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Speaker 1: which takes for when the news gets weird.

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Speaker 2: I am Mary Katherine Ham and I'm Karl Markowitz. How

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Speaker 2: was your mother with Daniline? Catherine?

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Speaker 1: You know, it was good. I had some fun time

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Speaker 1: on my own. I had some fun time with the kids,

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Speaker 1: went to a little barbecue in the evening. Took some

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Speaker 3: But we had.

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Speaker 1: We had a good old time and I got like

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Speaker 1: lots of little homemade goodies from my kiddos.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Very nice.

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Speaker 2: I just realized I haven't read their cards yet.

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Speaker 4: You got to get on that. How is yours?

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Speaker 2: It was great. We had a beach day and then

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Speaker 2: we went to dinner at a restaurant called Malco, which

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Speaker 2: I think you and I were at in Tel Aviv.

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Speaker 4: Nice.

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Speaker 2: It was fantastic, really delicious. If anyone's ever in West Palm,

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Speaker 2: I highly recommend it.

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Speaker 4: Very nice.

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Speaker 1: And as you and I always say, train your kids

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is difficult.

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Speaker 1: Climb the mountain, and then you get the payoff after

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Speaker 4: It's great.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would even say I see kids on the

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Speaker 2: tablet on the beach and that actually more bananas hurts

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my gosh, oh goodness.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Well, in addition to our wholesome weekend, Trump was cooking

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Speaker 1: up some stuff as always. On Sunday, I was on

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Speaker 1: to throw to a SoundBite of myself assessing Trump's weekend activities.

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Speaker 1: I actually on every Monday just spend some time catching

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Speaker 4: Some of them I really do not like. This is

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Speaker 1: I was like yesterday I was seeing things break and

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Speaker 2: I was like, I will learn it all well tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But we have since focused on Katari airplanes, and.

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Speaker 4: We will talk about this story in which.

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Speaker 1: The apparently the gout Our government at some point has

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Speaker 1: So here's Donald Trump's truth, and I'll read it in

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would start by conceding that, yes, our healthcare

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Speaker 1: the same is true with pharmaceuticals. We do forty to

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Speaker 1: You would lose some of that if you cap prices

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Speaker 5: And the result is that no one knows what anything

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Speaker 5: there's all though an intermediary, and so the market can't

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Speaker 2: Right. So the thing is that Trump tried this in

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Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, this is so not Republican

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, to that point, the message is going to

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Speaker 4: Going to work, and it's not that it won't work.

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Speaker 1: You can force people into putting price caps on things,

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Speaker 4: Does a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: They don't just do the things that you're suspicious of.

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Speaker 1: And you do really run the risk when you socialize

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Speaker 1: You're just advertising you're going to fix all of this,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, because the reason we have a Frankenstein situation in

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Speaker 1: And when they did that, employers responded by adding healthcare

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Speaker 4: Stop doing it.

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Speaker 4: Of sorts in the room. It's in the room while

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Speaker 4: they're writing the Bill of Rights? Shall we hear that?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 3: What shall we discuss next? What is the second most

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, Gune, I don't hate that, well I do.

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. So what is your name? Matt?

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Speaker 3: What Matt?

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Speaker 4: Don't you worry about it?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 6: Matt?

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Speaker 3: What will posterity say of us if the second right

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Speaker 6: We don't play.

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Speaker 4: Damn, that's actually kind of sick.

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Speaker 3: a gun emboldened people to say crazy stuff as well?

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Speaker 5: Bro?

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Speaker 6: Whoa yeah, what makes that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Gentlemen?

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Speaker 3: We cannot just have an amendment that says guns, but

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Speaker 3: what about guns?

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Speaker 2: Having them.

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Speaker 4: Smart?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 4: Who is this guy?

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Speaker 6: Why is it he running this?

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Speaker 3: Matt? I am open to discussing guns for a later amendment,

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Speaker 3: but I must insist we move on to a more

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Speaker 3: pressing concern.

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Speaker 6: You're screaming, sir, where are you from?

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Speaker 3: Exactly America?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: But where in America?

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Speaker 6: Which state.

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Speaker 4: Are United One?

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Speaker 2: I love it. I mean, the thing is that they

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Speaker 2: don't end up making some sort of leftist argument there,

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Speaker 2: which rising I kept waiting for it. It just comes

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Speaker 2: off as like, yeah, this is what we did because

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Speaker 2: we are bad.

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Speaker 4: You know, It's.

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Speaker 1: Great and Walton Goggins is the perfect person to deliver

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Speaker 1: this message. No, I enjoyed it so much because it feels,

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Speaker 1: as you say, celebratory. It feels like good natured poking

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Speaker 1: fun at the sort of very wild nature and beginnings

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Speaker 1: of American freedom.

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Speaker 4: And I'm here for that.

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Speaker 1: And I know that I think liberals do sometimes have

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Speaker 1: trouble understanding why we like being like fun being poked when.

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Speaker 4: It's actually funny.

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Speaker 1: Right. I just enjoy this very much, just as I

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Speaker 1: did the George Washington thing, because there are ridiculous things

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Speaker 1: about our founding that if you put pen to paper

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Speaker 1: and have somebody actually funny and normal doing it, it

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Speaker 1: comes out great.

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Speaker 2: Right. It's comedy for most of the country. And I

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Speaker 2: think SNL or if other late night shows would get

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Speaker 2: back to that, they would see success. They would see

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Speaker 2: kind of that we're not so separate and that laughing

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Speaker 2: at ourselves is important. I think we've talked about it

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Speaker 2: on here before. But Nate Brigazzi, who you mentioned as

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Speaker 2: one of the other founding father skits on Saturday Night Live,

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Speaker 2: his comedy is so normal, it's not at all political.

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Speaker 2: It's so just about America and just for all of us.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He was profiled in Esquire this week because he has

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Speaker 1: this brand new book out called Big Dumb Eyes, which

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Speaker 1: is going gangbusters. But his stats are insane, it says

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Speaker 1: last year in Nate I got to the forty six

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Speaker 1: year old comedian from Tennessee sold more tickets to his

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Speaker 1: stand up shows than anyone in comedy, including Jerry Seinfeld,

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Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, and Sebastian Menscalgo combined. That's more than one

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Speaker 1: million tickets for an eighty million dollar hall. In October,

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Speaker 1: he has Saturday Live for the second time in twelve months.

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Speaker 1: Two months later, his third hour long comedy special for

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Speaker 1: Netflix premiered. Every week you can hear his musings on

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Speaker 1: the Nateland podcast, and then his book came out. He

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Speaker 1: in this interview, and I'm so pleased to hear it

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Speaker 1: because I think of him as sort of king of

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Speaker 1: the normies and.

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Speaker 2: Totally, yes, that's a perfect description.

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Speaker 1: Kay's he's clean, his comedy is clean. I can watch

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Speaker 1: his specials with my kids.

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 4: He's just goofing on his normal life.

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Speaker 1: He's married, he has he has faith, but it's not

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Speaker 1: explicitly like family friendly comedy. And it's not religious comedy,

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Speaker 1: it's just comedy.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that it was family friendly comedy for

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Speaker 2: a long time. Only like after a while did I realize, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: my kids are watching this with me. There's no cursing,

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Speaker 2: there's no sex, there's no like explicit content at all.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he's just fantastic. I have tickets to show.

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Speaker 2: I'm one of those people who bought the tickets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's he's also thinking about starting a production

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Speaker 1: company for normy content and a theme park for the

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Speaker 1: normies to visit. So he's like, is he our generations

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Speaker 1: Dolly Parton? Possibly, but again, like I think he's even

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Speaker 1: less right coded than Dolly Parton is now. Dolly Parton

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Speaker 1: is universally loved at this point, but she is specifically

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Speaker 1: faith based, and you know, her theme park has a

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Speaker 1: lot of that running through it.

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Speaker 4: He says.

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Speaker 1: When he's talking about producing things, he's like, I just

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Speaker 1: want to do things that normal people could enjoy. And

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Speaker 1: he says it's not explicitly religious. He says, like they're

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Speaker 1: just not going to be navel gazing, weirdo signaling right

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Speaker 1: at pieces. And I love that someone this powerful is

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Speaker 1: interested in doing this, and the reason he's powerful is

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Speaker 1: because the market of normis is huge.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly stuff for the normies, and you will succeed.

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Speaker 1: I just want to note one fact check for the

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Speaker 1: SNL guys, which is appropriate. They're lefty guy in the

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Speaker 1: founding representing their point of view, gets it wrong and says,

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Speaker 1: we just wrote a law saying that people can say

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Speaker 1: whatever they want.

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Speaker 4: It's a bill of.

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Speaker 1: Rights comes from God above, does not come from the government,

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Speaker 1: and is not granted by the government. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we all I'm sure that the left leaning audience of

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Speaker 1: SNL learned a little something about the Second Amendment anyway.

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Speaker 1: I just want to point out not a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of guys they're doing their best over them, they're like, what.

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Speaker 4: Is interesting anyway, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the federal's papers later, but you know

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Speaker 1: they're getting started well.

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