WEBVTT - Winds of Change 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.440 Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.120 week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.400 of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.440 treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:20.160 rich pill poppers in the penthouse to clearinghouse of hot takes, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.040 break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:35.639 Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. Welcome in 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:40.760 the beginning of another edition of The Fifth Hour with 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:45.160 Ben Maller Saturday, Saturday Saturday. Because four hours a night 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.960 or not enough, We do this eight days a week. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.520 No need for the applause. But we are here eight 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:58.440 days a week to provide you with marginal audio content. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.280 As you know, we do the radio show five nights 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:06.959 a week on the overnight and on demand. Absolutely so 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.520 for those of you that say there is too much Mallard, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:15.440 please never enough, never enough. So on this Saturday edition 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.399 of The Fifth Hour, we we have breaking news, actually 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:25.160 breaking news, the winds of change, a Fifth Hour with 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.279 Ben mallor exclusive. You will not hear this content anywhere else. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.240 We will give you that coming up here in a bit. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:40.080 Also time snamp Madness under the covers No More and 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.240 the Big Oh and whatever else we have time to 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:48.240 get to. But let's begin with the winds of change. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:54.040 And they have affected our radio program. Uh, they have. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.880 And if you've listened to this show over the last 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.040 probably month or two, you have heard a lot of 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:06.040 me and not that much of the person that I've 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:10.360 been doing the podcast with and uh and and for 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.320 the past couple of months, it's kind of been like that, 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.400 less and less of West of the four oh five 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:22.040 David A. Gascon. But that was not by design. Uh, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.760 that was not by design. When this podcast started, it 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.639 was a collaboration. We were both gonna be be available 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.440 as much as we could. We make it a priority. Unfortunately, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.880 because you know, some work assignments, which is really good 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.040 news for for David. He's gotten a lot of play 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:43.480 by play gigs. He's taken other side work, acting jobs, 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.080 and you name it. And as a result of his 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:51.840 other assignments, he has been unable to provide his time 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.600 for this podcast on a regular basis. And he made 0:02:55.600 --> 0:03:01.600 the decision earlier this week that that's all he don't 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:06.080 he don't and so no More, Uh, David Gascon on 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:13.840 the fifth hour and Uh. Yes, I'm I'm bummed out. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.960 I was hoping we could work it out and David 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.160 could be part of the podcast going forward. I think 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.160 this thing is gonna be even bigger than it is 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.520 right now. Uh and I truly believe that because of 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.840 the the audience that has continued to go up. And 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.280 we as you know, you complain about the commercials on 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.519 the podcast, but that's a good problem to have, right 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:39.640 The problem is when there are no commercials, right, that's yeah, 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.839 that's that's when things are not going well. That's that's 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.000 when you haven't done your job. When there are a 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:51.920 lot of commercials, then you're winning. Yeah, stripe up the fans. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.080 It's a big deal. Uh. So the podcast is doing 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.280 very well and uh and and we I'm really happy 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.280 for David because he wants to play by play and 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.640 he's not it's not really a podcast guy per se. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.400 And uh and he you know, he was unhappy with 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:10.800 some things, and we don't need to get into all 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.600 that here, but I am happy for him. I hope 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.120 he becomes the play by play guy for a college 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:20.440 or major college or an NFL team or NBA team. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.760 Someone should hire David Gascon as a play by play guy, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.040 and I'm hoping that he gets a big network job somewhere. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:33.719 As for the fifth hour going forward, is it going 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:41.000 to be just a solo act, just me bloviating into 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:47.960 a open microphone and sounding like a clown. Uh, well, 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.200 there will be a lot of me going forward. But 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.359 I have talked with management as a result of the 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.440 events of the last week, and I am very excited 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.679 to find out who is going to fill the number 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.320 two chair on this podcast. I have already had several 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.440 conversations with the big boss at the company. That's how 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.240 important this podcast is. That management is like, all right, 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.600 we gotta figure this out because they've got we've got 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.200 good advertisers here, and they don't want to They don't 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:19.600 want to have this thing up. They want this thing 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.280 to get even bigger and better than it has been. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.680 So if you want to suggest someone who should be 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.040 in the number two chair, who you think would be 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:36.080 a great a sidekick someone writing shotgun with me, you 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.279 can do that. I will tell you that the wheels 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:42.240 are in motion. And we've already had conversations, as I said, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.360 myself and management, and we have had a couple of 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.040 names that are at the very top of the list. People. 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:53.560 Some of them you would recognize other than other names, Uh, 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:57.760 probably not so much. Uh. And these are people that 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.760 I know in radio, people that you may know. Some 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.840 have worked on the show in the past, some have not, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.480 some I've never worked with. And it's it's really a 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.359 matter of the schedules lining up. Because of the overnight show, 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.719 there's only certain windows that are available for me to 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:19.560 put the podcast together, and as a result of that, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:27.040 I have a pretty unusual, pretty unusual schedule, and so 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:31.320 we have to find someone that can accommodate that schedule, 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.480 and we'll see if that person is out there. Hopefully 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.200 it's one of the candidates that have already been mentioned. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.240 I can't name them here. I've been told by management 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.360 not to do that. But we think of it like 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:50.719 a Mallard fifth hour draft, right, and the fifth hour 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.800 is on the clock, and the pick is in and 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.080 the pick we don't have to pick. We don't We 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.520 do not yet have the pick. But again, I have 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.120 spoken to a couple of people that are interested in 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.240 the job, and we will find out going forward. But 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.720 I am looking forward to, uh to having uh, you know, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.080 someone here who's gonna be able to be part of 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.200 it and bounce things off. Uh. And I think it'll 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.200 be better that way, to have someone regularly here, and 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.640 we'll get bigger and better guests and all that stuff. 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.000 I I do hope you enjoyed one of the more 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:31.680 wild hours that I have had doing conversation spoken word radio. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:36.400 It reverberated around the podcast world. John Ziegler who joined 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.360 us on the Friday podcast. And I imagine my inbox 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.760 is full right now. I've not checked with emails. I 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.280 can't believe you'll put that guy on. I thought he 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.440 was great. I thought he was interesting, and to me, 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.200 the whole point of doing a podcast like this is 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:59.880 to let interesting voices speak. And I was a fan 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.280 John when he did radio at CALFI in l A 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.920 back in the day. I do follow him on Twitter. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.680 He's a firebrand. Uh. He's a lightning rod guy, very enthusiastic, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.640 can talk and talk and talk. I wasn't even much 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.720 on the podcast on Friday. It was. I asked a 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.040 few questions and then I I got out of the 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.840 way and I said, all right, let's get into it now. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.760 I know some of you are gonna be upset because 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.720 political bullshit Yeah, there was some of that that was 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:35.840 part of the podcast. But everything is political now and 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.360 so just kind of get over It's okay, it's not 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.920 that big a deal. Life will go on. Life will 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:45.840 going But I thought John was wonderful, and you should 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.560 check that out. You know, you've got to be open 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.080 minded about things and say what you want about John 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.800 and in his personality, and some don't like it. I 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:55.640 think he's as I said, I think he's very good. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.360 But the thing about John is he has spent the 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:03.119 better part of a decade as an investigative journalist tracking 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:07.360 down just about everyone who's still alive tied to the 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.000 penn State story. So he has not cut any corners. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.839 He is. He mentioned in the podcast, he's traveled back 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.400 to State College, Pennsylvania, back to the prison in Pennsylvania 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.520 where Jerry Sandusky is in jail. He's talked to him, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.160 he's talked to relatives, he's talked to people on all 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:30.520 sides of the spectrum, and he determined, And we can 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.280 go back and hear the Friday podcast if you want, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:36.720 but he mentioned that he he determined, with a thorough investigation, 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.240 the outcome that he did not expect, even though he 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.760 was open minded going into it, but that he determined 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.240 he thinks the Penn State story is a fraudulent story, 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:51.080 and yeah, it didn't happen. I don't know. I mean, 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.640 that's what he said, and for many it's hard to believe. 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.839 And uh I I have listened to some of the 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.600 podcasts that John's done. He makes a very compelling argument. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.120 And as I told him in the podcast, is that 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.760 if if this is all accurate, all the evidence that 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:10.440 you have, you've pretty much laid out the roadmap for 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.439 a an appeal, and what is a compelling case for 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:20.240 a victory in an appeal? But it hasn't happened. And 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.840 John mentioned there would be some documentaries that are that 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.640 have been in the works about Joe Paterno about Penn State, 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.240 So we'll see if anything comes to that. But I 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.520 do recommend the The Friday podcast if you did not 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:36.160 hear our conversation with John Ziegler. Now moving on the 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:41.280 time stamp madness, the time stamp manage, and this is 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.120 I'm just gonna geek out a little bit on broadcasting. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.240 And as you may or may not know, one of 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.360 the cool jobs that I had for very for a 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.800 very brief time. Couple of years, I did Dodger pregame 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.800 and postgame programming. Um, I was a phil guy for 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.320 part of a year. I did uh travel briefly with 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.480 the Dodgers, very briefly. I went on some road trips 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.720 with the team, and I got to know Vince Scully 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.640 a little bit. Vince and I cons all time great 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.840 right is the the o G And Vinn was very 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.320 nice to me. And just the fact that he knew 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.760 my name uh as as a as a kid growing 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.840 up listening to Vince Scully and watching him on TV, 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.440 I was like, Wow, this guy, man, this guy knows 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.800 me walking the footsteps of legends and Vinn. It's been 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.560 retired and I haven't seen uh Mr Scully in many years. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.320 And I did see on his Twitter account. By the way, Vin, 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.160 I think it's an open secret, not on Twitter, but 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.280 there is someone that works for the Dodgers that provides 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:49.040 content quasi from Vince Scully and so on the the 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.080 Vince Scully Twitter account, Vinn shared an interview that he did. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:58.360 I believe it's for a documentary and I wanted to 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.480 play the clip for you because it was is great 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.040 and I love stuff like this. I love that so 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:10.319 much of life is experimentation and just throwing spaghetti against 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:14.400 the wall, and every once in a while, every once 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.320 in a while, a bunch of that spaghetti sticks. And 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:22.760 even the all time greats like Vince Scully, uh, they 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.960 have this happened. So to set this up, Vin is 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:31.679 doing an interview about sports commentary. It's called The Commentators, 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:36.480 a hundred years of sports commentary and the the classic 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:42.400 Vince Skully no hitter call and the Sandy Kofax perfect game, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.400 which is an all time great call. If you're a 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.520 fan of radio play by play, you know exactly what 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.320 I'm talking about, even if you're a young punk and 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.160 you know, like Sandy Kofax is like a dinosaur to you, 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.800 you know that call, And so I wanted to play this. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.120 This is from the again the Vin Scully Twitter account. 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.199 Do Vince Scully and this has been and will react 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.200 to it. This has been telling a story about what 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:12.760 became his signature for no hitters and perfect games. Here's 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.000 the greatest play by play man in baseball history, the 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.920 Great Vince Scully. In his own words, you know when 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.960 you do play by play every day, but just about 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.960 sixty seven years. Once in a while, you get lucky 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.959 when I say lucky. Let me explain. Whenever the Dodgers 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.720 had a picture pitching a no hitter, or the opposing 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:38.640 picture was pitching a no hitter, we would always tape 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.080 the ninth inning and we would then give that picture 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.680 with whatever team. As far as a record of the 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.520 night or day that he pitched the no hitter takes 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:54.640 Andy Kofax. Cofax had pitched three no hitters, and in 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.760 the course of each of the three, I always made 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.640 sure that I got the a of the no hitter, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.480 so that when Sandy would be walking out to the man, 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.559 I would say, and so on this July Sandy co 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.480 Fax heading for the man to try and pick up 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.480 X number of victories and a no hitter against so 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.560 and so. Well the night it is perfect game. In 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.560 my mind was the fact, what else can I put 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.560 on the tape so that thirty years from now, when 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:31.000 he's playing it and reliving the moment, he'll have the date. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.800 All right, let's stop right there. So Vince Scully actually 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:40.440 created the cameo. He gave Sandy ko Fax a cameo 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.760 in any picture that threw a no hitter for the 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:47.400 Dodgers or against the Dodgers. So he just mentioned the date, 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.880 the origin of the date, and now he mentioned he 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.840 wanted to add something different. And this is where it 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.920 gets even more interesting. The great Vince Skule, He continues, 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.320 go ahead, Mr Scully, and I thought, I know, I'll 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:02.120 put the time on it down. The time is useless 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.400 as far as baseball is concerned. It wasn't in the 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.840 old days, but it is now. So I did the game, 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.680 and I would start calling off the time, only thinking 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:17.840 of Sandy Kofax and the kids listening about his perfect game. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.440 And so it was at nine he does this, at 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.080 he does that, and he pitches the perfect game for 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:31.280 the next few days. The only thing I heard about 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:36.040 was how dramatic it was to have the time included 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.320 on the game. Did I take about couldn't do it. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.560 I just happened to look out. Be sure to catch 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.240 live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.120 am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.920 the I Heart Radio app. All right, so that's the 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.240 sound bite from the great Vin School. A couple of thoughts. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:59.040 First of all, self deprecating, right, he just looked out 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.560 but the story that Ben told is something that I've 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.880 heard a lot in my life. I think it's a 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:13.640 good lesson that just experimentation getting positive feedback. We're all 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:18.160 wired the same way as human beings. We love positive feedback. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.320 It keeps us going, right, was like, all right, you 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.120 got some good feedback, you gotta you got something kind 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:27.280 of working here, and let's do it. And you know 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.160 the idea that the whole point of ven giving the 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:36.960 date and giving the time was just a personal audio 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:41.360 cassette to hand to Sandy Kofax or Don Drysdale or 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.160 Bob Gibson or whoever was the great picture back in 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.920 those old days. And uh, I have effort start. We 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.680 had on this podcast, you know, a couple of months back, 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:54.320 we had Ted Sobel's uh in l A sports media 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.320 guy icon in l A Media for years, Ted Sobel, 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.080 and he's told stories. He wrote a book about broadcasting 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.920 and his experiences in l A and Brushing with Greatness 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.040 or something along the lines of that. But Ted and 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.680 and some other people would tell stories about going to 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.280 dodge a stadium and you didn't even need to bring 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:20.760 a radio because so many people had radios. That the 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:25.640 soundtrack from the crowd was Vince Scully doing the play 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.040 by play like the players on the field. Could hear 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.840 Vin doing the play by play? He might as well 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.600 have been on the public address system at Chavez Ravine. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.480 It was that that crazy. I guess that was the 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:42.879 days before headphones and uh and whatnot. But I really secondly, 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.680 I relate to this a little bit. One of the 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:52.159 catchphrases that I fell into was in the air everywhere 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.960 right kind of hockey, kind of cornball, and I just 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.880 shouted it out one time when I first started Fox 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.760 was fright. I didn't say that. I didn't really have 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:06.439 much of anything. And one night, it was a Saturday night. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.760 If I remember as I remember it, if I'm remembering 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.840 it accurately, and remember we as as we get older, 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.639 our memory is a version of the truth, but not 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.920 likely the whole truth, only part of the truth. But 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.920 as I remember the story as I understand it, I drove, 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:24.800 I was driving it. It was a Saturday night, overnight, 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.560 and in those days it was like a six hour show, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.440 five hours live, one hour repeated, and occasionally we would 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.080 actually do all six hours live. So it was a 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:39.040 long road in the overnight, long time and so I 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.240 came in there and I just started with my usual 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.480 bull crab and I began there. I was like, we 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:50.639 are in the air everywhere, and just like Vince Gully, 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:52.480 not quite as much positive feedback, but I got a 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.240 lot of positive feedback. People like, that's a good line, 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.600 that's catchy. I like that, you should say that more. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:01.040 And thus here we are, many years later, and just 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.160 about every hour of talk radio that I have done 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:10.000 for probably the last ten years, I think it actually 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.440 goes longer than that. I'm very bad at dates, but 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:18.160 it goes longer than that. And sure enough, now if 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:19.960 I begin an hour and I don't say in the 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.600 air everywhere, someone inevitably will say, why didn't you say that? Well, 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.080 it's up with that. How come you didn't say in 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.720 the air everywhere? That's not right. You're supposed to say that. 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:32.200 You're the in the air every week everywhere guy, and 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:38.040 people people get upset, and I'm like, you know, quiet, quiet, yeah, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:42.640 I mean, listen, a trained seal here with a beach 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.359 ball and I'm just bouncing it up and down? Is 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:50.719 that what I am? How dare you? How dare you? All? Right? 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:55.760 Moving on from the time stamp madis. Actually, before I 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:57.159 move on, one of the thought I had to I 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.040 wanted to add a post post note on the time 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:07.480 stamp madness. Uh, something that radio people do, that news 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:13.680 radio people do that becomes very important. When something either 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.640 really good happens or really bad happens, it does make 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:23.679 it more dramatic. For example, one of the worst days 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:31.600 in my life September eleven, nine eleven, and I recall 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.520 that day, and if you were alive then and you 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.679 were old enough to remember, you also remember nine eleven. 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.920 I mean, that's a historic person, you know, historic event 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.359 in people's lives. But I remember listening to radio and 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.120 the Emergency Broadcast System came on, and I thought, wow. 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.159 I always thought I've been radio a long time at 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.680 that point, already in two thousand one, I actually ain't 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.920 been in for seven years or something like that. But 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.040 I I was like, this is always no, they don't 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.200 actually use the emergency broadcast system. That's just some kind 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.639 of government thing that they're not ever going to actually 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.639 use because they've never activated it in my lifetime. And 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.920 sure enough, this is the emergency broadcast system. This is 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.479 not a test, this is not a test, and they 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.879 went through their whole thing, and and they but that 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.720 and then going back in the documentary. Some of the 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.960 documentaries that have been made about nine eleven, they used 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:31.720 local New York news radio and they would say it's 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:39.560 you know, seven on September eleven in New York, and 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.640 then they give the weather and they talked about the headlines. 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:49.000 And that time stamp became a big part of many 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.960 of the documentaries telling the story of September eleven because 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.400 they took the radio broadcast count obviously you know where 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.920 this is going, and to build up the drama of 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:02.960 how the world changed when we found out about the hijacking, 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.280 the plane that hit the World Trade Center tower, the 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.440 first tower, and then the second plane, but the time 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.920 stamp before it. There was a time stamp after the 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.960 first planet hit, and then another one after or you know, 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.960 in between, and then uh one after and that became 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.600 a big part of telling that story. And it was 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:25.280 giving a time stamp, which you actually do in radio, 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.199 which has often been a courtesy right now, there there 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.639 is a little inside radio stuff that it used to 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:38.480 be uh the diary format in terrestrial radio, where you 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:42.480 would have to fill out a diary and physically right 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:49.080 down the time that you were listing, like pen paper, 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.560 the whole thing. You'd have to log that you were 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.000 listening to a station. I think I think they don't 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:56.920 do that anymore. I believe it's on the internet. I 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.680 don't know. I don't think I'm supposed to know how 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.159 they keep track of radio ratings. We have We have 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:07.399 many more ways to track audiences now than we did 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.600 in the early days with my career because we have internet. 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.439 We I'm doing a podcast now, we know exactly how 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:18.520 many people listen to this podcast. We can tell advertisers 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:22.520 X number of people listen to the podcast. The cool 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:26.080 thing about being on the radio show during the week, 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:31.399 you know, as a as a radio geek, one of 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.040 the one of the things is that we not only 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.960 have the live audience, the overnight worker that people working 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:42.800 in factories, driving trucks, making food in kitchens or just 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.560 dealing with insomnia, but then we have people that listen 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.520 only to the podcast. So it's like double dipping, which 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:52.680 is kind of cool, right. It's like, you know, some 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.840 nights on the overnight there's not as many people listening. 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.520 Might be a might be a holiday, which I think 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.040 more people listen on the holiday is there kind of 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.280 bummed out by themselves or whatever. But there are nights 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.800 is a little slow, and we know when we're doing 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.680 the show that, yeah, you know, the live audience it 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.200 might not be really clicking, but the podcast they're there. 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.080 They'll be there in the podcast. So that's that's kind 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.359 of cool. But but that's one of the timestamp thing 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:22.080 in radio. I remember I had a program director when 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:25.200 I first got into the business who's like, every time 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:29.200 you open up the microphone, you give the name of 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:33.359 the station and the time you're listening to Extra Sports 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:38.080 six ninety it is four fifteen in the afternoon, you know. 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.200 So that's what we're supposed to say. Alright, So under 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:45.359 the covers, no more, Under the covers, no more. Uh, 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.320 this is a tribute, if you will. We don't know 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.760 when to do tributes. But I read a story the 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.920 other day and I guess this guy radio legend, his 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:59.879 final broadcast as a regular employee was on Friday night. 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:05.600 So last night Steve Summers Steve Summers his final night 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.119 hosting at w FAN. Now you if you're not a 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.960