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Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you should Know from House Stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and this is

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Speaker 1: stuff you should know the podcast. And it's election day.

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Speaker 1: We didn't mention that before. Oh yeah, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: election day. I'm not sure when this is gonna come out.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you exactly it's gonna come out. How

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Speaker 1: do we know about this one? Well, it'll come out

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Speaker 1: either the twenties, seventh or twenty nine of November. Yeah, great,

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Speaker 1: what a great time to talk about pek oil. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the holiday season. Everybody's still digesting Thanksgiving dinner. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: a little chilly out. It's what's every It's what everyone's

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Speaker 1: thinking about right now when football and sports and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that in fall colors. Let's talk about oil instead.

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Speaker 1: When will the world's oil production be outstripped by demand irrevocably?

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's what peak oil is. That's what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Before we get started, I need to just

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Speaker 1: clear something up. Peak oil is a definite thing. So

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Speaker 1: where's the controversy when it's gonna happen, When it's gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: and exactly what will happen after it? Help because reading

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Speaker 1: this I was a little confused. It seemed like some

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Speaker 1: people were like denying that it was going to happen

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Speaker 1: at all or something. Yeah, we got run out of

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Speaker 1: oil at some point. So if you talk to any

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Speaker 1: peak oil adherent there's there's definitely some that are a

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Speaker 1: little more the sky is following them, and I think

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Speaker 1: they probably represent the minority, especially now. But if you

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Speaker 1: went back to two when I wrote this, remember Matt Baker, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Matt Baker, he used to work here. He was a developer.

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Speaker 1: He got me into this, and he would go to

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Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, Matt, Yeah, he would go like meetings

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Speaker 1: and like about the future without oil and like I

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Speaker 1: mean like he was big time into it. And at

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Speaker 1: that time, there are a lot of like very smart

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Speaker 1: people talking very loudly saying like, dudes, we may have

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Speaker 1: already hit peak oil and we need to start doing

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Speaker 1: something about it or else, like we're really in really

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Speaker 1: big trouble. Those those voices have quieted down quite a

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Speaker 1: bit due to some developments in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: It's almost kind of like a throwback. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff happening. But um, for the most part, there

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Speaker 1: is agreement that we will one day hit peak oil.

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Speaker 1: And the definition of peak oil is now when we

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Speaker 1: run out of oil, but when our oil production right

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Speaker 1: like removing it from the ground, it can no longer

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Speaker 1: keep up with demand. The whole reason that this will

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Speaker 1: probably happen is because oil is a very finite resource, right, yes,

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Speaker 1: and we are not treating it as such. No, So

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Speaker 1: those two things combined mean that we're gonna gonna run

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Speaker 1: out at some point. But even if we did treat it,

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Speaker 1: like even if we did conserve our oil, but we

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Speaker 1: didn't bring any other type of energy into it, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a finite resource. Like it takes ten million years

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Speaker 1: for um, these these fossil fuels at least to be

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Speaker 1: produced to turn into crude oil. Um. The reason we

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Speaker 1: have so much of it is because there was a

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Speaker 1: massive die out of large dinosaurs. Now see I read

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Speaker 1: that the dinosaurs had very little to do with it,

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Speaker 1: and then it was like other, uh, living creatures. Well,

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Speaker 1: you tell me who said that that's that's that's a

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Speaker 1: good look it up. Some guy a lot smarter than me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So but regardless, regardless Um. The dinosaurs may or may

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Speaker 1: not have had something to do with it. But things

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Speaker 1: that lived at least ten million years ago and whose

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Speaker 1: corpses were subject to these specific geological processes form oil.

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Speaker 1: And there's only a very limited amount of it. It

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Speaker 1: is the definition of a non renewable resource petroleum. We're

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Speaker 1: going to run out of it event filling. But like

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Speaker 1: you were asking, like when that happens, and what happens

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Speaker 1: when we reach that point. That's what the debate over

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Speaker 1: peak oil is. Because some people think we may never

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Speaker 1: hit peak oil. Um, we may. We may come up

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Speaker 1: and and like maybe we'll just leave oil behind, will

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Speaker 1: wind technology and we'll be fine. But for the most part,

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Speaker 1: which again isn't running out of oil, it's where production

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Speaker 1: who are peak oil adherents are very very satisfied with

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Speaker 1: Hibbert Hubbert? He's dead? Probably, well, I believe, so all right,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about but it is all based on M.

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Speaker 1: King Hubbert's Hubbart curve. That's right. Do we need to

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Speaker 1: talk about the VP reporter? Is that old news? Well

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Speaker 1: they do that every year. Okay, so what does the

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Speaker 1: recent one say? Do you know? Well, this is one

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Speaker 1: of the recent developments. So this BPU Statistical Review of

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Speaker 1: World Energy um BP compiles all of this energy information

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Speaker 1: energy information and um In two thousand eight they published

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Speaker 1: that they that we have one point or one thousand,

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Speaker 1: That's one point to trillion barrels of oil improved reserves. Now,

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Speaker 1: That's that adds to the whole oil base. But BP

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Speaker 1: four hundred billion barrels of oil in four years. That's

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Speaker 1: a that's a that was a huge thing that quieted

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Speaker 1: everybody down. Okay, well that's good. Yeah, UM could be

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Speaker 1: a little hinky because, um, the people giving up this

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Speaker 1: based on things like this. Yeah, if you remember, and

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Speaker 1: they're not um, they're not checking their work as it were, either.

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Speaker 1: more funding. So a lot of people say, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: every for every bit of information or data, there's basically

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Speaker 1: And the reason why is because we have no idea

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Speaker 1: Even so, Um, the BP Statistical Review is very very

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Speaker 1: widely respected. It's also criticized for that reason that you

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Speaker 1: up with in the nineteen fifties, which is called the

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Speaker 1: Hubbard curve. Right. Yeah, and this just makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: he predicted that the US would hit its own peak

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Speaker 1: it by a year. The you s oil production peaked

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Speaker 1: same predictable curve. And eventually, when you hit this plateau

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Speaker 1: It makes sense to you, it makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: So where's the problem? Uh, Well, the the In two

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Speaker 1: thousand seven, the Government Accountability Office published another study that said,

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Speaker 1: walked right by that. So let's look at a relay race.

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Speaker 1: And each of the runners in your relay race is

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Speaker 1: all these racers like racing towards the peak oil line,

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Speaker 1: the finish line. Humanity is like on a way on

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Speaker 1: its way toward that, but how fast we get there

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Speaker 1: depends on these things. So it's almost like they're marbles

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Speaker 1: or jacks or stuff for us to trip their banana peals.

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Speaker 1: These are different kinds of banana appeals. Okay, some are slipper,

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Speaker 1: more slippery than others. Very good then, UM. One thing

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Speaker 1: we use a lot of oil for UM transportation, that's

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Speaker 1: the primary use of UM. What's the percentage now, seventy

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Speaker 1: that worldwide? In the US? Sorry? UM? And as of

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Speaker 1: you say, well, hey, we have stuff in the Arctic reserve,

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Speaker 1: so we're fine, there's a lot of other problems that

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Speaker 1: come up in conjunction with it. Oil is it's very dirty,

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Speaker 1: uh literally and metaphorically that's right. You could destroying ecosystem

429
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Speaker 1: very easily, very easy in the Arctic, very precious balanced ecosystem. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's just think all of our money into all

431
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Speaker 1: alternative energy. It sounds like you're saying, yeah, I would

432
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Speaker 1: say that's a great move, but um, it can be

433
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Speaker 1: uh promising on one hand, but things like switch grass

434
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Speaker 1: and say yello stick ethanol are very corrosive and it's

435
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Speaker 1: very expensive to retrofit gas pumps at a gas station

436
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Speaker 1: and gas storage tanks. It's like a grand gas station. Yeah,

437
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: so it's not like there's some super easy answer. Well

438
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Speaker 1: plus also plus also it's like, um, you're taking investment

439
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: money away from finding new oil fields coming into alternative energy,

440
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: which isn't necessarily a bad thing until you realize that. Well,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, we are. We're globalized, so if you

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Speaker 1: take away oil from China and India, you're gonna slow

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Speaker 1: down this economic engine. Strike that balance, right. It's Homer

444
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Speaker 1: with the goldfish and Mr Pinchie again with the salt.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the same thing. Coal. Um, they can

446
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Speaker 1: actually make liquid coal now that can power a vehicle,

447
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Speaker 1: which is great with no alterations. You can pump it

448
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Speaker 1: right into your car. The bad thing is, um, coal

449
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: is really dirty and you're going to be emitting four

450
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Speaker 1: to eight percent more greenhouse gases than gasoline. Even so

451
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: again no easy answer. Well, the same goes for natural gas.

452
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Speaker 1: Natural gas made up of UM. The energy provided in

453
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Speaker 1: the US that was consumed was provided by natural gas

454
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Speaker 1: last year. That's huge. It's more than coal came out

455
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Speaker 1: of nowhere. Right. But the problem is is that you

456
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Speaker 1: have fracking alongside of that, Like to exhibit, you have

457
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Speaker 1: to basically like create an environmental disaster every time. UM.

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Speaker 1: So there, Yeah, there's all these problems with mitigating it,

459
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Speaker 1: but the worst thing you can do is nothing. This

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Speaker 1: one report that's kind of like peak oil adherence Bible

461
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Speaker 1: found it's called the Hirsh Report, Yeah, or a k a.

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Speaker 1: Peaking of World oil production, colon impacts, mitigation and risk

463
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Speaker 1: management and UM. Robert why they call it the Hersh Report.

464
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Speaker 1: Robert Hirsch put this together and basically laid out three scenarios.

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Speaker 1: It's UM, do nothing, start ten years ahead of time

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Speaker 1: to help out this problem, or start twenty years ahead

467
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Speaker 1: of time to to really head off this problem and

468
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Speaker 1: to head off these mitigations. It's UM figuring out alternative fuels,

469
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: decreasing demand UM basically like just doing whatever you can

470
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Speaker 1: to take the pressure off of production. Yeah, so that

471
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: we still have oil, we're just using less of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And unsurprisingly, he says twenty years before it would be

473
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Speaker 1: the best way to handle this, ten years before. If

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Speaker 1: you did that, he said, it could be a pretty

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Speaker 1: smooth transition. Um, if you start ten years before, then

476
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Speaker 1: what were You're gonna have a problem for about a decade,

477
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Speaker 1: a shortfall And if you don't do anything, then you're

478
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Speaker 1: gonna have at least a twenty years shortfall. And so

479
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, and there's like, yes, a global

480
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Speaker 1: energy um shortfall. Scared, that's scary times there, because oil, petroleum, crude,

481
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: oil and petroleum are found in our medicine, our foods.

482
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: They are used by the tanker trucks and ships that

483
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Speaker 1: deliver petroleum use petroleum to deliver it. It's everything to everybody.

484
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Speaker 1: It's the lifeblood of of the global economic engine. And dude, like,

485
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Speaker 1: we've never experienced anything like what like the catastrophic collapse

486
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Speaker 1: that would happen if we experience a ten year global

487
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Speaker 1: energy shortfall. I got two words for you, mad Max. Yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't I think like I don't

489
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Speaker 1: see an end of that, Like if we experienced ten

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Speaker 1: years or twenty years, I don't see how we would

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Speaker 1: ever come out of that. Yeah, I mean, because it's

492
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: easy to say, well, get on your bicycle, but like

493
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Speaker 1: you said, it's not just hey, I put gas in

494
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Speaker 1: my car to go to work. It is everything, Like

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I can't get food delivered to

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Speaker 1: the grocery store with medicines. Uh. Yeah, it's pretty scary thought.

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Speaker 1: And the big part of the I guess probably the

498
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Speaker 1: biggest problem is like we won't know when we hit

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Speaker 1: peak oil until a few years afterwards, when all these

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Speaker 1: telltale signs start coming. And I'm sure most people won't agree,

501
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: so it'll probably be several years afterwards. But when it's

502
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: just painfully obvious that, oh, production is being outstripped by demand.

503
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: Supplies can't keep up with demand anymore, and it looks

504
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: like it's never going to go back up, which means

505
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: we've hit peak oil, which means we're in trouble. What

506
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 1: mitigation measures do we have in place? Yeah. One thing

507
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear someone say is oops, you know,

508
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Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about the global economic engine. Yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: and I think you said some people claim that it

510
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Speaker 1: might have already happened in two thousand five. Others say, um, no,

511
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Speaker 1: you know what we're good to. What is when we

512
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: hit that undulating plateau, which which which should be not

513
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: a problem as far as serious concerned. But even um

514
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Speaker 1: is what you said the most conservative peak oil. Um,

515
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: that's about say enthusiasts, but inherences. Um, And yeah, that's

516
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: the latest they think it's going to happen as far

517
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Speaker 1: as as when I wrote this in two thousand and eight. Now,

518
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff have happened. Remember, we added almost

519
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Speaker 1: half a trillion barrels of oil, we're using less, our

520
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: cafe standards were increased recently. Um, the three point four

521
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Speaker 1: percent of all new car registrations in the US and

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Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, No, two doesn't twelve so far, Um,

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Speaker 1: we're hybrid or electric, which is one percent just a

524
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Speaker 1: few years ago. But it's such a drop, it is,

525
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Speaker 1: But like all of those drops count in like just

526
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Speaker 1: kind of prolonging this this point until we get to

527
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Speaker 1: peak oil. Alternative energy UM investments are up. It's like

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Speaker 1: we're doing all this great stuff and as a result,

529
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Speaker 1: all of the people, all these really loud voices that

530
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: had like a real stage in two thousand eight and

531
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Speaker 1: had the ears of a lot of people who were

532
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Speaker 1: um governing at the time. Um these the climate has changed,

533
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Speaker 1: and I wonder if like it was because of a

534
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: lot of these peak oil adherents shouting really loud that

535
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Speaker 1: we have made some concessions. But now I wonder if

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Speaker 1: we're just going to become complacent, right, like, oh well

537
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: we staved it off, we're fine for now, and we're

538
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: just gonna kick it on down the road, because I

539
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of effort going into it. I

540
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: mean not there's some, but certainly not what is needed.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like we're all headed towards the cataclysmic

542
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Speaker 1: like collapse of humanity. Eventually we're all going to turn

543
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Speaker 1: on each other and and ruin ourselves, and the Earth

544
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: will be scorched and empty. May not be anytime soon,

545
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: we're maybe hundreds and hundreds of years from now. Who knows,

546
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Speaker 1: but anyone that thinks that humans on planet Earth or

547
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna be around infinitely forever because we're humans, it's just,

548
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, they're pooling themselves as fool's gold. Nice. How's

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Speaker 1: that for happy? That was perfect. If you wanted to

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Speaker 1: learn more about peak oil, you can type those words

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Speaker 1: into the search bar at how stuff works dot com

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Speaker 1: and will bring up this article. And I said search

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Speaker 1: bar s means it's time for listener mail, Chuck, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna call this where's the orchestra um? This is from

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Speaker 1: Eric Stephens and he is a double bass player principal

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Speaker 1: double bass player in an orchestra near Cologne, Germany. And

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Speaker 1: he listened to the Ben s Alicia about music and emotion,

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Speaker 1: which we got great feedback on. And he says many

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Speaker 1: thanks to Ben, who played another fantastic and inspiring performance.

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Speaker 1: He's a beautiful open way of discussing music. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: agree more. Many thanks to him for mentioning the importance

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Speaker 1: of classical music. It's an art form that, unfortunately two

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Speaker 1: feetle too few people are exposed to now, having a

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Speaker 1: lot to do with its financial and logistical complexities, but

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Speaker 1: nonetheless one of the most powerful and underrated forms of

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Speaker 1: music today, and it has contributed so much to how

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Speaker 1: we in the Western world here proceed of music today.

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Speaker 1: I would really love it if you guys could get

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Speaker 1: out and hear another performance sometime. Even more so if

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Speaker 1: you encourage s Y s K listeners to get out

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Speaker 1: and experience and support their local orchestras. Um. It is

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Speaker 1: difficult time for orchestras right now, and has been mentioned

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Speaker 1: many are being forced to downsize or fold altogether. This

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Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why I've ended up in Germany,

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Speaker 1: which still heavily supports many orchestras with state financing and media.

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Speaker 1: The appreciation is very deeply rooted in the culture out here,

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Speaker 1: and while it's a slightly different situation in the States.

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Speaker 1: I want to remind people that classical music is not

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Speaker 1: exclusive unless you make it so. And I would go

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Speaker 1: on to even point out that he means orchestral music.

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Speaker 1: Classical is a period of time. Oh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: way to correct him. He probably doesn't appreciate that. Um,

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Speaker 1: it is not exclusive unless you make it so. So

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Speaker 1: you don't need to have a tuxedo or a deep

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Speaker 1: musical education to appreciate the extreme beauty and the importance

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Speaker 1: of it. Couldn't agree more. Please give it a chance,

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00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: He'll keep it alive. And uh, that is very good advice.

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Speaker 1: Support your local orchestra. I guarantee you whatever town you

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Speaker 1: live in, unless you're in some really backward Kansas Field town,

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Speaker 1: you probably got an orchestra. Even if it's a smallest town,

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Speaker 1: you might am an orchestra. Yeah, if you're in a

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Speaker 1: big city, you definitely have an orchestra. Yes, go out

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Speaker 1: and see. It's usually pretty cheap. Um, it's not like

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Speaker 1: paying for you know, sixty bucks to go see Jack

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Speaker 1: White make noise. I like Jack lydextra, but he's charging

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Speaker 1: too much. Sixty bucks ahead. Yeah, when he played that,

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Speaker 1: he got that rack. Rock and tours fan together tickets

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Speaker 1: for like sixty or seventy by bucks. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: for one album of material for a lot anyway. Um,

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Speaker 1: thank you for all the years of explaining the world

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Speaker 1: through fantastic podcast. I hope for many years to come

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Speaker 1: to hear these. When I drink my delicious colch beer tonight,

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Speaker 1: I'll roast you guys, he says Sheera Grusa. I'll call

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Speaker 1: own Eric Stephen's thanks a lot. Stephens appreciate that orchestra.

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Speaker 1: I'm in favor of encouraging our listeners to go out

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Speaker 1: to an orchestra. We got a good one a specific

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Speaker 1: day where all stuff you should know, listeners go out

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Speaker 1: to the orchestra. Well, I don't think you can count

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Speaker 1: on an orchestras playing on that day in every town

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Speaker 1: and arts. Well, let's find out about it. Let's find

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Speaker 1: out all right, let's even get that together, like like, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we can make that happen. But maybe

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Speaker 1: there's a day when the orchestras typically play like traditionally speaking,

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Speaker 1: Or how about like this winter season, make a commitment

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Speaker 1: to go out because you're gonna be darn sure that

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Speaker 1: building orchestra playing some sort of Christmas classical concertos. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's it. You you have to go out and see

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Speaker 1: an orchestra this winter. Yeah, but don't. No, Cracker is

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Speaker 1: not bad depending on where you see it. I like

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Speaker 1: it's a little doll really thinks huh oh for me? Sure,

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Speaker 1: there's like giant soldier and a huge there's a rat

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00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: that hits people with this. There's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: going on. Um, well, what do you like to go see?

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Speaker 1: You see Christmas Carol? No, I mean I don't do

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Speaker 1: any of that stuff. I see I see Jack White

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Speaker 1: and complain. Um, let's see if you have a favorite

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Speaker 1: band you'd like to see that you think Chuck and

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00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: I should see, or a performance of some sort uh,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Nutcracker or Jack White or whatever. Well, we've

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Speaker 1: already covered this too, so you should probably leave them alone. Um,

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