WEBVTT - Grant Gets Real 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:03.280 Hey, everyone, welcome back to beat your happy Hour. 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:04.880 I'm and I'm Serena and. 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:09.400 We are here with the Bachelor himself, Grant ls Grant Welcome. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:12.959 What's going on? How you guys doing this afternoon? 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:14.120 We're doing great? 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:15.280 How you doing? 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.200 I'm doing great, man, I'm doing great. Had a busy 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.320 day getting ready to head out soon for a flight, 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:21.720 so I'm happy to talk to you all. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:22.639 Where are you flying to? 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.160 Going to New York. We're doing a little which is 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.280 granted promo, so that's gonna be really fun. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.560 Nice. You were out here for the premiere? Correct? 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.600 What do you mean? Correct? We saw him, we're with him, 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.879 he was like, incorrectly. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.040 I'm just straight off the script. You were What did 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:42.920 you do for the premiere? 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.519 No? Outing with you guys had a lot of fun too. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:46.240 It was a good time. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.120 It was How was that? How did you feel now 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.640 kind of looking back on that night? 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.240 Uh, it's surreal, you know, it happened so fast. But 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.400 you know, I really appreciate a little party and like 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.000 being able to watch at a nice watch party. It 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.240 definitely changes the atmosphere a lot. It's fun, it's a lot, 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.600 it's a lot cool. It's a lot. It's it's more fun. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:08.440 Is it what you expected? 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.520 Yeah, honestly, you know, it's what I expected, you know, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.840 but it's always different watching it live. It's always different. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.880 That is actually very true. Yeah, well, it was fun 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.920 to be there. It was also fun to have Charity 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.040 there because she was just watching you. I was sitting 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:26.440 next to her and she was looking at you just 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:30.479 being like, God, I know exactly how he's feeling right now, 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:31.880 having done this before. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.720 Too, so right, it was good having her there, somebody 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.080 who's who's done it before and watched himself back. It's 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.080 definitely it's different when you're like the lead. It's oh man, 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.880 it's a lot more. It's a lot more cringe. There's 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.440 some there's a lot more cringe going on when you're doing. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.240 It's a lot more cringe. No, it was great. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:51.800 Let's jump to your Night one. How are you feeling 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.160 going into Night one? How did you prepare for that night? 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:01.360 Yeah? Night one always nerve wracking. It's always a nervous time. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.880 But you know, I just told myself, I'm just gonna 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.000 be myself and whatever whoever the person I am is 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.160 gonna show through on screen. And I feel like it 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.880 did that, and I feel like the ladies really made 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.560 it easier for me because they were They were a 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:15.320 lot of fun too. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.720 Were there any entrances that stood out to you, even 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.280 if it wasn't like a love connection, but like a 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.560 gimmick or something that you really remember. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.679 Yeah, definitely, Alex is right, and then Ridika's she had 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:33.080 she had met them a little dance. Uh, Juliana stood out. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:35.760 There were a lot, There were a lot of entrance 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.560 that really stood out. Sarah Pheni stood out because she 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.160 had the poster of the big Head, So about that 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.080 stood out. I like the girl's sense of humor. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:44.840 What did you think about the T shirt? 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:45.040 Gun? 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.679 How did that come come across? 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.160 That was a little forward, but it was definitely it 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.520 definitely came across like somebody who was intentional. And I'm 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.880 just happy nobody got hit because that couldn't be me too. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.680 I've actually been thinking about that as I see clips 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.600 of that entrance come up, I'm like, I feel like 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.280 this was not enough of a concern that, like, imagine 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.240 this just took out one of the girls like they 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.720 got you. Guys got so lucky that you didn't absolutely 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:09.720 whack someone with a T. 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.560 Shirt it was a safety hazard. I've been to some 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.920 like NBA games where they shot the guns off and 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.200 like they hit they those things, those things hit. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.680 Pretty hard, So yeah, they're meant to go really farm. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.560 Grant's like, oh, so that was that paperwork I signed 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.680 before Zoe commenabalm exactly. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.600 That exactly, That's what that was right there? 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.839 Are you? Are you at all surprised watching it back 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.640 kind of seeing Zoe involved in a lot of the 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.600 drama with the girls, Is that something that or were 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.320 you kind of privy to that when it was going on. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.000 I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised, you know. I definitely 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.240 I definitely had an inclination of that behind the scenes. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.600 But I think that Zoe is somebody who you know, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.680 she's misunderstood some at a certain points. And I think 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.880 this the journey for me was a lot about pushing 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.240 these women and opening up and me finding my person. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.960 And in the process of that, you know, it caused 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.680 you to especially when you start to care for people, 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.320 it causes you to try to push people to do better, 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:07.520 to be to be different. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.240 Yeah, did you set any intentions or boundaries with yourself 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.960 when it came to drama with the ladies, if that 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:20.120 was going to kind of be like an immediate red flag, 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.120 or did you go into it with any like if 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.640 this happens, I'm going to do this or were you 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.440 kind of just being fluid and taking every situation as 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:27.800 it came. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.840 Yeah, I'm not really a drama guy, Like I really 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.000 like to shy away from that or not shy away 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.560 from that. But I avoid conflict at all costs, you know, 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.520 and conflict for me is a final resort. But sometimes 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.599 you have to stand up for yourself. You definitely have 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.840 to stand up for yourself. And I think the approach 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.719 I took was if somebody was starting the drama, but 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.240 if somebody was involved and they were defending themselves, then 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:52.919 you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. So 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.560 I think the hard part is just figuring out what's 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.760 going on behind the scenes. When you're not you don't 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:58.280 see everything. 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.680 So is that something that you wanted to know, Like, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.680 were you hoping to gather as much information about was 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.560 going on in the house as possible or were you 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.640 like I think I'd rather say, like ignorant to that 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.680 and just deal with what's in front of me. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.400 That's what I was gonna ask, like, how much effort 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.120 were you putting into like figuring out what was going on. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.520 I think that the group dates give the most clues 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.680 on who started the drama because you could tell when 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.840 the other women don't like somebody, and you know, it 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:27.720 could be because I just don't like them. But if 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.800 there's a if there's a consensus in the house and 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.080 most of you know it's leaning towards one way, you 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.880 can start to gather evidence. But you always have to 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.880 give somebody the benefit of the doubt. So I tried 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.599 to do that as much as possible with the little 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.600 amount of time I had. But yeah, I mean that 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.200 that was kind of my goal. I kind of used 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.320 the group dates to see, okay, like this just how 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.120 they're acting, and how is this person acting in the 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.960 group setting? Are they comfortable people? Are they a likable person? 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.880 You know? I try to figure that out, And yeah, 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:58.880 that's that's that's basically. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:04.160 It are you are you with somebody not being able 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.279 to get along in group settings, but also like you 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.080 get along with that person, like Zoe for instance, Like 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.800 you're getting along with her great and it seems like 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.440 you guys both really like each other she doesn't necessarily 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.680 get along with the other girls in group settings. Is 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.040 that an issue for you? 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.520 I mean, I would like to consider myself a pretty 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.599 likable guy, you know, especially if I got a couple 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.640 of drinks going. I'm like, I like, you know, I 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.440 like to be the life of the party, like to 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.040 have fun. So if my partner, you know, and they 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.800 walk in, they're like, oh, there's Grant, there's somebody else, 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.080 I wouldn't really I would kind of ruin the mood. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.680 But there's always the people that don't like you, So 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.240 it doesn't matter what you do. So you just got 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.160 to find a common ground. If it's like, if it's 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.560 something that reoccurs a lot, and like, okay, why people 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.640 not like this person? There might be a reason. But 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.359 if some some people are just not gonna like you 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.080 for breathing, So you got to just figure out the balance. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.680 Yeah, Zoe did come in hot on that first group 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.720 date by pulling you all the way up to the rooftop. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.320 Did that catch you off guard? 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.640 I mean, yeah, definitely caught me off guard. You know, 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.120 being in the position as a lead, I think that 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.800 it's wrong to like stop somebody from stealing. I've never 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.680 seen anybody do that before, so I think that's part 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.400 of part of the game, you know, and it gets 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.280 you more time. There's a way you do it, there's 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.440 a way you don't do it, but it called guard 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.120 I remember when I was on Gen season, I tried 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:29.320 to avoid doing that, but being the lead, I gave 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.280 everybody a chance to like show me who they were, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.680 and that was just a part of the process. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.680 Yeah, you've had a couple of hard like I don't 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.600 want to call them hard tests, but like you've had 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.520 a couple You've had to navigate a lot early on 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.200 with the women and kind of these different personalities and 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.320 all their various approaches to the relationship with you and 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.080 the dynamic in the house. And so far you're doing 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:51.840 a really good job. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.680 Well we'll see, we'll see, because it gets it definitely 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.600 definitely gets hard, especially when, like you know, there's everybody's 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:02.480 trying to go on your attention or have your attention, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.040 and there's still do some things that normally, maybe in 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.160 the in the normal world, you'll be like, oh, maybe 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.800 just relax, but in this setting, it's like you kind 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.640 of have to see where everybody lies. So it's not 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:14.560 everything goes, but you have to let a lot of 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:18.040 things play out, you know, and and it causes it 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.000 may be it make it a little sticky sometimes. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.400 This was this was the first time we've seen where 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.960 the person that gets the first impression rows also gets 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.040 the first one on one. And we see you give 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:35.400 that to Alex. Just kind of like, did that way 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.640 hey heavier on you knowing that this was also the 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.200 person that would get the first one on one And 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:41.640 why did you choose Alex? 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.280 M It didn't. It didn't weigh any heavier on me 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.319 because because I, you know, I know that there's a 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.240 certain amount of one on ones that go into the season. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:53.920 I know it's important, but I kind of was just 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:55.439 taking it one day at a time, you know. I 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.560 wasn't thinking about how I wasn't thinking about the severity 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.000 of the one on I was just trying to build 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.120 a connection and have fun. So I wasn't thinking about 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.719 it like that. And Alex got the first impression. But 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.679 we just we had fun, you know, we had you know, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.200 there's the start of a relationship. Sometimes you have that 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.240 sense of humor. Now from there it has to grow, 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.120 but the initial foundation could be that. And I saw 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.720 that there, and I think that she was somebody that 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.400 I got along with. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:35.160 We will nice. Let's talk a little bit about the 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:40.600 group date where you and Carolina are dancing on stage. 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:45.600 That's that's episode two, right, Yes, that's episode two, because 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.240 then that kind of leads into some of the drama 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.400 that went down episode three with Carolina and Rose. But 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.440 just I don't know, touch on on your relationship at 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.160 this point with Carolina, because we do see she eventually 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.120 ends up getting a one on one date as well. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.400 Yeah, my relationship with Carolyn at that point. You know, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.760 I really liked our first interaction. I really liked Carolina's 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.800 personality and obviously she's a very pretty woman, she's beautiful. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.800 But I liked her personality and I liked our banter. 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.800 You know, she didn't take things too seriously, and yeah, 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.760 that led to you know, especially on the group day 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.240 with Mario, I liked the way she kind of held 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.480 her own she hasked some rhythm, you know, she was 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.480 able to she had fun with it, and I like 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.120 that and it was really something that I felt like 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.160 she matched my energy. So that's why, you know, it 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:35.400 led to us dancing on stage and her Yeah, and 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.840 that group, meet me giving her the price for that group. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.000 This would be I don't know, a dance on stage. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.680 And when how do you feel? You know, it's one 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.720 thing to make out with a girl with just the cameras, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.480 but like when you're making out with somebody and then 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.599 the rest of the women that are also trying to 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.720 date you are kind of standing there. How does that feel? 0:10:55.840 --> 0:11:01.000 I think that you know went for it, and I 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:02.800 went for it as well. You know, I think that 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.480 was something that it was a little It was a 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.800 little different when there's people watching, but being in that moment, 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:09.600 you kind of you're kind of in the moment and 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.400 things happen, you know, So I understand it was a 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.160 little bit awkward for the other ladies, but you know, 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.120 that was the moment that we had and that's the 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:18.360 way that things went all right. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.440 So then I got to ask you, were you thinking 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.360 about Rose in that moment? 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.959 No, that's the thing. I think there was a there 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.439 was a big miscommunication there. And you know, I would 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.800 never tell somebody that I was thinking about them while 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.160 I was with somebody else, you know, especially. 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.160 Yeah, you don't strike me, It doesn't seem like you 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.360 would do that. I just don't see you like, that's 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.360 like a uh, that would be a like a massive 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:48.080 error at the beginning of your season. So you don't 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:49.880 strike me as a person that would do that. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:54.120 But yeah, and if we ran the tape back of 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.120 that conversation between you and Rose, is there anything you 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.679 can think of of, like I was saying this and 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:05.200 maybe she interpreted it like this, any like pin ability 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.199 to pinpoint where the confusion stemmed from. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.440 Yeah, I think I think I could pinpoint exact where 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.320 it stemmed from. And you know, going into that afternoon setting, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.440 you know, I had just been on stage and I 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.520 went in there and things were awkward, were awkward, So 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.360 I was trying to really reassure the woman that I 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:22.000 noticed them. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.040 And do you feel that when you went to the 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:25.240 night portion that things were off? 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:25.520 Oh? 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.880 Yeah, it was it. I definitely felt it, Like I 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.640 definitely felt the eyeballs in the room, and you know, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.360 I really wanted to figure out what's going on. But 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.520 I could pinpoint I think that. You know, we had 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.680 several times we danced. You know, we danced in the 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.560 beginning with the lady from the Pussycat Dolls. We were 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.040 all on stage and when Rose was there, she was 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.440 right next to me, and she somebody had my eyes on. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.160 But when I was dancing with Carolyne, I was fully 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.240 present in that moment. So somewhere through the Grape mind 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:57.199 things got misconstrued. And yeah, at that point I kind 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.560 of had to defend myself a little bit because I 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.440 tried to come into this journey to be really intentional 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.120 with my words and with what I said, and when 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:09.200 I did make mistakes, I owned them. So when, you know, 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.040 when that happened, I kind of was really taken back 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.000 by it, and you know, I had to really defend 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.600 myself because I know that's something I wouldn't say. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.360 Yeah, so it sounds like your messaging to Rose was 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.560 more alonglines of like, when I was dancing with you, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.600 I was thinking of you, and when I was dancing 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.360 with Caroline, I was thinking of her, and like, your 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.319 intention is to be present with the woman that is 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.199 in front of you, right, and. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.000 That that I noticed, Rose, you know, and even prior 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:34.880 to that, when we were practicing our dances, like I 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.960 noticed her, you know. But when I gave the the 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.800 quote unquote prize to Carolina, I was there with her. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.439 So yeah, I just wanted to kind of let let 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.439 the woman know that I was focusing on each one 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.880 of them individually, and I think there was a little 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.800 bit of I don't know if there was, I don't know, 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.880 you know, I don't know what got in the way there, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.240 but that was definitely a message that. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.880 I wasn't trying to put across you. You decided to 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:05.120 give Rose your last Rose of the evening? Why did 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.120 you keep her around and not let her go after 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:08.200 that situation? 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.560 Just because I think everybody deserves a chance, you know, 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.480 even though I was really hurt by the situation, I 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.400 felt like, you know, people were questioning my character. I 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.640 feel like she at least deserved a chance to stay around. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.400 And maybe she maybe she really didn't hear what I said, 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.360 or maybe she really misunderstood what I said. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.440 She did own what happened. She did own it too. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.920 It's like she owned it. And I think that, you know, 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.880 if I made a mistake, I would own it. And 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.600 I think that during the you know, I kind of 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.480 took responsibility even though I did I knew I wasn't 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.920 and wrong. I kind of took responsibility for that and said, 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.880 you know, I got to watch what I say because 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.360 it's easy. It's really difficult, you know, when you're dating 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.240 multiple people. It's my first time doing it. People you know, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.080 feelings are gonna get they're gonna things are gonna be 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.440 a little sticky. So you know, there's a little bit 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.960 of grace there and I just feeling she deserved another chance. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.880 Yeah. Rose obviously made a mistake here, no doubt about it, 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.160 and I think it's great that you were able to 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.400 kind of show forgiveness. Do you think that you can 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.160 really trust her moving forward? Like, do you think that 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:22.000 trust can be rebuilt? And does it make you kind 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.240 of nervous moving forward about how your words could be 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.480 twisted by Rose or other women in the house. Again, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:30.880 I will. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.080 Say that, you know, after something like that happens, you're 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.760 a lot more reserved on what you say because any 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.640 little thing that you say can get twisted, not intentionally, 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.760 just that's the way things when there's feelings involved. That's 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.960 the way that things happen. I assume, And everybody's different, 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.920 and you know, it's really hard to rebuild a relationship 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.040 and the short amount of time that you have when 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.800 when something happens, it's really hard. And it's not like you're 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.760 working on just building relationship with one person, so that's 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.880 even less time. So yeah, you know, I will say 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:03.320 that we really try, and I think that Rose is sweet, 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.320 she's amazing, and I think that, you know, we just 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.720 have to see how everything happens. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:12.360 Yeah, I know it's pretty early on, but you do 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:17.400 give Beverly a one on one date and then it 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.680 never happens, she gets sick and goes home. Does that 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.360 throw you off at all? Because it's early, but you 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.880 had to at least like her a little bit to 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.160 choose her for a one on one. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.760 Yeah, that's something that definitely threw me off some. You know, 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.040 Beverly was a connection that was forming, and you realize 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.880 how fragile, you know, the the journey is, and you know, 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.640 relationships in itself are fragile until you build up a 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.480 lot of trust. But this one little thing, somebody getting 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.560 sick or a word said or something, it could just 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.880 it could just twist the whole way things could have went. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.040 So yeah, yeah, it was. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.960 Something that was really disappointing. But you know, I'm glad 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.120 that she was better because it was something that that 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.640 could have really affected her. And I just focused on 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:01.520 the ladies that. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.840 Were left did they tell you what happened? Like, did 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.520 they tell you, Hey, she's having her appendix removed in 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:08.439 an emergency? Secure? 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.720 I was like, yeah, that's something that she needs to 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.800 she handled, because she needs to handle you know. I 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.120 wasn't like, oh, man, why did she hear? That would 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.000 have been she definitely needed to get that taken care of. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.840 There's no option, you know, either either she gets to 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.679 take care of her you know that. 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.639 Yeah, that was an emergency for sure. 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.600 So then you end up you choose three women for 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:36.480 a group date, which you know kind of makes it 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.159 seem like those those three women are. 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:43.879 On your radar. Yeah, we see Litia, Sarafina, and Dina. 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.119 How did you make the selection of the three of 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.520 them go on the day portion and then Litia getting 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:51.200 the night portion? 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.800 Yeah? I just went on based off of who I 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.600 thought would be best in that setting. You know, I 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.800 wanted to see because Dina is very type A. I 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.680 wanted to see how she would to act around the dogs. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.239 Saraphina had a really bubbly personality. I wanted to get 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.240 to know her better, and Latia and I had just 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.240 formed a connection, so I wanted to see if we 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.679 could further that and see how she would act around 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.600 you know, animals, because you know that's something that's that's 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.960 a step you know below kids. So you know, I 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.719 think that that would that would have been a good setting. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.040 And then you know, I picked Lutia just because of 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.720 the way she was and our connection at that point 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.840 it was it was further ahead. 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:29.159 Was it awkward at all? 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:29.439 I was? 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.120 We were saying, I think this is like the smallest 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.959 group date we've ever seen it being only three people. 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.520 Was it uncomfortable at times? Or were you guys able 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.080