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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Staley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's do alive on a Tuesday and issue of the

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Speaker 1: program merely Bow and the great Z. How you doing, pal?

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Speaker 1: Couldn't be better because I'm with you. Bo. What a treat?

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Speaker 1: What a treat? Yeah, whatever consternation there may be in

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Speaker 1: the preamble, once you get into the main course, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a delight. What a delight it is for two hours,

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Speaker 1: A big bowl of beef soup. What a treat. I

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Speaker 1: haven't made that yet. Oh I have that for I

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Speaker 1: want to run that back this year. That was Sunday Night,

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Speaker 1: season finale. Sunday Night came home, ms K, don't you

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Speaker 1: get to blow kisses? Tour? Very sad, but she she

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Speaker 1: and Artie were both like, beef soup, beef soup, run it,

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Speaker 1: she went, She did it. I gotta tell you, And

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Speaker 1: I think it's every time I have it. But the

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Speaker 1: fact that I still think it, even though she made

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Speaker 1: It's it's undefeated. It's so good. It is very good.

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Speaker 1: I've never had anything like it, which is odd considering,

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Speaker 1: you know, our proximity to beef that we hadn't figured

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Speaker 1: out a way does it do it? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you're not from the Dalmatian coast of Croatia. Peasant,

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Speaker 1: that's peasant. It's a good, delicious peasant. Yeah, that's got

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Speaker 1: I didn't you didn't, but yeah, yes, not I had.

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Speaker 1: My buddy Guaranty has become He's been here for two

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Speaker 1: and a half weeks and we have the first he's

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Speaker 1: clearly spoiled um this morning. Like he and I have

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Speaker 1: all sniffing around like, dude, it's you. You're smelling you, dummy,

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Speaker 1: Like it's the same thing. Um. And this morning it

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Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be much longer. It's coming. Are

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Speaker 1: you gonna get one of those? Because I'd love to

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Speaker 1: see it. It's become all the ridge, certainly in my

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Speaker 1: of course, who spoils Asa with two walks every day,

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Speaker 1: So I enjoyed those. I just tell them careful, like

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Speaker 1: Chicago one of the best guys, the best, the best.

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Speaker 1: you didn't get it done. And honestly, from a Buckeye perspective,

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Speaker 1: it makes you so angry. They lost to Michigan. It's

426
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Speaker 1: inexplicable they lost to Michigan. If they played the way

427
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: they played against Georgia, they beat Michigan. They didn't um

428
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 1: the fact that Ohio State is a botched fifty yard

429
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 1: field goal from beating Georgia in Atlanta ten days ago,

430
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Speaker 1: without Jackson Smith and Jigba, without Kate Stover, without Marvin

431
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Speaker 1: Harrison for a quarter, uh without Trevion Henderson or Mine Williams,

432
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Speaker 1: their number one and number two tailbacks, um with Harrison

433
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: going out with the concussion in the fourth with the

434
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: most incredible time out call maybe in the history of

435
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: college football by Kirby Smart that saved him a first

436
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: down on a fourth down conversion. The fact that they

437
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Speaker 1: blew all of that and then what we got instead

438
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: was what we got last night, which is direct. I

439
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: wonder if the layoffs hurt the favorites in the first

440
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: in the first round because of Michigan. I think if

441
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: Michigan placed TCU a hundred times, they're gonna win a

442
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: lot of those. Sometimes it's just the fight, you know,

443
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: it's the it's the it's more it's sometimes it's just

444
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: the matchup. So styles make the fights. There you go,

445
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: that's the phrase I was looking for. TCU plays a

446
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: type of when when they were at their best, a

447
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: kind of frenetic, spread it out thing that you can

448
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: get away with against teams like Michigan to a lesser

449
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: degree Ohio State, but not Georgia. Georgia is so physically

450
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: dominant you cannot do that that way against them. So

451
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: the only way to beat Georgia is with a pro quarterback,

452
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: with pro receivers and throwing the ball down the field.

453
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Speaker 1: There's no other way in Ohio State was the only one.

454
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Speaker 1: Michigan would have lost sixty seven, but they would have

455
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: lost forty something to twenty or forty something to seventeen.

456
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: They would gotten beaten up. But you have got to

457
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: be able to throw the ball down the field. You

458
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: were still surprised though, by the outcome. Yeah, I thought

459
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: I thought Texas, I thought you would. I thought it

460
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: would be a late cover back door. You know, Georgie

461
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: nonset touchdown. You know it's thirty eight, twenty four something

462
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: like that finish. I didn't see this coming. I mean,

463
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: this is weren't the total points in the game like

464
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: sixty seven or eight, and like Georgia almost covered the

465
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: total points in the game. Give me I think they did.

466
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Speaker 1: I think it was like sixty two or three. And

467
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: by themselves it was stunning. I was with some friends

468
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: last night. By one buddy's sec guy. His name is

469
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: Guy actually, and they pulled like the Georgia QB and

470
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: he was like, why are you pulling him? And I'm

471
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: like really, He's like, well, what's the last time he's

472
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: ever going to be on the field? Seven? But guy,

473
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: they're not coming back. No, no, we go about when

474
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: they put up the four's like fourth quarter. It's funny.

475
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: I consumption of this game involved me being like, oh,

476
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: it's a national championship game at about maybe not nine,

477
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, that's on. We're gonna

478
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: play some sorry, which gets heated in as a girl

479
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: household sorry, Yeah, ganging up on accusations of favoritism and

480
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Because we played with a

481
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: fire and ice. Have you played it with that? Uh,

482
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: had a whole new dimension and real choice to stick

483
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: it to somebody. So I was like, I'm gonna throw

484
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: this game on. I threw it on, and I'm pretty sure,

485
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: like again, I remember it's or nine, but whenever I

486
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: turned it on it was and I'm like in the

487
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: second quarter, like, oh okay, this game is over. So

488
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: I turned it off at that point, and the only

489
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: consumption I had of the game we're for through various

490
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: clips of Pat McAfee doing his sideline cast, saying outrageous things,

491
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: being outrageous what else, profanity on the air, talking about

492
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: the dog, which I don't know if you can do that,

493
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but it finds McAfee like who can

494
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: feel like he's unimpeachable. But just there was Yeah the game,

495
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean they're eating wings in the fourth quarter. Yeah, yeah,

496
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: it was. It was bad, man, it was real bad.

497
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: It was. Um. So you went to school in Atlanta.

498
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: I covered South Georgia high school football twenty years ago.

499
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: The University of Georgia was a a redheaded step child

500
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: of the South Southeastern Conference. They held on to nine

501
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: eighty like grim death, like they had one. They were

502
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: a program of very little consequence through the eighties and

503
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: nineties and in early two thousands. Um, they were constantly

504
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: the laughing stock behind Florida. Florida dominated them. They beat

505
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: them every year in the cocktail party Tennessee. He used

506
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: to handle them all the time. In the nineties they

507
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: had no chance against They weren't even the League of Alabama. Right,

508
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: But here's what they had. They have elite high school

509
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: football and the population shift to the South coinciding with

510
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: those programs. I'm mentioning Florida, Florida State um Tennessee, those

511
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: programs all taking a step back and receding. Georgia stepped

512
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: in smart learned at the foot of Nick Saban how

513
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: to go about his business. He is a Georgia alum.

514
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: He knows the state front and back. He's from the state.

515
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: He's in with all the high school coaches. The one

516
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: thing about Georgia, and I'm sure you felt this way

517
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: when you were in Atlanta, the state of Georgia is

518
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: a Georgia dog state. Oh my god, more than hot

519
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: more than Falcons, hawks, braves, it is Georgia football. So

520
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: I was there at like peak braves and the people

521
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: were into the braves. But like the fact that Georgia

522
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: Tech is is in Atlanta, nothing nothing, It's all Georgia

523
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: and by and that was when you were there. They

524
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: weren't even know because it was Stafford was a J. Green,

525
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: that's all mid were they there early two thousands? Sa J.

526
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: Green had to be drafted. He was mid early to

527
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: mid two thousands. That was Rick. Rick got him. Rick

528
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: kind of did for them what John Cooper did for

529
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Did you put him on a national map

530
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: and then the perfect guy came in to solve it.

531
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Speaker 1: Did you happen to catch any of the the pre

532
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: game I did when I was coaching hoops, so I

533
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: didn't have you seen the clip of Pollock and Saban

534
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: So that was post game, wasn't it was after the game? Oh? Yeah,

535
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: I did when he was like I thought I saw

536
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: while the game was still going on where he says

537
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: to him basically like Georgia runs the SEC and runs

538
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: college and runs college post game when he said and

539
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: Pollock was a great player at Georgia injury and they

540
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: never was there was Stafford played in the league because

541
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: I picked by the Bengals. I heard his neck. Yeah,

542
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: and there's been a commentator and done a great job

543
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: for himself for a little like that. But that was

544
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: that was That was pretty good. Saving just kind of

545
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: set there, like I think I have six national titles

546
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: in the last ten years, so twelve years. I think

547
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: I've done okay, But it is I mean, this is

548
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: here's the other thing about this sport, and I know

549
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: we're up against it. There are I'm gonna account the

550
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: teams here, here are the teams in this league. In

551
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: that league one out who believe that they can be Georgia.

552
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: So Alabama is Georgia. Georgia is Georgia. Florida has been Georgia.

553
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: Ls U has been Georgia. Auburn has been they won

554
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: a national championship. Of course, they've won one s Heisman winners.

555
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: This is not l s U. Texas, A and M

556
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: believes with the right coach, they have all the talent

557
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: in the world, all the money in the world. Why

558
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: can't we be Georgia. They should be. They're gonna add

559
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma. Nine programs in that league have either

560
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: the necessity than what is necessary in financial with boosters,

561
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: proximity to talent and give a damn level. Alright, nine

562
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: of them. The rest of the country USC, Ohio State, Michigan,

563
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: Penn State, Ish, Clemson, Baby, they had a it's hard

564
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: for them to be sustainable though, it's really difficult. They

565
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: don't have the money like these other places. You okay,

566
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: I think we just go to to twenty and then

567
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: like a giant it will be so given all of

568
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: what you just said, when does it make sense? And

569
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: it's going to and I know people love the tradition

570
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: of the Big Ten and the idiot. But it's going

571
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: to make sense at some point for Ohio State in

572
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: Michigan and USC to be in that league. Here's what's

573
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: gonna happen. There will be two leagues that will be

574
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: run out of the Big Ten and the SEC. They

575
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: will completely control the sport. We're not that far from

576
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: it anyway. This league is never gonna be cut this league, no,

577
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be to the problem with the

578
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: problem with the Big Ten is there there aren't enough

579
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: schools that believe that. Here's I went through all the

580
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: SEC schools. Arkansas thinks they can be Georgia. Of course,

581
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: Kentucky thinks it can be Georgia. Like every school in

582
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: that league thinks that the right Higher Tennessee, Mississippi State,

583
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: all miss Tennessee like, they all think they can be Georgia.

584
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: They all think they're one. There's only three schools in

585
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: the Big Ten and four when USC comes that believe

586
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: that they can be Ohio State. For that to work,

587
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: you need maybe five. With the brass you need to

588
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: add you need to add Notre Dame, and you got

589
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: to get Notre Dame in this conference. Well, you need

590
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: to you need to get three out of the out

591
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: of the South. You need to get Florida State, Miami

592
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: and Clemson to come in, come in, and and then

593
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: you go USC and Notre Dame and you probably need

594
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: another couple out there. But it's no, it's it's unbelievable.

595
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: That was a clinic. It was a clinic. Yes, I

596
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: talked about him this morning. He is it. It took

597
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: a while. I think it took the Ohio State game

598
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: for people starting to understand his genius. And we he

599
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: was great when he was here. He was awesome. Yes,

600
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: we loved he would come and just kind of like

601
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: talk to us sometimes and you're like this guy and

602
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: you have felt that. Yes, he was being stifled in

603
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: some regards and that's why he didn't stay here very long.

604
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's a smart, smart guy and just he

605
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: had it. I mean you could feel it from him

606
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: when he was here. It's awesome. He makes two million

607
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: bucks a year Colin Ball plays at the University of Georgia.

608
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That is pretty good. I hope that

609
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: he you know, I'm sure that the you know, the

610
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: feeling is when you want to go be a head

611
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: coach somewhere and his brothers. A head coach at Army

612
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: does a great job, and I'm sure that there's some

613
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: of that that's in him. But he could just be

614
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: the coordinator at Alabama and make two million, by the way,

615
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: in two years of MAIG four, because it's just getting

616
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: more and more money, just just be They keeps recruiting

617
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: the players just I mean the Stetson Bennet kids. Probably

618
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: not a pro quarterback. There's gonna they have a five

619
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: star guy waiting in the wings. Yeah, he's got a

620
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: five star quarterback waiting. Yes, stets In Bennet's like people Gibbey,

621
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: He's an old man's per Ian Rappaport. The Ravens have

622
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: agreed in principle with all Pro linebacker ro Quan Smith

623
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: and the highest paid to his position, five years, one

624
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: million dollars forty five million, fully guaranteed sixty million in

625
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 1: total guarantees, the first off ball linebacker to ever get

626
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: to twenty million per year. And ro Quan Smith, as

627
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 1: we know represented himself, that's an odd time to do that, right,

628
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: Are those done like now? Like in the middle of

629
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: a right between the end of the season. To me,

630
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: it must be that it feels like. It feels like

631
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: that is to make sure that they don't need to

632
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: franchise tag him. Yeah, and that's done, and now we

633
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: can use more leverage with the salary cap matters. Somebody

634
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: asked me that this morning, two million caps. Did you

635
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: listen to the press conference yesterday? Did you put that

636
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: cut in there? We got it, We got it in

637
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Speaker 1: there in there. Well, you're gonna you're gonna restructure multiple contracts,

638
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: and I would imagine Deshaun's one of them, and then

639
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna have forty million. Always it's always manageable. You'll

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00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: the highlights from yesterday's con Spansky and Andrew Berry. Okay,

653
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: anytime this time of year, you know, we are sitting

654
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: here as opposed to being you know, being prepared for

655
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: an upcoming game. UM, is obviously a disappointing place to be. Um.

656
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: We didn't get done this year. UM. You know, we

657
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: were just too inconsistent, you know, throughout the season. UM.

658
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: And there are plenty of areas to work on improve

659
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: as we get into the upcoming months. UM. You know,

660
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna spend the next couple of weeks, you know,

661
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: really assessing everything, um, your roster, football operations wise, from

662
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: A to Z. UM. And then you know, really with

663
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: the goal of getting us to obviously when we're playing

664
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: meaningful football at this point in the year. UM. That

665
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: being said, Uh, a lot of good people in place, players, coaches, um, staff, UM,

666
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: and we're looking forward and energized by the challenge of

667
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, making the necessary changes and modifications. UM. You know,

668
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: so that we're we're playing good football at this point

669
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: in the year. You know, being here in reflection mode

670
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: and the finality of the season being over is obviously disappointing.

671
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: But I'm in no way discouraged for the future of

672
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: this football team. I'm excited about the core of guys

673
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: that are returning. UH. And then we're just determined to

674
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: put in the work. We're determined to put in the

675
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: work this offseason, UH, to shape this team and make

676
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: sure that we really are just playing good football come

677
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: next September. And there's a bunch of things that that

678
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: we need to look at. We're gonna take our time,

679
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, as we pulled us apart and

680
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: look at every area that we can improve. UM. I

681
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: know you guys saw the news. UH. I let Joe

682
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: Woods go last night. UH. You know, not an easy decision.

683
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: I have a ton of respect for Joe the person,

684
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: Joe the coach. He's a a great, great man. He

685
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: works extremely hard, he treats people the right way. I

686
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: just felt like it was in the best interest of

687
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: our football team to go in that direction. But he

688
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: will land on his feet because he's a good football coach.

689
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: But with that, I'll take any questions you playing on

690
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: any other coaching changes besides Joe. You know, today was

691
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: really about the players, Jeff, So I met with our

692
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: players all day. I'll meet with our coaches this week

693
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: and we'll have conversations with everybody. You yourself need were

694
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: involved with the defense, it's sort of more involved overall

695
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: when you look at the Yeah, I think you look

696
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: at everything into an offseason. Uh, you know, my involvement

697
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: with the offense, involvement with the defense, with special teams.

698
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: You know, I try to be uh certainly available to

699
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: everybody and and help as much as I can on

700
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: on all three sides of the ball. I think it's

701
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: important that when you find the right people, uh, and

702
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: we have a lot of the right people in this building,

703
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: you empower them, you encourage them, and then it's my

704
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: job to set people up for success. So uh, to

705
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: your point of time, I think it's just important that

706
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: I set our coaches up for success. And you looked

707
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: at yourself little to play call your up on time.

708
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: And there's also so much about it, for example, play

709
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: calling or just even a different way of doing them. Yeah,

710
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: for sure, perhaps open to anything that will help our

711
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: football team. I really am, and I think that's what

712
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: this offseason and this month and meetings or are about.

713
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: It's about pulling everything apart, looking at everything its statistically, Uh,

714
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: this the past defense the secondary was like top five

715
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: really going back to about week six or seven in

716
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: the league. The run defense conversely was maybe the worst

717
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: in the league and it never really improved much over

718
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: the course of the season. Like, how much of that

719
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: was the scheme and how much is that you guys

720
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: to even rethink personnel this off season to shot that up? Yeah,

721
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I think Jake, when when the performance occurs like that,

722
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: it's it's never just it's never just one thing. I

723
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: think there are considerations for both. UM. Yeah, I'd like

724
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: to say it was like it's a silver bullet, but

725
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: it's it's realistically probably a combination of factors between UM,

726
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, really how you deploy the players, the players

727
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: that you have, and then also you just like a

728
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: little bit of luck in terms of health as well.

729
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: Going back to Jake's question about leadership and your answer

730
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: about not having UM necessarily the rank mix in all areas,

731
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: I think there's some of your top players and a

732
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: lot of them are lead by example type of guys,

733
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: and they tell said, and some interviews we have when

734
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: we asked him about leadership, is there something having more

735
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: vocal leaders Do you think that's something you need to address?

736
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: I think the bigger focuses effectiveness of leadership as opposed

737
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: to necessarily style of leadership. So ultimately, are we getting

738
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: the results and the outcomes that are desired? I think

739
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: Also the other thing is, like, you know, people are

740
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: leaders in different ways, as you mentioned, um so, again

741
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: i'd probably more focus on effectiveness as opposed to, Hey,

742
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: you need your X amount that are in this way

743
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: X amount or that that way? Um So, can they

744
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: hope to retain some of your current defensive assistance? And

745
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: will you interview any of them for the DC generals? Yes?

746
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: The first part again, I just haven't had the chance

747
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: to talk to the entire stuff. Um but I won't

748
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: be interviewing them for that position. Yes or no, you

749
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: will or will will both? Which part? Which question? Will

750
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: you the interviewing president system or day saying? Do you

751
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: need do you think you need organizationally to reevaluate either

752
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: the importance and or style of your defensive tackles just

753
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: given run defensives? Yeah, I think Scott, you know quite honestly,

754
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: like we will always UM try and match the you know,

755
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: the personnel to the schematic vision for you know, for

756
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: the coach. So like our coaches do a really good

757
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: job of telling us, you know, what they need in

758
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: a what they need in a particular scheme or a

759
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: particular defense. UM you know certainly as certainly that position

760
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: in particular. UM, you know, as as Kevin selects a

761
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: defensive corner, will will link up with that individual and

762
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: make sure that we're searching for individuals that have um

763
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: the traits and skills necessary to perform their job within

764
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: that within that Sorry, will you retain like pre her

765
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, with all the coaches, I haven't

766
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: had a chance to sit down with every coach, so um,

767
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: those are all things that we're working through off of

768
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: that is Sean, you know that was the roster was

769
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: a really really good ship for the team. I know

770
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a perfect proster, but when

771
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: you look at going into this offseason, the certainly the

772
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: assets you have available a little different. You don't have

773
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: first round pick, obviously, UM has has your view of

774
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe what you need to add to this roster changed

775
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: dramatically and If so, do you maybe see the need

776
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: to maybe try and get back into the first round

777
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: or improve your your draft position so you can fill

778
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: some of those teams. I'll answer it this way, Daryl.

779
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: I we will have, um, you know, more than enough

780
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: in terms of like resources, picks, dollars, cap space, um

781
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: to to fortify the roster in the areas that we

782
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: that we need to. You guys, how would you evaluate

783
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: the special teams? From coaching, from kicking, hunting, how would

784
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: you have evaluated as a whole? Yeah, I think, you know,

785
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: played some good games, certainly late especially, there were some

786
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: challenges early. I think with with Cade, you know, you

787
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: have a rookie at that position, you knew he was

788
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: gonna have ups and downs, but very confident about him

789
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: moving forward. I thought Corey did really well, worked in

790
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: new returners throughout the season, so I thought there were

791
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: some really good moments and then areas that we really

792
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: want to get better. You know, it's a tricky thing,

793
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: these end of season press conferences because especially when you're

794
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: trying to you know, get in the head of of

795
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: somebody in terms of what's going to happen. It's almost

796
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: like if you are in one of these and you're

797
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: asking about the what is going to come in terms

798
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: of plans for the off season, so forth and so on.

799
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: You you're not they're not gonna give anything there that

800
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: no one's gonna tip their hand on that. So what

801
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: you can do and I think this is the part,

802
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: uh that that makes some of these a little bit tough,

803
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: is you can look back on what happened, why it happened,

804
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: how do you prevent it from happening again, what did

805
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: you learn from that? Those are the things that are

806
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: most interesting to me on these postseason press conferences anything.

807
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: We just had the Bears. GM asked a question about

808
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, what would it take to move off of one?

809
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: And he used an opportunity we have to be blown

810
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: away with somebody at one but like he's not giving

811
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: you anything real there, sing out loud. There are a

812
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: couple of things in there and themes. You're right about that, um.

813
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: I thought they were very good and at least articulating

814
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: the processes that they utilize and understanding that they're not

815
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: all working, and that's because of the lack of success

816
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: we've had, certainly the last two seasons and trying to

817
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: figure that out. But it's amazing to me how they

818
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: still are beating this analytics drum as if like the

819
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: Browns are run by a computer that spits things out.

820
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: I don't feel like they understand what analytics is. I

821
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: don't The questions would certainly indicate that they have no

822
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: actual understanding of what it is. And the fact that analytics,

823
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that, which is the

824
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: use of data to try to help make informed decisions

825
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: as a part of an overall process, is used every

826
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: business in the world the world in the world. It's

827
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: just information, man, it's information, cutting it, looking at it,

828
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: cultivating it, slicing in different ways to try to give

829
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: yourself the best answer, the best chance for success in

830
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: any single business. If you are as somebody who flies

831
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: airlines a bunch, and you noticed that over time you

832
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: went from flying on your route mostly empty seven thirty

833
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: seven eight hundred two, now all of a sudden, a

834
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: full regional jet every time you make that same route.

835
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: That's because analytics identified that there was an excess capacity

836
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: on that route, and they were able to match a

837
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: plane that better fit the capacity to then let us

838
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: be more efficient and more profitable for the company. That's analytics,

839
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: and so the Browns use that, as do every team,

840
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: and it was reference that the Browns were the number

841
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: one most annecally advancing, which means from teams around the

842
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: league say they use it the best. That's what it's

843
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: actually saying. Everybody uses them. Every team in the NFL

844
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: has analytics, but that the Browns use it the most

845
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: effect stively. Now that hasn't translated to the wins and losses,

846
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: but that doesn't necessarily mean that that's a bad thing.

847
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: That two and three every single year, and oftentimes one

848
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: of them is actually number one. Ahead of the Browns

849
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: are the Eagles and the Ravens. And we know that

850
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: the Ravens are an excellent team. And it's funny because

851
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: people think the Ravens, ah, that's like smash mouth old

852
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: school football team. They are one of the most and

853
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: have been analytically advanced teams forever. The New England Patriots

854
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 1: under Bill Belichick in their heyday where it had maybe

855
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: the first analytics department in the NFL. But that's Bill,

856
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: that's Belichick. That's like old school football. He's the best.

857
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. The Eagles always there, which is why

858
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: they drafted Jalen Hurts when they still had a quarterback

859
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: in the second round. The understand the position that important,

860
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: the importance of that position, they're the one see in

861
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: the NFC. The brown shortcomings came down to a few

862
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: plays every single game. Anthony Walker said it best, It

863
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: really doesn't matter, you know it. Of course, coaching matters,

864
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: and you want to get people in here with certain traits,

865
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: but if we don't execute, they're not going to be

866
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: here long. And the Browns at times too often were

867
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: inconsistent in their execution. But it's just I don't know,

868
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: you have a half hour, thirty four minutes in this

869
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: case with the head coach in the GM, and it

870
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: felt like that was kind of one of the dominant themes,

871
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: but it was asked in ways that showed that there

872
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: was a complete lack of understanding of what you were

873
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: even asking about. So it's a waste of everybody's time. Yeah,

874
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: there were some excellent questions in there, and there always are.

875
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: But the Browns this year are not in the playoffs,

876
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: same with last year, because they frankly didn't produce. Now

877
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: could you say, And there were questions about it that

878
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: perhaps the Browns in their desire to be so fast

879
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: and nimble to deal with Lamar Jackson and to deal with,

880
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: for example, the passing offensive the Bengals. That we were

881
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: under manned in terms of size in the interior of

882
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: our defensive line. That's absolutely true, and so that's something

883
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: I would imagine will be addressed going this off season.

884
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: I remember these same analytics guys were the ones that

885
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: going into the season brought in Andrew Billings to do

886
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: just that, and then covid happened, he opted out that year.

887
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: So it's not that they don't they understand all of

888
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: these needs. You can't plug every single hole, and sometimes

889
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: you have to make decisions of where we are not

890
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: going to be as you know, loaded as we are

891
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: in other places. And unfortunately one of those certainly came

892
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: to roost on us in terms of our run defense

893
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: and just a lack of size in the middle. I'm

894
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: sure that will be addressed this offseason. Um. But it's

895
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: just when you fail to live up to the expectations,

896
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: and for a roster that was is talented, even with

897
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson out eleven games, there are going to be

898
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: a lot of questions and and fairly so, and so

899
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: things do have to get better, because it's a lot

900
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: of little things that add up to big things, not

901
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: only in the games. I think, you know, you look

902
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: at are we in training camp getting ourselves physically ready

903
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: for a season? Yeah, you know we were. If you

904
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: look at where we fell behind. Really it was initial

905
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: run defense, right, not a lot of tackling in the preseason,

906
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: and you had, you know, a Jets game where you

907
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: blew it there and then really or the season got

908
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: away from you. Is the three game stretch of Atlanta,

909
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: the Chargers and New England, and you were physically dominated,

910
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: and certainly the first two of those games in the

911
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: New England just beat you, playing and simple in every facet.

912
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of things that are

913
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to be looked at, and I think you've

914
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: got that sense. I was down there with them. They

915
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: are excellent at explaining things. They are not going to

916
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: give you all the details you want. You can ask

917
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: them some specific questions about players, and they're they're gonna

918
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: have their exit interviews with the players and tell them

919
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: directly what they think. But you're not going to get

920
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: that in the media. So you have to understand what

921
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: you can get out of them. But I did think

922
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: there were some very good insights that were gleaned in

923
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: this one, and I think it was clear to me

924
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: that they are very aware that things must get better.

925
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: My my feeling on it, and kind of summing up

926
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: some of the roster stuff you mentioned some of the

927
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: shortcomings is that if you go back to when this

928
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: roster was constructed through free agency through draft, um, there

929
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: wasn't anybody in this building there than anybody in the

930
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: NFL that thought that thought Deshaun Watson would be out

931
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: eleven games. The high end that everybody in the league

932
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: thought was six. Most people thought four. So when that

933
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: thing came back eleven, that changed a lot of things,

934
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: and it changed a roster construction if you're looking for

935
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, you built a roster that

936
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: was based on the fact that your offense is gonna

937
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: be pretty dynamic with the Shawn Watson playing the majority

938
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: of the games, to one where it was a little

939
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: bit of a different approach. So, now of a sudden,

940
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: do we need as many defensive tackles with people are

941
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: gonna sling it all over on us all the time? Well, no,

942
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: probably not, because we think they're probably gonna have to chase.

943
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna be in a lot of games where we scored,

944
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: they scored the thirties. So that's how the roster was constructed.

945
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: So in the middle of camp you get at eleven

946
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: games to spension watchinga what the hell this is not?

947
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: This is not in the brochure. We didn't think we're

948
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna get this. Remember when six came down like well

949
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: that scene that was on the high end of what

950
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: what a lot of people thought, not just here but

951
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: around the league. So that's a big part of it.

952
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: If you're looking for one thing that they missed on,

953
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: and I think fairly you can say they missed it's

954
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: speed receiver. It's something we talked about in camp. No

955
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: never forget you and me and Joe Thomas going not

956
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: loving this defensive tackle situation and I don't love what's

957
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: going on at receiver. And we were told Schwartz, Schwartz, Schwartz,

958
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: given a minute, if not, and if not, it's good

959
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: something something, and never something ever happened. So there just

960
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: wasn't the speed receiver. If you if you look at

961
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: the roster, and I'm you, you talked very eloquently about

962
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: all of the stuff in game and the anti clutch

963
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about thousand times. Those two issues were issues

964
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: August one, yep, and still and still and so when

965
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: you think about check marks for the they know that

966
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: as as much as anybody does. So that's those are

967
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: jobs that have to get sorted out here this offseason.

968
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: Jake Trotter with some perspective coming up next to listen

969
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns Daily brought you by bally Bet, coming

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973
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974
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977
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Speaker 1: NFL Nation, Brown's Report, a great friend of the program,

979
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: Jake Trotter. Jake. Before we get into we just listened

980
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: to Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefan's yesterday and We'll get

981
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that in a second, but I just

982
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: want to start. I was down there observing the whole thing.

983
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: What is the rules? What are are the rules? What

984
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: is the etiquette for asking a question? Because I was

985
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: flummoxed yesterday at the shouting down people just blowing through

986
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: red lights and stop signs to get their questions, and

987
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: even though it's about their eighth when other people are

988
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: trying to ask good questions and they get no opportunity.

989
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: So take me inside that room. What is it like?

990
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: What's it supposed to be? Like? Are there discussions afterwards?

991
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: Like there are rules? There are rules, dude, Like Yester,

992
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: I thought that was nut. No, never you are a

993
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: multiple time victim. There are victims really at all levels.

994
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if the front row or the front

995
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: right had any victims, but other than that many victims yesterday. Yeah,

996
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: those are tricky, especially a press conference like that because

997
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: how many people were in the room. Like I mean,

998
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of people. And I

999
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: always try to be respectful on two fronts. Number one,

1000
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: like I don't typically ask questions, just to ask questions

1001
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: like if where you know, if if Nick Chubb is

1002
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: talking or Miles Garrett's talking, you know at the podium.

1003
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, I don't start filibustering just to hear my voice, right,

1004
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: Like if I have a question, usually like I have

1005
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: a reason I'm asking it, um, you know, I would

1006
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: say like eight or nine times out of ten and

1007
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: then so so that's number one and then number two.

1008
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: Like you try to let people get the questions that

1009
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: they want to get in, but you also have to

1010
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: be aggressive too, because like I feel like the questions

1011
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: I was asking, like fans want to know, and then

1012
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, I want to write about what the answers were.

1013
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: So it's it's difficult because you kind of have to

1014
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: time it right. You have to time it exactly when

1015
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: Kevin or Andrew is done talking. You have to get

1016
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: in like at the split second they're finished, which is

1017
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: an art that some people might not be uh you know,

1018
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: as experienced with or uh you know, is talented in

1019
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: doing uh. It is an underrated part of the job.

1020
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you you noticed that because it

1021
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: was there was like a stretch there where I tried

1022
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: to ask a question like five times in a row

1023
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: and it just got body blows. Here's the deal. It

1024
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: would feel to me though, if you're a few of

1025
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: your words in and nobody else is say anything like

1026
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: they can't, then just hijack you. And it was happened,

1027
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: and Jake, I empathize you. You've been in many of

1028
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: these Ohio State postgame press conferences with fifty media people,

1029
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: and the hard thing is is there are different agendas.

1030
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: Right you cover the team on a daily basis. You

1031
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: are and and the recipet writers are too, and you're

1032
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: you're writing stories and you're generating content on a daily basis.

1033
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: You've got forty people in there. You've got people in

1034
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: there who aren't there all the time, who have different

1035
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: agendas and want to ask big picture questions. You might

1036
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: want to have specific, detailed questions because what you're writing

1037
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: is very different than what everybody else is. I've always

1038
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: found that in my experience, there almost should be two

1039
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: separate press conferences, one for the beat and one for

1040
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: the people who were there once a week or once

1041
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: every two weeks, because the agendas and people think agenda

1042
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: is a negative, it's not necessarily negative, it's just what

1043
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: you're trying to get out of them are two very

1044
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: different things. And that's what I think leads to a

1045
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: lot of the problems that you had yesterday. Do we

1046
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: have Jack, do we lose him? I think he was

1047
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: cut off by somebody else trying to take over the interview,

1048
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: and now he's out, he's out, He's out, Sorry, Jake.

1049
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: That's the hard It was crazy. The other thing, one

1050
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: of the best effective tool I've seen of this is

1051
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: actually from Ohio State, Jeredimmick does this. So what he

1052
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: does is he grand marshals the press conference. So he

1053
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: stands there, You raise your question, then he goes you,

1054
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: then you, then you. So that's it. And so if

1055
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: you have a follow up, it's I'm pointing at you.

1056
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: You go wanting to follow up, it's you you get

1057
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: your follow up, or if they answer your follow up,

1058
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: wanting to follow up onto the next. So you So

1059
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: it's on at the plate, on deck, in the hole,

1060
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: in the hole, ready to go. That's the that's the

1061
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: that's the best way to handle those because otherwise you

1062
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: just trample each other. It just felt to me like

1063
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: I wanted almost to have a reality show to follow

1064
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: it outside the presser because it felt like there were

1065
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: justifiably been some some tense words exchanged with people. That's

1066
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: really what has to to press. I don't know how

1067
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: much you heard of that, Jake, but you were cut off.

1068
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: I really need to press conferences, one for people who

1069
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: are there daily and one for people who are there

1070
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: once every two weeks, because the agendas are very different.

1071
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: And then I think you need a grand marshal to

1072
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: say you it's you your turn, then your turn, then

1073
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: your turn, and that way you're not stomping all over

1074
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: each other because it's impossible to to do. I mean,

1075
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: no one gets anything out of that yesterday. Yeah, it's

1076
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: very difficult, and I you know, I think that that

1077
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: you can establish a flow in a press conference, Like

1078
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: there were certain questions I wanted to ask that I

1079
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: was waiting until we got to that theme, Like right

1080
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: off the bat, we're talking about defensive coordinator and the

1081
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: defense and I wasn't gonna stick a you know, Deshaun

1082
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: Watson question in the middle of that, Like I was

1083
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: kind of waiting for that to play out. Then you

1084
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: come back to the next theme and then the theme

1085
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: after that, and then you know you kind of you.

1086
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: I try to participate in the theming of the press comfense, right,

1087
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't try to randomize it, but other people certainly do.

1088
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: And sometimes when things are kind of getting interesting, like oh,

1089
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: that was interesting, I want to ask him about this.

1090
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: And I think people should have the opportunity to ask

1091
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: follow ups like I would. I'd rather ask three questions

1092
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: in a row than like seven questions total, if that

1093
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: makes sense, Perfect sense, perfect, because then all your stuff

1094
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,959
Speaker 1: gets answered. That's where the whole thing is. It's Jake,

1095
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: and then and a follow up, and then you have it.

1096
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: You have the floor. No one's jumping in on you.

1097
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: They're not screaming trying to get the next guy up.

1098
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: It's gotta have we got We live in a society, Jake,

1099
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: we have to we have to follow rules here. Um,

1100
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: all right, So there's about a billion things that got

1101
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: to get solved this offseason. The crazy thing about it

1102
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: is none of these questions are going to be answered

1103
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: until you play the opener next year. So we're all

1104
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: going to talk about all of these things, but until

1105
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: you see it on the field, it's gonna be hard

1106
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: for Browns fans, I think, to be excited until you

1107
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: see it on the field. When you think of job

1108
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: won this offseason, what is job one for you? Well,

1109
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the job right in front of you is

1110
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: to hire defensive coordinator and to re establish a defensive

1111
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: identity and to work out some of the issues that

1112
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: plagued you. Um, you know, I think brown Stands might

1113
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: be more amenable to this fact now that they've actually

1114
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: fired their fits of coordinator. But there was a lot

1115
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: to like about the Browns defense basically from like weeks

1116
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: week six on, um, the past defense was you know,

1117
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: fringe e top five. I like, we all understand the

1118
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: breakdowns were frustrating and there were way too many of them.

1119
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: But even with those breakdowns, like the one we saw

1120
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: with George Pickens on Sunday, still a very good past defense.

1121
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: And it is hard to defend the past when like

1122
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: you can't stop the run at all. Uh, you know,

1123
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: like like go back to that Cincinnati game on the

1124
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: road where they run the was it the flee flicker

1125
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: and Grant Delpot bites and the guy's wide open. I mean, yeah,

1126
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: like delp it should not have bit that hard. But

1127
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: that's the type of play that you end up with

1128
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: if you can't stop the run and your safeties are

1129
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: crashing in and try to help, uh, you know, a

1130
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: halfless run defense. So it's not like the cupboard is

1131
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: bare at all. There's a lot of talent there and

1132
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: I do think that that that they can carry over

1133
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: some some of the moment minum that they played with

1134
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: towards the end of the season fixed in the run defense.

1135
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: And this is something I asked Andrew Berry yesterday. Is

1136
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: not going to be just a defensive coordinator issue. It's

1137
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: a personnel issue as well. Um I think we can

1138
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: debate like what that means exactly, but whatever personnel they

1139
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: had this year that wasn't gonna cut it, it's not

1140
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna cut it next year. So the weather that you

1141
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: you reconfigure your defensive tackle rotation, uh, your linebacker rotation,

1142
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: your safety is like whatever it ends up being, you've

1143
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: got to be much better against the run. Like you

1144
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: don't have to be the best run defensive in the NFL.

1145
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: You can't be the worst and have a confident defense.

1146
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: So to me, like what they need to look at first,

1147
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: it kind of all falls in under that purview. No,

1148
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: you're right, and then Jake, you talked touched on the

1149
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: defensive side. Obviously that is tasket hand. Let's talk about

1150
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: those coordinators, the names you have seen What are your

1151
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: kind of takes on those names, What are you hearing,

1152
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: if anything, who may be a potential favorite, and who

1153
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: do you think would be a great fit for the Browns. Yeah,

1154
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think all of those names are very

1155
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: intriguing for different reasons. I mean, the younger guys, like

1156
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: I just don't know as much about right because they're

1157
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: younger guys. Like in the case of Mayo, he just

1158
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: hasn't you know, called defensive yet defense yet. Uh, so

1159
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to know like what he would

1160
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: be like as a defensive coordinator. I think the other

1161
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: name that really hasn't been out there that I could

1162
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: see them interviewing if he were interested, as Jim Leonard.

1163
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: Uh you know who is the interim coach at Wisconsin,

1164
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, defensive coordinator there before that, uh you know,

1165
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: didn't get the head job because they hired Luke Fickle

1166
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati, which was a home run highed by the way,

1167
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: But like that's another guy I think that they would

1168
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: be interested in talking to if he were interested in

1169
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: coming to the NFL, which I think is uh seemed

1170
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: unclear at this point. Um, you know, there might be

1171
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: another name or two out there, Uh, you know Evro

1172
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: from from Denver who's getting you know, some head coaching looks.

1173
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: Uh is the guy that's really intriguing as well. You know,

1174
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: as bad as Denver was this season, their defense was excellent. Um,

1175
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: and he's an up and coming guy as well. So,

1176
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,959
Speaker 1: like there's some other name that they could get into.

1177
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably interview like five guys, give or take.

1178
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: When it's all said and done, what are we at.

1179
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: We're at four names right now that we know of. UM,

1180
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's gonna be yeah, five, okay,

1181
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's gonna be a lot more

1182
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: added to that. It's not like they're gonna interview uh,

1183
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen names for this position. I think what

1184
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: they need is is they've got to have a guy,

1185
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: uh that's gonna help establish the defensive culture on that

1186
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: side of the ball. And that's gotta be Kevin Stefanski too. Um.

1187
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: But like you talked to some of the players, all right,

1188
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: and they'll tell you, like it just wasn't the kind

1189
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: of leadership and accountability that you needed on that side

1190
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: of the ball this year. Um. That wasn't the only

1191
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: reason they struggled at times, but it definitely was part

1192
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: of it. Uh. You know, we saw it happen with

1193
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: Clowney late in the year. Multiple guys were you know,

1194
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: we're disciplined for for you know, kind of minor but

1195
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: not that minor off the field stuff. You know, your

1196
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: your bench for a series or bench borough play. Joe

1197
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: Woods last week, you know, said like we've had a

1198
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: lot of issues on that side of the ball. Like

1199
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: he didn't even try to sugarcoat it. Um And when

1200
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: you got like, you know, guys that are kind of

1201
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: important pieces that are like refusing to play on first

1202
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: and second down because they're upset with the game plan.

1203
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: Like you just can't have that, you can't have um.

1204
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: So they need somebody uh to come in who's gonna

1205
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: have that kind of grofits us with the guys um

1206
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: and is going to establish the culture that you need

1207
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: in order to have a San Francisco type defense, in

1208
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: order to have a Baltimore type defense, in order to

1209
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: have a Pittsburgh type defense. Because the talent is there,

1210
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: it's just can they get somebody that can put it

1211
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: all together for them? UM. And I think that that's

1212
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, guy's hard nosed is something that they're gonna

1213
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: be looking for yeah, And I think the other I

1214
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: think we have you hit on a lot of the

1215
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: things that are needed, and I think kind of both

1216
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, there's going to have to be Uh,

1217
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: there's been some guys who have been here a long

1218
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: time that need to take on a little bit more

1219
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: responsibility and leadership, right because we can talk about accountability

1220
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff, there's got to be accountability player

1221
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: to player to UM. And you can't help your personality, right,

1222
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different ways to lead. You lead

1223
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: by example, you'll be raw ra guy whatever. UM. But

1224
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: our best players UM are not I mean almost by

1225
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: in large And we don't really know about Nshan yet

1226
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: you know in terms of what type of style leadership

1227
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna have, UM. But in terms of our best players,

1228
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: they are not follow me to freedom guys. And not

1229
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: everybody has to be Jake, but you gotta have some

1230
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: of those guys. And I think you felt that void

1231
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: this year. And so to me, when you look at

1232
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: how important is that on your list of things as

1233
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: you you think about the roster construction, fore is just

1234
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: getting a couple of guys who have that juice to them,

1235
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: you know. And as I'm composing this, you know, obituary

1236
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: for the Brown season, what you're talking about makes the list.

1237
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: And I think that Myles Garrett gets too much criticism

1238
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: locally for a bunch of different things. The guy is

1239
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: like people take him for granted here. He is a

1240
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: phenomenal player. He is a an elite, elite pass rusher.

1241
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: Like those guys are almost impossible to get. And if

1242
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: you have one, like you are, you have a leg

1243
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: up in the game and it can help cover up

1244
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. And you know, Miles off

1245
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: the field is like we know Miles. Like Miles is uh,

1246
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, pretty mild mannered, Um, you know, pretty chill

1247
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, very interesting, like he's he

1248
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: like talking to Miles, I always um and interested. What

1249
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: he has to say is a ton of insight about

1250
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things. Um, but especially defensively kind

1251
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: of like offensively with the quarterback. You just need your

1252
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: best player to be that guy. And I think that's

1253
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a big key Miles as he looks to

1254
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: elevate his game to an even another you know, it's

1255
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: another level, Like can he feel some of that leadership boyd.

1256
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: The Browns really need him to um. And I know

1257
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: he is a uh, you know, he is a lead

1258
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: by example guy, but like, let's be honest, Like the

1259
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: Carrect thing, you know, took him out of the Atlantic game,

1260
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: and that was a game that really hurt him late

1261
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: in the year. You know, he got bench for a

1262
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: series for showing up late a couple of weeks ago.

1263
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: Like these these are not I mean, like these are

1264
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: not like um things that you know, uh, transgressions that

1265
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: are like super alarming. Um. Although like I'm glad that

1266
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: he was okay obviously you know from the correct but

1267
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: you just gotta have that guy that everybody is kind

1268
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: of afraid of and everybody's gonna listen to him. He

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01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: speaks up like we better shut up and listen to

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Speaker 1: what he has to say. And that's not I don't

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01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: know that that's Miles style, but it needs to become

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01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more of it. I think if the

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: Browns are going to reach that level, think this is

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01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: unfair to Miles. This is kind of my take on it.

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01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if you guys agree or disagree. I do agree.

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01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: I think Myles Garrett is number one one of the

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01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: you see the ven diagram today, No one of the

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: PFF guys they were trying to, I think with Sam

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01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: Monson found it. It was like trying to make sense

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01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: of like Miles, Parsons and Bosa and trying to separate

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01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: the three and the ven diagram. Miles was here, Parsons

1282
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: was here, Bosa was here. Like Miles, to Jake's point,

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01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: he is so damn elite at rushing the passer and

1284
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: creating pressure that he is the best in the league

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01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: at it, Constant double teams and win the most double

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01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: team player in the league. And and people are like,

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01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean I've heard, you know, Dan say we need

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01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: a trade, like you do not need it. Miles is

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01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: not part of the prop he is part of the solution.

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01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: But I go back to that Baltimore game and it

1291
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, like you guys remember players are screaming

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01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room afterward on the defensive side, um,

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, ironically that was the best game they played, uh,

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01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: you know, through like a two month stretch there, um

1295
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, and then come to find out clowneys you know,

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01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: refusing to go in like that's not I don't know

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01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: that that's for Kevin's Stefanski necessarily to police, Like that's

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01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: for Miles Garrett to police if your if your team

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be the best version of itself. Because Miles

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01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: is the best player. I don't care what anybody says,

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01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: like including Clowney, like, Miles is your best player, maybe

1302
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: your best player overall, and he's just he's got to

1303
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: run the defense, right, Yeah, And I think you're right.

1304
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: It needs to be police bottom up and top down,

1305
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: like it needs come from the locker room, and needs

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01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: come from the coaches, and needs all of it. But yes,

1307
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: there is a a mix there and you need your

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,959
Speaker 1: best players to be a part of that. It's your point, Jake,

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01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: if you were to disband the National Football League, and

1310
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: even if you call it for one year, but you

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: probably said five year window. Right. Miles Garrett is one

1312
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: of the first non quarterbacks drafted period and that tells

1313
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: you all you need to know about just how he is.

1314
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: He's that dominant, So yeah, we do take him for granted,

1315
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: that's on the defensive side of the ball. And yeah,

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: I think there are things that need to happen their

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: performance wise, culture wise, all of that flipping it to

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01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: the offense. You know, we went into this season, Jacob

1319
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: bo and I have talked about all the time. You know,

1320
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: it's either Anthony Schwartz is the key to this offense.

1321
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: He's gonna use his speed to open things up for

1322
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: everybody else, or if it's clear that he's not, you've

1323
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: got to get somebody else in here. Well, it was

1324
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: clear that he was not. Nobody else came in now

1325
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: DPJ career year, Amari Cooper career year, David d Joku

1326
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: career year, Nick Chubb career year. We still did all

1327
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: those things on offense. But that feels like to me,

1328
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: the biggest missing piece of this football team. Do you

1329
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: agree with that? And if so, how is that to

1330
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: be addressed? Is that going to be a free agent?

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01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: Is that going to be the draft? A combination, But

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: it just feels critical to me. Yeah, And if the

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01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: guys they have on the roster, uh, you know, David Bell,

1334
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: Michael Woods, the second Felton, I mean, who else am

1335
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: I forgetting? You know, Jackie Grant when he comes back

1336
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: off the Achilles. I just I don't I don't see

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: any of those guys as that guy, right, Like, I

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01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: just I don't know that there's going to be an

1339
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: internal development guy that becomes the guy who's talking about.

1340
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard to sign that guy

1341
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: in free agency given a you know, you're limited resources

1342
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: until you do it Deshaun Watson contract restructure or um,

1343
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're the fact that you're you're, you

1344
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: know you're you're strapped on draft picks right now because

1345
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: of the trade. So it kind of feels like that

1346
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: the second pick in the draft, I think they can

1347
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: go one of two ways. They can draft a defensive lineman,

1348
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: which they desperately need tackle in whatever, or if they

1349
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: don't go there, they're probably going to go receiver. That

1350
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: would be my prediction right now now. I don't know,

1351
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: like I haven't even out to the point where I

1352
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: know who who might be available then who that guy

1353
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: might be. But that's kind of where I see, uh,

1354
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, that pick or that guy coming from you know.

1355
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: I mean. The other part of it too is I

1356
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 1: had forgotten about this until I was looking at the

1357
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: draft yesterday. They don't have a third round pick either

1358
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: that went into the Watson trade as well. Um, but

1359
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: thankfully they do have a cop pick from Quest going

1360
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: to Minnesota probably gonna be what guys like one oh

1361
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: one is like, maybe that's where you use that pick um,

1362
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, it is. It is a there's a lot

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: to like about the offense. That is an area that

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: would help if they had like a guy that you actually,

1365
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, had to worry about defensively in that position. Yeah,

1366
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: you have to. We never have to worry about you, sir.

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01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: Great stuff today is always appreciate your time. Alright, guys, Nathan,

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01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: I hope I didn't depress you too much. I was

1369
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: just venting about a bunch of different It's a long season, right,

1370
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: we can all agree with, yes, my optimism. It was

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: disappointing for me too. It was frustrating. I mean it's

1372
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: frustrating for everybody. Everybody wanted this team to win and

1373
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: be better and be playing this weekend because you felt like,

1374
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: all right, we had our opportunities to do so. And

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01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: that's what arts the most. And yesterday, you know how

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01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: Nathan is half class four. We're talking about the season.

1377
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: He goes, you're depressing me. I gotta go work out

1378
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: or something, all right. That's my boy, always the last

1379
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: half full. That's why I love it. Thanks to your time, buddy,

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01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: see you guys. All right, that's Jake Trotter of ESPN

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Speaker 1: around the league. I did see this from Cowboys owner

1392
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones yesterday, losing in the wild card round will

1393
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: not impact head coach Mike McCarthy's job status. Give me right,

1394
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: you sure about that? No? I don't think he is.

1395
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: I think he called Sean Payton. That's been predetermined forever.

1396
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: He is in a win now situation entirely. Well, he's

1397
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: not saying that. It means he's still the coach. He said,

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01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: I won't impact the status, which the status probably was.

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01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to talk to John Payton. Yeah, I would

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: feel like that's gotta you know, they've been trying to

1401
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: do this forever. There was there's that legendary story at

1402
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: the combine whereafter the Saints won the Super Bowl. Uh,

1403
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:54,919
Speaker 1: Sean Payton put the the Saints bill on Jerry Jones's

1404
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,799
Speaker 1: tab and then signed an empty bottle of like Camus

1405
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: or opus or something like that, uh and said super

1406
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: Bowl champion New Orleans Saints, thank you for dinner and

1407
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: courtesy of the Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints. So

1408
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: there's been a flirtation forever. He assisted Bill over there

1409
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: like this. If there ever was a time, it would

1410
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: be now. Now. You gotta work out compensation with the Saints.

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01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: That's the thing. They're saying a one and it's a

1412
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty four. Um. The crazy thing is

1413
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: is like, if you're Peyton, your your contract situation is

1414
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: going to harm your new team significantly. So so it's

1415
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: almost like he would be best served just sitting it

1416
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: out for three years and or coming up with some

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01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: sort of buyout with New Orleans so that they would

1418
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: he could be relieved of that, Like give them a

1419
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: deal on something so that he can be relieved of that.

1420
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: To me, you've got to find a way out of that.

1421
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: You don't want to lose a one. No, you certainly

1422
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: do not want to lose a one. It's a that's

1423
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: an interesting thing. And you wonder if he will ultimately

1424
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: when he makes his decision, appeal to the Saints and say,

1425
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: for all that I've done for this organization, can you Catrina?

1426
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl breeze helped me out here? Like throw me. Yeah,

1427
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm not hurting you guys now, it's not helping you

1428
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: as much as it would, but like, don't hurt me, right,

1429
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: I think that that has to take place, that conversation

1430
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: with that, that that conversation would have to take place. Um,

1431
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 1: they are. It's still I say this every time and

1432
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: it continues to amaze me. He's available after every game.

1433
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 1: He does those hits Jerry does all the time because

1434
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: the g M and the owner it's just wild, um,

1435
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: but he does. He has been in a probably in

1436
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: his mind a super Bowl window with Romo and Dak

1437
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: for twenty years without without and not only without, but

1438
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: never really getting close, never getting to the game. Have

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: they played in an NFC Championship game since? Have they

1440
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: been in one? I don't think Romo because Roma only

1441
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: on one playoff game and Dad hasn't. Dad hasn't. They

1442
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: got hosed, Romo should have. They got hose on the

1443
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. Yeah, that's in Minnas. So it was that

1444
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: battle green Bay, Green Bay Bay. Yes, and then Seattle

1445
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: beat Green Bay because like the next week they dropped

1446
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: like the onside kick or something. Yeah, if I have

1447
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: that right, Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, they really

1448
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: haven't gone. He's been chasing this since nine when somehow

1449
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: they wanted with Barry Switzer with the remnants of Jimmy

1450
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: Johnson's roster um. But he's been chasing it and he's gone.

1451
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: He's had good quarterbacks, they've had good defenses, They've had playmakers.

1452
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: I really think last year was the one that not

1453
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: that they would have you know, they were going to

1454
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: be a team that could beat the Rams, but they

1455
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: should have been like if they were fully healthy, their

1456
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: defense had big time playmakers. Parsons as a dude, they

1457
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: had a Mari at that time. They had Ceedee Lamb,

1458
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: Like there was no reason for that Cowboys team last

1459
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: year to not be one that made a run. Agree,

1460
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: and and now it feels like they've missed it a

1461
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: little bit to me in terms of because Doc has

1462
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: not been as sharp as he was this year. He

1463
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: was dreadful son. He led the NFL in interceptions, and

1464
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: he has not played a full season team right, fifteen

1465
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: picks in twelve games. He has been bad, all right. Listen,

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01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: they messed up trading Mark Cooper, plain simple. That was

1467
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: a big mistake. And yet Doc has not been He

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01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: hasn't been great. No, they're dangerous, but I think Brady

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01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: could get him. I wouldn't bet against Brady neither. This

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01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 1: week eight the Brock Purdy has been the best quarterback

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01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: in the NFL since he's taken over for the Niners.

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01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: He's been unbelievable. Thirteen touchdowns, four picks, sixty eight percent

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Speaker 1: complete percentage, haven't lost. The only one time we're even close,

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Speaker 1: Raiders got him close. Yeah. No, they've been unbelievable. A

1475
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: couple other things from the front office. I want to

1476
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: run by you the in in with the Rams and

1477
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, his offensive coordinator, left today to go to

1478
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: Kentucky to be the officeive coordinator there. Yeah, that's because

1479
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: he's leaving well, and also because it could also be

1480
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: that the SEC will pay two million dollars for you

1481
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: to be a coordinator, and you're not paying coordinators two

1482
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: million bucks in the NFL, so financially it could be

1483
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: that too. He'd been at Kentucky before, so they're past um.

1484
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: But mcveigh's got this thing that he's waiting on. Stafford

1485
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 1: says his future is not tied to McVeigh. McVeigh probably

1486
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: feels like you should have left last year, But I

1487
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: don't know that there's a broadcast job for him to

1488
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: fall into unless Amazon would pull herb Street after one years.

1489
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if al wanted it, they would, but you'd

1490
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: have to. I'm guessing that was the Kirk got some

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01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: sort of commitment from them to be able to do it,

1492
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they wouldn't mind paying him his commitment.

1493
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Are they cash trapped, I believe they're not.

1494
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: They laid off a bunch of people, so they must be.

1495
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: It must be really hurt. Yeah, they laid off a

1496
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: ton of people. And this from Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell

1497
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray will have input on the team's head coaching search.

1498
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: Careful what you wish for their feels like, yeah, I

1499
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: still think after this playoffs, unless they go on a

1500
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: crazy run and maybe even if you know you people

1501
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: were saying along Arizona, you know Peyton would I don't

1502
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: think he wants any part of that. I do think

1503
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: the charges job will be a very attractive job. Yeah,

1504
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: it's the most I mean, if the so what do

1505
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: we got like that? One's not open right now? Right

1506
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: now we have Carolina, Denver, Houston, Houston, Indie, Arizona, Arizona,

1507
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: potentially Rams not attractive, No, not at all, um, potentially Chargers. Yeah,

1508
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: they'd have to lose this weekend. If he wins around,

1509
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: I can't that'd be tough to fire. Is you get

1510
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: Sean Payton? Like you gotta have one? I means Hispana's family.

1511
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna pay a coach ten million bucks? And well

1512
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 1: are they to coach? They're gonna pay Stanley not to coach.

1513
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: They're gonna pay Stanley not to coach. They're gonna pay uh,

1514
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: Sean Payton ten million bucks. They're gonna to give up

1515
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: a one like is that is that family? Willing to

1516
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 1: do that in a market where they don't play home games.

1517
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: Probably not, Probably not. I mean, none of these what's

1518
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: the best? I think Houston might be the most attractive

1519
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: start from scratch, tons of capr into I think as well,

1520
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: you gotta tuck yourself into that depending up. You know

1521
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 1: what that is. Indy's a quarterback away. But I mean

1522
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: ownership is tough there Arizona. With Kyler two years ago,

1523
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: you would have said, give me the Kyler. I mean

1524
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: that kid had a lot of special tools. But it's

1525
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: all been bad. Insane, bad body language, bad play, bad everything. Yeah,

1526
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: bad at it. The whole thing is bad. None of

1527
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: it works. Um. One of the things from the broadcast

1528
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: booth New York Post reporting that NBC has swiped Todd

1529
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: Blackledge from their team to team with Noah Eagle for

1530
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: the new Big Ten coverage that will be happening. Black

1531
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: Lidge is awesome. I really like him on on on

1532
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: college football through the years on ABC. He's awesome. Uh.

1533
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: Maria Taylor, the host of Football Night in America, will

1534
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: take the lead on studio duties for NBC's new Big

1535
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: Ten coverage. Here is the thing that nobody knows about this.

1536
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: So this is the Saturday stuff is who is going

1537
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: to get diority in these Big ten games because you

1538
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: have three heavy hitters, which is why the lead is

1539
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna get over a hundred million dollars a year per

1540
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: team in order to provide this content. You have Fox

1541
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: at big noon, CBS at three thirty and that's replacing

1542
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: the SEC because they lost the SEC package. And then

1543
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: NBC at night at eight o'clock. Who is getting How

1544
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: are they going to sort that out? Who's getting first pick?

1545
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: You can't. I mean at some time you're gonna have

1546
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: Iowa Illinois in a three thirty window on CBS. That's coming.

1547
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: Oh man, So you you got Ohio state. In terms

1548
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: of big tent programs, you got o highest state number one,

1549
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: Michigan to USC probably three, Penn State four. Who's doing

1550
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: the rest of these games? Man, that's a that is

1551
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: a very tricky one to say the least. Quite Yes,

1552
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 1: well that's what you need, Notre Dame and Clemson, and

1553
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: you need more more teams that are draws. Uh. I

1554
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: like no Eagle. I think it's a good job. I do.

1555
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: I think they'll do a good job with that. He'll

1556
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: be fine by the way. I was just looking through

1557
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 1: as we were discussing going around the league. Good job

1558
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: by us on the scores this week. Unbelievable. Yeah, we

1559
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: limped home. Yeah, but you started. I got the first eight.

1560
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: I was six of eight, but then I got a

1561
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: couple of We we both ended up with tens. If

1562
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: you followed, we got every game. One of us got

1563
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: every game, right, But what do we both get wrong? Dallas,

1564
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Um and Seattle. Yeah, all right, how you're

1565
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 1: welcome and ah hm, locker clean out day. You'll hear

1566
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: from John Johnson, Greg Newso, Nick Chubb, joeb Atonio that's

1567
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: coming up next to clean them arounds Daily Rot You

1568
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,799
Speaker 1: by baallely Bet Coming to do Ohio on ESPN Cleveland,

1569
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by baallely Bet coming

1570
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. All right,

1571
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: yesterday was locker room clean out day. Some of our

1572
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: players were available. Let's start with John Johnson has been

1573
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: very outspoken. Let's start with him on the fire you

1574
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: of Joe Woods ah Man, any time you don't have

1575
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: she says like somebody gotta take a fall for uh.

1576
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: Like I said after the game and everyone on the staff.

1577
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: They're good people with good coaches. So I know he'll

1578
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: land on his feet. Um as far as you know,

1579
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: if he takes people with him or whoever it comes in,

1580
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: are they gonna, you know, keep the guys over. I

1581
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 1: have no idea, but like I said, everyone's good people there,

1582
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: land on their feet. Let's continue with John Johnson here.

1583
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: He is on the disciplinary issues amongst the defense. Way

1584
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: too many, way too many. I mean, just you want

1585
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: to focus on any focus on football, It's hard to

1586
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: do that when you've got like small stuff. You know,

1587
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: it's a it's a job, it's a profession in this,

1588
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: like you gotta come ready every single day. It's just

1589
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: like way too many to be focused on. You know,

1590
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: we got other stuff to focus on. So it's something

1591
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: you just gotta work on, put it in the past

1592
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: and grow from it. And I think, you know, maybe,

1593
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: like I said that new jobs that you might open

1594
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: up a little spark for us to to get it together.

1595
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: Only they control that, yes, yeah, personal responsibility and accountability.

1596
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: I think we'll we'll help this football team, yeah very much.

1597
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: Um here's Greg Newsoon on the fiery of Joe Woods.

1598
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: Um obviously, um it wasn't a good feeling for me.

1599
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the guys that you know

1600
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 1: and you know picked me as well, so you know,

1601
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: I have a lot of love for him, a lot

1602
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: of respect for him. So it's definitely sad to see

1603
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: him going. For sure, here's do some some on the

1604
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: keys to the defensive takeaways and improve it in the

1605
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: second half of the season. Um. Yeah, honestly, just think

1606
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: it's just honestly just keeping things more of vanilla. I mean,

1607
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: like when you when you got the talent that we

1608
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: have on the defense, like kind of just you know,

1609
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: calling bass stuff, just allow us to go out there,

1610
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, keep our eyes on the quarterback and you know,

1611
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: just play ball. So um, I feel like, you know,

1612
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: Joe did a great job in the second half of

1613
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: the you know year with just like realizing like, you

1614
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: know what, maybe we don't need to call everything. Let's

1615
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: just you know, sorting the menu down and just let

1616
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: those guys go out there and play. Um. And I

1617
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: think when we did that, you know you can kind

1618
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: of see how to take over start change nor let's

1619
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: switch you to the offensive side of the ball. We

1620
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: met you this yesterday. We want to make sure we

1621
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,959
Speaker 1: got it in at the end, and it was otherwise

1622
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: a bit of a tough show. But Nick Chubb's incredible

1623
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: individual achievement. Now I have not heard this, but I can.

1624
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: I feel like I already know how Nick Chubb is

1625
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: going to answer this question in terms of how excited

1626
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: he is about being a fifty eard yard rusher, the

1627
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 1: only NFL running back ever to have this amount of

1628
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: carries in five consecutive years with five yards per carry.

1629
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: Here is Nick Chubb on that. It's a bitter sweet,

1630
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 1: you know, individually, you know, since I'm proud of for

1631
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: sure how a lot of help the olon and gas

1632
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: blocking for me. But at the end of the day,

1633
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm about winning and I didn't have you,

1634
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: I didn't have yesterday, I didn't have a lot this season.

1635
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: So uh, it's still to be proud of for sure.

1636
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: From from this season, um as things we need to

1637
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: work on, but overall, you know, it's just a bitter sweet,

1638
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: all right, now, Yeah, he did. There are a lot

1639
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: of things that this offense. I mentioned about a career

1640
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: high in receiving touchdowns for Amori, career high in rushing

1641
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: yards for Nick Chubb, tied his career high in receiving touchdowns,

1642
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: career high in receptions for David the Joke who tied

1643
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: his career high in touchdowns, Donovan People's Jones new career

1644
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: highs and receptions, receiving yards and tied his career high

1645
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 1: in receiving touchdowns. We didn't win enough, Nope, Myles Garrett

1646
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: tied career high in sacks, Denzel Ward tied career high

1647
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: in interceptions, Grant Delpitt new career high and interceptions career

1648
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: high and tackles. We didn't win enough. And a guy

1649
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: who feels that, as Joel Bettonio here is one of

1650
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: the one of the very best players well frankly that's

1651
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: ever played for this organization. Here's Joel. You know, I

1652
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: hate using the word, but I'm getting older. You know,

1653
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 1: I'm getting older, and you don't know how many years

1654
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 1: you have left playing. I'm not in your two or

1655
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: three where it's like, hey, I got a lot of

1656
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: time left. So it um, it's one of those things

1657
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: where I want to win, like everybody wants to win.

1658
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: But you put in the work, you play this game. Obviously,

1659
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: there's you know, we get paid a lot of money.

1660
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: We uh, you know, it's a dream to play this game,

1661
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: to just even have the opportunity to play it. But

1662
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we all want to

1663
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: win a super Bowl and like you feel like a

1664
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: little bit of your careers, you know, empty if you

1665
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: don't have that opportunity, So you know, you run out

1666
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: of time eventually get he didn't get to play in

1667
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: the playoff game that we won in Pittsburgh. I got

1668
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: to play against the Chiefs, but didn't be thinking about

1669
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: it all off season. So much more to come. You

1670
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: listen to Cleve the Bronze Daily brought you by Bally Bet,

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01:26:52,320 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: Coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Owns Daily

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01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,280
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1673
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: on ESPN Cleveland. All right tomorrow on the program, what

1674
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 1: we learned from Week eight, teams start taking a look

1675
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: at some of these, uh playoff matchups. Uh this was

1676
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: it was really you want to think about box office.

1677
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: Uh the NFL was really close to Pittsburgh as a

1678
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: seven and Green Bay as a seven. You think about

1679
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: how they would have done this, you know, when these

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Speaker 1: games were played differently had that been the case significantly,

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Speaker 1: I mean Green Bay Diners would been the number one pick.

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Speaker 1: That would have been Sunday at eight. Pittsburgh Buffalo would

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Speaker 1: have been Saturday at eight. That's how that would have gone.

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Speaker 1: And maybe Monday, Monday whatever those are. Then the three

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Speaker 1: in prime time um and said, you've got some new

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Speaker 1: faces here and this a f C thing is going

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Speaker 1: to be a full day. It's awesome. The quarterbacks are

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Speaker 1: and who knows, by the way, do you see Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: today with Lamar not Still don't know is he gonna

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Speaker 1: p No one knows anything, how I would agree the

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