1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Ard our Clay and Buck kicks off now, and our 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: friend Ryan Gerdusky joins us. He's got the podcast It's 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: a numbers game. And the Clay and Buck network also 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: writes a fantastic substack which you should subscribe to. Speaking 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: of a substack, here's the latest. Trump's gold visa is 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: bad policy. I saw this in my inbox this morning 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: and I talked to Ryan. I said, you know, Ryan, 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: there's somebody that I know quite well who thinks it 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: is not bad policy, who is very excited about this. 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: And I want to just let you two step into 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: the thunderdome over it and I get to just eat 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: the popcorn and watch. Clay says that you could. You 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: should just exactly what you think about this policy. You 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: will not hurt his feelings. Clay's is not a not 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: a thin skinned individual when it comes to the gold 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: card policy. So take me through your argument here, because 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: I to be fair yesterday I said, you know, I 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: don't love it. I don't hate it. I see some 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: problems with it. Clay thinks, amazing, you think not a 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: good idea. 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: Why so the policy that Trump's ceran says, first of all, one, 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: there's legality problems. Right, the president does not have the 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: power to create a new green card process all on 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: his own, So how does he sit there and offer 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: a green card process. It would be through some kind 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: of wrangling that Biden had with illegal immigrants to basically 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: offer them a pathway into the country legally illegally but 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: have a five million dollar hold. It doesn't really make sense, 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: and it's not something that a lot of wealthy individuals 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: would do because there's a lot of legality problems. That's 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: first of all. Secondly, he says it's to replace the 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: EB five visa. The president does not have the ability 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: to end visas on his own. That's another problem with it. 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: The EB five visa, which is what people are comparing 35 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: this to, is a visa that if wealthy people can 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: invest eight hundred thousand to one million dollars in this 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: country and higher Americans in low income areas ten Americans 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: and low income areas, they can get an E five viasa, 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: a green cart and citizenship on like a seven year process, 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: a fast track the citizenship. But it's eight hundred thousand 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: to one million dollars. In low income areas, they can't 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: have visas. H one B or H two B visas. 43 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: It has to be ten American citizens over that time period. 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: A lot of problems with the system, tons of fraud. 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's a big, big thing. Like Chuck Schumer 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: loves it because he was able to get a lot 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: of projects on Manhattan, which is not a low income area, 48 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: but they would drew districts into Central Park anyway. Lots 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: of fraud, lots of problems, lots of issues. So in 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: his statement, Trump and the Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick, 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: sit there and say, the problem with the EB five 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: visa is there's too many regulations on it. We want 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: an easy five million dollars you get in the country 54 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: one two three with the promise that they'll bring jobs. Well, 55 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: if there's no strings attached, well then there's no problems 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: that they're going to bring jobs. It's only going to 57 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: hire Americans. They could just create an LLC in Delaware 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: said they made a business. It doesn't really matter. Okay, 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: let's say he does and he's promising up to the 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: Lutinx those two hundred and fifty thousand people, which is 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: a one point two five trillion dollar payouts in the 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: American government for Trump says it could be ten million 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 2: through fifty trillion. First of all, there are not ten 64 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: million people in the world that have five million dollars 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: of easy capital. So the only way that they get 66 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: ten million people is if you have foreign government sponsoring people, 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 2: which is problematic from. 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: What Let me let me pause you here for a 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: sec because I did I like this policy, but I'm 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: not going to get into the back and forth right now, 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: because I do think one of the questions that I 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: had that was most significant is what a lot of 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: people would call a total total addressable market. That is 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: buck and eyword debating Ryan, how many people actually have 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: five million dollars liquid? 76 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: Right? 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: That is, you could stroke a check four five million dollars. 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: You're saying there's only ten million, Like, where does that 79 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: number come from? 80 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: According to according to the Helleni Partners, right, this is 81 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: a rapport from twenty twenty four. Of the wealthy people 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: in the world, sixteen million people have five million dollars 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: at least thirty Because if you have five million dollars, 84 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: a lot of it's tied up into your property, into 85 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: your thisa So that's. 86 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: Why so cut you off. 87 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: That's why we said yesterday and a lot of people 88 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: kind of push back that there's a difference between having 89 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: a house that's valuable and being a millionaire and being 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: able to write a check with one million dollars liquid. 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: What I asked, and I think this is important, sorry 92 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: to cut you off, is five million dollars. This basically 93 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: means if you wanted to buy a painting, right you're 94 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: at a fabulous event, you could just stroke a check 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: five million dollars and that cash would be out in 96 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: a week or whatever. 97 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 4: It is. 98 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: Right, how many people can actually do that is in 99 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: some respect the total addressable market. 100 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: Right. The Kabenighi Research Institute put out a say, this 101 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: is only two point six million people worldwide have that 102 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: kind of money, and a third of them already live 103 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: in the United States. So you're talking about maybe one 104 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: point eight million people globally have that kind of money. 105 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: That that's low to me, but that is if that 106 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: is accurate, then it would suggest the high end of 107 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: this policy best case scenario is not actually very high. 108 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: It's not very very high to begin with. And let's 109 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: say they were to get a million people and get 110 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: five trillion dollars into the government's hands. Five trillion dollars 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: is what we spend on the deficit every two years. 112 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: We could the Congress could piss away this money shorter 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: than you could have Irish twins. That's how quickly we're 114 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: spending money. 115 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: I get it, Ryan, But wouldn't it be a good 116 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: thing if it were possible to say, for every single 117 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: dollar we bring in, in the event that there is 118 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: a market for this, everything goes to paying down the debt. 119 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: It doesn't go anywhere else. In other words, I get 120 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: your argument. Five trillion on a thirty six trillion dollar 121 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: national debt is not a massive difference, but it's better 122 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: than nothing, right and right now. 123 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: My argument, yeah, I agree with you, But the problem is, 124 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm not talking to debt. I'm just talking the deficit. 125 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm talking what we will accumulate if we put it 126 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: to the debt that will be back in twenty twenty seven. Like, yeah, 127 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: I would agree with you. Hut, if we were deficit neutral, 128 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: I would one hundred percent agree with you. That's a 129 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: great way of paying down the debt. We're not deficit neutral. 130 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: We run a two trillion dollar debt. That's the problem. Sorry, 131 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: two trillion dollar deficit every year, so that deficit is 132 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: going to replace this entire thing for a million people 133 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: plus their family members, which is a larger population that 134 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: decided the last three presidential elections. So they will have 135 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: a right to vote within five years. This is what 136 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: Trump's saying, fast track the citizenship, right to vote anywhere. 137 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: He's saying China can apply for it, Russian oligus can 138 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: buy for it. Anyone can have been a lot in 139 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: the family could apply for it. Anyone can apply with it. 140 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: This so they have five million in cash, they could 141 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: apply for this gold card visa, get citizenship in a 142 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: five year period and be voting before JD. Evans is 143 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: running in twenty twenty eight. That is what Trump is 144 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: offering these people. This is and four by the way, 145 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: something that will not last toward the end of his 146 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: entire first term. 147 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: We can I ask, can I ask a question right 148 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: about that? Do we understand what the legality of this 149 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: would be in terms of you know a lot of stuff, 150 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Clay and I think I've seen this with some of 151 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: the big executive orders and everything. So far it's going 152 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: to go to the courts, right, We knew the Anchor 153 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: baby thing going to the courts. We know someone is 154 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: going to the courts. How would the president be able 155 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: to do this without congressional action or would he need 156 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: congressional action? 157 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: It seems to me he would. 158 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the EB five is that we give out 159 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: ten thousand a year. That's it. So he's basically saying, 160 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: we're going to increase the EB four. We're going to 161 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: replace the EB five. Ye is that increase all the 162 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: numbers and increase the caps beyond the congressional limit. He 163 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: doesn't have that authority at all, so that would be 164 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: immediately in the courts. What he would do is do 165 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: a parole authority, which is what Biden was doing and 166 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: Obama is doing to allow all these illegal aliens. And 167 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: parole was a presidential power for people who were like 168 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: their parents were dying in the United States and they 169 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: wanted to fly out but they didn't have a correct visa. 170 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: A president would parole a single person, and then under 171 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: ob Obama started parolling millions of people, and Biden even 172 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: exacerbated the issue. Trump's been very against parole authority during 173 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: his first term and during a second. That's really his 174 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: only loophole. But there's not a legality into getting a 175 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: green card from that. So you're asking very wealthy, high 176 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: income people who could probably get a citizenship the long way, 177 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: very very easily, by saying we're going to short term 178 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: it by this parole program that I don't really have 179 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: legal authority too, So you're going to be in the 180 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: gray zone for quite a bit of time while we 181 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: sell this in courts. I don't think a lot of 182 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: wealthy individuals unless they are sponsored by governments. Which he 183 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: did not sit there and say if he's against or for. 184 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: He was saying, anyone could qualify Russian, Holi Arts, the Chinese, everybody, 185 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: And why the EB five ye's that you cannot be 186 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: You cannot be sponsored by foreign country. You have to 187 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: have the cash yourself. That doesn't make any sense, Like 188 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: there's no there is no way to sit there and 189 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: get and get these kinds of people in if they 190 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: are being going to be okay, being in a gray 191 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: legal authority for a year or possibly his entire four 192 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: year term. 193 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: What do you like about what Trump is doing so 194 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: far on immigration policy? Ryan, Let's take his let's take 195 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: this to a happy place for him. 196 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: It is now listen, I agree o listen the mass deportations. 197 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: I like him. I hope they go out faster. I think, listen, 198 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: if Trump gets the birthright citizenship case in his favor 199 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: and he ends birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants, I don't 200 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: care if he sleeps for the next four years. I 201 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: don't care what he does. He will be one of 202 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: the greatest presidents and most consequential, not only of my lifetime, 203 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: of the last century. This is one of the worst 204 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: things that's going on in our country and hasn't for 205 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: a long time. It's amazing that he's taking this huge, huge, 206 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: huge gamble on this as part of his early earliness agenda. 207 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: That is great. But the problem with Trump with this 208 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: EB five, like with the Gazzle Ship thing, is in 209 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: his head he's always kind of making a resort. So, yeah, 210 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: you're going to make a resort in Gaza. You're going 211 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: to sit there and make American to a resort. You 212 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: just have to pay, you know, five million dollars by 213 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: the pool and get a martini serve to you. That 214 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 2: is the fundamental issue. So you can have Howard Lutnick, 215 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: who's former Caunter Fitzgerald CEO, billionaire donor brain who sees 216 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: America as a transactional proposition you have an issue. I 217 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: believe America is for people who invested in this country, 218 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: not for five million dollars, but for generations and build 219 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: this country. 220 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: And there is okay, So. 221 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: Let me ask you that we agree with a lot 222 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: of this stuff. Let me ask you this, what policies 223 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: have you heard from a Republican or Democrat that are 224 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: logical and makes sense, that would you that would make 225 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: sense to get rid of some part of our thirty 226 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: six trillion dollar debt. Because here's my concern, Ryan, I 227 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: think of everything out there right now, to the extent 228 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: that I am concerned about things for the next one 229 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: hundred years, long after everybody listening now is gone. I 230 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: think our national debt is the biggest threat that America 231 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 3: faces because the more and more it grows, the less 232 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: we can allow the country to flourish, and the more 233 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: foreign nations can have entanglements because they own a substantial 234 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: portion of our debt. 235 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: So what have you seen? I'm just curious this. 236 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: The reason I like this policy is Trump's got a 237 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: conversation going about trying to address it in a new way. 238 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: What have you heard or seen and you think, hey, 239 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: this does make sense? Because I do bet you agree. 240 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: The national debt is a huge mess. 241 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: It's a huge, huge problem and does in doge and 242 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: coins and goal visas are not going to solve the 243 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: problem of Congress not doing the work. You have to 244 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: have Medicare, Medicaid and social security reform. You have to 245 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: have reformed the Department of Defense. You have to stop 246 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: policing the world. That is first and foremost. I think 247 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: we should still be suing government of China for COVID. 248 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: I think we should absolutely lutely be suing for what 249 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: they did to our nation during COVID and the break 250 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: of the debt that we did then. And I've heard 251 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: things about minting a trillion dollar chip and sitting there 252 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: and using that to pay off the debt. I've heard 253 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: a lot of different things. But Congress has to stop 254 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: spending like drunken sailors. Nothing that Elon Musk or a 255 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: goal visa or anybody else will do as long as 256 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: Congress is there and spends us into oblivion. We have 257 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: to stop letting Congresses endlessly sit there and just spend money, money, 258 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: good money, chasing bad projects. Has to stop. 259 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: Ryan Gerdusky, everybody play anything else? We good? 260 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: All right? 261 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: No? I mean he's totally wrong on this. Congratulations on 262 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: the baby. By the way, do you have any tips 263 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: for Buck on fatherhood as Buck will soon be a 264 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: father in the next like six eight weeks. 265 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 266 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: You everything that you say, a lot of your selfish, 267 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: selfish needs all go out the window and you will 268 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: lose the whole joke. If you'll lose sleep is not 269 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: a joke. You will just go days without sleeping like 270 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: you think you will. So, but good luck. I mean 271 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: it's great, it is great, but it is there is 272 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 2: no sleep. I mean there's just no sleep. 273 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: For a lot of sunshine and rainbows. For mister Gerarduski 274 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: today on the radio. 275 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: Show, I'm in one of those sleep modes. 276 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. 277 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Go check out the It's a Numbers Game podcast on 278 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: the Clay end Buck Network and subscribe to Ryan Substack, 279 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: the National Populace newsletter. Mister Gradski, go get some sleep. 280 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. 281 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 282 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: Look, maybe the single best donation that you can make 283 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: is to save the life of an unborn child who 284 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: cannot speak up for himself for herself. 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That's pound two five zero 303 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: say baby, or go to Preborn dot com, slash buck 304 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: preborn dot com slash b u c K. 305 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: Making America great again isn't just one man It's many 306 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: The Team forty seven podcast Sunday's at noon Eastern in 307 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: the Clay and. 308 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: Buck podcast feed. 309 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 310 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: your podcasts. 311 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. 312 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and appreciate 313 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: Ryan Gardusky coming on. What I give credit to Trump 314 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: for is creating new ideas. And I had never heard 315 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: anybody talk about five million dollar golden ticket. Now what 316 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: Ryan and I started talking off about, I think is 317 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: the key here. What is the total addressable market? How 318 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: many people are able to pay that worldwide? And how 319 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: much money could that put into the United States Treasury 320 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: to help pay down our debt. That is the question 321 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: that I would love to have the answer for because 322 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: obviously the bigger that audience is, the better that product 323 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: could sell. It doesn't matter what product you sell. The 324 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: TAM the total addressable market for a product is, to 325 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: a large extent, what will allow you to build or 326 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: not build a business. For instance, we have Crockett coffee. 327 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: Seventy percent of people drink coffee. If you are a 328 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: coffee drinker, then you should, in my opinion, be consuming 329 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: our product. But there's thirty per cent of people that 330 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: hate coffee. It's going to be really hard for us 331 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: to sell to buck or don't drink it. That's a 332 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: product that's not addressable to them. So Crocketcoffee dot com, 333 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: we love you. The total addressable market for this show, 334 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: this radio show, probably seventy five percent of Americans. If 335 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: you're anything other than a far left wing crazy person, 336 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: I think you could listen to this show and say, hey, 337 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: I don't agree with everything those guys say. But seventy 338 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: five percent of the American population I think would listen 339 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: and agree with a lot of what we say. 340 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: That's a big market. 341 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: Yes, just listen to us on the radio because we're 342 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: so handsome, which you won't know if you're just listening. 343 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: So how could you say that I'm wrong? 344 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: How about that. 345 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: We're incredibly good looking For radio guys, humbly speaking, radio 346 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: guys tend to be really ugly, and so as the 347 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: radio contingent goes, we are incredibly good looking. That is, 348 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: I will be honest, compared to the average radio guy, 349 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: we are supermodels. And that's not an endorsement of us. 350 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: It's just really more of an attack on the average 351 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 3: radio guy out there. 352 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why we got to throw radio under 353 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: the bus like that. There's been some there's handsome. There's 354 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: handsome radio guys out there. There's plenty of them, there's 355 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: very few. It's TV where you tend to be good looking. 356 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: It is writing where you're really tend to be heinous, 357 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: and then there is radio, where you're a little bit 358 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: in between the two. You ever sports writers sports writers, 359 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: and I say I was impressed with the with the 360 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: sports writer brigades. I've seen at those SEC games. Those 361 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: guys they like their they like their foot long sandwiches. 362 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's the sports writing community. 363 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: If you ever walk into a press box, is the ugliest, 364 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: most decrepit collection of media anywhere on the planet. I'll 365 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: be honest with you. It makes like a CNN waiting room. 366 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 3: Seem like you're you're at Miss America. Not a good 367 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: look at collection the dudes. Speaking of sports, we got 368 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: March Madness underway. Starting on Saturday. We are officially into March. 369 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: If you want college basketball like I do, you can 370 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: go to prizepicks dot com. You can pay five dollars, 371 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: you get fifty dollars. 372 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 4: It's easy. 373 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: You can play in California, you can play in Texas, 374 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: you can play in Georgia. If you're feeling left out, 375 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: I have got a fun game for you. You don't have 376 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: to be a college basketball fan. You can be an 377 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 3: NBA fan. You can be a Major League baseball fan. 378 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 3: You can be a hockey fan. Every sport is covered. 379 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: All you have to do is pick more or less 380 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: on two or more athletes. We'll give you a pick 381 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: next week. And we have won our last two buck 382 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 3: on college basketball. That's pricepicks dot com. Go get signed 383 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: up today, code play for fifty bucks. Let's check in 384 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 3: on our friends over at CNN for a moment. 385 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: Here. 386 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings has risen to conservative commentary prominence through being 387 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: especially adept at taking on not one, not two, sometimes three, four, 388 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: I don't even know, maybe five CNN libs at once. Yes, 389 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's an excellent thing to watch. 390 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: It's like a tight rope walk. It's stepping into the 391 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: the you know, the lion's cage, as the lion tamer, 392 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: all all that good stuff. I mean, what he's doing 393 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: is really entertaining and he deserves the credit that he's 394 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: getting for always handling it well, handling it in a gentlemanly 395 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: fashioned because the Libs they fight, they fight dirty, and 396 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: they say mean nasty things and they always want to 397 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: get a a rise out of you. But he's doing 398 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: a great job. But this was an interesting exchange that 399 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: he had with a fellow that I only know his 400 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: his name is Terrey, so kind of like Pele or 401 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: Madonna or Ronaldo, like one name only, which is to. 402 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: Be really really famous, to decide you only go by 403 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: one name, I'll just point out, like it's really aggressive 404 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: move when no one has any idea who you are 405 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: to try to become a one name person. 406 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: I would agree with that, and I'd say, this gentleman 407 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: who who used to be on an MSNBC panel show 408 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: years ago that did not last I think we should 409 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: know what his last name is. 410 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 4: But that's okay. 411 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: Irrespective of that, Scott Jennings made short work of his arguments. 412 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: This is how it went. Sit back, relax, enjoy cut twelve. 413 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 5: Can it be real for a moment that DOGE is 414 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: not about cutting money right, It's not about spending. It's 415 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: about shrinking government so that it'll be too small to 416 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 5: stop Trump with whatever else is in this plan. 417 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 6: Why would the government why would the government stop Trump? 418 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 6: Is any the head of the government. You're saying the 419 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 6: government would be too small to stop Trump. If Trump's 420 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 6: the president, why would the government the bureaucracy be actively 421 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 6: trying to. 422 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: Stop him because they were constitution and creating on authoritarian dictatorship. 423 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 5: That's wild, okay. 424 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 6: And you're suggesting ership the concept that the military should 425 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 6: be an independent agency, or that the bureaucracy should resist 426 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 6: the political leadership of this government is extraordinarily dangerous. 427 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 5: That's literally not what we said. 428 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm just repeating, Thank you your. 429 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting, Clay, because mister Terrey said 430 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: something that is very much a belief of the Democrats, 431 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: but they generally don't say it out loud, which is, 432 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: we control the government even when we don't control the government. 433 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: That's the way this game is played. Trump wins, it 434 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter the government's there to stop him from running 435 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: the government. This is really a central thesis of this 436 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: moment for the Trump administration, which is that's not allowed 437 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: to be the case anymore because it's not supposed to 438 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: constitutionally be the case. 439 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 3: It was interesting when we were up for the inauguration, 440 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 3: we went out to dinner or lunch, I think it 441 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: was with one of your friends who is still working 442 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 3: inside of the federal government, and we just kind of 443 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 3: had a generalize conversation about the fact that many of 444 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: these federal employees they believe that they are going to 445 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: outlast by far any administration, and so they just have 446 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: to kind of put their head down, mucket up as 447 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: best they can for four years until somebody else they 448 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: like more comes back in. And that, really, I think 449 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: is the game plan of government employees by and large, 450 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: who were overwhelmingly indexed in DC. Did you see the 451 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: video of the woman buck who was saying when Elon 452 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: Musk asked me to write five things that I did, 453 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: I suddenly knew, and I'm paraphrasing her what it was 454 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: like to live in North Korea. And my thought is, 455 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 3: and I know many of you out there will recognize this, 456 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 3: pay attention to what MSNBC and CNN are doing. They 457 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: are covering any federal worker who loses his or her 458 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: job as if they are incredible victims. 459 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 4: I have been. 460 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: I bet a huge percentage, just to be a good test, 461 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: what percentage of our audience. Buck, do you think has 462 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: been fired from a job at some point in your 463 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 3: life whenever you got your first job starting at sixteen, 464 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: until you work, let's say you work till you're sixty five. 465 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: I would bet well over half of the average American 466 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 3: has been at a company. Certainly if you're in the 467 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: private sector where you got it's happened to me. 468 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: Are we making a distinction? 469 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Are we making a distinction between fired and downsized or 470 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: let go or fire? 471 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 4: Yes? 472 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: No, I'm saying like you are just adding him a job, 473 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: and for some reason your job doesn't exist anymore. It 474 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 3: could be that you have done something in there, like 475 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: you got to go. That's traditional firing, but also the 476 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: company downsizes. I've been fired, I've been let go. I 477 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: guess is a youphemism that could apply there? 478 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: I be. 479 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: I tend to have been in a position where I've 480 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: had to leave places under duress as the walls were 481 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: caving in and the place was on fire, and just 482 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: made it out kind of like kind of like Indiana 483 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: Jones when the boulders rolling toward him. So I've been 484 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: chased out of a couple of places, but haven't technically 485 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: been given the bike. But if I had stayed around longer, 486 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: it would I would have been toast. I've been fired 487 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: multiple times and let go. However you want to classify 488 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: it not as a result, well, once as a result 489 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: of my bad Come. 490 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: On, come on, Clay, Come on, Clay. I got fired. 491 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: I got fired from Abercrombie and Fitch. Remember when I 492 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: said I worked there when I was in When I 493 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: was in college, I was supposed to call in this 494 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 3: is the pre Internet to a large extent, every like 495 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 3: Saturday night and find out what time I was supposed 496 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 3: to show up on Sunday. I didn't have a cell 497 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: phone until two thousand whatever, two thousand and one, and 498 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: so sometimes I would call in on Sunday morning, maybe 499 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: after having had a fun night out on Saturday night, 500 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: and they would be like, yeah, you were supposed to 501 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: be here an hour ago. And the final straw was 502 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 3: I got football tickets to go watch the Redskins, and 503 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: I was like, eh, you know, this job is not 504 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: necessarily a job that I love. And so I called 505 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: in And that's the only time I think I've ever 506 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: been fired for I'm a job for like them being 507 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: angry at me. But I will tell this, so that's 508 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 3: kind of a little bit funny. I will tell you 509 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: this though, when two thousand and eleven, twenty twelve, the 510 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: reason I started out kick was because I got let 511 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: go along with everybody else that was writing at a 512 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 3: sports website, and dead Spin was right before FanHouse. Dead 513 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: Spin now doesn't exist, but I left dead Spin FanHouse. 514 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: I loved it Buck. It was a huge site. 515 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: They had probably one hundred and fifty employees, and I 516 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: went in I guess it was early in two thousand, 517 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: twenty eleven. Early in twenty eleven, I went in, turned 518 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 3: my phone off to go talk on a panel about 519 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: the future of sports media in the Tennessee Titan Stadium. 520 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: When I turned my phone back on Buck, all of 521 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 3: us have been fired, the entire company, but as they 522 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: had sold the site to somebody else, and they said, 523 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: we already have our employees. You're gonna get paid. I 524 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 3: think I got paid through like March, and that's when 525 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: I ended up starting out kick because I decided then 526 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: and there I didn't want my family's future to be 527 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: determined by some bean counter that I didn't know. 528 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: I was working my ass off. I loved it. 529 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: My point on this is it sucks, and I bet 530 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: a huge percentage of you have dealt with this at 531 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: a company where you're working your ass off, you're doing 532 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: everything you can, and then through no faults of your own, 533 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 3: the rug just gets completely pulled out from you can. 534 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: Be your feet. 535 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: You can be subject to just market conditions in our industry, 536 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: and it's painful and it feels and it is unfair, right, 537 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the we can say about We can 538 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: talk about things being unfair. It does feel, because it 539 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: is I think unfair when you lose your job and 540 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: you've done nothing wrong. But I think what you were 541 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: getting toward before is what I call the forever job mentality, 542 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: which is when you go to the federal government, you 543 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: have a forever job. And that has been that has 544 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: been rattled right now in a way that they are 545 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: absolutely not used to. 546 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: And there are people who. 547 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: Clearly think that while they work in the executive branch, 548 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: they don't work for the executive branch. How does that work? 549 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: So Congress funds positions, but the people in those positions 550 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: can't be fired. That's not a job. I mean, that's 551 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: like a tenured professorship. Like this is a third So 552 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: this is why. And there have been some people who 553 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: have been fired and courts have upheld that, I might add, 554 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of it's tough to keep up 555 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: with them. There's a lot of court battles going on 556 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: right now where people are trying to stop there's a 557 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: jurisdiction shopping going on, these universal injunctions coming down from 558 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: a random federal judge. They're doing everything they can to 559 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: slow down what Trump is doing here with the cuts. 560 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: Can I just take something here for one second, Clay 561 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, remember how I sat at the top 562 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: of the show and I was just being honest that 563 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: the Epstein thing was not going to be interesting, particularly 564 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of fanfare and there's a lot 565 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: of people talking about it. Representative Anna Polina Luna, who's 566 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: part of the Congressional task force to look into this. 567 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: This is what she just tweeted out from her account 568 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: shared from her account. I know the task force were 569 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: given or review the Epstein documents being released today and 570 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: a New York Post story just revealed the documents are 571 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: simply Epstein's phone book. This is not what we or 572 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: the American people ask for. A complete disappointment. I'm just 573 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, I sit here and I tell you guys 574 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: how it's going to be, and I'm right. 575 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 576 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you disagree with me, Clay, I just 577 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: mean in general, a lot of people. 578 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 4: Oh, this is going to be the bombshell. No, it's not. 579 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: If it was going to be the bombshell, trust me, 580 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: we would have known in advance what was going to 581 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: be in the bombshell. They're not just going to release 582 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: it to a few people who went to the White House. 583 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this isn't important to get out there 584 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: as part of the more public record. But I trust 585 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: Anna Polina Luna when she tells us this is a 586 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: nothing burgers. When I told that and people got mad 587 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: at me, why do you think it's going to be 588 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: a nothing burger? 589 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: Because I know I will say. 590 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: There's a letter that has just been written by Pam Bondi, 591 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: and she says that the New York FBI Field Office 592 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: is in possession of thousands of pages of documents related 593 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: to the investigation and indictment of Epstein. 594 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 4: I'm reading from her letter that just went alive. 595 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: Despite my repeated request, the FBI never disclosed the existence 596 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: of these files. 597 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 4: By eight am tomorrow. 598 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: She is saying, the FBI will deliver the full and 599 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: complete Epstein files to her office, records, documents, audio video recordings, 600 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: materials related to him and his clients, regardless of how 601 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: such information was obtained. There will be no withholding or 602 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: limitation to my or your access. This is a letter 603 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: directed to Cash Bettel. The Department of Justice will ensure 604 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: that this disclosure is done. So she has now charged 605 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: Cash Pateel with ensuring that the FBI New York office 606 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: turns over thousands of pages of additional documents. But so 607 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: that just happened so far. What was released today not not. 608 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: Important, yes, not news, As I said that maybe now see, 609 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: I will tell you on the other side, there might 610 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: be some interesting stuff in those FBI files in New 611 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: York is clearly the FBI did not want those to 612 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: get out. 613 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: That could be interesting. 614 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: But the stuff today is essentially already just public record 615 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: from the court transcripts and from the court documents that 616 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: has now been put out there once again. 617 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm. 618 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: Just just calling balls and strikes here. I want to 619 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this. I want we need 620 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: to know what happened here. There's so much that stinks 621 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: to high Heaven about the way that government handled the 622 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: Epstein stuff. You know, what he did, monstrous criminal evil, 623 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: all that the government let him get away with it 624 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: for a very long time, a very long time. 625 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: I still feel like he was an intelligence asset. I 626 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: feel like that's the part of this story that we're 627 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 3: not getting. None of it makes sense our intelligence asset 628 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 3: if somebody else's intelligen. Yeah, And to your point, the 629 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: story here is still what happened to all those documents 630 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: that the FBI could have gotten and then suddenly they vanished. 631 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 4: Who keeps video tapes. 632 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: In a safe which is hidden in a wall in 633 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: their home unless there's something really important on those tapes? 634 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: Hmm seems weird to me, right. Who also keeps surveillance 635 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: equipment all over their house so that they have video 636 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: of what's going on, particularly in the bedrooms of the house, 637 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: and then keeps those tapes in a locked safe that 638 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: the FBI gets. 639 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 4: And does not want. 640 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: That's very strange. 641 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: I'll give you another very strange thing. Who dies in 642 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: a supposedly very secure prison where it's supposed to be impossible. 643 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: The only person who have ever committed suicide in the 644 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: MCC Ever, and when they came to look at the 645 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: video of what exactly happened, the video wasn't recording. That's 646 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: what happened. When Epstein supposedly killed himself. Clay, one of 647 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: the guards was asleep, or maybe they were both asleep. 648 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: That guards fell asleep, and the cameras, Yes, that seems 649 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: seems suspect. They went to sleep at the exact time 650 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 3: that he killed himself, and the cameras happened to not 651 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: be working at the exact time he killed himself. I'm 652 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: just saying that would not add up. That wouldn't That 653 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't even pass plot points in a decent movie. 654 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 655 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: Yesterday heart wrenching day for Israel as the country laid 656 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: to rest the Beavis family, thousands of people lying the 657 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: streets to pay their respects as the funeral procession made 658 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: its way to a cemetery in the south of the country. 659 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: Last night, New York City, the Empire State Building was 660 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: lit up an orange to honor the family. But sadly, 661 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: also yesterday in New York City, protesters forced their way 662 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: into Barnard College and attacked an employee, sending them to 663 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: the hospital. All to stand up against Israel. Now more 664 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 3: than ever, it's important we stand with our brothers and 665 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: sisters in Israel. That's what the International Fellowship of Christians 666 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: and Jews, the IFCJ does. They support people all over 667 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: the Holy Land, and they also want you to know 668 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: anti Semitism isn't just a Jewish problem. It's a threat 669 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: to all of Western civilization. And that's why the IFCJ 670 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 3: needs you to join us in their fight. Your ongoing 671 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: monthly gift to forty five dollars provides critically needed aid 672 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: to communities in the North and South devastated by the 673 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: ongoing war in Israel, but also it provides hope during 674 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: a time of great uncertainty. Bless Israel and her people 675 00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: by visiting SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That's one word, support IFCJ 676 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 3: dot org. You can also call eight eight eight four 677 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four eight eight 678 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: if CJ. 679 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 4: Sometimes all you. 680 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: Can do is laugh, and they do a lot of 681 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 3: it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay and Buck as 682 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: they laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast 683 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 3: feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 684 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 685 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us as we are powering 686 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: through Thursday edition of the program. We mentioned earlier trust 687 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: in media had hit an all time low, but that 688 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: we are dealing with a really interesting time where people 689 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 3: that I didn't anticipate as being big Trump supporters continue 690 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: to come out and illustrate Buck that the vibe shift 691 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: is real. The latest did you see this? Floyd Mayweather 692 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: maybe the great this pound for pound boxer in modern memory, 693 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 3: that is in the twenty first century. 694 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 4: I don't think he ever lost a fight. 695 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 3: He went on Fox Business yesterday and he said, Donald 696 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: Trump's the best president we've ever had. Listen to this. 697 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 3: I will pull it up in a sec. It's on 698 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 3: the list, But Buck, while I pull that up so 699 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 3: we can play it for everybody. The actual fact that 700 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 3: we're getting so many people who may not necessarily have 701 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: been particularly political in the past is I think just 702 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 3: indicative of the overall crazy vibe shift that we have seen. 703 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 4: It's cut seventeen guys. 704 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 7: I'm happy, but we're never happy. Well we had we 705 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 7: had Trump before, we didn't appreciate him. But I think 706 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 7: Trump is a great president, one of the Actually, he's 707 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 7: the best president. In my eyes, he's the best president 708 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 7: we ever had, great business of great businessman, and that's 709 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 7: what it's about. Trump has doing an amazing job. And 710 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 7: a lot of people on America are upset. But no 711 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 7: matter who goes in the White House, we're always upset, right, 712 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 7: And I think Trump is the man for the job. 713 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 7: He's the best president in my eyes. 714 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: There you go, buck the list of people that are 715 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 3: jumping on the Trump train of a variety of backgrounds, white, Black, Asian, 716 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: Hispanic continues to grow. Sports in particular seems to be 717 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 3: represented in a high level. Be back with you tomorrow, 718 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: have great Thursdays. We'll close out the week with you tomorrow.