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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear that both the next time the job the

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Speaker 4: cook Duffy at Brett Beers.

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Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Your boy's hurting penfale, not going to sugarcoat it today.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna hear a lot of Kenny Florian's voice this week,

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Speaker 6: by the way, because he was in Stockholm, Suiten. When

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Speaker 6: Connor McGregor made his UFC debut April sixth, twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 6: you probably remember it well, flow.

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Speaker 7: I do I do? You know?

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Speaker 8: I had heard about Connor prior to that, and I

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Speaker 8: was looking forward to seeing how he was going to

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Speaker 8: compete in his debut and man that he delivered.

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Speaker 6: You did a great job, and in large part, I think,

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Speaker 6: in some part I should say, because you knew that

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Speaker 6: there was hype, right like you were locked into that fact.

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Speaker 6: And our whole preparation process as commentators for the UFC

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Speaker 6: has changed so much since twenty thirteen, when we didn't

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Speaker 6: have a pronunciation guide or we didn't have time with

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Speaker 6: the athletes. But do you remember why I was pulled

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Speaker 6: from that show? Do you remember? I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 6: So my wife was due with my second daughter, Tatum,

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Speaker 6: on April twenty second, twenty thirteen. Okay. If I had

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Speaker 6: known that Connor McGregor was gonna go on to become

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Speaker 6: the biggest superstar in UFC history, I would have said,

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Speaker 6: I'll be back if you put you. I'm not pushing

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Speaker 6: out the baby. You know, Cody, what do you have?

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Speaker 6: Or you're not liking this. I'm saying you're not gonna

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Speaker 6: like it when you get home. If all this is doing, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's okay. She does not listen to the Anaic and

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Speaker 6: Floran podcast. She did throw my children in front of

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Speaker 6: ABC last night at three pm Eastern and sent me

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Speaker 6: the video. My son Hunter's probably like what is going on?

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Speaker 6: Like why is my dad there and not here? But

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Speaker 6: it was very cute to see my daughters like take

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Speaker 6: their iPad up to the TV to try to record

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Speaker 6: it to show their friends. All right, deep breath, good

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Speaker 6: to be with you. Sunday, January seventeenth, episode two eighty

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Speaker 6: four of the Ankin Flooring Podcast and flow maybe one

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Speaker 6: of the biggest episodes we've done in the six year

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Speaker 6: history of this show. It kind of feels that way

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Speaker 6: when Connor McGregor is fighting, but also because last night

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Speaker 6: was truly epic. It was the first UFC fight night

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Speaker 6: on ABC, and that is where we begin headlines and

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Speaker 6: before we get into any superlatives and trying to put

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Speaker 6: this singular performance of Max Holloway's in context. Kenny, I

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Speaker 6: just want your thoughts on the fight. You like this

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Speaker 6: matchup quite a bit for Max Holloway. You picked him

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Speaker 6: to win by decision. He was dominant, He was better

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Speaker 6: than ever. What did you think of Max Blessed Holloway

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Speaker 6: over those twenty five minutes against Calvin Cater.

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Speaker 8: You know, he just drastically exposed the lack of footwork

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Speaker 8: from Cater. You know, Cater's a very dangerous guy when

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Speaker 8: he's able to plant his feet and if you're in

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Speaker 8: fart of him, Cater's gonna mess you up. The dude

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Speaker 8: can rock. Max Holloway's footwork, his ability to get in

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Speaker 7: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 8: It only got better as the fight went on. You know,

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Speaker 8: once he gets into his rhythm. Dude, it's gonna be

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Speaker 8: extremely difficult to disrupt and stop that momentum that Max

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Speaker 8: Holloway can create out there. Uh. And again, you know, listen,

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Speaker 8: everyone was talking about experience, and you know Cater has

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Speaker 8: is a big difference. It's the only thing that Trump's experience.

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Speaker 8: And when you fight at a when you fight at

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Speaker 7: It's just a whole different uh, you know, cut up

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Speaker 8: And I think that for Max Holloway, he thrives during

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Speaker 8: those conditions. And again, if we look at Max Holloway

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Speaker 8: and all the title fights that he's had and all

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Speaker 8: the big fights from you know, defeating Jose Aldough not

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Speaker 8: and having seventeen fights in the UFC at featherweight and

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Speaker 8: wining sorry I should say seventeen wins at featherweight in

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Speaker 8: to deal with. And Void and Max Holloway completely use everything.

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Speaker 8: Not to mention and you talked about this before, but

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Speaker 6: Most featherweight wins in the combined history of the UFC

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Speaker 6: and the WEC Joseada with eighteen, but Holloway has seventeen,

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Speaker 6: and all of those are in the UFC. You know,

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Speaker 6: a lot of those featherweight wins for Joseaudo did come

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Speaker 6: defenses than Max Holloway has. But of course the two

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Speaker 6: head to head wins for Holloway, uh, certainly a feather

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Speaker 6: of all time. Conversation, But one thing that was really

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Speaker 6: alarming for me on the Cater side was that he

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Speaker 6: I think because he has been able to get some

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Speaker 6: scorecards don't factor into the equation at night's end, or

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Speaker 6: excuse me, the statistics, as you say, don't factor into

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Speaker 6: the equation. But what would you say about Cater defensively?

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Speaker 6: It seemed to me like he was kind of backing

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Speaker 6: able last night. And I don't want to take any

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Speaker 6: credit away for Max, but what would you say defensively

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Speaker 8: Right, Well, you already identified one of those things that

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Speaker 8: you know you can't just attack and defend in straight lines,

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Speaker 8: especially against a very versatile and danger striker like Max Holloway.

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Speaker 8: He's going to corral you and he's going to get

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Speaker 8: and that's exactly what he did. And I think with

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Speaker 8: lot of people thought that Cater would be able to

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Speaker 7: You got to move your feet.

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Speaker 8: You got him your feet, You've got to get angles,

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Speaker 8: And backing yourself up against the fence is never a

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Speaker 6: You're the rational guy on this show. I'm the guy

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Speaker 6: pound for pound king when probably we shouldn't even be

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Speaker 6: having that conversation. But I'm going to take you back

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Speaker 6: to August third, twenty nineteen, at the Prudential Center in Newark,

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Speaker 6: New Jersey. Dominic Cruz and I are walking out of

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Speaker 6: that arena after Colby Covington put it on Robbie Lawler.

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Speaker 6: Not only did he throw almost five hundred and fifty

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Speaker 6: strikes Kenny, but I think he attempted twenty takedowns. And

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Speaker 6: I was just blown away by the offensive output to

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Speaker 6: most impressive performance I had ever seen in person in

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Speaker 6: my life, and this took that to a new level.

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Speaker 6: Right Max threw over one hundred and fifty more strikes,

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Speaker 6: or over almost two hundred more strikes than Colby Covington did.

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Speaker 6: He attempted over seven hundred strikes, and I'm not sitting

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Speaker 6: here asking you to compare this performance necessarily to Connor

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Speaker 6: McGregor versus Eddie Alvarez, which I was not in the

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Speaker 6: had a lot of really dominant twenty five minute efforts

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Speaker 6: for a half hour. I've never had that type of

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Speaker 6: overwhelming emotion after a fight. That was the greatest singular

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Speaker 8: Oh, it was definitely one of the best performances that

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Speaker 8: think that Max Holloway raised himself to a different level

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Speaker 8: that night, and I think we're seeing more and more

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Speaker 8: of what he can do. I think that anytime you

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Speaker 8: get your head scratched and going, who is this guy?

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Speaker 8: What is this guy made of? Halloway is something special?

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Speaker 8: He always has been.

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Speaker 7: In my mind. I think he's still the champion.

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Speaker 8: And this is no disrespect to Alexander Volkanowski, who is

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Speaker 8: I'll say on Twitter yesterday that is the best featherweight

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Speaker 7: That does not mean that Volkanowski is not a great fighter.

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Speaker 8: That does not take away from Connor McGregor's win that

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Speaker 7: In the day.

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Speaker 8: But this is a guy in Max Holloway, who is

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Speaker 8: consistently getting better, who is consistently adding weapons to his arsenal,

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Speaker 8: and is showing it on fight night, you know what

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Speaker 8: I mean. It's like you get these guys in training, like, oh,

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Speaker 8: they talk about this guy, he's so amazing in training.

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Speaker 7: He can do this and that, but you don't see

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Speaker 8: Max Holloway has the ability to know to really show

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Speaker 8: all of his skills on fight night. I mean, he's

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Speaker 8: looking away, he's not even looking at Cater and he's

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Speaker 8: landing left hands and jabs and he's talking. I mean again,

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Speaker 8: maybe that was a little whiskey, right, but this is

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Speaker 8: kind of take away from a lot of people's performances.

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Speaker 8: But Max Holloway just seems to zone in, unlike a

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Speaker 8: lot of guys. The Diaz brothers, you can say they

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Speaker 8: do the same, but Max Holloway is really something special.

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Speaker 2: In that regard.

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Speaker 6: I think you put that well and for Ryland, Lazarres

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Speaker 6: and all these coaches criminally underappreciated doesn't even begin to

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Speaker 6: describe it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: It's never about me. It's always about us with those guys.

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Speaker 6: And if you go to my Instagram page, I laid

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Speaker 6: out all the UFC records that Max Holloway just shattered

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Speaker 6: total strikes attempted seven hundred and forty six, previous record

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Speaker 6: five forty one. Just absolutely insane output over twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 6: And Kenny, it's interesting because I remember when I think

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Speaker 6: you and Michael Bisping are hosting UFC Tonight a few

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Speaker 6: years ago and Halloway's unable to fight at Beibanmago Medov

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Speaker 6: might be done. You know, he's absorbed some trauma and

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Speaker 6: the weightcuts and everything else. Look at him now, right,

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Speaker 6: one of the greatest fighters in UFC history.

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Speaker 6: But I do believe that that fight should have been

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Speaker 7: Two more rounds of that? Three more rounds of that?

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Speaker 7: When that's happening.

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Speaker 8: Especially it seemed like he caught his feet again, it

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Speaker 6: if a guy is literally mid combination landing and you

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Speaker 7: There's no question.

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Speaker 8: And you look at everything that Max Holloway has done,

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Speaker 6: Three successful title defenses for Max Holloway in his first run.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why I'm bringing this up now. He comes

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Speaker 8: Tell hey, listen, we got to try things out every

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Speaker 6: But you know, then I said sorry that he said

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. He's a straight shooter, though. You gotta respect that.

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Speaker 6: In terms of what's next for Max Holloway, I mean,

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Speaker 8: It would be an absolute travesty if that wasn't the case.

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Speaker 8: He's got the look. I get it, you know, the

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Speaker 8: Know how that goes against another resisting fighter. Who's throwing

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Speaker 8: back at you. The guy is special. He deserves all

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Speaker 7: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Max is the congratulations to Max Less Holloway Moron Max

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Speaker 6: For me and Kenny, I just think he has gotten

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Speaker 6: comfortable in those wrestling situations. You know, as we talked

435
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Speaker 6: about in our post fight interview, his coach Ricky Londell

436
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Speaker 6: deserves a lot of credit. But some offensive wrestling, some

437
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Speaker 6: good defensive wrestling. And when you think about where this

438
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Speaker 6: guy was with a four I think actually five fight

439
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Speaker 6: losing streak. To come to Fight Island now twice in

440
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Speaker 6: four months and get two wins, Carlos Kndit's got a

441
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Speaker 6: new lease on his professional life.

442
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Speaker 7: No, definitely, listen.

443
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Speaker 8: I think he did a great job of reversing the

444
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Speaker 8: position against Matt Brown. I think he largely kept Matt

445
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Speaker 8: Brown pretty defensive even when he was on his back.

446
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Speaker 8: So I think Carlos did a pretty solid job. I

447
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Speaker 8: think it takes him a little bit to warm up

448
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Speaker 8: a bit. I didn't agree with the unanimous thirty twenty seven.

449
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Speaker 8: I did think that map Brown won that first round.

450
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Speaker 8: I don't know exactly what the judges were looking at.

451
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Speaker 8: I mean after the fight were like, huh.

452
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Speaker 6: Like it was like, oh, Matt, you the defence cut

453
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Speaker 6: your forehead open while you were executing a takedown. So

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Speaker 6: I give Carlos the round, Like what the fuck are

455
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Speaker 6: you watching?

456
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Speaker 8: What are you watching exactly? I don't understand. I don't

457
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Speaker 8: understand it. But okay, the right guy won.

458
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Speaker 7: Okay, I get it.

459
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Speaker 2: But it was a close fight.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't it wasn't a runaway fight.

461
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Speaker 8: But yeah, so anyways, you know, these were two veterans

462
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Speaker 8: that I think were matched up appropriately. This is excellent matchmaking.

463
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Speaker 8: This is the fight that obviously was supposed to happen

464
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Speaker 8: before a couple of times I think, and the fact

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Speaker 8: that it happened and Carlos condit was able to get

466
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Speaker 8: a win and his second win in a row now

467
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Speaker 8: in the UFC.

468
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Speaker 7: It's great to see because Carlos. Carlos is a stud man.

469
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Speaker 7: It's amazing. This guy has been fighting forever.

470
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Speaker 8: He's been fighting around on this uh you know when

471
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Speaker 8: I was and and Matt Brown was as well. They've

472
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Speaker 8: been active ever since. And to see these two warriors

473
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Speaker 8: go out, it was pretty cool. And Carlos condit definitely

474
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 8: showed some improvement off of his back, getting those switches

475
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Speaker 8: to reverse the situation against.

476
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Speaker 7: Matt Brown, and yeah, I thought it was.

477
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Speaker 8: It was great to see Carlos get back, you know,

478
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Speaker 8: to get some consistency back.

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Speaker 6: He's been around forever. I was reminiscing actually with our

480
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Speaker 6: producer Zach Candido, who used to work with me on

481
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Speaker 6: MMA Live, Kenny, because when I did bellatour season one,

482
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Speaker 6: episode one in April of two thousand and nine, and

483
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Speaker 6: you guys were back in Bristol doing MMA Live, I

484
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 6: forget how it went down, but they needed me to

485
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Speaker 6: voice a highlight of Carlos Conda's UFC debut against Martin Campman.

486
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Speaker 6: And I had to voice the highlight from my hotel

487
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Speaker 6: room in Oklahoma or wherever we were at that time,

488
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Speaker 6: and we were just reminiscing about that. But you know what,

489
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Speaker 6: Carlos conducts UFC record was walking in there this weekend No.

490
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Speaker 6: Eight and nine, so he is now five hundred nine

491
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Speaker 6: to nine in the UFC. And you may have heard

492
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Speaker 6: Dan Hardy Savescente Luke as a possible opponent after the fact,

493
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Speaker 6: and the reason he did so. I know you're cringing,

494
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 6: but the reason he did so and maybe why Carlos

495
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Speaker 6: decided not to do so on an open mic, so

496
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Speaker 6: full disclosure. In our Fighter meeting, we asked Carlos about

497
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Speaker 6: any names that would be intriguing to him, and he

498
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 6: mentioned the Vicente Luke fight. But maybe after going through

499
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 6: those fifteen minutes, he said, you know what, maybe at

500
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 6: this stage biting off a little bit more than I

501
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 6: can chew right now. So that's why that was the

502
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Speaker 6: name on the tip of Dan Hardy's tongue. But we

503
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Speaker 6: congratulate one of the true fan favorites and good eggs

504
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 6: out there. Carlos condit, how about the leach Lee Jinglyong.

505
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 6: I mean, you want to talk about affable good eggs.

506
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 6: I love this guy. I think we'd be best friends

507
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Speaker 6: if I spoke Chinese. And people are banging on me

508
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 6: for like nodding my head when he's taught. But he's

509
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 6: looking at me, he's talking to me in Chinese, So

510
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 6: what am I supposed to do? Just be like, hey man,

511
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Speaker 6: I don't know what you're saying.

512
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Speaker 2: Why are you looking at me?

513
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Speaker 6: Like I'm like, yeah, I'm just not pretending that I

514
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 6: know what he's saying. But what a win for the

515
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 6: Leech can flow. Seven welterweight knockouts in the UFC for

516
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Speaker 6: Lee Jing Liong A few bigger than this one over

517
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Speaker 6: Santiago Ponzanibio. A lot to unpack on this fight. Ponzinibio

518
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Speaker 6: goes over to Dana White after the fact, I think

519
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 6: he was still maybe concussed, and he starts shaking his

520
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 6: finger and it was like, so after after the fight,

521
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 6: I'm talking to DC and DC's saying he went over

522
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 6: there as if to say, like, no, Dana, that doesn't count.

523
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 6: I mean out there, that doesn't count. We'll do that

524
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 6: again like next weekend or something. But what were your

525
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 6: thoughts on the featured about there between the Leech and

526
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Speaker 6: uh the artist formerly known as genci Boa.

527
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Speaker 7: That'd be nice. It's like backyard basketball. We're like, no, no, no,

528
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 7: that doesn't count. We're gonna race that. No, no, no, no,

529
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Speaker 7: We're gonna.

530
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Speaker 8: Go back reverses and you know, listen, hey, to your

531
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Speaker 8: to your credit.

532
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Speaker 2: Listen.

533
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Speaker 8: Eight was it they say, like eighty percent of communication

534
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 8: is non verbal John, So here you go there man, okay,

535
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Speaker 8: all right, So anyways I will say this, Uh, you know,

536
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Speaker 8: Potsanibio looked very hesitant. I saw a guy in Legion

537
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Speaker 8: Leong who was, you know, fainting a lot. He was

538
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Speaker 8: a little jittery, which was throwing off pots and Ebio

539
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 8: big time pots. And Ebio looked very hesitant, entering why

540
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Speaker 8: not necessarily because of Legion le Jing Leung's fates, but

541
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Speaker 8: also most don't know how to get in without getting hit.

542
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 7: And and you could see there was a fundamental problem.

543
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 8: With his with his head movement. Instead of ducking under,

544
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 8: he stayed tall. So he landed a nice jab, stayed

545
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 8: tall and went back and went.

546
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Speaker 7: Right into the hook of Leejing Lyung. And man, was

547
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 7: that a hook. I mean it was just placed perfectly.

548
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 7: It was a picture perfect shot and it laid him out.

549
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Speaker 1: Man.

550
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Speaker 7: I mean, there's there's nothing you could say after that.

551
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Speaker 8: I think what Pontinibio was saying was like, hey, listen,

552
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 8: they stopped.

553
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 7: The fight too early.

554
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Speaker 8: I've come back from I've come back from shots like

555
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 8: that before the referees got to give me a chance. Now,

556
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 8: that is kind of true for anyone who saw him

557
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 8: on The Ultimate Fighter. He came back from some of

558
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 8: the most insane fights that I've ever seen. However, he

559
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 8: was out, his legs are not moving, his eyes were

560
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 8: not there. That was absolutely inappropriate finish. Unfortunately, I thought

561
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Speaker 8: Pontinievo was gonna win. I thought he had a lot

562
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Speaker 8: of advantage heading into that. But to me, you got

563
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Speaker 8: a question, Hey, was that ring Russ? Was that hesitancy?

564
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Speaker 8: Because you know, either he had some kind of injury

565
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Speaker 8: heading into.

566
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Speaker 7: That fight, like his lee leg looked a little off.

567
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Speaker 8: I don't know what was going on there. I don't know,

568
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 8: but maybe being away from the out to go and

569
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 8: hurt him there. But I saw Leeging Leong who liked

570
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 8: this matchup. He turned it into a battle. He got

571
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Speaker 8: him into close quarters, and he made Pontinibio pay for it,

572
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 8: and hopefully Santiago learned from that.

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Speaker 6: I think Pontanibio put a lot of pressure on himself

574
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Speaker 6: to make a major statement and try to sort of

575
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Speaker 6: make up for lost time. I also am not sure

576
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Speaker 6: that he didn't underestimate Lee jing Lyong. And if you

577
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 6: saw Lee jing Leong fight Neil Magni in March, you

578
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 6: know it was arguably his worst performance. So I think

579
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Speaker 6: a lot of us maybe should have been of the

580
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 6: belief that Lee was going to really put forth a

581
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 6: good effort here and try to distance himself from that result,

582
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Speaker 6: because he went on a great run, you know, finished

583
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Speaker 6: Elazius Aleski Do Santo's Lee Jinglyong far and away the

584
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Speaker 6: most accomplished Chinese fighter on the men's side in UFC history,

585
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 6: and he certainly set himself up for a big one next.

586
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 6: And you're right in terms of what ponz and Ebo's

587
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 6: mentality was. He kept looking for a replay, trying to

588
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Speaker 6: find one on one of the big screens to see

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Speaker 6: Ray Longo is one of my best friends in the world,

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625
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Speaker 6: jitsu coach just thinks I look awful with a mustache, right,

626
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Speaker 6: And I'm going to full disclosure. I have said at

627
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Speaker 6: times that I don't think your hair looks good. I

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Speaker 6: think you have now gotten past another awkward stage and

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Speaker 6: I actually think it's starting to look good again.

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Speaker 2: Don't get used to it, it's coming off.

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Speaker 5: If these fights were at night, I would have did

632
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Speaker 5: it yesterday because I had the girl in the gym

633
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Speaker 5: and then I said, now I want to go home

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Speaker 5: and watch the fights. So I opted to watch the

635
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Speaker 5: fights instead of getting my haircut. But Popa, what do

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Speaker 5: you say about your Grouchio Mark's eyebrows.

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Speaker 6: I can't do much about the eyebrows, but the mustache.

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Speaker 5: I tell you what, if you shaved those eyebrows in

639
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Speaker 5: your mustache and I cut my hair, who would have

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Speaker 5: more hair on the floor.

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Speaker 6: That's a shot. I mean, you're taking a fucking shot

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Speaker 6: right off the top of the rail. I have often said, though,

643
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Speaker 6: because the eyebrow maintenance is insane. Right, I've never waxed

644
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Speaker 6: my my eyebrow, but it's like I can go to bed,

645
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 6: wake up, I have one eyebrow instead of two, right,

646
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Speaker 6: So I have often said, if I ever got like

647
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Speaker 6: six months off of TV, I would wax them, flush

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Speaker 6: off my face and they to start throwing back casually.

649
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Speaker 5: You know that is so man, I'm jealous. I'm jealous

650
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 5: of your eyebrows.

651
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 6: Thanks. I've had a lot of women compliment my eyebrows

652
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 6: over the years, but didn't help me close the show necessarily.

653
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 6: But they're like, yeah, now.

654
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 5: Now, well you would have closed if your wingman was

655
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: can flow.

656
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, look at these eyebrows. These things

657
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 7: are something special.

658
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: These are you guys?

659
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 7: Are these things dude?

660
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 6: Always? The ladies have always loved here.

661
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 7: I don't know why, but.

662
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 5: That's sophisticating smile and I'm beyond that guy brings into

663
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 5: a room is phenomenal.

664
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 6: What a shot, or that he married a model that

665
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 6: is twenty five years young. So uh so, I will

666
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 6: say though it's good. Is the hair looks right now

667
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 6: with the hat? It didn't look great in your little

668
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 6: mid session with Alja man Sterling. But how is Aljo doing?

669
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: He's coming out guns blaze again. He guns blazing. He

670
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: is that passive aggressive. I don't even know that.

671
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 5: So Aljo, there's a lot of man looking good. No,

672
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 5: to get back to your question. Off to a great start.

673
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 5: It's great to have him back in the gym. Yeah,

674
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: it's just uh fun. We had a really great week

675
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 5: and I just hope he continues and he stays healthy. Man,

676
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 5: he's looking really really good. Love what I'm seeing.

677
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 6: There's a lot of love for you, of course here

678
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: on Fight Island. And one of your biggest fans, I

679
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 6: think is Eric Nickson, who has been working with al

680
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 6: Joe in Las Vegas, and I know he's doing so

681
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 6: with your blessing obviously, Man, he did not have enough

682
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 6: good things to say about al Jo and the way

683
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 6: he's he's really working over some of these elite featherweights

684
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 6: in the gym. So you guys got to be kind

685
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 6: of jumping out of your skin with excitement that this

686
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 6: fight is fastly approaching.

687
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, just let's uh, you know, it's been you know,

688
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: we got canceled one time, and you know he took

689
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 5: him a while to actually even get the fight.

690
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 2: Let's just let's just get in there and do it,

691
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: you know, at this point.

692
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 9: But yeah, no, so far.

693
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: He's on track, and thank you, uh, thanks to Eric.

694
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 5: You know, he's he's been great with Aljoe out in Vegas,

695
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 5: which is always nice to have somebody a trust, right

696
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: he's not you know, he's not you know Piers, so

697
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 5: that that's really great and uh, you know, my schedule

698
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 5: kind of hopefully it won't be that bad so I'll

699
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 5: be able to go out there a little early too,

700
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: so be great. I'm really excited. He's he's off to

701
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: a great start.

702
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

703
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 5: You know, Aljoe sends me those sparring rounds from out there.

704
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: There's some really good guys. You know, before before you know,

705
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 5: the fight got canceled, that he was moving with, so

706
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 5: uh yeah, really good stuff, man, I'm excited and his

707
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 5: head's in the right spot. Uh.

708
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: And man, I'll.

709
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: Tell you what, after a night like last night, who's

710
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 5: not inspired to the fight? Hit the heavy big the

711
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 5: gym's are full today. After watching Max Holloway put on Dude,

712
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 5: I am blown away by what I saw. Just I

713
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 5: really thought Kater's boxing was gonna be able to you know,

714
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: you know steymy the guy, and it just wow, couldn't

715
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 5: be anything but the truth. Man. I almost like the

716
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 5: Cater was almost you know, wrong place at the wrong time.

717
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 5: Because if people want to know what, if people want

718
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: to know what in the zone was, go watch that fight.

719
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: I just can't believe what I was looking at.

720
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 5: It was NonStop and it was non stop even after

721
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 5: the fight, like that guy was just was even in

722
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: a fight. I mean, this was this was this was superhuman.

723
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 5: I think I didn't see it going that way. I

724
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 5: thought it was gonna. I thought he was gonna I

725
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 5: thought it was gonna be more like the Dustin fight,

726
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 5: you know, where he there was a great fight, but

727
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 5: the guy's boxing would uh would have more of an effect.

728
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: But even you know, the guy was like Superman.

729
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 7: He'd get hit.

730
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 5: It didn't even matter like it just that was in

731
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 5: the zone, man, and that was just crazy what I

732
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 5: was looking at.

733
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 8: Right. Conversely, you know, John and I were discussing, you know,

734
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 8: whether they should have stopped the fight or not.

735
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 7: It's tough because Caterer kept fighting back.

736
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 8: But as a coach, as a coach, if you were

737
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 8: if you were coaching cater you were in his corner,

738
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 8: would you have stopped that fight at a certain point.

739
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 8: And I know it's a difficult question, but he was

740
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 8: fighting back, but he was taking a beating throughout that fight.

741
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 7: Well what would you have done?

742
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I think what I would have done is

743
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 5: what I would have said, Listen, you've got the first

744
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 5: two minutes of maybe like round four to show me

745
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 5: like you have to eat. Let's go for it, to

746
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 5: go out on your shield. But you got to go

747
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 5: for it. You can't just sit there and keep taking punches.

748
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

749
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: And I think I would have taken that approach, and

750
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 5: then I probably would have stopped it, but I would

751
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 5: have I would have given the code red and let

752
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 5: me just see you keep going forward, go forward, go

753
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 5: for maybe you know he does have the power to

754
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 5: get to have maybe made a difference, even though on

755
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 5: that night it didn't look like that. But I would

756
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 5: have probably just given him an ultimatum and see if

757
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 5: that could have sparked him to just you know, but

758
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 5: I just think the volume and the variety and the

759
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 5: up and down and the mixing in, you know, with

760
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 5: the kick just was he could not get started, and

761
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 5: then before you know it, you're behind in the punch count,

762
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 5: like eighty punches. This was crazy, This was insult and

763
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 5: you know, like again that's a de kata man. He

764
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 5: just you know, showed his toughness that we knew we had.

765
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 6: Anyway, Yeah, that is a great point about you in

766
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 6: terms of the early deficit. It was like before you blink,

767
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 6: he was just way behind in the fight. Kenny. I

768
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 6: know you have thrown in the towel in your coaching career.

769
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 6: I believe or stop to fight if I'm not mistaken.

770
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 6: Is that not true? And I guess I'm just trying

771
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 6: to turn the question back around on you. No, I

772
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 6: don't know why. I thought maybe for one of those

773
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 6: Kurt Pellegrino fights, but no, he just throw in the towel.

774
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 7: But I have it.

775
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 8: But you know, I think, as I've I guess matured

776
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 8: a little bit, and you know, seen a lot of fights,

777
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 8: and I've seen guys come out of a fight and

778
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 8: never be the same again. It has changed my perspective significantly.

779
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 8: I didn't you know, for me, it was like, don't

780
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 8: even think about stopping the fight. I'm not going to

781
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 8: stop a fight for a dude who wants to keep

782
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 8: on fighting.

783
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 7: And that's that.

784
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 8: And I've changed over the years because you know what,

785
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 8: like you only have one brain, and you hear these

786
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 8: stories and this and that, and you know, you want

787
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 8: someone to be able to function. And when you see

788
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 8: that kind of disparity and skill, you know, I felt

789
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 8: like after that fourth round it should have been considered

790
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 8: at least by by Cater's team.

791
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: But Kenny brings up a great point, John, is that

792
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 5: if you asked me this twenty years ago, I would

793
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 5: have said I wouldn't have stopped the fight. So you're right,

794
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 5: as we evolved, the mature and we get more Danner

795
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: and you've seen more casualties, yet you start one hundred

796
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 5: sense start thinking about let me, let me save the

797
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: longevity of of this guy's life, like and that that's

798
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 5: a I think. So I think that's a really good point.

799
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 5: But like again, so just to compare it twenty years ago,

800
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 5: I would have told you definitely not. Now I would

801
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 5: have said, look, man, let's just because you know the

802
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 5: problem with with Cater is that he does have the

803
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 5: power to get you out of there.

804
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 9: Right.

805
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 5: So you know, if he put it this way, if

806
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 5: that was a guy that never had a knockout in

807
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 5: his life, now I'm stopping to fight, you know.

808
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 9: What, maybe after like the second or third round. But

809
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 9: then you know, you're kind you know, right, but he

810
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 9: does have that shot.

811
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 8: You were kind of waiting for it, and he was

812
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 8: throwing he was throwing back, and you're thinking, maybe he

813
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 8: lands it, right.

814
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 5: I mean to tell you what really the main thing

815
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 5: and that is the way that I'm going to say, Uh,

816
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: Calloway had like a little bit of a reach advantage,

817
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 5: and holy shit, did he used that advantage. Was crazy.

818
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 5: Like you could see even when Calvin was trying to

819
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 5: swing back because he just wasn't there. He was just

820
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 5: far enough out of range not to get it. And man,

821
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I just I'm I'm blown away by that,

822
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 5: I really am. I I could not believe that just

823
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 5: you know, it's funny because you know, I worked with

824
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 5: you know, Aljail Squad that day when Audi got He's

825
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 5: you know, we broke it down. He had holloway and

826
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 5: he said, you know, I think you know he could

827
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 5: use his kicks his wrestling, and I go, yeah, I

828
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 5: think he's gonna want to box with him. That's that's

829
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 5: why I said, I think that's who he is, and

830
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 5: he's gonna give Kita the chance to do whatever he

831
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: does best. And that was part of my reason, right,

832
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 5: And that's what he did. He beat him at his

833
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 5: own game. But it's funny when he was getting in

834
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 5: the ring and then when he was in the octagon.

835
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sorry, I text Alji, I go, man,

836
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 5: this guy looks loose.

837
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: I got. I go like this, I go, I'm starting

838
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: to switch to the other side.

839
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 5: He puts back, laugh out loud because I'm like, wow,

840
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 5: this guy because and you're gonna see something different.

841
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: But look, this guy's had weight cut problems.

842
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 5: He's had problems years ago, not years, but maybe two

843
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 5: or three years, four years where that you know, we

844
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 5: had a medical intervention, had a happen, had a I've

845
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 5: never seen a guy and I'm just saying even losing

846
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 5: the title, losing the dust and you know, getting maybe

847
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 5: mentally out of this whole thing. I'm done with the title.

848
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 5: I just want to fight this guy somehow comes back

849
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 5: and I'm blown away. I really am. I don't know

850
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 5: what I was looking at. It was just a great

851
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 5: super human performance. It was just flawless and freaking NonStop

852
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 5: for five rounds.

853
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 6: I had a lot of face to FaceTime with Max

854
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 6: Holloway this week, so when I started to hear the narrative, ooh,

855
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 6: I didn't love the way he looked on the scale

856
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 6: or after he had weighed in. I'm just like, man,

857
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 6: people have the wrong read on this. With all due respect,

858
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 6: you know, he walks up on the scale and I said,

859
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 6: you know, this is the man around whom this card

860
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 6: was built, future Hall of Famer, And he looks over

861
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 6: He's like, I appreciate all the hype.

862
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 10: Man.

863
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 6: You know, if you're dying up there, you're not engaging

864
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 6: the play by play guy before you get on the scale.

865
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 6: So I thought that was very over blown in terms

866
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 6: of the stoppage Ray, you know, if this is a

867
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 6: three round ring of combat fight, you know, maybe you're

868
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 6: quicker to stop it, right I think pounded by the

869
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 6: stakes that Cater found himself, maybe one went away from

870
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 6: a title shot. Yes, And I also just want to

871
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 6: say to all the slapticks out there who are going

872
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 6: to say, oh, you can't throw in the towel. If

873
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 6: you throw a towel in, the referee has to stop

874
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 6: the fight and they go save the athlete. So yeah,

875
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 6: technically you can't, but you can't. Hey, Ray, Yes, how

876
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 6: about Joaquin Buckley getting the highlight turned around on him

877
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 6: by Alessio to Kurrico. Is there any greater example of

878
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 6: how unforgiving this mm A space is then that Joaquin

879
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 6: Buckley got viraled by Alessio ta Kurriico, who came in

880
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 6: haven't lost three in a row.

881
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 5: I tell you what, you couldn't have said it better unforgiving.

882
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 5: You know, some days you to hammer, some days you're

883
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 5: to nail. You know what? The no, that was crazy?

884
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 5: That look the first off, just getting back to everything,

885
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: you couldn't have had a better me card to.

886
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: ABC for the first time on ABC.

887
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 5: I mean everybody has to agree with that, right, I

888
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 5: mean the show starts off with a knockout. By the

889
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 5: end of this card, I don't even know what that

890
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 5: guy's name is. You know what I'm saying. It was

891
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 5: next it was Eric Spider. You know what a great knockout,

892
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 5: what a you know, good to start the card off.

893
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 5: And then man in the next fight, then the next fight,

894
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, what a great card and

895
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 5: you know what another thing is. And I think it

896
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: was a great tribute to guys that have been around

897
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 5: for for a long time. I thought Carlos Condit never

898
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 5: looked better in his life.

899
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: And you had two guys.

900
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: I thought the matchmaking was phenomenal, two guys that were older.

901
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: But here's the difference. They both wanted to win. I

902
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 5: you know, you don't know who's going in for a

903
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 5: payday anymore. Who just wants to get in, you know,

904
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 5: just you know, uh, check a box off.

905
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

906
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 5: These guys are sending their performance, whatever the terminology is,

907
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 5: mail it in. These guys wanted to win. I thought

908
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 5: it was a great match. And I thought Condent man.

909
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 5: I really thought whoever somebody settled him down. I thought

910
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 5: his combos with Chris Bak his wrestling looks bad. I mean,

911
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 5: he's thirty six years old. He looks like he's in

912
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 5: a great spot, this guy I don't know so and

913
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: then Holloway fights and I forget about that fight. You know,

914
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 5: it was one of those nights where who the hell's

915
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 5: getting the bonus?

916
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: Man?

917
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 5: It was what a what a great night for the

918
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 5: UFC and what a great night for ABC.

919
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he could have won any better.

920
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 6: I haven't called a lot of Condit's recent fights. I

921
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 6: know Kenny and I did several early on Kenny and

922
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 6: I actually did a three D broadcast I believe for

923
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 6: his interim championship win over Nick Diaz. We did like

924
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 6: a movie theater broadcast for UFC one forty three back

925
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 6: in the day. And we will get kem CLO's thoughts

926
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 6: on Poonahlee Soriano in a minute. But because this will

927
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 6: likely be our last chance to talk about Max Holloway,

928
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 6: I just want to say sort of been closing, like

929
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 6: you don't go to me for any historical framework, as

930
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 6: I said on ABC last night, But I'm encouraged when

931
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 6: I hear Ray is blown away and Kenny is so

932
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 6: blown away by this performance because Ray, other than when

933
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 6: Colby Covington fought Robbie Lawler with all that offensive output

934
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 6: in New Jersey back in twenty nineteen. I've never had

935
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 6: a harder time sleeping after a main event because I

936
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 6: was just so mesmerized by an athlete's output and performance.

937
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: You know, just well listen, well deserved, man.

938
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 5: I mean the guy, like again, it's it's not even

939
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 5: the performance, it's just where he's at his career and

940
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 5: how many fights he has. He might be twenty nine,

941
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 5: but his fighting age has to be older than that.

942
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: With all the ring time, you know, all the octagon

943
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 5: time and all the rounds he put in and the

944
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: wars he's been in, and you know, this was unreal

945
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: to me.

946
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: It really was not just for a fight.

947
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 5: I'm looking way beyond the fight, just but what he's

948
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 5: like again, if you look at all the things that

949
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: have happened in the past to him, like again with

950
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 5: the metal cool stuff and weight cutting, and I just think,

951
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 5: I don't know that guy. That guy blew me away.

952
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: I didn't think that was even possible. And against a

953
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 5: guy that could fight it, I mean it wasn't you know.

954
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 5: It was against a guy that was up and coming,

955
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 5: that had some great fights deserved to have that shot

956
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 5: at Holloway and.

957
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: Man like again, wrong place at the wrong time.

958
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: Man, that was not the night to be in the

959
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 5: octagon with Max Holloway, and he deserves another shot and

960
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 5: I would never but even with losing twice, how do

961
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 5: you not give him a shot after that?

962
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: You know?

963
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 6: Right? Sorry, I'm trying to send a message to our

964
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 6: handicapper Joe Osborne to see if we can push him

965
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 6: back a little bit. But an incredible night for the

966
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 6: MMA leader on ABC. It was just really cool to

967
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 6: have the fights play out like that because ultimately, as

968
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 6: much as we put into things on the live production side,

969
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 6: we need good fights and we certainly got them. Hey,

970
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 6: Ken Flip putting a bow on it. Poonahelee Soriano against

971
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 6: Douche Go to Dorovich. I just thought you would find

972
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 6: this interesting and then we'll take anything you have on

973
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 6: the fight itself. To Dorovich wants to be the Novak

974
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 6: Djokovic of Serbian MMA. He came in thirteen and oh,

975
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 6: I love the film on him. I loved our fighter meeting.

976
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 6: I really Likedadovich and when Poona Helle Soriano got the

977
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 6: call to fight him, he was intimidated. You know. He

978
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 6: was like, oh, man, right and look two undefeated guys

979
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 6: kicking off a major show like this. But I think

980
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 6: that was a good emotion to have, you know, because

981
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 6: he understands that promotionally, they think he's ready for that

982
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 6: type of challenge, and that's a pretty impressive Hawaiian. There

983
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 6: poona Helle Soriano under Eric Nixic, and he's only getting

984
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 6: better in theory.

985
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 8: You know, Todorovich did great until he did it, and

986
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 8: you know, there was an issue with his stance.

987
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 7: He wasn't so blatan.

988
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 8: If you want to get in a defensive position to

989
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 8: deal with someone who's trying to punch you, you don't

990
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 8: want to be square, and you certainly don't want to

991
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 8: be upright.

992
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 7: You don't have the ability to really move.

993
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 8: If you're not going to move your feet and you

994
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 8: want to just move your head and staying up tall,

995
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 8: it doesn't allow for you to be defensively responsible against

996
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 8: a dude who could especially a dude who could throw

997
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 8: like Soriano.

998
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 7: So he was actually making Soriano miss.

999
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 8: A lot early and then he thought he's like, Okay, cool,

1000
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 8: I can make a miss.

1001
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna keep doing the same thing.

1002
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 8: The problem was is Soriano started at the time him

1003
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 8: started to faint his way in. He realized that he

1004
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 8: was just kind of leaning back like a tall tree

1005
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 8: dealing with the wind, and he ended up throwing a

1006
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 8: shot and dropped him a couple of times. He figured

1007
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 8: out what was happening, Soriano made the right adjustments and

1008
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 8: ended up taking him out.

1009
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 7: And listen, here's the thing.

1010
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 8: I think Todovich from what I saw, is probably the

1011
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 8: better fighter.

1012
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 7: He might be the more skilled.

1013
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 8: Fighter, but it doesn't matter on fight night. It's who

1014
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 8: fights better and who makes the right adjustments. And I

1015
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 8: think Todorovitch really could be a fantastic fighter, but he's

1016
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 8: got to fix his stance and he's got to know

1017
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 8: what means good defense and what doesn't. But Soriano, credit

1018
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 8: to him, man, he could. He really has a lot

1019
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 8: of pop in his punches. And that was that was

1020
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 8: an excellent win against another very good, undefeated fighter.

1021
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 6: So, Ray, what do you have going on the rest

1022
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 6: of the day, my friend, We're gonna cut the lettuce.

1023
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 6: We are not going to ingest any playoff football in

1024
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 6: the NFL. It's only the greatest thing on TV today.

1025
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 6: But I understand that will not be a part of

1026
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 6: your sunny What do you got going on the rest

1027
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 6: of the day.

1028
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna chill out.

1029
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 5: I'm going to hit the gym probably about three uh

1030
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 5: gable to work out with a couple of guys.

1031
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: Uh And that's going to be a nice, mellow day

1032
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: for me. I love it.

1033
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 6: You know, somebody on the ground here suggested you as

1034
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 6: a pothead. I said, right, doesn't smoke weed. You got

1035
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 6: him mixed up with with that Sarah cat. Baby.

1036
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: You know I can't have this conversation in my living room.

1037
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 6: Are your daughter's home or no?

1038
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: Everybody's home?

1039
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 6: Oh, everybody's home? And whose hair is longest?

1040
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: Oh?

1041
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, mine?

1042
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: I forget about the pot what about? You know what

1043
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 2: I love to on ABC?

1044
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 5: When they went back to Coach l and Muhammad Ali,

1045
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 5: what great interactions. And you know, I wasn't a big

1046
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 5: Ali fan back then, but man, did I grow to

1047
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 5: love this guy. Man, he really had something to say.

1048
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: He was a man of conviction. You know, he held

1049
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 5: to his beliefs till the day he died. And what

1050
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 5: what was? It was great?

1051
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: I was just watching that old stuff.

1052
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 5: I don't even know if you guys remember that, but

1053
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 5: that's really what I grew up on, was, you know,

1054
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 5: wild world of sports like we talked about last week,

1055
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 5: you know, and I'd like that, Dana.

1056
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: You know they put the commercial in with you know.

1057
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 5: People from different places, but fightings in your DNA and

1058
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 5: all of that stuff. And you know, Kenny, you know,

1059
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 5: what's not your DNA being told to take out the garbage?

1060
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: That's not I know, you know, tell me about you.

1061
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 5: You know, I look in at the DNA playbook, Man,

1062
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 5: I didn't see that, but uh, that's not your DNA

1063
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 5: fighting it.

1064
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: That's in your DNA. But I don't know whatever.

1065
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 7: Trash trash kids can take a beating too.

1066
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter what we know martial arts schedule, I

1067
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 8: still got to take out the trash?

1068
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: Where is that in the DNA playbook anywhere? John?

1069
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 6: See? I know I'm forty two because I look forward

1070
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 6: to trash Day like I'm excited to get out and

1071
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 6: fucking wheel the thing to the car.

1072
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 5: I forget, honestly forget, and I get you know, yeah,

1073
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 5: emasculated for it well.

1074
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 6: On social media. It is at ray Longo m m A.

1075
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 6: And we look forward to the haircut and the Alga

1076
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 6: man sterling noise and everything else. And uh, we will

1077
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 6: talk to you next Sunday or Monday when I get

1078
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 6: back to the United States of America.

1079
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 5: All right, buddy in the shout out to my man

1080
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 5: the steamroller, big fight. Oh shit, I forgot you guys

1081
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 5: tried to come on. Don't screw the steamroller they got.

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Speaker 6: It's on my goddamn script. It's the first thing. It's

1083
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Speaker 6: the first thing.

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Speaker 5: The kid's a great kid. Big shout out to his

1085
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 5: old man, Big Sal. You know, Sally Walnuts. You can't

1086
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: beat this family man pulling for him. He looked great

1087
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 5: before he left, and I, you know, I got sick

1088
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 5: for a couple of weeks, so I got to I

1089
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 5: was out of touch. But when he left he looked great.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure they did a great job with him in Florida.

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Speaker 5: So I look forward to that fight. Man, he's going

1092
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: to bring it like he always does. And hoping for

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00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 5: big things.

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Speaker 2: For this kid.

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Speaker 6: Great great pay per view matchup against ottoman A. Zetar

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Speaker 6: will get a quick pick prediction from Ken Flow later

1097
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Speaker 6: in the show. But yeah, you got Matt the steamroller

1098
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 6: for Vola, his dad Sal the bulldozer for Vola. I

1099
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Speaker 6: keept behind all of that. All right, buddy, have a

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Speaker 6: have a great Sunday. Best to the family and we

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Speaker 6: will talk to you next Monday.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, guys.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy it is a very longer minute every week on

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Speaker 6: the Annik and Florian Podcast. All right, rest of the

1105
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 6: show is going to be devoted to predictions. Let us

1106
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 6: get to the main event challenge. It's the main event challenge.

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Speaker 2: Everything Foss will do.

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Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge. Johnnick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 6: So you can't see our produce Cody Merrow, but the

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00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 6: eyes he gives me when my Abu Dhabi Wi Fi

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00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 6: starts to like flicker a little bit. The dude is

1112
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 6: six three looks at me like wants to fucking kill me. Thankfully,

1113
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 6: Ian Parker thinks a little bit more highly of me.

1114
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 6: He now joins us Live. He is the duck on

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Speaker 6: social media. Ian Parker Mma and thanks to our intern

1116
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 6: Casey Williams doing a great job with the scoreboard spreadsheet.

1117
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 6: Didn't have a lot to update. Boys. You both went

1118
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 6: one and four to begin the twenty twenty one slay.

1119
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 6: It wasn't a good night for the favorites. I can

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Speaker 6: understand why you would back Santiago Ponzinibio, for example, but

1121
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 6: three to three is the score because you did both

1122
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 6: have Max Holloway to win by decision. So we moved along.

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Speaker 6: Now we have got two fight cards this week, a

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Speaker 6: ton of picks to make. There are going to be

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Speaker 6: two live events before we are back on the air

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00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 6: on this podcast. So let us begin UFC fight Nike

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00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 6: Yes versus Magni, and then we'll get to two fifty

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Speaker 6: seven Poor Ya v McGregor. Two three picks Ian on

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Speaker 6: this first card will begin with the main card opener.

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Speaker 6: It's at featherweight Laron Murphy. I put this fight on

1131
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 6: here because I love this kid, certainly as the respect

1132
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 6: of the odds makers as well. Honest two eighty the

1133
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 6: favorite here against the plus two forty underdog Douglas Silva Dionrage.

1134
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 6: Mister Parker, who do you have.

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00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 9: Give me Laron Murphy in this. I agree.

1137
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 10: I think we got a nice little prospect here, and

1138
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 10: I think this is a good name to get on

1139
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 10: his resume for the win.

1140
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 6: So kem Flow Silva Diondrage moved up to one hundred

1141
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 6: and forty five pounds for his last fight he beat

1142
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 6: Hen and Barrow. I just thought Murphy looked like a

1143
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 6: world beater. In stopping Ricardo Hiccardohamos on Fight Island in July.

1144
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 6: He's nine oh one. What do you think about Murphy

1145
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 6: here against the Brazilian Yeah, listen.

1146
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 8: I think Murphy has some good striking and just a

1147
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 8: pretty solid overall game from what we've seen so far,

1148
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 8: and beating Ricardo Ramos I think is no easy task.

1149
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 8: I think that Ramos gets a little bit wild. I

1150
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 8: think Silva de Andrage gets a little bit wild at times,

1151
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 8: and I think it is a perfect matchup for him

1152
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 8: to kind of show that he's the cleaner striker, the

1153
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 8: more capable fighter.

1154
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 6: And Mann does he have a good frame for that

1155
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 6: featherweight division? All right, comine event in weltz Waite muonear

1156
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 6: Lozez minus two twenty versus Warley Alves plus one eighty.

1157
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 6: We will need the round and the method of victory here.

1158
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 6: So Lazz was pretty impressive on Fight Island. He's local

1159
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 6: to the region, lives in Dubai here in the United

1160
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 6: Arab Emirates. Huge UFC debut came against abdulra Zach al Haassen.

1161
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 6: Now he draws the eleven time UFC veteran Warley Alvez

1162
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 6: ip talk to me, kid, who do you like?

1163
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 9: Well, look, Alvez is no joke.

1164
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 10: He has fought a lot of top guys and whenever

1165
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 10: people count.

1166
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 9: Him out, he tends to rise to the occasion.

1167
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 10: However, Lazz showed us something in that last fight against

1168
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 10: the guy Hasan that we didn't really think it was

1169
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 10: gonna happen that quick.

1170
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 9: I think he wins here.

1171
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 10: I think this is a good I think it's a

1172
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 10: good test, a good build. I think he's gonna finish

1173
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 10: Warley Alviz in the second round by TKO.

1174
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 6: Round two TKO for Mooniar Lozez, Kenny, you and I

1175
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 6: called many of Warley Alvas's early UFC fights. To Ian's point,

1176
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 6: he's been in there with kamar Usman. He did have

1177
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 6: that win over Colby Covington back in the day, but

1178
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 6: entering this one off a lost to Randy and that

1179
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 6: was all the way back in twenty nineteen. So a

1180
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 6: layoff and a tough proposition in Moon near Lizez talk

1181
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 6: to me on the Komen.

1182
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 8: Well, listen, I think if w Ley Olivas is smart,

1183
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 8: he's going to try to take this fight.

1184
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 7: To the ground.

1185
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 8: You know, we don't know exactly what Lizz can do

1186
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 8: especially off of his back. I think that would be

1187
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 8: the easiest path to victory. We don't always see that

1188
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 8: executed by a lot of mixed martial arts fighters. Bravado

1189
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 8: comes into play a lot of times. But I do

1190
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 8: think that Lizez is a very dangerous striker with a

1191
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 8: lot of different tools, and if he's able to keep

1192
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 8: the fight standing, I do think that he will get

1193
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 8: the win and get a stoppage.

1194
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 7: Over all this, I'm gonna go with Lizez.

1195
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 6: Here, you got a round for me? With that stoppage, brother,

1196
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 6: let's go with Let's go round one outstanding. I hate

1197
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 6: when y'all do the same fucking round if I'm being honest. Yeah,

1198
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 6: and I'm not calling these fights by the way, I know.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 6: That's why I'm glad he chose round one. And if

1201
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 6: I don't, you know, Casey Williams is going to track

1202
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 6: that shit because he's the mathematician. But for the first time,

1203
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 6: I just as an aside since Domina Cruz fought Cody Garbrandt,

1204
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 6: I am going to be in the arena this Wednesday

1205
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 6: night and not calling fights for the first time since

1206
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, So I'm gonna be able to text you boys.

1207
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 6: So I'm excited for these particular selections because I'm actually

1208
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 6: just going to be a fan until I host the

1209
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 6: post show after the fact. All right, main event, Ken

1210
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 6: Flow is going to lead us here. Neil Magni minus

1211
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 6: won thirty five Michael Kisa plus one point fifteen twenty

1212
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 6: fourth UFC start for Neil Magni, and once again he's

1213
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 6: got a long winning streak. In to this guy's incredible

1214
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 6: three in a row five or six overall, Kis has

1215
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 6: also won three in a row and that included a

1216
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 6: win over Hafeel Dosanjos pre Covid in January. Ken Flow

1217
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 6: Main event close on paper, Who wins and how do

1218
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 6: they get it done?

1219
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I see this fight being close as well.

1220
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 8: I think that Kisa compose a lot of problems for Magne,

1221
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 8: especially if he's able to get those.

1222
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 7: Takedowns going early on.

1223
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 8: I think that kind of let us know whether he's

1224
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 8: gonna find the range and find the ability to clinch

1225
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 8: up Neil Magni and take him down. I think that

1226
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 8: Neil Magni does an excellent job because of that long

1227
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 8: reach of establishing that jab and keeping guys on the outside,

1228
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 8: and he has improved his wrestling to the point where

1229
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 8: I don't think it's going to be necessarily easy for

1230
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 8: Kisa to get him down. However, Kisa does most of

1231
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 8: his best work up against the cage, and that's what

1232
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 8: he's gonna have to do. I think it starts and

1233
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 8: ends with Neil Magni's footwork. If Neil can stay in

1234
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 8: the center of the octagon, get that jab moving and

1235
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 8: move laterally in association with that jeb, I think it's

1236
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 8: going to be a long.

1237
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 7: Night for Kisa.

1238
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 8: I think he'll keep Kisa off balance and get the win.

1239
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 8: That's the way I'm seeing it. I see Neil Magni

1240
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 8: getting the win by decision. I don't see a stoppage

1241
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 8: here necessarily, but I think Neil Magni is going to

1242
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 8: do enough to really hurt Kissa, keep him on the outside,

1243
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 8: and I think this is going to kind of let

1244
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 8: us know whether this is a Neil Magni that could

1245
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 8: maybe challenge for the belt in the near future.

1246
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 7: I think he's that good. I also think ks is

1247
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 7: that good.

1248
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 8: If Kis is able to go out there and make

1249
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 8: quick work or make uh make a real relatively easy

1250
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 8: time of taking down Magni consistently. I think Kiss is

1251
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 8: one of those guys that could challenge for the belt

1252
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 8: as well. So I'm really curious about that fight and

1253
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 8: see to see how this one plays out.

1254
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 6: I agree. I think it's a great main event. You

1255
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 6: can see it on ESPN Plus and ESPN. How does

1256
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 6: the duck quack on this one? You liked that, didn't you.

1257
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 6: I got a little smile out of you.

1258
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 9: Yeah he did? You got you got me? And that

1259
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 9: kind of made me.

1260
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 6: Or are you just happy to get a little break

1261
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 6: from the children.

1262
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 10: You had My tail father go like this for like

1263
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 10: a second, you know, can't he missed it. I'll show

1264
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 10: you again it one like this, but yeah.

1265
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 6: He missed it again.

1266
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 7: He was like, I know he did, I know he didn't.

1267
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 9: Wait, oh wait yea. So he laughed twice but didn't

1268
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 9: even look. He just knows. I'm funny. It's great, but

1269
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 9: uh look, I think you know Magnie gets in fine

1270
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 9: the decision as well.

1271
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 10: I actually think this fight is not as close as

1272
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 10: what we think. I think Neil Magni is a little

1273
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 10: bit on a different level than Ks and I'm just

1274
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 10: going based on level of competition, the way these things

1275
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 10: have gone a Diego Sanchez win that was kies to

1276
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 10: figuring out the new weight class.

1277
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 9: Same thing with the RDA fight. I don't think he's.

1278
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 10: Fought someone yet truly in this weight class that will

1279
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 10: pose the problems to Kenny's point, Yes, it does his

1280
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 10: best work against the cage, but Magnie is also very

1281
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 10: good defensively against the cage.

1282
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 9: He's able to really get his range off.

1283
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 10: He gets off the cage really well, throws his knees

1284
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 10: to the body really well, and his cardio is NonStop.

1285
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 10: And Kisai in those last two fights, we did see

1286
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 10: that cardio kind of take a little bit of a

1287
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 10: toll on him. I think Neil Magni gets this by

1288
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 10: the decision. I think after he gets this win, he

1289
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 10: needs a true top three guy to really see if

1290
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 10: Neil Magni is the dark horse of the division that

1291
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 10: I believe he is.

1292
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: All right.

1293
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 6: Nice way to capstone that and we will transition now

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Speaker 6: to UFC two fifty seven Poor Yer versus McGregor two,

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Speaker 6: which goes down three days later live on pay per

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Speaker 6: view timemitting. We will have eight selections on this card

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Speaker 6: for you. First up main card opener Straweight Amanda Heboss

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Speaker 6: BYTUS three ten Marina Hadriguez plus two to fifty five

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Speaker 6: Hadriguez twelve and one with two draws. Forty percent of

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 6: her UFC fights have ended in a draw. Carlos Barza

1301
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 6: took her. Oh and her last fight that was back

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00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 6: in July. He Boss ten and one broke through in

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00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 6: a major way in twenty twenty, of course, highlighted the

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Speaker 6: in and by that bludgeoning of Paige van Zant at

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Speaker 6: UFC two fifty one. Any value on Hadriguez or are

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Speaker 6: you on the he Boss like most of the world.

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Speaker 9: All aboard the He Boss?

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00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Look, I mean, listen, there's value you, I guess,

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00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 10: but I just don't see where she wins. I think

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Speaker 10: he Boss is the real deal. I think she's the superstar.

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Speaker 6: Let's go because see, for you, with a bankroll fatter

1313
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 6: than mine, you're not as scared away by minus three ten, right,

1314
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 6: so for you like so because like for a lot of.

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Speaker 10: People, last night though, that last night should warn a

1316
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Speaker 10: lot of people to doubt the thing strike the thing strategy,

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Speaker 10: because it's very rare that I will do that unless

1318
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Speaker 10: it's a live play. You know, that's when men you

1319
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 10: can kind of lay a little bit more juice, but

1320
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Speaker 10: fights like last night with Ponds and Nibbio.

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Speaker 9: I had the Ponds. I worked on that after.

1322
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 10: I saw how bad I botched that, by the way,

1323
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Speaker 10: I really was pissed at myself. But listen, even with Buckley,

1324
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Speaker 10: Kenny even said that his opponent first round is dangerous.

1325
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Speaker 9: It's hard to lay juice on those guys.

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01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 10: So for Heboss, I just I think there's a different

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Speaker 10: level here.

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Speaker 9: Lay the juice on you, Boss, you're.

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Speaker 6: Good and Ian sort of talking about Santiago Ponds and

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Speaker 6: Ebo and Joaquin Buckley both similarly priced last weekend. But

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Speaker 6: I do think for a lot of betters out there,

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Speaker 6: they see minus three ten and if you're a straight

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01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 6: wager guy like me, you're not going near that. Ken

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Speaker 6: full Amanda, Heboss, Marina Hadriguez got anything for us on that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen.

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Speaker 8: I think Maria Rodriguez is a very good striker. I

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Speaker 8: just think she's too green when it comes to the

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Speaker 8: wrestling and grappling game, and I think that's where he

1339
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 8: Bus is going to expose her. If she's smart, Ririguez

1340
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 8: is going to have a nice reach advantage, and I

1341
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 8: think it might be a little bit challenging for Hebus

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Speaker 8: to get in in the beginning, but once he Bus

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 8: gets that cl with their judo and ju jitsu background,

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Speaker 8: I think she takes to the ground and she finishes

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Speaker 8: it shortly after.

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Speaker 7: So I like Kebas all right.

1347
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Speaker 6: Also on pay per view with the Women, Jojo Calderwood

1348
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Speaker 6: by US won twenty Jessica Eyes the even money underdog

1349
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 6: title eliminator of sorts. I mean it's number six and

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Speaker 6: number seven in the world. They both have lost two

1351
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Speaker 6: of three. I had her title shot didn't go particularly well.

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Speaker 6: I guess if Calderwood can break through here, she'd be

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Speaker 6: in the mix along with the Jessica Andraj's Lord Murphy's

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Speaker 6: of the world trying to close in on Valentina chefchenko

1355
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Speaker 6: Ian close fight on paper. Let's see if we can

1356
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 6: get some dissension here. Who do you have hold on?

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Speaker 9: Let me flip a coin real quick.

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Speaker 6: Right, yeah, or we could have ken flow lead and

1359
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Speaker 6: you could go the other way.

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Speaker 9: Oh no, no, it's fine. You know what.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna go based nine things, speed and I think

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01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 10: the better strike. I'm gonna I'm gonna roll the dice

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Speaker 10: on the other dog.

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Speaker 6: Here and say Jessica I, Kenny, what do you think?

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Speaker 7: This is a tough one for me.

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Speaker 8: I feel like Calderwood just doesn't you up, you know,

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Speaker 8: to the best of her ability.

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Speaker 7: I think she has way better skills than what she shows.

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Speaker 7: If she shows all those.

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Speaker 8: Skills on fight night, I think she wins us, and

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Speaker 8: wins us pretty easily by decision. But Jessica I may

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Speaker 8: not have conversely, may not have the same kind of

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Speaker 8: versatility as a Calderwood, but she does. She's a competitor man.

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Speaker 8: She shows up and she fights hard. I get where

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Speaker 8: Ian is coming from here. I would lean that way,

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01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 8: but I'm gonna go with Calderwood. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 8: be a close fight, but I think she gets it done.

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Speaker 6: That's what we like because now I can sit up

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Speaker 6: on the desk and text y'all. All right, I've had

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Speaker 6: a lightweight Dan Hooker minus one forty Michael Chandler plus

1381
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 6: one twenty for the UFC debut. We will need the

1382
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 6: round and the method of victory, all right. I saw

1383
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 6: Dan Hooker a few days ago. He has been on

1384
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Speaker 6: Fight Island for a while. Chandler's charter was delayed. He's

1385
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 6: not even here yet. Actually, I think he landed as

1386
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 6: we were on the air, so he'll get out of

1387
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 6: quarantine on two. I think if anyone can power through

1388
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Speaker 6: that adversity by just being sound of mind and body,

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Speaker 6: it's Michael Chandler. But ian nonetheless, kind of a tough

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Speaker 6: fight and matchup for a UFC debut. What do you

1391
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Speaker 6: think about Hooker and Chandler under the lights?

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Speaker 9: I like Dan Hooker here. You know.

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Speaker 10: I am a believer that Chandler is a top guy in.

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Speaker 9: The weight class, regardless of organization.

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Speaker 10: I believe that he does deserve to be here, and

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Speaker 10: I think he deserves a fight like this. However, stylistically

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Speaker 10: I don't like it. I think the range of Hooker

1398
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 10: is gonna be a problem. Hooker has fought, in my opinion,

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Speaker 10: better guys recently, as in Dustin Poorrier and fought five

1400
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 10: rounds and fought very well. Took some rounds from Dustin.

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01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 10: It's hard to really gauge where Chandler's going to be

1402
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 10: in this being that his last wins youal of like

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01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 10: a Benson Henderson where we see that's just not where

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01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 10: this level is right now. I think Hooker could win

1405
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 10: this fight by decision. I think if he just doesn't

1406
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 10: get taken down. I think he's the better stand up guy.

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Speaker 10: So I'm going Dan Hooker here, and how oh my god,

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Speaker 10: I said my decision.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Decision decision for Dan Hooker, and he has

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Speaker 6: fifteen minutes just a three round fight. Gonna be interesting

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Speaker 6: if we see some five round comin events here in

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty one? Can flow talk to me? Chandler Hooker?

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Speaker 6: Who do you have?

1414
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Speaker 7: You know?

1415
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Speaker 8: My hesitation with this fight is that sometimes Chandler gets

1416
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 8: involved in these firefights when when he really shouldn't and

1417
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 8: can make the fight a lot easier than it needs

1418
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Speaker 8: to be, especially with that wrestling background.

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Speaker 7: In his ground and pound. He is tough as.

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Speaker 8: Nails, but I don't know if he wants to really

1421
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 8: trade with a longer, lankier, and skillful Dan Hooker. That's

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01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 8: the concern for me. For Chandler, He's as tough as

1423
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 8: they come. He has some serious skills, he's got some power,

1424
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 8: but I think Dan Hooker is kind of poised to

1425
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 8: take this win here. I'm also gonna go by decision,

1426
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Speaker 8: So I'm sorry, John, all right, but I like Dan here.

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Speaker 6: Hooker also on that all Toughness team by the way,

1428
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 6: and I think the amount of punishment that he absorbed

1429
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 6: against both Felder and poor not good for purposes of

1430
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 6: career longevity. But I also think Eugene Barman and the

1431
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 6: coaches were pretty hard on him for those results. I mean,

1432
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Speaker 6: not the Felder fight, I guess, but they were hard

1433
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 6: on him for not being defensively sound in the Poorier fight.

1434
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 6: So we'll see if he makes some changes and shorts

1435
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 6: things up against Michael Chandler. All Right, Main event Connor

1436
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 6: McGregor minus two seventy, Dustin Poorier plus two thirty. I

1437
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 6: flew with Dustin. He's been here a while. Looks like

1438
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 6: Connor is coming maybe from Dubai today. So Connor's one

1439
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 6: and one, as we said, at one hundred and fifty

1440
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 6: five pounds in the UFC. Prevailing wisdom is though, that

1441
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 6: this is his best weight class, and I've always felt

1442
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 6: that eventually he would get in a rhythm schedule wise

1443
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 6: at one hundred and fifty five pounds. So since the

1444
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Speaker 6: first meeting I between these two and twenty fourteen, Poorier

1445
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 6: has produced ten lightweight wins a ton of wars along

1446
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Speaker 6: the way. Definitely a much improved version of the guy.

1447
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Speaker 6: Connor fought then in twenty fourteen, but so is McGregor.

1448
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Speaker 6: The question beckins to what extent has Pourier closed the gap?

1449
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 6: And the masses want to know who do you have?

1450
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 9: So the only thing I disagree with is I don't

1451
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 9: think that.

1452
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 10: Connor is actually that much more of an improved guy

1453
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 10: based on the fights we've seen against you know, guys

1454
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 10: like to be even either with Nate in the first fight.

1455
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 10: I think the biggest difference here is going to be

1456
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 10: Dustin's improvement in the striking, emotionally maturity, way different.

1457
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 9: Than the first one. He wanted to go in there

1458
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 9: and knock off Connor's head. This one he doesn't.

1459
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 10: He just knows how big of an opportunity this is

1460
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 10: for him to get back to the title. Like he said,

1461
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 10: he tasted that interim belt and now he wants the

1462
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 10: real one, and he knows he's got to go through

1463
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 10: Connor McGregor, payday superstar status everything. Dustin is a very

1464
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 10: good grappler, great jiu jitsu fighter. That is a huge

1465
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 10: difference here, as Connor is not the best off his back.

1466
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 10: His takedown defense is gonna be improved a little bit,

1467
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Speaker 10: but we've seen those two fights that he lost.

1468
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Speaker 9: Where does it usually happen on the ground.

1469
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 10: Also, Dustin's cardio is always phenomenal, his output phenomenal. Connor

1470
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 10: struggles in the cardio area. He tends to fade in

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01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 10: the middle to second, get a little burst in the third,

1472
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Speaker 10: gay in the fourth, come back in the fifth. Can't

1473
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 10: do that against Dustin. We've seen Dustin take punishment against

1474
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 10: Dan Hooker in two rounds, come back and deliver in

1475
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 10: sanity in three, four and five staping in the Gaateschee fight.

1476
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 10: The value here, in my opinion, is on a more

1477
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 10: active Dustin Pourier.

1478
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 9: I am gonna go Dustin Pourier.

1479
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Speaker 6: I even wow.

1480
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Speaker 10: Okay, So here's my thing. I know everybody loves Connor.

1481
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 10: I think what Connor has done for.

1482
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 9: The sport is second to none. He brings eyes.

1483
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 10: He's a superstar, no doubt, But fighting as he's just

1484
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 10: super inactive and beating a Donald Seroney who's not the

1485
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 10: Donald Serony that we all love to think about, doesn't show.

1486
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Speaker 9: Me that he has evolved to the point of where

1487
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 9: Dustin has. Dustin's just a.

1488
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 10: Different guy now, and I think that that we will

1489
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 10: see in this fight. The emotions aren't there. Dustin knows

1490
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 10: what he has to do. I'm rolling with the diamond.

1491
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 10: I would love to say he'll finish Connor, but I

1492
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 10: don't want to get too ahead of myself here. I'm

1493
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 10: gonna go Dustin by decision, and I love him. I'm

1494
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 10: actually very surprised that line is this big, to be honest,

1495
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 10: So I like Dustin here in that spot.

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Speaker 6: Kenny a lot to respond to there, and I am

1497
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 6: breathing it in. I do think Kenny, as you know,

1498
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 6: that he is short changing Connor McGregor in terms of

1499
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 6: his evolution and his improvements. I mean, just the way

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01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 6: he beats SERNI I think gives you a lot that

1501
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 6: you can sort of delve into. But what are your

1502
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 6: thoughts on this main event and ultimately who gets it done?

1503
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 7: I think there's no question about that.

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Speaker 8: I think that Dustin Poier is a different guy, but

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01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 8: he's more of a different guy mentally. I think that

1506
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 8: he's become more confident as a fighter and he's getting

1507
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 8: some excellent results because of it. I do think he's

1508
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 8: made some improvements with his boxing, but speed wise, athletic wise,

1509
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 8: I don't think he's at or really that close on

1510
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 8: the level with someone like Econnor McGregor, who I really

1511
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 8: think is an a class athlete. You look at the

1512
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 8: way he moves and the things that he can do

1513
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 8: in there, and the confidence in which he does things.

1514
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 7: I think it's just a different level.

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01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 8: I also think that Ian is vastly underrating h Connor

1516
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 8: McGregor's grappling skills. I think that if you look at

1517
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 8: and again, you know, it doesn't always help to look

1518
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 8: at how the fighter did against this puss, but they

1519
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 8: have a common opponent, and uh and and evenamonga madoff,

1520
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 8: and you look at the way both those guys performed

1521
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 8: and again put into the context of Connor McGregor going

1522
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 8: in there with a broken foot, which I do believe

1523
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 8: because Connor didn't throw any kicks at all in that fight.

1524
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 8: I think we're gonna see Connor McGregor at his best.

1525
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 8: I also think this is going to be one of

1526
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 8: those jaw dropping performances where people go, oh, yeah, Connor's

1527
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 8: a little bit different now, he looks different. And yeah,

1528
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 8: you could say that Donald Sorony isn't the same kind

1529
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 8: of guy, but who goes out there and startes Donald

1530
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 8: soerrony like that?

1531
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 7: In that manner with so many different techniques.

1532
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 8: I think that Connor McGregor in the moment is about

1533
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 8: as creative as it gets. I think he's in the

1534
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 8: top three as far as in the UFC, along with

1535
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 8: Israelisania and Stephen wonder Boy Thompson. And I think that

1536
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 8: he's just been boxing for a heck of a lot

1537
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 8: longer than Dustin Poorier has. So I think that if

1538
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 8: Dustin goes out there and thinks he's gonna bully Connor

1539
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 8: and you know, Utiliza's boxing, or just take him down,

1540
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 8: it's going to be easy takedown. I think he's going

1541
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 8: to be in for a root awakening. I think I

1542
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 8: like con McGregor most likely within ten minutes. I'll go

1543
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 8: with con McGregor round two knockout.

1544
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 6: Really well done, Ken flow and if you listen to

1545
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 6: Kenny breakdown McGregor any and you did a great job

1546
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 6: as well. He just happened to talk last, so I

1547
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 6: was complimenting him there. Don't take that two sensitively, but

1548
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 6: I mean you nailed obviously the round one of the

1549
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 6: McGregor Saroni fight, but nicely done on the main event.

1550
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 6: I want to get a few quick picks on the

1551
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 6: way out main card fight here at Lightweighty and Ottman

1552
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 6: a Zeitar a lot of power minus one fifty five

1553
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 6: the favorite here against Matthew Steamroll of Vola. He comes

1554
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 6: back at plus one thirty five. Ian, Who do you

1555
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 6: have here? I like Ottman, Ken Flow, Ottman Is Zeitar,

1556
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 6: matt Fravola on the quick pick. I think your Mike's muted.

1557
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 6: Maybe not.

1558
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, I hate to go against for Vola here, but

1559
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 8: I do think that Isa Tar has an insane amount

1560
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 8: of power.

1561
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 7: Man, I gotta go with Isa Tar.

1562
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 6: Ken Flow fades anyone with long ago association on the.

1563
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 9: Yes, I hate doing that.

1564
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 8: I just I just think that this is a tough

1565
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 8: matchup for him, man, I really do.

1566
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 7: And I hope for Vola pulls it off.

1567
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,440
Speaker 8: I just think that this guy Otmand's got some serious freaking.

1568
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 6: Popping does Kenny will lead with you on this, Sarah

1569
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 6: McMahon minus one thirty, Juliana Penya plus one ten.

1570
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 8: You know, I think Paina does most of her best

1571
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 8: work on the ground.

1572
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 7: I don't think it's going to happen. I think McMahon

1573
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 7: with the wrestling gets it done.

1574
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 6: In McMahon Penya.

1575
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, Kenny, Kenny said it right on the nose there.

1576
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 9: I'm going to go with this man.

1577
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 6: As well, both like McMahon uh, Brad taboris minus one

1578
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 6: fifty shoe face and Antonio Carlos Junior plus one thirty. Ian,

1579
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 6: you like, beatt your your shoe face there.

1580
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 9: Give me shoe face on this one.

1581
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 6: Please shoe face at plus one thirty. You know, Ian's

1582
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 6: done his homework, but Cody's not letting him give his

1583
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 6: analysis there, Kenny, who do you have?

1584
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 7: I'm going to go the other way with Tavares Cody.

1585
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 6: What's the problem. Man? You were not doing like analysis

1586
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 6: on the quick picks. You're the you're the executive producer.

1587
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 6: I'm I'm not saying anything. I'm just you're you're over

1588
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 6: here like I'm telling you in your ear to no. No,

1589
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 6: but hey.

1590
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 10: Cody, Well, I mean hey, I told me, John said

1591
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 10: Ian keep it short.

1592
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 9: I heard him.

1593
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 6: I heard him, because we have a man. He boss.

1594
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 6: Actually on the other line, if you want me to

1595
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 6: grab her, do you want me?

1596
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 9: She's actually in Cody's bathroom really pointing no.

1597
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 6: No, oh, John, I love you musta yeah, thank thank you,

1598
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 6: thank you right, but no, I did have anxiety knowing

1599
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 6: we had to get eleven picks out there today so

1600
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 6: you can blame me and finally, great fight here Arman

1601
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,839
Speaker 6: Sarukian minus two forty nasrat hack Parass plus two hundred

1602
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 6: IP close us out.

1603
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 7: No.

1604
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 9: I like Arman here.

1605
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 10: I like him as a prospect moving up. I think

1606
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 10: this is a good matchup for him.

1607
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 6: Kenny, you likes Sarukiana, do all.

1608
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 7: The Armenian there?

1609
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 6: You go, all right, Ian Parker, he is the duck

1610
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 6: on social media at Ian Parker MMA. We appreciate your time,

1611
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 6: and it looks like a week off for the UFC

1612
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 6: next week, so we will get picks next for UFC

1613
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 6: Fight Night over him versus Volkov. That will be early

1614
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 6: February back at the UFC Apex in Las Vegas, Nevada.

1615
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 6: Enjoy your Sunday, kid. You going with the uh the

1616
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 6: Browns plus ten against the Chiefs or or do you

1617
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 6: like the Kansas City outfits?

1618
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 10: I don't like ten in the playoff game, you're gonna

1619
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 10: go case. You gotta tease it down, you know that's uh?

1620
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 10: Right now, I'm rolling with Joey Osbourne here with the

1621
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 10: green Bay tees.

1622
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 8: Uh.

1623
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 9: He's green Bay down and Cleveland up.

1624
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 10: I like that.

1625
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 9: So I'm roll with that and I had buffalo strains

1626
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 9: and that was cool.

1627
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: All right.

1628
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 6: Speaking to which, Joe Osborne from oddshark dot Com coming

1629
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 6: up next, Let's get to the pick to Click.

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01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: It's time now for the pick to click, the pic

1631
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: to click.

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01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,799
Speaker 6: All I have to do is bet on the winner

1633
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 6: and I'll.

1634
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,240
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01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: Ana and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 6: All right. Today's Pick to Click is brought to you

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1640
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Speaker 6: with us as it's customary during a monumental pay per

1645
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Speaker 6: viewek odd Shark Sports betting analyst Joe Osborne on Twitter.

1646
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 6: You can find them at jtfo Z on Instagram. It

1647
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 6: is paper Chase, Joe, Paper Chaser, Jo. What's up, my friend?

1648
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 7: Not much man?

1649
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: What oc car?

1650
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 7: That was yesterday?

1651
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 3: And we have another massive sports weekend upon us. Of course,

1652
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 3: we had the McGregor fight. Then on Sunday we had

1653
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 3: the AFC Title Game, the NFC Title Game, and I

1654
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 3: got to also throw in here. I start a family

1655
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 3: karate class with my three year old son here next

1656
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 3: Sunday morning, guys, So you know, watch what you say

1657
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 3: in the comment section listeners of the show, so you

1658
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 3: know I'm going to bring in some skills here, so

1659
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 3: so be careful.

1660
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 6: You both will be taking part. That's outstanding.

1661
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the absolute basics and that always you know with

1662
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 3: with little kids. I'm sure you're the same John as

1663
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: you try to introduce them to a bunch of different stuff,

1664
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 3: and me being the big sports guy, you know it's

1665
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 3: going to be all the team stuff and then the

1666
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 3: mercial arts. You got to learn some self defense being

1667
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,799
Speaker 3: a little guy coming up right.

1668
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 6: Just when you thought the paper chaser Jo Instagram account

1669
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 6: couldn't get any better. Hopefully there's some foot John there.

1670
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 6: I actually found a bigger fan of yours than even me.

1671
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 6: It's my twin brother. He is just so happy with

1672
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 6: all of your work with these teasers, and I know

1673
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 6: you have another one in the NFL today, which you

1674
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 6: can see on his Instagram page right now. And by

1675
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 6: the way, full disclosure, you were all over Max Holloway

1676
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 6: and the minus one thirty five range last night. I

1677
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,480
Speaker 6: know how juicy that price was for you, So congrats

1678
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 6: on the cash there. But in the nature of spinning

1679
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 6: things forward, we got a big one obviously this weekend.

1680
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 6: It's Connor McGregor and the minus two to seventy range

1681
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 6: or so. Dustin Pourier on the comeback plus two thirty.

1682
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 6: What do you think about Connor coming back? And how

1683
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 6: do you handicap this fight?

1684
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 3: Well, Connor is my pick to win the fight, but

1685
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 3: as you know, not very interested in coming on here

1686
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 3: and picking a guy minus three hundred to win I fight.

1687
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of the listeners aren't very interested

1688
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 3: in laying the price minus three hundred. Maybe Connor's a

1689
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 3: little bit overvalued here too, To be completely fair, you know,

1690
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: he's a couple tiers above Pourier is for striking, is

1691
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: concerned about Pourier is still very much world class, but

1692
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 3: no value in picking the loser. And the reason I

1693
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 3: do like Connor here is very simple. Poorier gets hit

1694
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 3: way too much and he has no significant grappling or

1695
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 3: wrestling advantage in this fight. So that's a very bad

1696
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 3: matchup going against Connor. That pinpoint accuracy and punching power. Poorier,

1697
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 3: he's been on the wrong end of over one hundred

1698
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 3: significant strikes in three of his last five fights, So

1699
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 3: that type of style versus this guy very bad matchup.

1700
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 3: So that's a physical part of the fight. Now the

1701
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 3: mental part of the fight. You know, it's a big

1702
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 3: story coming into this fight. Poier is talking about, the

1703
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 3: media is talking about it that Dustin's a much more

1704
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 3: mature guy now, which he absolutely is, and he's not

1705
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 3: going to let any external factors influence his performance. When

1706
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 3: I hear Dustin talk about this guys, I gotta be honest,

1707
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 3: it makes me think that maybe he's still a little

1708
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 3: bit in his head here, right, because such a big

1709
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 3: deal is being made out of this. Then you take

1710
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 3: a look at the Connor approach to the mental game. Obviously,

1711
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 3: you know he's going to have the mental edge and

1712
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 3: most of these fights that he's in, but in these

1713
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 3: press conferences to build up to the fight, he's usually

1714
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 3: trying to humiliate these guys and intimidate them. Last time

1715
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 3: versus Donald Seroni, a very different approach. It was a

1716
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 3: very gentleman like approach that he took with Donald, very

1717
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 3: complimentary of Donald's career. Donald were in this together. We're

1718
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Speaker 3: putting on this.

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01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 7: Big show together, me and you. It's me and you.

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Speaker 11: Donald takes all the pressure off a second into the fight.

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01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 11: He's trying to pull verize his face, right. So I

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01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 11: think that kind of did throw Donald off a little

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01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 11: bit in that fight. He didn't have a second to

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01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 11: breathe didn't have a second to think, and we're seeing

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01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 11: shades of that with Dustin Poirier coming in to this fight, right.

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01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 11: So it'll be very interesting to see the press conference

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01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 11: there on Thursday to see how the two interact with

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01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 11: each other. And I think, John, You're in agreement with

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01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 11: me here. I think Connor can be underrated by some people.

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01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 11: People either like the guy or hate the guy. I

1731
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 11: think he tends to be underrated a little bit because people.

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01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 3: See the bravado and the theatrics, and then they go

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01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 3: the log on the social media and you see the

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01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: memes and the gifts of them being choked out by

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01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 3: Nake Diez and Kabibe. His only two losses in the UFC,

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01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 3: by the way, people forget that, so I think Connor wins,

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01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 3: But how do you want to bet the fight? If

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01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 3: you like Connor, you probably think he's gonna win by Tkoko,

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01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: still a little juicy, minus one seventy five on that.

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01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 3: My best bet for this fight is under one and

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01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 3: a half rounds and that's plus money right now, plus

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01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 3: one ten.

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01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 7: And the reason I.

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01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 3: Like that is, first of all, it does leave the

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01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: door open to and upset, so either fighter can win

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01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 3: as long as it gets finished inside a round and

1747
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 3: a half, right, And ra see McGregor with this prediction, right,

1748
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 3: he says he's gonna win inside sixty seconds. So you

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01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: get that at plus four hundred, by the way, but

1750
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 3: you got to give Portier a little bit more credit

1751
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 3: than that. And you know, I think McGregor he's not

1752
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 3: being paid by the hour. He's in there to take

1753
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 3: care of business. And I think it's going to be

1754
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 3: a very similar approach to what we saw with Seroni.

1755
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 3: It's going to be blast off right from the start,

1756
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 3: and he's going to try to finish him as quickly

1757
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 3: as possible. Six times in his career he had in

1758
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: his UFC career he's finished a fight in under a

1759
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 3: round and a half, So I like that quite a bit.

1760
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 3: At plus money, that would be my best bet for

1761
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 3: the main.

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01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,839
Speaker 6: Event, Kenny. That's interesting because you said under ten minutes,

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01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 6: and I would imagine that bet might entice you getting

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01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 6: under seven and a half minutes, Kenny at plus one ten.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, I think Joe was pretty spot on with

1766
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 8: everything he said. You know, we talked about a lot

1767
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 8: of those similar things, So Joe, excellent job on that.

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01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 8: How do you see this co main event with Chandler

1769
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 8: and Hooker?

1770
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 3: First of all, I thought that Hooker was going to

1771
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 3: be the underdog when the fight was first announced, and

1772
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 3: I was actually looking forward like, hey, I can't wait

1773
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 3: to bet on Hooker as an underdog here.

1774
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 7: But he's a slight favorite here.

1775
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 3: Minus one twenty, so not a whole lot of value,

1776
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 3: and it's kind of a bit of a coin cliff fight.

1777
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 3: We don't know a whole lot about Michael Chandler. The

1778
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 3: hardcore fans do. You can go back and watch his

1779
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 3: work in Bellatour, but it's kind of risky, right. We've

1780
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: seen MMA veterans later on in their careers make their

1781
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: UFC debuts. We have dozens of examples of this, and

1782
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 3: we've seen some very mixed results. Sometimes they don't show

1783
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 3: up right, so it's kind of like betting a week

1784
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 3: one of the season. We know what people are capable of,

1785
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 3: but we don't know if they're going to bring that.

1786
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 3: But I do think this fight has decision written all

1787
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: over it, guys, So I like the over two and

1788
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 3: a half rounds at minus one twenty. I don't think

1789
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 3: that Chandler can ko Hooker, and Hooker hasn't been submitted

1790
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 3: in over ten years, so I don't think that's a possibility.

1791
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 3: And then the other side of it, I think Chandler

1792
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 3: plays this fight incredibly safe. You know, he's I got

1793
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 3: a ton of pressure on him coming into this fight.

1794
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 3: If you look at the card top to bottom after McGregor,

1795
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 3: I'd say Chandler has the second most pressure on him.

1796
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 3: So I think he's gonna play it safe and he's

1797
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 3: gonna lean on his wrestling. If he looks at pape

1798
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 3: of Hooker's last two fights versus Poorier and Paul Felder,

1799
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 3: why would he want to get into a firefight, you know,

1800
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 3: a striking war with this guy. I think he's going

1801
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 3: to try to avoid that at all costs. So I

1802
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 3: think he's gonna lean on his wrestling. I think that's

1803
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 3: gonna chew up a ton o'clock. It's gonna limit the

1804
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 3: big striking exchanges because Hooker he has pretty good wrestling

1805
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 3: defense from what I've seen so over two and a

1806
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 3: half rounds minus one twenty for the combine, it's a

1807
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 3: pretty good spot. I think. I think Chandler's going to

1808
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 3: play it safe and probably not going to be a

1809
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 3: very exciting fight like we're used to with Dan Hooker.

1810
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 6: You have done your homework this week as usual, my friend. Sorry,

1811
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 6: my phone is ringing in the hotel room. The only

1812
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 6: one who calls me when I'm on the road is

1813
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 6: Bruce Buffer. Kill this guy when we get on. Rude man,

1814
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 6: Joe Osborne. You can track his every move on Twitter

1815
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 6: at Jtfoz and of course on Instagram. I just love

1816
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 6: the energy paper chaser jo Joel, my friend. Enjoy the

1817
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 6: rest of your Sunday, and we'll talk to you next

1818
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 6: month in advance of UFC two fifty eight. And I

1819
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 6: will talk to you, I believe, tomorrow on Guys and Bets.

1820
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, absolutely, John, I'm gonna absolutely brilliant

1821
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 3: a time of tough questions. I've got your journalism, so

1822
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 3: you're going to be in hot water, so so come

1823
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 3: prepare for that.

1824
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, ask me if Dana White and the media are

1825
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 6: going to get along better this year, And ask me

1826
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 6: about criticism of all of my broadcast partners, because that

1827
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 6: makes me really happy to have to answer those questions. Hey,

1828
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 6: appreciate your time, my man. I'll see you tomorrow.

1829
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 3: Awesome, guys, Thank you, good luck and good luck to

1830
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:46,520
Speaker 3: all the listeners.

1831
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. There he is Joe Osborne, joining

1832
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 6: us as usual during a pay per view week week

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01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 6: from oddshark dot Com. All right, before we get on

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Speaker 6: out of here, Ken Flow's YouTube channel again, if you're

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01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 6: looking for some amazing jiu jitsu videos. I mean, I'm

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01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 6: the guy who really needs this shit, right. The problem

1837
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 6: is I have to take notes when I watch, which

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01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 6: isn't always an ideal when you got kids running around.

1839
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 6: But that's not the kicker on today's show. The kicker

1840
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 6: is Ryan Hall because he finally got one of these

1841
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 6: elite featherweights to sign on the dotted line and it's

1842
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 6: the ever classy Dan Egay. So I love both of

1843
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 6: these guys. Can but presumably if the calendar aligns, you

1844
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 6: will be in Ryan Hall's corner, and you gotta be happy,

1845
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 6: obviously to be facing a guy with a resume and

1846
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 6: just a good attitude like Dany Gay. You know that's right.

1847
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 8: I mean, listen, this guy's a Brazilian jitsu black belt.

1848
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 7: He's a stud when it comes to striking as well.

1849
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 7: He's as tough as they come.

1850
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 8: I mean, how many guys were able to strike with

1851
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 8: Calvin Cator and go the distance?

1852
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 6: Not many.

1853
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 8: Danny Gay is a beast right now. Number eleven in

1854
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 8: the world, I believe. So this is a great fight

1855
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 8: for both guys and I can't wait.

1856
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 9: Man.

1857
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 7: So Ryan's been training hard and we're ready to go

1858
01:24:58,960 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 7: for March.

1859
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 6: All right, beautiful, we gotta get on that of here.

1860
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 6: I am exhausted, folks. Thanks to everybody though, for all

1861
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,680
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Speaker 6: the show with Bala Muhammad and Jason anakairs live every

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Speaker 6: Thursday at eight thirty pm Eastern Standard Time, with all

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Speaker 6: of that for our executive producer, Cody Merrow and the

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 6: legend Ken Flow. John Annix signing off here from Abu Dhabi.

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Speaker 6: Thank you all for watching, for listening. We will be

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01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 6: back next Monday. We'll recap the big one UFC two

1873
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 6: fifty seven Pourier versus McGregor two. Remarkably now just six

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Speaker 6: sleeps away. We will talk to you next week. Until then,

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