1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,708 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,788 --> 00:00:23,988 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Hey guys, this is Kyle Brandts. And 3 00:00:24,108 --> 00:00:27,548 Speaker 1: before the Jets went over to London to play the Vikings, 4 00:00:28,388 --> 00:00:30,588 Speaker 1: I got to go to New Jersey and talk to 5 00:00:30,668 --> 00:00:34,108 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I sat down with him the day after 6 00:00:34,268 --> 00:00:36,868 Speaker 1: the Jets had lost at home and that pretty miserable 7 00:00:36,868 --> 00:00:39,588 Speaker 1: loss in the rain to the Broncos. Less than twenty 8 00:00:39,588 --> 00:00:41,908 Speaker 1: four hours later, there I am sitting with him. And 9 00:00:42,468 --> 00:00:44,588 Speaker 1: I've known Aarin for a long time. I've interviewed him 10 00:00:44,628 --> 00:00:48,588 Speaker 1: several times. It's always fun, it's always challenging. It's always 11 00:00:48,668 --> 00:00:51,188 Speaker 1: unexpected with some of the things that he says. But 12 00:00:51,228 --> 00:00:54,508 Speaker 1: we tried to hit everything we could. Him battling father time, 13 00:00:54,588 --> 00:00:57,228 Speaker 1: how that fight's going, his memories of being a rookie, 14 00:00:57,388 --> 00:00:59,428 Speaker 1: what it's like having young quarterbacks come up to him 15 00:00:59,468 --> 00:01:02,348 Speaker 1: and say, I watch you growing up. We even got 16 00:01:02,388 --> 00:01:04,788 Speaker 1: into the election, and I'm not kidding, and we got 17 00:01:04,788 --> 00:01:08,068 Speaker 1: into everything. This is the full interview. Thank you for listening, 18 00:01:08,228 --> 00:01:09,988 Speaker 1: and thank you, as always for following us on Good 19 00:01:09,988 --> 00:01:14,788 Speaker 1: Morning Football. Aaron, great to see him. Man. Likewise, I 20 00:01:14,788 --> 00:01:17,268 Speaker 1: want to start with always what my favorite question is 21 00:01:17,308 --> 00:01:18,748 Speaker 1: to ask you how's the life. 22 00:01:19,228 --> 00:01:25,028 Speaker 2: It's great, Yeah, I mean it's different in really beautiful ways. 23 00:01:25,028 --> 00:01:28,188 Speaker 2: Been a tough year, you know, to be off, to 24 00:01:28,228 --> 00:01:32,148 Speaker 2: be injured, to be rehabbing, but a lot of good 25 00:01:32,228 --> 00:01:34,708 Speaker 2: lessons in the meantime. Glad I'm still playing, Glad, I'm 26 00:01:34,708 --> 00:01:36,508 Speaker 2: still here. Glad I'm moving the way I want to move. 27 00:01:36,588 --> 00:01:39,388 Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of the older you get, 28 00:01:39,388 --> 00:01:41,788 Speaker 2: the more gratitude you have for people along with you 29 00:01:41,828 --> 00:01:44,068 Speaker 2: on the journey. And there's a lot of great people 30 00:01:44,188 --> 00:01:46,948 Speaker 2: that came alongside me during some tough times as I 31 00:01:47,028 --> 00:01:50,268 Speaker 2: was frustrated and are broken and disappointed, and it's kind 32 00:01:50,308 --> 00:01:52,468 Speaker 2: of kept my spirits alive. And you know, once I 33 00:01:52,508 --> 00:01:55,268 Speaker 2: kind of crossed the threshold of walking and moving and 34 00:01:55,308 --> 00:01:57,468 Speaker 2: being able to walk up steps, you know, life got better. 35 00:01:57,508 --> 00:02:01,868 Speaker 2: And I'm really enjoying Jersey. I'm enjoying my team. You know, 36 00:02:01,908 --> 00:02:05,668 Speaker 2: we got a great fan base. Hungry fan base for sure, 37 00:02:05,788 --> 00:02:07,108 Speaker 2: but it's been a lot of fun. 38 00:02:07,508 --> 00:02:09,508 Speaker 1: It's really cool this you're here. And I was thinking 39 00:02:09,548 --> 00:02:11,948 Speaker 1: on the drive here to Jersey about the first time 40 00:02:12,028 --> 00:02:15,348 Speaker 1: when I met and it was in California. I was 41 00:02:15,348 --> 00:02:17,948 Speaker 1: in my late twenties, you were in your mid twenties 42 00:02:18,868 --> 00:02:21,868 Speaker 1: and now somehow Aaron Rodgers this year is going to 43 00:02:21,948 --> 00:02:23,068 Speaker 1: turn forty one. 44 00:02:23,508 --> 00:02:28,068 Speaker 2: How did that happen? Yeah, we both got old. 45 00:02:28,268 --> 00:02:30,668 Speaker 1: I know, it's nuts. We were babies. 46 00:02:31,028 --> 00:02:33,508 Speaker 2: It's weird, you know, I was telling him before we started, Yeah, 47 00:02:34,348 --> 00:02:36,348 Speaker 2: you know, having Bonnicks come up to me and say, man, 48 00:02:36,388 --> 00:02:39,428 Speaker 2: I watched you growing up, you know, and just thinking, 49 00:02:39,548 --> 00:02:41,828 Speaker 2: you know, sitting next to Braylen Allen who's twenty years old. 50 00:02:41,868 --> 00:02:43,988 Speaker 2: He's half my age. You know, I turned forty one 51 00:02:43,988 --> 00:02:46,068 Speaker 2: before he turns twenty one. He came in legally have 52 00:02:46,148 --> 00:02:49,348 Speaker 2: a drink, and I'm growing gray hair on my chin. 53 00:02:49,508 --> 00:02:53,268 Speaker 2: But I'm real thankful. You know. It's been a beautiful journey. 54 00:02:53,308 --> 00:02:57,108 Speaker 2: And it's not about how you start, how you finished. 55 00:02:57,108 --> 00:02:59,028 Speaker 2: It's about the you know, the time you spend in 56 00:02:59,068 --> 00:03:02,148 Speaker 2: it doing something you love, getting paid incredibly well, being 57 00:03:02,228 --> 00:03:06,188 Speaker 2: part of special group, special organizations, special group of men 58 00:03:06,188 --> 00:03:09,668 Speaker 2: and women all pulling in the same direction, trying to 59 00:03:09,668 --> 00:03:12,988 Speaker 2: inspire and entertain a fan base that's you know, so 60 00:03:13,148 --> 00:03:15,788 Speaker 2: invested in what you're doing. You know, it's the greatest 61 00:03:15,788 --> 00:03:16,588 Speaker 2: life I could ask for. 62 00:03:17,268 --> 00:03:19,708 Speaker 1: So when someone like Nick says that too, during that 63 00:03:19,788 --> 00:03:22,348 Speaker 1: great life, you're having Is that fun for you or 64 00:03:22,388 --> 00:03:23,348 Speaker 1: has it become annoying? 65 00:03:23,588 --> 00:03:24,308 Speaker 2: No? No, I love it. 66 00:03:24,348 --> 00:03:24,788 Speaker 1: You like it? 67 00:03:24,868 --> 00:03:28,548 Speaker 2: Why I do because I didn't get that opportunity, you know, 68 00:03:28,588 --> 00:03:31,628 Speaker 2: if I have any you know, I kind of did, 69 00:03:31,668 --> 00:03:33,428 Speaker 2: but in a different sense. You know, I got to 70 00:03:33,428 --> 00:03:36,428 Speaker 2: play with after Montana and Young retired and various Sanator's 71 00:03:36,468 --> 00:03:39,188 Speaker 2: retire my favorite players, but far and day one, I'm 72 00:03:39,228 --> 00:03:42,868 Speaker 2: in the same locker room with them. So but it's 73 00:03:42,908 --> 00:03:44,508 Speaker 2: kind of weird with your teammate to be that yo, 74 00:03:44,548 --> 00:03:48,108 Speaker 2: bro and Bratt you know, you know Bret, It's like, yeah, 75 00:03:48,388 --> 00:03:52,108 Speaker 2: he's so laid back in southern like it wasn't a 76 00:03:52,148 --> 00:03:54,348 Speaker 2: time for that. But I got to play against, you know, 77 00:03:54,388 --> 00:03:56,468 Speaker 2: a lot of my favorite players growing up, which is awesome. 78 00:03:56,508 --> 00:03:58,268 Speaker 2: I got to walk the length of the field between 79 00:03:58,268 --> 00:03:59,788 Speaker 2: third and fourth quarter in two thousand and five, and 80 00:03:59,868 --> 00:04:03,108 Speaker 2: Dion Sanders, who you know played Fred Landa back then. 81 00:04:03,308 --> 00:04:05,108 Speaker 2: I was in San Francisco's the Vision. It's kind of 82 00:04:05,188 --> 00:04:08,508 Speaker 2: the hated Falcon, you know, the Rizon and Dion and 83 00:04:08,548 --> 00:04:11,428 Speaker 2: those guys and Jerry Glanville and then it comes over 84 00:04:11,508 --> 00:04:12,948 Speaker 2: to the good side and went to the Super Bowl. 85 00:04:13,028 --> 00:04:15,228 Speaker 2: And so Dion was always a favorite player in mine 86 00:04:15,588 --> 00:04:17,468 Speaker 2: and on the field at same time, it was Dale Carter. 87 00:04:18,028 --> 00:04:19,868 Speaker 2: And people forget about how good Dale Carter because he 88 00:04:19,908 --> 00:04:22,148 Speaker 2: was a fantastic player, but he played on the Chiefs team, 89 00:04:22,428 --> 00:04:24,628 Speaker 2: and while Montana got traded the Chiefs, I was naturally 90 00:04:24,628 --> 00:04:27,508 Speaker 2: a Chiefs fan. He didn't I understand, but you know, 91 00:04:27,508 --> 00:04:29,868 Speaker 2: I remember Dale Carter just how great he was. And 92 00:04:29,908 --> 00:04:31,748 Speaker 2: he's playing on the field. I'm getting to play. We're 93 00:04:31,748 --> 00:04:33,988 Speaker 2: getting blown out, and Deon Sanders is walking down the 94 00:04:33,988 --> 00:04:36,588 Speaker 2: field with me, and it's just so momentary. Pinch yourself 95 00:04:36,668 --> 00:04:38,708 Speaker 2: and go how special you're living out your dreams. So 96 00:04:38,748 --> 00:04:42,548 Speaker 2: many people have dreams and goals and aspirations and maybe 97 00:04:42,588 --> 00:04:44,308 Speaker 2: never reached him or only reach a part of them. 98 00:04:44,348 --> 00:04:45,948 Speaker 2: But I got to fulfill all of them. And now 99 00:04:45,948 --> 00:04:51,108 Speaker 2: you just kind of reopen the dream journal and you 100 00:04:51,108 --> 00:04:54,228 Speaker 2: get to do things you know were passed your wildest 101 00:04:54,228 --> 00:04:55,548 Speaker 2: imagination at twenty years old. 102 00:04:55,988 --> 00:04:57,988 Speaker 1: And I've talked to a lot of your young teammates 103 00:04:58,588 --> 00:05:01,148 Speaker 1: and they like being around you, and they're really comfortable 104 00:05:01,228 --> 00:05:03,868 Speaker 1: being around you. It's a hard thing to do. You know, 105 00:05:03,948 --> 00:05:06,468 Speaker 1: you've seen the Steve Bushemi meme that how do you 106 00:05:06,508 --> 00:05:09,428 Speaker 1: do fellow kids with the skateboard, right. What is the 107 00:05:09,468 --> 00:05:11,708 Speaker 1: secret of hanging with a twenty one year old or 108 00:05:11,708 --> 00:05:13,988 Speaker 1: twenty year old and making them comfortable, like without going 109 00:05:13,988 --> 00:05:14,708 Speaker 1: full with shemy. 110 00:05:15,188 --> 00:05:17,748 Speaker 2: I think it's the remember and you have two ears 111 00:05:17,788 --> 00:05:20,748 Speaker 2: in one mouth, if you listen twice as much as 112 00:05:20,788 --> 00:05:23,748 Speaker 2: you speak, and I think we all want to be 113 00:05:23,948 --> 00:05:26,828 Speaker 2: heard and understood. You know that involves listening. So you 114 00:05:26,948 --> 00:05:29,748 Speaker 2: got to get to know your teammates and tee them up. Now, 115 00:05:29,748 --> 00:05:32,748 Speaker 2: the younger generation, you know, as I'm the older generation. Now, 116 00:05:34,508 --> 00:05:36,028 Speaker 2: you know, there's not a lot of questions coming back 117 00:05:36,068 --> 00:05:38,068 Speaker 2: to you. That's the way the conversation goes. You've got 118 00:05:38,108 --> 00:05:41,508 Speaker 2: to invest in them, get them comfortable, understand what they're 119 00:05:41,508 --> 00:05:44,188 Speaker 2: all about, figure out what makes them tick, what music 120 00:05:44,228 --> 00:05:46,108 Speaker 2: they like with movies. You got to be up to 121 00:05:46,188 --> 00:05:48,428 Speaker 2: date on your current events. You can have the conversations 122 00:05:49,428 --> 00:05:51,468 Speaker 2: and then create an environment like in the locker room 123 00:05:51,468 --> 00:05:54,188 Speaker 2: where that's the fun corner being we had it last year, 124 00:05:54,228 --> 00:05:55,988 Speaker 2: we got again this year where it's like there's some 125 00:05:56,068 --> 00:05:58,988 Speaker 2: old heads in the back corner and the conversation start 126 00:05:59,068 --> 00:06:00,668 Speaker 2: to see. The guys start to come over a little 127 00:06:00,668 --> 00:06:02,148 Speaker 2: bit going on a little bit. They're interested, you know, 128 00:06:02,148 --> 00:06:03,588 Speaker 2: they want to know what it's all about. They want 129 00:06:03,588 --> 00:06:06,628 Speaker 2: to know not just what we're talking about, but deep down, 130 00:06:06,668 --> 00:06:07,988 Speaker 2: they want to know how do you stick around the 131 00:06:08,028 --> 00:06:11,348 Speaker 2: league for a long time. So it's finding those fun opportunities. 132 00:06:11,388 --> 00:06:13,788 Speaker 2: I always tell guys in training camps, sit with a 133 00:06:13,788 --> 00:06:16,388 Speaker 2: different person that you know every lunch you have, like 134 00:06:16,468 --> 00:06:18,388 Speaker 2: just mix it up, like get to know your teammates, 135 00:06:18,828 --> 00:06:21,788 Speaker 2: because you get to miss out on a great opportunity 136 00:06:21,788 --> 00:06:23,468 Speaker 2: to connect if you just sit with the same guys 137 00:06:23,468 --> 00:06:24,948 Speaker 2: every week. And I love that. I mean, you have 138 00:06:25,068 --> 00:06:27,388 Speaker 2: your core guys and your team. It could be the 139 00:06:27,428 --> 00:06:29,708 Speaker 2: linemen sitting together, the tight ends or whatever it is, 140 00:06:29,748 --> 00:06:31,988 Speaker 2: guys from the same area. But I think there's a 141 00:06:31,988 --> 00:06:34,268 Speaker 2: lot to be said for just finding out that guy 142 00:06:34,268 --> 00:06:36,188 Speaker 2: who's sitting by himself. I mean, we got headphones on, 143 00:06:36,228 --> 00:06:38,188 Speaker 2: give him take his headphones off. We'll talk to them, 144 00:06:38,268 --> 00:06:40,348 Speaker 2: get to know them a little bit, and create a 145 00:06:40,388 --> 00:06:43,188 Speaker 2: environment where there's just a loose, free flowing conversation where 146 00:06:43,188 --> 00:06:45,148 Speaker 2: it's not hey, the you know, mean dads over there 147 00:06:45,148 --> 00:06:46,868 Speaker 2: in the corner, don't really stalk to them. You know, 148 00:06:46,908 --> 00:06:48,908 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you get to start ribbing them a 149 00:06:48,948 --> 00:06:52,108 Speaker 2: little bit, find a nickname, find an insert to a 150 00:06:52,148 --> 00:06:54,588 Speaker 2: conversation that can like always just between you and I. 151 00:06:54,628 --> 00:06:57,148 Speaker 2: It's like Michael Scott says about inside jokes. He always 152 00:06:57,148 --> 00:06:58,548 Speaker 2: wants to be a part of one. You know, you 153 00:06:58,548 --> 00:07:01,308 Speaker 2: have to have those inside jokes with your teammates. Then 154 00:07:01,348 --> 00:07:03,068 Speaker 2: you walking down the hall and you can like mention 155 00:07:03,148 --> 00:07:05,828 Speaker 2: that every time, and it's just in passing. But it 156 00:07:05,948 --> 00:07:08,628 Speaker 2: creates this connection point between two people that thinks so important. 157 00:07:08,908 --> 00:07:11,708 Speaker 2: Whether you're number one on the roster, number sixty nine 158 00:07:11,708 --> 00:07:13,628 Speaker 2: on the roster and the pea squad, you gotta be 159 00:07:13,668 --> 00:07:14,908 Speaker 2: able to connect with our teammates. 160 00:07:14,948 --> 00:07:17,308 Speaker 1: Well, I like that. The Jets don't have a mean 161 00:07:17,388 --> 00:07:19,228 Speaker 1: dad corner, but they do have an old head corner. 162 00:07:19,308 --> 00:07:22,268 Speaker 1: You know, I lived for this stuff, So lay it 163 00:07:22,308 --> 00:07:24,228 Speaker 1: out for me. Is it like you and Morstead and 164 00:07:24,228 --> 00:07:25,948 Speaker 1: what movies side? 165 00:07:26,028 --> 00:07:28,148 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's on the other side. He's not tyrants. 166 00:07:28,188 --> 00:07:31,268 Speaker 2: Next to me, I got you know, I got Kindler 167 00:07:31,308 --> 00:07:34,828 Speaker 2: over there. I got last year we had, you know, 168 00:07:34,948 --> 00:07:36,588 Speaker 2: we had some of the older d line, but I 169 00:07:36,588 --> 00:07:38,628 Speaker 2: got some. I got some Lineman him, I got taxed 170 00:07:38,668 --> 00:07:41,908 Speaker 2: McKinley next to me. Attacks of fat Yeah really guy, 171 00:07:42,188 --> 00:07:45,028 Speaker 2: wild story. But it's just that's how you connect with 172 00:07:45,028 --> 00:07:46,748 Speaker 2: these guys. I mean, the beauty in the NFL locker 173 00:07:46,788 --> 00:07:49,828 Speaker 2: room is sixty nine guys from all over the country 174 00:07:50,028 --> 00:07:53,868 Speaker 2: with crazy backgrounds and crazy stories. Some guys come from privilege, 175 00:07:53,908 --> 00:07:57,628 Speaker 2: some guys come from the gravel from and everybody in between. 176 00:07:58,028 --> 00:08:00,228 Speaker 2: And how do you create these connection points with these guys. 177 00:08:00,228 --> 00:08:01,428 Speaker 2: You just got to get to know them. You got 178 00:08:01,468 --> 00:08:02,948 Speaker 2: to ask some questions, You got to stir it up. 179 00:08:02,948 --> 00:08:06,308 Speaker 2: You gotta start with the inside. Joe and I love it, 180 00:08:06,348 --> 00:08:10,188 Speaker 2: but yeah, the conversation starts getting going and then you 181 00:08:10,268 --> 00:08:11,708 Speaker 2: never know where it goes. Well. 182 00:08:11,748 --> 00:08:13,948 Speaker 1: I think you've become a hero to the forty something 183 00:08:14,028 --> 00:08:17,028 Speaker 1: set that I'm part of, because you now are like 184 00:08:17,148 --> 00:08:19,668 Speaker 1: our rock stars. We are still doing it better in 185 00:08:19,788 --> 00:08:22,788 Speaker 1: headfield and roll, and our guys staff like still selling 186 00:08:22,788 --> 00:08:26,388 Speaker 1: out arenas. They're silver haired too, still kicking ass. What 187 00:08:26,388 --> 00:08:29,868 Speaker 1: do you like about still rocking and still playing football 188 00:08:29,908 --> 00:08:30,468 Speaker 1: in your forties? 189 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:34,028 Speaker 2: Like the football part of that, it's just the unexpected. 190 00:08:34,468 --> 00:08:36,628 Speaker 2: You know, they don't expect you to still be playing, 191 00:08:36,668 --> 00:08:39,468 Speaker 2: to be able to move a little bit, just fighting 192 00:08:39,468 --> 00:08:42,228 Speaker 2: against father time, you know, I think there's something beautiful 193 00:08:42,228 --> 00:08:45,068 Speaker 2: about that. Now. It changes the way you prepare for sure. 194 00:08:45,268 --> 00:08:47,668 Speaker 2: You know, like in my twenties, I could eat a 195 00:08:47,708 --> 00:08:50,868 Speaker 2: bag of Starbus jelly beans and you know, have you know, 196 00:08:50,908 --> 00:08:53,188 Speaker 2: a couple of cheeseburgers from five guys and ever think 197 00:08:53,228 --> 00:08:54,908 Speaker 2: twice about it. Now you gotta be a little bit 198 00:08:54,908 --> 00:08:57,788 Speaker 2: smarter about what's going in and how you spend your time. 199 00:08:57,828 --> 00:09:00,468 Speaker 2: You know, it's constantly like thinking about your body, working 200 00:09:00,508 --> 00:09:02,268 Speaker 2: on your body, make sure and you get stretched out 201 00:09:02,708 --> 00:09:04,308 Speaker 2: mercying some of the old heads. When I was younger, 202 00:09:04,628 --> 00:09:06,948 Speaker 2: always kind of like doing something in the training room 203 00:09:07,068 --> 00:09:09,428 Speaker 2: or the weight room. I was like, man, I'm good. 204 00:09:09,508 --> 00:09:11,988 Speaker 2: You know, I mounts around here, just roll off the current. 205 00:09:12,068 --> 00:09:14,228 Speaker 2: You know, there's years where I would need the ball 206 00:09:14,268 --> 00:09:16,308 Speaker 2: in pregame warm ups. Really, you know, I think the 207 00:09:16,308 --> 00:09:18,348 Speaker 2: pre pregame warm ups we just chat. I would just 208 00:09:18,388 --> 00:09:20,788 Speaker 2: be in locker room messing around and then go out 209 00:09:20,788 --> 00:09:22,628 Speaker 2: there through like ten balls. How do you do that? 210 00:09:22,868 --> 00:09:25,628 Speaker 2: I don't know, It's just seems natural. Now I gotta 211 00:09:25,628 --> 00:09:27,308 Speaker 2: get out, I gotta get loosened up, you know, I 212 00:09:27,388 --> 00:09:29,988 Speaker 2: gotta get the blood flow a little bit. But but 213 00:09:30,068 --> 00:09:31,988 Speaker 2: I love that. I love I love the chance to 214 00:09:32,108 --> 00:09:34,268 Speaker 2: like beat back father time and to continue on this 215 00:09:34,388 --> 00:09:35,628 Speaker 2: and play the way I want to play. 216 00:09:36,108 --> 00:09:38,668 Speaker 1: How's that fight going? Like who's winning? Like, how do 217 00:09:38,708 --> 00:09:39,388 Speaker 1: you feel right now? 218 00:09:39,428 --> 00:09:40,508 Speaker 2: With a stalemate? Right now? 219 00:09:40,508 --> 00:09:40,748 Speaker 1: Really? 220 00:09:40,788 --> 00:09:41,028 Speaker 2: Yeah? 221 00:09:41,148 --> 00:09:42,268 Speaker 1: Just training blows. 222 00:09:41,948 --> 00:09:43,948 Speaker 2: Well just because of the way we started with three 223 00:09:43,948 --> 00:09:46,988 Speaker 2: games eleven days, Like I needed that three day weekend. 224 00:09:47,028 --> 00:09:49,628 Speaker 2: I needed that break because that was a lot on 225 00:09:49,668 --> 00:09:53,228 Speaker 2: the body. But no, we're we're throwing body blows right 226 00:09:53,268 --> 00:09:55,828 Speaker 2: now and the stalemate. 227 00:09:56,308 --> 00:09:58,308 Speaker 1: What goodness is now you get to travel to London. 228 00:09:58,548 --> 00:10:01,588 Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's go. 229 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:04,148 Speaker 1: But what's really cool about it is you get to 230 00:10:04,148 --> 00:10:07,228 Speaker 1: go against your old buddies, the Vikings, and you guys 231 00:10:07,468 --> 00:10:09,268 Speaker 1: had so much hype preseason. You had so much hype 232 00:10:09,268 --> 00:10:12,508 Speaker 1: deservedly so they had none and Sam Donald had none. 233 00:10:12,708 --> 00:10:15,028 Speaker 1: And now they're probably the coolest story in the NFL. 234 00:10:15,108 --> 00:10:15,948 Speaker 1: What do you make of them? 235 00:10:16,788 --> 00:10:18,548 Speaker 2: I love it for Sam. I've got no Sam over 236 00:10:18,548 --> 00:10:20,628 Speaker 2: the years. He comes to my charity Flight Football event. 237 00:10:20,668 --> 00:10:23,708 Speaker 2: He's a great dude. He's been through a lot, you know, 238 00:10:23,908 --> 00:10:27,668 Speaker 2: top pick to a couple of different teams, and he 239 00:10:27,788 --> 00:10:31,588 Speaker 2: was here, you know, and things didn't work out, and 240 00:10:31,628 --> 00:10:34,908 Speaker 2: then sometimes it just takes that one season where you're 241 00:10:34,988 --> 00:10:37,068 Speaker 2: kind of I think San Francisco Depp for him, where 242 00:10:37,068 --> 00:10:39,148 Speaker 2: he was part of like a real good organization, a 243 00:10:39,188 --> 00:10:42,148 Speaker 2: great play call, that great offense, and started to feel 244 00:10:42,508 --> 00:10:45,628 Speaker 2: like his confidence was coming back. And then goes to 245 00:10:45,668 --> 00:10:47,868 Speaker 2: Minnesota and what they do. They draft the guy to 246 00:10:47,908 --> 00:10:49,908 Speaker 2: be the guy and then he's out for the year 247 00:10:49,948 --> 00:10:52,148 Speaker 2: and it's your shot. What are you gonna do with it? 248 00:10:52,188 --> 00:10:54,588 Speaker 2: So I really like Sam. I think he's a great dude. 249 00:10:54,588 --> 00:10:57,108 Speaker 2: I'm really happy for him. They have like character guys. 250 00:10:57,148 --> 00:10:59,948 Speaker 2: It seems like, sure they got the guy from Miami 251 00:11:00,068 --> 00:11:02,188 Speaker 2: with the great hair, you know, who seems like one 252 00:11:02,228 --> 00:11:05,388 Speaker 2: of those like blue guys. Aaron Jones is the biggest 253 00:11:05,388 --> 00:11:07,588 Speaker 2: school guy and maybe I've ever been around, you know, 254 00:11:07,628 --> 00:11:09,508 Speaker 2: one of the best teammates ever, like a guy who 255 00:11:09,588 --> 00:11:12,428 Speaker 2: just loves ball, goes by his business. It's all about 256 00:11:12,428 --> 00:11:15,068 Speaker 2: the right stuff. Then you have, you know, superstars, the 257 00:11:15,228 --> 00:11:17,828 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson's the world obviously he was fantastic player, and 258 00:11:17,868 --> 00:11:20,388 Speaker 2: then the right pieces. It looks like in between that 259 00:11:20,468 --> 00:11:23,428 Speaker 2: you got to Kevin O'Connell, my all workout buddy, you know, 260 00:11:23,508 --> 00:11:25,388 Speaker 2: seems to be figuring out on the offensive side. And 261 00:11:25,708 --> 00:11:28,628 Speaker 2: coach Flores, who's you know, a well respected decoordinated for 262 00:11:28,708 --> 00:11:31,508 Speaker 2: a long time in the league. So it's all coming together, 263 00:11:31,588 --> 00:11:33,788 Speaker 2: but it's it's the glue guys that make the thing go, 264 00:11:34,268 --> 00:11:36,428 Speaker 2: you know. So you can have the superstars and you 265 00:11:36,428 --> 00:11:39,028 Speaker 2: get the guys who just know their role, embrace their role, 266 00:11:39,668 --> 00:11:42,868 Speaker 2: and that's what elevates the entire team. So but I 267 00:11:42,908 --> 00:11:47,108 Speaker 2: will say, you know, selfishly, when I knew that we 268 00:11:47,148 --> 00:11:49,988 Speaker 2: would be playing against Sante North, you know, I was 269 00:11:50,028 --> 00:11:52,308 Speaker 2: watching that last week eighteen of the season to see 270 00:11:52,348 --> 00:11:53,868 Speaker 2: how it shake out, because at the time it could 271 00:11:53,868 --> 00:11:58,068 Speaker 2: have been Minnesota, Green Bay or Chicago, and I was thinking, 272 00:11:58,708 --> 00:12:00,148 Speaker 2: you know, it'd be fun to go back because there's 273 00:12:00,148 --> 00:12:01,868 Speaker 2: gonna be a real game for sure, to be able 274 00:12:01,868 --> 00:12:04,708 Speaker 2: to play in Chicago, Green Beer or Minnesota again. Obviously 275 00:12:04,748 --> 00:12:07,588 Speaker 2: played a lot in all those places, mostly in Lambo, 276 00:12:07,748 --> 00:12:11,548 Speaker 2: but a lot of great memories at Soldier Field, and 277 00:12:12,068 --> 00:12:14,268 Speaker 2: a lot of memories you know, good and bad at 278 00:12:14,308 --> 00:12:16,788 Speaker 2: the US Bank and the other two stadiums we played 279 00:12:16,788 --> 00:12:20,108 Speaker 2: at too. So although you know it's London International, was 280 00:12:20,148 --> 00:12:22,468 Speaker 2: great for our sport. It's exciting. We played Tottenham a 281 00:12:22,508 --> 00:12:25,268 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. It's great. Selfishly, I was hoping 282 00:12:25,308 --> 00:12:26,708 Speaker 2: it was going to be one of those stadiums. 283 00:12:27,428 --> 00:12:29,028 Speaker 1: Well, what were you thinking if it would have been Lambo, 284 00:12:29,388 --> 00:12:30,108 Speaker 1: it would have been wild. 285 00:12:30,468 --> 00:12:32,628 Speaker 2: I mean I saw it in two thousand and nine, 286 00:12:32,668 --> 00:12:34,868 Speaker 2: when you know, we played one of the wildest games 287 00:12:34,868 --> 00:12:37,188 Speaker 2: ever as far as like pregame hype in the old 288 00:12:37,228 --> 00:12:40,308 Speaker 2: Metrodome the first time, and then they came to us 289 00:12:40,388 --> 00:12:41,948 Speaker 2: later in the season and they had a really good 290 00:12:41,948 --> 00:12:45,388 Speaker 2: team and we had both games were battles back and forth. 291 00:12:46,108 --> 00:12:49,788 Speaker 2: I just remember just the excitement was absolutely wild. I 292 00:12:49,828 --> 00:12:52,068 Speaker 2: know Jones, he just went back to Lambo and had 293 00:12:52,068 --> 00:12:53,588 Speaker 2: a good game, didn't score, but he say he was 294 00:12:53,628 --> 00:12:56,068 Speaker 2: an leap. I mean, that would have been wild. I've 295 00:12:56,108 --> 00:12:58,148 Speaker 2: been in that locker room. It's not the greatest visiting 296 00:12:58,228 --> 00:12:59,988 Speaker 2: locker room. I mean, I think we can all say that, 297 00:13:00,108 --> 00:13:03,428 Speaker 2: like has Green Bay, you know, lovers and also what 298 00:13:03,468 --> 00:13:05,948 Speaker 2: that is, you know done. You know, plenty of interviews 299 00:13:05,948 --> 00:13:07,388 Speaker 2: and different things in that locker room. Not the great 300 00:13:07,468 --> 00:13:09,868 Speaker 2: locker room. And then you walk down this real tight 301 00:13:09,948 --> 00:13:13,228 Speaker 2: corridor in the back of the South end zone. It 302 00:13:13,268 --> 00:13:15,628 Speaker 2: would have been a lot of wild emotions, for sure. 303 00:13:15,828 --> 00:13:17,948 Speaker 2: It would have been great emotions. Going back to Chicago 304 00:13:17,988 --> 00:13:20,228 Speaker 2: as well, place that we've had a lot of success 305 00:13:20,228 --> 00:13:22,668 Speaker 2: over the years, a lot of great memories, winning AFTY 306 00:13:22,748 --> 00:13:25,748 Speaker 2: Championship there, the Game of thirteen, the Game at sixteen. 307 00:13:27,108 --> 00:13:28,508 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of a lot of really fun 308 00:13:28,548 --> 00:13:30,948 Speaker 2: moments in US Bank. There's been some big highs and 309 00:13:30,988 --> 00:13:32,788 Speaker 2: some rough ones. I broke my collar bone there. We 310 00:13:33,308 --> 00:13:35,148 Speaker 2: beat there the first time that thing opened. You know, 311 00:13:35,188 --> 00:13:36,908 Speaker 2: we had a couple of winnesday. We want a University 312 00:13:36,908 --> 00:13:39,308 Speaker 2: of Minnesota. We won the old Metro, so a lot 313 00:13:39,308 --> 00:13:42,028 Speaker 2: of history there. But it'll be you know, it's a 314 00:13:42,068 --> 00:13:44,188 Speaker 2: lot of you know, see what the crowd's like, but 315 00:13:44,268 --> 00:13:45,908 Speaker 2: it won't be the same as being a US Bank. 316 00:13:46,388 --> 00:13:48,628 Speaker 1: Well, you're also going against a really tough team, you know, 317 00:13:48,788 --> 00:13:50,548 Speaker 1: so you didn't get any luck in that regard. The 318 00:13:50,588 --> 00:13:52,668 Speaker 1: thing that stuff about you is you have to continue 319 00:13:52,708 --> 00:13:55,028 Speaker 1: this fight against Spot a time, and there's all these 320 00:13:55,028 --> 00:13:56,628 Speaker 1: other fights and all these other things you have to 321 00:13:56,668 --> 00:14:00,388 Speaker 1: tend to. Right now, what is more challenging for you 322 00:14:00,388 --> 00:14:03,068 Speaker 1: You've been through so many things. Is it continuing to 323 00:14:03,068 --> 00:14:05,988 Speaker 1: develop chemistry with the are wide out or is it 324 00:14:06,028 --> 00:14:08,588 Speaker 1: maybe continue to develop trust with the head coach? 325 00:14:09,348 --> 00:14:13,468 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's it's really neither of those. You know, 326 00:14:13,588 --> 00:14:16,108 Speaker 2: I don't worry about those things. You know, My focus 327 00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:18,868 Speaker 2: is on what it takes to win, and that's the preparation. 328 00:14:18,988 --> 00:14:21,428 Speaker 2: Each week. There's a lot of stories, naturally, because we're 329 00:14:21,468 --> 00:14:24,548 Speaker 2: in the New York market that most of the time 330 00:14:24,628 --> 00:14:27,988 Speaker 2: don't have any legitimate legs, and they're just talking points 331 00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:31,708 Speaker 2: outside the building, whether it's me pushing Sala, you know, 332 00:14:31,788 --> 00:14:34,348 Speaker 2: which is something he loves doing. He loves pushing his guys. 333 00:14:34,668 --> 00:14:37,188 Speaker 2: That was weird, But they didn't show the post game 334 00:14:37,268 --> 00:14:40,708 Speaker 2: hog it and I love you, and you know, I 335 00:14:40,708 --> 00:14:42,348 Speaker 2: think that's the way it goes. You know, when we're 336 00:14:42,428 --> 00:14:44,308 Speaker 2: up and I said it after San Fran we're gonna 337 00:14:44,308 --> 00:14:46,148 Speaker 2: wear next two and then everybody's gonna love us up. 338 00:14:46,148 --> 00:14:48,068 Speaker 2: And I love us up for ten days and then 339 00:14:48,068 --> 00:14:50,308 Speaker 2: we laid an egg. You know. Now the whole world's 340 00:14:50,348 --> 00:14:52,348 Speaker 2: come crashing down. That's this market. There's a lot of 341 00:14:52,428 --> 00:14:53,868 Speaker 2: ups and a lot of downs. It's the beauty in 342 00:14:53,948 --> 00:14:56,628 Speaker 2: it because there's so many lessons in that. But it's 343 00:14:56,668 --> 00:15:00,028 Speaker 2: also a challenge if mentally you're not able to stay 344 00:15:00,068 --> 00:15:01,988 Speaker 2: even killed and handle the ups and the downs of 345 00:15:01,988 --> 00:15:05,468 Speaker 2: the season. This is normal. There's adversity every single year, 346 00:15:05,588 --> 00:15:08,348 Speaker 2: no matter if you're playing in Green Bay, Jacksonville or 347 00:15:08,828 --> 00:15:12,028 Speaker 2: New York, New York. You know, we're New Jersey, but 348 00:15:13,628 --> 00:15:16,468 Speaker 2: we have to stay off of the roller coaster and 349 00:15:16,508 --> 00:15:19,828 Speaker 2: just ride that nice little even wave and not get 350 00:15:19,828 --> 00:15:21,708 Speaker 2: too high and too low with these ups and downs 351 00:15:21,748 --> 00:15:24,668 Speaker 2: that are going to happen naturally. I'm talking about myself, 352 00:15:25,628 --> 00:15:28,388 Speaker 2: the youngest player in the team, and our ownership and 353 00:15:28,468 --> 00:15:30,108 Speaker 2: fan base. You know, we got to stay the course. 354 00:15:30,628 --> 00:15:32,708 Speaker 1: I heard from someone in New York media, and you 355 00:15:32,708 --> 00:15:35,068 Speaker 1: can tell you this is tuur or not. That Monday 356 00:15:35,068 --> 00:15:38,588 Speaker 1: morning you walked into Sala's office, cleared off his desk 357 00:15:39,028 --> 00:15:40,588 Speaker 1: and said, I love you, but you're gonna take my 358 00:15:40,668 --> 00:15:42,908 Speaker 1: cadence from my cold dead hands, Bob, and then. 359 00:15:42,828 --> 00:15:43,308 Speaker 2: You walked out. 360 00:15:44,748 --> 00:15:47,788 Speaker 1: I heard that happen. I have sources, Aaron, Yeah, I 361 00:15:47,868 --> 00:15:48,868 Speaker 1: don't think that happened. 362 00:15:48,908 --> 00:15:51,828 Speaker 2: No, might have been blacked out for that. I don't 363 00:15:51,868 --> 00:15:54,068 Speaker 2: think that happens. No. 364 00:15:54,148 --> 00:15:57,388 Speaker 1: Okay, did not confirm, actually did not put it on record. 365 00:15:57,428 --> 00:15:59,028 Speaker 1: He didn't. You mentioned the fans. I want to talk 366 00:15:59,028 --> 00:16:01,868 Speaker 1: about Jets fans. You became the first player this year 367 00:16:02,188 --> 00:16:06,028 Speaker 1: to reference ASoP. Yeah, just love and his fables, and 368 00:16:06,028 --> 00:16:08,108 Speaker 1: you talk about Tortoise and the hair. I got some 369 00:16:08,148 --> 00:16:09,228 Speaker 1: brothers grimm for you. 370 00:16:09,308 --> 00:16:12,268 Speaker 2: Okay, chicken Little. Yeah, you know, Chicken Little. You know, 371 00:16:12,548 --> 00:16:13,868 Speaker 2: guys falling constantly. 372 00:16:13,908 --> 00:16:17,868 Speaker 1: This guy's falling. That's the Jets fans. They're they're hardwired 373 00:16:17,908 --> 00:16:21,548 Speaker 1: for paranoia. They're addicted to misery. This guy was falling 374 00:16:21,588 --> 00:16:24,708 Speaker 1: after the Niners game. This guy's falling after the Broncos game. 375 00:16:24,828 --> 00:16:26,748 Speaker 1: Do you feel that stuff from the fan base. 376 00:16:27,188 --> 00:16:30,668 Speaker 2: I mean I sent it. Yeah, we just feel the 377 00:16:30,748 --> 00:16:34,628 Speaker 2: general attitude. You know. It's it's they're riding the roller coaster. 378 00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:36,668 Speaker 2: You know, they went to the top of the Grizzly 379 00:16:36,748 --> 00:16:40,188 Speaker 2: and uh, you know in Great America, and that at 380 00:16:40,228 --> 00:16:42,788 Speaker 2: some point it's going to crescendo, is going to get 381 00:16:42,828 --> 00:16:46,388 Speaker 2: to the crest. We got to ride that with a 382 00:16:46,468 --> 00:16:49,828 Speaker 2: happy face. Yes, you know, because roller coaster levers and 383 00:16:49,868 --> 00:16:52,268 Speaker 2: I'm not one of them. The best part of it 384 00:16:52,308 --> 00:16:55,748 Speaker 2: is that drop, right, is that you know, and you're 385 00:16:56,148 --> 00:16:58,268 Speaker 2: going up. I've been on this ride one time at 386 00:16:58,308 --> 00:16:58,868 Speaker 2: Great America. 387 00:16:59,668 --> 00:17:01,708 Speaker 1: This is a Magic Mounta in California, Great America where 388 00:17:01,748 --> 00:17:05,948 Speaker 1: Great America Yeah, okay, six Flags Yeah, and it's. 389 00:17:05,788 --> 00:17:07,948 Speaker 2: Just rickety and you're just like, what the hell am 390 00:17:07,988 --> 00:17:09,868 Speaker 2: I doing? Why am I on this thing? And it's 391 00:17:09,868 --> 00:17:13,068 Speaker 2: probably not having that bad because I'm terrified when you 392 00:17:13,108 --> 00:17:15,868 Speaker 2: get to the top, and that's the part where your 393 00:17:15,908 --> 00:17:18,548 Speaker 2: stomach drops. But then you realize it's all gonna be okay. 394 00:17:19,268 --> 00:17:21,348 Speaker 2: You know you're gonna be okay. There's actually no ups 395 00:17:21,388 --> 00:17:22,908 Speaker 2: and downs in that ride. I think it's just a 396 00:17:22,908 --> 00:17:26,508 Speaker 2: couple like big drops. That's the season. The season is 397 00:17:26,508 --> 00:17:28,788 Speaker 2: there's some high points and there's some point where you 398 00:17:28,828 --> 00:17:31,028 Speaker 2: feel like, am I going to be okay? 399 00:17:31,108 --> 00:17:32,308 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're. 400 00:17:32,148 --> 00:17:34,868 Speaker 2: Gonna hit the bottom of that and start climbing again 401 00:17:34,868 --> 00:17:36,468 Speaker 2: and you're gonna be okay. I think it's a great 402 00:17:36,988 --> 00:17:40,028 Speaker 2: analogy for the season. But we can't get so excited 403 00:17:40,068 --> 00:17:43,988 Speaker 2: about the climb that we can't handle the initial hitting 404 00:17:44,068 --> 00:17:47,868 Speaker 2: our stomach from a tough outing. The adversity. 405 00:17:48,828 --> 00:17:50,868 Speaker 1: That's a great, great one that is perfect because you 406 00:17:50,908 --> 00:17:52,228 Speaker 1: do feel great after the stomach drops. 407 00:17:52,228 --> 00:17:53,388 Speaker 2: And I never went on that right again. 408 00:17:53,508 --> 00:17:56,068 Speaker 1: No, you're done, one and done. However, I'll add to 409 00:17:56,108 --> 00:17:59,428 Speaker 1: your comparison on the roller coasters. There's also a photograph 410 00:17:59,468 --> 00:18:04,508 Speaker 1: that gets taken. Yeah, yeah, exactly, like a souvenir the 411 00:18:04,508 --> 00:18:07,148 Speaker 1: Broncos game. There's an image of you on the bench 412 00:18:07,268 --> 00:18:09,188 Speaker 1: in the game. You're very emotionally lost. You got a 413 00:18:09,188 --> 00:18:11,708 Speaker 1: toile of your head. And the number one Internet joke 414 00:18:11,988 --> 00:18:16,628 Speaker 1: about that is and that's the moment Aaron Rodgers officially 415 00:18:16,668 --> 00:18:18,828 Speaker 1: became a New York Jet. And those are from Jets fans, 416 00:18:18,988 --> 00:18:21,948 Speaker 1: like self loathing Jets fans. That's the picture on the 417 00:18:21,988 --> 00:18:25,948 Speaker 1: roller coaster. Can you cure that the same old Jets disease? 418 00:18:25,988 --> 00:18:27,508 Speaker 1: Do you think you personally can cure it? 419 00:18:27,908 --> 00:18:30,148 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it takes a collective effort. 420 00:18:30,148 --> 00:18:33,908 Speaker 2: You know, it takes all of us, including the fan base, 421 00:18:33,988 --> 00:18:36,628 Speaker 2: to just have a little belief and understand the power 422 00:18:36,628 --> 00:18:39,708 Speaker 2: of manifestation is in the intention and the attention. So 423 00:18:39,748 --> 00:18:42,828 Speaker 2: the intention is the goal and the intention is the focus. 424 00:18:43,428 --> 00:18:45,668 Speaker 2: So we have to keep our eyes on the goal 425 00:18:45,748 --> 00:18:47,908 Speaker 2: and stay focused on that. That's how you manifest the 426 00:18:47,908 --> 00:18:50,508 Speaker 2: desires of your heart. And I think we all want 427 00:18:50,548 --> 00:18:52,828 Speaker 2: to get to a certain spot you know that we 428 00:18:52,948 --> 00:18:56,148 Speaker 2: know we can achieve, and that's players, that's coaches, that's 429 00:18:56,148 --> 00:18:59,348 Speaker 2: the organization, and that's the fans. So if we're all 430 00:18:59,748 --> 00:19:03,228 Speaker 2: having the right thoughts, I get it. I also understand 431 00:19:03,428 --> 00:19:06,268 Speaker 2: what this organizations went through, and we're going to have 432 00:19:06,268 --> 00:19:10,828 Speaker 2: to win consistently to kind of start to turn that side. 433 00:19:10,988 --> 00:19:13,348 Speaker 1: I have one more question for you, and I want 434 00:19:13,388 --> 00:19:15,068 Speaker 1: to shift gears dramatically, but I know you're one of 435 00:19:15,068 --> 00:19:16,788 Speaker 1: the few guys who can do that, and I'm serious. 436 00:19:17,268 --> 00:19:20,348 Speaker 1: One of the coolest ways to calibrate your career is 437 00:19:20,388 --> 00:19:23,428 Speaker 1: that this is going to be the fifth presidential election 438 00:19:23,508 --> 00:19:24,668 Speaker 1: that you will go through in your career. 439 00:19:24,788 --> 00:19:25,948 Speaker 2: Oh well, the fifth one. 440 00:19:26,668 --> 00:19:28,428 Speaker 1: Think about that if you started and the first one 441 00:19:28,588 --> 00:19:31,988 Speaker 1: was a W eight and twelve. Yeah, and obviously this 442 00:19:32,108 --> 00:19:36,228 Speaker 1: is a fiery election. How do you handle that as 443 00:19:36,228 --> 00:19:39,108 Speaker 1: a team and what is the best way, especially that week, 444 00:19:39,348 --> 00:19:41,828 Speaker 1: to stay united as a team through something that could 445 00:19:41,828 --> 00:19:42,668 Speaker 1: be so divisive. 446 00:19:43,388 --> 00:19:46,268 Speaker 2: I think one myth about the locker room is that 447 00:19:46,308 --> 00:19:54,748 Speaker 2: there is major divides, whether it's personality divides or political 448 00:19:55,828 --> 00:20:00,388 Speaker 2: beliefs or religious beliefs. There's a I think, an ingrained, 449 00:20:01,188 --> 00:20:06,308 Speaker 2: natural appreciation for all of the things you bring to 450 00:20:06,348 --> 00:20:08,308 Speaker 2: the table. And that's why you can get along with 451 00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:14,508 Speaker 2: the guy from you know, Po Dunk, Mississippi, Chico, California, 452 00:20:14,868 --> 00:20:17,548 Speaker 2: New York, New York, Columbus, So High or whatever it 453 00:20:17,628 --> 00:20:23,068 Speaker 2: might be. Naturally, there's some appreciation for the background. And 454 00:20:23,148 --> 00:20:25,708 Speaker 2: when there's a prayer in the locker room, it isn't 455 00:20:25,748 --> 00:20:29,788 Speaker 2: like a big deal for somebody who's atheist or a 456 00:20:29,788 --> 00:20:33,908 Speaker 2: Buddhist or Muslim, like I got to be away from this. 457 00:20:34,228 --> 00:20:38,948 Speaker 2: You know, where there's opinions about politics, people don't get 458 00:20:38,948 --> 00:20:41,548 Speaker 2: shut down. I think in society outside of the locker room, 459 00:20:42,028 --> 00:20:44,508 Speaker 2: if you disagree with me, immediately we have to have 460 00:20:44,548 --> 00:20:47,228 Speaker 2: a problem, and there's no way of going okayle, you 461 00:20:47,228 --> 00:20:49,588 Speaker 2: believe in this and I believe in this, and maybe 462 00:20:49,588 --> 00:20:51,788 Speaker 2: you don't agree on that, but it doesn't change the 463 00:20:51,788 --> 00:20:53,748 Speaker 2: fact that I can respect your character. You and I 464 00:20:53,748 --> 00:20:56,948 Speaker 2: can be friends in the locker room. There isn't that 465 00:20:57,028 --> 00:21:00,988 Speaker 2: same divide that's in society. An appreciation for all types 466 00:21:01,028 --> 00:21:05,588 Speaker 2: of beliefs, all types of thoughts, and guys aren't quickly 467 00:21:05,668 --> 00:21:09,308 Speaker 2: like shut down like society. It's like name call, cancel, 468 00:21:09,748 --> 00:21:13,468 Speaker 2: silence on both sides. Oh you're you were in this side, 469 00:21:13,548 --> 00:21:14,868 Speaker 2: Oh you're this and this and this, Oh you're in 470 00:21:14,868 --> 00:21:16,708 Speaker 2: this idea, this is this. In the locker room, it's 471 00:21:16,748 --> 00:21:19,548 Speaker 2: not like that. We all have each other's back, And 472 00:21:19,588 --> 00:21:21,988 Speaker 2: I think that's when a bad locker room gets divisive. 473 00:21:22,908 --> 00:21:26,468 Speaker 2: Good locker rooms appreciate all walks of life, where you 474 00:21:26,508 --> 00:21:28,668 Speaker 2: come from, what you believe in and maybe you and 475 00:21:28,748 --> 00:21:30,308 Speaker 2: I don't see II on that, but I don't say 476 00:21:30,348 --> 00:21:32,668 Speaker 2: the fact that I got your back. I'm gonna stand 477 00:21:32,668 --> 00:21:34,988 Speaker 2: by you. I'm gonna back you up in the locker room, 478 00:21:35,028 --> 00:21:37,308 Speaker 2: on the field, and the media. And I guess the 479 00:21:37,348 --> 00:21:41,308 Speaker 2: beauty in the team, especially a team that's really tight knit. 480 00:21:41,508 --> 00:21:42,948 Speaker 1: Do you think you have all those locker rooms here? 481 00:21:43,028 --> 00:21:44,628 Speaker 2: I think we do. I think we do. It takes 482 00:21:45,028 --> 00:21:48,748 Speaker 2: combination of the overall structure that's in place and then 483 00:21:49,068 --> 00:21:52,748 Speaker 2: releasing the control into the hands of leadership. And I 484 00:21:52,788 --> 00:21:55,788 Speaker 2: think we have good leadership on this team. We have 485 00:21:55,868 --> 00:21:58,268 Speaker 2: the right combination of the old heads who've kind of 486 00:21:58,308 --> 00:22:01,428 Speaker 2: been there, done that, the young guys who are real hungry, 487 00:22:01,668 --> 00:22:04,068 Speaker 2: and those middle guys who are so important were stepping 488 00:22:04,068 --> 00:22:07,108 Speaker 2: in their stardom and are starting to show that leadership 489 00:22:07,388 --> 00:22:10,388 Speaker 2: ability that's that's innate in anybody who's on the way 490 00:22:10,428 --> 00:22:13,908 Speaker 2: up into superstardom. So I like where we're at. We're 491 00:22:13,908 --> 00:22:19,428 Speaker 2: going through adversity, it's a long season and hopefully, you know, 492 00:22:19,508 --> 00:22:21,268 Speaker 2: we'll just take this thing one week at a time. 493 00:22:21,308 --> 00:22:23,788 Speaker 2: I cliches, but the fact is, you've got to be 494 00:22:23,828 --> 00:22:27,308 Speaker 2: tunnel vision in this league and I know our fans 495 00:22:27,348 --> 00:22:30,428 Speaker 2: and organizations sometimes can get away from that, but the players, 496 00:22:30,428 --> 00:22:32,988 Speaker 2: we got to stay tight and stay televisioned. You're to 497 00:22:32,988 --> 00:22:36,428 Speaker 2: do a cliche everyone while one. 498 00:22:36,308 --> 00:22:38,268 Speaker 1: Is fine, dude, it's I really mean it. It's awesome 499 00:22:38,308 --> 00:22:39,468 Speaker 1: to see you and thank you for doing this.