WEBVTT - What's Eating You? 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:05.600 This is how with Brooks and Gavin to grab and 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.440 I heard radio podcast how do you everybody? My name 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.000 is Brooks like and this is how men think podcasts 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.440 where we are decoding the man code, as we like 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.160 to say. And I'm sitting here with my handsome, very well, 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:24.560 extremely well dressed hands Mr Gavin de Grost see you Brooks, 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.920 the very very handsome Brooks. How you doing today, buddy? 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:33.080 You look man today? I'm always happy. You're always happy, man. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.240 I try to be happy. Even when I'm not happy, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.239 I'm gonna smile, yeah, because you know what I mean. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.919 You have those beautiful teeth, right, Actually, let's not talk 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:44.760 about my crooked teeth. No, hey, they're beautiful. How's life 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:46.680 with your buddy? You've been busy? Things are great and man, 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.280 busy busy, gotta be busy. You're always busy. You're not 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.400 busy or in trouble. Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.120 If you're not busy your board, you're thinking about how 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:56.840 you feel. And if you're thinking about how you feel 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.880 too much, you're not busy enough. You do a podcast. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.360 That's right, Let's do a podcast talk about how do 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.800 you feel? Instead of me? Yeah, we also got here 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.319 with us. We've got Dmitri and we've got Rick. Good sirs, Dmitri, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:09.800 what's up with you? How you doing, buddy? I'm doing 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.080 pretty well. Feel good. Likewise I should say you look good, 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.039 look good? Yeah, you went from handsome too. We got 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:19.960 these guys. That's fine. I'm not fishing for compliments. You 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:26.000 wouldn't hurt Greg. How you doing, boss? Horrible? Horrible? I'm 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.280 doing excellent. Yeah, I'm excellent, awesome. Appreciate you guys coming 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.440 in today and also today we're very excited we have 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.120 a great episode for you guys. Very excited to introduce 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:40.279 the special guests on the podcast. Christie Morrel was welcome 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:47.200 to So. Christie is a dietitian for USC. She has 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.480 a private practice, and she was also gentleman our dietitian 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.360 for the l A Kings when I played with the 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.800 King history right there. Yeah, so we have worked together. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.400 She's amazing, exceptional her job and exceptional communicating. And also 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.280 I'll say this, Christie, she has the best snacks. She 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.320 always comes packing with the best. I really do. I 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.640 would agree with that completely. That is a love of 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.760 mine is to find really good, healthy but tasty snacks 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.440 can I just say I'm a little relieved because you 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.880 actually have the same name as my girlfriend from college 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.520 that didn't end well. And when I saw Christie morrell 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.079 is coming in, I was like, oh my god, are 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.520 you serious, and last like this is gonna be awkward, 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.760 but that's too bad. I really would like damn a 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.840 good show. Well, Amy, now you know, book another Christie Morrell. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.639 But we appreciate you being here. I have so many 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.680 questions for you personally. UM, we work together. It wasn't 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.760 long enough. The King's released me. If you have any 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.240 pull there, you know, UM, let to know I'm still 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:48.240 in shape and I will come back. But I appreciate Uh. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.480 I look forward to picking your brain because you work 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.000 with athletes and performers all the time. UM, have a 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.600 wealth of knowledge. But the first topic we want to 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.320 get to is Rick has had an issue with one 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.480 of his kids, which I believe you'll be a lot 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.080 of help with. So I'll say with this too, rip 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.440 pay Christy. Really want to get into the topic of 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.560 diet and health with you, for sure, but I wanted 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.720 to ask you just one quick question about when do 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.880 at what age is appropriate four kids to get cut 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.040 or make the team or when do athletics turn into 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.160 like a real competition. You know, my my daughter was 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.079 recently cut from She has been playing soccer club soccer 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:27.880 for the last three years and she was on the 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.640 the A team and recently they had tryouts and she 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.640 got cut and moved down to the got cut to 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.120 the B team, and um, you know, we were quite 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.880 honestly speaking, we were all devastated. And she was devastated, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.040 not from the fact that she went from the aid 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.680 of the B team, but she was just emotionally. She's ten. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.400 I think at the time she was just emotionally distraught. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.680 It was more social, I believe than it was anything about, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.240 you know, not being good at soccer or at a 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.440 certain level. Um. Frankly, I think she was at the 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.320 right level where she got placed. But UM, I do think, 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.120 you know what, what kind of just has been driving 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.800 me and my wife lately is you know, like we 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.240 were you know, I'm a competitor. I played sports in college, Um, 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.680 you know, and so it was just drove me nuts. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.440 The first thing I want to do was like, we're 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.160 going out on the field and we're going to practice 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:16.760 for three hours, you know. And then I was like 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.480 sitting back and I'm like, that's not good. That's not 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:20.720 the right way to do it, you know. I mean, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.080 she's only ten, And my my thing I wanted to 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.360 bring up in here was like, what is the most 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.359 appropriate age to start kids where it is ultracompetitive, you know, 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.279 and what's the right thing? You know. You hear stories 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.120 about parents that are living vicariously through their children and 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.880 dads and moms getting in fights at school or at 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.880 the at the game and stuff, and so, um, that 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.239 was just something I wanted to share upon with you guys. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.520 With you also, that's a great question, and I think that, Um, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.400 I think a lot of parents do that. So if 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:56.039 you're a good parent, in my opinion, you have those conversations. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.600 Is it more important for her to get on the 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.120 field and keep practicing and try again next year, or 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.440 is it more important for you to see her to 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:04.800 be able to do that, you know what I mean. 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.599 So I think when when you have a huge disappointment 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.160 like that, it's almost supporting her, loving her and just 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.120 be like, you know, obviously, for whatever reason, it is 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.599 what it is right now. You can't just stay in 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.960 that lull and be sad for the rest of you know, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.919 the year, but what can you do to empower yourself 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.040 to maybe you want to try again or maybe not? 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.680 And that should be a conversation versus Okay, honey, what 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.360 we're gonna do is on Sunday, we're gonna get out 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.320 there for three hours. We're going to practice that one kick. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.320 It's like, whoa dad? Like really, So I think it's 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.680 important for the kid to be competitive and to want 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.000 to be competitive, not the parents. So it's like, all right, 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.120 we're gonna get out there and we're gonna does she 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.799 wanted to? I know she's disappointed, but does she feel 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.920 the fire to want to get back to that a team? 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.479 Like she's got to have that, not you. So and 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.880 I'm not saying that's that's what you're doing, but I 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.240 think it's important. You know, my my daughters played club 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.039 soccer as well, and it's like and my wife played 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.080 soccer and co and stuff, so she's she's really we're 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.599 both competitive people, but it's like we want them to 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.480 have that fire. It's awesome that they do and if 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.919 they do, but I realize that if if we push 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.240 them to do that, and it's not a good mix. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.240 So Christie, you have two kids. Correct, Yes, I have 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.680 two boys, two boys twelve and Dylan will be ten 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.440 in July. So you're you're rights just starting to get 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.720 into thick of it um And you work with athletes, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.720 you work with USC, you work with kings, you work 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.960 with top level athletes. How do you approach it from 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.240 a standpoint of when is it time at like your 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.360 twelve year old, is it time to now start dialing 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.960 in his nutrition and trying to build him up to 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:41.920 be an athlete? Or do you just defer to him 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.679 what he wants? When is it time as a parent 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.880 to start escalating the process if your kid wants to 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.479 be an athlete. So this would be an awesome question 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.400 for my kids because I think, because of what I 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.240 do and what I know, I have been teaching them 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.120 and I think, Aime, you can um comment on this, 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.960 but they have always eaten really well, not to the 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.440 point where they don't eat sugar. I don't allow it. 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:10.520 So I think as parents, you should start teaching your kids, 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.600 educating your kids, communicating with your kids about nutrition from 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.040 as little as they can, you know, as soon as 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.040 they start eating honestly, because you can't be like, Okay, 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:21.880 we're just going to kind of let you do your thing, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.240 eat whatever you want, and oh, now you want to 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.120 play sports, Okay, We're just gonna like undo all the 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.040 things and try to have you eat healthy and take 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.840 care of your body. It's like, you should be taking 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.480 care of your body, whether you want to play sports 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.120 or not. And then I would say for Devon certainly 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.080 right now, he's at that age. Interestingly enough, we have 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.280 a beach uh date coming up and he's like, Mom, 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:45.440 I really want to be able to take off my 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:50.520 shirt and feel good about my abs. And I'm like, okay, um, 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:55.720 so so um. He's like, are the things that I 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.000 could be doing differently? I love his communication with me 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.480 because we talk about nutrition all the time in our house. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.480 He's like, what can I be doing differently? Or I 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.320 could feel better about my stomach? And I'm like, that's 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.640 a great question. You know. Sometimes it's genetic for kids, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.920 Like some kids have that, Like my youngest son, Dylan 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.920 has a very flat stomach, and he probably and he 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.720 just does like he has one of those kids that 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.320 you would see and he's just always gonna have a 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.400 very flat stomach. Devon just doesn't. And so I talked 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.000 to him about Okay, well you could cut back here 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.000 and here if you want to on some sugar that 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.080 you're consuming, and we'll just kind of lay it out 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.240 for him. But I don't ever press like, oh, you 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.440 need to have x amount. I would never say to 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.720 a kid ever to start counting calories, to start measuring 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:42.240 their food to um, you know, way themselves, or to 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.880 do anything that could jeopardize the relationship with food and 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.200 their body. So if if he came to me and 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.840 it's like I because he's into wrestling right now, and 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.839 of course that wrestling is a sport where it's a 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.760 little tricky with weight, but he's not at that level yet. Um. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.800 But in terms of getting him to be competition ready, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.640 or if if a kid asked, I would say, yeah, 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.360 let's look at your current eating like current eating habits, 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.320 what could you do differently? Could you eat more protein 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.480 and a little less snacky foods. Could we find replacements 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.959 of things that you like that are healthier that might 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.000 help you cut back on a little bit of body fat. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.280 Because it is a competitive world, but you have to 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.320 be able to be It's such a delicate topic and 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.480 I think parents involvement can get a little sticky. So 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.199 sometimes you want to bring in a professional because then 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.439 you don't have to have that conversation of then the 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.680 kids starts to eat something like chicken nuggets and you're like, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.400 wait a second, I thought you said you wanted to, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:43.280 you know, get a little bit leaner. That is, I mean, 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.240 that becomes a little bit tricky because then you're now 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.640 the food police and then they feel like, oh, you're 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.960 watching them, and I'll tell you right now, from all 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.920 the kids that I see in my private practice, that's 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.920 where things start to brew. And then once they've gone 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.160 down that path, it's it's a tough one to pull 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.080 back on. So you do want to be careful. The 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:01.840 opposite is bad too. You don't want to reward them 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.000 with donuts exactly same thing, because then they're shooting for 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.719 that and then they're eating the opposite way and you're 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.320 giving that to them. Absolutely. I once said, when I 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.120 was growing up playing hockey, one of the guys like 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.120 in my class and on my hockey team would get 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:18.080 a score bar every time he scored a goal. True, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.480 sorry to get a score bar from his dad every 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.880 time he scored a goal. And we played this one town, 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.960 we beat them, forty five nothing. We beat him forty 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.600 five rip. He picked up eight goals and he got 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:34.079 eight score bars. He has no legs, and he was 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.640 a very large child like he was to this day 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.600 still is a large absolutely, And I think and again 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.200 I think parents, parents do that often. Oh you're you're 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.199 sad from school, you had a fight with a friend. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.240 Let's go get you some ice cream, you'll feel better. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.520 It's almost like something that kids, you know, they it's 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.600 a reward system, and that's how they cope with their 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.760 feelings and then that last them. There can less than 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.720 their whole life. That's how they reward themselves or you know, well, 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.960 I was gonna I was gonna say it, Like I 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.600 feel like it's a fine line, Like you're saying, is 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.880 is the food situation or the nutrition versus Like at 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:14.400 what point does competitiveness take over where it's like parents 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:15.960 are pushing their kids, you know. And I feel like 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.240 this is maybe a little bit of a bigger picture, 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.880 but like it is important for you know, you can 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.120 use athletics to get into college now and you don't 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:24.439 have to get in a natural way. In fact, I 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.960 wouldn't say it's easier, but it's definitely a different path, right, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.319 you know, it is a huge one. I took it myself. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.840 And but like there are people that are trying to 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.280 use that private coaches, private quarterback, you know, and trying 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.080 to get their kid to be that much better. And 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.560 it's and I think it's it's almost like this way 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.559 of you know, pushing them to a limit where they're 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.400 looking for other outlets to get away from that sport. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.840 You know, most kids at certain point, you know, and 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.000 it's like they're either going to food or drugs or 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.800 whatever else, you know, and it's horrible. A question, A 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.240 question for you. I get asked by a parent that 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.199 a kid's twelve years old or thirteen years ago, what 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.560 kind of protein does he need to be on? Does 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.760 he need to be taking? When should they really if 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:11.280 they want to be a competitive athlete, When can you 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.960 start them on proper nutrition and really educate them on it. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.680 I think when they ask for it, When they ask 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.839 for it, then they're ready to listen and do something 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.080 about it, do you know what I mean? So if 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.319 the parent is saying you should do this, then the 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.040 kids like, I don't really want to and I really 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.840 like my pizza and whatever. It doesn't matter how much 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.320 you talk to them or educate them. They're ultimately going 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:31.840 to put the food in their body when they're at 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.120 that birthday party or when they're at their friend's house. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.200 So when the when the kid says to you, I 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.520 really want to focus on this, I really want to 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.959 gain speed, so I know that I can be better 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.360 if I really dial in my nutrition or however they 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.000 probably use those types of language, but and they're asking 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.280 for it, that's the time they'd be like, great, you 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.920 know what, Then we're gonna get a professional because mom 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.240 or daddy doesn't know exactly how you should be eating. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.640 We're gonna get somebody who can talk to and really 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.480 understand how do we do this and there is a 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.560 correct way of doing it. And unfortunately kids are way 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.800 to expose now to YouTube videos and all this other 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.680 stuff and they're just going to get information online or 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.760 in other places and it's not age appropriate. These kids 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.640 are still growing, so they shouldn't be taking supplements. They 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.600 shouldn't be taking all these protein powders. They can do 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.160 it in a natural way and in a healthy way, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.680 so they don't feel like, you know, they have to 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.880 be again counting everything or measuring or just becoming obsessive. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.440 And that, unfortunately, is something I'm so passionate about because 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:35.360 I think more and more kids are almost the obsessive 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.960 nous with it, getting obsession or having obsession with it 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.559 versus something that's healthy. So what would be an appropriate 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.280 age for somebody to start taking a supplement? That's a 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.600 great question. I would say, when they're then they when 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.000 they're done growing. That depends what kind of supplement you're 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.040 talking about. But let's see asked the most by like 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.960 hockey parents, parents back in Canada, people that know me 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.240 or my dad or my mom, they ask a about 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:04.200 protein and creatine because they might know somebody that's on 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.840 And these kids are thirteen and four. So definitely absolutely 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.160 not at that age. I mean, I would say, and 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:14.000 again I'm not it depends on the person, but when 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:18.920 they're done growing would be ideal, so or maybe kind 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:23.000 of like senior in high school, maybe to college somewhere 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.440 on there. I wouldn't. I wouldn't start them any sooner 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.520 because and it's it's actually not proven. I can I 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:32.680 can give athletes and I have many times great muscle 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.880 building or ways that they can lean out without having 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.840 to take any kind of artificial type of supplements. There's 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.680 ways to do it. So can you give us some 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.760 examples for that, for for even just for a parent, 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.800 if a parents looking to lean out, or if a 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.560 kid is eighteen nineteen or going to college looking to 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.640 lean out and be an athlete, what would be some 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.720 natural ways or foods that could help that kid. Sure. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.040 The first thing I do is have each they can 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.960 do this right now if if they wanted to, but 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.080 have them write down everything that they're eating for or 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.920 a week and start to see little holes they're like, oh, yeah, 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.680 I snack on like when I'm in the car, or 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.360 I wait too long to eat, and then I get 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.440 home and I'm starving, so then I just eat a 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.240 bunch of snack food. So first and foremost, I'd just 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.600 love to see what they're currently doing. And that's just 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.720 anybody can do that, any kids. Sometimes I'll I'll um, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.840 when I go into Devon's class, I taught a nutrition class. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.960 They'll ask me that, like, what's the best way to 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.800 be better about my nutrition? I'm like, well, first, see 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.440 what you're doing, take take notice, be mindful of your habits. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.680 Because a lot of kids are either skipping breakfast or 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.720 you know, they'll eat just whatever throughout the day and 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.240 then they come home at night, like you said, kind 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.200 of binge or just eat whatever. So first kind of 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.200 look at what they're currently doing, and then I can 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.360 easily go through and be like, Okay, well instead of 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.240 just eating a bunch of goldfish for a snack, you 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:52.600 can have yogurt and some foods. So yeah, and I 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.280 think it's more. I know we're focusing on you know, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.760 athletes and stuff like that, but I think children in general. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.320 I think the nutrition, Like I was this rewarding with donuts, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.480 and then there's there's you know, eating completely healthy here 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.840 and there, and you're getting to the supplement's point. But 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:08.640 it's like when I took my daughter to school when 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.560 she was in kindergarten. I was just we're sitting there, 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.600 she was coloring, and a friend of hers came up 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.040 to the table and I was like, oh, that's a 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.400 good morning, I said, you know, somehow the topic got 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.360 to us and how's your morning. You know, She's like, good, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.400 I had three doughnuts. That's like kindergartener had three doughnuts 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.080 before she went to school. My kids will come home 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.280 and they can't wait to tell me what their friends 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.960 lunches look like. They are like crazy, I have a 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.360 question for you. So, my my son plays travel baseball. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.960 So every other weekend, we're in a different city or 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:40.720 a different place, and there's anywhere between four to twelve 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.360 fields around this whole entire complex and and we're there 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.640 from eight am to three pm or all day long basically, 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.640 and there's one stand of snacks and foods in the 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:56.320 whole entire thing. And it's cheeseburgers, onion rings, French fries, burritos, dogs, nachos, 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.880 hot dogs, and it's you cannot get sell. And and 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.399 I almost feel like if you're kind of not an outcast, 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.199 but like if I brought my own cooler with like no, 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.200 come over here, and we're gonna sit over here, and 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.439 you're gonna have these these you know, nuts to snack 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.600 on to get you more protein while you know, in 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:22.560 between games, Like that's odd and unfortunately that's I would like, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.199 you know what, I would have no shame in that. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.520 I'd be like no, but I but I feel like 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.760 it's like, how do we as a whole get those 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:35.320 places to change? Or you know, because that's a question. 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.200 I mean, the fundamentals there are are everything's market driven. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.600 Everything comes down to economics. At the end of the day, 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.359 if there's not enough choice because the market created not 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.360 enough cheap because the fact of the matter is all 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:52.199 the choices actually exist, the economy determines what choices you 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.200 end up with ultimately at that one place. So fundamentally speaking, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.120 the general public wants to have a hot dog. That's 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.760 all there is to it. So you know, that's what 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.040 you're dealing with. If you want to go against that tide, 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:04.560 you have to sort of you need to bring your 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.520 own food. So is that something to change the culture? Essentially? 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.680 If that's if the culture wants a hot dog, that's 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.840 going to be the culture. But but if you were, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:15.840 if you I don't know if we can view our 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.680 whole foods or Thrive Markets. Let's use Thrive markets because 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:25.119 we love Thrive Markets. Why doesn't Thrive Markets sponsor a 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:30.000 huge sports baseball indoor thing and and have that be 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:35.720 their entire right, you know, instead of it's you know, 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.840 you gotta del taco, you got a burger, You've got 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.359 all these other places down the street, or just the 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.239 regular person making the cheeseburgers, But like, why wouldn't one 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:44.840 of those places be like, hey, you know what we're 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:46.480 We're going to have a healthy place where all these 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.600 kids are gonna play. I think it should be on 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.120 the advisory board to thrive. Remember I got my toilet 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.359 papers there. But there's a great irony there. I gotta 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.000 say with the to me, the obvious irony is this 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:03.600 the sports fan in the live sports fan visit going 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.000 to a sports event is going there to have a 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.320 beer and a hot dog. So you know, you're coming 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:14.159 in with with parental's parental advisory version of what you 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:15.960 want your kids to have and what options do you 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.800 want to have at the game. But it's changing. You're 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.960 starting to see some healthier stuff show up in But 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:27.800 I'll say that you're going you don't have to. What 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.720 I'm saying now is you don't. You can if you want, 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.760 but there is an option if you don't want to. 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.320 That's starting to come in. But let's say there isn't 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.399 an option. Christie, as a parent, what would you do? 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.879 Would you meal prep and bring something like for parents 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.160