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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast as a millionaire producer. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Janzas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? Happy Monday? Wow? I mean

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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, normally becoming on Monday. And

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Speaker 1: it's how we spent a lot of time together as

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Speaker 1: a group this weekend. Maybe too much, did a little

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Speaker 1: seaside um libations, why not sure the whole group. West

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Speaker 1: had his first Hanano Burger since overcoming cancer. Took down

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Speaker 1: the whole damn thing. Yeah you did. You put it

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Speaker 1: all down, put it all away. There was some concern

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Speaker 1: halfway through that, like half of it was just sitting

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Speaker 1: there when I got there and You're like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just had to eat. Then you buried it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: eat really slow. I need like a propeller on the

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Speaker 1: end of my fork. That's funny. And then uh yeah, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you were there too, and the Paramore. It was a nice,

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Speaker 1: nice night out or a day out. And then yesterday

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Speaker 1: I was left with the two boys all weekend while

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Speaker 1: my wife went on a girl's trap sheharned it. She

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Speaker 1: deserved it. No heat from me on that um. Looked

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Speaker 1: like there's some libations on her trip as well, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. And I went over to the Sessler compound

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Speaker 1: yesterday morning, brought the two little rugrats and then all

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Speaker 1: the boys had a lot of fun. Almost suffered like

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Speaker 1: seven head injuries. It was you're, you're so right, like

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Speaker 1: little kids running around nearly bashing into sharp brick corners.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, I when when, especially Dan's older

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Speaker 1: boy Jack, I think, Harrison, you're he's post baby, but

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Speaker 1: he's not quite able to socialize with the rest on

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Speaker 1: the same level. But they were very sad to see

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Speaker 1: Jack leave the front door. Yeah, the front Jack had

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Speaker 1: a great time. Yeah, there was one moment in particular.

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Speaker 1: They all had brushes with death, which is if you

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Speaker 1: don't have young kids, you know this, especially boys, because

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Speaker 1: boys are so stupid, like I myself as well when

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Speaker 1: one point, Luke is running towards and you have this

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Speaker 1: cool little open fire pit and there's brick, pretty sharp

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Speaker 1: edges and everything. I see him right in front of me,

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Speaker 1: loses footing, stumble and then he's going face first towards

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Speaker 1: this edge of brick, and I'm like looking at it

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Speaker 1: like in slow motions, like, oh my god, is this

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Speaker 1: the end? It's just this is it just? It just

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Speaker 1: crashes into his chest and pushes into his stern him

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Speaker 1: and he's not even a worse for the wear. So

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Speaker 1: but that's that's life. As a parent of young UN's flips,

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Speaker 1: I'd say a great move to let the wife go

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Speaker 1: on a girl trip because it buys incredible cachet for

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Speaker 1: your future adventures. It's you, you pay in it should

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Speaker 1: and then you get a payout that exceeds it. Because

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Speaker 1: I don't know how your your marriage is like an

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Speaker 1: ATM machine on some level, Like, um, I set things

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Speaker 1: up in my marriage, and this is the way to

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Speaker 1: do it. If anybody who's not married yet or is

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Speaker 1: maybe not good at it, did you kind of set

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Speaker 1: little you can pull off, like a weekend, like she

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Speaker 1: was worried about this weekend forever, And I was never

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Speaker 1: really worried about. I was just I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: be a lot of work, but never like, am I

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to do this? But she thought that

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Speaker 1: it was gonna be really difficult for me. So now

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Speaker 1: when I get through it, all of a sudden, Father

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Speaker 1: to the Year, No drama, no text, swear swear is

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Speaker 1: that you just you got it done. M excellent manipulation dance.

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Speaker 1: He one day you'll learn what Welcome to the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast Monday edition. A lot to get to. Surprisingly,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of news uh to go through,

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Speaker 1: including a one of the great defenders of the last

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Speaker 1: decade or so, hanging up the cleats as they say,

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Speaker 1: uh and UH, an update on the does Bryant situation?

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Speaker 1: Does Bryant situation? Uh? And then Yes, our quarterback Draft

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Speaker 1: prospect series continues. We're gonna talk about talk about Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield with our friend Chase goodbread carbs. So I reached

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Speaker 1: out to Chase and said, Hey, any of these prospects,

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Speaker 1: which one would you you know, let's get your juice floam,

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Speaker 1: what lights up your Christmas tree? We'll get you hot

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Speaker 1: in the pants Greg Rosenthal style. He said, Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield. Chase is not the only one that's

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Speaker 1: getting hot in the pants about Baker Mayfield. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: are you as a as with the Jets team picking?

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Speaker 1: It's it's a relative wild fire down there right now.

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Speaker 1: Mark the inspiration behind this whole quarterback series. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Chase coming up later, and uh let's get to the

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Speaker 1: news though. And to do that, we say hello to

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Fulton behind the glass. What's up? Hello? Hi? How

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm great? How are you really a millionaire? No,

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Speaker 1: that's a lie, but you green lit that opening anyway

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Speaker 1: for money? I like to keep my finances. Well, you

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Speaker 1: said you were likely a millionaire when you found out

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Speaker 1: that you had some bitcoin. It turned out to be

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Speaker 1: not quite six figures, but significant stuff. The truth because

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Speaker 1: I don't really want like every like high school and

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Speaker 1: you know, kindergarten classmate call me and they're looking for money.

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Speaker 1: So have you unlocked it? At this point? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Do you have it as cash? Yeah, I hope that

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Speaker 1: for a while. I just can't be that much because

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Speaker 1: you're still kind of showing up and punching the clock

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Speaker 1: here day after day, So it can't be too much

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Speaker 1: just to retire on all right, Well, there's there's some honesty.

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Speaker 1: Let's do some news if you were sure. Works to

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Speaker 1: me anyway? The greatest Super Bowl play of all time

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Speaker 1: Steelers great is retiring this time most likely? Uh for real.

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Speaker 1: This isn't the first time Harrison said he was stepping away,

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Speaker 1: but now he's thirty nine years old. Uh. It appeared

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Speaker 1: too much for way too long. I'm done. Many thanks

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Speaker 1: about him again. Yeah, I feel like we've done this

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Speaker 1: Athletic Lisie Cleland one, Cleveland Indians Cabs Browns. Where do

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Speaker 1: you come down in the Cleveland Indians logo controversy. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting into that right now. I'm seeing you

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Speaker 1: up like if you were hosting that podcast, you'd have

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Speaker 1: to have a take. I have a take on it,

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Speaker 1: but you don't want to share it on This means

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Speaker 1: that you're pro wahu because you know, just let's save

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Speaker 1: it for the controversial mascot pick podcast. Moving on, Sea

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Speaker 1: Beast by the way, you know, yeah, living out his

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Speaker 1: final days. It's the end of the road. Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: the Sea Bass has found a new home upstream in

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Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. Oh yeah, it's a Mark Seessler banger.

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Speaker 1: You know what. That's no, you know what. I am off.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday. I am often fifteen minutes and this news

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Speaker 1: gets dropped in my lap, and so I am going

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Speaker 1: to write it as fast as possible. I could tell

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Speaker 1: this is about a hundred and seventy words. But a fury.

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Speaker 1: The veteran kicker signed a one year deal with the Seahawks. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This was reported by Rap Sheep. A team then confirmed

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Speaker 1: the move. Of course, Sea Bass was not kicking last

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Speaker 1: year he was a member of the Raidar Raiders, but

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Speaker 1: he had like, what was that a back issue last year?

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Speaker 1: Injured reserve the injured, yes, uh. And then the Raiders

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Speaker 1: moved on without Sea Bass. And now he catches on

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Speaker 1: in Seattle. Oh you like this one? Mark, feels like

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Speaker 1: a pretty fun signing by the Sea I love it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we were all waiting for him

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Speaker 1: to get back in the league somewhere, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's on the gray Beards already. But well that's true

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Speaker 1: from that angle, that's a big loss for you. Um,

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Speaker 1: there are other kickers out there. But I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think this. I would love to see the Seattle's

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Speaker 1: had some you know, some weird stuff with their kickers

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Speaker 1: for a long time now. I don't know if the

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Speaker 1: Sea Bass is the He's got to stay healthy, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I know. But it's the same time, like

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Speaker 1: I what do I want the NFL with him or

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Speaker 1: without him? With him? Please? I wasn't saying, like Mark,

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Speaker 1: he's by the way I'm writing these leads to the

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Speaker 1: science simply too simply to make you have to read them.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to. I just enjoy them. They're they're fun.

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Speaker 1: Did you have anything to do with the head line

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Speaker 1: which is on fire Seattle Sea Bass. No, it was no,

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Speaker 1: hang on. It was actually in the another headline, Sea

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Speaker 1: Bass in Seattle Colon, which is very nice take on sleep.

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Speaker 1: I talked to NFL Media programming on that one. I

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Speaker 1: did not cook that up. And then whoever altered the

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Speaker 1: headline in the post lost the complete nuance of it

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Speaker 1: and just made it Seattle Sea Bass. Let's conduct ship

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Speaker 1: that to David Eally. See how that he go? Can't

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Speaker 1: you just well, I mean that's he runs. Can't you

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Speaker 1: just see like the year is twenty and they're like,

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Speaker 1: it's today. We welcome Sebastian Janikowski to raise the twelfth

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Speaker 1: man flag. He hit the game winner of the wild

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Speaker 1: card game in two thousand nine. That's when he's coming back.

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Speaker 1: So I missed the bit because I was conferring with

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Speaker 1: West about something on the podcast, and my apologies. A

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Speaker 1: very solid bit. Yeah you probably deserve some pop there,

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Speaker 1: but sort of a Seahawks game, I'd like to be

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Speaker 1: tuned out. It's good. I distracted him with my handwriting,

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Speaker 1: and you know, but it was probably good. There is

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Speaker 1: news that West reminded me of that Eric Kendricks of

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Speaker 1: the Vikings signed a five year, fifty million dollar extension

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Speaker 1: with the team in West. I'll get right to you

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Speaker 1: on this because you reminded me of it. What's the

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Speaker 1: deal with Eric Kendricks? You like that? Well? He's the

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Speaker 1: first Vikings defender since Rip Hawkins in nineteen sixty one

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Speaker 1: to nineteen sixty four to lead the team in total

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Speaker 1: tackles in each of his first three seasons. He's the

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Speaker 1: beating heart of that front seven, which is one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the NFL. And for all of this

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Speaker 1: idea that the Vikings wouldn't be able to pay their

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Speaker 1: nucleus players after paying Kirk Cousins, They're up to a

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Speaker 1: pretty good start there they have. They already have Harrison Smith,

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Speaker 1: Zavier Rhodes, Everson Griffin, Lynval Joseph locked up. All these

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Speaker 1: guys are all pros, and Pro Bowlers Anthony Barr and

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Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter are next on the list. They'll have to

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Speaker 1: pay Stephon Digs too, but I think it points to

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Speaker 1: how well Rick Spielman has drafted, especially on defense. Wouldn't

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Speaker 1: surprise me if bar is near the top of our

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Speaker 1: free agent rankings a year from now. I would have

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Speaker 1: been surprised, you know, three years ago that Kendricks would

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Speaker 1: have been such a priority over Bar. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: anymore because he's kind of turned into the core key player.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if they're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: keep Anthony Barr long term, and I don't necessarily believe

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Speaker 1: they probably feel like they have to. I think Kendricks

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Speaker 1: to them is is the bigger difference maker. Finally, Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton is not thrilled. He's not flying, He's not over

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Speaker 1: the moon about this draft class. Uh, specifically the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: UH telling Monday Morning Quarterback that there is no prospect

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Speaker 1: as good as UH Andrew Luck or Carson Wentz in

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Speaker 1: this draft, and he added this, I'd feel a little

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Speaker 1: bit uneasy if I were at the top of this

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Speaker 1: draft and I decided I had to have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Pay attention Mark and myself. The pressure to get a

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Speaker 1: quarterback is so great in this league. I get that,

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Speaker 1: but we can't create him. I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: only one of these guys is left standing in four

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Speaker 1: or five years. WHOA And if so, I guess it

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Speaker 1: would be Sam Donald. Uh. Your thoughts on that, Mark Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't think he's the first person to come

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Speaker 1: out and say there is no but out of the league,

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Speaker 1: or I guess I think odds tell you that if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pick five in the first half of the

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Speaker 1: first round, probably two of them are legit three or

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Speaker 1: four years from now. I mean, you'd wanted to be more.

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Speaker 1: All I'd say, though, is that even when Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: now you're saying none of these, no one is Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: When Carson Wentz was in this same exact part of

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Speaker 1: the process, opinions on him were all over the map.

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Speaker 1: And even after Carson wentz first season, people weren't convinced

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Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz. And a year ago. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: nice in October when everyone can say I knew to

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Speaker 1: Shaun Watson was going to blow up and make the

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Speaker 1: Texans offense the most fun thing to watch in the league.

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Speaker 1: But at this time a year ago, there weren't a

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Speaker 1: lot of people hot on DeShawn Watson either. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's see a bit of revisionist history from Sean Payton

545
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Speaker 1: putting how Wentz was evaluated on par with Andrew Luck,

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Speaker 1: who was viewed as the most can't miss prospects since

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Speaker 1: lay or Peyton money. Whereas Wentz, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: did believe in him, but he had a lot of

549
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Speaker 1: doubters too. Maybe maybe, just maybe it's he's being honest,

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Speaker 1: because it's surprising to hear just because you would think

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Speaker 1: he'd be in the market for a quarterback, especially considering

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Speaker 1: it's a great sliding doors moment for the NFL, like

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Speaker 1: they were gonna take Patrick Mahomes like that had been reported.

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Speaker 1: A couple of people within the Saints said that they

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Speaker 1: were ready to do it. They wind up with Marshawn

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Speaker 1: Lattimore instead. Maybe he doesn't see a guy that he

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Speaker 1: would take. You know that he would have been as

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00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: excited about as he was with Mahomes, and that makes well.

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Speaker 1: I think he's also saying, if you're if you're up

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Speaker 1: there at number one and number three and there's these

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Speaker 1: teams that listen and barring something totally unexpected, you are

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Speaker 1: going quarterback, and you're kind of stuck in a position

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Speaker 1: to take one because you not had one in your

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Speaker 1: fan base. Unless you're like forty years old, you don't

565
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Speaker 1: remember the Jets are Browns are filling the blank bills

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Speaker 1: having one of the players, you're pressured into making this move,

567
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Speaker 1: and that's where you're get into trouble with a front

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Speaker 1: office and coaching staff. And by the way, if you

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Speaker 1: are asking, because I for a second passed my mind

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Speaker 1: as well, which was, let's Sean Payton know about, you know,

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Speaker 1: developing a quarterback from scratch and all that. He had

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees fall into his lap and they've been flying

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Speaker 1: ever since. He was the Dallas Cowboys quarterbacks coach and

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Speaker 1: assistant coach back in two thousand three through two thousand five,

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Speaker 1: which is right when Tony Romo came. He Cowboys would

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Speaker 1: not have had Tony Romo if it were not for

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Was he connected to the Quincy Carter Chad

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson era in Dallas. Uh. He started in two thousand three,

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Speaker 1: so you can do. But he's he he went they

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Speaker 1: both he and Romo went to the same school, and

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Speaker 1: he he lobbied hard for Tony Romo and is the

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Speaker 1: huge reason that the Cowboys went with him. He was

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Speaker 1: also the University of Illinois quarterbacks coach for a single

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Speaker 1: season at night, had a great job with Carrie Collins

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Speaker 1: in New York. I think that was what really helped

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Speaker 1: national notice. He was the quarterbacks coach for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, then promoted Greg to offensive coordinator. Wasn't John

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Speaker 1: Fox the de coordinator on that team? He sure was? Was?

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Speaker 1: I believe he was good staff. Nice staff. When you're

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Speaker 1: taking the top of the chain. Who was it Mark

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Speaker 1: Jim Fossils for the Giants? Oh? Please? W f a

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Speaker 1: n NonStop chatter on Jim Fossil back in the days.

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Speaker 1: His son a talented special teams. We can let John Fossil.

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Speaker 1: That's Bones Bones. Wait, John Fossils, the ABC correspondent. What's

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Speaker 1: his name? Is it John Fossil? The who's Jim Fossil's son,

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Speaker 1: Jim Fossils Bones? Oh, Bones is Jim? Yeah? Bones is

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Speaker 1: his son? Yeah? The Rams special the best special teams.

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Speaker 1: The next episode will have our next edition of tales

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Speaker 1: from the two thousand one Giants Wikipedia page. John Fossil

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Speaker 1: was the Giants code you're thinking of Stossel and then

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Speaker 1: went the news guy and then went to the UFL

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Speaker 1: Jim Fossil is John Fossil's son? Is that right? You're

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Speaker 1: the other way around? Dan? Briefly, Naane dropped John Stossel,

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Speaker 1: the news man. That guy wasn't afraid to get the

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Speaker 1: heavy news and fossil mustache and Mark Sanchez got suspended

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Speaker 1: four games. That is not good for agency stock. That's

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Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. All right, just kind of

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Speaker 1: rolling over Sanchez. Do you do we have anything to

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Speaker 1: say the news bomb third string quarterback Lass Room. Is

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Speaker 1: he even in the league. He's a free agent and

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Speaker 1: that is not going to help him get a gig.

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Speaker 1: Just one of many, you know, members from that Jets

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Speaker 1: team to eventually end in ruin. Are you talking about

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, Mark's best friend. I don't know how these

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Speaker 1: guys are all making. They have made a lot of

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Speaker 1: money and they will continue to make a lot of

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Speaker 1: We uh, call Rex right now. Talk about Mark. We

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Speaker 1: discussed this. We'll do it at a time that fits. Cold.

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Speaker 1: Call Mark Sanche's call the news. You can call Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: He had a tattoo. He did have a tattoo of

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanche. Not happening. Let's call them, Let's call them,

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Speaker 1: baby up next. It is the continuation of our draft

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Speaker 1: quarterback series. Oh yeah, guys, we need to talk about

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, the Oklahoma Star, three year star, a starter

647
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma one won a whole messa games, won the

648
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy last year. Also a little bit of heat,

649
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, a little controversy. I know you bounced around

650
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: at some universities throughout your younger years, matriculated several different places. Um,

651
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: and you probably got yourself in a little bit of

652
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: trouble here and there. I would say, maybe Mayfield type trouble.

653
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: Maybe a little incident at a food truck. I never

654
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: beamed anyone in the head on purpose. Maybe made an

655
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: obscene gesture at some point. I'm not big on obscene gestures. Alright,

656
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: another man not big on obscene gestures because he's a

657
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: Southern gentleman of the highest order. His name is Chase Goodbread.

658
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: He writes he's our lead writer. I don't even know

659
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: if that's the title, but I'm gonna call him the

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00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: lead writer for our college football coverage on NFL dot com.

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00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: Uh Carbs, what's up, buddy? Welcome back to the Around

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00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. Glad to be back in here after

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00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 1: that that debut around the Combine. Good to be in Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you were a breakout star at the Combine, and uh,

665
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I did. I might be springing this on you, but

666
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: at the end of this conversation, because I did tease

667
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: it at the Combine, I'm gonna need your top five

668
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: drive by Trucker's songs. Let's save that for the end,

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00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: and I hope you have it on the top of

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00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: your head. Chase. It's a little pressure, alright, very good, Um, alright, confidence.

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00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: So I reached out to Chase because Chase, uh, you know,

672
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: he's a dude. He fild it last time was on

673
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: the show and I said, we have uh x y

674
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: Z prospects to talk about, and which one jumps out

675
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: to you or that the one that you would like

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00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: to talk about the most. And you did not hesitate, Chase.

677
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: You said, give me Baker Mayfield. Tell me why Mayfield

678
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: is a guy that you wanted to talk about on

679
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: our show. Yeah, he's so intriguing with his skill set,

680
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: with his personality. He's kind of an al liar among

681
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks in the draft in those ways. So

682
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's gonna be a fun watch no matter

683
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: how things play out for him. And it's such a

684
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: quarterback rich draft, and it's looking like there's so much

685
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: interest at the quarterback with the Jets moving up the

686
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: way they did. The Bills have already moved up once.

687
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Who knows if they'll try to move up again. It's

688
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be a good time. And and uh,

689
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: Mayfield's I kind of think Mayfield is gonna break out

690
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: and be the guy that I mean, I guess you

691
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: could say Jared Office already kind of that guy because

692
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: he played in a kind of a cousin of the Ara.

693
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: You know, this air raid college offense has gotten this

694
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: horrible reputation as an offense that just does not translate

695
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: at all in the NFL. And Jared Goff being so

696
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: strong as he was in year two coming out of

697
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: that Cow offense, which was a cousin of the air raide.

698
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: They called it the Bear Ray. Of course at Cow.

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00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: Mayfield played in an air raid cousin too at Oklahoma,

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00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: And uh, I think he's I think he's gonna do

701
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: just fine at the next level. So if golf was

702
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: the first and then I think Mayfield to be the second.

703
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: If he was an inch and a half taller, would

704
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: he be the no brainer number one pick? I don't

705
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: know if he'd be a no brainer because you know,

706
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: there there's there's so much talent with Donald and some

707
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: of these other guys involved. I don't know, I don't

708
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that no brainer is as a label

709
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: that I would put on it. But he would definitely, Uh,

710
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: he would, he would definitely grade better. I think, uh,

711
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: it's a kid. The heights a concern, it has to be.

712
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: There's only a couple of quarterbacks that short in the

713
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: NFL Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, and that's pretty much it.

714
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: So so that's definitely something that he's going to have

715
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: to get past, and uh, layding with the right team

716
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: will be a big part of that for him. I mean,

717
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: I know you you find him to be the most

718
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: fascinating quarterback of the group. If you are a GM

719
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: sitting at you know you got your first pick of quarterbacks.

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00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: Where does he fall in this group? Is he your

721
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: number one guy? And why can I not imagine you

722
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: answering every one of these questions with like a tumbler

723
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: of bourbon Bourbon in your hand just feels that way

724
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: with you. Chase, Uh, well, yeah, I think he probably

725
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: would be just said, well, well, yes, I am drunk.

726
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Now I continue my statements. I'm looking forward to seeing

727
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: a Lamar Jackson pans out too. We talked about that

728
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: last time. I think Jackson's uh an electric player and

729
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: a kind of a wild card in this whole thing too.

730
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: And it's if you go back and look at past drafts,

731
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: you can see it all over the place. You know

732
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: that that it doesn't fall the way it's drafted in

733
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: terms of who's gonna shake out the best. I mean,

734
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: you know, look at Derek Carr for instance. I think

735
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: he was the fourth quarterback picked in his draft and

736
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: he's turned out great for the Raiders. It's just you

737
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: just never know. It takes more than a year, takes

738
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: a couple of three years. But Mayfield is going to

739
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: be fun. And you know his uh he's got that

740
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: big chip on his shoulder too, which I know is

741
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: is going to be uh something He'll probably have to

742
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: reign back a little bit, you know. I don't know

743
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: if y'all saw. A couple of weeks ago, it was

744
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: reported that he actually keeps a list of medium members

745
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: that he feels like have been overly critical of him.

746
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: This guy's great. That's probably an edge you'll have to

747
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: smooth over a little bit. But don't you want an

748
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback with an edge? Don't you want an NFL

749
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: quarterback with an edge? I mean, I know some of

750
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: the stuff he's done. It to me, it sounds like

751
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: what NFL teams will want out of their quarterback, that

752
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: insane competitive level. I think it's good to have that

753
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: motivational edge. I think it's good to have a chip

754
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: on your shoulder. But I also think that if you're

755
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: rabbit ears are too tall for criticism, that can be

756
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: a bad thing, especially if you land in a in

757
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: a huge market like New York. You know, let's let's

758
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: say the Jets end up with with Baker Mayfield and

759
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 1: he has a rough go. Is his his first couple

760
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: of years as a starter. To me, he better have

761
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: some extra blank pages in the back of that notebook

762
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: where he's keeping the track of all this. That's like

763
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: my question with it, is you're keeping this list? Is

764
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: it guys to shun the guys to seek out to

765
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: do interviews with? Are you looking to assassinate these reporters like,

766
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: what is a hit list? Is it a hit list?

767
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: What is it exactly? I don't even understand it. Yeah,

768
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: well I think only Baker's seen it more more than likely.

769
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: But uh, you know who who knows it's It's probably

770
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: just something he's kind of keeping new himself and maybe

771
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: an opportune time. Are you do you think you're on

772
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: a card? Who knows? You know him? In the fall?

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00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I was overly critical. I thought it

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00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: was pretty fair. But but but who knows, Maybe I'll

775
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: maybe I'll find out one day. Don't you think the

776
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: perception of the spread or air raid quarterbacks and even

777
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: his size has changed over the last few years to

778
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: the point that we are talking about Baker Mayfield as

779
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: a top ten pick because it doesn't seem like it's

780
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: really hurting his stock, whereas maybe if he was coming out,

781
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, when Russell Wilson was coming out or a

782
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: few years back, that maybe teams would look at him

783
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: differently because it doesn't seem like there's a ton of

784
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: doubt pff at a great note that you know, they

785
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: keep track of something they call basically NFL throws. And

786
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: and even though he has all those easy throws in

787
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: that offense. They thought he had the eighth most NFL

788
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: throws in terms of attempts of any quarterback in the

789
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: kind tree last year, and they rated him as the

790
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: most effective quarterback in the country on those types of throws.

791
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: I would think at this point the team should be

792
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: looking at what he did and think, wait, that translates

793
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: to the NFL. That looks a lot like what the

794
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: Eagles UH did in the playoffs. Throughout the fact that

795
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: he can handle the ball well, the fact that he's

796
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: clearly good at play action, UH, that he's versatile, that

797
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: he can be in the shotgun. It's like that is

798
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: NFL football now, or at least it's a lot closer

799
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: to it, don't you think. Yeah, the NFL has definitely

800
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: trended more towards UH catering to the spread, this college

801
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: spread offense, doing things that these college quarterbacks are more

802
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: comfortable with. You definitely see that. But the air raid

803
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: has been a little bit of an outlier for that.

804
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting, you know the history of Mike

805
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Leach at Washington State is basically the active godfather of

806
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 1: the air raid, and Lincoln Riley, who's the head coach

807
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, kind I learned at the foot of Mike Leach,

808
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: and when he left Leach and Texas Tech went on

809
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: did his own thing. He took the head job at

810
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: East Carolina, he tweaked it, he changed it. He kind

811
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: of he created something a little bit different. So what

812
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: you have at Oklahoma isn't exactly the pure air raid.

813
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: And one of the things that makes it different is

814
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: is that Baker Mayfield had a lot of control at

815
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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage at Oklahoma, Whereas in a lot

816
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: of air raids, the quarterback is really just looking over

817
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: the sideline and and and getting all his cues. Mayfield

818
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: had more audible authority and um just ran things, you know,

819
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: changing protections and all that kind of stuff that will

820
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: help him at the next level. A lot he to

821
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: me is the there like effort, let's just go for

822
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: it guy to take in this draft. I'm thinking about

823
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: the Jets with a three pick because it could go

824
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: terribly wrong. It could go as wrong potentially as Men's

825
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: l went in Cleveland. Although it's maybe unfair to say

826
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: that they're the same type of guy, because it's not

827
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: the same issues that we know of, But that it

828
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: could be this guy that's all all style and no

829
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: actual substance. But there's a lot of differences in their

830
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: game as well. Like this, any talk about Manziel and

831
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: Mayfield has been about some of the off the field

832
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: stuff and the swagger type stuff, like these are very different,

833
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: uh football players, right Jays, they are. And I kind

834
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: of dealt with that a little bit in the feature story.

835
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Speaker 1: You know, it's people wanna lump Mayfield and Manziel into

836
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: the same category because they have, you know, they had

837
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: they were so brash at the college level. They they've

838
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: had a you know, an incentent or two off the field, etcetera.

839
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: And they're playing style was a little on the reckless

840
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: side for sure. So there are a lot of superficial similarities.

841
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: I guess you could say similarities on the surface, but

842
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: when you dig a little deeper, um, there are some

843
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: big differences. Mayfield, for instance, I think at least scouts

844
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: have told me, had far better footwork than Manzil. Uh

845
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: did a better job as seeing the field than Manzil,

846
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he he didn't exactly have Mike

847
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: Evans where he could just tossle robs like Manzil. Did

848
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Speaker 1: and get tons of production, uh from a guy that

849
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: was just bigger and stronger and taller than everybody else

850
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: to catch the ball like Evans was seems like it

851
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: seems like if there's a concern for him, he relies

852
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: a lot on his athleticism. But but he reminded me

853
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 1: a little bit of like he's not he's not quite

854
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Like he's very careful, he doesn't turn the

855
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Speaker 1: ball over too much, but he waits until someone's open.

856
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: And that would be my concern with him, is that, like,

857
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: if you're relying on your athleticism at the next level,

858
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: he's not quite Tyrod Taylor. Athletically, no one is quite

859
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, uh in terms of their ability to make

860
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: plays after scrambles. And if he's overly relying at that

861
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: at the next level like that, that's a bit of

862
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: a concern. I know he's very accurate and everything, but

863
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: he seemed he seemed like he was a guy who

864
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: sometimes would be waiting a little too long for the

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Speaker 1: play to develop. Yeah, Manziel kind of wanted to touch

866
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: down on every snap. And and even though Mayfield's got

867
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: the instinct to extend the play and always try to

868
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: make something out of nothing. I think Mayfield definitely has

869
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a sense of field position,

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00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: scoreboard situation. You know, will the field goal do here?

871
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: You know that kind of thing. So, uh, you know,

872
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: all that plays into it. But but it's and you know,

873
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: be fun to see him in Miami, right And I

874
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: think a couple of the mic drafts on NFL media

875
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: have got to have got a mock to to the Dolphins,

876
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: So that'll be and and that could end up working

877
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: out if if the Donalds and the Rosins and those

878
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: guys go first, where interesting players go to disappear my

879
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: I mean, chase before we let you go, Before we

880
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: get into our top five drive by Trucker's songs, I

881
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: want to touch on that long form that you put

882
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: out last week on Dubuque cornerback Michael Joseph, who was

883
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: one of the best stories of the draft. You want

884
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: to just give people a little heads up what the

885
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: story is about and then we could send them in

886
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: your direction. Yeah. Absolutely, Michael Joseph is not an amual

887
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: here on the on the first day or probably the

888
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: second day either it'll be a third day pick, maybe

889
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: an oh late pick. He's from the University of Dubuque,

890
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: which is a walk on program in Iowa. It's a

891
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: Division three program. He was a hundred and thirty pounds

892
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: in high school, five ft eight and was totally unrecruited.

893
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted him, and he managed to kind of halfway

894
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: sneak his way onto the roster at Dubuque. And from there.

895
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: The story is kind of Disney like. He put on

896
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: you know, ten pounds a year. He he wasn't even

897
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: part of the team. Actually his first year on campus,

898
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: had to work out on his own, and you know,

899
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: kept getting a little bigger and kept getting a little

900
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: stronger and a little taller, and it took a whole

901
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: lot of work, and there was a lot of adversity involved.

902
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: But on the other side of it, he comes out

903
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 1: the best. He got an award is the best small

904
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: school defensive back in the country. Uh. He's now six one,

905
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: roughly had a pro day at Iowa State where he

906
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: ran uh in the low four fives, and uh, you know,

907
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: to to go from where he was to where he

908
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: is is pretty remarkable. I love them. I read this

909
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: this morning, and you talk about how Michael Joseph had

910
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: two on his own put together a highlight reel of

911
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: his what I think it was sixteen plays he played

912
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: on the high school team, and the first play was

913
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: an incompletion where he nearly was burnt for a touchdown,

914
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: and his friend was like, this video needs some work.

915
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: That sounds like my high school highlight tape, by the way,

916
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: so we gotta tak something else. He actually he uh

917
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: when he finished the first cut of his highlight video

918
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: that he was going to try to get himself recruited with,

919
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: it was less than three minutes long, and he thought

920
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: that was too short, so he went back and added

921
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: all the opposing quarterbacks pre snapped cadences to lengthen stretch

922
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: it out and second and then his friend mentioned that

923
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: he's like every play is in garbage time. There's a

924
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: lot of work needs to be done on this sizzle

925
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: reel Michael Joseph. It was all he had, but I

926
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: guess it was enough. Did they give you a vanity

927
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: your all on this chase for people to go check

928
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: it out? NFL dot com slash Michael Joseph beautiful, so

929
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: check that out. And last, but not least, this is

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00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: what everybody's been waiting for. And if you don't know

931
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: drive by truckers, tell me if this is a good

932
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: way to introduce them to the audience. They're they're from Athens, Georgia,

933
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: been around about twenty years now. Great like kind of

934
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: southern rock guitar guitar rock type band and country all

935
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: country like a great bar band, almost that that went

936
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: went big. Is that there only one slight correction. They're

937
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: they're actually from Muscle Shoals of Alabama. Oh my goodness,

938
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: that's a big correction. I apologize, that's sorry. Athens is

939
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: where they um kind of pulled themselves together as a band.

940
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: But the roots are definitely in Muscle Shoals, which is

941
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: steeped and music history, as I'm sure you all know.

942
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm writing a long form on that right now.

943
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: There's a great there used to be a great documentary

944
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: on Netflix about the Muscle Shoals music scene. Really, if

945
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: they canceled out there, you wouldn't move through the list

946
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: of people that that recorded there. All Right, here we go,

947
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: it's time for the top five. Do it. Let's start

948
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: with five and go to one, alright, five to one,

949
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: Ghost to most, Ghost to most number five, Uh, cotton

950
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: Seed at four. Also Mike Cooley, he eathens Uh Patterson

951
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: hood song that I like a whole bunch, got some

952
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: really good slide guitar from Jason Isabel and that one

953
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: who's no longer with the band. What number that's number three? Uh?

954
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: Heathens three, number three? Heathens Uh sans of Ewa Jima.

955
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: Oh wow? That hit number two? Yeah? Two? And then

956
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: the number one. Wait, wait, let me get let's build

957
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: this up a little timpani please. The number one? Uh?

958
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: Question about it? That is uh to me? Zip City

959
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: is is the drive by truckers Stairway to Heaven? Zip City?

960
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: And I would play a portion of it right now

961
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: if the Shadowy League figures weren't so afraid of their

962
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: own shadows. Unfortunately, so instead you'll just have to look

963
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: it up. Zip City off Southern Rock Opera. There you go,

964
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: five essential drive by Truckers on some Chase Goodbread again.

965
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: Check him out on Twitter at Chase Goodbread. Is that correct? Yes, yes, sir,

966
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: And check out his new long form on Michael Joseph

967
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: And thank you very much forgiving us a little Baker

968
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: Mayfield insight. Chase good to hear from you. Carbs. Alright

969
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: enjoyed a guy. All right, there he goes Carbs off

970
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: into that good night. I meant to ask him because

971
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: it was there was an irony to the last time

972
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: we saw him at the combine. A man that some

973
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: people called Carbs had cut out Carbs. He was denying

974
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: himself himself, right, which was that's a tough thing to do.

975
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: You would think maybe that would be a long stretch

976
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: that was a long time agoin bod would be pretty

977
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: tight if he was still do next time he's on

978
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: the show. A reminder on Friday, self, Hayton stuff right there,

979
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: can't even have a reminder next Friday or this Friday.

980
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: The return of your the gm uh and uh ready

981
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: for that? And um that's it. Anybody else have anything

982
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: to say about today in the NFL? I got no dukes.

983
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: My sweater bro it's making his debut on the podcast.

984
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: See that I noticed it. Well, it's a little, you know,

985
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: sneaky cool today in l A A little bit, a

986
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: little bit of a breeze, alright, he says, as there's

987
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: twenty three inches of snow and green Bay stand designing

988
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: got four a quiet storm, the mailman, the old Boss

989
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: and this money bags Lindsay fault Time behind the Glass

990
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: until Wednesday