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Speaker 2: If my banboity won't break with things get hard the

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Speaker 1: You don't just walk away.

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Speaker 3: My start a little rusty, but it'll.

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Speaker 1: Shine stops easty. What he knew all of all, we

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Speaker 4: Can it get through like the next six months with

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Speaker 1: Probably? You know if your sister's not. If your sister's

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Speaker 1: not going to be the little old lady from Pasadena

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Speaker 5: It, definitely not.

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Speaker 4: You're like the opposite.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the

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Speaker 3: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car

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Speaker 3: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 3: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 3: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors car.

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Speaker 1: Open here, but I am here to take your calls

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Speaker 1: at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and

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Speaker 1: Well, that was kind of spooky and only Tom Ray

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Speaker 1: And I guess that's what it's all about. People's faces, Yep,

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Speaker 1: about this nine Honda Odyssey that I had this week.

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Speaker 1: P zero three twenty five. P zero three twenty five

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Speaker 1: car lines. This P zero three twenty five is a

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Speaker 1: knock sensor fault. A knock sensor is a device that

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Speaker 1: pinging or detonating or knocking, generally from poor gasoline. Remember

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Speaker 1: They were just trying to make the engine more efficient.

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Speaker 1: YEP P zero three twenty five. It's a dynamic test.

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Speaker 1: took out a borscope. A borscope is an electronic device,

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Speaker 1: It knocked the knock sensor over, It broke it right

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Speaker 1: You know, if you think about what you're trying to achieve,

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Speaker 1: would they test it when it failed? You can figure

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Speaker 1: It just worked out. So I just thought you'd like

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Speaker 1: keep it from happening? Anhou and New Hampshire oil undercoating.

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Speaker 1: Use a little mouse out oil spray and coat the

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Speaker 1: it'll last a couple of My guess is it'll last

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Speaker 1: oil lasts a good long time. Anyway, I'm roninany in

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Speaker 1: the car doctor. The phone number here is eight five

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Speaker 6: Don't go away.

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Speaker 7: What's more fun than listening to Ron and Nannie in

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Speaker 7: the car doctor and getting that car fixed? Right? Eight

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Speaker 1: To Virginia and talk to David. Welcome to the car Doctor, sir,

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Speaker 1: How can I help?

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Speaker 2: I have a two thousand and four Dodge twenty five

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Speaker 2: drive automatic transformssion HEMI engine. It's performed perfect up until

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Speaker 2: not long ago. I put in four wheel drive to

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Speaker 2: make a turn where conversation, it is just like turning

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Speaker 2: And when I made about half of a turn, the

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Speaker 2: its tight to the right, and it s felt like

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Speaker 2: the truck was raising up when I had in four

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Speaker 2: but I've tried to the left. It does the same thing.

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Speaker 2: It didn't give us no warning. I've taken it to

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Speaker 2: different years, but I wrote in both of them and

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Speaker 2: they're doing the same thing and they say it's normal.

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Speaker 2: It's not normal.

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Speaker 1: So let me get this right.

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Speaker 2: It will actually take this steering wheel at your hand.

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Speaker 1: It's it's only when you're it's only it's only when

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Speaker 1: you're in four wheel drive. David, Yes, sir, okay, you

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Speaker 1: put it in two wheel drive. The truck has no

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Speaker 1: just to cover the basics. Any recent tire work. The

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Speaker 1: are you there? Did we lose David. Think we lost David?

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Speaker 1: What happened? Have you went out side to check on

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Speaker 1: trying to get David back. Did you see the articles?

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Speaker 1: year may not slow down until fall. The article starts out,

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Speaker 1: Oil prices are the big driver West Texas Intermediate, the benchmark,

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Speaker 1: US crewed closed in on eighty seven dollars a barrel

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Speaker 1: a week ago, Brent the global benchmark settled above ninety

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Speaker 1: Following four forces say that three times fast. Middle East tensions,

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Speaker 1: I see that. You know it's but I just make

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you aware of it? Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 1: In terms of you know, five dollars a gallon gasoline?

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Speaker 1: Let's say I understand David's back.

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Speaker 5: David.

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Speaker 1: Are you there, sir? Yes, I am okay, yeah, now

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Speaker 1: we can hear you. There you go, So, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just want to cover the basics. Tires, tires are

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Speaker 1: all the correct size, nothing's changed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, all right, and same as a manufacturer.

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Speaker 1: Right. So has anybody anybody ever do anybody ever do David,

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Speaker 1: anybody ever do any drive line fluid service to this truck?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, how recently it's all perfect?

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Speaker 1: No, no, That's not what I'm asking. How long ago

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Speaker 1: So how long after they did it did the problem start?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's been probably three months leaks.

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Speaker 1: Not talking about leaks. You're you're jumping ahead. So it

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Speaker 1: was after driveline fluid service, just to cover the base, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: the transfer case, and the transmission. I don't think this

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But is it a posy traction rear? Right? Is there?

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Speaker 1: Is it a posey traction rear? Just because they didn't

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Speaker 1: miss a step? I'm not picking on anybody. I'm not

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Speaker 1: just trying to unwind the problem.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I understand.

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Speaker 1: Ah, you know that's go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I didn't mention anything.

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Speaker 1: And David, if they don't if they don't know that

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Speaker 1: or if somebody's not thinking, if the service writer isn't

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Speaker 1: if everybody did everything perfect, your truck wouldn't be broken, right,

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Speaker 1: all things considered, right, So we've got to start to

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Speaker 1: think outside the box. We've got a broken vehicle. Vehicle's broken.

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Speaker 1: Why is it broken? What steps weren't taken or were

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Speaker 1: to find out that they service it correctly. Right, So

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Speaker 1: it's a simple case. It's a simple case of go

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't, then I'm willing to bet this has

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Speaker 1: I'm here for you. I'm ronning any and the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: I'll return right after this. Who's gone and got welcome

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Speaker 1: that article was written with the intention for the rest

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got rust coming through my rear fender walls

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Speaker 4: and I'm just was wondering is it easier just to

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Speaker 1: Well, I got to tell you first, you show me

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Speaker 1: They always, they always tell me, think of the Titanic,

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Speaker 1: But you know, this is an O four. This vehicle's

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Speaker 1: you're gonna find even more, all right, is I would

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Speaker 1: honestly try to locate a pickup bed for the truck

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the I'll never forget, Robbie, one of the

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Speaker 1: funny thing, right, It's just just and never I never

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Speaker 1: rust is on the outside. They said, no, it starts

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Speaker 1: there and it works its way to the outside, or

433
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Speaker 1: sometimes the other way around. They said, but if it's

434
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Speaker 1: not here, we're not going to expect to see it there.

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00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: It's just just you know, rust is everywhere. It's it's

436
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: just like a disease no matter where you go, and

437
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: it's you got to get to it early enough, you know.

438
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Speaker 1: I went through this. I went through this on the suburban.

439
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Speaker 1: The suburban tailgate. My O four Suburban is actually in

440
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Speaker 1: aluminum gate, and it corroded around this the punch button

441
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Speaker 1: for the lock cylinder, and going back probably about four

442
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Speaker 1: or five years, it finally just started to lift the

443
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Speaker 1: paint and I had it all done and I got

444
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Speaker 1: to it early, and they told me the bodyshop guy said,

445
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Speaker 1: you know, listen, you lucked out because you had you

446
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Speaker 1: let this go on, you would have been putting a

447
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Speaker 1: tailgate on the truck. So yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so I think you're right. It's too

449
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: far gone. That's that's kind of what I was thinking.

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Speaker 1: But what color truck is it? It's like a brown,

451
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: the brown or whatever, and you might get lucky. They

452
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,239
Speaker 1: probably made more than two or three of those, so

453
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Speaker 1: you might you might you might find a brown. You

454
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Speaker 1: might find you just might find a brown bed. That's

455
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Speaker 1: that's that's kind of weathered and looks right. And you

456
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: won't even have to paint it. You'll just have to

457
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Speaker 1: lift it up, drive it off. And that's an easy

458
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Speaker 1: you know what, that's a weekend swapping the driveway on,

459
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: bolt the bed, just a few bolts, disconnect the wires.

460
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Speaker 1: Look at how the gas tank filler neck is hooked up. Obviously,

461
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Speaker 1: make sure if you know, are you a dual tank

462
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Speaker 1: or a single tank.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just make sure you match that, and then you

465
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Speaker 1: know you could even support that. Build yourself a two

466
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Speaker 1: by four frame jack the lift the bed up, drive

467
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Speaker 1: the truck out, drive the new bed underneath, so to speak.

468
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Speaker 1: Put it on a second frame next to the side

469
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Speaker 1: of it and you know that. Or it's a couple

470
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Speaker 1: of buddies and some pizza and beer on a Saturday

471
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Speaker 1: afternoon listening to the car doctor. Either way, you'll get

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Speaker 1: the objective acquired.

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Speaker 4: So I'll drive it into Uh, I'll drive it into

474
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Speaker 4: work and with the crane.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go, see the problem solved and you

477
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Speaker 1: get to use the crane. Send us a picture, David,

478
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry not David Roberts, send us a picture of that.

479
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Speaker 1: If you do that, that'd be good for the Facebook page.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, all right, all right, maybe be well,

481
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Speaker 1: you're very welcome, sir. Good luck to you. Yeah, listen, uh,

482
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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of ways to do it,

483
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Speaker 1: but when it comes to rust, rust is a hard

484
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: is a hard thing to get rid of. And that's

485
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Speaker 1: why you want to stay on top of it. That's

486
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Speaker 1: why you want to, you know, be aware. That's why listen.

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Speaker 1: I will on all my vehicles if I'm driving them

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Speaker 1: through a snowstorm, I'm weird like this. I'll be the

489
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Speaker 1: I'll be the dopey guy out there with a garden

490
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: hose spraying water underneath all the wheel wells the first

491
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Speaker 1: chance I get, so I wash off all the salt,

492
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: and it's just it's staggering the amount of chemical they

493
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: put on the road today. It's like there's a war

494
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: on ice and they just you know, no no expense

495
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Speaker 1: spared to because it all ends up on our vehicles

496
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: and then it just rots the vehicle and then you know, listen,

497
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Speaker 1: if you're from Maine, I'm not telling you guys anything now.

498
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: You guys know all this because you know it's it's

499
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Speaker 1: something that the state of Maine always sticks in my

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Speaker 1: mind because there they've got so many issues up there

501
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: with you know, salt and corrosion and chemicals. I still remember, God,

502
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Speaker 1: I bet it's five years now when the bridge outside

503
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Speaker 1: Bath Maine. Maybe it's longer. There was an article written

504
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: up that the bridge outside of Bath Maine actually corroded

505
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Speaker 1: off its foundation due to the amount of chemicals that

506
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: were being sprayed on the roadway is over time and

507
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: it just rotted the bridge and they had to close

508
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Speaker 1: the bridge down and rebuild it. So I'll never forget that.

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00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: Just just so think about that on your vehicles. And

510
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: that's why trucks likes Roberts, you know, wrought out. It's

511
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: all those chemicals washed. The underside of the truck just

512
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Speaker 1: as important as the top as well. Eight five five

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Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero Again eight five

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Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero the Car

515
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Speaker 1: Doctor's twenty four to seven number, and it's live and

516
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Speaker 1: active now, so give us a call when we return.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back right, Welcome back running the Car Doctor here.

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Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zeros

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Speaker 1: the phone number, and by the way, thank you for

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00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: your kind words. Again. Classic Car Doctors doing well out there.

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Speaker 1: On the podcast page, we're posting old shows, ten year

522
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Speaker 1: older shows from you know, days gone by and talking

523
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Speaker 1: about you know, things that ten years ago in the

524
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Speaker 1: automotive field. And it's interesting, right. Somebody sent me a

525
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: note this week that I didn't expect this response, but

526
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: it brought tears to their eyes. She said. Then she

527
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: was hearing somebody talk about a car that their mom,

528
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: who's now passed, was driving, and the person was having

529
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Speaker 1: the same problems that the mom was having, and it

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Speaker 1: just made her relive, you know, her mom's concerns over

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Speaker 1: the car and you know, the whole experience that she

532
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Speaker 1: had with the mechanic at the time, and she wrote me,

533
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: you know, and she says, I wish we had found

534
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: you sooner, and Mom would have known the answer because

535
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: I heard you talking about her and giving the answer

536
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: at that time. So I didn't think I was and

537
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: I think I was having that kind of effect on people.

538
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: But then again, that's the day. Today is kind of like,

539
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Speaker 1: So let's get over and talk to Steve in Florida

540
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: seventeen Patriot and see what's going on here, Steve. Welcome

541
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: to the car, doctor, sir, how can I help?

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00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: Yes, Tom, God just keeps losing anti freeze. There's no

543
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 5: leap that's visible, there's no smoke coming out of the engine. Okay,

544
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 5: and it sits in the sun a lot, because this

545
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 5: is the second guy doesn't move around a lot.

546
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: Well, any freeze won't evaporate. It'll evaporate over a long

547
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: period of time, but not as not as readily as water.

548
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: How much coolant are you using and how fast a

549
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: period of time?

550
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 5: Oh, I just had the pull happen and that's probably

551
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 5: like over two months.

552
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So you put two quarts in two months ago, okay, Yeah,

553
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: And if you don't operate the vehicle, does it still

554
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: seem to go away.

555
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 5: No, it's what it is is when I don't operate

556
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 5: the vehicle, that's that's when the any free sives to disappear.

557
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: Okay, then have you Yeah that is odd. So you're saying,

558
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: you're saying you don't drive this. You mark the coolant bottle,

559
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: put a little take a black magic marker, marck the

560
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: coolant overflow bottle, because our mind plays tricks on us. Right,

561
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: and you come back to that vehicle in a month,

562
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: and the level is going to be down a court down,

563
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: yeah at least. Okay, So here's what I want you

564
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: to do as a science project. All right, I want

565
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: you to mark the bottle. I want you to I

566
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: want you to write the date and a mark on

567
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: the bottle. All right, that's the day you checked it.

568
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: I want you to check it in a week. I

569
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Speaker 1: want you to check it in two weeks. I want

570
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: you to check it in three weeks. Is it a

571
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: gradual decline or is it all at once?

572
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, all right, just just.

573
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: To see where's it going. Number one. Number two. If

574
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: you find that it's losing it, and you know, unless

575
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: you've just got something really strange here, because anti freeze

576
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: doesn't evaporate. And if you want to, if you want

577
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: to try an experiment, take a gallon of anti freeze

578
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: and leave it under the hood. Leave it under the

579
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: hood of the truck. Right, just just take a full

580
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: gallon of anti freeze, put it under the hood of

581
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Speaker 1: the truck. Get yourself a gallon of anti freeze. Maybe

582
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: we're the side panel. You know, it's got a clear

583
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: side panel, so you can see how low it is

584
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: without opening the bottle. Right. And in theory, if it's evaporation,

585
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: then the bottle should lose it just like just like

586
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: the jug, right, you know, leave the cap on the juggle.

587
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: Leave the cap on the jug a little loose, just

588
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: so it can, you know, kind of emulate it, all right.

589
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: And if both of these prove false, then maybe we've

590
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: got maybe you've got a CP head gasket. It's it's

591
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: diluting a little coolant into the oil. Although you would

592
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: think the oil level would have come up by now, right, right,

593
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: that the engine oil would show contamination. Now, as an aside,

594
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: if we want to eliminate the engine as a possibility,

595
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: a bottle of case seal would do. Wonders here, all right,

596
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: Kcal is the best head gasket sealer out there. It's

597
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: not going to hurt anything. And as a preventative, this

598
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: is a this is an older vehicle. RW is only

599
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: seven years old, eight years old, higher mileage, higher mileage, Steve, Yeah,

600
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's getting up there, two leader or

601
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: the two point four the two Okay, yeah, I would

602
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't be afraid to put a bottle

603
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: of k Seal in it. And you know, make sure

604
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: if we're chasing, if we think we're chasing a head

605
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: gasket k Seal Ultimate, which has a third more ceiling

606
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: power against the head gasket fault. You can read about it.

607
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: Go out to k seal dot com. You bill to

608
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: read about it. But that's what I would try number one,

609
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: number two, And then you know number three. You're not

610
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: going to see any smoke out the tailpipe. You're not

611
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: going to see any external signs because the catalytic converter,

612
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: if it is burning it through the engine, will detect it.

613
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: And then last, you don't have a brother in law

614
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Speaker 1: playing a practical joke on you, do you.

615
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: Just just just checking right?

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00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: You know, I I ran into that a while ago,

617
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: so you know, just I always think about the possibilities,

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00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: all right, do those things call us back? We always

619
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Speaker 1: want to know, all right, Steven.

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00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 5: Yes, very good, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, Thanks for calling in you too, sir, Hey bye bye,

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Speaker 1: eight five five, Well, it's possible. If I live next

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Speaker 1: door to Tom Ray, I would almost expect it, right

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Speaker 1: eight five five five six ninety nine hundred. I'm running

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Speaker 1: any in the guard doctor. I'll be back right after this.

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00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: Welcome back, running of the car doctor. I think there

627
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: are two tools that mechanics should be licensed to own

628
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: and use before they actually are allowed to. One of

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Speaker 1: them is a hammer and the other one's a screwdriver.

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Speaker 1: And I think if we took those away from them,

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Speaker 1: you know, from a few select individuals, you would see

632
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: a big improvement in the quality of auto repair. We

633
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: had a seventeen suburban in the shop this week and

634
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: it was simple. You know, sometimes auto repairs it's the

635
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: mistakes you make by by assuming, because I always say,

636
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: you get beat mentally in this business, not not physically,

637
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: all right, And it's the mental mistakes you make. And

638
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: we had a seventeen suburban that needed rear breaks. It

639
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: had come in for an oil change the week before

640
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: the customer couldn't leave it that day for breaks. We

641
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: couldn't get to it that day. We were too busy.

642
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: So it came back and it needed rear break, so

643
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: we were you know, scheduled it for rear breaks. We

644
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: did rear breaks and or we were trying to do

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Speaker 1: a rear break, so we you know, we got our

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Speaker 1: pads and rotors all right. You know, the boys at

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Speaker 1: AutoZone came through again and we went about doing our

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Speaker 1: rear breaks. But it was late in the day. It's

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Speaker 1: always late in the day. It's always you know, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to start anything big after two o'clock. And

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Speaker 1: I always make this mental mistake. I go, it's just

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Speaker 1: rear breaks on a seventeen suburban with with sixty thousand

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Speaker 1: miles on it, how bad could it pay? And right

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Speaker 1: we took the rear breaks apart and we got to

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Speaker 1: the right side and Danny says, hey, Ron, come over

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Speaker 1: here and look at this. And I walk over and

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Speaker 1: there were these two holes in the break piston, like

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Speaker 1: you could see where the pad something had jammed itself

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Speaker 1: into the piston and we couldn't get the piston to

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Speaker 1: go back into the count. It was like oblonged. So

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Speaker 1: we real quick went out to the AutoZone pro dot

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Speaker 1: com website looked it up because they have great pictures there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's one of the things we love

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Speaker 1: about AutoZone and the website for US pros, and we

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Speaker 1: were able to see and you know, listen, the dura

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Speaker 1: Ast calipers are just phenomenal. Just didn't fit, finish and

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Speaker 1: everything else. But you know, obviously we had them rushes

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Speaker 1: over a pair. We were trying to figure out what happened.

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Speaker 1: We realized the guy before us had put the inner

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Speaker 1: brake pad, he swapped the inner and the outer breakpad.

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Speaker 1: He put the pads in the wrong place, so the

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Speaker 1: locator pins for the outside pad were up against the

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Speaker 1: piston and that means that the gap was about a

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Speaker 1: sixteenth of an inch too high. And we're figuring the

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Speaker 1: only way he got the caliper on was a hammer

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Speaker 1: and a screwdriver. He kind of just wedged it around

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Speaker 1: it up, I'll make it fit right, And God, we

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Speaker 1: got to take things away from these guys. They just

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be allowed. It just shouldn't be allowed. If it

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Speaker 1: doesn't fit, don't force it. I mean, that's got to

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Speaker 1: be the rule. But that's my AutoZone pro story for

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Speaker 1: the w this week, and it's a true one and

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Speaker 1: the tip of the wrench to the guys over at AutoZone.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate all they do for us. I'm Ron an

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Speaker 1: Ai and the Car Doctor. It's been a pleasure till

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Speaker 1: the next time. Remember, good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: See you