1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: rich pill poppers in the penthouse to clearinghouse of hot takes, 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. Welcome in 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the beginning of another edition of The Fifth Hour with 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Ben Maller Saturday, Saturday Saturday. Because four hours a night 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: or not enough, We do this eight days a week. 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: No need for the applause. But we are here eight 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: days a week to provide you with marginal audio content. 13 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: As you know, we do the radio show five nights 14 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: a week on the overnight and on demand. Absolutely so 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: for those of you that say there is too much Mallard, 16 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: please never enough, never enough. So on this Saturday edition 17 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: of The Fifth Hour, we we have breaking news, actually 18 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: breaking news, the winds of change, a Fifth Hour with 19 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: Ben mallor exclusive. You will not hear this content anywhere else. 20 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: We will give you that coming up here in a bit. 21 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Also time snamp Madness under the covers No More and 22 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: the Big Oh and whatever else we have time to 23 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: get to. But let's begin with the winds of change. 24 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: And they have affected our radio program. Uh, they have. 25 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: And if you've listened to this show over the last 26 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: probably month or two, you have heard a lot of 27 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: me and not that much of the person that I've 28 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: been doing the podcast with and uh and and for 29 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: the past couple of months, it's kind of been like that, 30 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: less and less of West of the four oh five 31 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: David A. Gascon. But that was not by design. Uh, 32 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: that was not by design. When this podcast started, it 33 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: was a collaboration. We were both gonna be be available 34 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: as much as we could. We make it a priority. Unfortunately, 35 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: because you know, some work assignments, which is really good 36 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: news for for David. He's gotten a lot of play 37 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: by play gigs. He's taken other side work, acting jobs, 38 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: and you name it. And as a result of his 39 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: other assignments, he has been unable to provide his time 40 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: for this podcast on a regular basis. And he made 41 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: the decision earlier this week that that's all he don't 42 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: he don't and so no More, Uh, David Gascon on 43 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: the fifth hour and Uh. Yes, I'm I'm bummed out. 44 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: I was hoping we could work it out and David 45 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: could be part of the podcast going forward. I think 46 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: this thing is gonna be even bigger than it is 47 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: right now. Uh and I truly believe that because of 48 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: the the audience that has continued to go up. And 49 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: we as you know, you complain about the commercials on 50 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: the podcast, but that's a good problem to have, right 51 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: The problem is when there are no commercials, right, that's yeah, 52 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: that's that's when things are not going well. That's that's 53 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: when you haven't done your job. When there are a 54 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: lot of commercials, then you're winning. Yeah, stripe up the fans. 55 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. Uh. So the podcast is doing 56 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: very well and uh and and we I'm really happy 57 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: for David because he wants to play by play and 58 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: he's not it's not really a podcast guy per se. 59 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: And uh and he you know, he was unhappy with 60 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: some things, and we don't need to get into all 61 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: that here, but I am happy for him. I hope 62 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: he becomes the play by play guy for a college 63 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: or major college or an NFL team or NBA team. 64 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: Someone should hire David Gascon as a play by play guy, 65 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that he gets a big network job somewhere. 66 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: As for the fifth hour going forward, is it going 67 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: to be just a solo act, just me bloviating into 68 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: a open microphone and sounding like a clown. Uh, well, 69 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: there will be a lot of me going forward. But 70 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: I have talked with management as a result of the 71 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: events of the last week, and I am very excited 72 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: to find out who is going to fill the number 73 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: two chair on this podcast. I have already had several 74 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: conversations with the big boss at the company. That's how 75 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: important this podcast is. That management is like, all right, 76 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: we gotta figure this out because they've got we've got 77 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: good advertisers here, and they don't want to They don't 78 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: want to have this thing up. They want this thing 79 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: to get even bigger and better than it has been. 80 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: So if you want to suggest someone who should be 81 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: in the number two chair, who you think would be 82 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: a great a sidekick someone writing shotgun with me, you 83 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: can do that. I will tell you that the wheels 84 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: are in motion. And we've already had conversations, as I said, 85 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: myself and management, and we have had a couple of 86 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: names that are at the very top of the list. People. 87 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Some of them you would recognize other than other names, Uh, 88 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: probably not so much. Uh. And these are people that 89 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: I know in radio, people that you may know. Some 90 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: have worked on the show in the past, some have not, 91 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: some I've never worked with. And it's it's really a 92 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: matter of the schedules lining up. Because of the overnight show, 93 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: there's only certain windows that are available for me to 94 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: put the podcast together, and as a result of that, 95 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: I have a pretty unusual, pretty unusual schedule, and so 96 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: we have to find someone that can accommodate that schedule, 97 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: and we'll see if that person is out there. Hopefully 98 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: it's one of the candidates that have already been mentioned. 99 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I can't name them here. I've been told by management 100 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: not to do that. But we think of it like 101 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: a Mallard fifth hour draft, right, and the fifth hour 102 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: is on the clock, and the pick is in and 103 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: the pick we don't have to pick. We don't We 104 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: do not yet have the pick. But again, I have 105 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: spoken to a couple of people that are interested in 106 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: the job, and we will find out going forward. But 107 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: I am looking forward to, uh to having uh, you know, 108 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: someone here who's gonna be able to be part of 109 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: it and bounce things off. Uh. And I think it'll 110 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: be better that way, to have someone regularly here, and 111 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: we'll get bigger and better guests and all that stuff. 112 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: I I do hope you enjoyed one of the more 113 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: wild hours that I have had doing conversation spoken word radio. 114 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: It reverberated around the podcast world. John Ziegler who joined 115 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: us on the Friday podcast. And I imagine my inbox 116 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: is full right now. I've not checked with emails. I 117 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: can't believe you'll put that guy on. I thought he 118 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: was great. I thought he was interesting, and to me, 119 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: the whole point of doing a podcast like this is 120 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: to let interesting voices speak. And I was a fan 121 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: John when he did radio at CALFI in l A 122 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: back in the day. I do follow him on Twitter. 123 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: He's a firebrand. Uh. He's a lightning rod guy, very enthusiastic, 124 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: can talk and talk and talk. I wasn't even much 125 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: on the podcast on Friday. It was. I asked a 126 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: few questions and then I I got out of the 127 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: way and I said, all right, let's get into it now. 128 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: I know some of you are gonna be upset because 129 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: political bullshit Yeah, there was some of that that was 130 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: part of the podcast. But everything is political now and 131 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: so just kind of get over It's okay, it's not 132 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: that big a deal. Life will go on. Life will 133 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: going But I thought John was wonderful, and you should 134 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: check that out. You know, you've got to be open 135 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: minded about things and say what you want about John 136 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: and in his personality, and some don't like it. I 137 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: think he's as I said, I think he's very good. 138 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: But the thing about John is he has spent the 139 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,119 Speaker 1: better part of a decade as an investigative journalist tracking 140 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: down just about everyone who's still alive tied to the 141 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: penn State story. So he has not cut any corners. 142 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: He is. He mentioned in the podcast, he's traveled back 143 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: to State College, Pennsylvania, back to the prison in Pennsylvania 144 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: where Jerry Sandusky is in jail. He's talked to him, 145 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: he's talked to relatives, he's talked to people on all 146 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: sides of the spectrum, and he determined, And we can 147 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: go back and hear the Friday podcast if you want, 148 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: but he mentioned that he he determined, with a thorough investigation, 149 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: the outcome that he did not expect, even though he 150 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: was open minded going into it, but that he determined 151 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: he thinks the Penn State story is a fraudulent story, 152 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, it didn't happen. I don't know. I mean, 153 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: that's what he said, and for many it's hard to believe. 154 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: And uh I I have listened to some of the 155 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: podcasts that John's done. He makes a very compelling argument. 156 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: And as I told him in the podcast, is that 157 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: if if this is all accurate, all the evidence that 158 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: you have, you've pretty much laid out the roadmap for 159 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: a an appeal, and what is a compelling case for 160 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: a victory in an appeal? But it hasn't happened. And 161 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: John mentioned there would be some documentaries that are that 162 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: have been in the works about Joe Paterno about Penn State, 163 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: So we'll see if anything comes to that. But I 164 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: do recommend the The Friday podcast if you did not 165 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: hear our conversation with John Ziegler. Now moving on the 166 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: time stamp madness, the time stamp manage, and this is 167 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna geek out a little bit on broadcasting. 168 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: And as you may or may not know, one of 169 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: the cool jobs that I had for very for a 170 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: very brief time. Couple of years, I did Dodger pregame 171 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: and postgame programming. Um, I was a phil guy for 172 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: part of a year. I did uh travel briefly with 173 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: the Dodgers, very briefly. I went on some road trips 174 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: with the team, and I got to know Vince Scully 175 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. Vince and I cons all time great 176 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: right is the the o G And Vinn was very 177 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: nice to me. And just the fact that he knew 178 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: my name uh as as a as a kid growing 179 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: up listening to Vince Scully and watching him on TV, 180 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this guy, man, this guy knows 181 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: me walking the footsteps of legends and Vinn. It's been 182 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: retired and I haven't seen uh Mr Scully in many years. 183 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: And I did see on his Twitter account. By the way, Vin, 184 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: I think it's an open secret, not on Twitter, but 185 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: there is someone that works for the Dodgers that provides 186 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: content quasi from Vince Scully and so on the the 187 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: Vince Scully Twitter account, Vinn shared an interview that he did. 188 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: I believe it's for a documentary and I wanted to 189 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: play the clip for you because it was is great 190 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: and I love stuff like this. I love that so 191 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: much of life is experimentation and just throwing spaghetti against 192 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: the wall, and every once in a while, every once 193 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: in a while, a bunch of that spaghetti sticks. And 194 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: even the all time greats like Vince Scully, uh, they 195 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: have this happened. So to set this up, Vin is 196 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: doing an interview about sports commentary. It's called The Commentators, 197 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: a hundred years of sports commentary and the the classic 198 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Vince Skully no hitter call and the Sandy Kofax perfect game, 199 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: which is an all time great call. If you're a 200 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: fan of radio play by play, you know exactly what 201 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, even if you're a young punk and 202 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, like Sandy Kofax is like a dinosaur to you, 203 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: you know that call, And so I wanted to play this. 204 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: This is from the again the Vin Scully Twitter account. 205 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: Do Vince Scully and this has been and will react 206 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: to it. This has been telling a story about what 207 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: became his signature for no hitters and perfect games. Here's 208 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: the greatest play by play man in baseball history, the 209 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: Great Vince Scully. In his own words, you know when 210 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: you do play by play every day, but just about 211 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: sixty seven years. Once in a while, you get lucky 212 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: when I say lucky. Let me explain. Whenever the Dodgers 213 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: had a picture pitching a no hitter, or the opposing 214 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: picture was pitching a no hitter, we would always tape 215 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: the ninth inning and we would then give that picture 216 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: with whatever team. As far as a record of the 217 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: night or day that he pitched the no hitter takes 218 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: Andy Kofax. Cofax had pitched three no hitters, and in 219 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: the course of each of the three, I always made 220 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: sure that I got the a of the no hitter, 221 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: so that when Sandy would be walking out to the man, 222 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: I would say, and so on this July Sandy co 223 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: Fax heading for the man to try and pick up 224 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: X number of victories and a no hitter against so 225 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: and so. Well the night it is perfect game. In 226 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: my mind was the fact, what else can I put 227 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: on the tape so that thirty years from now, when 228 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: he's playing it and reliving the moment, he'll have the date. 229 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's stop right there. So Vince Scully actually 230 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: created the cameo. He gave Sandy ko Fax a cameo 231 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: in any picture that threw a no hitter for the 232 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: Dodgers or against the Dodgers. So he just mentioned the date, 233 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: the origin of the date, and now he mentioned he 234 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: wanted to add something different. And this is where it 235 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: gets even more interesting. The great Vince Skule, He continues, 236 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: go ahead, Mr Scully, and I thought, I know, I'll 237 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: put the time on it down. The time is useless 238 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: as far as baseball is concerned. It wasn't in the 239 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: old days, but it is now. So I did the game, 240 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: and I would start calling off the time, only thinking 241 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: of Sandy Kofax and the kids listening about his perfect game. 242 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: And so it was at nine he does this, at 243 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: he does that, and he pitches the perfect game for 244 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: the next few days. The only thing I heard about 245 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: was how dramatic it was to have the time included 246 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: on the game. Did I take about couldn't do it. 247 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: I just happened to look out. Be sure to catch 248 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two 249 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and 250 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app. All right, so that's the 251 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: sound bite from the great Vin School. A couple of thoughts. 252 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: First of all, self deprecating, right, he just looked out 253 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: but the story that Ben told is something that I've 254 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: heard a lot in my life. I think it's a 255 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: good lesson that just experimentation getting positive feedback. We're all 256 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: wired the same way as human beings. We love positive feedback. 257 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: It keeps us going, right, was like, all right, you 258 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: got some good feedback, you gotta you got something kind 259 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: of working here, and let's do it. And you know 260 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: the idea that the whole point of ven giving the 261 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: date and giving the time was just a personal audio 262 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: cassette to hand to Sandy Kofax or Don Drysdale or 263 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Bob Gibson or whoever was the great picture back in 264 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: those old days. And uh, I have effort start. We 265 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: had on this podcast, you know, a couple of months back, 266 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: we had Ted Sobel's uh in l A sports media 267 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: guy icon in l A Media for years, Ted Sobel, 268 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: and he's told stories. He wrote a book about broadcasting 269 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: and his experiences in l A and Brushing with Greatness 270 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: or something along the lines of that. But Ted and 271 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: and some other people would tell stories about going to 272 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: dodge a stadium and you didn't even need to bring 273 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: a radio because so many people had radios. That the 274 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: soundtrack from the crowd was Vince Scully doing the play 275 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: by play like the players on the field. Could hear 276 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: Vin doing the play by play? He might as well 277 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: have been on the public address system at Chavez Ravine. 278 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: It was that that crazy. I guess that was the 279 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: days before headphones and uh and whatnot. But I really secondly, 280 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: I relate to this a little bit. One of the 281 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: catchphrases that I fell into was in the air everywhere 282 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: right kind of hockey, kind of cornball, and I just 283 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: shouted it out one time when I first started Fox 284 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: was fright. I didn't say that. I didn't really have 285 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: much of anything. And one night, it was a Saturday night. 286 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: If I remember as I remember it, if I'm remembering 287 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: it accurately, and remember we as as we get older, 288 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: our memory is a version of the truth, but not 289 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: likely the whole truth, only part of the truth. But 290 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: as I remember the story as I understand it, I drove, 291 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: I was driving it. It was a Saturday night, overnight, 292 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: and in those days it was like a six hour show, 293 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: five hours live, one hour repeated, and occasionally we would 294 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: actually do all six hours live. So it was a 295 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: long road in the overnight, long time and so I 296 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: came in there and I just started with my usual 297 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: bull crab and I began there. I was like, we 298 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: are in the air everywhere, and just like Vince Gully, 299 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: not quite as much positive feedback, but I got a 300 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: lot of positive feedback. People like, that's a good line, 301 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: that's catchy. I like that, you should say that more. 302 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: And thus here we are, many years later, and just 303 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: about every hour of talk radio that I have done 304 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: for probably the last ten years, I think it actually 305 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: goes longer than that. I'm very bad at dates, but 306 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: it goes longer than that. And sure enough, now if 307 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: I begin an hour and I don't say in the 308 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: air everywhere, someone inevitably will say, why didn't you say that? Well, 309 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: it's up with that. How come you didn't say in 310 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: the air everywhere? That's not right. You're supposed to say that. 311 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: You're the in the air every week everywhere guy, and 312 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: people people get upset, and I'm like, you know, quiet, quiet, yeah, 313 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, a trained seal here with a beach 314 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: ball and I'm just bouncing it up and down? Is 315 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: that what I am? How dare you? How dare you? All? Right? 316 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: Moving on from the time stamp madis. Actually, before I 317 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: move on, one of the thought I had to I 318 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: wanted to add a post post note on the time 319 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: stamp madness. Uh, something that radio people do, that news 320 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: radio people do that becomes very important. When something either 321 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: really good happens or really bad happens, it does make 322 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: it more dramatic. For example, one of the worst days 323 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: in my life September eleven, nine eleven, and I recall 324 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: that day, and if you were alive then and you 325 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: were old enough to remember, you also remember nine eleven. 326 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a historic person, you know, historic event 327 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: in people's lives. But I remember listening to radio and 328 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: the Emergency Broadcast System came on, and I thought, wow. 329 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: I always thought I've been radio a long time at 330 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: that point, already in two thousand one, I actually ain't 331 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: been in for seven years or something like that. But 332 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: I I was like, this is always no, they don't 333 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: actually use the emergency broadcast system. That's just some kind 334 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: of government thing that they're not ever going to actually 335 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: use because they've never activated it in my lifetime. And 336 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: sure enough, this is the emergency broadcast system. This is 337 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: not a test, this is not a test, and they 338 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: went through their whole thing, and and they but that 339 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: and then going back in the documentary. Some of the 340 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: documentaries that have been made about nine eleven, they used 341 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: local New York news radio and they would say it's 342 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, seven on September eleven in New York, and 343 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: then they give the weather and they talked about the headlines. 344 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: And that time stamp became a big part of many 345 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: of the documentaries telling the story of September eleven because 346 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: they took the radio broadcast count obviously you know where 347 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: this is going, and to build up the drama of 348 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: how the world changed when we found out about the hijacking, 349 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: the plane that hit the World Trade Center tower, the 350 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: first tower, and then the second plane, but the time 351 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: stamp before it. There was a time stamp after the 352 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: first planet hit, and then another one after or you know, 353 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: in between, and then uh one after and that became 354 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: a big part of telling that story. And it was 355 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: giving a time stamp, which you actually do in radio, 356 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: which has often been a courtesy right now, there there 357 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: is a little inside radio stuff that it used to 358 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: be uh the diary format in terrestrial radio, where you 359 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: would have to fill out a diary and physically right 360 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: down the time that you were listing, like pen paper, 361 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing. You'd have to log that you were 362 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: listening to a station. I think I think they don't 363 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: do that anymore. I believe it's on the internet. I 364 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think I'm supposed to know how 365 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: they keep track of radio ratings. We have We have 366 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: many more ways to track audiences now than we did 367 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: in the early days with my career because we have internet. 368 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: We I'm doing a podcast now, we know exactly how 369 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: many people listen to this podcast. We can tell advertisers 370 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: X number of people listen to the podcast. The cool 371 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: thing about being on the radio show during the week, 372 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: you know, as a as a radio geek, one of 373 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: the one of the things is that we not only 374 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: have the live audience, the overnight worker that people working 375 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: in factories, driving trucks, making food in kitchens or just 376 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: dealing with insomnia, but then we have people that listen 377 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: only to the podcast. So it's like double dipping, which 378 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: is kind of cool, right. It's like, you know, some 379 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: nights on the overnight there's not as many people listening. 380 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Might be a might be a holiday, which I think 381 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: more people listen on the holiday is there kind of 382 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: bummed out by themselves or whatever. But there are nights 383 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: is a little slow, and we know when we're doing 384 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: the show that, yeah, you know, the live audience it 385 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: might not be really clicking, but the podcast they're there. 386 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: They'll be there in the podcast. So that's that's kind 387 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: of cool. But but that's one of the timestamp thing 388 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: in radio. I remember I had a program director when 389 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: I first got into the business who's like, every time 390 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: you open up the microphone, you give the name of 391 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: the station and the time you're listening to Extra Sports 392 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: six ninety it is four fifteen in the afternoon, you know. 393 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: So that's what we're supposed to say. Alright, So under 394 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: the covers, no more, Under the covers, no more. Uh, 395 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: this is a tribute, if you will. We don't know 396 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: when to do tributes. But I read a story the 397 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: other day and I guess this guy radio legend, his 398 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: final broadcast as a regular employee was on Friday night. 399 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: So last night Steve Summers Steve Summers his final night 400 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: hosting at w FAN. Now you if you're not a 401 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: radio geek or a big radio fan, you might not 402 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: know that, but I feel like we have a fair 403 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: amount of people that like this, maybe you who love 404 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: radio and appreciate the ancient art of spokes spoken word broadcasting. 405 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: And I I bring this up because Steve Summers was 406 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: an original. He was hired at w f A N 407 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: in New York City in its inception in nineteen seven 408 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: I and he has worked there ever since then. So 409 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: he is done skis now and I wanted to take 410 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes to celebrate the career of Steve 411 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: Summers thirty four years. Thirty four years mostly as a 412 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: night guy. Most he has an overnight guy, and his 413 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: stick was the Schmooze. He was known as the Schmooze 414 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: and he had his own catch phrases that he would 415 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: he would say at the beginning of every hour. That 416 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: was his his touch doing radio and made him distinctive, 417 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: made him stand out right talked about schmoozing. He called 418 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: him the Schmooze and he would spell out sports and 419 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: that was that was his stuff. And he had nicknames 420 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: for all the New York teams in the Tri state 421 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: area and all that. So here's how I relate to 422 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: Steve Somers. Years ago in the late nineties, I was 423 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: doing local radio in l A. And in fact, I 424 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: remember the year. It was the reason I remember that 425 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: I'm always positive as night. It was either night now 426 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: now I'm not now, I'm second guest. He was either 427 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: ninety eight or ninety nine, but I think it was 428 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: the Dodgers had traded Mike Piazza. So I remember that 429 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: trade happened in if I remember correctly, it had happened 430 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: pretty early in the baseball season, and Mike Piazza was 431 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: traded to the Marlins, and he was a big star. 432 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: Is the biggest star of the Dodgers had had since 433 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: Sandy Kolfax. The guy was an icon in l A. 434 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: And in those years that the Lakers were terrible and 435 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers ruled the roost in l A sports. 436 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: And so we were on the local l A show 437 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: and Piazza got traded to the Marlins. He spent a 438 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: week or something like that in Miami, and then he 439 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: got repackaged to the Mets. And so Piazza was about 440 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: to play the Mets. I think I'm pretty sure it 441 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: was ninety eight, and so after the trade, it was 442 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna his first games against the Dodgers. So I hopped 443 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: he hopped and scdadle off to New York. What happened 444 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: to my brother happened to be, you know, living there, 445 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: had been there a few years at that point, so 446 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'll stay with my brother 447 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: and do the night show. Back to l A. And 448 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: I need a studio. So they hooked us up at 449 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: w F A N which was at the Queen's Story 450 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: of Movie Studio, TV and Movie Studio in queens In 451 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: and I did it from the w FAN Studio in 452 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: the back their their production studio, and Steve Somers had 453 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: been working at that station at He did the night 454 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: show when I came in, and then Joe Boningo was 455 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: was also doing some stuff he had he had been 456 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: there so so away I ran into Steve Somers. I 457 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: didn't really talk much, but I remember him at that time. 458 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: You know, he was beloved and fellow. You know New 459 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: York night owls there the insomniac crowd, we're we're big 460 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: fans of the Schmooz. It is relatable ties into the 461 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: story we told about Vin Scully and Vin mentioning. The 462 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: reason that whole time stamp thing pig came a thing 463 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: was as a result of good feedback. Right. Originally it 464 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: was just kind of a cameo and he was like 465 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: doing a shout out, you know, co Fax or Drysdale 466 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: or whoever throws the no header or the perfect game 467 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. And then it just became what he was 468 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 1: known for. Give the time and you got tremendous feedback. 469 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: So Steve Summers said the same thing. I saw an 470 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 1: interview that he did, and he had said that one 471 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: night on w f An. He just started saying that 472 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: he was schmoozing, which is a good Yiddish term, the schmooze, 473 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: and that became his thing. He became known as the schmooze. 474 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: That became his stick a law for the rest of 475 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: his time at w fans. So good luck to Steve Summers. 476 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: How about that seventy four years old? And I was wondering, 477 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: that's a that's a pretty long way way. I'm getting 478 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: up there in age now. I feel I don't feel it, 479 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: but people tell me, oh, man, you're you're a dreaded 480 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: middle age guy. And I'm like, yeah, I guess i am. 481 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: How the hell did that happen? But then I'm thinking, 482 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: how many more years am I gonna do this? And 483 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: will I even have a choice. Will I have the 484 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: carpet pulled out from underneath me, or will I have 485 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity to pick my end date? In radio, it's 486 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: the great mystery, right, the great mystery of life. As 487 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said, it's a beautiful mystery. But Steve Summers 488 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: is seventy four years old and has continued to work 489 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: mostly nights, mostly overnights, weekends and all that, and he's 490 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: continued in the business into his mid seventies. What a 491 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: tremendous run in radio. And without w f a N succeeding, 492 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: there's likely no Fox Sports Radio. There's none of that. 493 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: Like f a N. When it started, that was the 494 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: guinea pig, and it turned out the guinea pig worked. 495 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: It went really well, uh and people loved it, and 496 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: it built up an audience in w f AN is 497 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: at different points than the number one radio station in 498 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: New York City in all formats, and it's been consistently 499 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: a top ten station. But in the coveted demographic that 500 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: advertisers really want, the fifty four thirty four whatever it 501 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: might be, whatever picked any demographic you want. They they 502 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: do very well with dudes. But as I have said 503 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: on the radio show The Terrestrial Radio Show many times, 504 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: the twenty four hour sports radio format began because of gambling, 505 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: because of illegal gambling. You know the stories about the 506 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: NFL game with gamblers, and you know the original NFL 507 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: owners were involved in horse racing in different gamblings, some 508 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: of it legal, some of it illegal. NASCAR started with 509 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: illegal activity. Well, twenty four hour sports radio. The premise 510 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: of it was you had to wait to get scores 511 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: the following morning, or you could turn on a news 512 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: station and get scores, but you didn't get a lot 513 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: of information, and they will only give you a select 514 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: number of scores at fifteen and forty five past the 515 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: hour on a seven news radio format. Be sure to 516 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: catch live editions of the Ben Meller Show week days 517 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific, And so 518 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: they wouldn't you wouldn't get the context that you needed 519 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: if you were a gambler. So if you had a 520 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: neighborhood bookie and and you wanted to put a bet down, 521 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: you would have to wait to get the score. And 522 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: the big problems you've lived on the East Coast was 523 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: the West Coast games would make the newspaper. The paper 524 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: would go to bed and they would say, you know, Mets, Mets, Dodgers, 525 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: Mets Giants, Mets Padres would be in progress in the 526 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: seventh innings, so you might have to wait a couple 527 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: of days to find out if you want your bet 528 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: or not. And there were these things called score phones 529 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: that you could call up and they would just they 530 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: would give you the scores. Of course, they would give 531 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: you like seven or eight minutes of commercials. And by 532 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: the way, the scores are four, three, six, five and 533 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: three to two, and those are your baseball scores from 534 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: the West Coast, and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. 535 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: And oftentimes when you call those things, they would then 536 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: call you back, auto'dal you back and harass you as 537 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: I remember, as I remember, But so w f AN 538 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: worked and as a result that led to other stations. 539 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: The first twenty four hour sports station on the West 540 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: Coast was the mighty six nineties in sun Diego, which 541 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: was actually in bo Ha, California and booming from Baja 542 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: to the Canadian Rockies, and so f AN started on 543 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: the East coast, and Extra Sports six nineties started I 544 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: think in eighty nine or ninety. It was within a 545 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: couple of years. Within a couple of years, Extra Sports 546 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: six nineties started and it did well, and then we 547 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: were off to the races, and slowly and surely there 548 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: are hundreds and hundreds of stations that carry the sports 549 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: radio format. Tony Bruno launched ESPN Radio, which became the 550 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: first twenty four hour outlet, and there were some other 551 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: ones along the way. There was Sports Fan Radio Network, 552 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: there was one on one Sports out of Chicago, big 553 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: twenty four hour network. Uh, there's a guy, Ron Barr 554 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: that did a syndicated overnight show talking sports. And then 555 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: eventually Fox Sports Radio started in the early two thousands 556 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: with Tony Bruno, the man who starts all the big 557 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: sports networks, the o G who we've had Tony on 558 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: the podcast, the great Tony Bruno. And so that's a 559 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: little sports radio one on one. I not quickly, We 560 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time, but as far as 561 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: the Big Oh is concerned, and this is the life 562 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: of Maller, the life of Maller. So after several weeks, 563 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: after several weeks, I finally finally visited the Big Oh. Uh. 564 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: Now not not not that not not that big oh, 565 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: the big Oh. I had my trip to the optometrist. Now, 566 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: as you may or may not remember from a previous 567 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: episode of the Fifth Hour, I was talking about a story. 568 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: I was in studio after Dodger playoff game. So I 569 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: was back in the mother Ship and I took a 570 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: photo with Eddie and while taking the photo, I always 571 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,479 Speaker 1: take my glasses off when I take a photo because 572 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: I'm self conscious. I don't like the way I look 573 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: in glasses. So I took the photo off. I took 574 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: the glasses off, I took the photo. There you are 575 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: talked that way up. So I took the glasses off 576 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: to take the photo. I placed the glasses in my pocket. Uh. 577 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: And then Roberto was like, hey, you gotta get back 578 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: and start talking. So in the rush, in my haste 579 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: to get back and start talking on the on the show, 580 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: I sat down and I didn't even realize at the time. 581 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, I need my glasses. 582 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting down, I'm talking talk talk talk, talk talk. 583 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: It was before the top of the hour, and I 584 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: reached down to get my glasses and abracadabra, hocus pocus, 585 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: much to my dismay. Much to my dismay, my glasses. 586 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: I grabbed the glasses, I pulled them out, and I said, 587 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: wait a minute, my glasses seem a little soft, you know, 588 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: a little lighter, a little lighter. Here, what is the 589 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: us all about? And uh I looked down and there 590 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: it is a half half of my glasses. And of 591 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: course I start, I start, I'm I'm just I'm you know, 592 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: I turned the mic, I'm cursing up a storm and 593 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and uh, Roberto and the guys they're 594 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: doing the old Nelson from the Simpsons, and everyone's like, 595 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, how does that happen? These are expensive glasses. 596 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: And so anyway, as a result, I needed a new 597 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: pair of bifocals I had I had in the past, 598 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: I had in the past kept a backup pair, which 599 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: I'm glad I did, and so obviously I used those. 600 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: And but from my old pair of glasses, it was 601 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: turned out the lots the parties over. So I finally 602 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: had my first appointment new eye doctor. I did not 603 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: go to Costco. They were booked up. Plus my wife. 604 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: I said, no, no, you gotta go like the traditional 605 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: eye doctor. I said, who cares all it's the same 606 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: thing they when they went to the same optometry school. 607 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: But anyway, she wanted to go to the local eye doctor. Uh. 608 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: So we finally got an appointment with the new doc. 609 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: Full battery of eye test my eyes, all the usual stuff, 610 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: all the hoops you have to jump through to get 611 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: new glasses. And I'm happy to report I passed my exam. 612 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: My hearing is all left up, but my vision, they 613 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: told me, are aging. My eyes are aging at a 614 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: normal rate. I am in the proper percentile for someone 615 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,959 Speaker 1: my age. I don't know if that's good or bad. 616 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's good or bad. But I 617 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: knew when I was a kid, based on common sense, 618 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna need glasses because my mom and my papa, 619 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: my mom and dad both wear war glasses, and so 620 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: I knew the odds, based on the genetic makeup and 621 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: me being a direct result of half of them, that 622 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: I would need glasses. Now spoiler alert, here's here's where 623 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: it gets even more interesting. The big Oh. So I 624 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: go to the Thomas Stress to get the glasses, and 625 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: then I get the exam to give me the prescription, 626 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: and the spoiler alert, I go to check out the glasses. 627 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: We find a pair of glasses that I allow my 628 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: wife to pick out. And the reason I do that, 629 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: and the reason I allow my wife to pick out 630 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: the glasses is because A I don't really care, and 631 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: be I can't see myself. I don't have eyes looking 632 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: at me. And no matter what pair of glasses you pick, 633 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, boy, look at that four eyes nerd. 634 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: What a poindexter. So I don't even worry about it. 635 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I I know who I am. Uh, 636 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: And there's no there's no need to get all sappy 637 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: about it and all that stuff. No, I mean, listen. 638 00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: So anyway, anyway that we go to pick out the glasses, 639 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: I find a pair that my wife likes, I approve, 640 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: So we give the glasses to the person behind the counter. 641 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: They then say, well, unfortunately, your dome is so big. 642 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: How big is it that the glasses will not fit? 643 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: Your head is too big? You have a melon head. 644 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: And this is what's known as big skull problems. So 645 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: now I am on the prowl for some spectacles that 646 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: I will will find it will fit my large cranium. 647 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: I have considered going online. I found a couple of websites. 648 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: If you have a suggestion, you have helped me out tremendously. 649 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: You helped me out. I had an out aunt problem 650 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: with the Malo Mansion. Listeners to this show, the Ben 651 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: Mallory Radio Show and the podcast have given me the 652 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: solution the Toro Aunt traps that I always use when 653 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: we have an aunt infestation, and you have helped me 654 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: now with the mosquitoes, I have used a couple of 655 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: different options that fans of the show have recommended, and 656 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: I've had different levels of results with that. So now 657 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm asking if you have a big head and you 658 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: wear glasses. This is a very small percentage of those listening, 659 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to only talk to you right now. 660 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: Please please uh send a link if you have a 661 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: suggestion some place that's got a reasonable reasonable price, that 662 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: would be great, That would be absolutely wonderful. Anyway, I 663 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: have a wonderful rest of your Saturday. We will have 664 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: a mail bag, a wonderful, glorious mail bag on Sundays 665 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: Sunday Sunday, and don't forget cameo dot com if you 666 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: would like to have a personalized video message, cameo dot 667 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: com and you can check that out also on Twitter 668 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: at Ben Mallard, Instagram, Ben Maller on Fox, Ben Maller 669 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: on Fox, the Facebook page. A lot of content for 670 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: this podcast, in fact the mailbag. Some weeks we get 671 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: a lot of questions, some weeks we don't get that many. 672 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: And it's really dependent on your contributions whether the mailbag 673 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: continues week after week. But we usually get enough for 674 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: the mailbag, but we can always use more. We always 675 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: want new people to add content, get some new voices. 676 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: Heard Ben Maller show again on the show facebook page. 677 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: Have a great rest of your day. We will catch 678 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: you next time.