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Speaker 4: This you just heard Kelvin Washington, Martin Weiss in the

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Speaker 4: building for Rob Parker. Rob is on VK. So get

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Speaker 4: used to that for a little bit. We're gonna have

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Speaker 4: a great week.

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Speaker 2: Martin.

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Speaker 4: Right back tomorrow, right, yes, sir, right be here tomorrow

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Speaker 4: FSR and then myself K dub Live, which I need

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Speaker 4: to check in on Twitter X. I should say I

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Speaker 4: couldn't get to the end in Kelvin Washington because that

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Speaker 4: was the last letter of the maximum, So I got

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Speaker 4: all the way to Kelvin, washingt Toe, I couldn't get

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Speaker 4: the end, so I went kter. That's how it all started,

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Speaker 4: because obviously Twitter was before Instagram, and then I wanted

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Speaker 4: in now. Obviously I wouldn't just because it's the pointless

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Speaker 2: Well first to be like that.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's pointless at this point. But you

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Speaker 5: have a unique cool name. I have the same name everywhere.

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Speaker 5: I can't. I don't have like a cool like. Everybody

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Speaker 5: knows who you are. When you type the thing in,

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Speaker 5: it says your name right there. So instead of it

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Speaker 5: saying Kelvin Washington and Kelvin Washington like says Martin Wis.

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Speaker 5: Martin Wie is like, oh, dull, you know you at

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Speaker 5: least have something that is also catchy. But you've been

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Speaker 5: doing it long enough where it's like now not quite professional.

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Speaker 2: But I mean I know what you mean. I know

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Speaker 4: We started, you know, back in the Just Music radio day. Well,

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Speaker 4: first of all, went back to high school to nickname.

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Speaker 2: That's what you know.

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Speaker 4: Shout to my boys who hair, who gave it to

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Speaker 4: me one day, walked up on me, was like, what up?

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Speaker 2: Kicked up?

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Speaker 4: And I was looking around like I literally looked back

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Speaker 4: like who is he talking about?

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Speaker 4: I'm like, hell, ke dude, and it's been sticking ever since.

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Speaker 4: But shots your hair for that Ketle lied for myself.

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Speaker 4: My high school name doesn't stick no more. I can't

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Speaker 2: Really? Yeah? FCC is not letting that go now. I

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Speaker 2: want to hear what it is now, Robby, you have

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Speaker 2: a nickname other than rob G.

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Speaker 7: Literally nobody calls me robb G other than here. And

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Speaker 7: it should have been Robert G at whatever. There was

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Speaker 2: Know who was first though, Danny G or Robb G was.

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Speaker 2: But how did he feel? Oh, Rob G? Not bad?

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Speaker 4: I didnt Pickett, you have a nickname name? No, so

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Speaker 2: This is where we get into the dark times of this.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry not to cut an alix, but like where

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Speaker 5: So I asked Muggsy Bogues about this. If anybody to

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Speaker 7: I think we have got a shock anymore to give

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Speaker 2: Flash, to call him the truth.

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Speaker 7: He digged about four five Big Aristotle, the big Diesel.

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Speaker 4: The big Fundamental, lokey Jack, the big do you get

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Speaker 4: I think that was what what Mark was saying. I

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Speaker 7: Toby gave his nickname. Lebron gave his nickname.

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Speaker 4: Wait little saying Lebron's is the chosen one? Was the

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Speaker 7: There was nobody saying, hey man, that twelve year old

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Speaker 5: There was one person at least, and he's on ESPN

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Speaker 7: Who's nicknaming twelve year olds?

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Speaker 4: The man has not on that Sports Illustrated So he

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Speaker 5: The guy who was Greg and Saint Louis covered tweeted

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Speaker 2: When she was a left that It says Diana to Rozzi,

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I would be proud of that.

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Speaker 7: I was just not quite as weird as Rob saying,

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Speaker 4: By the way, it's great, I was kind level.

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Speaker 2: That was not a way for that. Mark your fiance.

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Speaker 7: Yes, don't let Rob around her.

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Speaker 2: Has he been around her? Yeah? Oh he's for sure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's I'm for sure following you.

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Speaker 2: He got my wife. Rob treats everyway like Disneyland. I

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Speaker 4: He was slip let me, I want to show you

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Speaker 4: this picture for me in nineteen eighty nine. Wait, that

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Speaker 4: was two weeks ago. Round Oh man, it was you

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Speaker 4: ever screenshot at something? That's how That's how it started.

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Speaker 4: He told me that I deleted it, though I don't

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Speaker 4: Not of it solidified because me and Rob disagreed. He

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Speaker 4: obviously had the pick pacers and six. I had thunder

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Speaker 4: in five they won, but it was in seven and

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Speaker 4: I started look at this team how they're comprised it.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, man, this team has the making and credit

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Speaker 4: you obviously have to have a guy, right, You're not

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Speaker 4: But he has the makings of a great, uh good

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Speaker 4: to great second player. But I'm looking at this team.

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Speaker 4: When you show me that you're defensive minded, that's a

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Speaker 4: When you have a guy who can just put up

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Speaker 5: That's what happens when you watched his postgame interviews, well,

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Speaker 5: all of them. And I know this affects me disproportionately

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Speaker 5: because of the days you have. So I actually you

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Speaker 4: That sounds like a punishment. Man, tell us the security

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Speaker 4: OKC postgame press conference, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Tell you everything you want to know. I'm snitching. I'll

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Speaker 4: If you think, put the headphones on and make him

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Speaker 4: listen to OKAC press conference and I'll tell you everything.

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Speaker 2: But I think this team is is gonna go on

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Speaker 4: The minimum to me is a Boston the j run

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Speaker 4: Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum where with five six years Eastern

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Speaker 4: I want to make sure I give the next credit.

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Speaker 4: But to me, that's the minimum run. Where we're in

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Speaker 2: That's the minimal run.

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Speaker 4: To me that I expect this team to be on

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Speaker 4: yet since yesterday, I expect one more title and for

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Speaker 4: them to be at least competing for a handful of years.

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Speaker 2: I think they're built well.

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Speaker 4: When I see two wings like that who are defensive

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Speaker 4: masterful throughout his tenure. I expect them to win one

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Speaker 4: more minimally and to be in that mix off the

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Speaker 5: So I would say the j run is one that

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Speaker 5: Like that's my thing, because that's my point, you said,

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Speaker 2: But you know what, though, like so was Michael Porter junior,

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Speaker 2: come on, what the achillest? Further Ado, what the Achilles is?

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Speaker 4: Shay Gildess Alexander and he became the fourth player in

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Speaker 4: NBA history to win the MVP the scoring title in

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Speaker 4: the NBA Championship all in the same season. He joins

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Speaker 4: cap Kareem abdul Jabbar, the obvious one, Michael Jordan, and

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Speaker 4: Shaquille o'nial in that exclusive club. So again, shout out

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Speaker 4: to SGA for being our Express Pro of the Week.

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Speaker 4: And now let me ask you this we were talking

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Speaker 4: about before the break there. I believe they're gonna go

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Speaker 4: to a nice run again. I'm not saying they're gonna

449
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Speaker 4: three peat or anything like that, but I think they'll

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Speaker 4: go on a very Celtics like get to another finals

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Speaker 4: or to win one more.

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Speaker 2: I do think they're gonna win one more. Uh. This

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Speaker 2: iteration of.

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Speaker 4: Them uh if with other teams out there, is there

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Speaker 4: someone you look at that's in their way?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 5: If you I watched Luca Dodgers get to the finals

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Speaker 5: with PJ. Washington, Daniel Gafford and Derks, Like I think

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Speaker 5: think that the Lakers run after getting a stretch will

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Speaker 5: give this team trouble. Like I could I could see

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Speaker 5: them giving this team trouble when we talk about Stott

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Speaker 5: like the I think I'll put it like this, Any

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Speaker 5: team I think that can execute effectively in a half

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Speaker 5: court system is going to give them more trouble than

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Speaker 5: teams like even like Indiana did. Indiana was key because

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Speaker 5: they didn't turn the ball over a lot. That's why

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Speaker 5: they were able to If they can execute in a

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Speaker 5: half court which limits turnovers, that's how this team is.

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Speaker 2: Is what makes okay, see that is their elite skill.

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Speaker 5: To me, they will steal the ball from you five

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Speaker 5: times in a row and it like it is.

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Speaker 2: That's what to me makes them that elite.

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Speaker 5: So like like a Denver like signon with a guy

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Speaker 5: like Joki's running your offense, you know probably's not gonna

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Speaker 5: turn the ball over a ton. I think they would

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Speaker 5: give them some trouble. Okay, see you'll have the deepest roster.

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Speaker 5: But again, you can only play five guys at a time.

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Speaker 5: They have they have their built for that.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, you you play sports out you

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Speaker 4: play basketball right in high seat, high school, that matter.

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Speaker 4: You play everything you were taught defensively, don't reach you know,

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Speaker 4: don't don't try to know. We don't need to getting

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Speaker 4: in foul, trouble or go for the steal. Don't go

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Speaker 4: for stick. If you go for the steal, you better

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Speaker 4: get it. They just go for everything. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: actually mine by me and Rob will be sitting here,

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Speaker 4: you know, during some of the games throughout the postseason,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, they are.

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Speaker 2: They go for everything.

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Speaker 4: They go for all steals, diving on the floor, things

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Speaker 4: that you kind of thought were keep you man in

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Speaker 4: front of you, they'll try to reach behind. And it's

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Speaker 4: just that it is amazing to see when you watch

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Speaker 4: them defensively and you're to your point, they turn those

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Speaker 4: into points off turnovers in a hurry.

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Speaker 2: So that is what makes them really good. All right,

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Speaker 2: we got on the way.

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Speaker 4: Benjamin Garcia on the other side of us trending Steve

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Speaker 4: the Seger.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,

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Speaker 3: four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: All Right, Steve, thank you so much, Odd Couple, Kevin Washington,

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Speaker 4: Martin Wise and for Rob or the Magic City Monday,

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Speaker 4: and we are joined now by Benjamin Garcia, host of

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Speaker 4: the Ben Garcia Showing YouTube, host of the Locked Own

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Speaker 4: Suns podcast.

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Speaker 2: Been what's going on? How you doing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, not a problem.

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Speaker 4: All right, You got Martin and I here been talking

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Speaker 4: a little bit about this trade that eventually, at some

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Speaker 4: point will be finalized. Uh, just start with the beginning

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Speaker 4: of this. How shocked were you as particular the team

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Speaker 4: was the Rockets, maybe the when it happened. Obviously they

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Speaker 4: couldn't get a deal earlier during the season. Just your

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Speaker 4: initial thoughts of when this happened.

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Speaker 6: Well, they couldn't get a deal done the middle of

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Speaker 6: the season because Kevin Durant said that that's not happening.

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Speaker 6: You know, I've heard before that. You know, Kevin Durant

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Speaker 6: was very very close to being traded to the Golden

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Speaker 6: State Orders, but eventually he's the one that backed out.

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Speaker 6: On that deal. So yeah, ultimately thought that he's gone. No, No,

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Speaker 6: I'm shocked the value that they got back because you

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Speaker 6: talk about Jalen Green, a guy that it was. It's

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Speaker 6: the same problem that they had with Kevin Durant, Devin

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Speaker 6: Booker and Bradley deal was too much redundancy if each

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Speaker 6: guy did a lot of a lot of the same things,

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Speaker 6: but one guy event in the other one and Bradley

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Speaker 6: bial was a distant third to those two. And now

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Speaker 6: you talk about Jalen Green, You're bringing in someone who

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Speaker 6: maybe at his best in seven Booker, but right now

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Speaker 6: I would probably port to maybe even a poor man's

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Speaker 6: Bradley Biala when at Bradley Beal's peak. So it's the

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Speaker 6: value for Kevin Duranty, it feels like you have to

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Speaker 6: get more. But ultimately no, man not surprised that this

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Speaker 6: deal finally went down. I'm a little surprised that it

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Speaker 6: happened on Sunday and it didn't go further down the

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Speaker 6: pike maybe Tuesday or Wednesday. But overall the value not great.

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Speaker 6: But shocked. No, this divorce was was It feels like

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Speaker 6: months in the making, maybe years.

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Speaker 5: So I know Ben ben Garcia joining us here on

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Speaker 5: the odd couple Martin Wise here, I know that you

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Speaker 5: are cover this from the Arizona side of things and

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Speaker 5: are looking at it primarily through that lens. And I

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Speaker 5: know that there were at least I believe I saw

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Speaker 5: a statement that like they're planning on keeping Jalen Green, right,

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Speaker 5: But this is it. The whole points you get those

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Speaker 5: five second round picks in this deal is to try

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Speaker 5: to package some of this together some uh to your.

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Speaker 2: Point, all of those guys you got there, can.

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Speaker 5: I give you two second round picks and ex player

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Speaker 5: to get a first round or please because we need

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Speaker 5: a draft pick in the worst way.

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Speaker 6: Are you saying in terms of trying to package Jalen

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Speaker 6: Green getting more, getting more draft capital or potentially someone

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Speaker 6: else in the deal?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying, like you, you just kind of alluded

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 5: You got the same player just a little bit worse

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Speaker 5: eight of times between Devin Booker, Jalen Green, Bradley Beal

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Speaker 5: and then even the Dune kid who I know that

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Speaker 5: they like. But they all are competing for the same

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Speaker 5: minutes that throw Brooks in there too. That's why you

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Speaker 5: get to these second round picks. This can't be the roster.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna see night one in Phoenix.

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Speaker 6: You know, you say it, you say it can't be.

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Speaker 6: And I worry that it might be the case because

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Speaker 6: if the Suns didn't want Jalen Green and the report

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Speaker 6: and reporting, and I've hearked back all the way in

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Speaker 6: February that the Sun's word not interested in Jalen Green,

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Speaker 6: and now it comes out, Oh no, they really like

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Speaker 6: to fit. They're interested in Jalen Green. Everything's going to

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Speaker 6: be great here in Phoenix. I don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 6: I think the Sun's already tried to reroute Jalen Green

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Speaker 6: a bunch of other places, and everyone else said, we're good.

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Speaker 6: He's Jalen Green is a talent, super athletic, but he's

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Speaker 6: really creditated on hitting the three ball. He shoots about

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Speaker 6: eight of them a game and doesn't shoot it at

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Speaker 6: a very high clip. He was asked to be the

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Speaker 6: leading scorer on a rocket steam that was legitimately per

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Speaker 6: one hundred possessions was better without him on the on

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Speaker 6: the floor by about eight points. So I think if

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Speaker 6: the Suns were going to reroute him, they would have

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Speaker 6: taken a couple extra days. Maybe. Hope Houston gets a

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Speaker 6: little bit more worried about if they're going to make

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Speaker 6: this deal happen. I think they've already tried to. Now

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Speaker 6: the five second round picks that you mentioned, could they

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Speaker 6: move Bradley Beal with those picks? I think that is

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Speaker 6: far more likely because you're right a backcourt of grief Allen,

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Speaker 6: Devin Booker, Jalen Green, and I mean, you name it.

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Speaker 6: They've got a million of these guys. It's not going

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Speaker 6: to work. That can't be the final product for this

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Speaker 6: Sun's roster because you're competing this year. It's almost like

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Speaker 6: a tryout. Devin Booker is interviewing you this year. If

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Speaker 6: this year goes well, they're a fringe playoff teams, they

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Speaker 6: show that they've got some fights, maybe three that maybe

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Speaker 6: they're a playoff team. Maybe Devin Booker goes super nova

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Speaker 6: carries them to a sixty. I don't think that's impossible.

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Speaker 6: But you can't roll it out there with these three

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Speaker 6: guys because ultimately Devin Booker is going to see how

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Speaker 6: poorly this skilles and say, listen, I've been loyalty guys

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Speaker 6: to a fall. I think it's time to explore by

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Speaker 6: different options here. So Bradley deal. Maybe I think Jalen

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Speaker 6: Green is here for the long haul.

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Speaker 4: Well, you just led me to something I was going

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Speaker 4: to ask you. Devin Booker, Martin and I have sat

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Speaker 4: up here and talked about kind of just some of

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Speaker 4: the ways the NBA works, And one of the things

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Speaker 4: I've been big on is fans expect somebody. Look, this

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Speaker 4: has been six seven, eight years of me being somewhere.

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Speaker 4: I gave him my all and got you to a

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Speaker 4: finals before, and I just feel like it's a rap.

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Speaker 4: I want to make a clean break all of what

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Speaker 4: maybe potentially could happen with Giannis. If you're Devin Booker

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Speaker 4: and you're seeing this over the last couple of years

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Speaker 4: play out, You went to a finals, you got to

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Speaker 4: taste what that felt like. Where is Devin Booker and

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Speaker 4: on this? Is he saying I'm here, we got to

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Speaker 4: figure this out making work around me? Or is he saying, man,

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to roll and I might be trying to

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Speaker 4: play my cards to get the heck up out of here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this isn't This is a Phoenix Sun's propaganda. I

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Speaker 6: think it would be malpractice for Devin Booker to want

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Speaker 6: to leave this year he's eligible for a two year,

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Speaker 6: seventy five million dollar extension year if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty million dollar year contract as a whole.

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Speaker 6: He's eligible for that this year, and he's going to

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Speaker 6: get whether you argue he's worth it or he's not

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Speaker 6: worth it, whatever, but he's trying to sea And as

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Speaker 6: far as from the future, have to be honest. Man's man.

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Speaker 6: That's not me wishing Devin Booker's year forever. The guy

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Speaker 6: doesn't want to leave. He loves it in Phoenix. He's

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Speaker 6: idolized Kobe Bryant. His ability to stay stay with the

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Speaker 6: team forever. Granted, Kobe Bryant won five championships, which is

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Speaker 6: always why I like to point out field that it's

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Speaker 6: just a little different. But he loves it here. He

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Speaker 6: wants to build something here, and I think Devin Booker

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Speaker 6: understands that winning a championship here in Phoenix, the franchise

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Speaker 6: that has never done it before, might just mean more

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Speaker 6: than potentially, let's say, getting traded the Lakers and doing

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Speaker 6: it with the Lakers who have already won a championship,

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Speaker 6: and you're still going to be behind ten other guys,

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Speaker 6: all right, But.

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Speaker 5: Ben hold on a second, I gotta, I got. I

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Speaker 5: don't mean to cutch off on the tide of prove,

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Speaker 5: but I got. I got asked because I think that

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Speaker 5: right now, I think that there is one player left

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Speaker 5: on the quote unquote market that actually can swing a team,

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Speaker 5: and that guy is Devin Booker. I know Devin Booker

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Speaker 5: doesn't want to leave Phoenix. However, Devin Booker, to my nihilis,

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Speaker 5: does not have no trade clause.

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Speaker 2: I know Kevin.

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Speaker 5: Durant did not want to leave to go to Golden State,

655
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Speaker 5: but Kevin Durant did not have no trade clause. Like

656
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Speaker 5: these guys are why do they have so much?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Like I don't.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Like the Suns seem to me to be in

659
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Speaker 10: a position where they need to be trying to acquire

660
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Speaker 10: capital and turn this thing around Alla, Oklahoma City that

661
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Speaker 10: we just saw when a.

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Speaker 5: Title, like when they moved on from their young guys.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying again, kind of rebuilt. It's

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Speaker 5: the point I'm trying to get to.

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Speaker 6: There's a difference from moving on for Devin Booker and

666
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Speaker 6: there's Kevin Durant. Devin Booker, their Ant's kind of a

667
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Speaker 6: hutch mush handshake agreement that he has given so much

668
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 6: to you over the past decade, do you kind of

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Speaker 6: owe it to him to let him decide his future.

670
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Speaker 6: Now you can argue if that's right or not. Kevin Durant,

671
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 6: you don't know anything. If it's true and the reporting

672
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Speaker 6: is out there that maybe Minnesota offered a little bit more,

673
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 6: or maybe even Cleveland offered a little bit more, it

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Speaker 6: is malpractice and it would be fitting for this Sun's

675
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Speaker 6: organization that has continued to do things wrong. And in

676
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Speaker 6: terms of Kevin Durant giving him what he wants, I.

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Speaker 2: Would just I would agree with you, guys.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how we had this much pool. The

679
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Speaker 6: only way I believe they sent him to Houston that

680
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Speaker 6: would have made sense that if that was the best offer,

681
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Speaker 6: and if that was the best offer for Kevin Durant,

682
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Speaker 6: that is shockingly low and I don't believe that. But listen,

683
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Speaker 6: there's always this superstar pool. Maybe Kevin Durant he does

684
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Speaker 6: get traded to, you know, Toronto, or Kevin Durant got

685
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Speaker 6: upset with me because they joked about him going to

686
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Speaker 6: Lithuania because Lamel La Ball was there, like trading him

687
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Speaker 6: anywhere just to get the right package back to the

688
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Speaker 6: Suns is what they should have done. But Kevin Durant, superstar,

689
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Speaker 6: he could be telling other teams or other star players,

690
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Speaker 6: don't go to Phoenix. That owner is a madman, managed

691
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Speaker 6: feels crazy. So there's the only caveat I could give

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Speaker 6: you with that. Otherwise I agree with you. Do you

693
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Speaker 6: make this much money a year, I'm sorry you're just

694
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Speaker 6: gonna have to go someplace you don't want to play.

695
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Speaker 6: Every normal person doesn't sometimes, so I'd agree with you

696
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Speaker 6: in that respect. But Devin Booker, you're gonna pay him

697
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Speaker 6: more respect to that, more respect than that because of

698
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Speaker 6: what he's done for you in this organze.

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Speaker 2: Listen, we live in LA We've seen it.

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Speaker 4: The Lakers have done that plenty of times where you're like,

701
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Speaker 4: all right, it might be into this, and then they

702
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Speaker 4: say no. Code not the Devin Bookers, Kobe, But I

703
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: mean where you could argue logist logically it makes sense

704
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: to move on, and you say no, he earned it.

705
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Speaker 4: He's a part of our family. This is what it is,

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Speaker 4: all right. We appreciate you. Benjamin, Thank you man, Benjamin.

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Speaker 2: Garcia, Thank you. Ben Garcia's show on X.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you go give him a follow, hit him

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Speaker 4: up on socials there all right, the diagnosis is in.

710
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Speaker 2: Did Halliburton play his cards? Right? Martin? And I will

711
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Speaker 2: tell you it is the Odd Couple? That's right? Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio What the Achilles.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 3: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: So I've said that.

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Speaker 4: I am a firm believer and when you got a shot,

719
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Speaker 4: you gotta go for it, especial surely in this case

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Speaker 4: of Halliburton, Tyre's Halliburton with the injury. We knew he

721
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: had the right calves strain and we didn't know the severity.

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Speaker 4: Could he play? Couldn't he play? I was always to

723
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Speaker 4: the mind you gotta play, man. Game six was when

724
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: we were questioning it because, dude, as you've even mentioned

725
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Speaker 4: we talked about earlier, you never know. You feel like, man,

726
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: I'm young, we had a good team, but you never

727
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Speaker 4: know if you're gonna make it back, and so you

728
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Speaker 4: got a shot to win it, you go for it.

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00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: And we had guests on throughout that week and all

730
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Speaker 4: the ex professional athletes agree that you gotta go for it, man,

731
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Speaker 4: and that their minds are wired differently. That's part of

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Speaker 4: what makes your professional athletes. You're kind of crazy, you're

733
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Speaker 4: kind of psychotic about what you do. So to me,

734
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Speaker 4: I've always felt that was the right thing to do.

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Speaker 4: You go for it, you give it your best. And

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Speaker 4: I know he's hurt now, but dude, you had a shot.

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Speaker 4: You hit a few threes in the first quarter of

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Speaker 4: Game seven NBA Finals. You don't, you don't get injury,

739
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Speaker 4: you mess around to win it. It's a historical moment.

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Speaker 4: You go down in history. Didn't get a chance to

741
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Speaker 4: hear your thoughts on should he have played? Did he

742
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: ruin it now for himself? For the Pacers? Look like

743
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Speaker 4: he's gonna be out all the next season.

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Speaker 5: I mean ruin it for the Pacers, like crime a

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00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 5: River for the team like at that point, Like I mean,

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Speaker 5: obviously I feel for his teammates, and I'm not saying that,

747
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 5: but the idea, like you hear the announcer be like, well,

748
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Speaker 5: if you're Indiana, this one really hurts. No, it really

749
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Speaker 5: hurt Tyree Talliburton as you saw him with his towel

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Speaker 5: over his head, his devastating moment obviously, and one that

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Speaker 5: I think just also true a Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 2: You see the reaction and it's less about the pain and.

753
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Speaker 5: More of the knowledge of I know what just happened, right,

754
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Speaker 5: And it's one of those things that we see, like

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Speaker 5: we see that reaction for those guys because they know

756
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Speaker 5: in that moment they look back, somebody kicked me. There's

757
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Speaker 5: nobody there, And obviously it's a basketball tragedy of sorts.

758
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Speaker 5: But I you have I'm not saying he has to play,

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Speaker 5: I think, but as a person who sits here, who

760
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Speaker 5: has never been a man in the arena, who has

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Speaker 5: never been nobody ever wanted me to play nothing worth it,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like, that's the way I'll arn. You gotta do it.

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Speaker 2: You gotta do it like nobody ever was.

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Speaker 5: Like nobody ever told me I gotta go gut something

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Speaker 5: out or anything of that nature. Now I would have

767
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Speaker 5: been willing to, but nobody ever wanted me to. And

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Speaker 5: that shows you like the ability that I had, and

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Speaker 5: it shows you that obviously there's the reason why I'm

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Speaker 5: doing this and not that. But I cannot fathom being

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Speaker 5: forty eight minutes away or forty eight times to two

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Speaker 5: games away from what I've dreamt about my entire life,

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Speaker 5: and not going full bore as hard as I could,

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Speaker 5: as much as I could. And an achilles tear is

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Speaker 5: something like it is less of a like the calf strain,

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Speaker 5: I should say from what I've heard. And again because

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Speaker 5: when my strain my calf, nobody cares, right, so I

778
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Speaker 5: don't have to know.

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Speaker 2: But like your girl cares, don't do that to her. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so one person cares, right, two people heard tupac right. Anyway,

781
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Speaker 2: nobody else cares. When you're in that spot.

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Speaker 5: I can't imagine not doing everything I could to try

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Speaker 5: to play, not doing everything I could just be out there,

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Speaker 5: And especially after the success that I had in game six,

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Speaker 5: I would have expected to have more in game seven.

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Speaker 2: Part of me wonders if that's what happened.

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Speaker 5: He went out Game six felt good, like was tentative,

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Speaker 5: and it was like his Game seven, I gotta go

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Speaker 5: all the way, go full board.

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Speaker 2: But this is like a hamstring.

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Speaker 5: When you hurt your hamstring, you can't even use the

792
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 5: restroom properly. Like everything, yes, every weird, and your lower

793
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 5: body is hurts and is unavailable.

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Speaker 2: This calf thing.

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Speaker 5: Apparently it's something that it don't get me wrong, it

796
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 5: hurts you, but you can still run, you can still

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00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: and it's a it's just Bill Belichick said it, and

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Speaker 5: I thought it was one of the if I knew

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Speaker 5: what play guys were gonna get hurt on I take

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Speaker 5: him out to play before.

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Speaker 2: But you just don't know, you don't.

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Speaker 4: And then you see what he was doing, right, three

803
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: three three pointers in the first quarter, and he's feeling like, dude,

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Speaker 4: this is about to be one of the most epic

805
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 4: runs nobody saw us coming. Where got the number one team?

806
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 4: You know, back you know, backed against the.

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Speaker 5: Wall and game one, big game, had not had a

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00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 5: big game to that point. Just right, the big shot

809
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Speaker 5: in Game one, and that even that game wasn't great.

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Speaker 4: He just as you mentioned, made that big shot and

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Speaker 4: this can be my moment already off to nine points,

812
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Speaker 4: might mess around and drop a forty piece on them,

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00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: and you know, in a win and a clutch game,

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Speaker 4: seven win. We won two games in a row to

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Speaker 4: finish this thing off. There he was on his way,

816
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 4: but I completely you have to play this thing out.

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00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: I mean this, first of all, it's a short lifespan anyway,

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00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 4: being a professional athlete, and we assume, like we look

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Speaker 4: at Lebron, Miguel Lebron, man, that's great, Chris Paul, you know,

820
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 4: almost twenty year dude. That's those are the abnormal ones. Yes,

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Speaker 4: most guys are. Man, I got a good four to

822
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: six year run, had a good time of pro. Now

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Speaker 4: I'm doing radio somewhere, I'm doing local news somewhere with

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Speaker 4: the city I played for a year or two, or

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00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: I'm a you know, doing some college basketball, or I'm

826
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Speaker 4: just back home now doing whatever. Like That's that's more normal.

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Speaker 4: Not going twenty something years like Lebron, Vince Carter, a

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Speaker 4: long career like Kevin Durant, Steph curR and these guys.

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Speaker 4: That's the more normal thing because you had a nice

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Speaker 4: four three, four year, five year run. So point is,

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Speaker 4: you want to give it all you can and get

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Speaker 4: it absolutely, try to have those magical moments like Tyree Saliburn.

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Speaker 2: Now, I still stand on this.

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Speaker 4: I think the reason why we were seeing all these

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Speaker 4: young guys twenty two, twenty three, twenty four to twenty

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Speaker 4: five went through these catastrophic injuries or never quite being right.

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Speaker 4: I still believe that they're playing too much basketball since

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00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: they were four and five years old. Dude, I have

839
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Speaker 4: for you know, I'm at the age nine kids. It's

840
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 4: insane how much basketball they play at six years old. Mark,

841
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 4: what we didn't You didn't get on the team, so

842
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 4: you were like eight, nine ten. These kids are playing.

843
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 4: And I mean I was coaching my daughter Martin at four.

844
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: It was a four and five year league. Referees scoreboards

845
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: at four and five years old? What are we doing?

846
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Speaker 5: Like I played, I remember playing rec ball growing up,

847
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 5: but like I only played on one AAU team. Right,

848
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: Like to the point, these guys who were really really good,

849
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 5: they're playing and just even in the pro level. Halliburton

850
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 5: played all summer in France. Right, I know he sat

851
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 5: on the bench, but practice you had to play. Yep,

852
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 5: right exactly. But to this point, I have an interesting

853
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 5: take that maybe we should talk about top of next hour.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well I want to hear it, and just to

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Speaker 4: put it while you saved that, Just to put a

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Speaker 4: button on it. Man, I've said this to Rob. I

857
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: think that's why all these top picks, Man, LaMelo, Lonzo Ball,

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Speaker 4: both ball brothers.

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Speaker 2: We know how much they played.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you're looking at Zion play Griffin, Benson's all these

861
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: guys who've come out, and it's been nicked up at

862
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 4: injury for so long. I think that has something to

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Speaker 4: do with it. Fox Sports Radio Time might have been

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Speaker 4: a diet