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Speaker 1: We had so much fun in Miami. We had curfew?

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Speaker 2: Is that not common?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 2: Is this heat culture that we don't know about it?

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Speaker 3: We arnt that curfew? We arn't that curfew.

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Speaker 2: Can you just paint the picture of a room that

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Speaker 2: you walked into where you saw Shaq and you this

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Speaker 2: is ridiculous?

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 4: We'm pig big big can tell me to win? I

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Speaker 4: did We're big, big, big singing a cat. I do

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Speaker 4: a big, big big co pell me to wear I

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Speaker 4: do a big, big, big singing a cat.

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Speaker 1: I do a big.

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Speaker 3: Who is the best bar for bar athletes in the

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Speaker 3: hip hop game? Who has chat shack ass balls?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: He could spin everything?

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Speaker 4: Has what I do with pee with money? Got so

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Speaker 4: much to do with me? I to do them to

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Speaker 4: that chat cheez make it. I can like tax beas

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Speaker 4: my sake, say, don't tack me. I take off no

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Speaker 4: caxie to you actually see three or four more of these, please.

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Speaker 1: Don't act me.

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Speaker 2: Go in check my rap sheet, flatten them.

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Speaker 4: What they clapped me from the scoreboard to the billboard.

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Speaker 2: From a factor phenomenal, phenomenal, Thank you do? I call

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Speaker 2: you shack now or DJ Diesel, which personality are you.

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Speaker 1: In well, I'm shocking now that was a DJ Diesel

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Speaker 2: What would you What is the difference.

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Speaker 1: The difference is it's like being on the court. I

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Speaker 1: do that because the the reaction from the fans is

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Speaker 1: the similar adrenaline rush of a playoff game. So like

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Speaker 1: I do clubs and now, but that's not really who

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Speaker 1: DJ des live. You need to come to one of

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Speaker 1: my festivals festival matter fact. For those who don't know

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Speaker 1: who DJ disl list, check this fort the.

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Speaker 3: Job comes to shot Tack.

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Speaker 2: A shock to the mustard.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: When you were bouncing with those white kids, that was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, I felt really good. You love For

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Speaker 2: everyone out there that doesn't know Shack loves a few

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Speaker 2: things about me, and one of them is my white

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Speaker 1: Yes I do.

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Speaker 2: It's one of your top I sound like a great white.

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Speaker 1: Guy me and you went viral a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: H that's you sing the lyrics to your song and

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Speaker 2: it looks like you're making it up then, even though

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Speaker 2: you're the one that sang them.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: This is our New Year's episode and uh we we

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Speaker 2: talked about this, but what has your New Year's resolutions?

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Speaker 2: Been in the past, and do you have any this year?

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Speaker 1: The ones in the past are just be able to

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Speaker 1: continue to work, take care of family, and stay out

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Speaker 1: of trouble. It's always been a big, big one for me,

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Speaker 1: stay out of trouble.

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Speaker 2: What would a New Year's resolution be for DJ Diesel.

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Speaker 1: Just to continue to move the crowd, continue to just

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Speaker 1: have fun. I lose money, DJ, do you really Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not in the top tiers yet, like some

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Speaker 1: top DJ that make a half a million show, I'm close,

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Speaker 1: but let's just say it's a show. I want to

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Speaker 1: do it. It's gonna be like thirty thousand people at

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Speaker 1: a festival. Their budget may only be fifty thousand, but

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Speaker 1: it's something I want to do when I rock the crowd.

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Speaker 1: I want to try out some new stuff cost me

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Speaker 1: sixty to get there.

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Speaker 2: I want to I want to put this out into

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Speaker 2: the universe. Twenty twenty four. Is there a venue or

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Speaker 2: a concert that, if you did, would feel big for you?

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Speaker 1: I would like to. I don't know the correct time

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Speaker 1: and ear what's the spear?

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Speaker 2: Oh the sphere?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to be the first dubstep DJ

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Speaker 1: to play in the sphere. A shack festival inside the Spear,

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Speaker 1: like that'd be big, like.

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Speaker 2: I've done or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: I've done a lot of Paloosa, I've done Lost Lines,

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Speaker 1: I've done all the big stuff. Like the little ones

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Speaker 1: are the ones that really go crazy wan like ten

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Speaker 1: But if I can headline something, I would love to

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Speaker 1: headline the Sphere.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening, Sphere Management Shack once to headline, and

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Speaker 2: we will blow it out.

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Speaker 1: Blow it out.

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Speaker 2: We'll do the big podcast there right beforehand.

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Speaker 1: We will.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a Shack festival, blow it out. My New

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Speaker 2: Year's resolution for the twentieth straight years, get abs.

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Speaker 1: Get abs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just one. I'm not gonna do the spray paint

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Speaker 2: ones that you did that time.

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Speaker 1: Oh did you just challenge me?

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Speaker 2: Ab off?

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Speaker 1: Ab Off?

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Speaker 2: When's your birthday?

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Speaker 1: March sixth?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll try.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a battle. No, it's a bad idea,

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Speaker 2: it's a battle. I'm down.

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Speaker 1: Let me help you, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Ready.

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Speaker 1: One, stop worrying about it. Two, eat what you want

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Speaker 1: for breakfast, like I look at everything like gas. That's

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Speaker 1: a feel you now. The second meal healthy salad, third meal, chicken,

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Speaker 1: a fish, fourth meal, maybe a sh If you can

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Speaker 1: do that, you'll start to see them.

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Speaker 2: See I worry that you compared that filling up a

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Speaker 1: So like the reason why I say what you want

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Speaker 1: when you start to get hungry again, don't put more

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Speaker 2: See. What I don't like Producer Shane is that he

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Speaker 2: challenged me to an ab off and then he told

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Speaker 2: He just told me to eat four meals and eat

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Speaker 2: whatever I want for breakfast. No, bro, I'm if we're battling, okay,

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Speaker 2: so I'll keep it serious. Okay, so if you want

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Speaker 2: like to eat what I want for breakfast and then second, third, fourth, fifth,

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Speaker 2: this weight. Okay, look great, Thank you, uh and now

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Speaker 2: we're going to welcome in you Donna's hassel. It is

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Speaker 2: time for another edition to the Big Podcast Shack, where

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Speaker 2: we always do it big, and I'm here with the

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Speaker 2: biggest fellow that's ever lived. Shaquille O'Neal aka DJ Diesel.

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Speaker 1: You know I didn't like you first.

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Speaker 2: Damn no, I didn't story.

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Speaker 1: But let me tell you why. I'm big on respect

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Speaker 1: and you are my respect. Not gonna put you in

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Speaker 1: the class with Ernie, but you're in the same fraternity.

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Speaker 1: Like you come. You don't funk around, you work no

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Speaker 1: no like like you know, like when you see somebody

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Speaker 1: on TV, like he thinks he cool. You are cool,

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Speaker 1: by the way, but when we start doing all work together,

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Speaker 1: how when I try to come in and clown around,

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Speaker 1: You're like, hey man, wait, Like that's that's big with me.

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Speaker 1: So when I was looking for somebody to be my partner,

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Speaker 1: not a host, be my partner, I thought of you.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to all my other partners, mich John Kinkaid,

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Speaker 1: Michelle love you guys.

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Speaker 2: I think I know the moment where you changed. By

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Speaker 2: the way, we have e Donna's has here. Who's going

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Speaker 2: into the Ring of Honor of Miami. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: you in a second. But this is big.

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Speaker 1: Hold on right, what does that mean? They better? They

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Speaker 1: better retire your damn jersey?

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Speaker 3: Did we get into that big? Don't no today? See yeah,

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Speaker 3: get today?

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: The moment though, that you looked at me different was

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Speaker 2: we had Aaron Gordon. We were doing an interview and

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Speaker 2: he was looking like maybe he had enjoyed himself that day.

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Speaker 2: And you said, man, when you dunk, you get so high,

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Speaker 2: and you looked at me and I was like okay,

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Speaker 2: and then I was like, man, you're gonna go smoke

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Speaker 2: the competition, and Shaq looked at me with this I

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Speaker 2: then on I felt like.

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Speaker 3: We were good. He's one of us. I found him,

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Speaker 3: I liked. I liked this conversation.

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Speaker 1: So you know how I always shot my teammates are right.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's the way this and that. He's the

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Speaker 1: reason I got number four. Really, this guy right here

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Speaker 1: is the reason I got number four. Won his hard work,

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Speaker 1: his dedication, his lowliness, and we all know he's an enforcer.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: He enforced me not to whoop some ass on that team.

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Speaker 1: I'll let him tell the story.

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Speaker 2: You stopped him A lot of times, teammates or other people.

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Speaker 3: A couple lot of people, a couple a lot of

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Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna start one story off, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: let him finish it. So Rookie was talking smack to

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Speaker 1: and you do was like Shack, I love you and

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Speaker 1: respect you. I ain't gonna let you fight this this rookie.

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Speaker 1: But if y'all start fighting, I ain't about to break

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Speaker 3: But I want to fight in a shower, like he

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Speaker 3: was that bad that he wanted to assault somebody in

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Speaker 2: And me being there that was a safe space.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm the connector and I protected. But that's

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Speaker 3: I ain't want no positive. I ain't want no positive.

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Speaker 2: And then on the court, I'm sure there was a

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Speaker 1: Well, No, he was. He was the guy that when

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Speaker 1: they used to touch me up, he's always whispering big

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Speaker 1: failure when me get him, like no, just just wait,

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Speaker 1: just wait. So he was definitely for I knew my role.

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Speaker 3: I knew my role.

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Speaker 1: I saw the we when y'all was when you talked

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Speaker 1: about what's the guy from Indiana that I filed?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, hands bro yeah, b Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So like when you talk about that clip and this

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Speaker 1: is the clip right here, show it, producer Shack. So

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Speaker 1: when you talk about that, like and you'll start to

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Speaker 1: feel this all we have is our stories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like I've been going from the game for twelve thirteen years.

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Speaker 1: You see this right here. I can come down here,

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Speaker 1: me and my cousin King look at this and try

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Speaker 1: to picture the start. So when when you started talking

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Speaker 1: about that, that brought back memories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you know how I go, big fella, man,

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Speaker 3: you're in the playoffs. It's alpha male. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. Mino eight mono. I think, no matter what

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Speaker 3: the scheme is, everything's gonna come down to man oh man,

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Speaker 3: at some point, it's gonna come down to guard your yard.

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Speaker 3: I had got eight stitches the game before. That's the

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Speaker 3: thing with nobody, remember talk about they talk about me

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Speaker 3: hitting him, What about me? I got eight stitches the

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Speaker 2: You are doing a podcast with your guy Mike Miller.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of this you can go pay this man

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Speaker 1: Based on how he's talking right now. This is why

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Speaker 2: So Dwayne goes in the Hall of Fame and He's

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Speaker 1: Culture Dumm dudn't. That's their presidential music JOm domd it's

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Speaker 3: Hell no, it was a thing. I was at the strength,

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Speaker 2: And so when he when you heard he was coming,

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Speaker 3: Nah. The first thing I thought about was I got

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Speaker 1: Then I told Pat he got man. I said, Pat,

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Speaker 3: I stayed around eight nine yeah, seven eight seven. I'm

441
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,199
Speaker 3: at six and a half now, and so when you

442
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 3: guys I'm at sick, maybe at sick, I'm probably a

443
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,119
Speaker 3: sick sick if you are now and a half.

444
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm like twenty one, I'm about probably about fourteen plus three.

445
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,160
Speaker 3: Ain't none of it in his arms.

446
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,120
Speaker 2: I tell you that jack up your upper body is great.

447
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,400
Speaker 3: He ain't none of it in his arms.

448
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 1: I got a question when you announced retirement, what did

449
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 1: you do the next day? How to feel? Let me

450
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 1: get your story. So when I left the game, I

451
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 1: did something I never did before. I went outside and

452
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 1: picked the paper I'm and started talking to neighbors no seriously,

453
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 1: because I had to surge you right, and I thought

454
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 1: I was coming back, but then I was like, I

455
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: ain't got no fucking contract. That ain't going nowhere. So

456
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: I would just like go outside and just looking for

457
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 1: people to talk to all like, hey, what's up, hey, Shot?

458
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 1: Looking for Steve? Come over the bowl the leg like

459
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 1: I was just I was like super Bowl.

460
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 3: I couldn't wait for you to invite them over.

461
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: Let's say I was like super board and I was

462
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 1: going to just take a year off, and then I

463
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: got the call from TNT. But I don't know what

464
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 1: I would have did if I wouldn't have got that

465
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: call from TNT. I was like really super board and

466
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 1: just doing stuff I never done.

467
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 3: I got young boys, man, So I got, you know,

468
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 3: a sixteen year old and a twelve year old. My

469
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 3: sixteen year old player baseball at the American Heritage and

470
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 3: now my twelve year old play basketball at Florida Christian.

471
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 3: So immediately after the season's over, I dove in today summer.

472
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 3: If anybody know about this AU and travel baseball and

473
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 3: perfect competition and all that shit. They playing seven days

474
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 3: a week and twice on Sunday all around the world.

475
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 3: So now I want to dive in with them and

476
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 3: make sure that they get the things done that they

477
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 3: needed to get done. I'm up in the morning going

478
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 3: to the gym with my son playing basketball. I'm in

479
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 3: the bat and cage. I got a bat and cage

480
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: at the crib, so we in the backcage in the afternoon.

481
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 3: I'm doing everything I can with them, and then I

482
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 3: realized my goddamn whole summer was gone. Then I was mad.

483
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: So what I will say is time management. We used

484
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: to people managing our time. You tell us when we

485
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: got to be at practice. You tell us when we

486
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: got to be to the plane, and then after that

487
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 3: we do what we got. We do our own shit.

488
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,959
Speaker 3: Now our whole schedule is up to us. So I

489
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 3: did the opposite of you, you know what I'm saying.

490
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 3: Instead of going out to get the paper, I tried

491
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 3: to get involved in a lot of things that my

492
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: kids were doing and fucking around, and they had no

493
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: time for myself.

494
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: I want to give kudos to Miami Heat because you

495
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: are the Miami Hea. They talk about zol along that,

496
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: but you you are definitely Miami Heat. When they gave

497
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: you that job the vice president basketball Development, I was

498
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: happy for you. I appreciate. My question is in the

499
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: text to thank you. Yes, My question is were you

500
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: expecting that and are you ready for that?

501
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting to necessarily have that particular role, but

502
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 3: I knew I would be connected to the organization, and

503
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: I knew it would be in some form of fashion

504
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 3: of influence in the next generation and stay connected to

505
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 3: the younger guys in the future of the organization. I

506
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: think you know what people have to understand about the

507
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: Miami Heat is the superpower is not the talent. The

508
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 3: superpower is the connection. The superpower is the locker room.

509
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 3: The superpower is the time that we spend off the

510
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: court together getting to know each other's families. When these

511
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: guys come in this organization, it's one thing to say, hey,

512
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 3: do this. It's another thing to spend time with these guys,

513
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: get to know their families, hang out with them in

514
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: the summer, go to dinner, and then when they come

515
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: to practice, say hey, I need you to do this. Now,

516
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 3: you've already banned equity with these dudes. So I'm the

517
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 3: guy that's gonna spend time with you. I'm the guy

518
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 3: that's gonna get to know you. I'm the guy that's

519
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: gonna figure out how to push your butt so we

520
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 3: didn't get the best version out of you, And then

521
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm a direct sposed message to you.

522
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: We had so much fun in Miami. We had curfew?

523
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: Is that not common?

524
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: Bro?

525
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: Is this heat culture that don't know curfew?

526
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: Listen, we hurt that curfew. We hurt that curfew.

527
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: I used to tell about coaches. Hey man, I'm a

528
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: grown damn man. You can't give me carefy So.

529
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: Oh, parties in every city, all right, So you don't.

530
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: You don't need to tell me any of the details.

531
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: I know the statue of limitations. I don't get them

532
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: in trouble. Can you just paint the picture of a

533
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 2: room that you walked into where you saw shack and

534
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: you this is ridiculous.

535
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't like that, Okay, So.

536
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that he could have been like on

537
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: a table or something like that.

538
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: No, no, relax. First of all, I never did I

539
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: never did that in public. Let's just get that got

540
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: out that room. Get used to call us the heatles. Yeah,

541
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: because it was a side business. Hey man, fifty dollars

542
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: a show by the party. So when we go into

543
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: these cities, I'm not just gonna go sit in the room.

544
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta go have fun. And it's

545
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: my job to make sure everybody because I.

546
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: Don't drink, but you get other people drinks.

547
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: No, it's not that, it's just I let people do

548
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: what they do. And like you said, time management. So

549
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: we playing, were playing the rock. It's I gotta go

550
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: to work. He can chill. So if you want to

551
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: have a good time in Houston, y'all go ahead like

552
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: we'd always did. Like so my job to just boom bam,

553
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: And we always got in by two and then you know,

554
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: so two, shoot around to ten, come back and take

555
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: another nap. But that kept us close together. You saw

556
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: how he mentioned we hung out together. It's very important

557
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: you hang out together. We so it was we was

558
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: always together.

559
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: That's a partnership with the others. When you go out,

560
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 2: they become the stars and you take the back seat,

561
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: and then the next day at the game, you take over.

562
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: Like even though I am a star, I never treated

563
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: them like I was a star. And that's how you

564
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: gain their respect. Like you know, I don't. I never

565
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing this and doing that. You always gotta treat

566
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: everybody equally. But again, since I'm not a drinker and

567
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: the party is in my name, some shit gonna go down.

568
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in trouble anyway. So you know, a

569
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: lot of guys may not have this opportunity to have

570
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: a party and everything city he did every city, I'm sure,

571
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: every city.

572
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: And then and then when we get back to the

573
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, yes.

574
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: And then when we get back to the created city, yes,

575
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: then we get back to the crib. You got mansions,

576
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: you got lived, you got problem like It's just it

577
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: was just a constant party itself.

578
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: There was the Days the Stars.

579
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: I had heard a rumor, and I kind of want

580
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: to know your perspective. Twenty ten, Lebron comes. You guys

581
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: start nine to eight, and then you guys go and

582
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 2: win twenty one of your next twenty two. I know

583
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: that there was a lot of drama going on, and

584
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: I had heard a rumor that you were the one

585
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: that kind of set the tone in.

586
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: The locker room. Of course he did.

587
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: What was happening before was not acceptable.

588
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: Of course he did.

589
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: And I'm just curious if you could enlighten us on

590
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: what happened.

591
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 3: I probably tore up some shit in the locker room.

592
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 3: I've been known to throw a few things from time

593
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 3: to time, but I think one thing about me is

594
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: what everybody got to understand is, Man, I'm obsessed with winning,

595
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: Like I don't. I can't really deal with mediocrity, you

596
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I can't really deal with not

597
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: giving my best and not doing my best, you know

598
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So watching that team that we had

599
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: went out and put together, and I had sacrifice millions.

600
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: You know how hard it is to make millions up

601
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 3: out here. I had sacrifice millions to be a part

602
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: of that team. Yeah, I took it personally, you know,

603
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: I took it to heart. And then when you think

604
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: of a situation where, like Shaq said, it's gonna be

605
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 3: the other guys. You know what I'm saying. We had

606
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 3: the Big three Lebron, Dwayne, you know, Chris, But if

607
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: we didn't get it done, it's gonna be how can

608
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: we put better pieces around those guys. It's never gonna

609
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: be the particular situation that those guys didn't get it done.

610
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: It's like, how can we find other guys to put

611
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: around those guys? So when those guys weren't bringing their

612
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: A games, I was very honest, Hey, man, tighten that

613
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: shit up, because you're not coming out. It's gonna be me.

614
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 3: That's gonna come out, right, you go play your forty

615
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: two minutes. I'm gonna come out because you fuck it up.

616
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: It's just you don't see a lot of guys man

617
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: that can step to a Lebron can step to a

618
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: shack concept to a Jimmy Butler when he goes but

619
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: it's John correctly.

620
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're using the wrong term. Step two, it's

621
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: about respect. How many arguments me and you got to

622
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: a feel a feel, So it's but the respecting of

623
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: it be broken. My best friends we argue, we fight.

624
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: So when when we used to fight, but I really fight,

625
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: it's him being truthful like he always used to be, like,

626
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: come on, big fellow, you out there bullshit. But so

627
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: my father told me a long time ago, listen to

628
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: what I say, not how I say it. But when

629
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: you checking me, that's when I respect you more. Only

630
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: if I respect you back. Though, So it wasn't hey,

631
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: big feeling bullshit? Is hey, big feelure you out there bullshit?

632
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: Come on now? And like you you like needed that

633
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: sometimes And that's when I really started liking him, because

634
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: Rick Fox and Robert Ori and b Shaw did that

635
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: for me in LA. He was the one that kept

636
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: me in check. So when he started doing that first,

637
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I like this kid right here.

638
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: I really do like the confidence that he instilled in us,

639
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 3: a guy like myself, undrafted Dwayne. We were young man.

640
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: We didn't know what we were in for. We didn't

641
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 3: know anything about being champions or winning championships. But there's

642
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: this thing that they say being a champion before you

643
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: become a champion. There was a lot of things we

644
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: learned about that before we actually had the opportunity to

645
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: come saying you guys champ, Yes, yes, yes? And did

646
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: I tell him everything? What else you told us? I

647
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: remember that? No, tell me and Dwayne if we win,

648
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: what you was gonna do? I told you, get you

649
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 3: what you said you was gonna buy his Bentless. The

650
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: man told me and Dwayne if we win our first championship,

651
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: he said, we win this title, I'm gonna buy y'all Bentless.

652
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: The man they bought us no business. We was motivated

653
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: as hell. But what me and Dwayne did it go

654
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: to buy our own Bentless?

655
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: When you live?

656
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: He said, justy, I'm in Southwest Ranches.

657
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: I thought you lived to Marra mar that Bentley we

658
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: had dropped off in mirror mar In two thousand and six.

659
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: Probably was there a part of you though that like

660
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: during the finals, looked over at Dwaine like, yea, we're

661
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: gonna get yeah, because.

662
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: You know, because when when all my Lakers teams win,

663
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: we were bragged about what I did from so didn't

664
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: know it was a possibility I was gonna do.

665
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: We damn showed we believe we was young. We ain't. No, no,

666
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: damn better. He said, what, Billy, let's go all right.

667
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Now that we're all all acquainted, back to that ring

668
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: of honor. What does that mean? Are they retiring New Jersey?

669
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: Yes?

670
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, okay, all right, okay.

671
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: Here from Miami, man, I can't complain.

672
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's no one can wear forty again.

673
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: No when that shit can? I tell you the story

674
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: behind number forty percent. So there's an original mister Miami

675
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: from Liberty City, from my hood, played for University of Miami.

676
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: Tim James, He's like, he's the Miami version of Damn.

677
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: He's the Miami version of Pee Wee Kirkland. He's a

678
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: legend in the city of Miami. He was the original

679
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: to get drafted from the University of Miami. To the

680
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: Miami Heat. He won number forty first. Also, my father

681
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: who passed away, late great father won number forty. So

682
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: it's in a lot of people call me the original

683
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: mister Miami to play for the Miami Heat, but people

684
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: don't know the history. There's another guy that got drafted

685
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: from the University of Miami, from my hood from Liberty City,

686
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: Wardner before they played for the Heat. So I always

687
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: shout out Tim James.

688
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've taken that legacy and cemented

689
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: it now that no one else can touch it?

690
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

691
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: I think so. I think so. I mean, yeah, you

692
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: know that was never the goal, but yeah, I think so.

693
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: Speaking of jerseys in Miami, I hate the fact. I

694
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: hate the fact that they hang up other people's jerseys.

695
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: Which ones are the ones that upset you the most?

696
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: Anybody? Because noncause I hope I'm not disrespecting anybody by

697
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: his term. But you know, I watch a lot of movies,

698
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: right this thing of ours, this is what we built. Yes,

699
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan ain't never play for the Heat. Bill Russell

700
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: ain't never played for the Heat.

701
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I got to agree with them.

702
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: You did your own thing with your little Celtics family.

703
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: In Chicago funding, but this Miami thing, and I was

704
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: one of the original championship families. I lived on Star Island.

705
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: I had the big house on Star Island, and then

706
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: something happened where they thought I was assassinated, but I wasn't.

707
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: I ended up in the desert in Phoenix and tried

708
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: to make a comeback, but it was too late. So

709
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: this this is our thing. So I don't like that. Personally,

710
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: I try to be disrespectful. I'm really good friends with

711
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: the Earisons, and you know, me and Pat, we're having

712
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: a better relationship. But I never did like that.

713
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: I mean, as a as a team leader, as a competitor,

714
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say whatever I got to say to make

715
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: you not like the other side. And then when it's Boston,

716
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say more than whatever I got to say

717
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: to not like you to make you like the other side.

718
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: Because when you walking down arena, the things they say

719
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: to you, I ain't I'm from Liberty City. I ain't

720
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: heard some of the shit that they people come out

721
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: to them, people mound fact Dad Boston, I've never heard

722
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: it before.

723
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: All the respect for Bill Russell, all the respectful fact,

724
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 2: it's a Celtic.

725
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: I listen. I love Bill Russell and what he means

726
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: to the game of basketball, but not up in here.

727
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: Not up in here, y'all too think y'all slick. We've

728
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: been here an hour and y'all and y'all haven't said

729
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: the name?

730
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: What name?

731
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: What about Draymond?

732
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: What about Raymond?

733
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: What about you? Raymon? You tell me, you tell me

734
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: your opinion? Really we brought it up earlier, but I

735
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: want to I want to hear some some guys what.

736
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: The problem is. It's no me and You's, or Kenya

737
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: Martin's or or or Ron our tests. He wouldn't do

738
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: no ship like that.

739
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: A lot of international guy not talking about that.

740
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying I have a problem when they say he

741
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: needs help.

742
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: Nah, No, what You're actually smarter than the average been.

743
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: That bothers me. It seems like a cop not only copy.

744
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: It is just if we don't say it, it shouldn't

745
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: go viral, right, We this thing of ours like you

746
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: got a lot of people and you're not in that position,

747
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: but you are. But you're well respected. You're like you're

748
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: like an earnest fraternity. People love you. You don't have

749
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: no enemies, but a lot of these guys just be saying,

750
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: so he needs help. When you say he needs help,

751
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: that makes it seems like he's he's crazy. Off the court,

752
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: we're all different people. On the court. I want to

753
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: knock your fucking teeth out your mouth on the court.

754
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Off the court, I'm not about to get in that lawsuit.

755
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm not about to about to have those problem. But

756
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: on the court, that's how I am. And then this

757
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: is how he's been the whole time. The man has

758
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: I think I sent you the clip. The man has

759
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: twenty ejections. I'm at sixteen. Do I need help? Actually,

760
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: I do need help. I need help filling up this

761
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: goddamn HOOKA brought it out built. Do I need help? Yeah,

762
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: I need help running my Krispy Kreme and my big Chickens.

763
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: So when you put the narrative out that he needs help,

764
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: making the man look crazyah, and the man is not crazy.

765
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: He's very intelligent.

766
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: No, Off the court, he's great.

767
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: And then you know what I don't like about this

768
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: situation four years ago when YA was, oh, oh my god,

769
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: he's so undersized, he's so tough. Look at this toughness.

770
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: He's throwing people around he's not letting people. It was okay,

771
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: it was okay, but now since they're not winning and

772
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: he's losing, now he needs help.

773
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: One thing I want to do with you a lot

774
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: is what would Shaq do? And I'm just curious if

775
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: you were Nurkic or you were Gobert, he.

776
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have did that to me. And let me tell

777
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: you why not on no bully thing. I'm not gonna

778
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: have my hands on the way out there like that.

779
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be trying to because listen,

780
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: he was trying to flail trying to get the call.

781
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: That's what he's trying to get the call. And the

782
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: only mistake he made is he had his hands out

783
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: like that. If I have my hands out like this

784
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna hit you. If I go like this,

785
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hit you. That's the only mistake he made.

786
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: But guess what, he been doing that the whole time,

787
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: his whole career. So does he need help? No, this

788
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: is how he has to play. He had to play

789
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: a certain way. You look at him, no disrepair. He's

790
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: not a big guy, but he's six eight. People disrespect him.

791
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: I hate to get. Tell you right now, I'm gonna

792
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: hate the other side. I'm feel that's my few. I

793
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: don't like you, fuck you and the horse you rode

794
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: in one. That is my few for everybody we play against.

795
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: And if I can get the other fifteen guys in

796
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: my locker room to feel like me, then had we

797
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: got the competitive advantage. And that's the only problem. He

798
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: needs help, like stop, he don't even know help, like bro,

799
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: He's been doing this the whole time. Rashid is leading

800
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: with I think twenty nine, Draymond twenty, I'm at sixteen.

801
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: Me and DeMarcus Cousins got sixteen ejections. So am I crazy? No?

802
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: I need help to like what you're saying. I do

803
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: think it seems like when we don't know what to say,

804
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: what the media when they don't know what to say,

805
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: they say. I really hope his mentals are okay and

806
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: he gets the help he needs, which to me is like, no,

807
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 2: we need to have a real conversation about what he's

808
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: doing and not just hide behind that.

809
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you, I mean because when they said that,

810
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I went I went to search him as a man

811
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: had a problem with his family, and the man like

812
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: the man is a model citizen. Every time I see

813
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: him in the back, he hugging his daughters like he should.

814
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: He's a father. So you know, there was times where

815
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: I would come home and be like, hey, not not today.

816
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: I've heard Gary Payton talk about you on the court

817
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: versus off the court.

818
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: It's different people, just different people.

819
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure off the court your family would not even

820
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: understand that you would act on the court of the

821
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: things that.

822
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: You would say. And then you're gonna get all these

823
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: people with nine G fourteen classification you don't listen to.

824
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: But I'm not sticking up for nobody. But I'm just

825
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: saying I ain't gonna just let you all ruin the

826
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: man because y'all don't understand the man. I understand the man.

827
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: You got to play a certain way. Let me let me,

828
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. He knows this because every

829
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: now and then, when I shoot my fade away because

830
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: I want to be like Duncan and Garnett, he'd be like, hey,

831
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: big fellow, fuck that shit, fuck all that so like.

832
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: But I never wanted to be bully all the time.

833
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring it down over like. But sometimes

834
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: you gotta do what you gotta do to win. So

835
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I had to knock people teeth out their mouth and

836
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: timid that. When I've turned, I'm looking for the offensive

837
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: file because if you want to play tough and be

838
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: all strong, I'm knocking your teeth out your mouth because

839
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm guaranteed you can't take it twice. I'm guaranteeing you

840
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: can't take it twice.

841
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: It's a way to get somebody back out there if

842
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: you want to, if you want to get one off,

843
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: it's a way to get one off and and not

844
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 3: hurt somebody them one to nothing.

845
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

846
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how to play that game. But if

847
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: you want to, if we all know, if you want

848
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: to retaliate, or if you want to get a sneaky

849
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: yeah shout in, it's a way to do it without

850
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: making it for the cameras, for tn T, without getting suspended.

851
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: Like you know who I have to go that far?

852
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: You know who I'm at at what's his name? I'm

853
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: mad to get him some help. No, I'm mad because

854
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: you're ruining what I created at the Big Man Alliance.

855
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: You don't let no little man hit you. Your first reaction

856
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: shouldn't be your first reaction, be like we fighting, even

857
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: if you don't want to fight, act like you want

858
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: to fight. Like bro, we all been hitting the face before,

859
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: so come all that laying on the ground. You make it.

860
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: You're making me look bad. That's what I'm about. You

861
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: need help, get your big ass up and fight. How

862
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: about that?

863
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: With someone on Instagram who doesn't follow me, but it's okay.

864
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: His name Shack. Don't follow anybody, Yeah, okay, But anyway,

865
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: he posted a picture I guess somebody else because Shack

866
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: loves posting this. There's a picture of and Victor Wemba

867
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: Yama and it was these are the big men today.

868
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, d what would Shack's stat line

869
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: be if he was up against Chet, who is Phenomenal't

870
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: don't do that. He's really good, don't do that. How

871
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 2: would it be against Chet? Or that line?

872
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: I hate when y'all do that.

873
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: Which part he's saying he's great?

874
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: No, y'all throwing in one words that we had to

875
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: work hard.

876
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: For Phenomena's not really promising.

877
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, he's good, But don't be going promising great

878
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: and future Hall of Famer.

879
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.

880
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's starting to day against the chel Starting today,

881
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm putting it in all that ship I am starting today.

882
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 2: I can't say the word great.

883
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: No, y'all can't y'all can't just be giving giving these

884
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: people of things who ain't put in their work like

885
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: his body of works. Yes, I agree with that. Yeah,

886
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: So like phenomena is the wrong word. And you can't

887
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: use dominant unless he does it for a consistent, consistent

888
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: amount of time. I'm not talking two or three games.

889
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking years. Yeah, a good point years.

890
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: Shack against the modern day center.

891
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: I mean they couldn't guard him. They couldn't gard him.

892
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: He would dominate him obviously in the post. And when

893
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: he gets the ball with your chest, you did, you

894
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: got straight up and down like six o'clock like what

895
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: they're gonna do with big flu. But on the other end,

896
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: big for you got to get out of hedge on

897
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: them screens. You know what I'm talking about, heads on

898
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: the screens to get back to these guys. Now you

899
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: have what you said. Now they can't guard him, But

900
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 3: on the other end, he's gonna have the hedge on

901
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: the screens.

902
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: Get back.

903
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: I'm that but uh.

904
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I one time of practice we had like

905
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: the show drill like for three hours and you got beat.

906
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: Shack, big ass show us what the fuck I got?

907
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: I gotta because I got to show and get back

908
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: to my man and he don't have to show it

909
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: get back to his man. That's a low story, all right.

910
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: So this is technically our New Year's episode. And I'm curious.

911
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever made New Year's resolutions? And have

912
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: you ever made one and then not followed through for

913
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: like years years.

914
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: All the time? Yeah, I always had a New Year's resolution.

915
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: I don't never get to them. What's your body right now?

916
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 3: About six six and a half?

917
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 1: Right? If I don't, if I don't pull my shirt

918
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: off March six on my birthday and show people how

919
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: sexy a halm, I'll give you ten dozen.

920
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: So you just have to pull off your shirt. Do

921
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: you have to have abs or you're just well?

922
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: I would like to have apps, but I want to

923
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: be so my New Year's resolution is to be chisled up.

924
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: I want to do a thought daddy Thursday.

925
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: Everything this.

926
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: Thursday I do. I want to, you know, be all

927
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: up sitting at.

928
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: The hood with what up like you're going for the

929
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: body found.

930
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: New Year's resolution that if I'm not chised up by

931
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: March six, I'm gonna give you ten thousand to any

932
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: charity you want. Beautiful, right, And I want people and

933
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: I want people out there to remind me and challenge

934
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: me because.

935
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: Start day Thursday, challenge.

936
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: Don't know what that's gonna be.

937
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: Like, what resolutions have you not followed through? Mine is

938
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: like abs too. I've been trying to get twenty years not.

939
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: A thing, you know what it is? Goddamn oreoles, they're

940
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: so good.

941
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 3: I've been trying to give up cussing for years.

942
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: Oh there's no chance.

943
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: I've been trying to give up. That's been my New

944
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 3: Year's resolution every New Year. As soon as I cussed,

945
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: there's one out of five.

946
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: Or goes can I cuss? Yeah, that's the thing.

947
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 3: That's my thing for New Year's every new and that's

948
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: why I never do it. Worth ship, damn motherfucker.

949
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: Oh just put them all together.

950
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: They swayed, They swayed to reamas need you hooked that

951
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: up for me?

952
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: And then my follow up for that would be what

953
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: NBA player do you think you've cussed out the most?

954
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: Oh?

955
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: May me?

956
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: Probably definitely Shack.

957
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: There was someone else that you thought.

958
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: Of Probably, I'm gonna say, Dwayne and Shaq, really, I

959
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: used to get me and get it work, Yeah, and

960
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: puss at each other all the goddamn But again that's respect, Yeah,

961
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: because we both want the same thing. And I know

962
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: I can tuch. I know how to I know how

963
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: to push these guys. But to motivate these guys, we

964
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 3: speak the same language. Everybody don't speak that language. Some guys.

965
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: I can't talk to you like that. It don't work

966
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: for everybody at all. You talk to those guys like that,

967
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: all right.

968
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: So because this is the New Year's episode, uh, we

969
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: got to look at the New Year's Games. So this

970
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: is who you went, presented by the General Insurance.

971
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: You already know it.

972
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: What do you know about the General? I know a

973
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: lot about the General, iconic shack commercial.

974
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: I love the General Insurance. So you know why I'm

975
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: went the.

976
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: General because you had it when you couldn't afford car insurance.

977
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 1: Yes, that's why. Years and I got tired of hearing

978
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: the song. So he's a witness, got another witness. Every

979
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: morning at ten am, we wake up with thousands of

980
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: dollars and we watched the Mary Povis Show. And we

981
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: make bets on who the father is. That that was

982
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: my you are not every dayn thing, So like we

983
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: watch it, we let them talk and then we pause

984
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: and then we pull that money. I bet you a

985
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: thousand and half the five. So that was my thing.

986
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: So the general Yeah, so every morning for years and

987
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: then that damn jingle used to come on for a

988
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: regular rate. So I've always had it in my head.

989
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: So when my guy he came off some day he said, hey, man,

990
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: the General Insurance. I was like, the General Insurance. And

991
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: then I said, I said, can you go to my

992
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: go to my thing, and you know, look at all

993
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: the papers, and damn sure. I had it in college.

994
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: So when I wanted to meet with them, I wanted

995
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: to tell them the story because I don't like just

996
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: taking people's money if I don't have any infiliation, and

997
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: it was offering a lot of money, so respectfully, I

998
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: wanted to go tell them, Hey, I like you guys,

999
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: but this is not so because I had a story.

1000
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: It was a perfect fit. And I always tell people,

1001
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: and I was telling him, it's not about the deals,

1002
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: it's about the renewals, because anybody can get a deal,

1003
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: but if you keep getting renewals. At the renewals, it

1004
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: just shows that that your your your team is professional,

1005
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: their team is professional, and relationship is great. So I've

1006
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: had nine renewals with the.

1007
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: General Insurance first one Timberwolves Nicks.

1008
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody watching that, I'm going with Timberwolves man, nobody

1009
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: watching that leadership.

1010
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm a groupie. Yeah, I like that, man, I do. However,

1011
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: he's he's in, he's he's in the fraternity. He ain't

1012
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: crossed yet, no disrespect to and I love him.

1013
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: But playoff success that gets them that.

1014
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: No, it's not that I'm just saying New Year's bro

1015
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: family getting rid of My question was going to be,

1016
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear some Minnesota in New York for

1017
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: New Year's do I like?

1018
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: And it's the early game. I'm kind of worried about

1019
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: a young Timberwolves.

1020
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: Team in how early? How how early is a.

1021
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: Game probably be like early afternoon, like.

1022
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: So okay, so if it's one o'clock, I'll just be

1023
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: getting up. I may watch it, but it's not gonna

1024
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: be something that I'm rushing to. No real talk like

1025
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: come on, bro like and and you know it's crazy

1026
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: like a lot of people try to test me on

1027
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: my basketball history. If he wasn't one of the top teams,

1028
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: I don't know who you are.

1029
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna love this one because the second game

1030
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: is Pacers at Bucks. We just saw the game ball

1031
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: fiasco with Yiannis, so my betting, what my bet would

1032
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: be on this game would be y honest points. He

1033
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: is averaging against the Pacers this year, fifty two points

1034
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: in three games against the Pacers.

1035
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: And what time is that game?

1036
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 2: That'll be around like that two three o'clock.

1037
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so just be getting up, just be eating breakfast.

1038
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: May work out. Actually, I gotta work out because I

1039
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: just got there. So I'm gonna work out, and I'm

1040
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna watch that game. Let me tell you why Yannis

1041
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: Dame great players much CTV the fiasco that went on.

1042
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm watching for a different reason. Hey, Pacers, your little punks,

1043
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna let that motherfucker sixty four.

1044
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: Or or or he said sixty four, fifty four and

1045
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: thirty seven.

1046
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: So hey, hey Milwaukee, they took your game ball. What

1047
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna do, Like, I want to see if there's

1048
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna be some competition.

1049
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: So you said before, don't call young guys great until

1050
00:45:59,760 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: they do it.

1051
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: I agree.

1052
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: I think we have another problem in media is when

1053
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: we talk about rivalries when not enough has happened yet. Yeah,

1054
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: like the way you talked about Boston, that's a rivalry.

1055
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: Could Milwaukee, Indiana?

1056
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: For no, But I do. I do like Halliburton, and

1057
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: let me tell you why he competes. So when we

1058
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: were out there a couple of weeks ago, when New

1059
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: Orleans and season told me when New Orleans was getting

1060
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: ready to play Lakers, and my guys Kenny and Jerome

1061
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: tell me, I got to stop doing this shit. I

1062
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: put myself in a position. So I'm saying, we out

1063
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: here and it's lebron, lebron, lebron, lebron, Lebron. I'm thinking, like, what, Jia,

1064
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? Like like this is okay, you

1065
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: the king, but at some point the king gotta go.

1066
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: It's guess what the king got the kingdom? He got

1067
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: all this I want all that shit. So I'm thinking

1068
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: that's how he would think. And then the man went

1069
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: out there. And then I was very careful when I criticized.

1070
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to criticize them with facts, because when I criticized.

1071
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: Me, if you brought a paper and everything.

1072
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: When I criticized my people, I'm muscle teaching. If I

1073
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: don't like you, you'll know I don't like you. But I'm

1074
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: not gonna use this to say I don't like you.

1075
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna holler at you. You see what I'm saying.

1076
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: So I was saying he didn't run hard, and I

1077
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: was there watching, Right, he don't create easy points for herself, right,

1078
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: and everybody else wait and weigh that.

1079
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve and A went kind of crazy on the wait.

1080
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: I stayed away from that because they said I was

1081
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: fat too, But how I got out of that. I'm

1082
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: still dominating. I'm still getting thirty.

1083
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: We wouldn't be talking about thank you anything.

1084
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: And that's my whole point. I need him to do that.

1085
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: So now, oh, and then I hate when they say, well,

1086
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: what do you think of what Shaq and Charles said?

1087
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: Shack ain't said nothing but your weight? Yeah, I said

1088
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: nothing but your weight. You could be as big as

1089
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: you want if you if you're averaging what you suppose to.

1090
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: Average people are not gonna have that conversation. So at

1091
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: some point I got to stop thinking these guys would

1092
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: think how I would do because I remember when I

1093
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: was coming in, it was Mike, Charles, Kenny, and Pack

1094
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: and I was just basic business. Like when I first

1095
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: got into the shoe business, you ain't gonna outsell Mike.

1096
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: But guess what put me next to him? First year

1097
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: I came in, I was like, no, I forget Mike.

1098
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: My shoes ain't selling shit. Second me and I was like, hey,

1099
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: can I get right there? Mike gon'ta be right there?

1100
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: But I'm like, can I get right there and right there?

1101
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: So when you look, you can be like, oh, I

1102
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: like them, draw alost of them shacks now. So when

1103
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: you get next to these people, that's your chance. You

1104
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: got to take them. But he didn't do that. And

1105
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't respond back that you tells

1106
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: me he ain't ready get mad. Get mad them people

1107
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: call you fat. What you're going to do about it?

1108
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: Shak said, you ain't working hard? What you're going to

1109
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: do about it? The fact that you don't get mad

1110
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: shows me that you don't care. And this thing you

1111
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: have to care because if you don't care, and listen,

1112
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: they give me that money away. I am so jealous, bro,

1113
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: I am so jealous of these young athletes.

1114
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: I think for the first years we worked together. You

1115
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: had a really hard time getting.

1116
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: With Rudy Gobert. No, No, with Rudy Gobert.

1117
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: When he got like two hundred million, you about to

1118
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: come back.

1119
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I made a comment a long time ago,

1120
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: kids just follow Rudy Gobert. It's not that I'm dissing them.

1121
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, everybody want to be dad, everybody want to

1122
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: be cold, everybody want to be Lebron. But this man

1123
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: works hard. He's after nine, ten, twelve points and he

1124
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: makes two fifty. That's what I meant when I say

1125
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: follow him. But you deal with these earth flings like

1126
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: you gotta understand when I don't like you, you'll know,

1127
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna know. From here, I'm gonna holler

1128
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: at you when I see you. I don't need this

1129
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: to get at you. I don't need this to pick

1130
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: myself up. This studio right here is sitting on how

1131
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: many acres? My boy, it was a lot A lot.

1132
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: Driver got lost, So like I don't, I've never been

1133
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: like that. He knows, like when I want to holler

1134
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: at you, I'm gonna holler at you like I used

1135
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: to tell them some time to add me about the knockers.

1136
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: Head'll be fellow, don't do that. We need to find

1137
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: that yet, all right?

1138
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: Third game is Hornet's Nuggets.

1139
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: Not watching it?

1140
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,479
Speaker 2: Not a great game.

1141
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: That's the one they should have put at. One might

1142
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: go for fifty getting.

1143
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: I like I like Yoka chies and the big man lines,

1144
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: but I'm not watching.

1145
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: I guess I mean, I love Yoki.

1146
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: But my bet on that one is Denver third quarter?

1147
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: What is it? Man? I've looked at some statue d

1148
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: some teams. The good teams incredible in the third quarter.

1149
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: The bad teams get a blit is it? You going

1150
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: a halftime and you guys look at each other and go,

1151
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: enough of this funny business. We're taking care of it, right,

1152
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: Like Charlotte is one in ten in the third quarters.

1153
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: I think they just can't maintain it.

1154
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: It just they falls off the clip.

1155
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: Being able to maintain it for forty eight minutes for

1156
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: the entire game. You know it's not easy. Then you

1157
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: go in and you take your foot off the gas

1158
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: for what ten to fifteen minutes? You in the locker room. Yeah,

1159
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: most of these guys nine times in ten. Soon they

1160
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: walk from the locker room, they check their damn phone.

1161
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: They check their phone in the heat locker room.

1162
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: Better not let us catch your ass. You bet I

1163
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 3: let us get your ass, that's what you bet I

1164
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: let us do. Yeah, most of these guys walk in

1165
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: the locker room, but they tap it and look at

1166
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: the phone and immediately you've lost the age. Yeah, lost

1167
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: the age man.

1168
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like there's forty eight minute teams, Black, forty

1169
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: minute teams, and then there's like twenty four minute teams.

1170
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1171
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: Our last one Heat at Clippers. So the Clippers now

1172
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: are on our time one time. That's the prime time game.

1173
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: What time was that?

1174
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: That'll probably be like your nine ten eastern?

1175
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, definitely not watching that one because you know,

1176
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: because you know what, because we gotta get ready for.

1177
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: The Clippers are on a roll. James Harden starting to click.

1178
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: Westbrook on the bench is looking good. Heat on the

1179
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 2: road in La.

1180
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: All Heat eat. But see, you gotta you gotta understand

1181
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: an organization like the heatles. We know how to conduct

1182
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: ourselves with certain cities. So you try to oh it's La.

1183
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: We don't care about it. We know we know how

1184
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: to do.

1185
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: See how people are when they come to Miami.

1186
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: Yes, based on what we put down the manuals there.

1187
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: We know, like big cities, never intimidating, Like when you

1188
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: own New York, New York. You're not gonna be out

1189
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: all goddamn night in New York anyway. You're gonna be

1190
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: out an hour or two at the spot and then

1191
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: you're going back to the room to watch movies and

1192
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: go to sleep.

1193
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: But you like the heat, like the heat, like he

1194
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I ain't gonna never go against heat, never,

1195
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: but you never. I mean, I'm loyal to the sailer.

1196
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1197
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: Hell, like I got to fly back to the three

1198
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 3: oh five today. How the hell could I pick La?

1199
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: There's no way.

1200
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: So when you go on NBA TV and you continue

1201
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: your TV career, do you think there will ever be

1202
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: a time where you don't pick the heat to win

1203
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: a game?

1204
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: Never?

1205
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: Never? Even also gonna be I'm also gonna be honest,

1206
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: if the heat ain't doing that job, I'm gonna say

1207
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: that too. Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna be. I'm not

1208
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 3: gonna I'm not gonna, you know, lie about it. You

1209
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. When is that Jersey retirement is?

1210
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I'm there. January sixth, sixteenth

1211
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: or somewhere around there. Yeah, I want to make sure

1212
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: I'm there January nineteenth.

1213
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 1: So brother, I know you got to catch a flight.

1214
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: My condolez. Just go out to you.

1215
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, mane your mom, brother, Thanks, I loved you.

1216
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah they always, yeah, always my pops who were not

1217
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: here today, but he's one of.

1218
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: The Thank you man. Congratulation on getting your jersey retired. Well,

1219
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: just and I'll see you and.

1220
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: We'll catch him on the OG's podcast.

1221
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: Ogs podcast Maker and hopefully to see you on TNT.

1222
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: My neighbor, I'm coming to your motherfucking house. The man stay.

1223
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: I'm in Southwest Ranches. You and Davy, you got one

1224
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: of these down there?

1225
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: No, but he might have come and he might have

1226
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: your Bentley down there, your Bentley down there.

1227
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: You're right, he might have my Bailey or one that

1228
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: I can borrow.

1229
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: All right, So we just talked to you. D I

1230
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: feel like ud is in your top five people that

1231
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: have G fourteen classification. I feel like he's up in

1232
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: the ranks of dude. You respect like that.

1233
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: So a lot of people don't know me and you

1234
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: deal the same people. What I mean by that, you

1235
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: look at me as a superstar. I wasn't always like that.

1236
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: It was them. So that's why I respect him. I'm

1237
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: not one of these superstars that forget so, like I

1238
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: tell my sons this all the time, life is like this, right.

1239
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: You may be the man high school. When you go

1240
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: to college, you got to start all over. So in

1241
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: high school I was the man. My first two years

1242
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: in college I was ud, and then when Chris and

1243
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: Stanley left, I became the man again. When I first

1244
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: came into the NBA, I was shocked, but only in Orlando.

1245
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: When I go to the Allstar Games, I couldn't get

1246
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: extra tickets. I couldn't say do this and do that,

1247
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: so I was UD. So I really love people like

1248
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: him and respect people like them, and I always tell

1249
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: them thank you. Because when I got double, I had

1250
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: to kick it out to him and Rick and Big

1251
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: shop out. They had to make the shot.

1252
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: I could tell. The one thing that you guys have

1253
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: in common, it takes very little to motivate you. And

1254
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: all it takes is one person to say something I said,

1255
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: and you will hold it, will burn a fire.

1256
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: In burn it because you know why, Because because of

1257
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: the love for my mother and father see I'm a

1258
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: reform bully, only no one way. I used to punch

1259
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: people in their face, but you can't do that down

1260
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: in the corpor world. So, like you said, it burns

1261
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: just happening.

1262
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: Had a Papa John's meeting.

1263
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: Like I hate when part like I hate when people

1264
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: say he didn't work on his free throws. Like everybody said,

1265
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: I want to punch you in your fucking face. Every

1266
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: time I had a bad game, I would come tear

1267
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: my house up and I would shoot a thousand free throws,

1268
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: me and Kenny, Me and n eighty percent at home

1269
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: at home, and they would get mad because they seen

1270
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: my Steph Curry like for him, and they would see it,

1271
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: and then when I get in the game, it wouldn't

1272
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: be there. They would tell that, and just like, so, oh,

1273
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: he don't work on the game, bro, I'm in the

1274
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: gym more than I am out on it. Just so

1275
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: That's why I like sometime when I had to like

1276
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: buckle down and make it the fact that I did practice,

1277
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: I could just you know, tuck that doubow and the

1278
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: ones I needed. That's why I always said, forget my

1279
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: percentage percentages. When I need to hit him, I'm.

1280
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 2: Gonna be there free throws in the clutch.

1281
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: The black Steph Curry eighty five percent.

1282
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: And I wanted to know what Steph Curry thinks about

1283
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: you calling yourself the black stuff Curry.

1284
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: His mom said. His mom said, Steph's black too. I

1285
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: was like, you're right, mom.

1286
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: All right. So New Year's twenty twenty three coming to

1287
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: an end, and the viewers listeners, we need to tell

1288
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: them the dos and don'ts of New Year's celebrations, and

1289
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: so I'm curious, do you have any words of wisdom

1290
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: for keeping people safe?

1291
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: On y The first thing you should always put in

1292
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: your head is be safe. Second thing you should always

1293
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: do is act out scenarios you know can happen if

1294
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: I drink and drive. I don't want to tell you

1295
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: those scenarios. It is too that you don't want to

1296
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: be involved with. So be smart about that. I say,

1297
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: have your uber or your car service set out earlier.

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Speaker 2: Mix it a water.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say. I'm not gonna say that yet. I'm

1300
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: just saying I'm just gonna let's have the transportation like

1301
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: this New Year is, I'm going crazy. I may I

1302
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: may take a couple of shots. Will Yeah. But but

1303
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: I already know I'm not driving, so I already got died.

1304
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: I set up. I got a show, right, I'm gonna

1305
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: do my little show. I'm going on tour from one

1306
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: to three. We probably go just smoke some hoo, can relax.

1307
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: But how am I gonna get home? Safety? Boom. Now,

1308
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: while you're doing these activities, you gotta continue to be safe, brothers.

1309
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: Turn it off on New Year's Okay, you dress up,

1310
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: you're there with your lady, with your boys. Don't be

1311
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: going to the club with animosity, starting to fight. Somebody

1312
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: bumping to you. Just say what's up, my boy? Were

1313
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: there to have a good time because I don't seen

1314
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: a lot of things pop off on New Years. So

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00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: make sure you get home safe, go into the club

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00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: with a clear mind, and just do the right thing.

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00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: I said, like I'm not no, life is simple like

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00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: for something. Man, were about to go to the club.

1319
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: We know we'll go down to the club, so some

1320
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: drinkings and then okay, so how are you gonna get

1321
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: back from the club. I gotta be safe. If I

1322
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: get stopped with the cops and get boom and get

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00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: arrested and lose my job. You don't want to do that,

1324
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: So set up some transportation and when you're there with

1325
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: your boys, go on your section, mind your business. Don't

1326
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: be looking at people. Don't be looking at people girls,

1327
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: they'll be disrespecting people. Stay in your section with your boys,

1328
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: do you think, and get home safely.

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00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: My piece of advice would be be with people that

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00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: when the ball drops and everyone's like twenty twenty four,

1331
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: that you want to be hanging out with in twenty

1332
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: twenty four, there's always that moment where like all the

1333
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: energy dies down and you look around and you're like

1334
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: these same motherfucker, like I gotta be with them. Try

1335
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: and hang out with people that will uplift, like try

1336
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: and make it a new thing. Don't be on their

1337
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: old stuff. Your point now something we do every week.

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: Words of Shack Inspiration, where you give inspiration to our listeners.

1339
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: And again you can email us. You could not email us,

1340
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: you can tweet at us or Instagram. Don't slide into

1341
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: Shacks DMS. This comes from a listener, doctor O'Neil. I

1342
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: have a son who's recovered physically from a knee injury,

1343
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: but it's having mental issues with confidence and performing at

1344
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: the level he was before the injury. Can you give

1345
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: us some advice on how to overcome those mental hurdles.

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00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: My advice to the young fella is things will be okay.

1347
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: You have to push. Now. When I say push, I

1348
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: don't mean a regular push. For example, if the doctor

1349
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: says you do this rehab for three weeks, you'll be

1350
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: back to normal. So let's just say he says you

1351
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: got to do like this one set. I'm doing five sets.

1352
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: Do five sets, wait till he leave. There ain't the

1353
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: way I look do another set. Because we control our mentals.

1354
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: You can never let our mentals control us, which is

1355
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: very hard to do. A lot of times ago I'm

1356
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: not there. I'm not there. I'm not there. I'm not there,

1357
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: and you start to believe it. But at some point

1358
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: you have to say, I'm going to get there. I'm

1359
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: going to get there. I'm going to get there. I'm

1360
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: going to get there. I'm going to get there. I

1361
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: don't know what the D feels like. I almost did

1362
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: when I was I don't like to say the word

1363
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: depression well.

1364
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: Because I was going to pause, right, yeah, we were

1365
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: all the thing that nobody said it. I was like, yeah,

1366
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: I hope you all know what it feels like.

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01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: You're right, but I don't know what. I don't know

1368
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: what depression feels like, but I almost got there. One

1369
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: day when I stopped playing, I was like, because I because.

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: All I had no idea.

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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: I didn't like I didn't even have commercial setup. I

1372
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: was just just doing stuff and one phrase got me

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01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: back out of it. One phrase. So my mom was

1374
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: asking me one day, was wrong. I don't know. I'm

1375
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: just I don't know know, and she looked at me

1376
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: and said it could be worse. And then I just

1377
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: put it in perspective. I was like, you know what,

1378
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: I still got my house, let me check this account.

1379
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm good. I still I'm gonna check this garage.

1380
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: So it was like, so my thing was, why the

1381
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: fuck are you complaining? So I'm not saying this young

1382
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: guys complaining, But my answer to him to get back

1383
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: to that is just stay focused and you you always

1384
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: have to believe. You always have to believe, and you're

1385
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: not gonna be at that point right away. You took

1386
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: a traumatic injury. You gotta you're at zero now, you

1387
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: gotta go to forty and fifty and sixty, and once

1388
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: you get to a hundred, you just got to.

1389
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: Keep it strong so and don't stop then either.

1390
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: And then mom has to encourage him, not baby him

1391
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: and push him. When I was young and I would

1392
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: get hurt, My Mama, get up man, twist Minchael. Now

1393
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: you still gotta take that trash out like you So.

1394
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: I know he's your baby, but if you baby him,

1395
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna want to baby yourself. See the good thing

1396
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: that like, I have a lot of people that controlled

1397
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: the shack, the Sarge, Uncle, Jerome, Uncle, Mike Kendall, Joe Black,

1398
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: like they all kept alive. Yeah, no, they also kept

1399
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: being live. It's just how I can look at a

1400
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: lot of people and tell they ain't got no friends,

1401
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: like Kanye ain't got no friends.

1402
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: No one's telling him to stop.

1403
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 4: No.

1404
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think to your point of what you and

1405
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: your donids were talking about earlier, Like that doctor that

1406
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: you were saying do this five times. In my head,

1407
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: I'd be like, he don't think I can do it?

1408
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: Fifteen Zach. I would almost turn him, like I remember,

1409
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: like not to make it. When I was in the

1410
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: I was in Nebraska making eighteen thousand a year and

1411
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: my friends were in New York in LA.

1412
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: I thought she was just getting ready to give me

1413
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: a Skip Bayless moment. Oh when I.

1414
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: Played average one point two points per game? No, no,

1415
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 2: but I was. I was there, and I would literally

1416
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: be in the gym every day, and I'd be like,

1417
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: they don't think I'm going to make it like they

1418
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: think that I'm going to be here the rest of

1419
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: my life and you and you. But then when I

1420
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: would see them, I'd have to like figure out a

1421
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: way to turn it off, because I did, because those

1422
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: were the like when you go see your doctor, don't

1423
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: be angry at your doctor.

1424
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: But I look at some of these athletes and I

1425
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: could tell how they grew up. If you don't grow

1426
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: up like that, it's not something you could just add.

1427
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: If you've always been the guy, No, if you've always

1428
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: been challenge and you got people pushing you, like I've

1429
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: always been underestimated. That's why I can always bounce back

1430
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: to greatness since this high. So I can look at

1431
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: a guy, I can tell where they're from, and I

1432
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: can tell how their parents raise them just by mental

1433
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: fortitude and mental toughness.

1434
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: And to give our guy a last that you can

1435
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: start that now, like you can just decide what I'm

1436
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: going to be that guy.

1437
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: Well, I may be wrong, but I don't think you can.

1438
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 2: Shack is saying that you can't, So youse shack is

1439
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: your motive.

1440
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: The kid, I'm sorry talking about the profession play Okay.

1441
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: Talk about this kid rehabbing from Oh yeah, no.

1442
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: He can do it, Yeah, he can do it. I

1443
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: thought you were talking about some of these guys making

1444
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: fifty sixty minutes. Yeah yeah, sorry kid, figure it out, kid,

1445
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: kid give up?

1446
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah that knee adury you're never gonna make Yeah no.

1447
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: But you know what that works? Yeah? No, Like my

1448
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: family always used that on me. Oh it always work

1449
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: like like I'd be practicing, but all right, come on, no,

1450
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: let's practice him up like you ain't gonna make it,

1451
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, please expect. No, you're not gonna make it.

1452
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: Then I to leave me alone for a week, and

1453
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: then when they see me out there doing it by myself,

1454
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: then they would come back. It just hit me.

1455
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 2: Damn Are you just real like you just had that traumatic?

1456
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that that works for me, Like like when

1457
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: you tell me I can't do something, I won't sleep

1458
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: until I get it done.

1459
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: I don't think you can dj us out of this episode.

1460
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: You know what, since I messed the mood up on

1461
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: a I'm gonna drop something because we need love. We do.

1462
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: I need love, so I'm gonna drop a freestyle I

1463
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: did shout out to lu Jazz said to my song

1464
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: on Rock the Bells, so I need love. I'm sorry, kid,

1465
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I gave you up and down the vice.

1466
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: But just keep your head up or you ain't gonna

1467
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: make it, whichever one you want to go to.

1468
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you all for tuning in checking out the

1469
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: Big Podcast with Shack. I'm Lefco. I want to give

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01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 2: a shout out our producer Shane, our guy Antoine behind

1471
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: the cameras making us look nice. Ian's going to be

1472
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: editing this together. Matt on the graphics, U d just

1473
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: coming through.

1474
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: Shout out you do.

1475
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: The first in studio guest in the Shah Hookah Lounce

1476
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: Shahoka Studios, Suh Hookah Studios. And I want to say

1477
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: now that we're wrapping up the year, I want to

1478
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: give a big shout out to you uh for for

1479
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: making my life great, always being a good friend, checking

1480
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: in on me as my family continues to row. And

1481
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: I would also say a credit to you for being

1482
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: as good as your reputation is sometimes you meet people

1483
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 2: and you go, man, they're kind of an asshole. Shack.

1484
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 2: You're a great guy, and so thank you for always

1485
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: bringing cheer. Thank you for always bringing love.

1486
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't believe you just said that, which part I

1487
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: don't want people to know, Bro, that.

1488
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: You're actually a good guy. I mean, other than the

1489
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: time that you spit in my face and your curse.

1490
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: No, no, you didn't do that. You wouldn't do that. Yeah,

1491
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: too far, strike that from the tape. But no, I

1492
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: want to also thank you for being my partner, being

1493
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: a party as well. Thanks Shane, Ken Dogg, my assistance.

1494
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: What's your name? I want to thank my good friend Brandon,

1495
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: what's your name? Christine, the mark of the lady behind

1496
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: the all Rihanna on the camera, and my boy Tony

1497
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: and put some base on you. But Tony not calling

1498
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: no other man Antoinas Tony, but no, just you know,

1499
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: for making it because this will be like and I

1500
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: don't care about rankings, but I'm gonna use that to motivate.

1501
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: I see the rankings that come out.

1502
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: So thank you to all the podcasts ahead of us

1503
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: for giving us motivation.

1504
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: That's it.

1505
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you're.

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01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: Screwed, but you're coming. We appreciate you, we're coming for you.

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Speaker 1: I want to do a Hot Daddy Thursday,