Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We're doing this a
Speaker 1: little bit different today. I have Kyle here with me,
Speaker 1: so we are both going to be just chatting with
Speaker 1: you about what happened in Michigan this week, which I
Speaker 1: think is exciting a little bit weird. So you saw
Speaker 1: President Trump come here to celebrate his one hundred days,
Speaker 1: which has been really truly amazing. We've talked about it
Speaker 1: a little bit on the program. We talked to Harrison
Speaker 1: Fields about it on the program. It's been I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that he's moving at really light speed. The
Speaker 1: guy is he never slows down. Kyle and I were
Speaker 1: both at the White House this week and we got
Speaker 1: to talk to people there, and I don't know what
Speaker 1: your experience was, but my experience was that everybody had
Speaker 1: talked to was like, the guy never sleeps. We're literally
Speaker 1: working all the time in a good way. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could tell they were exhausted, but they were so
Speaker 1: pleased with what they've done.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I talked to Ron Vittella, who is the Senior
Speaker 2: Advisor for Customs and Border Protection, and we obviously were
Speaker 2: talking about deportations and border security, and one of the
Speaker 2: things that we talked about and I still I just
Speaker 2: still can't get over the fact that, you know, one
Speaker 2: of the things he said was illegal border crossings at
Speaker 2: the southern border have decreased ninety seven percent.
Speaker 1: Right, But that just goes to show they weren't doing anything.
Speaker 1: And not even they weren't doing anything. People are like, oh,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden wasn't opening order. Yes he was, he was.
Speaker 2: And they created this app that would allow people to
Speaker 2: sort of fill out their information and then be caught
Speaker 2: quote unquote caught and then released into the country. And
Speaker 2: now what they've done is they've changed the app so
Speaker 2: that it's actually now being used to self deport So
Speaker 2: instead of having illegal aliens using the app to get
Speaker 2: into the country, they are now using the app to
Speaker 2: get out of the country.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if that is I had because I
Speaker 1: was talking about this on Newsmax and we were talking
Speaker 1: about the deportation and do process, and I had someone
Speaker 1: reach out to me and say, like, everybody that comes
Speaker 1: into the country has to have due process. And I
Speaker 1: know that when he had the what did he Alien
Speaker 1: Enemies Act, that that takes that away for you. If
Speaker 1: you are a gang member, if you are a part
Speaker 1: of one of these designated terrorist organizations, then you can
Speaker 1: be immediately deported. He has commented on the fact that
Speaker 1: it is challenging to deport this many people when you
Speaker 1: have to go through a court. So maybe that also
Speaker 1: allows these people to, like, before you get caught, you
Speaker 1: can go out and come back in the right way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and this idea that people are not getting
Speaker 2: due process is false. You know, there's so many stories.
Speaker 2: I read a lot of these stories on the ICE website,
Speaker 2: and there's so many of these stories where individuals an
Speaker 2: immigration judge will say they should be deported, but then
Speaker 2: they just disappear. And now what the Trump administration is
Speaker 2: doing is actually finding these people and arresting them. And
Speaker 2: one of the things I said was, I just it's
Speaker 2: so amazing to me because some of these raids and
Speaker 2: arrests and all of that happened literally on inauguration day.
Speaker 2: I mean it was he was sworn in at noon
Speaker 2: and they started And I said, what that says to
Speaker 2: someone who, you know, I think has common sense, is
Speaker 2: that if you knew on inauguration day that where these
Speaker 2: people were, then that means the Biden administration knew where
Speaker 2: these people were. And these a lot of these are criminal,
Speaker 2: illegal aliens. It's not just people who cross the border
Speaker 2: illegally who are by definition criminals. It's murderers, it's rapists,
Speaker 2: it's just horrible, horrible crimes that many of them were
Speaker 2: committed in the United States.
Speaker 1: Well, I have been talked to and maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: I don't know how I missed this, but I talked
Speaker 1: to one of the guys from the CIA. Will have
Speaker 1: that coming out, you guys are going to listen to that.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that he said was, you know,
Speaker 1: we found the mastermind behind Abbygate in February and arrested
Speaker 1: him and he's brought back to this country. And I thought,
Speaker 1: think about that. I mean, all this time, those thirteen
Speaker 1: service members died, Joe Biden wouldn't even acknowledge it. In February,
Speaker 1: thirty days in, they get the bad guy. You know,
Speaker 1: this administration is not messing around. But that aside, that's
Speaker 1: a whole that's a whole nother story. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about Michigan. So I want to get back to
Speaker 1: Michigan because there's kind of like the elephant in the
Speaker 1: room that we have to address, and that is the
Speaker 1: relationship that we're seeing between Governor Whitmer and President Trump,
Speaker 1: and I think that I feel like I have to
Speaker 1: address this because people come to me a lot and
Speaker 1: they're like, how do you feel about him? Saying, No,
Speaker 1: she's great, She's doing such a great job. And I
Speaker 1: have some of the quotes here because he did come
Speaker 1: to Michigan. We are we are so happy that he
Speaker 1: did this because he came here and he said he's
Speaker 1: going to essentially keep Selfridge Air Force Base open. And
Speaker 1: this is important to us because it was really not officially,
Speaker 1: but I think unofficially everybody kind of felt like it
Speaker 1: was closing. There was you're laughing, I'm not laughing. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: I thought you were laughing. You had a weird look
Speaker 1: on your face. So I think unofficially we all thought
Speaker 1: these airplanes or the fighter jets that they had there
Speaker 1: are kind of being obsoleted. They needed to get a
Speaker 1: new group of planes in there, or they were going
Speaker 1: to shut down. And Whitmer knew that. That's why she
Speaker 1: went when she went to the White House, she went
Speaker 1: and said, I need you to keep Selfridge open. There's
Speaker 1: a few elephants in this room. I mean, the relationship
Speaker 1: between President Trump and Governor Whitmer, which is I'm not
Speaker 1: knocking that because I think that him coming here and
Speaker 1: saying that he's going to make sure that this is
Speaker 1: secure and make sure that the base continues is critical.
Speaker 1: But the other one is why didn't Biden do it? Well?
Speaker 2: I think Biden, Okay, Biden, this fleet needs to go somewhere.
Speaker 2: And I don't think Biden really necessarily cared about Michigan.
Speaker 2: I don't think even though he was looking at Whitmer
Speaker 2: to be his running mate, it didn't really it didn't
Speaker 2: really matter to him, and he would have been fine
Speaker 2: if it went, you know, anywhere else. But this was
Speaker 2: I think this was very necessary for Michigan, and it
Speaker 2: was interesting. I think when when Whitmer, she spoke for
Speaker 2: about thirty seconds at the announcement. Trump asked her to
Speaker 2: come up and she was not prepared, and she said
Speaker 2: she was not prepared. But when she did speak, you know,
Speaker 2: she the first reason she said that this was necessary
Speaker 2: was for the economy, which we can get into. You know,
Speaker 2: what's happening with the Michigan economy, and she's desperate for
Speaker 2: any sort of good news because it's almost universally bad.
Speaker 2: But you know what. I think that what it showed
Speaker 2: is that Trump is very engaged. When he has people
Speaker 2: like the speaker of the Michigan House, Matt Hall, and
Speaker 2: others reaching out to him talking to him about this,
Speaker 2: He's listening and he is as we were just talking about.
Speaker 2: I mean, he never stops working.
Speaker 1: I think the President takes it very seriously. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know the President takes it very seriously when he
Speaker 1: comes out and he says, I'm going to help you,
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring this back, I'm going to do
Speaker 1: things for your state. Michigan. He was in Michigan. He
Speaker 1: ended his campaign in Michigan. He was in Michigan. I
Speaker 1: think almost probably more than any other state. They spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time. If it was him or surrogates
Speaker 1: or the vice president, they were here quite a bit.
Speaker 1: So Michigan was very important. He made a lot of
Speaker 1: promises to us. I think that's interesting because the whole
Speaker 1: one hundred Days theme as promises made, promises kept, and
Speaker 1: many promises were made to Michigan. He came here to
Speaker 1: say he's going to review the auto tariffs and give
Speaker 1: some relief there that I think has been a big concern.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of been one of the things that
Speaker 1: the candidates here on the Democrat side have been bashing
Speaker 1: him on already, like, oh my gosh, he's going to
Speaker 1: destroy our industry. So he came here. That's meaningful. He
Speaker 1: jumped on a plane, he came here rally. He had
Speaker 1: whitmer at the Selfridge part of it. He calls out
Speaker 1: to her, I think the thing that people are struggling
Speaker 1: with is and he says it, which you know is
Speaker 1: part of his charm. He says, I'm not supposed to
Speaker 1: do that. She's a Democrat. They say, don't do that,
Speaker 1: don't have her here. I said, no, she's going to
Speaker 1: be here. She's done a very good job, frankly, and
Speaker 1: she's been very much involved with the Republicans. They've worked
Speaker 1: together on saving it. It was not easy. So thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Gretchen. Good job. That's the elephant in
Speaker 1: the room because people in the state are frustrated. Republicans
Speaker 1: in the state are frustrated. The state itself is in
Speaker 1: total disarray. The roads were never fixed, the infrastructure is
Speaker 1: forty first in the nation. That was what she ran on.
Speaker 1: You know, we can go through education. Jobs are down, everything,
Speaker 1: literacy is up. All of these things are a problem,
Speaker 1: but really the core of her campaign for both of
Speaker 1: them was I'm going to fix the roads. The infrastructure
Speaker 1: is forty first in the nation. So when he says
Speaker 1: good job, that's frustrating to us because it feels like
Speaker 1: it's a it's just another barrier to get over. In
Speaker 1: twenty six is that she has a high approval rating
Speaker 1: and he's now praising her. It's interesting for her because
Speaker 1: it's affected her both positively and negatively. I think the
Speaker 1: JFK type Democrats are going, Okay, finally we have someone
Speaker 1: who's willing to cross the aisle, and that really wasn't
Speaker 1: her mo before. She is not good at this. She
Speaker 1: has been a partisan her entire life, and it makes
Speaker 1: her look like she's reasonable. You know, she's willing to
Speaker 1: go and sit down with him, and she was begging
Speaker 1: from the beginning to get in there. So I think
Speaker 1: that also was endearing to him. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: easy for her to be deferential to someone else and say, oh,
Speaker 1: he's important. You could tell in the way he called
Speaker 1: her up she wasn't prepared, and she said so she
Speaker 1: turns to him and she looks at him and she says,
Speaker 1: so thank you for making this announcement. She doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to be a leader when it comes to speaking.
Speaker 1: She should have looked at the crowd and said, we're
Speaker 1: very grateful to the president for coming out here, for
Speaker 1: doing this for us, you know, the saves and she
Speaker 1: could have had the numbers. This is an eight hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars annually to this community. It's a huge impact.
Speaker 1: It's five thousand jobs. We're very grateful to the president
Speaker 1: for finally taking selfridge. Seriously, we've been working on this
Speaker 1: for years. Her staff doesn't prepare her. But she's changed
Speaker 1: since twenty two and twenty four. She's changed just in
Speaker 1: this short period of time with him being president. So
Speaker 1: what does that say about him as a leader that
Speaker 1: he took her in there and you can see a
Speaker 1: difference in her.
Speaker 2: Well, he's he's ultimately he's a deal maker and so
Speaker 2: he and he wants wins, and she is a if
Speaker 2: you look at the rankings, she's a popular democratic governor.
Speaker 2: And so if there's this sort of bipartisan thing that
Speaker 2: he can do in a state that matters to him,
Speaker 2: in a county that matters to him, a comb county,
Speaker 2: you know, I think he's going to do that because
Speaker 2: I think to some degree he's you know, he's thinking
Speaker 2: about his legacy and what is good for the country. Now, she,
Speaker 2: I think, is a different story because she wants to
Speaker 2: run for president. That's been very obvious, and she's now
Speaker 2: in this situation. But at the same time, and you
Speaker 2: you wrote a column about this, at the same time,
Speaker 2: she's addicted to federal money. She wants federal money for
Speaker 2: any project she can possibly get, and well, where does
Speaker 2: she go to get that? She goes to Trump, And
Speaker 2: so she's got to get things from him in order
Speaker 2: to get you some wins for herself. And so she
Speaker 2: is in this situation where she can't be too mean,
Speaker 2: she can't say things that are too not nice and
Speaker 2: offend him and not get what she wants. So she
Speaker 2: is she's sort of very hot and cold, whether it
Speaker 2: is you know, he's saying nice things about her, but
Speaker 2: then she's covering her face with the folder in the office,
Speaker 2: and then she's.
Speaker 1: Embracing immature politician. She is truly a politician. She's been
Speaker 1: a politician her whole life. And I think that's critical
Speaker 1: here too. He's been negotiating his whole life He makes
Speaker 1: deals his whole life. He knows how to work this.
Speaker 1: She hasn't really had to. You know, when you are
Speaker 1: in the legislature, you're dealing with a very small group
Speaker 1: of people and you're trying to figure out how to
Speaker 1: manipulate your own leader. And that's the whole time. It's
Speaker 1: just a few people that you're dealing with. He's dealt
Speaker 1: with people across the globe. He's in a different position
Speaker 1: than she is. She's figuring out what it is to
Speaker 1: deal with someone on a higher level, because as governor
Speaker 1: she really hasn't done that. He was in office the
Speaker 1: first time, when she was at the beginning of her term,
Speaker 1: she wouldn't deal with him at all then because she
Speaker 1: was still so partisan that she was just on the attack.
Speaker 1: She was very immature as it as a governor, and
Speaker 1: so she didn't she didn't let him in at all.
Speaker 1: And then COVID hit and let's be honest, there wasn't
Speaker 1: anybody talking to Biden. Now it's come out, the truth
Speaker 1: is he wasn't even in there. So you know, she
Speaker 1: knew that. You know that she the selfrage thing wasn't
Speaker 1: going to go anywhere because she didn't know the right
Speaker 1: people in the Pentagon to talk to at that point,
Speaker 1: because it wasn't him. It wasn't going to be him.
Speaker 1: Now she's in and new she's having a new experience
Speaker 1: where she's decided to go directly to him. Says a
Speaker 1: lot about him. She has trashed him. I mean she
Speaker 1: trashed him the whole campaign. She was one of the
Speaker 1: leaders on their side going around the country. Regardless of
Speaker 1: her silly social media videos, she traveled around. She hasn't
Speaker 1: been in the state of Michigan in a year. She
Speaker 1: traveled around this country trying to get him to make
Speaker 1: sure he didn't get an office. I think she's the
Speaker 1: first Democrat governor he met with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is. And she was a co chair for Biden,
Speaker 2: and she was a co chair for Kamala so and
Speaker 2: she was a vice chair the DNC when when Trump
Speaker 2: was president. And don't forget the timeline here. So she
Speaker 2: was elected in twenty eighteen, she took office in January
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen, and then the pandemic hits in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty and then but then you're coming up to the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty election and she's maneuvering to be Biden's vice
Speaker 2: president well, so then she's making very partisan statements about Trump,
Speaker 2: and she's going to you know, fight Trump because she
Speaker 2: wants to be the running mate, which then obviously means
Speaker 2: she at some point would be the nominee. And so
Speaker 2: that that has been sort of the whole you know,
Speaker 2: her whole mo. But now she's in a situation where
Speaker 2: I think she's sort of trying to play I wouldn't
Speaker 2: say the middle, but she's sort of in Democrat terms,
Speaker 2: she's more of a moderate. That's I think she's she's
Speaker 2: trying to show that she can work with other people.
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Speaker 1: have changed the trajectory of the election. Had she been
Speaker 1: the vice president, it would have been a really different
Speaker 1: story in the presidential race. Because she is liked. I
Speaker 1: think she does. I mean her numbers say that she's liked.
Speaker 1: I think that there would have been a huge machine
Speaker 1: behind her. That would have been a genuine machine, you know.
Speaker 1: I think people would have believed in her like the
Speaker 1: Beyonces of the world. It wouldn't have been paid gigs.
Speaker 2: Well look at she probably well she may have won Michigan.
Speaker 2: She would have had a better chance of winning Michigan.
Speaker 1: And now and now people are saying Michigan is the
Speaker 1: key to twenty eight, and Trump knows that. I think
Speaker 1: he knows it's the key to twenty six and twenty
Speaker 1: eight because he has to make sure he holds the
Speaker 1: house in the Senate, so he's going to spend time here.
Speaker 1: They're going to put a focus on Michigan. They also
Speaker 1: know in twenty eight if she runs, Michigan's going to
Speaker 1: go for her. I mean, I would love to say
Speaker 1: that's not the case, but she has a high approval rating.
Speaker 1: They calculate this stuff all the time, that he has
Speaker 1: a very intelligent team. They're watching what's going on. The
Speaker 1: Democrats are going to be watching because they've got this
Speaker 1: situation now where AOC is taking up all the air
Speaker 1: in the room. She's out there painting already for president.
Speaker 1: She has these massive rallies. Whitmer has a few problems.
Speaker 1: She doesn't understand the negotiations. She doesn't understand how to
Speaker 1: talk about things. She's never had to. She lives in
Speaker 1: a state where she's never had to do what Trump did,
Speaker 1: where he went around the country and did these podcasts.
Speaker 1: When she has been in these longer, longer form interviews,
Speaker 1: she's come off as a very immature, not a leader,
Speaker 1: very immature spokesperson, Like she's more of a spokesperson than
Speaker 1: someone who can get dived deep into the issues and
Speaker 1: understand it. I think that's how the state got into
Speaker 1: this situation that we're in, where we have these high
Speaker 1: energy costs, we have all of this regulation. My gosh,
Speaker 1: even like this latest thing where they're going to gas
Speaker 1: the geese, that's the choice that you're making. Like we
Speaker 1: have a problem with massive amount of Canadian geese, and
Speaker 1: so she's like, we're going to take them to gas
Speaker 1: chambers and gas them.
Speaker 2: That's ways the right poison them, and don't forget. She
Speaker 2: also wanted to tear down state forest to put up
Speaker 2: solar panels right.
Speaker 1: Right in a state where it snows half the year, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are not reasonable decisions. She's very easily
Speaker 1: swayed by whoever's giving her money. I think that's a danger.
Speaker 1: But she's also even yesterday when she did get to speak,
Speaker 1: she comes in and she goes, I'm so damn happy.
Speaker 1: This is a new thing too. On their side is
Speaker 1: as much as we can swear, as much as we
Speaker 1: can try to sound cool to the young people, And
Speaker 1: for some reason she finds that to be like the
Speaker 1: cool thing to do, to come out and just curse. Then,
Speaker 1: when I was working by the people that I work for,
Speaker 1: I remember one guy specifically saying, like, you're never going
Speaker 1: to win people over by cursing. That is a low
Speaker 1: blow and you're not going to You are not going
Speaker 1: to not just win people over, but you are not
Speaker 1: going to inspire people to work harder if you just
Speaker 1: start swearing at them. And that's something I don't think
Speaker 1: Democrats have figured out. But this is what she told
Speaker 1: the Detroit News. So she said, I've been working on
Speaker 1: this the whole time I've been governor, Wentm're told the
Speaker 1: Detroit News. Sure enough, we got the best case scenario.
Speaker 1: We're really happy with this news. It's a huge. It's
Speaker 1: huge for the Michigan economy, for our aerospace industry, for
Speaker 1: all the men and women who work on and around Selfridge.
Speaker 1: Is this recapitalization is a b FD And then she
Speaker 1: said big future deal, you know, but we know what
Speaker 1: she actually meant by that. Again, I think that maybe
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I think this level of immaturity and
Speaker 1: playing and pushing toward the edge. She's trying to keep
Speaker 1: the far left while she's trying to say she's a moderate,
Speaker 1: but maybe she sees Slockin and she goes man.
Speaker 2: It worked for her, Yeah, but it's different because Slackin
Speaker 2: did not have a primary to speak of. And what
Speaker 2: we're seeing across the country is a base of the
Speaker 2: Democrat Party is wildly anti Trump. Hates his guts there protesting.
Speaker 2: I mean they're literally burning tesla's, they're burning electric cars
Speaker 2: because they hate the guy so much. And so this
Speaker 2: idea that you know, she's going to sort of play
Speaker 2: foot seat with Trump and that's going to translate in
Speaker 2: the Democrat primary, I don't know. Maybe maybe it will,
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a certain sector of you know, Democrat primary
Speaker 2: voters that will go for that. But it just seems
Speaker 2: to me like having a Republican like Trump praising a
Speaker 2: Democrat governor like Whitmer is not going to end well
Speaker 2: because think about the opposite. Think about if there was
Speaker 2: a Joe Biden or a Barack Obama that was praising
Speaker 2: a Republican Canada potential Republican candidate for president. Would any
Speaker 2: Republican voter primary voter really look at that candidate and go,
Speaker 2: you know what, I think Biden or Obama they're right,
Speaker 2: and maybe we should take that person's areas.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the calculation that from the president's
Speaker 1: team is, well, if you get her close enough to him,
Speaker 1: you know she's playing on her side, playing with buyers.
Speaker 1: She's going to get burned. You've got this political group
Speaker 1: called five zero five zero one. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is, some political group out there that's like a
Speaker 1: leftist group. They call this destructive enabling behavior. So she's
Speaker 1: getting attacked. It's not going well for her, like you said,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I guess I am not calculating that
Speaker 1: that she has a massive primary in the presidential and
Speaker 1: as soon as those people can connect her to Trump
Speaker 1: like she loves Trump, she's that's not going to work
Speaker 1: for her. And Sluckin didn't have that, so that is
Speaker 1: a different calculation for those two. The Seneca Project, they
Speaker 1: come out and said this is disqualifying for her. She
Speaker 1: has disqualified herself for president. So you've already got some
Speaker 1: leftists that are saying that she's disqualified herself. You've got
Speaker 1: this guy who is the CEO of a news organization
Speaker 1: that posted far right extremists, tried to kidnap Whitmer. Trump
Speaker 1: and self later suggested it was a fake plot and
Speaker 1: mocked it. He called her that woman in Michigan and
Speaker 1: led a crowd that chant to lock her up. Today,
Speaker 1: Whitmer hugged him on the tarmac. This is why Dems lose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's why they lose, or maybe she knows
Speaker 2: the reality of the plot quote plot.
Speaker 1: I think that she had no choice.
Speaker 2: Again, if you're addicted. He knows, he knows her weakness.
Speaker 2: He knows how to identify people's weaknesses, and he knows
Speaker 2: her weakness is federal money, because she's so desperate to
Speaker 2: keep spending going that she wants more.
Speaker 1: But also press releases. She loves the press release that
Speaker 1: says Whitmer did this and this many jobs coming or
Speaker 1: this many jobs saved. And that was something that one
Speaker 1: of the groups just did. I think it was. Bridge
Speaker 1: just wrote an article saying that she has had she
Speaker 1: promised sixty thousand jobs, she ended up with thirteen thousand
Speaker 1: for this billion dollars in money that she gave it
Speaker 1: out well right, right exactly. But they actually pointed out,
Speaker 1: which I was impressed. They pointed out that she was
Speaker 1: always quick to put out promised jobs, right, but then
Speaker 1: never naged yes or announced, but yes, announced, but never
Speaker 1: came back and said, oh, those jobs didn't.
Speaker 2: Actually come because she just moves on.
Speaker 1: But this is a this to her, the press release
Speaker 1: is worth it, the news is worth it, and she's
Speaker 1: she's been good about not talking to the news in Michigan.
Speaker 1: I say good because that's what keeps her approval rating up.
Speaker 1: She knows that if she doesn't talk to local news,
Speaker 1: she can keep her approval rating up. So when people
Speaker 1: are looking at these races, and the reason we're's going
Speaker 1: into so much detail about this is because I do
Speaker 1: think a lot of Republicans went, WHOA, what did Trump do?
Speaker 1: I think Trump is very smart about how he manages
Speaker 1: everything that he does. So he comes into the state,
Speaker 1: he knows that he helps Michigan. The only thing that's
Speaker 1: interesting is that you have some state reps. John James
Speaker 1: is one who's running for governor in the state, and
Speaker 1: he has said that he was fighting for Selfridge, but
Speaker 1: that didn't Trump was not praising him, which I thought
Speaker 1: was interesting that he chose not to put a Republican
Speaker 1: on stage and say you did this, I think he
Speaker 1: truly made the deal with Whitmer himself. I don't think
Speaker 1: that this came from anything from the past. I think
Speaker 1: she went there, they sat down and talked about this,
Speaker 1: and Trump is crediting her, and he wants to keep
Speaker 1: everything else out of it other than they made a
Speaker 1: bipartisan deal. And in some cases, I don't think Trump
Speaker 1: is partisan at all. He's just a deal maker.
Speaker 2: He's a deal maker. And again, what I think could
Speaker 2: be happening here is that he's getting a win. He's
Speaker 2: you know, cozying up to her, so he looks like
Speaker 2: it's sort of you know, rounding his rough edges, and
Speaker 2: it's probably tanking her career because again, if she wants
Speaker 2: to go into a Democrat primary where you have people
Speaker 2: just foaming at the mouth about you know, Trump is
Speaker 2: and they're saying all these terrible things. Everybody knows what
Speaker 2: we're talking about, and here she is literally hugging him.
Speaker 2: That's unless there is a Unless she is calculating that
Speaker 2: there's going to be so many anti Trump candidates in
Speaker 2: a Democrat primary. Newsome Pritzker, you just go right down
Speaker 2: the list therein there's a tiny little sliver of Democrat
Speaker 2: voters who are willing to be more bipartisan than you know,
Speaker 2: burn down Trump. Maybe she's saying, that's the little sliver,
Speaker 2: that's the lane I can run in, and that's what
Speaker 2: I can use to try and win a primary. I
Speaker 2: just don't see it.
Speaker 1: We've got more coming out after this. But you make
Speaker 1: a good point, because there is there's a diverse group
Speaker 1: of haters. It won't be you're running. You've got AOC
Speaker 1: who's a total, full bone socialist. She takes that group
Speaker 1: that could have gone to new some that could have
Speaker 1: down to Pritzker. She takes that group and pulls them
Speaker 1: off completely. And that's not enough to win. And then
Speaker 1: who what is Newsom have left? The real true Trump
Speaker 1: haters that don't believe in socialism. He takes that group,
Speaker 1: not enough to win. Maybe those traditional Democrats go with
Speaker 1: Whitmer because there's no other choice, and she gets them,
Speaker 1: and that's her calculation. There's no part of me that
Speaker 1: doesn't think she's calculating right now because she is that
Speaker 1: she's always run for the next position. She's never run,
Speaker 1: and she's never been in her position cared about it.
Speaker 1: And I think that what people need to know is
Speaker 1: that she is a master gas layer. I mean all
Speaker 1: of her ads were filled with lies. All of her
Speaker 1: videos are filled with lies, and she just tells you
Speaker 1: you should be happy living here because this is I've
Speaker 1: done all these great things. The roads are fixed. The
Speaker 1: roads aren't fixed. Like I said, forty first in infrastructure,
Speaker 1: but first across the board. Education's a mess. Crime is
Speaker 1: a mess. We have five of the most dangerous, twenty
Speaker 1: most dangerous cities in the country. Like the state is
Speaker 1: a mess, and that's where the American people can't be
Speaker 1: gas lit by what she's doing with Trump. I think
Speaker 1: she also thinks she can win over the middle and
Speaker 1: she probably figures a lot of these Trump voters. We
Speaker 1: know they come out for Trump only. Maybe she can
Speaker 1: win them over.
Speaker 2: Maybe, But I just doubt it, and.
Speaker 1: I don't think she can. I think she's arrogant enough
Speaker 1: to think she can.
Speaker 2: Well, I think she'll be sorely mistaken. You know, there's
Speaker 2: a site that the Midwesterner reads a lot called wallet Hub,
Speaker 2: and it's rankings of all kinds of different I mean,
Speaker 2: you cited the forty first for education. We just wrote
Speaker 2: a story or published a story about Michigan is thirty
Speaker 2: fifth for working moms, and here you've got three working
Speaker 2: moms as the governor, the Secretary of State, and the
Speaker 2: attorney general and the Senate Majority leader, and yet Michigan's
Speaker 2: thirty fifth. There was a story today that Michigan is
Speaker 2: eleventh for drug problems, so at least we're sort of
Speaker 2: high up in the rankings for something. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: drug problems is something that we should be proud of now.
Speaker 2: But the point is she ignores all of these things.
Speaker 2: She doesn't engage with the media. She will just pretend
Speaker 2: like everything is great. And I guess when you do that,
Speaker 2: you're not fixing problems, but your approval rating remains high.
Speaker 2: So I suppose, for a self serving reason, that's a
Speaker 2: good thing. But there's a whole lot of problems going
Speaker 2: on in Michigan, and she just is I mean, she
Speaker 2: literally I didn't know she travels so much that I
Speaker 2: think people don't even pay attention to it anymore. But
Speaker 2: I read on Monday morning that she was in Los
Speaker 2: Angeles over the weekend for a book festival, and she
Speaker 2: ironically said, I'm not going anywhere. And she said that
Speaker 2: when she's twenty two hundred miles away from Michigan and
Speaker 2: the Michigan media. The Midwesterner wrote about it based on
Speaker 2: a report from the La Times, which did an interview
Speaker 2: with her. The Michigan media didn't even cover it.
Speaker 1: But well, i mean, what does she even mean by
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere? I mean she's got two years
Speaker 1: left of her term. She can't run for anything before
Speaker 1: that anyway, So of course she's not going anywhere. She's
Speaker 1: going to finish out her term. I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: thing she's and that's the thing that they lap up like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's great. Well, she's been going somewhere every time there's
Speaker 1: been an opportunity. She's just been thrown to the side.
Speaker 1: You know, she would have gladly gone to Washington and
Speaker 1: been his vice president, but she was thrown to the side.
Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say before we end is you
Speaker 1: brought up the other people in the state. They're not happy.
Speaker 1: They are all these people that are running for office.
Speaker 1: They are in primaries. Josin Benson's in a primary with
Speaker 1: the lieutenant governor for governor. She is not happy. She's
Speaker 1: calling him out as all the bad things that they say,
Speaker 1: dictator whatever, that you can't cozy up to him. Dana Nessel,
Speaker 1: the attorney general, she's running her own town hall at
Speaker 1: the same time that he's here. I mean, they are
Speaker 1: frustrated with whitmerk Dana Essa when we were at the
Speaker 1: State of the State wouldn't even stand up for her.
Speaker 1: They do not like this, and you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of the legislature that absolutely hates Trump and they are
Speaker 1: going to be it's a struggle because they're mad. Well,
Speaker 1: you said, my Song, one of our state reps was
Speaker 1: mad that they that they didn't have session. They're getting
Speaker 1: Selfridge right.
Speaker 2: So her name is my Song. She's a state representative
Speaker 2: from McComb County, which is where the bases that we're
Speaker 2: talking about. And the speaker who was with the President
Speaker 2: at Selfridge canceled session for that day because you know,
Speaker 2: they were other places. And so my song posts this
Speaker 2: video from the floor of the House of Representatives complaining
Speaker 2: that they don't have session, and.
Speaker 1: So they in her district she's getting in.
Speaker 2: County, Yes, her district is right there. And so it's
Speaker 2: like what Trump has done is he is divided the
Speaker 2: Democrats because Whitmer, as we've been talking, you know, is
Speaker 2: doing what she can to try and get money from him.
Speaker 2: But then you've got Jocelyn Benson, Dana Nessel, etc. Who
Speaker 2: are just foaming at the mouth about how much they
Speaker 2: hate him, and it's like they're trying to outdo each
Speaker 2: other about who hates him more. And so he's got
Speaker 2: them all and then they're you know, criticizing Whitmer, and
Speaker 2: he's got them all fighting with each other.
Speaker 1: It is really the genius of President Trump, because remember,
Speaker 1: you have to get through. They all have to get
Speaker 1: through twenty six, so he can do whatever he wants
Speaker 1: to protect the people of Michigan. And that's his that
Speaker 1: is really his love is the American people. And so
Speaker 1: he is protecting the American people. He promised Michigan, he
Speaker 1: made Michigan promises. He's coming through with them. Whitmer's gone
Speaker 1: in twenty six. She has to start campaigning for president.
Speaker 1: She has wrecked her brand, and then all of these
Speaker 1: people that have said they hate him they have to
Speaker 1: now campaign here. And he knows Slotkin was running with
Speaker 1: him in her commercials, so he knows that he plays
Speaker 1: well in Michigan. If you can destroy Jocelyn Benson and
Speaker 1: Gilchrist and anybody else who's running by having them come
Speaker 1: out now and trash Whitmer, they have no chance or
Speaker 1: they're in trouble. I mean, the Democrats always have a
Speaker 1: lot of money, but I think what he's doing is
Speaker 1: very smart. Yeah, I agree, so we so that to me,
Speaker 1: that was important to break down. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people have gone, oh my goodness, how can he
Speaker 1: cozy up to Whitmer. I will say, I don't love
Speaker 1: when he says she's doing a great job. But he
Speaker 1: has a plan. The guy knows what he's doing. He's
Speaker 1: been incredible these first hundred days. What you talked about
Speaker 1: with and I know you're releasing some of that on
Speaker 1: the Midwesterner, I just want to get that out. What
Speaker 1: you talked about when you were in Washington at the
Speaker 1: White House, some of the stuff about deported deporting people
Speaker 1: that is so critical to the safety of our country
Speaker 1: and so clear that it could happen Instantaneouslee.
Speaker 2: It's I still can't get over the fact that it
Speaker 2: could just happen almost instantly, and just by changing presidents
Speaker 2: and changing policy, you had illegal crossings go from according
Speaker 2: to Tehran, about seven thousand per day under the Biden
Speaker 2: administration to when I talked to him the night before,
Speaker 2: it was less than three hundred, and so you've got
Speaker 2: a and he said, it's a ninety seven percent decrease.
Speaker 2: It's just it's stunning. All because Trump says, don't come
Speaker 2: to the country, we're deporting you, and people are listening
Speaker 2: that to that, and they're changing, changing their tactics.
Speaker 1: Well, and I know they were saying to Tom Homan, oh,
Speaker 1: he said Mexico was going to pay. And Tom Homan
Speaker 1: made a great point, Mexico put troops on the border.
Speaker 1: What do you think that is? And people have been deterred.
Speaker 1: So we I mean, I feel blessed that we were
Speaker 1: asked to be there at the White House for the
Speaker 1: first one hundred day celebration. I hope we'll be able
Speaker 1: to bring more from the White House to you guys,
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll just continue to break some of
Speaker 1: these things down, especially as you see certain people rising
Speaker 1: in the ranks toward twenty eight and we want to
Speaker 1: make sure that we're protecting what's happening. But I think
Speaker 1: also critically, you're going to hear us talk a lot
Speaker 1: about twenty six too, because he has to secure the House.
Speaker 1: He has to make sure that he has the majority
Speaker 1: in the House and the Senate, and there's a big
Speaker 1: Senate seat here there's a few other Senate seats that
Speaker 1: we're going to be watching, so we will continue to
Speaker 1: bring that to you. But thank you so much for
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