Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to beat your happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm and I'm Serena and.
Speaker 1: We are here with the Bachelor himself, Grant ls Grant Welcome.
Speaker 3: What's going on? How you guys doing this afternoon?
Speaker 2: We're doing great?
Speaker 1: How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, man, I'm doing great. Had a busy
Speaker 3: day getting ready to head out soon for a flight,
Speaker 3: so I'm happy to talk to you all.
Speaker 2: Where are you flying to?
Speaker 3: Going to New York. We're doing a little which is
Speaker 3: granted promo, so that's gonna be really fun.
Speaker 1: Nice. You were out here for the premiere? Correct?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? Correct? We saw him, we're with him,
Speaker 2: he was like, incorrectly.
Speaker 1: I'm just straight off the script. You were What did
Speaker 1: you do for the premiere?
Speaker 3: No? Outing with you guys had a lot of fun too.
Speaker 3: It was a good time.
Speaker 2: It was How was that? How did you feel now
Speaker 2: kind of looking back on that night?
Speaker 3: Uh, it's surreal, you know, it happened so fast. But
Speaker 3: you know, I really appreciate a little party and like
Speaker 3: being able to watch at a nice watch party. It
Speaker 3: definitely changes the atmosphere a lot. It's fun, it's a lot,
Speaker 3: it's a lot cool. It's a lot. It's it's more fun.
Speaker 1: Is it what you expected?
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, you know, it's what I expected, you know,
Speaker 3: but it's always different watching it live. It's always different.
Speaker 2: That is actually very true. Yeah, well, it was fun
Speaker 2: to be there. It was also fun to have Charity
Speaker 2: there because she was just watching you. I was sitting
Speaker 2: next to her and she was looking at you just
Speaker 2: being like, God, I know exactly how he's feeling right now,
Speaker 2: having done this before.
Speaker 3: Too, so right, it was good having her there, somebody
Speaker 3: who's who's done it before and watched himself back. It's
Speaker 3: definitely it's different when you're like the lead. It's oh man,
Speaker 3: it's a lot more. It's a lot more cringe. There's
Speaker 3: some there's a lot more cringe going on when you're doing.
Speaker 2: It's a lot more cringe. No, it was great.
Speaker 1: Let's jump to your Night one. How are you feeling
Speaker 1: going into Night one? How did you prepare for that night?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Night one always nerve wracking. It's always a nervous time.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just told myself, I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: be myself and whatever whoever the person I am is
Speaker 3: gonna show through on screen. And I feel like it
Speaker 3: did that, and I feel like the ladies really made
Speaker 3: it easier for me because they were They were a
Speaker 3: lot of fun too.
Speaker 2: Were there any entrances that stood out to you, even
Speaker 2: if it wasn't like a love connection, but like a
Speaker 2: gimmick or something that you really remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Alex is right, and then Ridika's she had
Speaker 3: she had met them a little dance. Uh, Juliana stood out.
Speaker 3: There were a lot, There were a lot of entrance
Speaker 3: that really stood out. Sarah Pheni stood out because she
Speaker 3: had the poster of the big Head, So about that
Speaker 3: stood out. I like the girl's sense of humor.
Speaker 1: What did you think about the T shirt?
Speaker 3: Gun?
Speaker 1: How did that come come across?
Speaker 3: That was a little forward, but it was definitely it
Speaker 3: definitely came across like somebody who was intentional. And I'm
Speaker 3: just happy nobody got hit because that couldn't be me too.
Speaker 2: I've actually been thinking about that as I see clips
Speaker 2: of that entrance come up, I'm like, I feel like
Speaker 2: this was not enough of a concern that, like, imagine
Speaker 2: this just took out one of the girls like they
Speaker 2: got you. Guys got so lucky that you didn't absolutely
Speaker 2: whack someone with a T.
Speaker 3: Shirt it was a safety hazard. I've been to some
Speaker 3: like NBA games where they shot the guns off and
Speaker 3: like they hit they those things, those things hit.
Speaker 2: Pretty hard, So yeah, they're meant to go really farm.
Speaker 2: Grant's like, oh, so that was that paperwork I signed
Speaker 2: before Zoe commenabalm exactly.
Speaker 3: That exactly, That's what that was right there?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you at all surprised watching it back
Speaker 1: kind of seeing Zoe involved in a lot of the
Speaker 1: drama with the girls, Is that something that or were
Speaker 1: you kind of privy to that when it was going on.
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised, you know. I definitely
Speaker 3: I definitely had an inclination of that behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: But I think that Zoe is somebody who you know,
Speaker 3: she's misunderstood some at a certain points. And I think
Speaker 3: this the journey for me was a lot about pushing
Speaker 3: these women and opening up and me finding my person.
Speaker 3: And in the process of that, you know, it caused
Speaker 3: you to especially when you start to care for people,
Speaker 3: it causes you to try to push people to do better,
Speaker 3: to be to be different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you set any intentions or boundaries with yourself
Speaker 2: when it came to drama with the ladies, if that
Speaker 2: was going to kind of be like an immediate red flag,
Speaker 2: or did you go into it with any like if
Speaker 2: this happens, I'm going to do this or were you
Speaker 2: kind of just being fluid and taking every situation as
Speaker 2: it came.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really a drama guy, Like I really
Speaker 3: like to shy away from that or not shy away
Speaker 3: from that. But I avoid conflict at all costs, you know,
Speaker 3: and conflict for me is a final resort. But sometimes
Speaker 3: you have to stand up for yourself. You definitely have
Speaker 3: to stand up for yourself. And I think the approach
Speaker 3: I took was if somebody was starting the drama, but
Speaker 3: if somebody was involved and they were defending themselves, then
Speaker 3: you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. So
Speaker 3: I think the hard part is just figuring out what's
Speaker 3: going on behind the scenes. When you're not you don't
Speaker 3: see everything.
Speaker 2: So is that something that you wanted to know, Like,
Speaker 2: were you hoping to gather as much information about was
Speaker 2: going on in the house as possible or were you
Speaker 2: like I think I'd rather say, like ignorant to that
Speaker 2: and just deal with what's in front of me.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna ask, like, how much effort
Speaker 1: were you putting into like figuring out what was going on.
Speaker 3: I think that the group dates give the most clues
Speaker 3: on who started the drama because you could tell when
Speaker 3: the other women don't like somebody, and you know, it
Speaker 3: could be because I just don't like them. But if
Speaker 3: there's a if there's a consensus in the house and
Speaker 3: most of you know it's leaning towards one way, you
Speaker 3: can start to gather evidence. But you always have to
Speaker 3: give somebody the benefit of the doubt. So I tried
Speaker 3: to do that as much as possible with the little
Speaker 3: amount of time I had. But yeah, I mean that
Speaker 3: that was kind of my goal. I kind of used
Speaker 3: the group dates to see, okay, like this just how
Speaker 3: they're acting, and how is this person acting in the
Speaker 3: group setting? Are they comfortable people? Are they a likable person?
Speaker 3: You know? I try to figure that out, And yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's that's basically.
Speaker 1: It are you are you with somebody not being able
Speaker 1: to get along in group settings, but also like you
Speaker 1: get along with that person, like Zoe for instance, Like
Speaker 1: you're getting along with her great and it seems like
Speaker 1: you guys both really like each other she doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: get along with the other girls in group settings. Is
Speaker 1: that an issue for you?
Speaker 3: I mean, I would like to consider myself a pretty
Speaker 3: likable guy, you know, especially if I got a couple
Speaker 3: of drinks going. I'm like, I like, you know, I
Speaker 3: like to be the life of the party, like to
Speaker 3: have fun. So if my partner, you know, and they
Speaker 3: walk in, they're like, oh, there's Grant, there's somebody else,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't really I would kind of ruin the mood.
Speaker 3: But there's always the people that don't like you, So
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what you do. So you just got
Speaker 3: to find a common ground. If it's like, if it's
Speaker 3: something that reoccurs a lot, and like, okay, why people
Speaker 3: not like this person? There might be a reason. But
Speaker 3: if some some people are just not gonna like you
Speaker 3: for breathing, So you got to just figure out the balance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zoe did come in hot on that first group
Speaker 2: date by pulling you all the way up to the rooftop.
Speaker 2: Did that catch you off guard?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, definitely caught me off guard. You know,
Speaker 3: being in the position as a lead, I think that
Speaker 3: it's wrong to like stop somebody from stealing. I've never
Speaker 3: seen anybody do that before, so I think that's part
Speaker 3: of part of the game, you know, and it gets
Speaker 3: you more time. There's a way you do it, there's
Speaker 3: a way you don't do it, but it called guard
Speaker 3: I remember when I was on Gen season, I tried
Speaker 3: to avoid doing that, but being the lead, I gave
Speaker 3: everybody a chance to like show me who they were,
Speaker 3: and that was just a part of the process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've had a couple of hard like I don't
Speaker 2: want to call them hard tests, but like you've had
Speaker 2: a couple You've had to navigate a lot early on
Speaker 2: with the women and kind of these different personalities and
Speaker 2: all their various approaches to the relationship with you and
Speaker 2: the dynamic in the house. And so far you're doing
Speaker 2: a really good job.
Speaker 3: Well we'll see, we'll see, because it gets it definitely
Speaker 3: definitely gets hard, especially when, like you know, there's everybody's
Speaker 3: trying to go on your attention or have your attention,
Speaker 3: and there's still do some things that normally, maybe in
Speaker 3: the in the normal world, you'll be like, oh, maybe
Speaker 3: just relax, but in this setting, it's like you kind
Speaker 3: of have to see where everybody lies. So it's not
Speaker 3: everything goes, but you have to let a lot of
Speaker 3: things play out, you know, and and it causes it
Speaker 3: may be it make it a little sticky sometimes.
Speaker 1: This was this was the first time we've seen where
Speaker 1: the person that gets the first impression rows also gets
Speaker 1: the first one on one. And we see you give
Speaker 1: that to Alex. Just kind of like, did that way
Speaker 1: hey heavier on you knowing that this was also the
Speaker 1: person that would get the first one on one And
Speaker 1: why did you choose Alex?
Speaker 3: M It didn't. It didn't weigh any heavier on me
Speaker 3: because because I, you know, I know that there's a
Speaker 3: certain amount of one on ones that go into the season.
Speaker 3: I know it's important, but I kind of was just
Speaker 3: taking it one day at a time, you know. I
Speaker 3: wasn't thinking about how I wasn't thinking about the severity
Speaker 3: of the one on I was just trying to build
Speaker 3: a connection and have fun. So I wasn't thinking about
Speaker 3: it like that. And Alex got the first impression. But
Speaker 3: we just we had fun, you know, we had you know,
Speaker 3: there's the start of a relationship. Sometimes you have that
Speaker 3: sense of humor. Now from there it has to grow,
Speaker 3: but the initial foundation could be that. And I saw
Speaker 3: that there, and I think that she was somebody that
Speaker 3: I got along with.
Speaker 1: We will nice. Let's talk a little bit about the
Speaker 1: group date where you and Carolina are dancing on stage.
Speaker 1: That's that's episode two, right, Yes, that's episode two, because
Speaker 1: then that kind of leads into some of the drama
Speaker 1: that went down episode three with Carolina and Rose. But
Speaker 1: just I don't know, touch on on your relationship at
Speaker 1: this point with Carolina, because we do see she eventually
Speaker 1: ends up getting a one on one date as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my relationship with Carolyn at that point. You know,
Speaker 3: I really liked our first interaction. I really liked Carolina's
Speaker 3: personality and obviously she's a very pretty woman, she's beautiful.
Speaker 3: But I liked her personality and I liked our banter.
Speaker 3: You know, she didn't take things too seriously, and yeah,
Speaker 3: that led to you know, especially on the group day
Speaker 3: with Mario, I liked the way she kind of held
Speaker 3: her own she hasked some rhythm, you know, she was
Speaker 3: able to she had fun with it, and I like
Speaker 3: that and it was really something that I felt like
Speaker 3: she matched my energy. So that's why, you know, it
Speaker 3: led to us dancing on stage and her Yeah, and
Speaker 3: that group, meet me giving her the price for that group.
Speaker 3: This would be I don't know, a dance on stage.
Speaker 1: And when how do you feel? You know, it's one
Speaker 1: thing to make out with a girl with just the cameras,
Speaker 1: but like when you're making out with somebody and then
Speaker 1: the rest of the women that are also trying to
Speaker 1: date you are kind of standing there. How does that feel?
Speaker 3: I think that you know went for it, and I
Speaker 3: went for it as well. You know, I think that
Speaker 3: was something that it was a little It was a
Speaker 3: little different when there's people watching, but being in that moment,
Speaker 3: you kind of you're kind of in the moment and
Speaker 3: things happen, you know, So I understand it was a
Speaker 3: little bit awkward for the other ladies, but you know,
Speaker 3: that was the moment that we had and that's the
Speaker 3: way that things went all right.
Speaker 1: So then I got to ask you, were you thinking
Speaker 1: about Rose in that moment?
Speaker 3: No, that's the thing. I think there was a there
Speaker 3: was a big miscommunication there. And you know, I would
Speaker 3: never tell somebody that I was thinking about them while
Speaker 3: I was with somebody else, you know, especially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't strike me, It doesn't seem like you
Speaker 1: would do that. I just don't see you like, that's
Speaker 1: like a uh, that would be a like a massive
Speaker 1: error at the beginning of your season. So you don't
Speaker 1: strike me as a person that would do that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and if we ran the tape back of
Speaker 2: that conversation between you and Rose, is there anything you
Speaker 2: can think of of, like I was saying this and
Speaker 2: maybe she interpreted it like this, any like pin ability
Speaker 2: to pinpoint where the confusion stemmed from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I could pinpoint exact where
Speaker 3: it stemmed from. And you know, going into that afternoon setting,
Speaker 3: you know, I had just been on stage and I
Speaker 3: went in there and things were awkward, were awkward, So
Speaker 3: I was trying to really reassure the woman that I
Speaker 3: noticed them.
Speaker 2: And do you feel that when you went to the
Speaker 2: night portion that things were off?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it. I definitely felt it, Like I
Speaker 3: definitely felt the eyeballs in the room, and you know,
Speaker 3: I really wanted to figure out what's going on. But
Speaker 3: I could pinpoint I think that. You know, we had
Speaker 3: several times we danced. You know, we danced in the
Speaker 3: beginning with the lady from the Pussycat Dolls. We were
Speaker 3: all on stage and when Rose was there, she was
Speaker 3: right next to me, and she somebody had my eyes on.
Speaker 3: But when I was dancing with Carolyne, I was fully
Speaker 3: present in that moment. So somewhere through the Grape mind
Speaker 3: things got misconstrued. And yeah, at that point I kind
Speaker 3: of had to defend myself a little bit because I
Speaker 3: tried to come into this journey to be really intentional
Speaker 3: with my words and with what I said, and when
Speaker 3: I did make mistakes, I owned them. So when, you know,
Speaker 3: when that happened, I kind of was really taken back
Speaker 3: by it, and you know, I had to really defend
Speaker 3: myself because I know that's something I wouldn't say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sounds like your messaging to Rose was
Speaker 2: more alonglines of like, when I was dancing with you,
Speaker 2: I was thinking of you, and when I was dancing
Speaker 2: with Caroline, I was thinking of her, and like, your
Speaker 2: intention is to be present with the woman that is
Speaker 2: in front of you, right, and.
Speaker 3: That that I noticed, Rose, you know, and even prior
Speaker 3: to that, when we were practicing our dances, like I
Speaker 3: noticed her, you know. But when I gave the the
Speaker 3: quote unquote prize to Carolina, I was there with her.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just wanted to kind of let let
Speaker 3: the woman know that I was focusing on each one
Speaker 3: of them individually, and I think there was a little
Speaker 3: bit of I don't know if there was, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what got in the way there,
Speaker 3: but that was definitely a message that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to put across you. You decided to
Speaker 1: give Rose your last Rose of the evening? Why did
Speaker 1: you keep her around and not let her go after
Speaker 1: that situation?
Speaker 3: Just because I think everybody deserves a chance, you know,
Speaker 3: even though I was really hurt by the situation, I
Speaker 3: felt like, you know, people were questioning my character. I
Speaker 3: feel like she at least deserved a chance to stay around.
Speaker 3: And maybe she maybe she really didn't hear what I said,
Speaker 3: or maybe she really misunderstood what I said.
Speaker 1: She did own what happened. She did own it too.
Speaker 3: It's like she owned it. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: if I made a mistake, I would own it. And
Speaker 3: I think that during the you know, I kind of
Speaker 3: took responsibility even though I did I knew I wasn't
Speaker 3: and wrong. I kind of took responsibility for that and said,
Speaker 3: you know, I got to watch what I say because
Speaker 3: it's easy. It's really difficult, you know, when you're dating
Speaker 3: multiple people. It's my first time doing it. People you know,
Speaker 3: feelings are gonna get they're gonna things are gonna be
Speaker 3: a little sticky. So you know, there's a little bit
Speaker 3: of grace there and I just feeling she deserved another chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Rose obviously made a mistake here, no doubt about it,
Speaker 2: and I think it's great that you were able to
Speaker 2: kind of show forgiveness. Do you think that you can
Speaker 2: really trust her moving forward? Like, do you think that
Speaker 2: trust can be rebuilt? And does it make you kind
Speaker 2: of nervous moving forward about how your words could be
Speaker 2: twisted by Rose or other women in the house. Again,
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 3: Say that, you know, after something like that happens, you're
Speaker 3: a lot more reserved on what you say because any
Speaker 3: little thing that you say can get twisted, not intentionally,
Speaker 3: just that's the way things when there's feelings involved. That's
Speaker 3: the way that things happen. I assume, And everybody's different,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's really hard to rebuild a relationship
Speaker 3: and the short amount of time that you have when
Speaker 3: when something happens, it's really hard. And it's not like you're
Speaker 3: working on just building relationship with one person, so that's
Speaker 3: even less time. So yeah, you know, I will say
Speaker 3: that we really try, and I think that Rose is sweet,
Speaker 3: she's amazing, and I think that, you know, we just
Speaker 3: have to see how everything happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's pretty early on, but you do
Speaker 1: give Beverly a one on one date and then it
Speaker 1: never happens, she gets sick and goes home. Does that
Speaker 1: throw you off at all? Because it's early, but you
Speaker 1: had to at least like her a little bit to
Speaker 1: choose her for a one on one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something that definitely threw me off some. You know,
Speaker 3: Beverly was a connection that was forming, and you realize
Speaker 3: how fragile, you know, the the journey is, and you know,
Speaker 3: relationships in itself are fragile until you build up a
Speaker 3: lot of trust. But this one little thing, somebody getting
Speaker 3: sick or a word said or something, it could just
Speaker 3: it could just twist the whole way things could have went.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: Something that was really disappointing. But you know, I'm glad
Speaker 3: that she was better because it was something that that
Speaker 3: could have really affected her. And I just focused on
Speaker 3: the ladies that.
Speaker 2: Were left did they tell you what happened? Like, did
Speaker 2: they tell you, Hey, she's having her appendix removed in
Speaker 2: an emergency? Secure?
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's something that she needs to
Speaker 3: she handled, because she needs to handle you know. I
Speaker 3: wasn't like, oh, man, why did she hear? That would
Speaker 3: have been she definitely needed to get that taken care of.
Speaker 2: There's no option, you know, either either she gets to
Speaker 2: take care of her you know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an emergency for sure.
Speaker 1: So then you end up you choose three women for
Speaker 1: a group date, which you know kind of makes it
Speaker 1: seem like those those three women are.
Speaker 2: On your radar. Yeah, we see Litia, Sarafina, and Dina.
Speaker 2: How did you make the selection of the three of
Speaker 2: them go on the day portion and then Litia getting
Speaker 2: the night portion?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I just went on based off of who I
Speaker 3: thought would be best in that setting. You know, I
Speaker 3: wanted to see because Dina is very type A. I
Speaker 3: wanted to see how she would to act around the dogs.
Speaker 3: Saraphina had a really bubbly personality. I wanted to get
Speaker 3: to know her better, and Latia and I had just
Speaker 3: formed a connection, so I wanted to see if we
Speaker 3: could further that and see how she would act around
Speaker 3: you know, animals, because you know that's something that's that's
Speaker 3: a step you know below kids. So you know, I
Speaker 3: think that that would that would have been a good setting.
Speaker 3: And then you know, I picked Lutia just because of
Speaker 3: the way she was and our connection at that point
Speaker 3: it was it was further ahead.
Speaker 2: Was it awkward at all?
Speaker 1: I was?
Speaker 2: We were saying, I think this is like the smallest
Speaker 2: group date we've ever seen it being only three people.
Speaker 2: Was it uncomfortable at times? Or were you guys able
Speaker 2: to navigate it where it felt kind of fun?
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be easier.
Speaker 2: It looked really comfortable.
Speaker 3: It's a lot easier because like.
Speaker 2: Really, okay, yeah, I guess I'm just mentally comparing it
Speaker 2: to a two on one, which always is really uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: But I guess there's not that pressure of like one
Speaker 2: stage and two go right.
Speaker 3: There's not that pressure. And then when there's seven or
Speaker 3: six women, it's like you don't want to keep eye
Speaker 3: contact here for too long because somebody when there's three,
Speaker 3: you could kind of divide your time and say, Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe I'm going to spend some time here or spends
Speaker 3: the time there. Seven is just a lot.
Speaker 2: You know, right, And I guess the competitive energy is
Speaker 2: lower because they're like, well, we're all going to get times,
Speaker 2: you know. If he's off washing the dogs with Dina,
Speaker 2: no Biggie all have my time in a little.
Speaker 3: Bit exactly exactly, you know. And I think that that's
Speaker 3: the vibe that that was there. You know that it
Speaker 3: wasn't too competitive, but it was good to where we
Speaker 3: all we all got along and then the dog's help,
Speaker 3: you know, the dogs didn't hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just finished week three. How has it been
Speaker 2: deciding who is getting sent home every week? I know
Speaker 2: it gets harder every single week, but are you still
Speaker 2: kind of at the point where you're like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's clear. Are we struggling? What's that like?
Speaker 3: Listen? It was a struggle for me every week, honestly,
Speaker 3: even you saw like, I'm an impact, so I feel
Speaker 3: for people and sometimes it leads me to make decisions
Speaker 3: based upon them how other people feel. So even the
Speaker 3: first Row ceremonies, second Roll seminary, when I saw Ello crime, like,
Speaker 3: I felt bad, felt really bad, and you know, but
Speaker 3: it's something that it has to be done. So I
Speaker 3: just tried to keep in my mind, you know, this
Speaker 3: is for I'm trying to find my person, and this
Speaker 3: is the way it goes, you know. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: may may have been a little naive, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like be just because you know, I know
Speaker 3: that this is what needs to be done, but I
Speaker 3: felt I felt bad about it, and and it becomes harder.
Speaker 3: It only becomes harder.
Speaker 1: We see stepping a little bit outside the show. We
Speaker 1: see that you release a song.
Speaker 2: On Spotify, party Girls.
Speaker 1: Which I feel like, I feel like the audience may
Speaker 1: have a mixed reaction to. A. The song is called
Speaker 1: party Girls, and B there is a lot of stigma
Speaker 1: around people that do go on this show and music Is.
Speaker 1: I feel like music Is that is the one instance
Speaker 1: where everyone's like, oh, they're just here for their music career.
Speaker 1: How would you respond to all that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's you know, I think that it's
Speaker 3: possible to you know, look for love and have interests.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe the timing wasn't the best, you know,
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, night one is like a party.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's just my vibe, you know, somebody
Speaker 3: just likes to have fun, I'm creative and that's just me.
Speaker 3: So it's not like I'm there for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 3: I think people throw that around so much. I think
Speaker 3: you could have both. You know, if you like to paint,
Speaker 3: you could be on the show and paint. If you
Speaker 3: like to do karaoke.
Speaker 1: You know, I just is something part of who you are.
Speaker 3: You know, I went on the show and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm on stage with Mario. I think that's
Speaker 3: something that is you know. I think music is something
Speaker 3: that's really fun. I'm not saying I'm going to be
Speaker 3: doing that, but I feel like it's. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: just something I had fun with and maybe maybe I
Speaker 3: could have worked on the timing a little.
Speaker 2: I like what you said that you can be looking
Speaker 2: for love and have passion and interest that you're pursuing
Speaker 2: at the same time. Are you pursuing a music career?
Speaker 2: Is that a goal or intention of yours?
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's not a goal or intention of
Speaker 3: mine at all. You know, I think that I'm really
Speaker 3: happy with a lot of people work. I do like karaoke,
Speaker 3: and you know, getting in the studio and making a song.
Speaker 3: If I think that it's you know, I always like
Speaker 3: to push myself or test myself, whether it's like boxing
Speaker 3: or or even in trading, or you know, just certain
Speaker 3: artists you're playing piano or trying to learn a new
Speaker 3: language or learning an instrument. I think it's something I
Speaker 3: always try to do. So I'm not pursuing a music career.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be dropping singles. But I think
Speaker 3: that the song fit the night. And I thought it was, like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's a big party, so I just I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, it would have been really good. The song
Speaker 3: was terrible. I thought I would have got ringed out,
Speaker 3: but I thought it was okay, you know, but I
Speaker 3: won't you know, you guys don't have to worry about
Speaker 3: me dropping and no more singles. Regret, no more singles.
Speaker 3: I won't be driving any more single.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're threep. We're three episodes in what then
Speaker 1: you're obviously watching it back. What has been the most
Speaker 1: surprising element of the show or anything that's happened to
Speaker 1: you so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of things. Obviously, not that I
Speaker 3: was surprised, but I was really happy with how great
Speaker 3: the ladies were. And then two, you know, watching it
Speaker 3: back and seeing everything that happens that you don't see,
Speaker 3: and there's such a short amount of time you have
Speaker 3: to make the decisions that you have to make, and
Speaker 3: they and they and they're so judged and they're weighed upon.
Speaker 3: So yeah, just seeing just seeing the dynamic that was
Speaker 3: happening in the house when I wasn't there. And I
Speaker 3: think that, you know, the thoughts that I were having
Speaker 3: about the ladies, I think that they're they're unfolding. I
Speaker 3: think everybody is is the way that they were were.
Speaker 1: Okay, So there's no like woman that you're like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm shocked to see you act like this.
Speaker 3: No, No, there's there's none that I was that I'm
Speaker 3: shocked with. You know. Uh, there's none that I'm shocked with.
Speaker 3: And I think everybody stayed true to themselves.
Speaker 2: That's good. That's got to be a good feeling. I
Speaker 2: feel like that's not that's not always the case.
Speaker 3: This season's not over yet, so we.
Speaker 2: Got that's true. There's still a lot to come.
Speaker 1: I mean, so far, so far, the drama that has
Speaker 1: been brought to your attention. We mentioned in our in
Speaker 1: our recap that I mean, I feel like I would
Speaker 1: handle it the same way you're handling it. I think
Speaker 1: you're doing a really good job of just kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, hitting it on the head right away, like
Speaker 1: what's going on. Are you happy about that approach and
Speaker 1: do you kind of carry that on for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, something, especially in my life, I confront things
Speaker 3: like right then and there because if you don't, you
Speaker 3: live festers and the terms in something way bigger. I
Speaker 3: was really I tried to go in there and do
Speaker 3: the best I could to not be a part of
Speaker 3: any drama, but it just so happened the drama involved
Speaker 3: me and are something that I you know, that somebody
Speaker 3: thought I said. So that was really surprising to me.
Speaker 3: That was like a curve ball and that was probably
Speaker 3: like my worst nightmare happening, and it happened. So I
Speaker 3: had to like approach. I had to approach it right
Speaker 3: then and there because if I just ignored it, then it,
Speaker 3: you know, the ladies would have really started to question
Speaker 3: my character, and that's the last thing I wanted because
Speaker 3: I proud myself on that. So just that was something
Speaker 3: to me that was a difficult situation, but I handled
Speaker 3: it the best way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you something that Joe and
Speaker 2: I were talking about during our recap because in this episode,
Speaker 2: we see you navigate a situation with where Zoe comes
Speaker 2: to you and kind of says, hey, there's some stuff
Speaker 2: going on in the house, but she doesn't give any names.
Speaker 2: And then on the flip side, we see Carolina come
Speaker 2: to you and talk about what Rose said and like
Speaker 2: you kind of have to pry it out of her.
Speaker 2: You have to give a couple guesses, but you eventually
Speaker 2: get there. What is your preference, like we were we
Speaker 2: were like, what's the right way to do this? Like
Speaker 2: do you tell the lead who said what? Do you
Speaker 2: give names? Do you not give names?
Speaker 1: In my opinion, if you're gonna if you're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: then do it all the way. Like if you're gonna
Speaker 1: come to you with with information, then I want all
Speaker 1: of the information.
Speaker 2: But we're also coming from a viewer's perspective, right, like
Speaker 2: we haven't been in your shoes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's a that's actually a really good question.
Speaker 3: I feel like, typically in my life, if somebody said something,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna approach the person specifically. But since I'm like
Speaker 3: the buffer, but the lead is the buffer in between,
Speaker 3: I think if you're gonna come and say that, then
Speaker 3: you can't leave them like, well, so this and this
Speaker 3: said this and just figure it out. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's you know, maybe you could. But then again, on
Speaker 3: the flip side of play Devil's Advocate, it's like it's
Speaker 3: a little messy if you're like so and so said
Speaker 3: this and I don't want you, so it's that's like
Speaker 3: a really delicate situation.
Speaker 2: Is because when girls come to you and say like, hey,
Speaker 2: this is going on, I must I feel like we
Speaker 2: see it. And even if you're not saying it in
Speaker 2: your head, your first question is probably like, well, who,
Speaker 2: like who did that? Who said that? But then at
Speaker 2: the same time, when you have the information of who
Speaker 2: it gets you, you kind of have to get involved.
Speaker 2: Now you have a sense of like accountability of the situation.
Speaker 3: I think the best way to go about it, like
Speaker 3: if I could rewind the clock, it will be somebody
Speaker 3: comes to me said, there's something happening in the house.
Speaker 3: I'm uncomfortable with the situation. I'm just letting you know,
Speaker 3: And then it would be up to me to to
Speaker 3: to sit all the ladies down and approach it. Listen,
Speaker 3: there's some things happening. That's my first thing. And then
Speaker 3: if it continues to happen, then you tell.
Speaker 1: Me who it was.
Speaker 3: But the first, the first action would be she tells me,
Speaker 3: doesn't tell me any names, and then it will be
Speaker 3: up for me to sit everybody down and to say, okay,
Speaker 3: like there's some there's something going on. Can somebody tell
Speaker 3: me who it is? You know, I would like to
Speaker 3: know what's going on, and then that way they could
Speaker 3: tell me, and then if they don't tell me, it continues,
Speaker 3: and I know it's it's that's the best.
Speaker 2: It's giving grant. It's giving principal grant of the Boucher Academy.
Speaker 1: I mean, were you expected going in that you were
Speaker 1: going to have to kind of like be mediating a
Speaker 1: lot of situations between different women.
Speaker 3: I was so naive going in. I'm like, we're all
Speaker 3: gonna have fun and I'm going to get to know
Speaker 3: these women, and I'm going to try to if there's
Speaker 3: a situation. I didn't expect that, Like, I knew there
Speaker 3: was gonna be something, but I didn't I didn't think
Speaker 3: that it would involve something something I said or something
Speaker 3: that they thought I said. I didn't think that that
Speaker 3: was like, that was like a three sixty flip the
Speaker 3: switch on me because I didn't I didn't know. I
Speaker 3: didn't know. And then it really dampered a lot of
Speaker 3: my relationships in the house because people start.
Speaker 2: To question, yeah, we know, know how this drama has
Speaker 2: affected your relationship with Rose obviously, how did it affect
Speaker 2: your relationship with Carolina?
Speaker 3: It affected my relationship ship with Rose and Carolina because
Speaker 3: at that point I was like, why is why are
Speaker 3: you guys talking about things that are being said behind
Speaker 3: my back, you know, or like behind it, you know,
Speaker 3: to each other. It's like, get it just I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say, you know, for me, I wouldn't have handled
Speaker 3: that may that's all. And then I wouldn't have handled
Speaker 3: it that way. And I need somebody that's gonna handle
Speaker 3: the situation the way I, you know, see things similar
Speaker 3: to me. So it definitely was a red It definitely
Speaker 3: let off some some alarms there, but then I still
Speaker 3: needed to process it and figured out what I was
Speaker 3: going to do because it could have just been miscommunication.
Speaker 3: You know, there's always that aspect.
Speaker 1: Did Joey the the Last Bachelor, give you any advice
Speaker 1: going in?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Not going in? He gave me a you know,
Speaker 3: there's a He gave me some good advice, which was just,
Speaker 3: you know, you have to stay true to yourself, and
Speaker 3: you know you're the person that you're with is going
Speaker 3: to be watching it back one day, so just move
Speaker 3: with respect. And you know, I definitely did that. My
Speaker 3: season is that it was definitely a lot different than
Speaker 3: his season, you know, in terms of the drama. So
Speaker 3: I had to try to figure out how to navigate
Speaker 3: that myself, you know, So that was something that was difficult.
Speaker 2: So watching it back, what have been some of your
Speaker 2: favorite moments to either relive or see for the first time.
Speaker 3: Uh, just just my personality, you know, I love to
Speaker 3: have fun. I thought the R and B date was
Speaker 3: It was definitely was cringey, but I had fun. I
Speaker 3: thought it was really fun. I thought the basketball date
Speaker 3: was really fun seeing seeing the ladies do something that
Speaker 3: they typically don't do and just put themselves out there.
Speaker 3: It showed me who really wanted to be there, and
Speaker 3: I think they all did.
Speaker 1: I view were to put money on it, Who's if
Speaker 1: you were in a bet again for any of the
Speaker 1: women playing basketball, Who's the best player?
Speaker 3: The great question? Honestly, Chloe was the best Chloe. Chloe.
Speaker 3: She she is, Yeah, she's tall. She has a really
Speaker 3: good layup package. You know, she was doing left hand
Speaker 3: right hand, so.
Speaker 2: She's gotta Chloe. Okay, before we let you go, what
Speaker 2: episode were you most excited to watch back between one,
Speaker 2: two and three?
Speaker 3: One? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah?
Speaker 3: One. You know that's iconic.
Speaker 2: Night one so iconic and also just light, like you
Speaker 2: can really enjoy. I feel like.
Speaker 3: Everything that's the night where there's no no stress, Like
Speaker 3: it's one, there's no expect well, there's expectations, but there's
Speaker 3: no nothing before that happens, so you just to do.
Speaker 2: It's magic. Joe and I love Night one episodes. If
Speaker 2: you could describe your season in one word, what would
Speaker 2: it be?
Speaker 3: Roller coaster?
Speaker 2: And I feel like there's been a tone here of
Speaker 2: like there's a lot to come, so I'm bracing myself.
Speaker 2: But the last question is is there anything you can
Speaker 2: tease for us for next week's episode, which will be
Speaker 2: episode number four?
Speaker 3: Next week's episode, Oh yeah, next week's episode, Episode four
Speaker 3: is definitely Uh, it's gonna involve a really beautiful location
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be it's gonna be romantic, and you know,
Speaker 3: hopefully you know, the drama dies down, it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a roller coaster. It's gonna be a really cool Grant.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much for taking time out
Speaker 1: of your busy schedule and hopping on Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have a safe light to New York. Thanks for
Speaker 2: making the time and stay tuned for more episodes of
Speaker 2: Grant season of the Bachelor, and be sure to tune
Speaker 2: into our exclusive recaps and interviews on Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, Bye
Speaker 1: Bye, Thanks for having me back.