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Speaker 1: in today and also today we're very excited we have
Speaker 1: a great episode for you guys. Very excited to introduce
Speaker 1: the special guests on the podcast. Christie Morrel was welcome
Speaker 1: to So. Christie is a dietitian for USC. She has
Speaker 1: a private practice, and she was also gentleman our dietitian
Speaker 1: for the l A Kings when I played with the
Speaker 1: King history right there. Yeah, so we have worked together.
Speaker 1: She's amazing, exceptional her job and exceptional communicating. And also
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Christie, she has the best snacks. She
Speaker 1: always comes packing with the best. I really do. I
Speaker 1: would agree with that completely. That is a love of
Speaker 1: mine is to find really good, healthy but tasty snacks
Speaker 1: can I just say I'm a little relieved because you
Speaker 1: actually have the same name as my girlfriend from college
Speaker 1: that didn't end well. And when I saw Christie morrell
Speaker 1: is coming in, I was like, oh my god, are
Speaker 1: you serious, and last like this is gonna be awkward,
Speaker 1: but that's too bad. I really would like damn a
Speaker 1: good show. Well, Amy, now you know, book another Christie Morrell.
Speaker 1: But we appreciate you being here. I have so many
Speaker 1: questions for you personally. UM, we work together. It wasn't
Speaker 1: long enough. The King's released me. If you have any
Speaker 1: pull there, you know, UM, let to know I'm still
Speaker 1: in shape and I will come back. But I appreciate Uh.
Speaker 1: I look forward to picking your brain because you work
Speaker 1: with athletes and performers all the time. UM, have a
Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge. But the first topic we want to
Speaker 1: get to is Rick has had an issue with one
Speaker 1: of his kids, which I believe you'll be a lot
Speaker 1: of help with. So I'll say with this too, rip
Speaker 1: pay Christy. Really want to get into the topic of
Speaker 1: diet and health with you, for sure, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you just one quick question about when do
Speaker 1: at what age is appropriate four kids to get cut
Speaker 1: or make the team or when do athletics turn into
Speaker 1: like a real competition. You know, my my daughter was
Speaker 1: recently cut from She has been playing soccer club soccer
Speaker 1: for the last three years and she was on the
Speaker 1: the A team and recently they had tryouts and she
Speaker 1: got cut and moved down to the got cut to
Speaker 1: the B team, and um, you know, we were quite
Speaker 1: honestly speaking, we were all devastated. And she was devastated,
Speaker 1: not from the fact that she went from the aid
Speaker 1: of the B team, but she was just emotionally. She's ten.
Speaker 1: I think at the time she was just emotionally distraught.
Speaker 1: It was more social, I believe than it was anything about,
Speaker 1: you know, not being good at soccer or at a
Speaker 1: certain level. Um. Frankly, I think she was at the
Speaker 1: right level where she got placed. But UM, I do think,
Speaker 1: you know what, what kind of just has been driving
Speaker 1: me and my wife lately is you know, like we
Speaker 1: were you know, I'm a competitor. I played sports in college, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, and so it was just drove me nuts.
Speaker 1: The first thing I want to do was like, we're
Speaker 1: going out on the field and we're going to practice
Speaker 1: for three hours, you know. And then I was like
Speaker 1: sitting back and I'm like, that's not good. That's not
Speaker 1: the right way to do it, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's only ten, And my my thing I wanted to
Speaker 1: bring up in here was like, what is the most
Speaker 1: appropriate age to start kids where it is ultracompetitive, you know,
Speaker 1: and what's the right thing? You know. You hear stories
Speaker 1: about parents that are living vicariously through their children and
Speaker 1: dads and moms getting in fights at school or at
Speaker 1: the at the game and stuff, and so, um, that
Speaker 1: was just something I wanted to share upon with you guys.
Speaker 1: With you also, that's a great question, and I think that, Um,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of parents do that. So if
Speaker 1: you're a good parent, in my opinion, you have those conversations.
Speaker 1: Is it more important for her to get on the
Speaker 1: field and keep practicing and try again next year, or
Speaker 1: is it more important for you to see her to
Speaker 1: be able to do that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I think when when you have a huge disappointment
Speaker 1: like that, it's almost supporting her, loving her and just
Speaker 1: be like, you know, obviously, for whatever reason, it is
Speaker 1: what it is right now. You can't just stay in
Speaker 1: that lull and be sad for the rest of you know,
Speaker 1: the year, but what can you do to empower yourself
Speaker 1: to maybe you want to try again or maybe not?
Speaker 1: And that should be a conversation versus Okay, honey, what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do is on Sunday, we're gonna get out
Speaker 1: there for three hours. We're going to practice that one kick.
Speaker 1: It's like, whoa dad? Like really, So I think it's
Speaker 1: important for the kid to be competitive and to want
Speaker 1: to be competitive, not the parents. So it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get out there and we're gonna does she
Speaker 1: wanted to? I know she's disappointed, but does she feel
Speaker 1: the fire to want to get back to that a team?
Speaker 1: Like she's got to have that, not you. So and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's that's what you're doing, but I
Speaker 1: think it's important. You know, my my daughters played club
Speaker 1: soccer as well, and it's like and my wife played
Speaker 1: soccer and co and stuff, so she's she's really we're
Speaker 1: both competitive people, but it's like we want them to
Speaker 1: have that fire. It's awesome that they do and if
Speaker 1: they do, but I realize that if if we push
Speaker 1: them to do that, and it's not a good mix.
Speaker 1: So Christie, you have two kids. Correct, Yes, I have
Speaker 1: two boys, two boys twelve and Dylan will be ten
Speaker 1: in July. So you're you're rights just starting to get
Speaker 1: into thick of it um And you work with athletes,
Speaker 1: you work with USC, you work with kings, you work
Speaker 1: with top level athletes. How do you approach it from
Speaker 1: a standpoint of when is it time at like your
Speaker 1: twelve year old, is it time to now start dialing
Speaker 1: in his nutrition and trying to build him up to
Speaker 1: be an athlete? Or do you just defer to him
Speaker 1: what he wants? When is it time as a parent
Speaker 1: to start escalating the process if your kid wants to
Speaker 1: be an athlete. So this would be an awesome question
Speaker 1: for my kids because I think, because of what I
Speaker 1: do and what I know, I have been teaching them
Speaker 1: and I think, Aime, you can um comment on this,
Speaker 1: but they have always eaten really well, not to the
Speaker 1: point where they don't eat sugar. I don't allow it.
Speaker 1: So I think as parents, you should start teaching your kids,
Speaker 1: educating your kids, communicating with your kids about nutrition from
Speaker 1: as little as they can, you know, as soon as
Speaker 1: they start eating honestly, because you can't be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're just going to kind of let you do your thing,
Speaker 1: eat whatever you want, and oh, now you want to
Speaker 1: play sports, Okay, We're just gonna like undo all the
Speaker 1: things and try to have you eat healthy and take
Speaker 1: care of your body. It's like, you should be taking
Speaker 1: care of your body, whether you want to play sports
Speaker 1: or not. And then I would say for Devon certainly
Speaker 1: right now, he's at that age. Interestingly enough, we have
Speaker 1: a beach uh date coming up and he's like, Mom,
Speaker 1: I really want to be able to take off my
Speaker 1: shirt and feel good about my abs. And I'm like, okay, um,
Speaker 1: so so um. He's like, are the things that I
Speaker 1: could be doing differently? I love his communication with me
Speaker 1: because we talk about nutrition all the time in our house.
Speaker 1: He's like, what can I be doing differently? Or I
Speaker 1: could feel better about my stomach? And I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: a great question. You know. Sometimes it's genetic for kids,
Speaker 1: Like some kids have that, Like my youngest son, Dylan
Speaker 1: has a very flat stomach, and he probably and he
Speaker 1: just does like he has one of those kids that
Speaker 1: you would see and he's just always gonna have a
Speaker 1: very flat stomach. Devon just doesn't. And so I talked
Speaker 1: to him about Okay, well you could cut back here
Speaker 1: and here if you want to on some sugar that
Speaker 1: you're consuming, and we'll just kind of lay it out
Speaker 1: for him. But I don't ever press like, oh, you
Speaker 1: need to have x amount. I would never say to
Speaker 1: a kid ever to start counting calories, to start measuring
Speaker 1: their food to um, you know, way themselves, or to
Speaker 1: do anything that could jeopardize the relationship with food and
Speaker 1: their body. So if if he came to me and
Speaker 1: it's like I because he's into wrestling right now, and
Speaker 1: of course that wrestling is a sport where it's a
Speaker 1: little tricky with weight, but he's not at that level yet. Um.
Speaker 1: But in terms of getting him to be competition ready,
Speaker 1: or if if a kid asked, I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's look at your current eating like current eating habits,
Speaker 1: what could you do differently? Could you eat more protein
Speaker 1: and a little less snacky foods. Could we find replacements
Speaker 1: of things that you like that are healthier that might
Speaker 1: help you cut back on a little bit of body fat.
Speaker 1: Because it is a competitive world, but you have to
Speaker 1: be able to be It's such a delicate topic and
Speaker 1: I think parents involvement can get a little sticky. So
Speaker 1: sometimes you want to bring in a professional because then
Speaker 1: you don't have to have that conversation of then the
Speaker 1: kids starts to eat something like chicken nuggets and you're like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, I thought you said you wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, get a little bit leaner. That is, I mean,
Speaker 1: that becomes a little bit tricky because then you're now
Speaker 1: the food police and then they feel like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: watching them, and I'll tell you right now, from all
Speaker 1: the kids that I see in my private practice, that's
Speaker 1: where things start to brew. And then once they've gone
Speaker 1: down that path, it's it's a tough one to pull
Speaker 1: back on. So you do want to be careful. The
Speaker 1: opposite is bad too. You don't want to reward them
Speaker 1: with donuts exactly same thing, because then they're shooting for
Speaker 1: that and then they're eating the opposite way and you're
Speaker 1: giving that to them. Absolutely. I once said, when I
Speaker 1: was growing up playing hockey, one of the guys like
Speaker 1: in my class and on my hockey team would get
Speaker 1: a score bar every time he scored a goal. True,
Speaker 1: sorry to get a score bar from his dad every
Speaker 1: time he scored a goal. And we played this one town,
Speaker 1: we beat them, forty five nothing. We beat him forty
Speaker 1: five rip. He picked up eight goals and he got
Speaker 1: eight score bars. He has no legs, and he was
Speaker 1: a very large child like he was to this day
Speaker 1: still is a large absolutely, And I think and again
Speaker 1: I think parents, parents do that often. Oh you're you're
Speaker 1: sad from school, you had a fight with a friend.
Speaker 1: Let's go get you some ice cream, you'll feel better.
Speaker 1: It's almost like something that kids, you know, they it's
Speaker 1: a reward system, and that's how they cope with their
Speaker 1: feelings and then that last them. There can less than
Speaker 1: their whole life. That's how they reward themselves or you know, well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna say it, Like I
Speaker 1: feel like it's a fine line, Like you're saying, is
Speaker 1: is the food situation or the nutrition versus Like at
Speaker 1: what point does competitiveness take over where it's like parents
Speaker 1: are pushing their kids, you know. And I feel like
Speaker 1: this is maybe a little bit of a bigger picture,
Speaker 1: but like it is important for you know, you can
Speaker 1: use athletics to get into college now and you don't
Speaker 1: have to get in a natural way. In fact, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's easier, but it's definitely a different path, right,
Speaker 1: you know, it is a huge one. I took it myself.
Speaker 1: And but like there are people that are trying to
Speaker 1: use that private coaches, private quarterback, you know, and trying
Speaker 1: to get their kid to be that much better. And
Speaker 1: it's and I think it's it's almost like this way
Speaker 1: of you know, pushing them to a limit where they're
Speaker 1: looking for other outlets to get away from that sport.
Speaker 1: You know, most kids at certain point, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's like they're either going to food or drugs or
Speaker 1: whatever else, you know, and it's horrible. A question, A
Speaker 1: question for you. I get asked by a parent that
Speaker 1: a kid's twelve years old or thirteen years ago, what
Speaker 1: kind of protein does he need to be on? Does
Speaker 1: he need to be taking? When should they really if
Speaker 1: they want to be a competitive athlete, When can you
Speaker 1: start them on proper nutrition and really educate them on it.
Speaker 1: I think when they ask for it, When they ask
Speaker 1: for it, then they're ready to listen and do something
Speaker 1: about it, do you know what I mean? So if
Speaker 1: the parent is saying you should do this, then the
Speaker 1: kids like, I don't really want to and I really
Speaker 1: like my pizza and whatever. It doesn't matter how much
Speaker 1: you talk to them or educate them. They're ultimately going
Speaker 1: to put the food in their body when they're at
Speaker 1: that birthday party or when they're at their friend's house.
Speaker 1: So when the when the kid says to you, I
Speaker 1: really want to focus on this, I really want to
Speaker 1: gain speed, so I know that I can be better
Speaker 1: if I really dial in my nutrition or however they
Speaker 1: probably use those types of language, but and they're asking
Speaker 1: for it, that's the time they'd be like, great, you
Speaker 1: know what, Then we're gonna get a professional because mom
Speaker 1: or daddy doesn't know exactly how you should be eating.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get somebody who can talk to and really
Speaker 1: understand how do we do this and there is a
Speaker 1: correct way of doing it. And unfortunately kids are way
Speaker 1: to expose now to YouTube videos and all this other
Speaker 1: stuff and they're just going to get information online or
Speaker 1: in other places and it's not age appropriate. These kids
Speaker 1: are still growing, so they shouldn't be taking supplements. They
Speaker 1: shouldn't be taking all these protein powders. They can do
Speaker 1: it in a natural way and in a healthy way,
Speaker 1: so they don't feel like, you know, they have to
Speaker 1: be again counting everything or measuring or just becoming obsessive.
Speaker 1: And that, unfortunately, is something I'm so passionate about because
Speaker 1: I think more and more kids are almost the obsessive
Speaker 1: nous with it, getting obsession or having obsession with it
Speaker 1: versus something that's healthy. So what would be an appropriate
Speaker 1: age for somebody to start taking a supplement? That's a
Speaker 1: great question. I would say, when they're then they when
Speaker 1: they're done growing. That depends what kind of supplement you're
Speaker 1: talking about. But let's see asked the most by like
Speaker 1: hockey parents, parents back in Canada, people that know me
Speaker 1: or my dad or my mom, they ask a about
Speaker 1: protein and creatine because they might know somebody that's on
Speaker 1: And these kids are thirteen and four. So definitely absolutely
Speaker 1: not at that age. I mean, I would say, and
Speaker 1: again I'm not it depends on the person, but when
Speaker 1: they're done growing would be ideal, so or maybe kind
Speaker 1: of like senior in high school, maybe to college somewhere
Speaker 1: on there. I wouldn't. I wouldn't start them any sooner
Speaker 1: because and it's it's actually not proven. I can I
Speaker 1: can give athletes and I have many times great muscle
Speaker 1: building or ways that they can lean out without having
Speaker 1: to take any kind of artificial type of supplements. There's
Speaker 1: ways to do it. So can you give us some
Speaker 1: examples for that, for for even just for a parent,
Speaker 1: if a parents looking to lean out, or if a
Speaker 1: kid is eighteen nineteen or going to college looking to
Speaker 1: lean out and be an athlete, what would be some
Speaker 1: natural ways or foods that could help that kid. Sure.
Speaker 1: The first thing I do is have each they can
Speaker 1: do this right now if if they wanted to, but
Speaker 1: have them write down everything that they're eating for or
Speaker 1: a week and start to see little holes they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I snack on like when I'm in the car, or
Speaker 1: I wait too long to eat, and then I get
Speaker 1: home and I'm starving, so then I just eat a
Speaker 1: bunch of snack food. So first and foremost, I'd just
Speaker 1: love to see what they're currently doing. And that's just
Speaker 1: anybody can do that, any kids. Sometimes I'll I'll um,
Speaker 1: when I go into Devon's class, I taught a nutrition class.
Speaker 1: They'll ask me that, like, what's the best way to
Speaker 1: be better about my nutrition? I'm like, well, first, see
Speaker 1: what you're doing, take take notice, be mindful of your habits.
Speaker 1: Because a lot of kids are either skipping breakfast or
Speaker 1: you know, they'll eat just whatever throughout the day and
Speaker 1: then they come home at night, like you said, kind
Speaker 1: of binge or just eat whatever. So first kind of
Speaker 1: look at what they're currently doing, and then I can
Speaker 1: easily go through and be like, Okay, well instead of
Speaker 1: just eating a bunch of goldfish for a snack, you
Speaker 1: can have yogurt and some foods. So yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think it's more. I know we're focusing on you know,
Speaker 1: athletes and stuff like that, but I think children in general.
Speaker 1: I think the nutrition, Like I was this rewarding with donuts,
Speaker 1: and then there's there's you know, eating completely healthy here
Speaker 1: and there, and you're getting to the supplement's point. But
Speaker 1: it's like when I took my daughter to school when
Speaker 1: she was in kindergarten. I was just we're sitting there,
Speaker 1: she was coloring, and a friend of hers came up
Speaker 1: to the table and I was like, oh, that's a
Speaker 1: good morning, I said, you know, somehow the topic got
Speaker 1: to us and how's your morning. You know, She's like, good,
Speaker 1: I had three doughnuts. That's like kindergartener had three doughnuts
Speaker 1: before she went to school. My kids will come home
Speaker 1: and they can't wait to tell me what their friends
Speaker 1: lunches look like. They are like crazy, I have a
Speaker 1: question for you. So, my my son plays travel baseball.
Speaker 1: So every other weekend, we're in a different city or
Speaker 1: a different place, and there's anywhere between four to twelve
Speaker 1: fields around this whole entire complex and and we're there
Speaker 1: from eight am to three pm or all day long basically,
Speaker 1: and there's one stand of snacks and foods in the
Speaker 1: whole entire thing. And it's cheeseburgers, onion rings, French fries, burritos, dogs, nachos,
Speaker 1: hot dogs, and it's you cannot get sell. And and
Speaker 1: I almost feel like if you're kind of not an outcast,
Speaker 1: but like if I brought my own cooler with like no,
Speaker 1: come over here, and we're gonna sit over here, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna have these these you know, nuts to snack
Speaker 1: on to get you more protein while you know, in
Speaker 1: between games, Like that's odd and unfortunately that's I would like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I would have no shame in that.
Speaker 1: I'd be like no, but I but I feel like
Speaker 1: it's like, how do we as a whole get those
Speaker 1: places to change? Or you know, because that's a question.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fundamentals there are are everything's market driven.
Speaker 1: Everything comes down to economics. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if there's not enough choice because the market created not
Speaker 1: enough cheap because the fact of the matter is all
Speaker 1: the choices actually exist, the economy determines what choices you
Speaker 1: end up with ultimately at that one place. So fundamentally speaking,
Speaker 1: the general public wants to have a hot dog. That's
Speaker 1: all there is to it. So you know, that's what
Speaker 1: you're dealing with. If you want to go against that tide,
Speaker 1: you have to sort of you need to bring your
Speaker 1: own food. So is that something to change the culture? Essentially?
Speaker 1: If that's if the culture wants a hot dog, that's
Speaker 1: going to be the culture. But but if you were,
Speaker 1: if you I don't know if we can view our
Speaker 1: whole foods or Thrive Markets. Let's use Thrive markets because
Speaker 1: we love Thrive Markets. Why doesn't Thrive Markets sponsor a
Speaker 1: huge sports baseball indoor thing and and have that be
Speaker 1: their entire right, you know, instead of it's you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta del taco, you got a burger, You've got
Speaker 1: all these other places down the street, or just the
Speaker 1: regular person making the cheeseburgers, But like, why wouldn't one
Speaker 1: of those places be like, hey, you know what we're
Speaker 1: We're going to have a healthy place where all these
Speaker 1: kids are gonna play. I think it should be on
Speaker 1: the advisory board to thrive. Remember I got my toilet
Speaker 1: papers there. But there's a great irony there. I gotta
Speaker 1: say with the to me, the obvious irony is this
Speaker 1: the sports fan in the live sports fan visit going
Speaker 1: to a sports event is going there to have a
Speaker 1: beer and a hot dog. So you know, you're coming
Speaker 1: in with with parental's parental advisory version of what you
Speaker 1: want your kids to have and what options do you
Speaker 1: want to have at the game. But it's changing. You're
Speaker 1: starting to see some healthier stuff show up in But
Speaker 1: I'll say that you're going you don't have to. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying now is you don't. You can if you want,
Speaker 1: but there is an option if you don't want to.
Speaker 1: That's starting to come in. But let's say there isn't
Speaker 1: an option. Christie, as a parent, what would you do?
Speaker 1: Would you meal prep and bring something like for parents
Speaker 1: that want to do that that have kids but want
Speaker 1: to eat healthy, Like, what would you do and also,
Speaker 1: can you also maybe give us some examples of things,
Speaker 1: specific things or companies that you would bring with you
Speaker 1: where they can get these products from. Sure. So I mean,
Speaker 1: first and foremost, I love the absolutely. I have like
Speaker 1: two or three of these, you know, little coolers, and
Speaker 1: I would pack sandwiches and yogurt and vegetables and fruit,
Speaker 1: and look if they want to over the concession stands
Speaker 1: and get a bag of chips, because that's what they
Speaker 1: really wanted. I The other thing, too, is there's a
Speaker 1: flip side of being overly. You know, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you can't have a gramma sugar, you can't have any
Speaker 1: processed foods. And I see a lot of kids like
Speaker 1: that too, who's parents have just put like they can't
Speaker 1: have anything like that, and then they become very obsessive.
Speaker 1: So I think there's room to have both. I think
Speaker 1: if you can pack some stuff and then be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, honey, if you want to go, you know,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be dinner. But if you wanted to
Speaker 1: have the hot dog for lunch, if that's what you
Speaker 1: really wanted, you have to be able to communicate, but like, look,
Speaker 1: we're going here, We're gonna be there all day long.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to just live on concession stand foods.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can pack something together, like can we get
Speaker 1: this and that, and let's empower them to be able
Speaker 1: to make some choices versus well, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: pack everything that I think you should have and then
Speaker 1: the kids like, I don't even like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm always encouraging parents to be
Speaker 1: so involved, even packing lunches for for school. The kids
Speaker 1: should be involved in that. And it's so interesting because
Speaker 1: not to get totally off topic, but um, one of
Speaker 1: the things that I would say is, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: tell the kids during lunch is when you're when you
Speaker 1: don't eat your entire lunch and you throw out part
Speaker 1: of the sandwich or all this stuff, and your parents
Speaker 1: open it up, they think you ate everything, right, They
Speaker 1: think that you liked what they packed, so they're gonna
Speaker 1: pack it again. And that was such a lightbulb moment.
Speaker 1: Parents are like, oh my gosh, Christie, how do I
Speaker 1: ever thank you? Because my kid came home and said
Speaker 1: they never even ate that sandwich. I never liked it.
Speaker 1: They were throwing it away all the time, and they
Speaker 1: were like, lunch it all. It's just the communication. There's
Speaker 1: such a lack of that with kids, and I can't
Speaker 1: tell you enough that is such the beginning point of
Speaker 1: all of this when it comes to nutrition and their
Speaker 1: health and well being. It's sitting down and having a
Speaker 1: conversation of like, hey, honey, let's make lunch together for
Speaker 1: tomorrow versus I'm gonna pack something that you're gonna throw
Speaker 1: throw out our trade with your friends, like what are
Speaker 1: we doing here? So it comes to that. But there
Speaker 1: are great companies. Trifecta is a really great company that's
Speaker 1: designed for athletes, and they have four or five different
Speaker 1: meal plans. So if you're like, gosh, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: going on the road a lot and I just need quick,
Speaker 1: healthy meals that I can pack. They have a great
Speaker 1: website and they have different options and you can do
Speaker 1: it that way where they're just nice and package and
Speaker 1: you just you know, can take them with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ask you a question healthy adolescents them early adolescents into
Speaker 1: like your late teens. How much of your muscular development
Speaker 1: has to do with your nutrition? I would first say
Speaker 1: that everything is about genetics first and foremost. Having good
Speaker 1: genetics is a is a plus that's number one. So
Speaker 1: bulky musculars could be sixteen years old like naturally novel
Speaker 1: sort of Sorry, keep going, keep going, that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Keep going, because he was so he seemed naturally very muscular,
Speaker 1: like he looked like a rod Dan you know. I
Speaker 1: mean he has a large, large muscular development at a
Speaker 1: very early age, you know what I mean, which is
Speaker 1: really unusual. And I was wondering, how do you put
Speaker 1: on that kind of muscle tissue? Was that almost strictly genetic,
Speaker 1: regardless if he would have been training or not, just
Speaker 1: that was his natural physique? Or do you think I
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with diet? I definitely think
Speaker 1: diet and the way he lifted and trained, for sure,
Speaker 1: was a big part of that. Genetics is a big
Speaker 1: part of it, but nutrition has a huge role in that.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you how I know that for certain.
Speaker 1: Is that you put an athlete on a dexa. You
Speaker 1: know the right, So a dexa. Yes, it's a body composition.
Speaker 1: You basically lay down and it tells you how much
Speaker 1: fat to muscle you have on your body. Ok. So
Speaker 1: this is like a mobile van and they scan your
Speaker 1: body exactly. Yes, that's exactly right. So after you get scanned,
Speaker 1: you get this print out and tells you how much
Speaker 1: fat to muscle you have on every part of your body,
Speaker 1: your legs, your arms, everywhere. Right, then you design a
Speaker 1: meal plan. I did that and the doctor pulled out
Speaker 1: the plug and blew on it plug because he thought
Speaker 1: it was broken because there was no muscle here. So basically,
Speaker 1: then you can give an athlete a specific meal plan
Speaker 1: and they go back on the deck set and you
Speaker 1: can show them, look, you gain five pounds of muscle
Speaker 1: and decrease two body fat just by following this meal plan.
Speaker 1: Now the buying is there right now they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: this this girl might know something. That's a big component
Speaker 1: because for athletes, I mean, they can see their body,
Speaker 1: their physique in the mirror. But when they know that
Speaker 1: something is really working, when they can see like, wow,
Speaker 1: I've increased five pounds of muscle. Because when you get
Speaker 1: on a scale, you don't know if you're gaining fat
Speaker 1: or muscle. Right, so ADEXA muscle your muscle, So that
Speaker 1: I would say, so Hunter, there's no there's no doubt
Speaker 1: in my mind. Nutrition is a huge component to leaning
Speaker 1: out and having a good muscular physique for sure. We
Speaker 1: gotta take a break. We'll get back to Christie. We
Speaker 1: got a thousand more questions. We can take a break first.
Speaker 1: This is how men think. My name is Brooks like
Speaker 1: and I got Gavin, we got Rick, and we got
Speaker 1: a Petree with us, and we're very blessed to have
Speaker 1: Christie Morale with us as well. We're talking diets, we're
Speaker 1: talking nutrition, we're talking performance. And for people that don't
Speaker 1: know Christie, what would be the number one reason that
Speaker 1: a parent would come to you for their kids? What
Speaker 1: is their kid maybe dealing with? What are they going through?
Speaker 1: Why would why do you get contacted the most from
Speaker 1: a parent? So I specialize in eating disorders and disordered
Speaker 1: eating um for kids in particular, and I'm fortunately think
Speaker 1: it's on the rise because of social media and pressure
Speaker 1: and school and there's a lot of competitiveness with within
Speaker 1: sports too, so people think, oh, I need to look
Speaker 1: a certain way or be a certain way, and so
Speaker 1: there's more and more pressure on kids. And so I
Speaker 1: think the parents find me through their therapist or pediatrician
Speaker 1: or however, and they'll call me up and they'll tell
Speaker 1: me about their daughter or their son, and I see
Speaker 1: a lot of boys in my practice too, UM, which
Speaker 1: is so sad to see these young kids really struggling
Speaker 1: with their weight or they're not eating um because of
Speaker 1: stress or anxiety, and their parents just don't know what
Speaker 1: to do or how to help them. What about for
Speaker 1: an adult, what are Because I have a thousand questions
Speaker 1: for you, I feel like I'm just hogging her from
Speaker 1: you guys representing all of us, and the spot on
Speaker 1: over like three page. I am. I love writing notes,
Speaker 1: especially on diet nutrition doodling. My question for you is,
Speaker 1: for let's say, men, um, what are some of the
Speaker 1: very basic mistakes that we're making that we can make
Speaker 1: a change on that make a big impact right away.
Speaker 1: I see older people, um that have just careers jobs
Speaker 1: that they want to either lean out or they've been
Speaker 1: trying to follow certain diets. I mean, this is the
Speaker 1: problem is that there's more misinformation on nutrition than there
Speaker 1: is credible science based nutrition issue information out there. So
Speaker 1: some people will try to go Google or find you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's in a minute fasting or keto. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a million different diets out there, and people get
Speaker 1: confused what is the best way that they should be eating?
Speaker 1: So people come to me and ask, you know, what
Speaker 1: is the best way that I can take care of myself.
Speaker 1: I've noticed that I've put on some weight or um,
Speaker 1: you know, my doctor said I have high cluster, all
Speaker 1: these kinds of things. The biggest mistake I think that
Speaker 1: people make is they try to go find a diet
Speaker 1: on their own. They go research something, and then they
Speaker 1: try to you know, put something together just themselves, and
Speaker 1: they fail pretty miserably. And I'll tell you why, because
Speaker 1: they think the idea is to restrict or starve themselves.
Speaker 1: So they'll start with a celery juice in the morning,
Speaker 1: and then they won't eat until let's say they have
Speaker 1: meetings after meeting and now they don't eat until three
Speaker 1: and somebody brought in bagels and they're, you know, shoving
Speaker 1: four bagels in their mouth because they're starving. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be super healthy. I'm gonna start with the celery
Speaker 1: juice that everybody talks about, and then I'm not going
Speaker 1: to plan my day. So it's things like that I
Speaker 1: think that really get people all messed up. So are
Speaker 1: you noticing any differences in the way that males, uh
Speaker 1: young males are are having uh body image issues versus say,
Speaker 1: years ago, are you noticing an upswing in that trends?
Speaker 1: What do you think that's do do you think it's
Speaker 1: due to lifestyle? You think of social media one million?
Speaker 1: Absolutely you think it has all right, So when you
Speaker 1: say social media, you think that's a cultural element, meaning
Speaker 1: do you think that's because of what they're seeing in
Speaker 1: social media and other people looking ripped, looking fit, looking handsome,
Speaker 1: or do you think it has anything to do with
Speaker 1: sort of like the political the way things have shifted politically,
Speaker 1: and boys feel almost guilty being boys anymore, the way
Speaker 1: that people talk about boys. That's interesting because boys are
Speaker 1: sort of emasculated growing up now they're told don't be
Speaker 1: so aggressive, don't wrestle be you know, go over there
Speaker 1: like Jane, that type of thing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: versus being able to get out their physical uh, your
Speaker 1: nature being a male. I was a very physical male,
Speaker 1: so you know not but as a child, I was
Speaker 1: what you would call very unusually physical, right, So everything
Speaker 1: was based around physical activity. It was my entire youth,
Speaker 1: right So, and that being sort of beaten out of
Speaker 1: you as a young man is very peculiar to me, truly.
Speaker 1: Do you think that has to do with it. I've
Speaker 1: never really thought about that, to be honest, until just
Speaker 1: now that you just brought that up. Um, it may
Speaker 1: absolutely have something to do with it. I would think
Speaker 1: some of the young boys that I see in my practice, Um,
Speaker 1: it's at least from what I'm seeing, it comes from
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, whether it's at school being made
Speaker 1: fun of or other kids. You know, again, if they're
Speaker 1: they're more athletic than I am, and so I feel
Speaker 1: like I don't get asked to do things because I
Speaker 1: don't have this athletic you know, build, or I don't
Speaker 1: look a certain way, um, or they're just really obsessive
Speaker 1: on the other side of you know, wanting everything to
Speaker 1: be perfect. You know, I've had a young boy who
Speaker 1: was like everything has to be perfect that I eat,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, where's this perfection coming from? Why does everything?
Speaker 1: I mean, he was reading at such a young age.
Speaker 1: He's reading all the you know, the nutrition facts and
Speaker 1: the like. Where did you get this from? It's a
Speaker 1: learned behavior, unfortunately. That's why I think it's so important
Speaker 1: for parents to be educated. They think that they're trying
Speaker 1: to teach their child right by Hey, honey, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's let's see how many backgrounds that has. Oh, that's fine,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have to. And I see that so often,
Speaker 1: and parents, really, when I press it on them, they
Speaker 1: really believe that they're doing their childish service because they
Speaker 1: were maybe once overweight, so they really want to protect
Speaker 1: their child. So they're doing it in a way where like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I was an overweight kid and it
Speaker 1: was so horrible and I just want him to know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, I get that. But now
Speaker 1: he's obsessive with reading everything. And once you learn a
Speaker 1: behavior like that, to undo that is very difficult. So
Speaker 1: I see more of that. But I understand what you're saying,
Speaker 1: And that's an interesting um idea of that could be
Speaker 1: you know out there for sure? What is I agree
Speaker 1: with what you just said. I learned. I learned so
Speaker 1: much more from my parents by watching what they do
Speaker 1: than by what they said, of course to me. So
Speaker 1: if I watched my parents doing like not eating anything,
Speaker 1: it's up or I'm probably not going to do it
Speaker 1: as well. Like I just I learned absorb so much
Speaker 1: information visually. What are some of the big you said
Speaker 1: that one? What are some of the biggest mistakes that
Speaker 1: parents make that affects their kids. Oh my gosh, there's
Speaker 1: so many. One. I would say, just their own language
Speaker 1: around their own bodies, their language about them there themselves
Speaker 1: that the kid picks up on really easily. Um Or
Speaker 1: having a scale very plain as day in the bathroom
Speaker 1: where they see their parents getting on and off. And
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of kids start weighing themselves and
Speaker 1: you know, mimicking that behavior. Um So, I would say
Speaker 1: the parents one of the biggest things. What is their
Speaker 1: relationship like with food and how do they talk about themselves?
Speaker 1: Um Or if the if the parents says, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I can't eat any carbs. Carbs just make me fat,
Speaker 1: and then you're there their daughter or the son is
Speaker 1: supposed to just eat pasta, Like how doesn't that? So?
Speaker 1: What is what is worse? Health obsession or health abandonment?
Speaker 1: You mean letting the child eat whatever or allowing them
Speaker 1: to have a psychosis of being so so consumed with
Speaker 1: their image their health they're being versus paying no mind
Speaker 1: whatsoever to what they're eating if they're laying around the house,
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying, So, which is worth either?
Speaker 1: I mean the neither one is a winning situation. So
Speaker 1: it's like, I think, I think that middle ground is
Speaker 1: the only correct answer. I would agree with that there
Speaker 1: has to be a middle ground to that. You have
Speaker 1: four kids to meet, you like, how do you handle
Speaker 1: how do you handle it with you have three daughters?
Speaker 1: How do you handle nutrition and diet in your house? Um,
Speaker 1: we're by no means are with the family that's like
Speaker 1: no sugar in that's I mean, I think to step
Speaker 1: away from the from one. Look, if you look in Europe,
Speaker 1: there's no drinking age, right, you don't see kids going
Speaker 1: crazy here. When kids get to a drinking age or
Speaker 1: they get to alcohol, they go crazy with it. I
Speaker 1: think it's the same thing with sugar. I think if
Speaker 1: you grow up and you're like your parents are like
Speaker 1: no sugar, no this, no this, at some point you're
Speaker 1: it is what you said earlier, Christie about you don't
Speaker 1: eat all day and then you eat four bagels. It's like,
Speaker 1: there's so what we do is we you know, we
Speaker 1: give them sugar and we and we let them have
Speaker 1: treats and stuff like that. But we also talked to
Speaker 1: them about about eating healthy, not overdoing stuff. And something
Speaker 1: that stuck with me was one time, I think it
Speaker 1: was my son was in pre school and we went
Speaker 1: in for like a little um you know, you know,
Speaker 1: talk to the teachers, see how everything is going. It's up,
Speaker 1: and they said one of the things he mentioned was
Speaker 1: that he mentioned, uh, you know, important things. Is that
Speaker 1: this is not something I ever told him, but this
Speaker 1: is something that he had seen. They're like, oh that
Speaker 1: um he said that, you know, daddy likes to work
Speaker 1: out and Daddy likes to eat you know, healthy inness.
Speaker 1: So it was nothing I ever told him, but it's
Speaker 1: close to what you were saying the scale about this
Speaker 1: thing they see when you do so. So if I
Speaker 1: was home eating potato chips all the time and just like,
Speaker 1: don't you know, eat healthy, then he'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: and it's what you said, Brookes. They learned from seeing you.
Speaker 1: It's that old commercial. Do you remember when when rick
Speaker 1: I were young, there was a commercial that was like
Speaker 1: the kid with pot and he's like, he's like, where
Speaker 1: did you learn this? He goes, I learned it from
Speaker 1: you Dad. It's like that was not commercial and it's
Speaker 1: like that was that was about marijuana stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But that's the same thing with food. I have a question, Christie,
Speaker 1: how much of a role does does portion control play
Speaker 1: into all of this? So, like I love pizza, cheese,
Speaker 1: I mean I pretty much eat it all. I mean
Speaker 1: we do try to eat healthy at home, but you
Speaker 1: know how much of that plays a role into all
Speaker 1: of that is such trying to maintain a steady diet,
Speaker 1: you know, not a steady diet, but like if you
Speaker 1: as long as you're eating the right amount of it
Speaker 1: and not overloading on at all. Absolutely so when I
Speaker 1: go into family's home, So sometimes a family will hire
Speaker 1: me to come in, and this is the best approach
Speaker 1: because let's say you have one son who is an
Speaker 1: athlete and can kind of get away quote unquote with
Speaker 1: anything right. They can eat an entire pizza and not
Speaker 1: even gain announce. And then you have a daughter who, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, is a little bit maybe on the
Speaker 1: chubbier side, and you can't get away with as much
Speaker 1: as the brother eats. This is a huge issue I
Speaker 1: find in families of like, you can have this, but
Speaker 1: you can't have this, and you can never ever ever
Speaker 1: do that, So it's better to come in. So they'll
Speaker 1: have me come in and just explain nutrition as a whole,
Speaker 1: And that's my favorite way of doing it versus just
Speaker 1: singling it out on one kid, like, oh no, she's
Speaker 1: gotta only eat like this much, but honey, you can
Speaker 1: eat whatever you want. So I come in and talk
Speaker 1: about nutrition as a whole with the both parents of
Speaker 1: like they're eating habits. What do you have in the house, Um,
Speaker 1: let's go through your pantry. What are some you know,
Speaker 1: better choices that you guys can have in the house
Speaker 1: for snacks, And then we'll talk about the difference, because
Speaker 1: it's a real thing. I mean, you do have let's say,
Speaker 1: a growing kid who's a fourteen year old boy who's
Speaker 1: super superactive and like four different sports, and the girls
Speaker 1: just in dance and she doesn't maybe as not as active,
Speaker 1: and she is having a little bit of problems with
Speaker 1: her weight. So I'll address that, but it's coming from
Speaker 1: me versus the mom sitting there and saying something like that.
Speaker 1: So it's better in that type of setting. And then
Speaker 1: I talk about not to eat until they're fool. Do
Speaker 1: you remember as a kid, I mean, I grew up
Speaker 1: in the Midwest and North Dakota, and this is like
Speaker 1: I thought it was until you're hungry, But Basically, what
Speaker 1: that means is how many times have you told your
Speaker 1: kid you're not getting off, you know, you're not getting
Speaker 1: up from this table. And I've I've never done that.
Speaker 1: I've always said eat until you know when you're satisfied,
Speaker 1: don't you know. But then the problem was one of
Speaker 1: my kids came home from school one time and they
Speaker 1: were like, the teacher keeps saying clean container arranger, which
Speaker 1: means if they didn't finish what was in their thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, no, no, no, you eat when when
Speaker 1: you don't want, when you're done and you feel like
Speaker 1: you've had enough, I don't care if you come home
Speaker 1: with a dirty container. I don't care. I'll talk to
Speaker 1: the teacher. That is such, I mean applied to you.
Speaker 1: That is the year. Seriously, that's the best thing I've heard.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. But going back to what you had said
Speaker 1: about portion control, because I think this is a really
Speaker 1: hot topic for a lot of parents. Um I have
Speaker 1: made I've made these rules called Christie's Rules, and every everybody,
Speaker 1: the mom and the dad. I'll even tell the kids, like,
Speaker 1: you know what, if you see dad going in the
Speaker 1: kitchen and standing up and eating in the kitchen, you
Speaker 1: tell them, like, hey, dad, you're breaking rule number three
Speaker 1: that everybody feels like they're involved in it, Like it's
Speaker 1: a wellness for the family, not for just a particular kid,
Speaker 1: which is like no standing and eating, no eating out
Speaker 1: of boxes, bags, containers, are joy and eating what's going
Speaker 1: on around here? So you want to teach kids just
Speaker 1: like not finishing their plate, listening to their body, and
Speaker 1: start to be mindful. Kids are so into their phones
Speaker 1: and laptops and iPads that they're so disconnected all the time.
Speaker 1: So the most important thing is to first establish where
Speaker 1: do you eat food in your house? Like most kids
Speaker 1: will eat their dinner on the couch, So you want
Speaker 1: to establish eating dinner at the table. So when they
Speaker 1: get home from school, three o'clock whatever, they're starving, they
Speaker 1: go into the kitchen and they just start opening up
Speaker 1: the refrigerator and they start eating like leftover turkey. Let's
Speaker 1: say it's completely mindless, right, they have no idea how
Speaker 1: much they're eating when to stop ter No, But again
Speaker 1: it's that it's the behavior. It's totally the behavior. So
Speaker 1: when they're physically hungry, I'm like, great, put together a snack,
Speaker 1: go sit down at the table. Eat your snack, not
Speaker 1: while you're playing iPad and phone and everything else. Try
Speaker 1: to eat your snack and then go do something else.
Speaker 1: And so these rules are designed to bring mindfulness into play. So,
Speaker 1: just like you were saying portion sizes, it's listening to
Speaker 1: their body. If they're just scarfing down their food while
Speaker 1: they're working on a report for school, they have no
Speaker 1: idea when to stop. They're gonna stop when the food
Speaker 1: is gone. Then like a half hour later, they're like,
Speaker 1: why am I so tired? Why is my tummy hurt?
Speaker 1: What's going on? It's because you're not connected. So if
Speaker 1: you're to eat slowly, your body naturally will tell you
Speaker 1: when you've had enough food. So you can eat things
Speaker 1: like pizza or things that are highing calories, but your
Speaker 1: body will tell you when to stop. It doesn't always
Speaker 1: have to be salmon and broccoli and brown rice, right,
Speaker 1: because that's no kids going to live on that forever.
Speaker 1: But teach them how much to have so that when
Speaker 1: they're done eating, they feel good and energized, not that
Speaker 1: they feel way down and tired. My sister, I faced
Speaker 1: you guys, we talked about this. I love FaceTime, right,
Speaker 1: we talked about this I FaceTime my sister one time.
Speaker 1: I was like, Joe, do you look amazing? Like you
Speaker 1: look exceptional? What have you been doing? She goes, I've
Speaker 1: just been living the way I normally live active, the
Speaker 1: same way. I just changed my portion control. And she
Speaker 1: lost twenty two pounds on portion control. So she didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't. It's not like she cut out carbs or
Speaker 1: potatoes or like what anything. She just reined in consistently
Speaker 1: her portion control and lost twenty two pounds and looked amazing.
Speaker 1: Portion controls. That's that's my favorite. If there was a
Speaker 1: diet out there, because I don't really believe in diets
Speaker 1: at all, there was one. It's all about portion control.
Speaker 1: It's listening to your body, having a plan. You don't
Speaker 1: leave the house, you know, just like you would as
Speaker 1: a as a parent, you would never go to the
Speaker 1: park and not bring snacks or water for them ever,
Speaker 1: But for yourself, you go out for the entire day
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm just gonna like wing it.
Speaker 1: I'll just whatever pick up something. Well, guess what's convenient
Speaker 1: fast food? Right? So when you eat, let's say if
Speaker 1: I made a big platter of delicious chocolate brownies. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I brought them in here and they were warm
Speaker 1: from the ovens, the best brownies you've ever had. Okay,
Speaker 1: and you took one, which should really be enough. Let's
Speaker 1: say they are pretty decent sized brownies. Okay, one should
Speaker 1: be good, but the remnants of brownie is still in
Speaker 1: your mouth. So all that tells your mouth to do
Speaker 1: is continue to have that incredible experience and taste. But
Speaker 1: if you had one brownie and I gave you two
Speaker 1: cinnamon eltoids after or a listening. I have some clients
Speaker 1: who use listerine strips. Is the Listerine cool mint spray.
Speaker 1: I carry this everywhere. Okay, that's amazing if they want
Speaker 1: a sponsor. But that's a great thing to carry around
Speaker 1: because nothing will taste very good after that, would you agree? Nothing.
Speaker 1: I brush my teeth every time after I eat immediately
Speaker 1: because it stops me from eating again. Yeah, exactly. If
Speaker 1: you're at home, yes, something that interrupts that taste, then
Speaker 1: you can do it. So it's such a good trick.
Speaker 1: Like if you're going to a restaurant where they just
Speaker 1: have big portions. I mean, first I always tell people
Speaker 1: never go to ever out to eat hungry. Right, most
Speaker 1: people save their appetite. That's such a that's such a
Speaker 1: I don't know a thing that people do too. They
Speaker 1: won't eat hardly all day because they're going to go
Speaker 1: out for the steak dinner. Like, that's the worst idea
Speaker 1: ever that, Right, the bread basket comes and you devour
Speaker 1: the entire bread basket and it's a disaster. So that's
Speaker 1: the whole plan, is to eat slowly when you're not starving,
Speaker 1: and then when you know you've had enough and you
Speaker 1: feel good, but you still want to eat more because
Speaker 1: it tastes good. Then there's that choice they have to make.
Speaker 1: And that's where the listerine, whether it's spray or strip
Speaker 1: or a couple of altoids or a piece of gum
Speaker 1: or something will help. I see, I disagree with this. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me tell you why you go out to dinner. Right,
Speaker 1: Do you have a nice steak and you eat all
Speaker 1: kinds of things that you should not have if you
Speaker 1: want to go to the beach with your shirt off,
Speaker 1: and you try to do this as often as you
Speaker 1: can because it's delicious. Um, I feel like when you
Speaker 1: have a great meal and it tastes so good, Let's
Speaker 1: say you go out to a great place. You spend
Speaker 1: a hundred bucks on your on your meal or a
Speaker 1: hundred fifty bucks two of your bugs, the nice drinks,
Speaker 1: some delicious dessert, eat all the animals, and then you
Speaker 1: know when you're done, after you spend all that dough
Speaker 1: on yourself, you know, because you deserve it or you don't,
Speaker 1: but you had the night off. Last thing I want
Speaker 1: to do is put a five cents a gum in
Speaker 1: my mouth and forget about the experience. I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to savor that a restaurant. You're not probably ordering
Speaker 1: another steak like your steak has done you right? And
Speaker 1: you know, but don't you get what people go on
Speaker 1: that note? I know we have to take a break,
Speaker 1: but can I just point out has anybody noticed whenever
Speaker 1: Gavin talks about steak, he gets really like romantic. He goes,
Speaker 1: you know, you have a nice steak. The best part
Speaker 1: is the best part is he spent a hundred hundred
Speaker 1: fifty bucks on yourself. Right, But there's no there's no date,
Speaker 1: the most himself with the steak. Take a table for one, dude,
Speaker 1: here's the spot you got that's right, that's right, you
Speaker 1: have really earned it, beautiful, you practice self right in
Speaker 1: front of the mirror at the bar of the restaurant.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding so, but like last night, I went to
Speaker 1: like one of my favorite places. I'm sitting at the bar.
Speaker 1: I see the guys who worked there, a people who
Speaker 1: always eat there. It's always the same scene. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like a real cascid characters to this place. You know,
Speaker 1: every time I come to down in the same place, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I want to sit down there on a great meal.
Speaker 1: I want to hysterical conversations with these people because they're
Speaker 1: all funny and we're all just kind of doing the
Speaker 1: every doing the same thing, which is everything you know,
Speaker 1: and that's uh, that's how we do it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I do understand we're talking about nutrition.
Speaker 1: A second, I want to say I've been in there
Speaker 1: for a little while. I do apologize, but it's totally normal.
Speaker 1: I would never say that every single time you have
Speaker 1: to eat exactly until you're satisfied. There are times where
Speaker 1: you're like, look, this is a delicious meal. We're traveling
Speaker 1: or we're going to this restaurant, and this is the
Speaker 1: time where I'm just gonna be you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: eat a little bit more. It's gonna be fine. Whatever,
Speaker 1: it's okay, because otherwise you're teaching them that it's never
Speaker 1: okay to overeat and Thanksgiving you should be able to
Speaker 1: stop exactly where you should and feel satisfied all the time.
Speaker 1: Like I'm always like, you know what, it is delicious,
Speaker 1: have another piece, but you're just not gonna have four
Speaker 1: or five or six other pieces and then feel really
Speaker 1: miserable and set. You get a little bit of room
Speaker 1: left in your sophagus, You're like, I think I might
Speaker 1: be a little yeah, I mean that experience you just
Speaker 1: share it sounds like it's a lovely evening. I don't
Speaker 1: want to destroy it by putting, you know, an eltoid
Speaker 1: in your mouth. At the end, you might want to
Speaker 1: just finish it off. You will be healthier, your mind
Speaker 1: will be healthier if you can't live a little enjoy that,
Speaker 1: enjoy that Martinier whatever that is, and then the next
Speaker 1: day you're going to get back on whatever schedule, feel
Speaker 1: good about yourself. Well agreed, agreed, balance, well said, balance,
Speaker 1: that's the main that's the main case. I'm going to
Speaker 1: pick your brain after this break, because I got a
Speaker 1: thousand more questions. So we asked you about what most
Speaker 1: men come for to you four. But now for our
Speaker 1: women listening, what's the number one issue that women come
Speaker 1: to or approach you about her seek your consultation for.
Speaker 1: So most women definitely are wrapped up in their body
Speaker 1: for sure, with body image, feeling like they need to
Speaker 1: look more tone They their stomach needs to be, you know, flatter,
Speaker 1: they need to have more toned arms. I think women, again,
Speaker 1: whether it's because of social media or just um their
Speaker 1: own insecurities as you get older, I think they are
Speaker 1: sort of chasing that younger body and wanting to know
Speaker 1: what can I do? How can I eat? How can
Speaker 1: I exercise in a way that keeps myself still looking
Speaker 1: young and desirable. So I would say I would see
Speaker 1: most women for that for sure. Yeah, I would say,
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say it. It's like there's this
Speaker 1: little thing on my stomach that did not used to
Speaker 1: be there, and I'm like, what the F is that?
Speaker 1: And I will get rid of it. It motivates me
Speaker 1: to get rid of it. But I hate it. I
Speaker 1: hate it. Like I look in the mirror sometimes and
Speaker 1: I go, okay, fine, fine, I'm just ask it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I won't cry, but I want to cry. I
Speaker 1: can't cry. I don't want to watch you crap? Do
Speaker 1: you guys? I think it looks as yucky as I
Speaker 1: think it looks like. And I know you're not talking
Speaker 1: about me because I'm not. No, tell you why. The
Speaker 1: answer is no. Because everyone is their own worst critics,
Speaker 1: absolutely period. You know what I mean? The same way
Speaker 1: I go back. If I listen to a record, I
Speaker 1: cut and I'm just like, oh man, I got to
Speaker 1: fix this thing. You know. If I'm working on something
Speaker 1: in the studio, I mean, I will obsess, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'll just talk about it from from
Speaker 1: an artistic standpoint, you know, I'll get I'll get notes,
Speaker 1: I'll have exchanges with the producers that they're like, I
Speaker 1: don't hear anything wrong, But what do you mean you
Speaker 1: don't hear that? Are you kidding me? It's irritating me,
Speaker 1: like crazy, you gotta be you must be deaf you
Speaker 1: don't hear that, you know what I mean? I think
Speaker 1: we all kind of have that about ourselves in general.
Speaker 1: We are our own worst critics in every capacity. But
Speaker 1: I think the self self criticism is healthy for you,
Speaker 1: you know if you don't. This is another hot topic
Speaker 1: for sure, is negative self talk. I think in our kids,
Speaker 1: in everybody, even men and women that I see, they are,
Speaker 1: like you said, their worst critic. But again there's a
Speaker 1: level of motivation or the fact that it completely makes
Speaker 1: the ruins their day. Like I have some kids who
Speaker 1: won't go to a pool party because they feel so
Speaker 1: horrible and ugly in their swimsuit that they will not
Speaker 1: go and it takes them away from their life. So
Speaker 1: why do they feel horrible and ugly? They because there's
Speaker 1: no it's never like we never had a time when
Speaker 1: everybody was in great shape. They feel horrible and ugly.
Speaker 1: Not because they feel that way, because it's it's what
Speaker 1: they've learned, what they see and what they're told by,
Speaker 1: whether it be social media whatever. Everyone you know, and
Speaker 1: you have, unfortunately have these these people that are their influencers,
Speaker 1: and you have these people that are celebrities, and and
Speaker 1: they get they cheat stuff. They cheat stuff with plastic surgery,
Speaker 1: they cheat stuff with where they can concert themselves and
Speaker 1: then they go up and anyone's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is perfect. That's why a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of times celebrities will do that, no make up there
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I think that's a nice thing to do.
Speaker 1: But these kids don't feel fat because they feel fat
Speaker 1: because there's always been pudgy kids. They feel that way
Speaker 1: because as a society, this is where we've turned things,
Speaker 1: is that oh, if you're not perfect, then you're I
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more and that it's it's so sad. It
Speaker 1: really does break my heart. I mean, coming living in
Speaker 1: a small, you know, state of North Dakota, we used
Speaker 1: to go to pool parties and just put on swimsuits.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember thinking about, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: at like twelve or thirteen, how am I going to
Speaker 1: look in the swimsuit and whatever. I mean, there wasn't
Speaker 1: even that thought. It was like, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: go have fun and hang out with my friends. Now
Speaker 1: there's this level of well, I don't know, should I
Speaker 1: wear a bikini or one piece, or like it is
Speaker 1: my stomach flat today? Or do I wear a cover up?
Speaker 1: It's it's a serious issue, and so I think that
Speaker 1: the negative self talk is just it. It really is destructive,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they understand how destructive it can
Speaker 1: be so just like what you're saying, Amy, it's fine
Speaker 1: to like look in the mirror and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that that part of my body that I really don't like.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do things that I can work on
Speaker 1: it instead of I hate myself today. I'm not gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, go do something because I don't feel secure enough,
Speaker 1: and you know, going out and doing things because of
Speaker 1: my stomach, those kinds of things. So I think that's
Speaker 1: where it becomes can be very destructive when you start
Speaker 1: limiting things that you would rather do um or not
Speaker 1: do because of the way you look, and that makes
Speaker 1: me sad. It's also a really like interesting if you
Speaker 1: look at that. If somebody is self conscious about an
Speaker 1: area of their body, it's a selfish thing because they're
Speaker 1: assuming that everybody else is looking at them, is paying
Speaker 1: attention to that one thing. It's a selfish behavior and
Speaker 1: in reality, probably nobody in the room even has a
Speaker 1: clue about it. So, I mean, you can't see the
Speaker 1: three roles on my neck, right, cannot I find it?
Speaker 1: I got it. But but but to your like, if
Speaker 1: you would have never said that when we met or
Speaker 1: in the first couple of podcasts, I never would have
Speaker 1: noticed it, you know. So I think we we bring
Speaker 1: a lot of this on ourselves by thinking that our
Speaker 1: problem is the biggest problem in the world, and it's
Speaker 1: a selfish act. I couldn't agree with you more because
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that about you at all. I noticed
Speaker 1: all the other problems when I would look at you,
Speaker 1: Amy don't do well, No, I I do have to.
Speaker 1: I will say, like Mr Perfect, because you ever made
Speaker 1: a mistake, dumb and dumber, I will say, getting older,
Speaker 1: being forty five, like it. My body has changed, you know.
Speaker 1: And and it's easy to say, oh, I don't have
Speaker 1: enough time in the day because of work or because
Speaker 1: of my kids or whatever. I quite honestly to your like,
Speaker 1: that is selfishness, you know, And like I could dedicate
Speaker 1: a certain number of times or hours during the day
Speaker 1: to work out. It's just and I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm reaching back to I feel ashamed or bad about
Speaker 1: myself or how I look because I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get back to when I was eighteen or
Speaker 1: twenty one and I was working out eight hours a
Speaker 1: day for water polo or whatever, and I felt at
Speaker 1: that point so good and I could eat fifty burritos
Speaker 1: in a row and not getting a pound. You went
Speaker 1: in the pool after eating, told you told me a liquor.
Speaker 1: I used to sorry. No, I talked about athletes, pharma,
Speaker 1: nutrition and athletes story. This will is going nowhere, but
Speaker 1: it was had to do with heartburn, if I recall
Speaker 1: correctly bringing this up when we first talked in the
Speaker 1: studio and I was saying people were commenting about harbor,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, I used to get harbord all
Speaker 1: the time when I was working out in college, and
Speaker 1: I doubted how to do anything with the beer or
Speaker 1: the marijuana or all the burritos that I was ingesting
Speaker 1: at the time. But I do recall that I would
Speaker 1: eat a huge amount of licorice and starbursts and candy
Speaker 1: right before I would walk in on the pool deck,
Speaker 1: and then I would go work out for three hours,
Speaker 1: and about halfway through practice, I would just get this
Speaker 1: raging hertburn and no idea where it came from. I
Speaker 1: could not figure it out. You up in the pool
Speaker 1: right and then I was swimming and I'd have to
Speaker 1: stop because it was so bad. My water was literally
Speaker 1: like my glands were just spewing out like whatever saliva
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I just started barfing
Speaker 1: in the side side of the pool. It's just already
Speaker 1: and then you're just vomiting twizzlers into the thing the
Speaker 1: side of the pool and turn and say, oh God,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong with me. Something we hadn't
Speaker 1: know what I ate. Let's ask the certified dietitians. We
Speaker 1: would have performance athletes what she thinks. By the way
Speaker 1: he was following your program, it is so funny. That's
Speaker 1: like the worst thing you can do into your body. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see, it worked really well for you for about
Speaker 1: the first hour and a half. First and half you're
Speaker 1: fed on sugar. Can picture a rick up on our
Speaker 1: Instagram so people can see how But no, I feel
Speaker 1: like they're at a certain point. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: back to think just mentally, I mean physically, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to, but I'm trying to get back to where
Speaker 1: I was when I was twenty three or twenty four
Speaker 1: or even two years ago. I was training really hard
Speaker 1: for a water pole tournament and I was going like
Speaker 1: double days for you know, which compared to Brooks was
Speaker 1: only two hours a day to his eight. But um,
Speaker 1: it was it was it felt so good and I
Speaker 1: felt so in shape, and I was swimming and doing
Speaker 1: weights and and now I've just I feel like, I'm
Speaker 1: just what was the main factor that steered you from
Speaker 1: your old program? Uh? Well, the tournament ended and then
Speaker 1: it was party the other subjects. So I think that's
Speaker 1: a big issue for the older people that I've seen
Speaker 1: my practice. I mean, I'm forty two. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: and your body changes over time, and I think with
Speaker 1: older clients I try to remind them, look, you're you
Speaker 1: can't go back to being eighteen and twenty two years
Speaker 1: old again, like that part of your life. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but right, it's just call it like it is. But
Speaker 1: you can have a new body and still be in
Speaker 1: shape and feel great and you know, do the kinds
Speaker 1: of things that make you feel good and confident. But
Speaker 1: if you're trying to chase that eighteen year old like
Speaker 1: come on, like and the problem again, Like living in
Speaker 1: l A, there's so many people who have nips and
Speaker 1: tucks and surgeries and everything else looking absolutely incredible, thinking
Speaker 1: that they're just doing it by diet and exercise. Some
Speaker 1: maybe are, but majority have gotten some serious like surgeries
Speaker 1: done so it's hard to live up to. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, not that I would ever go
Speaker 1: down that road, but I feel like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like until I put in a serious effort, you know,
Speaker 1: to maybe maybe it is eight hours a day or
Speaker 1: six hours or whatever it is. No, it doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be that much, man. But I think I think
Speaker 1: it's like how you get to a point where you
Speaker 1: feel good about yourself. Absolutely. So I have a question
Speaker 1: for Rick and Brooks. Rick, if you're supposed to swim
Speaker 1: across Lake Tahoe, don't you have to start training for that? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm starting. Wait, it's a Tahoe swim relay with six
Speaker 1: other people and you swim Twizzlers. I think it was
Speaker 1: red Vines. Red Vines came in with a better deal, buddy,
Speaker 1: what is this? Tell me about this? Yeah? No, So
Speaker 1: it's a trans Tahoe relay and basically you swim across
Speaker 1: the Lake Tahoe and there's six people in your boat.
Speaker 1: It's could be co ed, male, female, whatever, And so
Speaker 1: it's a relay race. So you have a starter and
Speaker 1: you swim for half an hour and then you tag
Speaker 1: that person or jump in the water. Then X person
Speaker 1: goes for half hour and then you shorten it every
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. The water is freezing. Oh damn. I think
Speaker 1: it's snowed up there last year, but a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago. Um. But you basically relay all the way
Speaker 1: until you finish, and uh, it's a great race. I
Speaker 1: mean it's you. It's July yet training, so there's no
Speaker 1: wet suit of no wetsuit allowed. You gonna rock the
Speaker 1: speed up only of course are going to be able
Speaker 1: to um. So yeah, it's I've done it three other times.
Speaker 1: It's it's excellent. You get a nice sunny day, you're
Speaker 1: out on a boat with you know, six or eight
Speaker 1: of your good friends, and you're you're getting some great
Speaker 1: exercise in and high altitude. There's no I mean the
Speaker 1: water is fresh, so it's it's a little bit harder
Speaker 1: to swim in. You do that sober? Yeah? I do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you want us afterwards draining talk? Yeah? Do you
Speaker 1: want us out there for support like shouting from the
Speaker 1: sideline from the Yeah, but we're coming. I want to
Speaker 1: follow that up. So he's talked about this is what
Speaker 1: I want to get to, which is what Rick is
Speaker 1: talking about. It is about performance nutrition, because there's nutrition,
Speaker 1: there's everyday nutrition. Let's be healthy nutrition. But then a
Speaker 1: lot of our listeners of this show are achievers, are
Speaker 1: performers that want high level, the best of the best.
Speaker 1: They want to elevate, succeed, and they want to do
Speaker 1: amazing things with their life. And I want and for me,
Speaker 1: nutrition has been a big part of my life and
Speaker 1: it's helped me succeed and elevate. I want to get
Speaker 1: into performance nutrition for myself. Also because my wife, who
Speaker 1: eats very healthy, last night she threw up after we
Speaker 1: went out for a meal. What did she go from
Speaker 1: super clean to something not clean at all? It was well,
Speaker 1: it was just it was no. It wasn't an extreme no.
Speaker 1: But but she more than me. She rides a roller
Speaker 1: coaster daily. I don't know if any of your guys's
Speaker 1: wives are like that, but she rides almost a roller
Speaker 1: coaster daily where something affects her to the point where
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't watch you go through this roller
Speaker 1: coaster and have these It's not mood swings, it's it's
Speaker 1: feeling swings on how her body feels based on nutrition.
Speaker 1: So where can we find get some blood work down
Speaker 1: or something find what we should and should not say.
Speaker 1: I normally tell clients to ask their because they'll go
Speaker 1: through their insurance. UM. That's usually, but I know there
Speaker 1: are different places around l A that do that. I
Speaker 1: just can't. I don't know off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: But normally I'll tell client to go talk to their
Speaker 1: doctor and get a blood test done. A food allergy
Speaker 1: a full panel of every food out there, so it
Speaker 1: has everything from spices and um, because some people are
Speaker 1: highly don't even realize that garlic is actually one of
Speaker 1: the top ones that most people can't digest, and they've
Speaker 1: been garlics and everything, so exactly, so if they're getting sick.
Speaker 1: But here's the other problem with this test, to be honest,
Speaker 1: is I wouldn't go fishing for something that isn't there
Speaker 1: because some of these tests will come back. And I
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of things that you might have
Speaker 1: slight allergies to. So some of the clients that come
Speaker 1: to me, yes, exactly. So it depends on the middle
Speaker 1: of the ground of like how obsessive they become. Because
Speaker 1: I was like, well, yeah, you have you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit of sensitivity to this, but you really do
Speaker 1: love cheese let's say and you have a little sensitivity,
Speaker 1: maybe don't eat it as often, but don't take it
Speaker 1: out because they're like, oh my god, now I can
Speaker 1: never reach cheese and that's one of my favorite food.
Speaker 1: But of course, if they are lactos and taller and
Speaker 1: if they have like an actual allergy to it, I
Speaker 1: would absolutely tell them to take it out. So I
Speaker 1: would talk to the doctor about getting a blood test
Speaker 1: done and get a full panel of blood work to
Speaker 1: see what exactly, and they'll give you an entire chart
Speaker 1: which the client will bring to me and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now design a meal plan based on all these different
Speaker 1: sensitivities that I have, and we'll kind of rate them
Speaker 1: one to ten of like what are you most sensitive to?
Speaker 1: Then we have to take that out? What can we
Speaker 1: replace with? And there's so many amazing replacements now, especially
Speaker 1: living in l A, we're so lucky that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different foods. So that's first and foremost. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you really want to dial that in because you're
Speaker 1: having some issues, but if you don't have any issues
Speaker 1: at all, and you feel really good, but you just
Speaker 1: want to get you know, at a higher level with
Speaker 1: your nutrition. Then that's a different conversation. Then I would say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's currently look at what you're doing first and foremost
Speaker 1: take seven days exactly what you're eating in the times,
Speaker 1: Look at your sleep, look at your hydration. Sleep, by
Speaker 1: the way, is like the number one for me because
Speaker 1: that you've got to get your body on a rhythm, right,
Speaker 1: the Sarcadia rhythm is a real thing. You can't be
Speaker 1: going one one day, you're in bed by ten. The
Speaker 1: next day you're going to two, and then seven, and
Speaker 1: then you're napping for two hours because you're all over
Speaker 1: the place. You first have to get your body in
Speaker 1: some sort of a rhythm. So try to eat around
Speaker 1: the same times every day, try to exercise ideally around
Speaker 1: the same time, sleep around the same time if you can.
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's the impossible, and you just have to
Speaker 1: do the best you can. But try to get your
Speaker 1: body functioning that way. That's number one. And then most
Speaker 1: people don't drink enough water throughout the day. Now, for
Speaker 1: your community they're talking to, they're probably big on health
Speaker 1: and nutritions. They probably are and very cognizant about bringing
Speaker 1: a water bottle with them, But a lot of people
Speaker 1: ask them they'll see me at three o'clock and I'm like, a,
Speaker 1: how much water And they're like, I don't know, they
Speaker 1: have no idea. They maybe had a sip of water
Speaker 1: at lunch today. So those kinds of things are important.
Speaker 1: But talking about super foods, um, I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of collagen. I think collagen powder is really definitely effective. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: college and peptide. So there's like protein powder that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Well you knew this probably
Speaker 1: at at the Kings, but bone broth I think is
Speaker 1: really effective. So there are things that are out there.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Beat juice, huge fan of
Speaker 1: Beat juice, Cherry juice, Jerry juice. Right, I had one
Speaker 1: quick question. How much does caffeine play a role in
Speaker 1: all of this? Oh, that's good coffee. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: in terms of like mental clarity or just in terms
Speaker 1: of getting not not like the elite athletes side of it,
Speaker 1: just on a daily thing and how that works in
Speaker 1: your diet and doesn't like all really have a couple
Speaker 1: of cups of coffee in the morning, about three small
Speaker 1: cups and regular size small cups, and then I'll have
Speaker 1: a yogurt, like for me I have a beau. You're like,
Speaker 1: because you're saying, I have a have a couple of
Speaker 1: cups of coffee, probably three? Uh not? You know, regular cups,
Speaker 1: the small ones, the small regular one. You're contradicting yourself
Speaker 1: with everything. Are the smaller regular really having sore? Is
Speaker 1: it fine for you to have that much? Should you
Speaker 1: have more to have that much? So here's here's what
Speaker 1: I would say. If you need, if you need caffeine
Speaker 1: to get through your day. But if you if you
Speaker 1: have three cups of coffee, let's say, in the morning
Speaker 1: to start your day, and you feel fine, you're not jittery,
Speaker 1: you don't. And if you're drinking enough water, you're not.
Speaker 1: You know, you're hydrating yourself that kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: you're fine. There's nothing wrong with starting your day. If
Speaker 1: you need to have caffeine all day long to get
Speaker 1: through your day, then we've got another problem. So I
Speaker 1: would say I usually say two to three EMAX cups
Speaker 1: of coffee, um or if you have a cup of
Speaker 1: coffee in the morning and you want to latte in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, it's fine. But if you're needing cup after
Speaker 1: cup after cup through to get through your work day,
Speaker 1: we've got bigger issues and what is the most What's
Speaker 1: what's a good amount of water for the common dad
Speaker 1: body guy? I usually say around four leaders. So if
Speaker 1: you get like a leader bottle, any of those bottles,
Speaker 1: and then drinks specifically from that bottle, like fill it
Speaker 1: up so you can track it versus oh, I had
Speaker 1: a cup here and cup there, but I never really
Speaker 1: finished the whole cup, so it's only SIPs out of it,
Speaker 1: and then you have no idea challenge. My wife is
Speaker 1: doing this right now. She has a purple water bottle
Speaker 1: that's a gallon and it has little markings on. At
Speaker 1: seven am, nine am, keep going, it's lunchtime for six.
Speaker 1: Enjoy dinner pushed through till you know, bedtime, and you
Speaker 1: try and drink a gallon water I drink. I drink
Speaker 1: about six to eight of those thirty two ounds now
Speaker 1: geane bottles, you know every day, probably every thirty minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's about thirty three three minutes I have I have
Speaker 1: a quick um Yeavin, you might want to listen to
Speaker 1: this because it's about steak. Um all. I love steak.
Speaker 1: I love to eat it. But when I eat steak,
Speaker 1: I used to kind of not feel great after it.
Speaker 1: But when I started eating grass fed beef, I feel
Speaker 1: a ton better. Yeah, it's easier for your body to
Speaker 1: digest and break down, like as simple as that. Honestly,
Speaker 1: So that's so there is not something I'm imagine that
Speaker 1: that is. It is much better, absolutely because I will
Speaker 1: There were times when I would get wake up, like
Speaker 1: with like a meat hangover. But when it's if it's
Speaker 1: a grass fed steak or something, I wake up and
Speaker 1: I feel good. I think has to do with the
Speaker 1: one over another word for diarrhea. No, it means you
Speaker 1: feel like slow, like I'm like the salt and I
Speaker 1: feel slow, and I just feel like yeah, like my no,
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, that's from the beat challenge. I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought they said that if you ate grass fed beef,
Speaker 1: you could basically ignore all of the negative breasts that
Speaker 1: beef gets grass except for the killing of animals. It's
Speaker 1: grass fed, it depends. I mean, it's definitely higher quality,
Speaker 1: there's no question. And I would much rather you eat
Speaker 1: high quality meats across the board, like grass fed and
Speaker 1: organic and bison. Bison is amazing. Bison is actually lower
Speaker 1: and sad, yes, but I wouldn't say that you can
Speaker 1: eat as much as you want and then Mr Nutrition
Speaker 1: Gavin could be Christie's assistant you know too, I mean
Speaker 1: you we could do that. Do I hear a little
Speaker 1: grass fed beef song on the next album? Yeah, okay
Speaker 1: we have Danielle has a question from a listener. Can
Speaker 1: you please read it? The question is from a listener
Speaker 1: who shall remain nameless. Um, what is a sexy Instagram
Speaker 1: post from a woman? What isn't? Oh? Oh? I thought, wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: that is going a different direction. But let's go at this, gav.
Speaker 1: What's the sexy post on Instagram? And what isn't? What's
Speaker 1: going to get a double tap from Mr Gavin DeGraw
Speaker 1: and what is not? Wow? Man like the way women look?
Speaker 1: Everything's everything gets alike. They all deserve to be like
Speaker 1: what is that like? But is that like? Is that
Speaker 1: like a participation? Interesting? Thanks for being a woman? Double tap? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that a participan? Like congratulations on ninth place? I
Speaker 1: like partticipation. I like participates the pend I guess you're right.
Speaker 1: I guess it does depend on the post. What is sexy?
Speaker 1: Not too much? Too much is too much? But it's
Speaker 1: hard to find a touch of class isn't it. You
Speaker 1: guys got married to somebody who probably thought it was
Speaker 1: a little classier than the rest. So a lot of
Speaker 1: it probably requires them growing out of the Instagram phase
Speaker 1: so they could establish class and uh, you know, some
Speaker 1: can come back to it and start a new account.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is on topic. Real sorry
Speaker 1: to meet you, to catch you. If they're trying too hard,
Speaker 1: that is not attractive. Trying too hard when they look
Speaker 1: like they have showered like clean. Now it's starting to
Speaker 1: come out. Now you're starting to get more specific. Good
Speaker 1: soap up, but dry it up. This is not look
Speaker 1: like they take showers. That's important to me. I'll say this.
Speaker 1: I like, I don't like over the top like. I
Speaker 1: would much rather prefer well one. I don't like the
Speaker 1: duck lips and all that kind of stuff, but I
Speaker 1: would much rather the worst. When they go like like college,
Speaker 1: like the like the injections. I don't like the I
Speaker 1: don't like the sexy poses I am more of I
Speaker 1: would right at your grandfather. It's fine, but it's like like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I would rather see someone in a
Speaker 1: in a pretty outfit as a sexyfit as opposed to
Speaker 1: seeing someone in like their bikini posing for the world
Speaker 1: to see. Like, to me, I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is a friend of mine that I
Speaker 1: was following in all I am following and she had
Speaker 1: just posted a photo of herself with some friends and
Speaker 1: she was in full bikini. And I mean, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, she looked great, but it was like it
Speaker 1: was past the age of like she was trying too hard.
Speaker 1: Like that was her whole point of the post was
Speaker 1: to like, hey, I look awesome in this bikini, and
Speaker 1: you're fishing for compliments and for attention, and that's a
Speaker 1: turn off, by the way, right, And it's like she's married,
Speaker 1: she got kids, She's all It's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, have I done that myself? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think so, you know, I'm like leaning down and showing
Speaker 1: my you know, try separate whatever it's called. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: good I look. But I think going to that question,
Speaker 1: it's like, I think, if you're trying too hard, it
Speaker 1: comes across as bad. Let's ask let's ask the lady here, right,
Speaker 1: what's acceptable, what's not? What? What do you feel as
Speaker 1: a sexy post? What is over the top? What's too much?
Speaker 1: I hate it when dudes take a picture in front
Speaker 1: of a mirror, or when they are like recording themselves
Speaker 1: work out like that. Oh no, what's going on? Vinn
Speaker 1: Gavin just got Brooks is check? Yavin just got Brooks
Speaker 1: is check? Oh my god? Like what Bush? I think
Speaker 1: he's coming back? Everybody, Brooks is in the men's roum
Speaker 1: right now. Brooks is in the man's room right now
Speaker 1: doing push up and trying. I wanted to take a
Speaker 1: potty for you, drink too much water and he had
Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom real quick. But he is
Speaker 1: coming back. Doesn't like musicians or who is this chick?
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I would love to see what Brooks
Speaker 1: is doing because he's reputable in that field. So that
Speaker 1: makes sense to me for you to post a work
Speaker 1: video influencer and an athlete sort of that's a difference.
Speaker 1: Or just like you're you know a guy that you
Speaker 1: follow on Instagram that you went to college with that
Speaker 1: has no relation to the workout field or health and
Speaker 1: fitness world posting a video of him working out because
Speaker 1: he wants he wants to show off his biceps, Like
Speaker 1: that is not attractive to me. Or when a guy
Speaker 1: post a picture of him in the mirror showing off
Speaker 1: his apps. I'm like, I don't want to see that.
Speaker 1: You know what, do you want that? Yeah? Yeah, sure
Speaker 1: you're married. You might not want to see it. But
Speaker 1: do girls go on Instagram? Do women go on Instagram
Speaker 1: so they could check out a dude. That's when I
Speaker 1: go back to my John Stamos shirtless and I just
Speaker 1: google it. How do you feel about that? It's awesome, Peter.
Speaker 1: So this is like he's Peter Gallagher is like very old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want offend him if he's listening. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was on the O C and he's on Grayce and
Speaker 1: Frankie and I have spent a lot of time googling
Speaker 1: Peter Gallagher shirtless, but it takes me too far back
Speaker 1: to the eighties and I want the current Peter Gallagher
Speaker 1: shirt right looks Yes, he's like sixty and he is
Speaker 1: so hot, and I'm like, I don't know why, but
Speaker 1: I'm into it. Oh, I'm sure he's got it, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's married. That's why I also had my
Speaker 1: weird Michael Keaton phase that many people remember very good.
Speaker 1: So I think we figured out who anonymous email did
Speaker 1: a lot of Michael Keaton shirtless for a long time there.
Speaker 1: But I think you're right, Amy in the sense that
Speaker 1: there there are a few women that I do follow
Speaker 1: and for certain looks on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, not down
Speaker 1: the street my car. Yeah, I don't typically stand outside
Speaker 1: their house only on Thursdays. But you don't stand there
Speaker 1: because they'll see you. You don't go behind and then
Speaker 1: I go over the fence. Totally done this before, but
Speaker 1: there they happen to be models. But I do want
Speaker 1: to see certain things, you know, in an Instagram it's
Speaker 1: not as fun as you know, watching my you know
Speaker 1: friends hit the ball over the fence, you know, or
Speaker 1: play baseball or whatever. There are certain things that you
Speaker 1: want to seek out to kind of get a little
Speaker 1: jive off of, you know, buzz. But um, I do
Speaker 1: have something else at another point of like, is it
Speaker 1: this maybe going down a different path and we'll eat
Speaker 1: and we'll take it all out. But is there a
Speaker 1: difference between somebody working out on Instagram for a business
Speaker 1: or a purpose and somebody who is standing there would
Speaker 1: because he's a tablemaker or a woodcraft er and he's
Speaker 1: trying to sell his tables or cutting boards or whatever.
Speaker 1: Would work like maybe he's shirtless. Maybe you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, here's here's my approach on it. So
Speaker 1: for the for the dudes things, I think there's a
Speaker 1: massive this maybe a good podcast or something one day.
Speaker 1: I think there's a massive difference between those guys next
Speaker 1: time recording. Um, I think there's a massive difference between
Speaker 1: an influencer and somebody that is an athlete or credible
Speaker 1: in like, when I work out, it's actually training, it's
Speaker 1: it's professional level training, trying to compete with and against
Speaker 1: the best in the world. And what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do with these posts to create a community of this
Speaker 1: and inspire other people to become the best versions of themselves.
Speaker 1: They don't have to keep compete at my level. But
Speaker 1: it is an area that I know I have proven,
Speaker 1: I have a resume incredibility there and I'm doing it
Speaker 1: from an authentic place and I'm growing a community like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not posting and have never posted a shirtless in
Speaker 1: front of a mirror with the towel really low so
Speaker 1: you can almost see your biss like, I've never done that,
Speaker 1: But I do love sharing fitness. So when you see
Speaker 1: like some of the influencers working out doing such and such,
Speaker 1: and you go back and look at their old high
Speaker 1: school scores and you're like, yeah, but you still suck
Speaker 1: at sports because it's not it's not all about being good.
Speaker 1: You're fit, but you're terrible athlete, doesn't matter that. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just different. It's whatever. Your fitness schools are
Speaker 1: good for you, So if I do good for them, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. And talking to you last time, it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to get motivated, and you
Speaker 1: came up with some ideas and every time I see
Speaker 1: your Instagram post on whether you're doing squats or rows
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like literally, I think it was three days ago,
Speaker 1: I went to the gym, which had been a long time,
Speaker 1: and I literally saw one of those bikes that you
Speaker 1: move the handles this way. You know. Yeah I didn't
Speaker 1: today and wheel thinking and I was looking around the gym,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I hate running on the treadmill. I
Speaker 1: hate this. I'm like Brooks rides that thing. And so
Speaker 1: I hopped on a good machine. It's a good machine,
Speaker 1: and I was like, dang, you know, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do that, you know, And because of your post and
Speaker 1: maybe everybody would like to follow us on Instagram? Oh
Speaker 1: what is our instagram? How men think? Podcast? And our
Speaker 1: email men at I Heart radio dot com. So we
Speaker 1: we want to what else you got, Amy, I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking we'll put all the kind of photos you like.
Speaker 1: Let's let us know who you want shirtless selfie of
Speaker 1: on our on our man that I men and if
Speaker 1: you want our bits, you just let us know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go visit spread Eagle dot com at my art radio. Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, Christie, back to you. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Because you are such an asset. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for taking the time today. You've impacted my life when
Speaker 1: we were when I was with the Kings, and I
Speaker 1: want to continue to work with you and with my
Speaker 1: wife on our nutrition and performance nutrition. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you for their children's nutrition, their nutrition? Anything? Where
Speaker 1: on our instagram? Look at my bits? We're losing Christie.
Speaker 1: Where can where can our listeners find you? It's camp
Speaker 1: Sports Nutrition dot com or they can just email me
Speaker 1: at Christie it's not okay, w R D Morrale at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. So m O R R E L correct.
Speaker 1: So Christie r D as in registered dietitian Morrel m
Speaker 1: O R R E L L at gmail dot com. Christie, Christie,
Speaker 1: it's the K K R I S T Y. Because
Speaker 1: there's lots of ways on Instagram. Can people contact you
Speaker 1: on Instagram or Facebook? You said Facebook, Yes, yeah, Christie
Speaker 1: M Christie M work out just fine? Or for anybody
Speaker 1: else listening. If you want access to Christie, email us
Speaker 1: man at I heeart radio dot com. We'll get you
Speaker 1: connected with her. We'll maybe put some of these in
Speaker 1: show notes, some of the ways you can connect with Christie. UM.
Speaker 1: Round of applause for you, Thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: If I did bring you guys to treat I said
Speaker 1: that the best snacks. The last thing for yeah, steak it.
Speaker 1: What do we got our liquorice? Rick wants some damn liquorice. Learning.
Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Brooks and one last thing before you
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