1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to beat your happy Hour. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm and I'm Serena and. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: We are here with the Bachelor himself, Grant ls Grant Welcome. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 3: What's going on? How you guys doing this afternoon? 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: We're doing great? 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: How you doing? 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: I'm doing great, man, I'm doing great. Had a busy 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: day getting ready to head out soon for a flight, 9 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: so I'm happy to talk to you all. 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: Where are you flying to? 11 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: Going to New York. We're doing a little which is 12 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: granted promo, so that's gonna be really fun. 13 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Nice. You were out here for the premiere? Correct? 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: What do you mean? Correct? We saw him, we're with him, 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: he was like, incorrectly. 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm just straight off the script. You were What did 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: you do for the premiere? 18 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: No? Outing with you guys had a lot of fun too. 19 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: It was a good time. 20 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: It was How was that? How did you feel now 21 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: kind of looking back on that night? 22 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: Uh, it's surreal, you know, it happened so fast. But 23 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: you know, I really appreciate a little party and like 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: being able to watch at a nice watch party. It 25 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: definitely changes the atmosphere a lot. It's fun, it's a lot, 26 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: it's a lot cool. It's a lot. It's it's more fun. 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Is it what you expected? 28 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, you know, it's what I expected, you know, 29 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: but it's always different watching it live. It's always different. 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: That is actually very true. Yeah, well, it was fun 31 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: to be there. It was also fun to have Charity 32 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: there because she was just watching you. I was sitting 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: next to her and she was looking at you just 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: being like, God, I know exactly how he's feeling right now, 35 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: having done this before. 36 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: Too, so right, it was good having her there, somebody 37 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: who's who's done it before and watched himself back. It's 38 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: definitely it's different when you're like the lead. It's oh man, 39 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: it's a lot more. It's a lot more cringe. There's 40 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: some there's a lot more cringe going on when you're doing. 41 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: It's a lot more cringe. No, it was great. 42 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: Let's jump to your Night one. How are you feeling 43 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: going into Night one? How did you prepare for that night? 44 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? Night one always nerve wracking. It's always a nervous time. 45 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: But you know, I just told myself, I'm just gonna 46 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: be myself and whatever whoever the person I am is 47 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: gonna show through on screen. And I feel like it 48 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: did that, and I feel like the ladies really made 49 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: it easier for me because they were They were a 50 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: lot of fun too. 51 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: Were there any entrances that stood out to you, even 52 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: if it wasn't like a love connection, but like a 53 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: gimmick or something that you really remember. 54 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Alex is right, and then Ridika's she had 55 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: she had met them a little dance. Uh, Juliana stood out. 56 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: There were a lot, There were a lot of entrance 57 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: that really stood out. Sarah Pheni stood out because she 58 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: had the poster of the big Head, So about that 59 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: stood out. I like the girl's sense of humor. 60 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: What did you think about the T shirt? 61 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Gun? 62 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: How did that come come across? 63 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: That was a little forward, but it was definitely it 64 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: definitely came across like somebody who was intentional. And I'm 65 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: just happy nobody got hit because that couldn't be me too. 66 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: I've actually been thinking about that as I see clips 67 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: of that entrance come up, I'm like, I feel like 68 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: this was not enough of a concern that, like, imagine 69 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: this just took out one of the girls like they 70 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: got you. Guys got so lucky that you didn't absolutely 71 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: whack someone with a T. 72 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: Shirt it was a safety hazard. I've been to some 73 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: like NBA games where they shot the guns off and 74 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: like they hit they those things, those things hit. 75 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: Pretty hard, So yeah, they're meant to go really farm. 76 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: Grant's like, oh, so that was that paperwork I signed 77 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: before Zoe commenabalm exactly. 78 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: That exactly, That's what that was right there? 79 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you at all surprised watching it back 80 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of seeing Zoe involved in a lot of the 81 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: drama with the girls, Is that something that or were 82 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: you kind of privy to that when it was going on. 83 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised, you know. I definitely 84 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: I definitely had an inclination of that behind the scenes. 85 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: But I think that Zoe is somebody who you know, 86 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: she's misunderstood some at a certain points. And I think 87 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: this the journey for me was a lot about pushing 88 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: these women and opening up and me finding my person. 89 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: And in the process of that, you know, it caused 90 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: you to especially when you start to care for people, 91 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: it causes you to try to push people to do better, 92 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: to be to be different. 93 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you set any intentions or boundaries with yourself 94 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: when it came to drama with the ladies, if that 95 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: was going to kind of be like an immediate red flag, 96 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: or did you go into it with any like if 97 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: this happens, I'm going to do this or were you 98 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: kind of just being fluid and taking every situation as 99 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: it came. 100 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really a drama guy, Like I really 101 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: like to shy away from that or not shy away 102 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: from that. But I avoid conflict at all costs, you know, 103 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: and conflict for me is a final resort. But sometimes 104 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: you have to stand up for yourself. You definitely have 105 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: to stand up for yourself. And I think the approach 106 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: I took was if somebody was starting the drama, but 107 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: if somebody was involved and they were defending themselves, then 108 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. So 109 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: I think the hard part is just figuring out what's 110 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: going on behind the scenes. When you're not you don't 111 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: see everything. 112 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: So is that something that you wanted to know, Like, 113 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: were you hoping to gather as much information about was 114 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: going on in the house as possible or were you 115 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: like I think I'd rather say, like ignorant to that 116 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: and just deal with what's in front of me. 117 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna ask, like, how much effort 118 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: were you putting into like figuring out what was going on. 119 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: I think that the group dates give the most clues 120 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: on who started the drama because you could tell when 121 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: the other women don't like somebody, and you know, it 122 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 3: could be because I just don't like them. But if 123 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: there's a if there's a consensus in the house and 124 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: most of you know it's leaning towards one way, you 125 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: can start to gather evidence. But you always have to 126 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: give somebody the benefit of the doubt. So I tried 127 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 3: to do that as much as possible with the little 128 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: amount of time I had. But yeah, I mean that 129 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: that was kind of my goal. I kind of used 130 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: the group dates to see, okay, like this just how 131 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: they're acting, and how is this person acting in the 132 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: group setting? Are they comfortable people? Are they a likable person? 133 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: You know? I try to figure that out, And yeah, 134 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: that's that's that's basically. 135 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: It are you are you with somebody not being able 136 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: to get along in group settings, but also like you 137 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: get along with that person, like Zoe for instance, Like 138 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: you're getting along with her great and it seems like 139 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: you guys both really like each other she doesn't necessarily 140 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: get along with the other girls in group settings. Is 141 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: that an issue for you? 142 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I would like to consider myself a pretty 143 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: likable guy, you know, especially if I got a couple 144 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: of drinks going. I'm like, I like, you know, I 145 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: like to be the life of the party, like to 146 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: have fun. So if my partner, you know, and they 147 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: walk in, they're like, oh, there's Grant, there's somebody else, 148 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: I wouldn't really I would kind of ruin the mood. 149 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: But there's always the people that don't like you, So 150 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what you do. So you just got 151 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: to find a common ground. If it's like, if it's 152 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: something that reoccurs a lot, and like, okay, why people 153 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: not like this person? There might be a reason. But 154 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: if some some people are just not gonna like you 155 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: for breathing, So you got to just figure out the balance. 156 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zoe did come in hot on that first group 157 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: date by pulling you all the way up to the rooftop. 158 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: Did that catch you off guard? 159 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, definitely caught me off guard. You know, 160 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: being in the position as a lead, I think that 161 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: it's wrong to like stop somebody from stealing. I've never 162 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: seen anybody do that before, so I think that's part 163 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: of part of the game, you know, and it gets 164 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: you more time. There's a way you do it, there's 165 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: a way you don't do it, but it called guard 166 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: I remember when I was on Gen season, I tried 167 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: to avoid doing that, but being the lead, I gave 168 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: everybody a chance to like show me who they were, 169 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: and that was just a part of the process. 170 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've had a couple of hard like I don't 171 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: want to call them hard tests, but like you've had 172 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: a couple You've had to navigate a lot early on 173 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: with the women and kind of these different personalities and 174 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: all their various approaches to the relationship with you and 175 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: the dynamic in the house. And so far you're doing 176 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: a really good job. 177 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: Well we'll see, we'll see, because it gets it definitely 178 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: definitely gets hard, especially when, like you know, there's everybody's 179 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: trying to go on your attention or have your attention, 180 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: and there's still do some things that normally, maybe in 181 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: the in the normal world, you'll be like, oh, maybe 182 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: just relax, but in this setting, it's like you kind 183 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: of have to see where everybody lies. So it's not 184 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: everything goes, but you have to let a lot of 185 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: things play out, you know, and and it causes it 186 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: may be it make it a little sticky sometimes. 187 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: This was this was the first time we've seen where 188 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: the person that gets the first impression rows also gets 189 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: the first one on one. And we see you give 190 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: that to Alex. Just kind of like, did that way 191 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: hey heavier on you knowing that this was also the 192 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: person that would get the first one on one And 193 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: why did you choose Alex? 194 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: M It didn't. It didn't weigh any heavier on me 195 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 3: because because I, you know, I know that there's a 196 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: certain amount of one on ones that go into the season. 197 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: I know it's important, but I kind of was just 198 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 3: taking it one day at a time, you know. I 199 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: wasn't thinking about how I wasn't thinking about the severity 200 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: of the one on I was just trying to build 201 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: a connection and have fun. So I wasn't thinking about 202 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 3: it like that. And Alex got the first impression. But 203 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: we just we had fun, you know, we had you know, 204 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: there's the start of a relationship. Sometimes you have that 205 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: sense of humor. Now from there it has to grow, 206 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: but the initial foundation could be that. And I saw 207 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: that there, and I think that she was somebody that 208 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: I got along with. 209 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: We will nice. Let's talk a little bit about the 210 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: group date where you and Carolina are dancing on stage. 211 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: That's that's episode two, right, Yes, that's episode two, because 212 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: then that kind of leads into some of the drama 213 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: that went down episode three with Carolina and Rose. But 214 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: just I don't know, touch on on your relationship at 215 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: this point with Carolina, because we do see she eventually 216 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: ends up getting a one on one date as well. 217 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, my relationship with Carolyn at that point. You know, 218 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: I really liked our first interaction. I really liked Carolina's 219 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: personality and obviously she's a very pretty woman, she's beautiful. 220 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: But I liked her personality and I liked our banter. 221 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: You know, she didn't take things too seriously, and yeah, 222 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: that led to you know, especially on the group day 223 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: with Mario, I liked the way she kind of held 224 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: her own she hasked some rhythm, you know, she was 225 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: able to she had fun with it, and I like 226 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: that and it was really something that I felt like 227 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: she matched my energy. So that's why, you know, it 228 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: led to us dancing on stage and her Yeah, and 229 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 3: that group, meet me giving her the price for that group. 230 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: This would be I don't know, a dance on stage. 231 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: And when how do you feel? You know, it's one 232 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: thing to make out with a girl with just the cameras, 233 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: but like when you're making out with somebody and then 234 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 1: the rest of the women that are also trying to 235 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: date you are kind of standing there. How does that feel? 236 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: I think that you know went for it, and I 237 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: went for it as well. You know, I think that 238 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: was something that it was a little It was a 239 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: little different when there's people watching, but being in that moment, 240 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: you kind of you're kind of in the moment and 241 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: things happen, you know, So I understand it was a 242 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: little bit awkward for the other ladies, but you know, 243 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: that was the moment that we had and that's the 244 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: way that things went all right. 245 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: So then I got to ask you, were you thinking 246 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: about Rose in that moment? 247 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: No, that's the thing. I think there was a there 248 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: was a big miscommunication there. And you know, I would 249 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: never tell somebody that I was thinking about them while 250 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: I was with somebody else, you know, especially. 251 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't strike me, It doesn't seem like you 252 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: would do that. I just don't see you like, that's 253 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: like a uh, that would be a like a massive 254 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: error at the beginning of your season. So you don't 255 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: strike me as a person that would do that. 256 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, and if we ran the tape back of 257 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: that conversation between you and Rose, is there anything you 258 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: can think of of, like I was saying this and 259 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: maybe she interpreted it like this, any like pin ability 260 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: to pinpoint where the confusion stemmed from. 261 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I could pinpoint exact where 262 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: it stemmed from. And you know, going into that afternoon setting, 263 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: you know, I had just been on stage and I 264 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: went in there and things were awkward, were awkward, So 265 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: I was trying to really reassure the woman that I 266 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: noticed them. 267 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: And do you feel that when you went to the 268 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: night portion that things were off? 269 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: Oh? 270 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it. I definitely felt it, Like I 271 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: definitely felt the eyeballs in the room, and you know, 272 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: I really wanted to figure out what's going on. But 273 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: I could pinpoint I think that. You know, we had 274 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: several times we danced. You know, we danced in the 275 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: beginning with the lady from the Pussycat Dolls. We were 276 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: all on stage and when Rose was there, she was 277 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: right next to me, and she somebody had my eyes on. 278 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: But when I was dancing with Carolyne, I was fully 279 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: present in that moment. So somewhere through the Grape mind 280 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 3: things got misconstrued. And yeah, at that point I kind 281 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 3: of had to defend myself a little bit because I 282 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: tried to come into this journey to be really intentional 283 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: with my words and with what I said, and when 284 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: I did make mistakes, I owned them. So when, you know, 285 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: when that happened, I kind of was really taken back 286 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: by it, and you know, I had to really defend 287 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: myself because I know that's something I wouldn't say. 288 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sounds like your messaging to Rose was 289 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: more alonglines of like, when I was dancing with you, 290 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: I was thinking of you, and when I was dancing 291 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: with Caroline, I was thinking of her, and like, your 292 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: intention is to be present with the woman that is 293 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: in front of you, right, and. 294 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: That that I noticed, Rose, you know, and even prior 295 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: to that, when we were practicing our dances, like I 296 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: noticed her, you know. But when I gave the the 297 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: quote unquote prize to Carolina, I was there with her. 298 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 3: So yeah, I just wanted to kind of let let 299 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 3: the woman know that I was focusing on each one 300 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: of them individually, and I think there was a little 301 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: bit of I don't know if there was, I don't know, 302 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what got in the way there, 303 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: but that was definitely a message that. 304 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to put across you. You decided to 305 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: give Rose your last Rose of the evening? Why did 306 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: you keep her around and not let her go after 307 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: that situation? 308 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: Just because I think everybody deserves a chance, you know, 309 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: even though I was really hurt by the situation, I 310 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: felt like, you know, people were questioning my character. I 311 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: feel like she at least deserved a chance to stay around. 312 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: And maybe she maybe she really didn't hear what I said, 313 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: or maybe she really misunderstood what I said. 314 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: She did own what happened. She did own it too. 315 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: It's like she owned it. And I think that, you know, 316 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: if I made a mistake, I would own it. And 317 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: I think that during the you know, I kind of 318 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: took responsibility even though I did I knew I wasn't 319 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: and wrong. I kind of took responsibility for that and said, 320 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: you know, I got to watch what I say because 321 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: it's easy. It's really difficult, you know, when you're dating 322 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: multiple people. It's my first time doing it. People you know, 323 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: feelings are gonna get they're gonna things are gonna be 324 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: a little sticky. So you know, there's a little bit 325 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: of grace there and I just feeling she deserved another chance. 326 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Rose obviously made a mistake here, no doubt about it, 327 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: and I think it's great that you were able to 328 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: kind of show forgiveness. Do you think that you can 329 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: really trust her moving forward? Like, do you think that 330 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: trust can be rebuilt? And does it make you kind 331 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: of nervous moving forward about how your words could be 332 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: twisted by Rose or other women in the house. Again, 333 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: I will. 334 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: Say that, you know, after something like that happens, you're 335 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: a lot more reserved on what you say because any 336 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: little thing that you say can get twisted, not intentionally, 337 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: just that's the way things when there's feelings involved. That's 338 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: the way that things happen. I assume, And everybody's different, 339 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: and you know, it's really hard to rebuild a relationship 340 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: and the short amount of time that you have when 341 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: when something happens, it's really hard. And it's not like you're 342 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: working on just building relationship with one person, so that's 343 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: even less time. So yeah, you know, I will say 344 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: that we really try, and I think that Rose is sweet, 345 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: she's amazing, and I think that, you know, we just 346 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: have to see how everything happens. 347 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's pretty early on, but you do 348 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: give Beverly a one on one date and then it 349 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: never happens, she gets sick and goes home. Does that 350 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: throw you off at all? Because it's early, but you 351 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: had to at least like her a little bit to 352 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: choose her for a one on one. 353 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something that definitely threw me off some. You know, 354 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: Beverly was a connection that was forming, and you realize 355 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: how fragile, you know, the the journey is, and you know, 356 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: relationships in itself are fragile until you build up a 357 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: lot of trust. But this one little thing, somebody getting 358 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: sick or a word said or something, it could just 359 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: it could just twist the whole way things could have went. 360 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it was. 361 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: Something that was really disappointing. But you know, I'm glad 362 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: that she was better because it was something that that 363 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: could have really affected her. And I just focused on 364 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: the ladies that. 365 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: Were left did they tell you what happened? Like, did 366 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: they tell you, Hey, she's having her appendix removed in 367 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: an emergency? Secure? 368 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's something that she needs to 369 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: she handled, because she needs to handle you know. I 370 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: wasn't like, oh, man, why did she hear? That would 371 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: have been she definitely needed to get that taken care of. 372 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: There's no option, you know, either either she gets to 373 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: take care of her you know that. 374 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an emergency for sure. 375 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: So then you end up you choose three women for 376 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: a group date, which you know kind of makes it 377 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: seem like those those three women are. 378 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: On your radar. Yeah, we see Litia, Sarafina, and Dina. 379 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: How did you make the selection of the three of 380 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: them go on the day portion and then Litia getting 381 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: the night portion? 382 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? I just went on based off of who I 383 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: thought would be best in that setting. You know, I 384 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: wanted to see because Dina is very type A. I 385 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: wanted to see how she would to act around the dogs. 386 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 3: Saraphina had a really bubbly personality. I wanted to get 387 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: to know her better, and Latia and I had just 388 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: formed a connection, so I wanted to see if we 389 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 3: could further that and see how she would act around 390 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: you know, animals, because you know that's something that's that's 391 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 3: a step you know below kids. So you know, I 392 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 3: think that that would that would have been a good setting. 393 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: And then you know, I picked Lutia just because of 394 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: the way she was and our connection at that point 395 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: it was it was further ahead. 396 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: Was it awkward at all? 397 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: I was? 398 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: We were saying, I think this is like the smallest 399 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 2: group date we've ever seen it being only three people. 400 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: Was it uncomfortable at times? Or were you guys able 401 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: to navigate it where it felt kind of fun? 402 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: I feel like that would be easier. 403 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: It looked really comfortable. 404 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: It's a lot easier because like. 405 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: Really, okay, yeah, I guess I'm just mentally comparing it 406 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: to a two on one, which always is really uncomfortable. 407 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: But I guess there's not that pressure of like one 408 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: stage and two go right. 409 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: There's not that pressure. And then when there's seven or 410 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: six women, it's like you don't want to keep eye 411 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: contact here for too long because somebody when there's three, 412 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: you could kind of divide your time and say, Okay, 413 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 3: maybe I'm going to spend some time here or spends 414 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: the time there. Seven is just a lot. 415 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: You know, right, And I guess the competitive energy is 416 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: lower because they're like, well, we're all going to get times, 417 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: you know. If he's off washing the dogs with Dina, 418 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: no Biggie all have my time in a little. 419 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: Bit exactly exactly, you know. And I think that that's 420 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: the vibe that that was there. You know that it 421 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: wasn't too competitive, but it was good to where we 422 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: all we all got along and then the dog's help, 423 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 3: you know, the dogs didn't hurt. 424 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just finished week three. How has it been 425 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: deciding who is getting sent home every week? I know 426 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: it gets harder every single week, but are you still 427 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: kind of at the point where you're like, you know, 428 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's clear. Are we struggling? What's that like? 429 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 3: Listen? It was a struggle for me every week, honestly, 430 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: even you saw like, I'm an impact, so I feel 431 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: for people and sometimes it leads me to make decisions 432 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 3: based upon them how other people feel. So even the 433 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: first Row ceremonies, second Roll seminary, when I saw Ello crime, like, 434 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: I felt bad, felt really bad, and you know, but 435 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: it's something that it has to be done. So I 436 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: just tried to keep in my mind, you know, this 437 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: is for I'm trying to find my person, and this 438 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: is the way it goes, you know. And yeah, I 439 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: may may have been a little naive, you know what 440 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: I'm saying, like be just because you know, I know 441 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: that this is what needs to be done, but I 442 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: felt I felt bad about it, and and it becomes harder. 443 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: It only becomes harder. 444 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: We see stepping a little bit outside the show. We 445 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: see that you release a song. 446 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: On Spotify, party Girls. 447 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: Which I feel like, I feel like the audience may 448 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: have a mixed reaction to. A. The song is called 449 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: party Girls, and B there is a lot of stigma 450 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: around people that do go on this show and music Is. 451 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: I feel like music Is that is the one instance 452 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: where everyone's like, oh, they're just here for their music career. 453 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: How would you respond to all that? 454 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's you know, I think that it's 455 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: possible to you know, look for love and have interests. 456 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: You know, maybe the timing wasn't the best, you know, 457 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, night one is like a party. 458 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 3: It's you know, it's just my vibe, you know, somebody 459 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 3: just likes to have fun, I'm creative and that's just me. 460 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: So it's not like I'm there for the wrong reasons. 461 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 3: I think people throw that around so much. I think 462 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: you could have both. You know, if you like to paint, 463 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: you could be on the show and paint. If you 464 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: like to do karaoke. 465 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: You know, I just is something part of who you are. 466 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: You know, I went on the show and all of 467 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm on stage with Mario. I think that's 468 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: something that is you know. I think music is something 469 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: that's really fun. I'm not saying I'm going to be 470 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 3: doing that, but I feel like it's. Yeah, it was 471 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: just something I had fun with and maybe maybe I 472 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 3: could have worked on the timing a little. 473 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: I like what you said that you can be looking 474 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: for love and have passion and interest that you're pursuing 475 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: at the same time. Are you pursuing a music career? 476 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: Is that a goal or intention of yours? 477 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's not a goal or intention of 478 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: mine at all. You know, I think that I'm really 479 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: happy with a lot of people work. I do like karaoke, 480 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: and you know, getting in the studio and making a song. 481 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: If I think that it's you know, I always like 482 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: to push myself or test myself, whether it's like boxing 483 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: or or even in trading, or you know, just certain 484 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: artists you're playing piano or trying to learn a new 485 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: language or learning an instrument. I think it's something I 486 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: always try to do. So I'm not pursuing a music career. 487 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: I'm not going to be dropping singles. But I think 488 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: that the song fit the night. And I thought it was, like, 489 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: you know, it's a big party, so I just I thought, 490 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: you know, it would have been really good. The song 491 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: was terrible. I thought I would have got ringed out, 492 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: but I thought it was okay, you know, but I 493 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 3: won't you know, you guys don't have to worry about 494 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: me dropping and no more singles. Regret, no more singles. 495 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: I won't be driving any more single. 496 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So we're threep. We're three episodes in what then 497 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: you're obviously watching it back. What has been the most 498 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: surprising element of the show or anything that's happened to 499 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: you so far. 500 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of things. Obviously, not that I 501 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: was surprised, but I was really happy with how great 502 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: the ladies were. And then two, you know, watching it 503 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 3: back and seeing everything that happens that you don't see, 504 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: and there's such a short amount of time you have 505 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: to make the decisions that you have to make, and 506 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: they and they and they're so judged and they're weighed upon. 507 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, just seeing just seeing the dynamic that was 508 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: happening in the house when I wasn't there. And I 509 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: think that, you know, the thoughts that I were having 510 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 3: about the ladies, I think that they're they're unfolding. I 511 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: think everybody is is the way that they were were. 512 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's no like woman that you're like, Oh, 513 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm shocked to see you act like this. 514 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 3: No, No, there's there's none that I was that I'm 515 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 3: shocked with. You know. Uh, there's none that I'm shocked with. 516 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: And I think everybody stayed true to themselves. 517 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: That's good. That's got to be a good feeling. I 518 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: feel like that's not that's not always the case. 519 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: This season's not over yet, so we. 520 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: Got that's true. There's still a lot to come. 521 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean, so far, so far, the drama that has 522 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: been brought to your attention. We mentioned in our in 523 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: our recap that I mean, I feel like I would 524 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: handle it the same way you're handling it. I think 525 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: you're doing a really good job of just kind of like, 526 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, hitting it on the head right away, like 527 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: what's going on. Are you happy about that approach and 528 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: do you kind of carry that on for the rest 529 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: of the season. 530 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, something, especially in my life, I confront things 531 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: like right then and there because if you don't, you 532 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: live festers and the terms in something way bigger. I 533 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: was really I tried to go in there and do 534 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: the best I could to not be a part of 535 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: any drama, but it just so happened the drama involved 536 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: me and are something that I you know, that somebody 537 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: thought I said. So that was really surprising to me. 538 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: That was like a curve ball and that was probably 539 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: like my worst nightmare happening, and it happened. So I 540 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 3: had to like approach. I had to approach it right 541 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: then and there because if I just ignored it, then it, 542 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: you know, the ladies would have really started to question 543 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 3: my character, and that's the last thing I wanted because 544 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: I proud myself on that. So just that was something 545 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 3: to me that was a difficult situation, but I handled 546 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: it the best way. 547 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you something that Joe and 548 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: I were talking about during our recap because in this episode, 549 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: we see you navigate a situation with where Zoe comes 550 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: to you and kind of says, hey, there's some stuff 551 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: going on in the house, but she doesn't give any names. 552 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: And then on the flip side, we see Carolina come 553 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: to you and talk about what Rose said and like 554 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: you kind of have to pry it out of her. 555 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 2: You have to give a couple guesses, but you eventually 556 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: get there. What is your preference, like we were we 557 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: were like, what's the right way to do this? Like 558 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: do you tell the lead who said what? Do you 559 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 2: give names? Do you not give names? 560 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: In my opinion, if you're gonna if you're gonna do it, 561 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: then do it all the way. Like if you're gonna 562 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: come to you with with information, then I want all 563 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: of the information. 564 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: But we're also coming from a viewer's perspective, right, like 565 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: we haven't been in your shoes. 566 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's a that's actually a really good question. 567 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: I feel like, typically in my life, if somebody said something, 568 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna approach the person specifically. But since I'm like 569 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 3: the buffer, but the lead is the buffer in between, 570 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: I think if you're gonna come and say that, then 571 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: you can't leave them like, well, so this and this 572 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: said this and just figure it out. Yeah, yeah, that's 573 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: that's you know, maybe you could. But then again, on 574 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: the flip side of play Devil's Advocate, it's like it's 575 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: a little messy if you're like so and so said 576 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: this and I don't want you, so it's that's like 577 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: a really delicate situation. 578 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: Is because when girls come to you and say like, hey, 579 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: this is going on, I must I feel like we 580 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: see it. And even if you're not saying it in 581 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: your head, your first question is probably like, well, who, 582 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: like who did that? Who said that? But then at 583 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: the same time, when you have the information of who 584 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: it gets you, you kind of have to get involved. 585 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: Now you have a sense of like accountability of the situation. 586 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 3: I think the best way to go about it, like 587 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: if I could rewind the clock, it will be somebody 588 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: comes to me said, there's something happening in the house. 589 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 3: I'm uncomfortable with the situation. I'm just letting you know, 590 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 3: And then it would be up to me to to 591 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: to sit all the ladies down and approach it. Listen, 592 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: there's some things happening. That's my first thing. And then 593 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: if it continues to happen, then you tell. 594 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: Me who it was. 595 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 3: But the first, the first action would be she tells me, 596 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 3: doesn't tell me any names, and then it will be 597 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: up for me to sit everybody down and to say, okay, 598 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: like there's some there's something going on. Can somebody tell 599 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: me who it is? You know, I would like to 600 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: know what's going on, and then that way they could 601 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: tell me, and then if they don't tell me, it continues, 602 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: and I know it's it's that's the best. 603 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: It's giving grant. It's giving principal grant of the Boucher Academy. 604 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: I mean, were you expected going in that you were 605 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: going to have to kind of like be mediating a 606 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: lot of situations between different women. 607 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: I was so naive going in. I'm like, we're all 608 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 3: gonna have fun and I'm going to get to know 609 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: these women, and I'm going to try to if there's 610 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: a situation. I didn't expect that, Like, I knew there 611 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: was gonna be something, but I didn't I didn't think 612 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: that it would involve something something I said or something 613 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 3: that they thought I said. I didn't think that that 614 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: was like, that was like a three sixty flip the 615 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: switch on me because I didn't I didn't know. I 616 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: didn't know. And then it really dampered a lot of 617 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: my relationships in the house because people start. 618 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: To question, yeah, we know, know how this drama has 619 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: affected your relationship with Rose obviously, how did it affect 620 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: your relationship with Carolina? 621 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: It affected my relationship ship with Rose and Carolina because 622 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: at that point I was like, why is why are 623 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: you guys talking about things that are being said behind 624 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 3: my back, you know, or like behind it, you know, 625 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: to each other. It's like, get it just I'm not 626 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: gonna say, you know, for me, I wouldn't have handled 627 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: that may that's all. And then I wouldn't have handled 628 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: it that way. And I need somebody that's gonna handle 629 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: the situation the way I, you know, see things similar 630 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: to me. So it definitely was a red It definitely 631 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: let off some some alarms there, but then I still 632 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: needed to process it and figured out what I was 633 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: going to do because it could have just been miscommunication. 634 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: You know, there's always that aspect. 635 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Did Joey the the Last Bachelor, give you any advice 636 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: going in? 637 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? Not going in? He gave me a you know, 638 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 3: there's a He gave me some good advice, which was just, 639 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, you have to stay true to yourself, and 640 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: you know you're the person that you're with is going 641 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: to be watching it back one day, so just move 642 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: with respect. And you know, I definitely did that. My 643 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: season is that it was definitely a lot different than 644 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: his season, you know, in terms of the drama. So 645 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: I had to try to figure out how to navigate 646 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: that myself, you know, So that was something that was difficult. 647 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: So watching it back, what have been some of your 648 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: favorite moments to either relive or see for the first time. 649 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: Uh, just just my personality, you know, I love to 650 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: have fun. I thought the R and B date was 651 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: It was definitely was cringey, but I had fun. I 652 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: thought it was really fun. I thought the basketball date 653 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: was really fun seeing seeing the ladies do something that 654 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: they typically don't do and just put themselves out there. 655 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: It showed me who really wanted to be there, and 656 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: I think they all did. 657 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: I view were to put money on it, Who's if 658 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: you were in a bet again for any of the 659 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: women playing basketball, Who's the best player? 660 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: The great question? Honestly, Chloe was the best Chloe. Chloe. 661 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: She she is, Yeah, she's tall. She has a really 662 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: good layup package. You know, she was doing left hand 663 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: right hand, so. 664 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: She's gotta Chloe. Okay, before we let you go, what 665 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: episode were you most excited to watch back between one, 666 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: two and three? 667 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: One? Yeah? 668 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah? 669 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: One. You know that's iconic. 670 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: Night one so iconic and also just light, like you 671 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: can really enjoy. I feel like. 672 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: Everything that's the night where there's no no stress, Like 673 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: it's one, there's no expect well, there's expectations, but there's 674 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: no nothing before that happens, so you just to do. 675 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: It's magic. Joe and I love Night one episodes. If 676 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: you could describe your season in one word, what would 677 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: it be? 678 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: Roller coaster? 679 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: And I feel like there's been a tone here of 680 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: like there's a lot to come, so I'm bracing myself. 681 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: But the last question is is there anything you can 682 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: tease for us for next week's episode, which will be 683 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: episode number four? 684 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: Next week's episode, Oh yeah, next week's episode, Episode four 685 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 3: is definitely Uh, it's gonna involve a really beautiful location 686 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: and it's gonna be it's gonna be romantic, and you know, 687 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: hopefully you know, the drama dies down, it's gonna be 688 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: a roller coaster. It's gonna be a really cool Grant. 689 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much for taking time out 690 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: of your busy schedule and hopping on Bachelor Happy Hour. 691 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, have a safe light to New York. Thanks for 692 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: making the time and stay tuned for more episodes of 693 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: Grant season of the Bachelor, and be sure to tune 694 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: into our exclusive recaps and interviews on Bachelor Happy Hour. 695 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, Bye 696 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: Bye, Thanks for having me back.