and he slips late in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think it's been more consistent in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: throughout the year than Cleveland, that's for sure. And Buffalo

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Speaker 1: has been losing to all the teams that they're gonna

435
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Speaker 1: have to compete with if they get to the playoffs,

436
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Speaker 1: Like they don't have like what's the signature win here?

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Speaker 1: And I just don't get a good feeling. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have a good feeling to start the year and thought

439
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Speaker 1: they relied on Josh Allen too much, Right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: But I know and I wonder if Cleveland would have

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Speaker 1: been better if they had gone to case Keenum and

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Speaker 1: instead of letting Baker Mayfield go out there injured. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get that, you know. You know, Hey, Baker does

444
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Speaker 1: bring value, there's no doubt, And that's where the coaches

445
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Speaker 1: got to figure out, like at what point is he

446
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Speaker 1: hurting the offense? You know, So that's a real thing.

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Speaker 1: And it's again the games haven't been good. But I

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Speaker 1: also could sit there Dad, and you know, look at

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Speaker 1: it and go, yeah, Baker the Detroit Lion game for sure,

450
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: missing throws on that one, But some of these other games.

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Speaker 1: As a late too, I want to just watch some

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Speaker 1: plays and go where do you want them to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball? Where the New England game, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: nobody open. Baltimore game. I didn't sit come away watching

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Speaker 1: that film going oh man, people are open. Baker really

456
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: messed up, not at all. And that's where they're a

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Speaker 1: little underwhelming. And your point about I think Buffalo is

458
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Speaker 1: spot on two. You know, if you're not, if you're

459
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Speaker 1: staying the same, you're getting worse. It's like they kind

460
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Speaker 1: of just went, wait, we were good last year, we'll

461
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Speaker 1: do it all again this year. No, you need to

462
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Speaker 1: improve your football team a little bit. And it is

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Speaker 1: to Josh Allen reliant to your point. And I think

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Speaker 1: the other thing, too, is what we've seen, like especially

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Speaker 1: in the Tennessee the Colts and the Patriots losses, when

466
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Speaker 1: there's an overpowering, big offensive line running football team, they're

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Speaker 1: a little compromised. They're not a big front seven team.

468
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Speaker 1: They want to play basically nickel all game long. And

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Speaker 1: you know, again if they can get you to overplay

470
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Speaker 1: the run the way they did in all those games.

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Speaker 1: If you can just pass a little, you can expose them.

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Speaker 1: And of course last night they didn't even have to

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Speaker 1: pass to still have their way. He's Chris Simms Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk Live, co host the show that precedes ours

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Speaker 1: on Peacuck with Mike Florio. If I said you can

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Speaker 1: have the Chiefs of the Patriots the rest of the year, Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, Patriots, Patriots. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm

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Speaker 1: not taking the Chiefs yet. I can't do that yet. No,

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Speaker 1: you know again, I like what the Chiefs defense is doing.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know the Patriots is not sexy, but

481
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Speaker 1: neither was two thousand and one Super Bowl run. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just get used to twenty to seventeen, twenty three to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: I just think that's the style of a play they are.

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Speaker 1: But they're too consistent on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: You know again, the other night with the Chiefs offense,

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Speaker 1: they just can't seem to be consistent or get out

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Speaker 1: of their own way, whether it's drop passes, Mahomes still

488
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Speaker 1: missing throws where I'd go, man, the average NFL quarterback

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Speaker 1: should make that throw. Let alone Patrick Mahomes all these years,

490
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Speaker 1: I see him do it with his eyes closed, you know.

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Speaker 1: So it's just a it's a crazy year from that

492
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Speaker 1: standpoint of I haven't seen a guy that was so

493
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Speaker 1: amazing saying, you know, kind of come back to earth

494
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Speaker 1: and just not be that amazing in a lot of

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Speaker 1: moments during during the year, we're running out of MVP candidates.

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Speaker 1: Feels like it's Tom Brady. Then there's a big separation, like,

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Speaker 1: guess Aaron Rodgers, I guess Mahomes is in there. I

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Speaker 1: can't put johnsh Allen in there. No, you can't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can put Mahomes in there either, right,

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Speaker 1: you know you can't. I don't think you can. And

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Speaker 1: we all want to. The touchdowns are gonna be there, Jonathan, right,

502
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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, that's one guy I'll look at for sure.

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Speaker 1: I think that could be in this conversation. Maybe if

504
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Speaker 1: T J. Watt gets on fire here the last few

505
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: weeks and gets the twenty two sacks somewhere in that range.

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Speaker 1: But again, I don't know. The playoffs, they give it

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Speaker 1: to the defensive player of the year. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: now they separate that. But it feels like Brady is

509
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Speaker 1: just being Brady. Maybe nothing special, but that might be

510
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Speaker 1: good enough because everybody else has been inconsistent, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I've think, you know, really Kyler Murray being out for

512
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Speaker 1: a month, is it's gonna cost him the MVP because

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Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance they do end up

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Speaker 1: with the top seed in the NFC playoffs and he'd

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Speaker 1: be that guy like they jumped on the scene this year.

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00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: He's the quarterback. We know how dangerous he was, so

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Speaker 1: his injury affected that. I would I'm with you and

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Speaker 1: the fact that, yeah, it's probably Brady from the facts

519
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: of wins and stats, you know. But I guess what

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Speaker 1: I would say a little bit is the name you

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Speaker 1: brought up to me, Aaron Rodgers right now. Again, as

522
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Speaker 1: annoying as he was during the COVID thing, he you know,

523
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Speaker 1: is just a poster child for MVP. We see how

524
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Speaker 1: average they are without him when he wasn't in there.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's special. Again, I don't think any of

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Speaker 1: us think that the supporting cast is that great. It's good,

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00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: no doubt, but not great. You and to me, he

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Speaker 1: is just a big what he does with the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, having a feel for the overall game. You know,

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Speaker 1: I would look at him and Brady and probably Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor's the three guys right now. I think it's gonna

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00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: hurt Rogers with what happened. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, and

533
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Speaker 1: it should because you know you're gonna be the most

534
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Speaker 1: valuable player, but then you missed the Kansas City game

535
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: or maybe cost your team the number one seed. Right.

536
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: I agree, that's gonna come back to bite him in

537
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: the butt most likely. But yeah, the way the Brady

538
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: is throwing the ball, their offense just continues to attack.

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00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: It seems like it again, they're gonna get the wins

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna have the numbers to match it. It

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Speaker 1: seems like it's lining up for that. What's your opinion

542
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: on the pseudos slide by Kenny Pickett the Pittsburgh quarterbacks

543
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: in the ACCA title game. Oh, it makes me want

544
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: to puke. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of all

545
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: this protecting the quarterback crap. I mean, that's like cheating

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Speaker 1: right there. It's cheating, it really is. I I you

547
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Speaker 1: know again, I'm not mad at him. He's don't hate

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00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: the player, hate the game. I understand that. But to me,

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Speaker 1: this is again, this is another just little snippet of

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Speaker 1: information that we have to protecting the quarterback has gone.

551
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: We were just overboard, overboard some of the horrible calls

552
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. The horrible call last night Josh Allen

553
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: is running, he jumps in bounds and gets hit and

554
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: they called hitting the quarterback too hard. Again. I didn't

555
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Speaker 1: like it. I really don't, and I think that football

556
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: has got to do something about it. Wait, do you

557
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Speaker 1: think quarterbacks are embarrassed by the protection they receive? Like?

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00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: I think they know how embarrassing it is, but they're

559
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Speaker 1: gonna try to do all they can to take advantage

560
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Speaker 1: of it. I think they know. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Brady and Rogers and Josh Allen like they're tough,

562
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Speaker 1: football minded guys, not just quarterbacks. But I think they

563
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Speaker 1: also they realize, Yeah, I mean that's bad. Football is

564
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: getting rewarded. Hey, we didn't protect nobody was open, but

565
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Speaker 1: you hit me too hard. It's great first down. Fantasy

566
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Speaker 1: owners were still going offense is good. I think they

567
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Speaker 1: know's how embarrassing is, but they're gonna do their best

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Speaker 1: to get a free fifteen all they can. And I

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Speaker 1: can't be mad at them for that. Brady would not

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Speaker 1: still be playing if this was the nineteen seventies, no Way,

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Speaker 1: or the eighty or again. Yeah right, he wouldn't. You know,

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Speaker 1: I would have a hard time thinking so, I mean

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Speaker 1: just watching you know, my dad, Dan Marino, John Elway,

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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman. I mean the beating they took. I mean,

575
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Speaker 1: you know the dead weight rule. I mean Reggie White

576
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Speaker 1: literally used to pick my dad up and just drop

577
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Speaker 1: his weight on him and body slam them. And you know,

578
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: my dad's shoulders are still paying the price for that.

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00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean he would have a little more cartilage, might

580
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Speaker 1: be able to throw the ball overhand to his grandkids,

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Speaker 1: but he can't do that. Wow. Yes, yes, there's an

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Speaker 1: issue there. Yeah. Just does Tampa have any issues that

583
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Speaker 1: concern you heading into the home stretch A little bit?

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00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: A little they do? You know, there hasn't been cleaned

585
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Speaker 1: the last two weeks. I mean, they were begging for

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Speaker 1: the Colts to beat them. The Colts outplayed them well

587
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: again last week. Atlanta hung around, had some long drives,

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00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: defensively not playing that good right now, That's one of

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Speaker 1: the first films I'm gonna go watch here Dan when

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00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: I get done, just because, hey, Matt and Ryan and

591
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: company had a little success run in the football. But man,

592
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: you know they're letting up a lot of plays in

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Speaker 1: the past game. They are, and I know they're just

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Speaker 1: getting healthy in the secondary, but you know, not playing

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Speaker 1: at the elite level that I think they're capable of.

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00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: That's for sure. You know they're winning games. I know that,

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00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's their best football. Great to

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Speaker 1: talk to you, buddy, Thank you, Chris, Thanks Matt, be good.

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Speaker 1: That's Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live, co host and

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Speaker 1: contributor to Football Night in America. Andrew and Washington leads

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Speaker 1: us off this morning. Good morning, Andrew, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 1: Good morning Dan and Dan. It's thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Excellent weekend of football. I have a Monday night football

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Speaker 1: referendum because we all have to make art. Yes we do.

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Speaker 1: It takes afterwards. So I would list like to say

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun versus run the MVP, versus the

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year LA twenty twenty two Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. And secondly, I have a stat

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Speaker 1: of the day. Oh okay, Seaton hit the music, die

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Speaker 1: all right. Patri's sort of the only third team in

611
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Speaker 1: NFL history to attempt exactly three passes in a game.

612
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: The other two years besides twenty twenty one it happened

613
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Speaker 1: was nineteen sixty eight and nineteen forty six. That's your

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Speaker 1: stat of the day. I like Andrew talking up to

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Speaker 1: the post. You know you haven't seen a game like this.

616
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Speaker 1: I wanted Paulie to go back and look at Tom

617
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Speaker 1: Brady's rookie years, first year taking over for the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Did he have how many games did he have with

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Speaker 1: fifteen passes or less? Well, he had a few of them, Brady,

620
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Speaker 1: But every one of those games where Brady had fifteen

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Speaker 1: or fewer pass attempts was either he was injured, he

622
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Speaker 1: was filling in for someone injured. So we did a

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Speaker 1: deep dive a game where Brady played all four quarters

624
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Speaker 1: in a game that mattered, not like a week seventeen

625
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: that they were just trying to get out of the building.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and four, October tenth, the Patriots beat the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins twenty four to ten. Brady had nineteen attempts, he

628
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Speaker 1: completed seven, He had two touchdowns and a pick, and

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Speaker 1: Corey Dillon ran the ball for a hundred yards. But

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Speaker 1: do you think New England would have had a different

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Speaker 1: philosophy if Tom Brady was quarterbacking last night in that wind,

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Speaker 1: in those conditions. I just can't imagine that Bill's going

633
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Speaker 1: to go to Tom and say to just handed football off.

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Speaker 1: That's all you need to do. I mean, mac Jones

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Speaker 1: is a rookie. He can't say anything. I can't imagine. Now,

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Speaker 1: do I think that they would have limited the number

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Speaker 1: of pass attempts that Brady would have? Yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 1: good at guess he's probably thrown at fifteen times last

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Speaker 1: night at least. Yeah, McClellan. So you think Belichick's happier

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Speaker 1: having a rookie quarterback he can push around and do

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Speaker 1: whatever he wants. Well, I'm sure he would love to

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Speaker 1: have Tom, but you know he's gonna program mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: He programmed Tom, and you know it's almost like you

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Speaker 1: the monster? You built it? And you know, so Tom

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Speaker 1: then has his own opinions of what they should do

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Speaker 1: or how they should do it. Mac Jones is just happy, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm playing, Hey, three passes, all right? Whatever I need

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Speaker 1: to do. But you just want to win. Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: went from Nick Saban to Bill Belichick. He's used to winning.

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Speaker 1: What do we need to do? All right, I'll do

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Speaker 1: it now, do I think? Mac Jones then gets to

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Speaker 1: a certain point where ego gets involved. Yeah, but in

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind today? Hey? Man? How you doing? Man?

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Speaker 1: Good sir? Hey? I just want to bring this up.

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Speaker 1: This was such a classic game. I would want to

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Speaker 1: see it again. It was classic defensive It was scheme.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, though, I don't think Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: where the Bills were able to score. And another point

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Speaker 1: was the wide right. That was such a classic Buffalo moment. Man,

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Speaker 1: that was such a classic Buffalo thing. It was a

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Speaker 1: good game. Yeah again, thank you, Thomas. You know what's

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Speaker 1: interesting with Belichick and I just had a friend who

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Speaker 1: works in the NFL. He said, you know what Belichick

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Speaker 1: to quarters. Sometimes he's changed philosophies. Rodney Harrison, who played

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Speaker 1: the half they would change the philosophy. But it was

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Speaker 1: not about hey, Bill, does this try to stop me?

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Speaker 1: It's this is what you don't do well because I

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Speaker 1: don't think running the football, you go, boy, that's what

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Speaker 1: the Patriots do. They run them. I mean they don't

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Speaker 1: have a great running back. They have good running backs,

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Speaker 1: they have a good offensive line, but it's not like

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Speaker 1: they have Jonathan Taylor. It's just or Derrick Henry. They

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Speaker 1: took advantage of. You know, Buffalo to me, is built

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Speaker 1: see the team you're supposed to be the team that's

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Speaker 1: winning the style they play, now you try to counteract that.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of teams in the AFC

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Speaker 1: we're trying to be like the Kansas City Chiefs or

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Speaker 1: Same with Tampa. You know you're you're going to try.

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Speaker 1: You know, I go back to the Greatest Show on

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Speaker 1: Turf with the Saint Louis Rams. Everybody was trying to

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Speaker 1: copy the MS and you didn't have Kurt Warner, you

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Speaker 1: you didn't have a Hall of Fame running back. But

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Speaker 1: they were trying to emulate that. And then what does

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Speaker 1: Belichick do against the Greatest Show on Turf? He he

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Speaker 1: has the physicality there. You were a finesse team and

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Speaker 1: he was going to take that finesse away from you.

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Speaker 1: This is what you don't do well, when people body

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Speaker 1: you against the Colts in Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison,

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Speaker 1: it was about being physical with them, bodying them, and

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Speaker 1: that's what happened last night. Patriots were more physical than

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and that's what they've been doing. It's

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Speaker 1: not pretty. I mean at times it's pretty boring, but

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Speaker 1: it is conservative in its smart football. For Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: this is just who he is. We have an ie team.

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Speaker 1: We're looking for updates here we can't find. We do

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Speaker 1: know that the case that has the heisman in it

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Speaker 1: was shipped to the College Football Hall of Fame in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. By the way, Las Vegas the greatest arena

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Speaker 1: on earth. But it was shipped in in an incredible

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Speaker 1: suitcase of sorts. It's a heisman suitcase. Well, we put

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Speaker 1: the key on the outside in an envelope, and that's

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Speaker 1: how we got it from Carson Palmer. So we thought, okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll just return the favor. Now. I didn't see the

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Speaker 1: final shipping. I did see when the suitcase was closed

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Speaker 1: the heisman was in there. Fritzie did oversee the key

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Speaker 1: being put in an envelope. That would be kind of exaggerated.

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Speaker 1: These were you responsible? Were you responsible? I was responsible

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Speaker 1: for delegating the heismotropher to be shipped back to the

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Speaker 1: Carson and the conscience. So people under you, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say under me they work were all colleagues, but I

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Speaker 1: did not physic Are you an executive producer? I'm the

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Speaker 1: booker and then whatever else you guys, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's convenient not to call me a booklet. Okay, now

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Speaker 1: it's convenient to not be an exact producer exactly the

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Speaker 1: title changes based on that affects your pay grade? I

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Speaker 1: guess it does. Yeah, you just demoted yourself just to

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Speaker 1: avoid of taking the blame for where a questin Parmers

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Speaker 1: what is the IT team update poem? So Dan, I

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Speaker 1: got ahold of a person at a shipping company. I

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Speaker 1: can't give out the name or and I asked. I

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Speaker 1: told him the situation. This person, who's an expert in shipping,

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Speaker 1: said quote taping anything to the outside of a package

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Speaker 1: of risk. I would advise sending the key separately so

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Speaker 1: she could track the key, which is so obvious that

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Speaker 1: it might not even be on our shipping policy pages.

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Speaker 1: I went to a major shipping That's an actual quote damn,

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Speaker 1: which is so obviously my hurts a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: went to a big time shipping place if rhymes with

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Speaker 1: redbacks um shipping. A transit case can be effectively protect computers.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't tell you to not stick the key

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Speaker 1: on the side, so it's not laid out for you. Now,

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Speaker 1: I would have suggested that we send it separately and

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Speaker 1: then you can have somebody signed for the key. You

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Speaker 1: ever see those um brings trucks that carry money down

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's an example, Okay, Jesse and Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles side Jess, Morning Jenny, Good morning Jents. Yesterday's late

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Speaker 1: breaking news on the Heisman was huge. But here's three

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Speaker 1: things I kept thinking about that might lighten the situation

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Speaker 1: with the developing news. And number one, with all this

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Speaker 1: going on, how great would it be to have Keith

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Speaker 1: Morrison do the summary of the findings into this investigation

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Speaker 1: when it's all said. Number Two, the thought of some

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Speaker 1: fedecked employee, as Seaton said, opening the Heisman case, seeing

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Speaker 1: what was inside and doing some Indian and Jones s

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Speaker 1: It's pretty funny to me. And lot number three with

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Speaker 1: Micklevin leaving and the guilty party in this is obviously

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Speaker 1: gonna get canned. That's two opening And this would be

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Speaker 1: like if Cincinnati and Alabama both lost his past weekend.

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Speaker 1: And I'm notre dame, I'm on deck. I gotta be

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Speaker 1: will happen to get but one more thing, my mcloven

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Speaker 1: memory of the day. I'm gonna do it every time

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Speaker 1: I call it until he leaves. Stealing food off that

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Speaker 1: Ladies played at the seven sies. Oh thank you, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: It makes me cringe whenever I see that video where

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Speaker 1: we had mclovin act as if he was a server

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Speaker 1: the ketchup. Oh my god, what's that? What a jerk.

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Speaker 1: I know, all right. One hour in the books, two

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Speaker 1: later on more phone calls as well. Maybe we'll track

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Speaker 1: down Carson Palmer's heisman. Maybe one more writing we close

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