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Speaker 1: But and this for particular area, way down, way down.

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Speaker 1: What is justice? What is it? How is it different

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Speaker 1: than revenge? I don't know. I don't know. We talked about,

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Speaker 1: We talked about the Punisher in the total fictional superhero world.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest about something. He's the only one offering

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Speaker 1: real solutions. How many criminals are left in the world?

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Speaker 1: As long as we're doing weird superhero stuff today on

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Speaker 1: my birthday? How many criminals are left in the world?

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Speaker 1: You know what, forget about the world. Let's do a city,

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Speaker 1: New York City. How many criminals are left in New

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Speaker 1: York City? If Superman decides on his own, I am

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Speaker 1: going to grab and squash the head of every criminal

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Speaker 1: I see. I'm going to murder him, or I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: hold him there and burn off his eyes, burn out

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Speaker 1: his eyes, and kill him with my laser eyes. That's

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Speaker 1: how I'm gonna kill every criminal I find. No more arrests,

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Speaker 1: no more taking to jail, no more this. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: hunt down everybody, from petty pickpockets to murders. I will

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Speaker 1: find you, and I'm just gonna kill them all on

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Speaker 1: the spot, every one of them. That's horrible, right, that's horrible.

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Speaker 1: It's ugly. My goodness, I wouldn't want to live in

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Speaker 1: that city. What if you got what if he got

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Speaker 1: somebody wrong? You know, but how much longer does New

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Speaker 1: York have a crime problem after that? It's an interesting question,

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Speaker 1: isn't it, Because I don't know the answer to it.

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Speaker 1: But I know this societies groups of people. I'm not

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Speaker 1: necessarily talking about nations because I don't really consider us

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Speaker 1: one nation anymore. We're so balkanized and broken up. But societies,

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Speaker 1: groups of people, they will find a way to get

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Speaker 1: the justice they want, whether it's considered legal, whether it's

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Speaker 1: considered morally right, they will find a way to do so.

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Speaker 1: And here's something I struggle with a lot right now.

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Speaker 1: I talked about it earlier, and it's time to have

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Speaker 1: call in eight seven seven three seven seven four three

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Speaker 1: seven three. I want to live under a libertarian government.

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Speaker 1: It would be my ideal form of government. Leave me alone,

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Speaker 1: I leave you alone. There are obviously huge problems with

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Speaker 1: the Libertarian Party, mainly immigration. People think libertarianism can exist

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Speaker 1: without strict control of the borders, and it simply cannot.

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Speaker 1: That's the most naive thing I've ever heard in my life.

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Speaker 1: It's real pie in the sky stuff. Oh, our society

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Speaker 1: can absolutely remain free. Well, yes, of course we'll take

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Speaker 1: in those fifty thousand people who have no desire to

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Speaker 1: remain free. Are you an idiot? That's not how that

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Speaker 1: works at all. But anyway, be that isn't man, I

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Speaker 1: want to live under that government. I operate under a

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Speaker 1: small limited government mentality. However, aggressive steps, oftentimes bigger government,

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Speaker 1: stronger government, more forceful government steps must be taken in

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Speaker 1: the fight against communism, don't they. I'll explain in a second.

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Speaker 1: I'm not burnout, I'm not tired, I'm not exhausted. And

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Speaker 1: a mini controversy in Portland involving this. We have federal

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Speaker 1: agents in camouflags, uniforms, helmets and everything else driving up

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Speaker 1: in unmarked vands, grabbing Antifa members, these violent vandals Antifa

494
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Speaker 1: and chucking them in the back of vans and driving off.

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Speaker 1: Now it all shook out that they were processed, questioned

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Speaker 1: and released. The libertarian in me isn't great with it,

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Speaker 1: but that's a very small part of me when it

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Speaker 1: comes to this. Let me ask you where should they

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Speaker 1: have taken them in that van? Hang on, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: the ultimate hypothetically, what do you feel about those federal

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Speaker 1: agents chucking Antifa members in the back of a van

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Speaker 1: releasing them a couple hours later. You probably don't care

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Speaker 1: in a vacuum. Again, this is where I'm struggling right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm just describing to you what I'm struggling with in

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Speaker 1: a vacuum. I actually don't love it. In reality the

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Speaker 1: world we live in right now, I think they should

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Speaker 1: have chucked him in a different vehicle and chucked him

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Speaker 1: out something else. Is that too harsh? Is that wrong?

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Speaker 1: Is it morally wrong? Is it justice? Here's the truth

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Speaker 1: of the matter. And this is a fact. This is

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Speaker 1: not my opinion. We cannot Lazai fair mind my own business,

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Speaker 1: all do me? You do you our way out of

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Speaker 1: this communist insurrection we are currently experiencing in the United

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Speaker 1: States of America. It is not possible. And I am

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Speaker 1: not for one second sitting here saying you need to

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Speaker 1: set aside your small government, limited government conservatism, libertarianism, of

519
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: course not. That's where we want to go. That is

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Speaker 1: the goal. But here's the problem. Libertarianism can't content defeat communism.

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00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: It will lose to communism. So what's the other solution?

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00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: Something like nationalism, which sounds great. I'm all about closing

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Speaker 1: the borders. Problem with that too, everything has problems. Problem

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Speaker 1: with nationalism is it involves more big government. The problem, right,

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Speaker 1: the big problem. I mean, that's what we want. It's

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Speaker 1: not what we want big government. But what else are

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Speaker 1: we going to do to these people? I mean, Portland

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Speaker 1: won't do anything. Portland is openly allowing these people to

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Speaker 1: destroy Portland. Big cities are allowing these people to destroy

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Speaker 1: major US cities. Again, the federalist in me says that

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Speaker 1: your problem have fun ruined New York City. The American

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Speaker 1: in me says, New York City is an icon. We're

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Speaker 1: going to allow these dirty communists COUM to destroy a

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Speaker 1: wonderful American city. We cannot allow that. What do we do?

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Speaker 1: What is justice? What is right? What will happen? What

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Speaker 1: will happen? Well, here's what's going to happen. And I

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Speaker 1: don't have to guess because history tells me. So. What's

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00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: going to happen is this, unless we do something radical

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Speaker 1: and changing, we are we are going to sit and

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Speaker 1: let these people take, and let these people take, and

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Speaker 1: let these people take, and when these people are done,

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Speaker 1: when we are done letting them take it. What's going

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Speaker 1: to happen is we're going to choose somebody that you

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Speaker 1: and I should be very very afraid of, because he's

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Speaker 1: going to promise to finally fight back. People think Donald

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00:46:53,040 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: Trump was something outside of the norm, this vulgarian guy.

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Speaker 1: We voted for because we think he's a strong man

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Speaker 1: who's gonna take it to the left. Donald Trump is

549
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: a benign, relatively tasteless appetizer of what is to come

550
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: if this doesn't stop. As the leftists get more rabid

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00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: and more radical, there is going to be an answer

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00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: from the right that is more rabid and more radical,

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Speaker 1: and probably not possibly probably somebody who does things that

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Speaker 1: make you and I very, very uncomfortable. You remember we

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Speaker 1: did that episode on Chile last week. Shut up, Chris,

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Speaker 1: that's how you say it. Are you uncomfortable with Augusto

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Speaker 1: Pinochet picking up communists and throwing them out of helicopters?

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Speaker 1: Are you uncomfortable with it? I kind of hope you are.

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Speaker 1: You know, things like that are coming right someday. That's

560
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Speaker 1: not coming tomorrow. But if we don't get a hold

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00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: of this communist insurrection in America, of this plague of injustice,

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00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: then justice is going to come. Justice is going to

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Speaker 1: come in one form or another. It is, I promise

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Speaker 1: you it is, Because just like in that mining camp

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Speaker 1: in Montana. People will only put up with abuse for

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Speaker 1: so long until they eventually get their own form of justice.

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00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: They're going to choose somebody or something or somebody's who

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00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: will fight for them. And when they do that, when

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Speaker 1: that day comes. If we fail and that day comes,

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Speaker 1: we're a very very very bad man from the right

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Speaker 1: takes takes power. Who will fight the commies? You know

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Speaker 1: who will be to blame. It will be you and I.

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Speaker 1: We will be to blame because every weak need mealy

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Speaker 1: mouthed response we put out there today. All right, maybe

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Speaker 1: we should actually just take down they just take down

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Speaker 1: a couple conservative Confederate monuments. Are these don't make me comfortable?

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Speaker 1: But nothing else? You guys, are you street mobs? You're okay? Now? Oh?

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Speaker 1: You want more? Oh I'm shocked. I had no idea

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Speaker 1: you'd want more. Every capitulation, every bend of the knee

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Speaker 1: between now and the day that strong man rises, every

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Speaker 1: single one of those is the reason the strong man

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Speaker 1: will rise. I don't think this. I know this because

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Speaker 1: societies always seek a balance. The more radical the leftists

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Speaker 1: become and have become, the more violent the leftists have become,

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Speaker 1: there will be an answer from the right. And what

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you, the reason I brought it up earlier

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Speaker 1: not very for most of you. I would hope it

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Speaker 1: would be not very for most of you. We're talking

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Speaker 1: real lives here, we're talking life and death. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about ugly things. Look at these headlines, all these headlines

592
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Speaker 1: are They're all the same, all of them. Portland's Democrat

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Speaker 1: pardon Saint Louis couple if they're charged for brandishing guns

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Speaker 1: you see it, you see it happening, don't you You

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Speaker 1: But then the conservative governor will step in and and

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Speaker 1: came into it. That what, Chris, That was the day

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Speaker 1: I was born. It is my birthday to day. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying metals meadows signals in imminent indictment in Durham probe,

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Speaker 1: it's time for people to go to jail. Let's just

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Speaker 1: set this up again. I know you know this, but

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Speaker 1: let's set this up again. We are at a time

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Speaker 1: in America right now, especially with what we've seen in

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Speaker 1: the past few months. We have lawlessness everywhere. It's all

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Speaker 1: over the news, it's everywhere you look, allowed lawlessness. These

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Speaker 1: cities have told these people, they've told their police departments

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Speaker 1: to stand down. And what that has done, what that

644
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: has to do with all this Durham probe stuff is.

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Speaker 1: It is putting more and more in the minds of

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Speaker 1: the American public that there is no justice, that things

647
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Speaker 1: are lawless, and that is a dangerous thing. Now when

648
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Speaker 1: it comes to the probe, we have President Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: President Barack Obama, his FBI clearly, either under his direction

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Speaker 1: or with his direct knowledge, used fake information, completely fake

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Speaker 1: information from a foreign intelligence agent who was working for

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Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton campaign, created a dossier, took it to

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Speaker 1: the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who then took it to

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Speaker 1: a five succort and got a warrant to spy a

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Speaker 1: not only an American citizen who was innocent, but on

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Speaker 1: an American citizen who was his political opponent. That is

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Speaker 1: state police STAZI type stuff. It is. That is a

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Speaker 1: huge deal, the biggest political scandal in the history of

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Speaker 1: the United States of America by a mile. And I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, Mark Meadows, it's time for people to go

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Speaker 1: to jail. He says, I am sending this signal to Durham,

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Speaker 1: bar Republicans, Democrats, everybody in DC. Somebody better go to jail.

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Speaker 1: Somebody had better go to jail, because what you're seeing

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Speaker 1: right now is the American public losing faith and their

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Speaker 1: own government losing faith that there is such a thing

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Speaker 1: as justice. And when they get to that point, you

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00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: get to a point quickly. Well looks like Montana in

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Speaker 1: the eighteen sixties. It does, or worse. You had better

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Speaker 1: start sending signals to the American public that there is justice,

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Speaker 1: that the people in the inn crowd will be held accountable,

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00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: because if you do not, you are partially responsible for

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Speaker 1: what comes next. And what comes next never is good. Ever,

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Speaker 1: it's ugly, it's bad. I don't want it. I don't

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Speaker 1: want federal police grabbing people they don't like in throwing

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Speaker 1: them into unmarked vans. At the same time, federal police

676
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: better keep grabbing people they don't like in throwing them

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Speaker 1: into unmarked vans, because something has got to put down

678
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: this Commy insurrection now before it gets any worse, and

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00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: not just because of them, because of us, because the

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Speaker 1: longer we put off a legitimate answer to this, the worse.

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Speaker 1: Our answer has to be. Those roots, those COMI roots

682
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: are already very very very deep in the United States

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Speaker 1: of America. And that means right now, if we didn't,

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Speaker 1: if they didn't gain another inch of ground right now,

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Speaker 1: it would be extremely painful to root them out. I

686
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: think I use the word root too much. That's not important.

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Speaker 1: It's my birthday. How much deeper are you going to

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Speaker 1: allow them to go, because at some point in time

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Speaker 1: they can get so deep it'll kill you to root

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Speaker 1: them out. I'm struggling personally. I am struggling personally with

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Speaker 1: what I want from my government right now. And I

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Speaker 1: should clarify when I say I don't want federal agents

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Speaker 1: throwing people into unmarked vans. I'm saying that because I

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Speaker 1: know for a fact the leftists will turn around when

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Speaker 1: they gain power and start throwing you and me into

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Speaker 1: unmarked vans. I don't want government to have that power

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Speaker 1: at all. Now it turns out these things were totally justified.

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Speaker 1: These were people threatening vandalizing federal buildings, so they were

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Speaker 1: being detained for that. If you can't tell, the shows

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Speaker 1: recently should be a pretty good indicator to you. I'm

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Speaker 1: very worried that we're already past the point or rapidly

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Speaker 1: getting a point. We're solving our COMMI insurgency problem is

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Speaker 1: going to involve doing things that I don't ever want

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Speaker 1: to have to do, and I don't want you to

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Speaker 1: have to do and I don't want to have to

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Speaker 1: read about it in the papers. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: have to watch it on the news. I don't won't

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Speaker 1: want that. I just want to live in peace and

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Speaker 1: be left alone. That's all I want. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm going to get what I want, though, And

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Speaker 1: that sucks because these people are not backing off. They're

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Speaker 1: not getting shire, they're not losing their motivation, they're not

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Speaker 1: backing off, and they're not going to back off. And

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Speaker 1: the problem is there's no history. And you know how

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Speaker 1: much I love it, and you know we study it

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Speaker 1: all the time, there is no history in communism, zero, none,

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Speaker 1: zilch that has them backing off without being forced to

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Speaker 1: back off. Are you comfortable with communism? I'm assuming the

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Speaker 1: answer to that is pretty much universally no. So let

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Speaker 1: me ask you, are you comfortable with a solution to communism?

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Speaker 1: You know who? You know who defeated communism? Right, wasn't

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Speaker 1: just Pinochet, but who defeated communism in his own country?

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Speaker 1: You know, Adolf Hitler did got a lot more uncomfortable now,

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Speaker 1: didn't it. I don't think we need to model ourselves

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Speaker 1: after the anti Christ, but it didn't do it nicely either,

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Speaker 1: And these examples are ugly in their tyrannical in their murder.

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Speaker 1: I'm all ears for another way. I want another way.

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Speaker 1: I'm desperate for another way. So somebody tell me what

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Speaker 1: the other way is. When they own all of it,

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Speaker 1: half of one of the half of the two political parties,

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Speaker 1: the media system, the entire university system, the entire entertainment system,

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Speaker 1: over ninety percent of the federal government, over ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of the federal government, that is deeply rooted, firmly entrenched.

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Speaker 1: How do we stop this madness? How do we get

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Speaker 1: these people out? And how do we do it the

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Speaker 1: right way? Because that's what we want, right, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: I am EBB. Sleep targets the root cause of the

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Speaker 1: reason you can't sleep. It's the thoughts, right, trust me,

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Speaker 1: I don't I go through it. You lay down and

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Speaker 1: those racing thoughts just start churning through your head. You

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Speaker 1: can't seem to turn them off. You're worried about the

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Speaker 1: day you have, the day you're gonna have, or maybe

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Speaker 1: it's not even worried, maybe you're just excited. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: get that way, had a great day, laydown, can't sleep.

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Speaker 1: Those days are gone for me now. Ebb Sleep is

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Speaker 1: a wearable device. You put it on, it provides precise,

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Speaker 1: continuous cooling to your forehead, putting you asleep faster and

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Speaker 1: keeping you asleep. And you can try at risk free

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Speaker 1: for sixty days. Six days. Man, that's an incredible amount

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Speaker 1: of confidence in your product. That's how much this thing works.

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Speaker 1: every Monday, at this time moment. Today it's my birthday.

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Speaker 1: Michael Malice, host of You're Welcome, I apparently can't pull

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Speaker 1: up the phone out there. He is Michael Malice, host

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Speaker 1: of You're Welcome. Michael, what do you think about federal

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Speaker 1: police grabbing Antifa people in Portland and throwing them into vans?

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Speaker 1: I'm struck today. Well, I mean, at a certain point

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Speaker 1: when you challenge this is how happened in Britain with

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Speaker 1: the labor unions and Margaret Thatcher. Right, at a certain point,

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Speaker 1: if you challenge the law, the authority, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a game of chicken, right, and someone's going to

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Speaker 1: have to blink. My friend, I'm going to put on

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Speaker 1: my tinfoil hat watch that video, and he thought it

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Speaker 1: was an extraction of an undercover officer because there was

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Speaker 1: so little resistance that it seemed a little bit suspicious.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but yeah, no one in

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Speaker 1: America is comfortable seeing as fellow citizen, no matter how

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Speaker 1: little you think of them, just being seized and taken

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Speaker 1: away just visually. It's very disturbing, Michael. I've been struggling

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Speaker 1: with this today. I obviously would like to live under

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Speaker 1: a very tiny libertarian ish government that would be mine,

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Speaker 1: my own business. Government tells me nothing type thing. You

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Speaker 1: cannot live under that government while the Communies are still

776
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: around in your nation, and that kind of thinking that

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01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, live and let live way of thinking will

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Speaker 1: not defeat communism. It cannot. In fact, the only times

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Speaker 1: communism have been defeated have been through ugly means, to

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Speaker 1: put it mildly, what's the solution. I don't think anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with anything you just said. First of all,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you're saying real libertarianism has never been tried.

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Speaker 1: The idea of a small government that minds its own

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Speaker 1: business is not only impossible, it's an oxymoron. If it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a government, it's going to be making

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Speaker 1: a point of minding everyone's business. And I think the

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Speaker 1: victory of Communism, which is something I'm going to talk

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Speaker 1: over Communism, which is something I'm going to talk about

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Speaker 1: my next book, is one of the great right wing accomplishments.

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Speaker 1: And it was done through beautiful means, Ugly means, necessary means.

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Speaker 1: Was how we defeated the Nazis, was how we defeated

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Speaker 1: the Kaiser in World War One. War is bloody, hideous.

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01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: It means orphans, It means people being deformed and named.

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Speaker 1: Whereas this is the faltest Soviet Union was done diplomatically,

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Speaker 1: peacefully and without having to, you know, lose lives. Why

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Speaker 1: would you Why do you say if it was an

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Speaker 1: ugly victory, I don't. I don't consider the fall of

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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union in any way a collapse really of communism.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about it here, that's really talk about I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about it. Yeah, I'm talking about the way Pinochet

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Speaker 1: defeated it. I'm talking about the way, dare I say it,

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Speaker 1: the anti Christ of history Hitler defeated it. It's always

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Speaker 1: violent and ugly and horrible, and it puts people in

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Speaker 1: charge who have no business being in charge. But people

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Speaker 1: are going to find an anti communist, aren't they. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I see, you're saying, yea, the Pino shet. Keep in

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Speaker 1: mind what he did. He took up three thousand people,

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Speaker 1: which compared to the numbers of the communists take out

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Speaker 1: is absolutely minusculeo his metrocities when he was in office,

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Speaker 1: there's something that happened to be acknowledged and reckoned with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're not going down without a fight. These people have

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Speaker 1: been entrenched in these institutions for decades. This is the

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Speaker 1: only thing that matters them psychologically and in terms of status.

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Speaker 1: So when you have, you know, some kind of tree

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Speaker 1: that shinks its roots into an area and is ensconced

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Speaker 1: there for a long period of time, and knowing, ay,

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Speaker 1: the tree can't lift somebody somewhere else and be that

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: it's you know, been there very deep and kind of

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Speaker 1: sinking its roots into the soil. How do you get

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Speaker 1: rid of it peacefully and easily. It's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: There's nowhere else for these people to go. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be very, very ugly, And the most

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Speaker 1: important thing is I want people to appreciate they don't

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01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 1: value your life at all. They want you dead, but

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Speaker 1: will settle for your submission. And we see it how

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Speaker 1: easily they denigrate and mock your children who have values

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Speaker 1: that are different from their own. You see with Nicholas Staman.

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Speaker 1: You saw it with those Citadel cadets who are playing

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Speaker 1: the circle game, and the headlines were accusing them of

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Speaker 1: being clansmen, white supremacists. They don't. And you see it

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Speaker 1: how all these teaches unions talk about your children as

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Speaker 1: basically being their property and regarding themselves as having a

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Speaker 1: prior right to the kids as opposed to parents. So, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you completely. There's no way this is

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Speaker 1: going to be easy or nice. The Soviet Union in

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Speaker 1: a sense with a cake lock, because Mikhail Gorbachov wasn't

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Speaker 1: a violent person in the se and as crazy in

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Speaker 1: some ways as these techs are, then what do we do?

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Speaker 1: How do we wrap our minds around that? Michael, Because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to just say American people in general

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Speaker 1: really are peaceful. They don't have a desire for violence

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Speaker 1: for the most part. They don't have a desire to

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Speaker 1: do the necessary things. So how hard does it have

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Speaker 1: to get before people do things that are ugly? And

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Speaker 1: I don't want that either, you know, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: this all to be peaceful. I wanted all the communies

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Speaker 1: to go away. Yeah, I think I just tweeted this

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Speaker 1: out yesterday. I think one of the big steps is

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Speaker 1: denigration and and humiliation. So one big major victory is

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Speaker 1: going to be when The New York Times, for example,

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Speaker 1: is perceived perceived as analogous to Fox News. Right, people

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Speaker 1: in the middle of people on the left take Fox

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Speaker 1: News with a grain of salt. They think it's has

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Speaker 1: a conservative perspective, which it does. They think it's entertainment oriented,

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Speaker 1: which it is, and more power to it. When you

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Speaker 1: see that the New York Times's effectively the same thing,

857
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Speaker 1: it loses its cache, and it loses its sense of

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Speaker 1: objectivity as an arbiter of truth. And once that happens,

859
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Speaker 1: things will move and other institutions like that. People have

860
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: far more issue with CNN and MSNBC because MSNBC presents

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Speaker 1: itself as having a left of center perspective. To put

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Speaker 1: it modeley, CNN presents itself as objective and we're in airports,

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Speaker 1: So that dishonesty is a big issue of why people

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Speaker 1: have these kind of you know, we're going to have

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Speaker 1: to get to violence because you cannot have a discussion

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Speaker 1: of any kind with someone who is disingenuous. There's no

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Speaker 1: real point. What's it like in Russia now, because you

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier and that's something you would know, really well,

869
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Speaker 1: what is it genuinely like there? Is it a dictatorship?

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Speaker 1: Is there still communism all over the place? Is it

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Speaker 1: kind of free? Kind of not? What is it? I

872
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: think kind of free, kind of not. I think what

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Speaker 1: Americans don't appreciate is that Putin is extremely popular with

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Speaker 1: the Russian people. But I mean, yes, he takes out

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Speaker 1: his political opponents, but it's nothing akin to let the

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Speaker 1: post North Korea or Venezuela. They do have democratic election

877
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Speaker 1: to numbers are very high because what he gives the

878
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: Russian people is this throwback to when the Soviet Union

879
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: was a world power and when the Soviet Union was important.

880
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: And you know, people are taught dishonestly by the corporate

881
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: press in this country that the populations around the world

882
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: all basically feel the same thing. They all have the

883
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Speaker 1: same liberal values, They all want to watch modern family

884
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Speaker 1: and march and pride. That is not the case. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Soviet value the rescuse me, the Russian

886
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Speaker 1: values are very different in many ways from American values,

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Speaker 1: and in some sense they have amount of disdain for

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Speaker 1: things that we regard as admirable, and that is not

889
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: to their credit in my opinion. I've actually had this

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: thought a million times over. I've said this publicly, that

891
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: that we always talk about, like we look at a

892
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Speaker 1: place in the Middle East, you know, a Muslim country

893
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Speaker 1: where women are all covered and men are beating them

894
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Speaker 1: and they're throwing gays off for rooftops and things like that,

895
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: and we look and we talk about how horrible that

896
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Speaker 1: is and how we how that's just what they need

897
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Speaker 1: is freedom. And then we see the things that take place,

898
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Speaker 1: like you just mentioned that one of these pride parades

899
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Speaker 1: where everyone's half naked with the boa on, and I

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Speaker 1: say to people, what do you think they think when

901
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: they look at us? Yeah, that's exactly the case. So

902
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Speaker 1: there was someone who was on Fox a few years

903
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Speaker 1: ago who made the tongue in cheek comparison that yoga

904
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Speaker 1: pants led to isis so yeah, And but the other

905
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Speaker 1: thing it's hilarious is as the gay rights movement has

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Speaker 1: become institutionalized, and I even had this tweet I said,

907
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: only corporate America can make perversion seem boring and so,

908
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: but now that it's becomes the mainstream in this kind

909
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: of modern family thing, the people who are on the fringes,

910
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,520
Speaker 1: the people who really were edgy, they're being thrown overboard

911
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Speaker 1: by the mainstream gay population. And in some sense, it's

912
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Speaker 1: kind of like goes back to any minority group where

913
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Speaker 1: you have the group that's made it. You've seen it

914
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Speaker 1: with the black population America. You've seen the Jewish population

915
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Speaker 1: of America. But the people who are on the margins

916
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: are like, oh, it's them, They're not us, you know,

917
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: We're the good guys, were the norms. So it's an

918
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic to observe how it does a cultural revolution happen.

919
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: The other way, is that something that actually happens in

920
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Speaker 1: a nation? Because I look at history all the time

921
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Speaker 1: and I don't see much of that. I mean, do

922
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Speaker 1: we go back to a different time or are we

923
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: only backslide until we crumble? I am hoping, and I

924
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of evidence towards this, and I'm

925
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: sure you and the listeners can think of fuenty that

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Speaker 1: this is Britain nineteen seventy nine, because Britain in nineteen

927
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Speaker 1: seventy nine the British Empire was over. True, it was

928
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Speaker 1: never going to regain its prominence, and we were told

929
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Speaker 1: the people. Michael Bell, sorry, brother, I went up against

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Speaker 1: the brake. That's my bad man. I appreciate you talk

931
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Speaker 1: to somebody you saw I squeezed in a happy birthday,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly. Finally got my new earbuds in, my new

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Speaker 1: Raycon earbuds. I should say. Now when I say new,

934
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Speaker 1: keep in mind that's because my wife stole the other

935
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Speaker 1: ones I had. She doesn't even use earbuds, or I

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Speaker 1: should say didn't even use earbuds until she stole my

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Speaker 1: Raycon earbuds. I had just gotten put them in one

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Speaker 1: day because she was listening something around a house and

939
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Speaker 1: never gave them back. Now she uses earbuds why because

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Speaker 1: she tried Raycon for the first time, so she stole mine.

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Speaker 1: They are that good, The sound is that good. They're

942
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Speaker 1: that isn't on your ears. There's no big wires sticking out.

943
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Speaker 1: They're not these huge gaudy things. They're just nothing but quality.

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Speaker 1: Highly highly recommend you go grab some today. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: can get you fifteen percent off your order if you

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Speaker 1: go to buy Raycon dot com slash Jesse that's by

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Speaker 1: Raycon dot com slash Jesse. That's fifteen percent off your order. Oh.

948
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Speaker 1: It's getting interesting in spicy now, isn't it. On my birthday,

949
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Speaker 1: Chris asked me, Well, so you don't want to kill

950
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,879
Speaker 1: the commies, what do you want to do with them?

951
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: And this is where I'm at? And then can this

952
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: gets uncomfortable too? We're just talking about a new nation

953
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: once we get all broken up here and we complete

954
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Speaker 1: the American divorce in my nation, and I think we

955
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: all know I'm going to be the one leading it

956
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: in my nation. We're going to deport people a lot.

957
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: And see, this is where it gets a little dicey,

958
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: doesn't it. We're going to deport citizens. Chris asked, where

959
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: do you deport someone who's only ever lived here? You

960
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 1: have trade agreements with other countries. Part of those trade

961
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: agreements is they have to accept so many dirt balls

962
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 1: a year from the Republic of Jesse. And the Republic

963
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 1: of Jesse has every right to deport people over there.

964
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: And that's just how we're gonna do things in the

965
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: Republic of Jesse. And I'm not even close to kidding.

966
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: And I'm talking citizens too. You think we're gonna do

967
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,759
Speaker 1: poorto legal immigrants? Oh gosh, that was just the start.

968
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're deporting them to a lot birthright citizenship

969
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: and nope, gotta earn it. Everybody gets to vote and

970
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: absolutely not. This will just be property owners. But Chris

971
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: asked the ultimate question, and boy, it's gonna get interesting now.

972
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 1: Chris asked, what about the freedom of the press. Again,

973
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Speaker 1: I'm having some struggles. I am the ultimate freedom, this

974
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,799
Speaker 1: freedom that freedom of the press, can't have the government

975
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: involved in it. I'm all about that. Oh about that,

976
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: But do you think the media and the United States

977
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: of America our free press? Do you think that's good

978
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: for the United States of America? Okay, so every single

979
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: one of you just said no, I know you did.

980
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: Is our current media as it stands? Is it good

981
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: for the United States? The answers no, everyone knows that.

982
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: So if it's not good, why would the Republic of

983
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: Jesse allow it? Right? What do you do about? Look,

984
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: as long as we're going down the list here, and

985
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: it's turning into a dictatorship quickly, isn't it. I'm losing

986
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,560
Speaker 1: that libertarian government quickly, all right, by all these freedoms.

987
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: I had a what's his name, Robert Davy. He's an actor.

988
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: You can see him. He's an actor. I had Robert

989
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: Davy on my TV show last week and he said

990
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: something point to hit home to me. He said, you know,

991
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: our TV shows are movies. They used to show all

992
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: of them, husband, wife, good home kids. They celebrated the family,

993
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: all of them. You remember when you were kids. I

994
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: did the same thing when I were kids. When I

995
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: was a kid. My folks, you know, they get together

996
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: with some people. Maybe let you watch TV on Friday night.

997
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: What did you watch? We watched Family Matters. You know

998
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 1: they guy the sergeant Al Powell from die Hard, and

999
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: the wife and the kids and don't through life struggles

1000
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: but the family. He said, that was an important part

1001
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: of America's social fabric. Kids grew up looking at that

1002
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: and aspired to be that. What do they look at now? Now?

1003
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: Let me go back again to freedom of the press.

1004
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 1: What do I want? What do I want? The entertainment

1005
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: industry and the Republic of Jesse to do. How much

1006
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: control should I have? My answer would be zero with

1007
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: what I believe right at the same time, do I

1008
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: believe the filth out there in America right now is

1009
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: beneficial for our society? Of course, not not even close.

1010
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: Getting interesting, isn't it? And what you want? And what's

1011
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: happening as we go down the list here, I mean,

1012
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: go down the list of amendments. As we go down

1013
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: the list here, how many do you like? You? I

1014
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 1: like having this freedom. I want this freedom, freedom, this

1015
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: freedom that until you find out you might be the

1016
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: one getting able to control it, and then that freedom

1017
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: gets less appealing, doesn't it? And isn't that the nature

1018
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: of man? How many stories have we told here? But

1019
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: it gets interesting? But the freedom of the press, when

1020
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: I really find interesting. Who in the world would ever

1021
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: want a dirt ball propagandized state run media. Nobody, right,

1022
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that. Who wants the government to control

1023
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: the media? Government sucks at everything. But people can yell

1024
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: all day long about Donald Trump calling the American media

1025
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,799
Speaker 1: the end of the people, the enemy of the people.

1026
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Speaker 1: Even if you think that's too far, you certainly agree

1027
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Speaker 1: they're not a benefit. They're a negative. Oh, getting tyrannical

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Speaker 1: When you finally land on one, it just seems so

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Speaker 1: because you convince yourself that you're going to do the

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Speaker 1: right thing right, well, I mean, what in Republic of

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01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: Jesse when Jesse's in charge? Oh, wait, I just went

1048
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Speaker 1: third person. That was sweet. When Jesse's in charge, we're

1049
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: gonna deport the commies and the hippies and the feminists

1050
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: and women who wear flats and probably some Italians, and

1051
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: we're not gonna have freedom of the press. But the

1052
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Speaker 1: government's not going to control it either. It's complicated, but

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Speaker 1: I know this. I am Jesse Kelly, and I will

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Speaker 1: not abuse my power. Once I am given all all

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Speaker 1: the power in the nation and I have complete freedom

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Speaker 1: to do whatever I want, I will not abuse it. Right.

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Speaker 1: I know you've thought that yourself. I should just be

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Speaker 1: in charge. Really, maybe it's time we think about that

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01:24:23,960 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: for a second. Hang on the Jesse Kelly Show. This

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01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show. Chris has an issue with

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Speaker 1: my only property owners can vote thing. He thinks it

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Speaker 1: should be only people who pay into the system. Now,

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Speaker 1: let me clarify, I'm actually not married to the only

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Speaker 1: property owners thing. But I am absolutely married to this.

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Speaker 1: And oh, it's about to get uncomfortable, So buckle up.

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Speaker 1: I am married to voting being much much, much more

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Speaker 1: exclusive than it is now, and people get so uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: with that. You know, that's what your nation was founded on. Right.

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Speaker 1: At no point did the founding fathers think each and

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01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: every individual in America should get a vote. They would

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01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: have laughed in your face if you had brought that

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Speaker 1: up to them. Democracy, republic, whatever you want to call it,

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01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: it ain't going to exist for very long if you

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Speaker 1: let all of your dirt balls have a say in

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Speaker 1: picking the government. Period compulsory voting, No, I do not

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Speaker 1: voluntary but exclusive. Why is it exclusive, Jesse. You can't

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Speaker 1: do that, Jesse. That's so mean. One, I can do

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Speaker 1: whatever I want. It's the Republic of Jesse. Two, I

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01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: am mean. Three you love mean when it comes to

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01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 1: things you care about. As I've said a million times over,

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Speaker 1: some dirt ball looking dude knocks on your front door

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01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 1: tonight while you're sitting down with the fam having dinner

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01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: and says to come in and eat dinner with you

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01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 1: and sit on your couch and hang out with your kids.

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01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: You're going to say, no, Slam, why why are you

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01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: being mean? And you would say back to me, I'm

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01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: not being mean. I just care about my family. Yes,

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01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: you have standards, strict standards for everything in your life

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01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: that you actually care about. It's the ultimate tell. And

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01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: I go through the same thing too, and fail all

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01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 1: the time at this a million different ways. Of course.

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01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: I care about my health. Don't tell me I don't

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01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: care about my health. I work out. I care about

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01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: my health. I care about my health. I care about

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01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: my health. I had fast food twice yesterday. My wife

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01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: existed on pine nuts and lettuce and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: That person cares about their health. I care a little.

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01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 1: I don't care enough to stop eating cheeseburgers. Don't tell

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01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: me how much you care. Show me how much you

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01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: care about something. Right, who gets to vote? I'll put

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01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: it to you this way. I don't know who all

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01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: gets to vote, but it ain't gonna be everybody. I

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01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: don't have any any desire to let everybody vote, not

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Speaker 1: at all. You don't want everybody in your home. You

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01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: don't want everybody in your kids' school. And you know

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01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: it's amazing, and this is a fact. And I can

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01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: tell you this because I've been through every one of

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01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 1: these levels of life. When you are I don't know

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01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: if you want to call it poor, because we really

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01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: struggle with what poor actually is here in America. But

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01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: when you're not making it, you look at the big

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01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: fancy what do you want to call golf club or

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01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: nightclub or whatever club it is? As you drive by,

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01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: charging a hundred bucks ahead, unless you're a hot chick,

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01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: then you come in free. But whatever charging their hundred

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01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: bucks ahead, or you have to be a member. And

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01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: you think to yourself, those elitist scumbags. Everybody should be

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01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: allowed in there. I want to go play golf on

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01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: that because that looks like a beautiful golf course. Oh

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Speaker 1: that nightclub, man, I want to go that. Look at

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01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 1: those chicks, man, what of those rich guys have the diner?

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01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: They should let everybody in right up until the point

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Speaker 1: where you can afford to get there, right up to

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Speaker 1: the point where you can afford to in that golf club.

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Speaker 1: And then you know what you're saying, Oh gosh, we're

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01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 1: not gonna let that guy in. Come on, well, how

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01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: can we let that guy in? I paid good money.

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Speaker 1: I paid good money to be here. We're not letting

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01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: everybody in again. You have standards for the things you

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01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 1: care about. When you don't care about something, that's when

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01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: you think everybody should be allowed in. Oh, anyone should

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01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: be allowed to immigrate to America. Then you don't care

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01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 1: about America. You care about looking nice to your friends,

1134
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: you care about concepts like that. But America's a treasure.

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01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: You're blessed to be here. Anybody should be allowed to come.

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Speaker 1: Chris that I were talking off air about various nationalities

1137
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: and religions when it comes to the Republic of Jesse,

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01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: and he was asking, where are you letting these people in?

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01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: Are you letting these people in? And my answer, for

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01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: the most part was no. And he's cringing, of course,

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01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: But again I told him, it's not that I have

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01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 1: anything against those people, were that people were this it's

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01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: my nation. I'm allowed to have standards for it, strict

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01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 1: standards for it, and it's not whether or not I

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01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: should be. So this is what's happened. We've ruined our

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01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: mindset here in America, where we think the default should be, oh,

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01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: come on in, the default answer is always no. You

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01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: prove to me why you are going to be a

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01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 1: benefit to my country. You're the one who wants to

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01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: come into my home. I don't have to explain to

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01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: you why you're not allowed. You're not allowed because I

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01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: don't think you're going to be a benefit. I don't

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01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: care that you won't be a negative. I don't think

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01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: you're going to improve things. And it's your job, as

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01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 1: someone who wants to come into my home to explain

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01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: to me specifically how you're going to improve things or

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01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,719
Speaker 1: you're not coming in. Ah, but you should, you should,

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01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 1: but you have to. No, I don't. And you know

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01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 1: what's wild. What I'm explaining to you right now sounds radical,

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01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: and it sounds nuts, and it sounds extreme, and it's

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01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: even sounds harsh to some people. I know it. Well,

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01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: oh that's too harsh. What I'm describing to you is

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Speaker 1: how nations have done their business throughout the history of

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01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: the world, virtually everything prior to this insane age. That's

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01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 1: how you did your business. Are you going to help?

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01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: Are you not going to help? I don't have to

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01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: explain to you why you can't come in. You can't

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01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: come in because you don't want me, because I don't

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01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: want you to. You explain to me what are you

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01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 1: going to do for me? Period? Period gets interesting, though,

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01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: doesn't It gets a lot more uncomfortable, doesn't it? Isn't

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01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: it the deportations thing? I know, I know that made

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01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: you uncomfortable. But let me ask you something you have.

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01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Let's just call it a university professor universities in the

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01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:55,799
Speaker 1: Republic of Jesse. We'll call this university Barbared. Let's say

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01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: at this university there's a professor. Now, he's a city

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01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 1: sin in the Republic of Jesse. He was born there.

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01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: This professor teaches his students openly every single day that

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01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: the Republic of Jesse is an evil place, that it

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01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: was founded on evil. It is evil and it should

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01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 1: be brought down. I can't remove that guy from the

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01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 1: Republic of Jesse as a threat to the state. Should

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01:34:28,280 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: I remove that guy? I am? It is time for

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01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: you to get a home security system. You have to

1185
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: stop putting this off. I'm not trying to scare you,

1186
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: but look around you at the world we live in now.

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01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: It is getting more dangerous. There's just no other way

1188
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 1: to put it. And if you think all this craziness

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01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: is going to stay inside of these big cities forever,

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01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: you've got another thing coming. It's not. It doesn't work

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01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: that way. Crime waves don't work that way. It could

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01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: easily come to your home. You need simply safe now,

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01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: and they couldn't possibly make it any easier for you.

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01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: Go to simply safe dot com slash Jesse pick out

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01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 1: what you want, They send it to you, You open it,

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01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: you put the sensors out, you plug them in, and

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01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: you are protected, professionally monitored twenty four hours a day,

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01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: seven days a week. Simply safe dot com slash Jesse

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly returns next. It should be noted I really

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01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: need to start doing more planning for the show. We're

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01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: going to start tomorrow. Chris actually planning. But it should

1202
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: be noted I had no earthly idea that I was

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01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: going to be talking about this today. I have no

1204
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: idea how we got sidetracked on something like this today,

1205
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 1: But here we are. Chris brought up a very interesting question.

1206
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: We're about to find out what kind of liberty lover

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01:36:53,080 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 1: you are. Chris brought up weapons, what's allowed, what's not allowed? Now,

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01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: Chris is pretty libertarian, dude. Chris is all game. And

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01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 1: then he brings up, you know, RPGs and things like that, explosives,

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01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: to which I said, well, yeah, that's fine, and Chris

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01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 1: thinks that's way too far. Maybe it is too far,

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01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: but I want you to pause for a moment and

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01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 1: think about the kind of society as a whole, the

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01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Republic of Jesse would actually be if regular people had

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01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:53,799
Speaker 1: access to these things. Now understand this, There are huts

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01:37:53,880 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan with a fully loaded AK forty seven leaning

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01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: against the wall by the door and a three year

1218
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 1: old toddler running around the hut. Societies adjust themselves to

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01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 1: the weapons that exist in that society. How many people

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01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 1: would even choose to own those things? But not that

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01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: that's any of your business or mine. Don't you think

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01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: there'd be safety courses everywhere? Don't you think people would

1223
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: be a lot more polite? How much violent crime do

1224
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 1: you think exists in the Republic of Jesse when anyone

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01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 1: can own anything? How comfortable are you with you see

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01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: all this gang violence out there now? And that's what

1227
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: you see some watch up on TV. Somebody outnumbered, one

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01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: of these ANTIFA or Black Lives Matter scumbags ganging up

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01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: on somebody. How comfortable are they ganging up on somebody?

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01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:17,480
Speaker 1: If say he's walking around with a fully equipped equipped

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01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: a R fifteen or M four or saw, that's a squad.

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01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 1: That's a squad, automatic weapon, belt fed even if you

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01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: want to hurt that person, do you even bother? Do

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01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 1: you even bother? Gets real interesting, doesn't it? I do

1235
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 1: have to pring up something getting a little sidetracked here.

1236
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: So I know somebody who bought a house over the

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01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 1: weekend in Montana paid a fortune for it. But get this, Chris,

1238
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: the realtor, this person's talking to the real estate market's

1239
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:13,959
Speaker 1: so insane right now. In Montana, they had nineteen bids

1240
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: on one home. Not an auction home, the home was listed.

1241
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:22,759
Speaker 1: They had nineteen bids. I got to experience this once

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01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 1: in a suburb of Dallas when we were moving from Frisco, Texas,

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01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 1: down here to the Houston area where we put our

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01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 1: home on the market, and the night it went on

1245
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:33,600
Speaker 1: the market at midnight, we had I think three or

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01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: four bids, which was absurd. I bought and sold houses

1247
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 1: my whole life, and these all the bids were at

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01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: or above asking price. So I mean, you're asking two

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01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: hundred for it, They're like, I'll give you two twenty.

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01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 1: You're like, whoa nineteen on one home. There are homes

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01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 1: right now, lots of them selling in Montana for over

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01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars a square foot. I almost fell out

1253
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 1: of my chair and I heard that. And this is

1254
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: the most amazing part, this realtors laying it all out.

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01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: They're all selling to New Yorkers or Californians, and they're

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01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:18,600
Speaker 1: selling oftentimes this part, I act, this part absolutely floored me.

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01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 1: Oftentimes they're selling sight unseen. Buying a home is hard enough.

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01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: I because I've I've bought and sold so many. I'm

1259
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 1: emphatic about finding out certain things. But it's impossible when

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01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: you can't see it. You can't drive the neighborhood, you

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Speaker 1: don't know what's around it, you don't know any you

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Speaker 1: don't know anything from the pictures. They're buying four or five, six,

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Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand dollars homes without ever seeing them in

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Speaker 1: person first. And I get these stories now because that

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Speaker 1: says something about this yesterday on social media, and I'm

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Speaker 1: getting these stories from all over the country in these

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Speaker 1: various rural areas, and it actually gave me a little

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Speaker 1: bit of hope. Here's why what if? And I realize

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Speaker 1: this maybe pine the sky thinking what if all this

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Speaker 1: ugliness right now is prompting a complete reordering of America?

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is this we are

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Speaker 1: as a nation. It is undeniable, extremely balkanized, especially between

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Speaker 1: the hardcore leftist urban centers, which all the urban centers

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Speaker 1: are leftists now and the blood red rest of the country,

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Speaker 1: which most of the country that isn't urban is blood red.

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Speaker 1: That's just how it is. And that's gotten worse, and

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Speaker 1: it's gotten worse, and it's gotten worse is the leftist

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Speaker 1: pour into the city and everybody with the right train

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Speaker 1: of thoughts fleeing the cities. It's getting worse, right, well,

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Speaker 1: the cities turning into absolute nuclear wasteland hellholes under this

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Speaker 1: leftist leadership. They're defunding the cops, the crooks are taking over.

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Speaker 1: What if this is a great way to bring America

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Speaker 1: back together again, Because here's what's going to happen, at

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Speaker 1: least somewhat. They're going to flee these cities. Lots of

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Speaker 1: people are going to flee these cities. These cities are

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Speaker 1: going to become Oh it's going to be so bad,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be so so bad. But eventually the

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Speaker 1: pendulum swings. These cities are going to turn. Even if

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Speaker 1: they're not Republican, which they maybe, they're going to turn

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Speaker 1: to law and order mayors and city councilmen to bring

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Speaker 1: a great deal of order back to the cities. Well,

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Speaker 1: the cities vacated a lot of people to the country,

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Speaker 1: the cities get safe again, maybe a lot of people

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Speaker 1: on the rights start dipping their toe back in the

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Speaker 1: water to live in a city. And what's wrong with

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Speaker 1: living in a city? Man? People dog on cities all

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Speaker 1: the time, But the reason all of us don't live

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Speaker 1: there is mainly safety, isn't it. I mean, I like

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Speaker 1: space and comfort, so it's not like I have a

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Speaker 1: great desire to live in one. But if you told

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Speaker 1: me the skyscrapers I'm looking at right beside me were

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Speaker 1: totally safe and totally affordable, and my family could go

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Speaker 1: run around and all that other stuff totally safe, I

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Speaker 1: would I mean, I don't know that i'd move out

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Speaker 1: of my place, but I certainly wouldn't argue about moving

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Speaker 1: into one. People get out of the cities because they're

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Speaker 1: thought to be immoral, unsafe hellholes, which in many cases

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Speaker 1: they are. So what if this brings us back together

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Speaker 1: again in a funny way, we vacate the big cities,

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Speaker 1: leave the big cities to the animals for a while.

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Speaker 1: People want their city turned around. They vote for law

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Speaker 1: and order. The cities get more law and order. The

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Speaker 1: countryside well. The people whom out move out to the

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Speaker 1: rural areas, maybe they start waking up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Remember Selena Zito comes on the show all the time

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Speaker 1: and she says, that's the main difference is where you live.

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Speaker 1: Hang on, I found a great new podcast. Don't worry,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about it on the show. But

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Speaker 1: guess how I listened to it all weekend long. Actually

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Speaker 1: got me in trouble a couple of times because I'm

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Speaker 1: walking around with my Raycon earbuds in and I was

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Speaker 1: just I was getting stuff done around the house. I

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Speaker 1: was working on something for my smoker, and the wife

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Speaker 1: is talking to me, and I didn't realize it because

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Speaker 1: she couldn't see the earbuds. Now you can see them

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Speaker 1: when you get closer, but she was across the house

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Speaker 1: and she didn't even know I had them in. There's

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Speaker 1: no big wire, there's no none of that stuff. There's

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Speaker 1: just a little black dot in your ear and they

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Speaker 1: sound so good. They sound crystal clear. I want you

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Speaker 1: to experience this yourself. Get yourself some of these earbuds.

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Speaker 1: You will love them. You gotta by Raycon dot com

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Speaker 1: slash jesse. That's by Raycon dot com slash jesse. That

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Speaker 1: gets you fifteen percent off joining me now on my birthday?

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Speaker 1: What Chris, we're allowed to bring up personal stuff? The

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Speaker 1: Great Carol Roth, host of The Roth Effect podcast. Carol,

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Speaker 1: is there anything you'd like to say to me before

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Speaker 1: we get going? I want to say, have a very

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, Jesse Kelly. I hope that you have burgers

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Speaker 1: and tacos and cake and everything fabulous because you deserve it,

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Speaker 1: and you know you deserve it. I do deserve it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Carol, Thank you. All right, now let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the uncomfortable stuff now that the fun stuff's over.

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Speaker 1: You had a great, great message over the weekend, essentially

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Speaker 1: saying we have all taken our eye off the ball.

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01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 1: We are getting screwed royally right now by the Fed.

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Speaker 1: Explain that plea, Okay, this is gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of headaches, bloating. But basically, I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: is a good post. This is a horrible post. But

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Speaker 1: we have this independent agency that derives its authority from

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Speaker 1: Congress called the FED. It oversees the banking system and

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to maintain the stability of prices, which is

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Speaker 1: a fancy way of saying inflation and maximum employment. And

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Speaker 1: they have gone but Nana's nuts. They are supposed to

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Speaker 1: supposedly help when there is financial issues. That happened they

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Speaker 1: started to really intervene and go completely crazy during the

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Speaker 1: seven o eight financial crisis, and they have never recovered

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Speaker 1: and have just continued to act insane, including driving their

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Speaker 1: target interest right down to zero two quarter of a

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Speaker 1: percentage point and ballooning their balance sheet to more than

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars with quote unquote money that they have

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Speaker 1: created out of thin air. And I know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a lot of questions. I'm just going to stop

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Speaker 1: there so I can get those right questions. Balance sheet,

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Speaker 1: Why does the FED have a balance sheet? Whose money

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Speaker 1: are they buying? Well, they are going out for all

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Speaker 1: intents and purposes, and with a simple keystroke. They're not

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Speaker 1: even like you know, going into the men's and printing money,

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Speaker 1: but just with a simple keystroke, they are giving themselves

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Speaker 1: money that doesn't exist. So it's not money that we

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Speaker 1: have earned or that has been created through innovation. It's

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Speaker 1: just an entry from a computer keystroke and saying we

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Speaker 1: have money. And they're going out into the market and

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Speaker 1: they are purchasing securities. It used to be treasury securities,

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Speaker 1: which is hilarious, since that's our own debt during the crisis,

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Speaker 1: it's mortgage securities. Now they're going in and they're buying

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Speaker 1: corporate debt and they're buying equity. And what that does

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Speaker 1: is it drives again interest rates down. So if you

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Speaker 1: are a saver, you're somebody who it's planning for retirement,

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Speaker 1: it completely screws that up for you. And it pushes

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Speaker 1: everybody who's trying to earn any interest on their money

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Speaker 1: and to risk your assets and completely distorts the prices

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Speaker 1: of assets. And since the money that they have created

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Speaker 1: is out of said air, it's not backed by gold

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Speaker 1: or anything, it creates a question of whether we are

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Speaker 1: going to have that faith in our currency, which makes

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Speaker 1: us the standard currency for the world. And this is

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Speaker 1: a big problem that people are not focused on because

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Speaker 1: it's super complicated. Yeah, it is complicated, and that's why

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Speaker 1: I love having you because you can break this down.

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Speaker 1: But I want to ask you buying up corporate debt,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Does that mean the Jesse Kelly

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Speaker 1: Incorporated I got into too much debt and the government's

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Speaker 1: going to write me a big check. They're going to

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Speaker 1: loan me and check what are they doing. What does

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Speaker 1: that mean, Well, monomous, you are a publicly traded entity,

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Speaker 1: or your debt is available through the public market. So

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Speaker 1: they're going into the markets and they're buying the debt

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Speaker 1: of bigger companies. But that doesn't mean it's a good credit.

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Speaker 1: It could be a company that's in a big old

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Speaker 1: trouble that's a bad to file for bankruptcy. And they're

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Speaker 1: going in and saying, oh, no problem, we'll just go

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Speaker 1: and we think your debt's great. It doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: the rating is. We're going to go in and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna buy it up and we'll just stick it on

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Speaker 1: our balance sheet and take it off the market for

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Speaker 1: a while. And by way, this is unprecedented that the

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Speaker 1: Fed has never ever bought corporate debt before, and it's

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Speaker 1: never bought equity before. And I will tell you it's

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Speaker 1: not even allowed to do that by Congress. So what

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Speaker 1: did they do. They went to the Treasury. They hired

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Speaker 1: the biggest money manager in the world. Black Rock, by

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Speaker 1: the way, has a lot of cronies Wall Street to

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Speaker 1: K Street there and they are the ones who are

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Speaker 1: managing a lot of these purchases. This is a huge, huge,

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Speaker 1: possible scandal and very very dangerous. Okay, I can already

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Speaker 1: hear what people are saying right now of well, what

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Speaker 1: about Trump? Well why does Trump allowing that? Will you

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Speaker 1: please elaborate on why exactly Donald Trump would be allowing

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Speaker 1: such a thing? So well, first of all, you have

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Speaker 1: to remember that the Fed maintains its authority from Congress,

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Speaker 1: So Congress isn't the executive branch. I know there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of conflation over the last three years, but

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Speaker 1: really Congress is the one that should be raining it

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Speaker 1: in in general. But the other thing is Steve Manichen,

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Speaker 1: even though he's very smart, is totally out of control

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Speaker 1: and has done a lot of super shady things in

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Speaker 1: my own opinion, And so you Trump is going Steve's

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Speaker 1: a smart guy, he must know what he's doing. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is really really complicated stuff. Also, part of what

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Speaker 1: they're doing is pumping up the value of the stock market.

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Speaker 1: And we know that Trump likes to have a good

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Speaker 1: stock market to hang his hand his head on. So

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Speaker 1: from his perspective, that may be going great, even though

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Speaker 1: from a long term perspective and from a main street

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Speaker 1: perspective it's not so great. This sounds like gangster capitalism

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Speaker 1: to me, and it sounds like a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: who are going to go to their yachts in the

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Speaker 1: Mediterranean when this bubble bursts while the rest of us,

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Speaker 1: drown in debt, are in control of things. That's what

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Speaker 1: it sounds like to me, Carol. I mean, I've been

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Speaker 1: calling it the selling out of Main Street to Wall Street.

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Speaker 1: And I say this as somebody who is a former

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Speaker 1: investment banker and also a small business advocate. I have

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Speaker 1: my feet firmly planted in both world and understand both worlds.

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Speaker 1: And I am, as I said, disgusted, horrified, and concern about,

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Speaker 1: just over and over again the willingness of people to

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Speaker 1: sell the hard working people of Main Street out to

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Speaker 1: wall streets. Carol. People will always ask me for books

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Speaker 1: to read on history stuff, because I open every show

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Speaker 1: with history. Is there something because people would love this knowledge?

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Speaker 1: Is there some place somebody can start an idiot's guide

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Speaker 1: one oh one to the stuff you're talking about? What

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Speaker 1: would you give somebody something they can read? Oh goodness, Well,

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Speaker 1: if you want to get up to speed on the

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Speaker 1: last financial crisis, too Big to Fail would be a

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Speaker 1: good place to start to just kind of get a

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Speaker 1: sense of that cronyism between Wall Street and our government

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Speaker 1: and the level of intervention that's happened. And what you'll

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Speaker 1: sign is when you go and you go, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they did that those kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: Is that they left those really crazy interest rates to

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Speaker 1: zero percent interest rates alone for seven years, seven years,

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Speaker 1: but he really got them up to two two and

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Speaker 1: a quarter percent, and then the market through a tantrum

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Speaker 1: they started bringing back down and again the Fed freaked

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Speaker 1: out in March and brought them back to to zero.

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Speaker 1: So so for most of the last dozen years we've

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Speaker 1: been living in this And if you want to get

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Speaker 1: a sense of where this really started to go up

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Speaker 1: the tracks, Too Big to Fail is a good place

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Speaker 1: to start. Are you a brought worst person? And do

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Speaker 1: you put them on a sandwich? So I am more

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Speaker 1: like in my meats category, I'm more of a hot

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Speaker 1: dog lady than a brought worst ye person. But I

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Speaker 1: do enjoy a carb around anything, so you know, if

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Speaker 1: I'm going to eat it, I do like to have

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Speaker 1: a car, but if I'm feeling like I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: really healthy, then I'll just eat it without the car.

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Speaker 1: Back I did My only issue with the brought worst

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01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 1: is I don't think it's that flavorful as far as

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Speaker 1: the sausage family goes, I mean a million one better sausages,

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01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: and I feel like you're always at risk of getting

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01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 1: that dreaded oil squirt out of it on your cheek

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01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 1: that gives you like a third degree burnes. That ever

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01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: happened to you? Yeah, yeah, I've had I've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of issues. I've also been attacked by a pan

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Speaker 1: of bacon with the great thing, and that's but I

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01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: have not held it against bacon, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I would hold that against the worth. I do

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01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 1: think the taste profile things are much more important issue.

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Speaker 1: Carol Roth Roth Effects podcast go downloaded. I appreciate you, ma'am.

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01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Jesse, Thank you, ma'am. Bye bye. All right,

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01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 1: now we need to address some balls. Hang on, you're

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01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 1: listening to the Jesse Kelly show. You're welcome. Do you

1496
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 1: have any idea what it's like to go from not

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01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 1: sleeping and not sleeping and not sleeping and then you

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01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 1: take a couple of sleeping pills so you can finally

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01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: function one day, but then you still don't feel great

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01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 1: and you're not sleeping, and you're not sleeping, and your

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01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 1: eyes itch and burn and you're in a bad mood.

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01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 1: And then boom, almost in an instant, it turns around

1503
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 1: and you feel good all the time. Your eyes feel

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01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:20,600
Speaker 1: good all the time. Speaking of eyes, I can see

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01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 1: better now. I know that sounds odd. I thought I

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01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: needed glasses before. No, I just needed sleep. And I

1507
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 1: get to thank EBB Sleep for that. You need to

1508
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 1: try and Ebb Sleep. You can try it risk free

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01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 1: for sixty days. Experience what I have. Go to try

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01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 1: ebb dot com slash Jesse. That's try ebb dot com.

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01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 1: Slash Jesse used to promo code Jesse for twenty five

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01:57:48,040 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 1: bucks off. Hang on, we're gonna get to my balls

1513
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 1: talk here in a moment. But Chris brought up, do

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01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 1: we want a house? Do we want to send it

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01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: in the Republic of Jesse? And I brought up, maybe

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01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 1: we need a monarchy. And before you freak out, let

1517
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 1: me be clear. I love being an American. I love

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01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 1: being free. I think this is the only way to

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01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:23,480
Speaker 1: do things. But let's not act like there aren't problems.

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01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 1: There are problems. Too many dirt balls got in control

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01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 1: around here, very slow very difficult to do anything. Everyone

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01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: knows a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of government

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01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: to live in. The problem is it's hard for one

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01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 1: of those to exist. We talked earlier, We gave a

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01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 1: little hint earlier about how you would do with all

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01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 1: that power. You know, the history of the world says

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01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 1: you would abuse it, right, you would abuse it. It

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01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 1: is not good for you, not at all. It is

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01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: not good for you to have too much power. I

1530
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 1: have given you nine million examples and the history of

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01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 1: the world of people, even normal, well adjusted people, getting

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01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 1: power and losing their freaking minds. I have And it's true.

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01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 1: Problem with the monarchy is you get a bad one,

1534
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 1: things go south real quick. So Chris brought up which

1535
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 1: was a really stupid idea he didn't think through. He

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01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 1: brought up twenty year terms. Here's the problem with that

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01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 1: twenty years. That much power, He's never leaving after twenty years.

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01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 1: With that much power he's going to have, he's going

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01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 1: to have a system and place by that point in

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02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 1: time that he's never leaving. And even if the first

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02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 1: one or two do, the next one isn't going to

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02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:21,800
Speaker 1: Maybe ten years, Chris, maybe maybe now I got a smoker.

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02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:25,800
Speaker 1: Everybody knows. I got a smoker for Father's Day. Everyone knows.

1544
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:29,240
Speaker 1: I've cooked exactly two things on it, and somehow managed

1545
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,080
Speaker 1: to screw one of the two up. The first time,

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02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 1: I just got chicken drumsticks because I didn't know what

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02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 1: else cook. Everything else seems so complicated. I'm not some expert.

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02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 1: I just put it olive oil on him and cover

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02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 1: him with Cajun rub and I smoked him for like

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02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 1: an hour and a half. Phenomenal. The whole family is

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02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 1: m I'm men smoke chickens like the best thing in

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02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 1: the world. Second time, I decided I'm gonna do ribs.

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02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do baby back ribs. Seeing people do ribs,

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02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: I've eaten people's other smoked ribs and they're wonderful. And

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02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:00,800
Speaker 1: I get with all my neighbors because all my neighbors

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02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 1: have smokers. This is Texas. You don't have to go

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Speaker 1: far to find somebody who has a smoker. They smoked meat, right,

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02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 1: neighbors all give me a million, different, million to one

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Speaker 1: different ways to do the ribs, Do this, do that,

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Speaker 1: But I follow instructions. Let me be clear, I followed instructions.

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Speaker 1: Smoked him for an hour or two. No, smoked him

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Speaker 1: for three hours. Then I cooked him for two hours

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02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 1: totally wrapped up in foil with honey and maybe it

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02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 1: was just honey with honey all over honey and butter.

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02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:32,600
Speaker 1: Put honey and butter all over him, wrapped him up

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Speaker 1: in foil, smoked or cooked him higher for two hours,

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02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 1: then took him out of the foil for another fifteen

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes. They sucked, and I mean it's not as

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02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 1: if the flavor was bagas I had a good rub

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Speaker 1: on them. They were kind of chewy and tough. We're

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Speaker 1: not talking fall off the bone ribs here, what Chris, Yes,

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02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 1: I took off the membrane specifically because I have a

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02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 1: little meat shop, a great meat shop down where I live,

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02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 1: who will do that for you, like as soon as

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02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 1: you buy them, actually want me to peel it. So

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02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:04,960
Speaker 1: I know they were professionally trimmed and dumb like I

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02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 1: know they were because I didn't do it. I didn't

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02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:13,560
Speaker 1: do it. Now yesterday I get I get a feeling

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02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 1: deep inside me that I want to smoke something. Buddy

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02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:21,520
Speaker 1: of mine had sent me a recipe for these sausage

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02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 1: and cheese balls and essentially This is what's in them,

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02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 1: or what's supposed to be in them. Bisquick baking mix,

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02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:34,200
Speaker 1: hot breakfast sausage, one of those eight ounce things of

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02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 1: cream cheese, some an eight ounce thing of shredded cheddar cheese,

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02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:46,400
Speaker 1: sharp sharp cheddar, some parsley, some onion powder, and some

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02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 1: kind of all purpose rub. That was essentially what these were.

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02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:52,480
Speaker 1: And you're supposed to put all these ingredients in a

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02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 1: bull mix them up really really good. And this bart's important.

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02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 1: It's important to read the whole recipe. You're supposed to

1590
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 1: make bites balls out of these things. No, I didn't

1591
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 1: read the bite size part, and I made these huge

1592
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 1: balls and they are gigant. Oh yeah, Chris, they were.

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02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 1: They were. They were a big cheeseburger would have been

1594
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 1: my balls. I had huge balls, And so I thought

1595
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:21,400
Speaker 1: him on the smoker was supposed to be like four

1596
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 1: hundred degrees for fifteen minutes. At though, I'm on the

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02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 1: smoker four degrees for fifteen minutes, and I pop it open, souse,

1598
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be done, and they look raw.

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02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, I am gonna go ahead and

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02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: put a probe in there and just give me a

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02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:38,600
Speaker 1: real quick temperature check. They were yet they were not okay.

1602
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,680
Speaker 1: They were not okay, but full disclosure, they only needed

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02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:43,600
Speaker 1: like five more minutes after that and they were done

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02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 1: because I put the meat probe. Its real slick. Phenomenal, dude, phenomenal.

1605
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Speaker 1: But get this, I love to share food because I

1606
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 1: love food. I love food, and so I love to

1607
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:58,160
Speaker 1: share it. And I have a couple of neighbors I'm real,

1608
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 1: real close friends with. I pop a couple of these

1609
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:03,720
Speaker 1: cheese these sauce and cheese balls myself. Of course, my

1610
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 1: kids are weirdo freaks. Oh there's a key ingredient I

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02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 1: forgot it called the recipe calls for Fresnel peppers, but

1612
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 1: instead I bought a can of those Doya Chipotle peppers

1613
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:16,160
Speaker 1: with the liquid Chipotle stuff and the actual Chipole peppers

1614
02:04:16,160 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 1: in it. So I dumped the fresnoe and put the

1615
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 1: Chipotle in it. Highly recommend. They're so good. I eat

1616
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 1: two of them and just destroy them. And I'd already

1617
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 1: packed up everything else to go take a couple of

1618
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:28,160
Speaker 1: packs of neighbors. I deliver them. Than the neighbors I

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02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 1: get back home and I wanted more. And then you

1620
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 1: can't do that thing where you try to Indian give

1621
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 1: what's your neighbors? You know what I mean. Hey, You're

1622
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 1: never completely ready to adopt a team. For late nights,

1623
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 1: writing English papers are your teen's music taste for dinners

1624
02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 1: where they talk more on their phone than with you.

1625
02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 1: For the first time they call your mom. You're never

1626
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 1: completely ready to adopt a teen, and you can't imagine

1627
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 1: the reward. To learn more about adopting a team, visit

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Speaker 1: adopt us kids dot org. Brought to you by the

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Speaker 1: US Department of Health and Human Services, adopt Us Kids,

1630
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Speaker 1: and the AD Council. Ladies and gentlemen, we've arrived in Philadelphia.

1631
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 1: Local time is three or five pm in the temperature

1632
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: is sixty seven degrees at this time. You are now

1633
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:27,960
Speaker 1: free to use your cellular devices. You know that feeling

1634
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 1: when you get to turn your phone on after the

1635
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:32,200
Speaker 1: plane lands. You can have that feeling every time you drive.

1636
02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 1: Make sure your cell phone is stowed away whenever you

1637
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 1: are behind the wheel. Visit Stop Text Stop WREX dot org,

1638
02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 1: a message brought to you by the National Highway Traffic

1639
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Speaker 1: Safety Administration, Project yellow Light, and the AD Council. Speaking

1640
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:07,520
Speaker 1: of Smoker, my buddy smoked a Caso the other day, Chris,

1641
02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:10,880
Speaker 1: and you can't even imagine how good this stuff looked.

1642
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:13,120
Speaker 1: He essentially and it was like, couldn't have been easier.

1643
02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 1: He had all the ingredients chopped up. He sent me

1644
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:17,240
Speaker 1: a picture of it, and they were all separated, like

1645
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 1: there was a cheese in one corner of this one

1646
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 1: of those foil trays, and the peppers are meeting everything

1647
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 1: else in the separate corners. And he just set it

1648
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:26,760
Speaker 1: in there for an hour and smoked it. Comes back

1649
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 1: an hour later, stirs it all together, leaves it and

1650
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 1: smokes it for another hour. Oh my gosh, I love

1651
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 1: this country. It's my birthday. My email addresses Jesse at

1652
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show dot com. They all go right to Chris.

1653
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:47,840
Speaker 1: Chris reads them, prints them off for me. We celebrate

1654
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 1: a special thank you out there to Rachel who sent

1655
02:06:52,760 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 1: us a birthday pie which we destroyed. That's all the

1656
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. Your holster is way more important than

1657
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 1: you think it is. It's just way more important than

1658
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 1: you think it is. What look and I get that

1659
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 1: the holster's not the sexy part of carrying firearms, right,

1660
02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 1: You want to talk about your weapon and your ammunition

1661
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 1: you want to talk about your safety training, I want

1662
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:04,200
Speaker 1: to talk about how you did it at the range.

1663
02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 1: I'll look at my groups. I was doing these failure

1664
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 1: drills today, and all that stuff is really important. I mean,

1665
02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:11,440
Speaker 1: really really important. I'm not discounting that, but I've known

1666
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:13,920
Speaker 1: so many people who do all those things. They take

1667
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:18,080
Speaker 1: all the necessary steps, and then they carry with a

1668
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:21,000
Speaker 1: holster they bought from a big box hunting store that

1669
02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:24,520
Speaker 1: was made a thousand at a time. Please don't put

1670
02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:27,480
Speaker 1: your life in one of those holsters. You need to

1671
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:32,240
Speaker 1: trust Northwest Retention Systems because it's all custom made gear.

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Speaker 1: It's the only thing I carry around NW retention dot Com.

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Speaker 1: That's NW retention dot Com used to promo co Jesse

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Speaker 1: gets you ten percent off