1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 1: is the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: branding expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In in case you didn't notice, I'm 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: not broke. You know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: and industry decision make because it's what he likes to do. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: It's what he likes to share. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: money making conversations. 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Here we go. Welcome to money Making Conversations. I'm your host, 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: Rashan McDonald. It is important to understand that everybody travels 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: a different path to success. That's because your brand is different, 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: the challenges you facing your life are different. So you 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: need to start reading other people's success stories and really 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: start writing your own. Now you can be motivated by 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: his success. Don't get it wrong, I want you to 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: do that. I want you to understand what they've done, 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: But what they've done is what they've done. What you 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: have to do is plan your own path, your own 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: level of understanding, based on your own abilities, and set 21 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: your goals and put forth one hundred percent effort. Next 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: guest is one of those one hundred percenters. His name 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: is Rob Hardy. He's a graduate of fam Mute. He 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: directs some of the TV's hottest shows, including PowerBook two, Ghosts, 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: PowerBooks three, Raising Kanaan that comes out this summer product 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: was Sung Evil, Shameless, Blackish, Star Girl, How to Get 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: Away with Murder, The Flash, Criminal Minds, among others. Rob 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: Hardy also executive produced a number of movies that you're 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: familiar with, No Good Deeds, Think Like a Man, That's Me, 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: Stuff with Yard Plus. His Fun Foundation identifies trains and 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: mentors adults career seekers from diverse background to pursue lucrative 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: and lasting opportunities in the charge of film and television workforce. 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: Please welcome. He was on my show before we got 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: a long fantastic guy. I think we're gonna do business 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. Please welcome to the show money 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Making Conversations that is Rob Hardy. Hey, Rob, Hey, how 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: you doing? 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: Hey? 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: Rob? 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: A lot to say about. 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: You, Hey, Happy twenty one man, and listen. 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 5: I appreciate all the shout outs I do. 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you know the thing about it row. First 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: of all, one of the reasons I brought you on 45 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: the show. First of all, the first time I interviewed 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: you was amazing because you're one of those those solid warriors. 47 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: You know, you're out there, man, just flip the script 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: you do. You're not just a minority or black director. 49 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: Your resume includes a diverse platform of sci fi, comedy, drama. 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: How do you walk in all those different shoes? 51 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 5: You know? 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: It's you know, when I'm working, it's all about the story, 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 4: and I love different types of stuff, you know what 54 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So whether it is sci fi or teen dramas, 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: or drug dealers or relationships or doctors, I think that 56 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's all about a 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: human story and trying to figure out what that is. 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: And then you get a chance to play in like 59 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: the different world. So today we're in space, you know, small, 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: we're in the South Bronx, so you know that and 61 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 4: everything in between. 62 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 5: I'm here for that. 63 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: And it's amazing because I wanted to bring on the 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: show because in twenty twenty, you know, it's amazing year 65 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: COVID head civil unrests, but one jewel started shining in 66 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. That's HBCUs and you an HBCU alarm 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: of the infamous fam Mute. 68 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 4: Absolutely, man the Highest and Seven Hills located in sunny Tallahassee, Florida. Absolutely, 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm a family rattler and that school has been everything 70 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: to me and it basically laid this foundation for me 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: and a bunch of other people from our era to 72 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: really come and try to do our thing. 73 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 5: So I love family. 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: Okay, cool. So where are you originally from and how 75 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: did you pick FAM You to pursue your higher education. 76 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: I grew up in Philadelphia, Philly, PA. And my mom 77 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: wound up taking a job in Florida and she said, hey, 78 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: you know, you should apply to an. 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 5: In state school so we could afford it. 80 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: And so I wound up getting to FAM You that way, 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: and you know, we had a degree and got a 82 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: degree in engineering and it was probably like the best, 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: one of the best experiences ever because it was so many, 84 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: you know, different types of people from all over the 85 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: world that looked just like me that were going to school, 86 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 4: but they also had like a hustle and a passion 87 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: and it was just the vibe and the energy, you know, 88 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: being at our school at that time, that just made 89 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: you want to go and make moves. 90 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 5: And we felt like, you know. 91 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 4: If anybody in the world was going to do it, 92 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: it was going to be the Fam you and that 93 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: was gonna do it. 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 5: That was kind of like the energy that that school 95 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 5: gave us. 96 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: Well a really interesting rob I didn't go to HBCU 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: A graduated from University of Houston and Houston, Texas. Texas 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: Southern was right down the street. Further down the street 99 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: was Prey of View. The next day was Southern Grambling. 100 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: But Fam you man has always had that mystique, you know, 101 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: put us in your shoes because I really need to know. 102 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: I'm from the outside and I get excited when I say, 103 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: famm you. 104 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 4: Why because you know, Fam you was a unique place 105 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: or is a unique place, because it's always been the 106 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 4: Fam you swag, the Fam you hustle, and you know, 107 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: we always kind of felt like, when you go to FAM, yeah, 108 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: you got this major whatever that is, But then what's 109 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: your hustle, what's your passion? Like, what do you really 110 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: want to do? And everybody has some version of that, 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: right and we were cool. So we could go, we 112 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: could we could study, we could party, we could hang 113 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: out and do everything in between, but there was always 114 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: this kind of undercurrent of I want to do something, 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: I want to change the world, I want to make 116 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: something happen. 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 5: And we were always doing that at school. 118 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: And you know, so many of my friends when I 119 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: look out, they're out there making it happen. And also too, 120 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: because you know, we were state school, so it wasn't 121 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 4: like you know, some of the other HBCUs that were 122 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: kind of like, you know, annoying or the Crown Jewels 123 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 4: or whatever fami you we were. We were always you know, solid, 124 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: uh you know, and always were respected, but we always 125 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 4: felt like we were outsiders kind of and we love that. 126 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: And so because of that, it gave us a different 127 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: kind of edge. So when we broke into the industry, 128 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: we took that family attitude with us to say, hey, 129 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: we rattlers. 130 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 5: We here and we're gonna bring some other ratlers with us. 131 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: And so we were like, you know, your cool cousins 132 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: that come around and make the party lave. That's that's 133 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: kind of you know, how we were and how we 134 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: still are. 135 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know the funny part about this, Rob, the 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: more you talk, man, the more animated you become. Your 137 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: smile get bigger, and you get the bouncing, you know, 138 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: like a boxer. 139 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: It's listen, it's just something me and you. The more 140 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: you talk about it, you just feel that. So I 141 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: just you know, anytime I get a chance to show 142 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: off my. 143 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 5: School, you know, I always always got to do that. 144 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: We know, the interesting thinking about it. I know how 145 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: college played a role of my life. I always tell 146 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: people what I'm doing now is what I did when 147 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: I was in college. You know, production, the live events, 148 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: all those things were nurtured in college. In college, like, 149 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: your degree is an engineering, but now you're a director entertainment. 150 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: And you met some Will Packer there and he was 151 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: his degree is not an entertainment related field either. So 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: how did that relationship come about and led to stump 153 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: the y'all? 154 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: So Will and I met at a pre college engineering 155 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: program called ECI at FAMU. 156 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: And so it's like right before our freshman. 157 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: Year, they bring in all these engineering students that are 158 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: going to be going to the school. And you know, 159 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 4: I was a guy that thought I was going to 160 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: another school but didn't get the money. He thought he 161 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: was going to another school but didn't get the money. 162 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: We wound up at FAM, you and we became fast friends. 163 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: And what came out over our hanging out over that 164 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: summer was that I wanted to be the filmmaker. 165 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 5: I was a big Spike Lee. 166 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: And John Singleton and Robert Townsend fan, and he wanted 167 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: to be a businessman, a businessman and have his own business. 168 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: So just as we were hanging out and being friends 169 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: and then we became lyon brothers, were both alphas. Then 170 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: when I wound up seeing Ministers Society, you know, because 171 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: that was the big movie in theaters, a few friends 172 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 4: of mine were like, well, hey, since you did a 173 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: small movie in high school, you want to do something here. 174 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: And then that gave Will and I a chance to 175 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 4: do a project together at FAM. And that project was 176 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: called Chocolate City, you know, and it was it was 177 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: a big deal for us because we were a historically 178 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: black college with no film program, and so it kind 179 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: of became our thing. And when we you know, put 180 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: it out there, it hustled it into a video deal. 181 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 5: Ten years later. 182 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: After we shot that movie, relatively, we got a chance 183 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: to shoot Stump the Yard in Atlanta. 184 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: At Morris Brown and a little bit over at more. 185 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: House in Clark, Atlanta, and it was just so crazy, 186 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: like ten years of us kind of being out there 187 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: on the grind to be doing an HBCU movie that 188 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: Sony was paying for. And it was like Chris Brown's 189 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: first movie. It was a movie that really put Columbus 190 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: Short on the map, even though he was a great actor. 191 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: And just to be able to do that and have 192 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 4: so many of our friends behind the scenes and being 193 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: able to celebrate our culture and then you know, it 194 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: was number one two weeks in a row. It was 195 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: just a real, you know, special moment and it was 196 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 4: like our you know, tipping the hats to our schools. 197 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: You know, it was really interesting because I told Will 198 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: this story. At first, I told you the story because 199 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: I was Ejacob, producer, co creator the Steve Harvey Morning Show. 200 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: We was in New York and when it came out, 201 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: you know, I was telling Steve this stopped the yard 202 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: movie man some brothers, and I didn't know you guys attempt. 203 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: I said, we got to keep this movie number one, man. 204 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: And it's really interesting that the love I had for 205 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: you guys and what you were doing that years later 206 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: you come back into our lives and do think like 207 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 2: a man the office book. Act like a lady, think 208 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: like a man, and so that's really amazing. 209 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: Man. 210 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: It's about you when you love something and you see 211 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: something special and you guys were doing something special and 212 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: you're still doing special things today. But again, I always 213 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: tell people, it's not always about the money. It's about 214 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: the opportunity and the relationship. And that's really a testament 215 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: to your career. 216 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: Correct, Rob, Well, listen, Well, first of all, we appreciate 217 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: and I personally appreciate, you know, the shout out. 218 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 5: And the love. 219 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: You know that y'all gave us to help push that movie. 220 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: That means a lot, you know. And it's funny how 221 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 4: those things come back around because we really loved that book. 222 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 4: And you know, I definitely got to give a shout 223 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: out to my wife because she was the first one 224 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: to come talking to me about that book, like, Hey, 225 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 4: everybody's talking about this and we love the book, and 226 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: you got to. 227 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 5: Turn this into a movie and so on and so forth. 228 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: And I'm glad that over time that that that worked out. 229 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 5: But you're absolutely right. I think a lot of times, you. 230 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: Know, when we do things for the love, when we 231 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 4: do things with the right spirit, the money comes, you know. 232 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, and it just feels different. And whether 233 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: you're doing something just for money or doing something because 234 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: you love it, the grind and the work is gonna 235 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 4: be hard regardless, So you might as well grind and 236 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: work hard for something that you love so then that 237 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: when that payoff happens, it's gonna feel a lot different 238 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: than if you're just doing something for a check. 239 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: You know, you know, and you know the interesting thing 240 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: about it, You've always had a HBCU flavor in your production, 241 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: like the quawd that you did be Et with my 242 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: girl Felicia Henderson called with my baby sister, And uh, 243 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: you know when I when I when I look at 244 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: what you're doing in sports with all American you know, again, Rob, 245 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: your gifts man so diverse. How that's a director? You know, 246 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: people just want to do Some people are just a 247 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: sitcom director. Some people just a sci fi big explosions dramas. 248 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: How are you able to manipulate that level of creative 249 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: creativity in your mind? 250 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: You know, because I love I love a lot of different. 251 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: Types of things, you know. 252 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: Uh, And you know I would do the sci fi 253 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: stuff with my dad when I was little and we 254 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: would watch the Star Wars and Star Treks, and then 255 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: you know, I got more into you know, stuff that 256 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: look like my neighborhood as we got older, you know, 257 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: and just and just being able to try to relate 258 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: and make and make the characters relatable, you know what 259 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 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Sign 306 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: up for free at auto ai or download the up 307 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: for free utter dot ai. That's O T T e 308 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: er dot ai. 309 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: Related to My degree is in mathematics and my mind 310 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: is sociologist, so I'm not doing nothing tied to my degree. 311 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: I've done sitcoms as a writer, produced them, created them 312 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: reality shows, but I never directed anything wrong. What does 313 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: a director do and how do how can you become 314 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: a director? 315 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 4: So as a as a sports fan hour related like this, 316 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: a director is like the coach of the team. You 317 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: designed the place and then put your actors in the 318 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: best position to execute and win. 319 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: Or do a good project. That's what a director does. 320 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: So it's kind of like the head coach of the 321 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 4: team and the producer is the general manager, the GM. 322 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 5: You know, they'll hire me or they'll hire the coach. 323 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: So you know, I love that because it gives me 324 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: the opportunity to, you know, interact with people and talk 325 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: to them and try try to figure try to get 326 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: to the truth of the situation so they can so 327 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: we can feel as real to them and as relatable 328 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: as possible to them. So that way the audience feels something, right, 329 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: because if you just watch a movie or watch a 330 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: TV show and. 331 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: You don't feel anything, then we just wasted your time. 332 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 5: But even if you feel mad, sad, laugh, whatever. 333 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: It is, you feel something, then you know it was 334 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: worth the time that you gave us, you know, to 335 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: to watch our show. 336 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: Well, you know there's it's it's amazing just watching your 337 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: talents and the break. So let me slow it down. Man. 338 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: I saw the finale a Power Book two Ghost. I 339 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: would tell you something, Man, I didn't see this coming 340 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: in this series. I didn't see that I will be 341 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: spending my Sunday nights watching Power I just didn't see 342 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: it because when it came out, I heard your storyline 343 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: Drug Dealer Club on owner. You know, I went fifty cents. 344 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: I ain't watching that. I ain't watching that. It's not 345 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: like a bad rap video that I don't want to watch. 346 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: But what makes what made it? Because I want to 347 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 2: go back to whin the beginning, because you were there 348 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: at the beginning and you've been there through the whole process. 349 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: I apologize I say that, And because you did the 350 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: finale of Paul Book two Ghost what makes that? 351 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 4: What makes that series work? So you know, I think 352 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: what makes the Power series work is on a fundamental level, 353 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: it's really relatable. So in the original Power series, you 354 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: had a guy that grew up a certain way ghosts 355 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 4: and he did what he had to do given his options. 356 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 4: So he was a drug dealer, and he had his 357 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 4: best friend that was along with him. And then he 358 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 4: gets to a place to where he wants to make 359 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 4: a change in his life and do something different going 360 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: to clubs. But he's got his you know, his wife 361 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: and his best brand slash business partner that don't want 362 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: him to change, right, and then he meets this other 363 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: woman who to him represents the change that he can be. 364 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: And that's the fundamental of it all is trying to 365 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: figure out how do I transition into who I want 366 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: to be when the people around me are saying all 367 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: you can be is this? And I think there's something 368 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: like that from a humanity standpoint that's really relatable as 369 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 4: we're different parts, you know, positions in our lives where 370 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: maybe you want to do something different than your family's 371 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 4: accustomed to you doing or your friends are accustomed you doing, 372 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 4: and you want to transition. And here's this guy and 373 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 4: it leads to one bad decision after another bad decision, 374 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: and I think we get caught up in that and 375 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: that's the foundation of that is what makes power amazing. 376 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 5: And then it's in the world. 377 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: Of clubs and drug dealers and stuff and toys and murder, 378 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 4: which makes it cool. And so this is like the 379 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: Derek you know this the Ghost series is like part 380 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: two of that. So it was created by Courtney Kemp 381 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: and fifty Cent and just how they you know, interweld 382 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 4: with the stories has been pretty amazing and they're really 383 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: smart people. 384 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 5: So being a part that's been cool. 385 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: And there's been stuff that just you know, as a 386 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: forty something year old guy I can relate. 387 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 5: To on a lot of different mements. 388 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: And so many other people here's the thing about this series. 389 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: You know, the Fast and Furious series works because it's 390 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: about family, you know what I'm saying, And then I 391 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: equate that same thing with the Power series. He just 392 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: wants to be a good dad, but so many elements 393 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: stop him. His lifestyle stops him. His personal won't stop him. 394 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: And that's really what drives me the more. You know, 395 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: he wants to be a good husband, but then again 396 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: he meets the love for his life. He wants to 397 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: be a good father, but then the lifestyle he lives, 398 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: you know, that's not gonna end good. You can't parent 399 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: that life, you know, because you're going to walk your 400 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: son right into that danger zone. But I did not 401 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: see that young man who plays his son become the 402 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: star that he is today. He's incredible, man. 403 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, he really is a Michael Rainy junior. 404 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: Shout out to him. I've just watched his evolution and 405 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: growth as an act round. You know, when I came 406 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 4: on and started working on the original Power Show season 407 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: two and just his role was a lot smaller as 408 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 4: far as the amount of stuff he had to do, 409 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 4: and it's grown, and just working on the Ghost finale, 410 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: just watching his reigne just changed as an actor, you know, 411 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: and how much more confidence that he has has been 412 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: pretty amazing to watch. And it's cool because it's like, 413 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 4: you know, for him as a character, you know, he's 414 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: doing the best that he can. 415 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: But now you know, you're trying to lead. 416 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: You know, your father wants to keep you out of 417 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 4: that business, but that's a part of his life. And 418 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 4: the people that he's you know around, you know, are 419 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: killers and drug dealers, so some of that stuff rubs 420 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: off on him. So it's kind of, you know, interesting 421 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: that you work your whole life to keep your kids 422 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 4: from certain things, but because of how you do things, 423 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: sometimes some that stuff comes back. And I think that that. 424 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: You have not seen the finale. Check out the finale. 425 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: But here's the thing about it. By Michael's character, because 426 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: like I said, it was small, he was weasley, but 427 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: the episode where his sister was murdered, Yeah, I think 428 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: to me was the turning point for his character because 429 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: for me as a person, I became engaged. I hated him, 430 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: you know, I was disappointed in him, but I couldn't 431 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: I hate too strong. I was disappointed because he was young. 432 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: You can't hate a young person because you make mistakes 433 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: when you're young, and that point on his character development, 434 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: he exploded, Man, when we look at who's our next Denzil, 435 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: Who's our next Samuel Man, he's on the radar to 436 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: be that dude. He's on the radar. 437 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: You know. 438 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 4: You know, it's so interesting hearing you say that, because 439 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: I totally agree. I think that everything is fun in 440 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: games until somebody gets seriously hurt, killed, or gets locked 441 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 4: up for a long time for something that we did. 442 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 5: Now it's real. 443 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 4: So I think that all the misfit like stuff that 444 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: he was doing, the rebellious type stuff that he was 445 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: doing as a as a kid rebelling against his parents, 446 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 4: changed when his sister died. Especially knowing that that bullet 447 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 4: should have been for him, made him a different person, 448 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 4: because now you've crossed an invisible line and you can 449 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 4: never come back. The only next logical step for him 450 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: was to physically go and you know, you know, get retribution, 451 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: kill the guy that that shot his sister. And once 452 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: that line was crossed, it was he can't go back. 453 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: You know, he opened Pandora's box, and so I think 454 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: that there's like everything else as a result of that 455 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: has been him growing into that new person so. 456 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 5: Character. 457 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: But the opening the palette of Power ghost character looking good, innocent, 458 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: looking in a sense that he looked like he could 459 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: be running a fortune five hundred company and he killed 460 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: somebody in that pilot set the tone for the evolution 461 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: of his son in the in the series finale, and 462 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: you know, he said some things in some phrases there 463 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: that really signifies that I can't wait to I can't 464 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: wait till the next episode. 465 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: You know. 466 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 2: That's a great story when you when you when you're 467 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: sitting up thinking, hey man, it's over with me. I 468 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: didn't see another episode. And that's what you did last 469 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: night in the finale. Man, the finale that you that 470 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: aired on Sunday night was amazing. 471 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 5: Man. 472 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: Congratulations, Man, I appreciate that. 473 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 5: I'm really glad that you uh that you dug it 474 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: And yeah, you're right. I agree. 475 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: Listen, the pilot to Power, I thought was was really 476 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: amazing to like bring you into that world and it's crazy. Yeah, ghosts, 477 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: we met ghosts there and that's where he left us. 478 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 5: Yes, you know, in that same club. 479 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Now, let's talk about some other things outside 480 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: of Power, you know, the Hardy, your rainforest, Entertainment just 481 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: with Lionsgate TV for First Look production year. What exactly 482 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: is that? 483 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: So, what it is is that we have a production 484 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: deal with Lionsgate in the episode specifically, so in the 485 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: episode is the company. It's Courtney Kemp's company, and she's 486 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: the creator of Power, So that means that we're partnering 487 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: with her to develop content. And so first Look means 488 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 4: that my company Rainforest Entertainment, and I have a partner 489 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: in my company from fam you, Mitzi Miller, who used 490 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 4: to be editor in chief over at Evan h And 491 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: so we'll have projects that we develop and then once 492 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: we take that to end episode Lionsgate, if they want 493 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: to partner with us on it, then we'll be business 494 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: partners and we'll package it and try to sell the project. 495 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: If not, then we're free and clear to take it 496 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 4: anywhere that we want and get it set up. So, 497 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 4: you know, it's a big deal for us as a company, 498 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: and so we're real excited about twenty twenty one. 499 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: You know, the really interesting thing about my show money 500 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: Making Conversation is that and you have the same personality Rob, 501 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: you know, you just help people, be helping them. But 502 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: in a way we've learned that that's been mentorship. That 503 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: means that not afraid of competition. You know, I always 504 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: tell people, if I give you an idea and you 505 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 2: make a million dollars, I'm happy because that was an 506 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: idea that obviously had no value to me. I couldn't 507 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 2: do anything with it. And so you've established that with 508 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: your foundation. You and your wife have established the foundation 509 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: to train mental and give people careers in this. And 510 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: then there's a Lucra to film and TV business in Georgia. 511 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: Tell us about that foundation. 512 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 4: So we have a company called our foundation, called the 513 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 4: Robin Sean Hardy Amazing Stories Foundation. So my wife and 514 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 4: I created the foundation and the whole purpose of it 515 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 4: is to train people from our communities in the Atlanta 516 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 4: metro area how to get you know, production jobs on 517 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: sets for TV and moves. 518 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 5: But this is these are we call below the line position. 519 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: So it's not stuff like directors, writers, producers, but it's 520 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: everything from transportation to camera. 521 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 5: To special effects, hair makeup. 522 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: So a young lady, Nina Packer, another fam Youwine, runs 523 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: the foundation, and we partner with the city of East Point, 524 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: who's mayor. Dina Ingram is another fam youwin. You know, 525 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: you see like the trend here, and we did two 526 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: We've done two seasons of it, so we've basically gone out, 527 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: found people, trained them, put them on sets, and a 528 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 4: bunch of those people have gotten full time jobs working 529 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: on TV and movie sets. So we have people right 530 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: now on shows like Black Lightning and Dynasty, you know, 531 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 4: and shows like that. So it's a really big deal because, 532 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: especially living in Atlanta, a lot of producers would come 533 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 4: here and you go on the sets and they wouldn't 534 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: have a whole lot of diverse city behind the scenes. 535 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: It wouldn't be a whole lot of people that look 536 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: like us. And they kept saying, well, we can't find 537 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 4: the people. There's no trained people. So my thought was, Okay, well, 538 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: then we'll create a pipeline. We'll create an avenue to 539 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 4: where my cousin, your cousin that lives in our city 540 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: can get some training and they can drive a truck, 541 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: they can cook some food, they can carry some cable, 542 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 4: they can do whatever. 543 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 5: And then with that they. 544 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: Can get a career with a pension, with some health insurance, 545 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: and then they can show other people in our communities 546 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: that this industry, this Monti billion dollar industry, is for 547 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: us too. 548 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: Wow. Well, you know, first of all, you know the 549 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: only thing wrong with this interview man, because I'm a 550 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: member of Mega Sci Fi and you keep heating the 551 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: word alpha. You know what I'm saying. You know, I 552 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: got respect for the alpha, but you can't be saying 553 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: that two the task on my shoe. 554 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 5: Hey, well look I'm gonna tell you. Look my dad, My. 555 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 4: Dad wasn't Omega. 556 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 557 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: And I I said, I said, listen, things. 558 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 5: Get better with time. 559 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 4: So you know, you know, you train me up, gave 560 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 4: me all year gifts so that way I can take 561 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 4: this thing the greater heights. 562 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 5: And that's what I did. 563 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So hey, he love it. Hey, 564 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: here we are. I did a little I did a 565 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: little background tepe. But man, first of all, first time 566 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: we met, man, we was going to connect the pandemic, 567 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: BLUs everything. But this year, man, you know what I 568 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: talked about before this call. All right, brother, you're amazing, 569 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: and we're going to do business in twenty twenty one 570 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 2: and uh and carry some of these visions and these 571 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: these skill setss you have to the next level. And 572 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: I bought a building in Atlanta. So I want to 573 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: invite you by your wife by so we sit down 574 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: and talk. Because I got some local productions I'm going 575 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: to be doing that. I like to be able to 576 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: bring some of your some of the individuals over here 577 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: and work them and maticulate them into our programs that 578 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: we're trying to do. Because again, if you don't have 579 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: a resume in the business, you don't have an opportunity. 580 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: And that's all you about. That's all I'm about. Thanks 581 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: for coming on Money Making Conversations. 582 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 5: I appreciate you having me man as always. 583 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: Man is good to see you keep representing and doing 584 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 4: your things in a big way. 585 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: Good. 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