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Speaker 1: news stories because we had a full show for today,
Speaker 1: and our guests that's coming up really deserves time and
Speaker 1: attention to unravel American the American justice system and injustice system.
Speaker 1: That's a perfect way to say so. The Mexico kidnapping.
Speaker 1: I just saw that Mexico has now most people know
Speaker 1: about this for individuals, one woman and three men got
Speaker 1: in the car, drove through South Carolina obviously to Texas,
Speaker 1: across the border into Mexico, and when they got on
Speaker 1: the other side, as soon as they got into Mexico,
Speaker 1: they were caught in the middle of a crossfire. There
Speaker 1: was some kind of shootout taking place, and the cartel
Speaker 1: pull stop them. Someone in there entourage was shot one
Speaker 1: of the guys, and then they made all of them
Speaker 1: get out of the event, put them in the back
Speaker 1: of a pickup chuck truck, kidnapped them, obviously killed another
Speaker 1: person that was in that group, and the finally the
Speaker 1: Mexican government found them. Of course, you know, they have
Speaker 1: their ears to the streets, where as we all know,
Speaker 1: within the Mexican government there are members of or closely
Speaker 1: aligned cartel members, and so they were able to find them,
Speaker 1: and then they returned to people who are who are
Speaker 1: the remaining survivors. But now they have arrested and detained
Speaker 1: five of those individuals that they feel, you know, are
Speaker 1: involved with this situation, that they know are involved, and
Speaker 1: they issued an apology to America and sent now for
Speaker 1: you know, extradition and prosecution these individuals to the States.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they sent them already, but they
Speaker 1: said they will, so that is what's happening in that case. Obviously,
Speaker 1: when we think about Chanquela Robinson, we want to see
Speaker 1: the same type of energy. And by the way, the
Speaker 1: Mexican government is saying that they're ready, that all they
Speaker 1: need is for us to send the first person, who
Speaker 1: we believe to be Dejean A. Jackson, send her to
Speaker 1: Mexico for prosecution. They've now changed the charge from femicide
Speaker 1: to homicide to make sure that it aligns with the
Speaker 1: American charges, so that if America decides that, you know what,
Speaker 1: we don't want to send them back. What we prefer
Speaker 1: to do is take jurisdiction and try the case here
Speaker 1: with the Mexico's support. Mexico wants. They're like, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do. Obviously, with a country that is it's
Speaker 1: not as rich in resources as America, they don't mind
Speaker 1: allowing America to use its resources to try this case.
Speaker 1: So it's it's up to us now, you know, it's
Speaker 1: up to the United States government to move forward. Just
Speaker 1: like we see swift action with these individuals, which we
Speaker 1: want to see that, hoping that we will see the same,
Speaker 1: you know, for Shanquala Robinson. Yes, man, we definitely need
Speaker 1: justice Rush and Quella Robinson. And it's just a lot
Speaker 1: going on in Mexico. A friend of mines man that
Speaker 1: I grew up with since like second grade, was murdered
Speaker 1: in Mexico last week. It was just and I just
Speaker 1: keep hearing these things. So Mexico. I don't know what
Speaker 1: y'all got going on over there, man, but you'll want
Speaker 1: to You're gonna have to tell you not man, because
Speaker 1: they are there taking them down out there. Man. But
Speaker 1: you know, the reality is if you look at um,
Speaker 1: you know, here in the US, people are being murdered also, right.
Speaker 1: It's just that Mexico is smaller, and it ends up
Speaker 1: being that it touches people that we know, right, or
Speaker 1: people that's close to somebody, you know, because it's so small.
Speaker 1: But in the US, every day the murder rates are up,
Speaker 1: all types of murder rates, not just you know, violence
Speaker 1: in communities, but racial violence, just all types domestic violence.
Speaker 1: It's all up. And so we're dealing with a violent society,
Speaker 1: a violent world. And until we do something about poverty
Speaker 1: and mental health and all those challenges. You're gonna see
Speaker 1: even more, and you know, I hate to say that,
Speaker 1: but I think we will. So last week, you and
Speaker 1: Attorney Angelo Pinto, the one of the four co founders
Speaker 1: of Until Freedom, attended a rally which was a big rally,
Speaker 1: a very spirited rally for a brother by the name
Speaker 1: of Naji Seabrooks, who was a violence interrupter in Patterson,
Speaker 1: New Jersey that was shot and killed by police. Now
Speaker 1: I'm told that police sat with him for at least
Speaker 1: two hours, or at least they were in the area.
Speaker 1: They knew he was having some type of crisis and breakdown,
Speaker 1: which by the way, is very possible for people who
Speaker 1: are doing this work. Oftentimes you find out all different
Speaker 1: types of reasons why people have been brought to this work,
Speaker 1: and once they get in it, that doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: the traumas that they've been dealing with go away. And
Speaker 1: so he was, you know, a violence interrupted working with
Speaker 1: the Patterson Collective, an organization out there doing good work,
Speaker 1: and there has so many violence and police accountability partners
Speaker 1: that we have organizations that work with this brother. They
Speaker 1: know and respect him and somewhere, you know, during this
Speaker 1: time that police were dealing with him. You know, after
Speaker 1: a certain amount of time, they say that he had
Speaker 1: a knife. This is what I heard through the grape vine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: allegedly that he had a knife and the officers shot him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, you maybe have some insight, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I never met the brother, but you know
Speaker 1: when I went out there and we were you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to help and try to bring some awareness
Speaker 1: and lend out voices out there with him that day,
Speaker 1: I met a lot of people, and the way they
Speaker 1: spoke of him is that he was really loved in
Speaker 1: his community, that he was one of those people who
Speaker 1: you can call on, you can trust. He has a
Speaker 1: large family. A lot of his family is actually in
Speaker 1: law enforcement, so a lot of people know him. He
Speaker 1: was well known in the community. And you know, he
Speaker 1: was having they said he was having some type of
Speaker 1: mental issue. And I heard that they was out there
Speaker 1: with him for about four hours, you know, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the violence interrupters said wanting to go in,
Speaker 1: and the police wouldn't allow them to deal with them
Speaker 1: himself inside and then you know, allegedly he ran out
Speaker 1: with a knife. You know, and I say this all
Speaker 1: the time, Man, I don't. I don't. I don't believe
Speaker 1: of a mental patient, somebody dealing with a mental breakdown,
Speaker 1: mental health with a knife should be killed. I believe
Speaker 1: that there has to be a strategy that has because
Speaker 1: I am not a paid police officer, I don't get
Speaker 1: paid to do this work. And me myself, I can
Speaker 1: disarm somebody with a name, I can, I believe, So me,
Speaker 1: just me by myself. I'm not care enough to try
Speaker 1: to do that before I killed, right, And and we
Speaker 1: keep seeing these same situations with police officers or shooting
Speaker 1: people with niles and then shooting it killed. You know,
Speaker 1: to me, it just it just doesn't make sense. It's
Speaker 1: not humane. You know, it violates your human rights. And
Speaker 1: you know this, this poor brother should still be here man,
Speaker 1: So my condoless to his family. You know, justice for Nagi.
Speaker 1: You know, they had a like you said, there was
Speaker 1: a big rally outside of the Patterson City Hall. Then
Speaker 1: while we're rallying, they had a meeting with the government
Speaker 1: issues inside the city hall. You know, I didn't get
Speaker 1: to see all those because they wouldn't allow most of
Speaker 1: us to go inside. They only allowed about fifty to
Speaker 1: sixty people to go in. But you know, we're still
Speaker 1: working with the Patterson Collective and all other organizations that's
Speaker 1: fighting to get justice for Nagi. So you know, we
Speaker 1: will keep you updated hopefully. You know, we still have demands.
Speaker 1: You know, I heard that the officers were put on
Speaker 1: they were suspended and you know, put on put on leave.
Speaker 1: And I also heard that they're trying to get the
Speaker 1: body cams. So we have demands. They want the body camera,
Speaker 1: they want the names of the officers, release those things.
Speaker 1: I still don't believe have been done yet. But right,
Speaker 1: that's right. We're here to support the Patterson community and
Speaker 1: the organizations there. M I. You know, I was saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I don't even have commentary for
Speaker 1: all of this anymore. It's just so much, you know.
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to a police chief one day
Speaker 1: and I was at you know, I was asking in
Speaker 1: a situation where mentally disturbed individual had a knife and
Speaker 1: was like running around wielding the knife, and I asked,
Speaker 1: what would you do here in this situation? He said,
Speaker 1: how would get out his way? I get out of
Speaker 1: his way. We would surround him, but get out his
Speaker 1: way and figure out a tactic for being able to
Speaker 1: take him down that doesn't include having to shoot him
Speaker 1: to day. And the thing is they have them. I've
Speaker 1: seen that. I've seen them do it for black people
Speaker 1: and white people, on all types of people. I can't
Speaker 1: see him and say only one group. I've seen them
Speaker 1: use that strategy. But you know they and you know
Speaker 1: what the bottom line is, when the police know who
Speaker 1: you are and they know they knew him right he's
Speaker 1: in the community, you can't see him and tell me
Speaker 1: nobody knew him. They did know him. When the police
Speaker 1: know you and these things happened, it begs the question
Speaker 1: whether or not they were glad or not glad. Let's
Speaker 1: not say that, but that you know you were taking
Speaker 1: out with intention. We don't know. Speaking of police, our
Speaker 1: brother Trade the Truth as we affectionately called Brow. Brow
Speaker 1: was traveling back to Houston last week when he was
Speaker 1: approached by the Narcotics Force Task Force at the airport
Speaker 1: and they harassed him, which he caught it all on video,
Speaker 1: and they went through his bag slightly, but I think
Speaker 1: at the point that they began to go through his
Speaker 1: bag with the video camera out, and also the way
Speaker 1: that Trade was communicating with them. They knew that they
Speaker 1: had overstepped. He said that first they threw a ball,
Speaker 1: like some kind of toy or something towards his bag
Speaker 1: to allow the dog to kind of go over this.
Speaker 1: So it's all a form of entrapment. They're trying to
Speaker 1: see whether he's bringing something back. They threw this ball,
Speaker 1: the dog goes over. Somehow, they say the dog gave
Speaker 1: them an indication that there may be something in the bag. Now,
Speaker 1: let me tell you why I think this is. Really
Speaker 1: it's an important conversation because I remember a few weeks
Speaker 1: ago when Gilly Gillian Walla were traveling and Gilly was
Speaker 1: pulled to the side and they went through all his
Speaker 1: stuff and accused him of potentially carrying drugs, at which
Speaker 1: he didn't have anything. So I'm wondering and would love
Speaker 1: to hear from people black folks particularly who are traveling.
Speaker 1: And it seems like a lot of black men who
Speaker 1: are traveling who looked like they probably have resources. Maybe
Speaker 1: they got on expensive clothes and or jury. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: just that they're known and you know, somehow, another the
Speaker 1: word gets out based upon the manifesto. The manifesto which
Speaker 1: is the flight that they know who's on the plane, right,
Speaker 1: maybe somehow that's getting out and that's why these narcotics
Speaker 1: agents are meeting our people at the airport. So I
Speaker 1: just want to hear from folks who are listening if
Speaker 1: this is something that you know about that's happening, Because
Speaker 1: if it happens to Gilly and then it's and then
Speaker 1: now we see it happening to trade. You know, where
Speaker 1: there's smoke, there's fire, So it seems to me that
Speaker 1: there's potentially more than what we know happening to our
Speaker 1: people who are traveling. Traveling has become a very it
Speaker 1: probably always been has been this way, but it's become
Speaker 1: really a lot of like bullshit, a lot of racism
Speaker 1: and throwing people off planes, and then you got crazy
Speaker 1: people on planes doing wild shit. It's a lot going
Speaker 1: on in the air I mean, it's a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: we we we've experienced you know that firsthand, so we
Speaker 1: know all about that. And the fact that the way
Speaker 1: that we travel, we are constantly you know, face with
Speaker 1: little things. You know, we faced like you were talking
Speaker 1: about the woman who was talking about your hair and
Speaker 1: that was a thing for her. You know, this this
Speaker 1: Asian woman who like it was very very weird, you know,
Speaker 1: and we always and then you meet people who just
Speaker 1: got bad attitudes. You know, they don't they don't really
Speaker 1: want to be there. They don't think you should be there,
Speaker 1: you know, especially in you in first class, a lot
Speaker 1: of them look at you a certain way. But then
Speaker 1: there are some good ones. Oh great, we need great
Speaker 1: flight attendants. I have to say that, especially on Delta,
Speaker 1: I have met amazing flight attendants. And even though I
Speaker 1: do not support any of what has happened from us
Speaker 1: to uh Reverend Barber who had an issue on American airlines.
Speaker 1: Our sister I venture a Gray, she had an issue
Speaker 1: on American airlines. And now we know Tyler Quale, we
Speaker 1: know Shicari Richardson, we know Odell Beckham. I mean, the
Speaker 1: list goes the people who have dealt with discrimination what
Speaker 1: we believe to be discrimination on American airlines. So I
Speaker 1: don't support that at all, but I will say that
Speaker 1: now there are many I've met many flight attendants, gay agents,
Speaker 1: ticket agents and you know, and others who work for
Speaker 1: American airlines and all the airlines that are really good people.
Speaker 1: They're super cool. But there are just like in any
Speaker 1: other industry, there are bad apples. There are people. There
Speaker 1: are people who do wrong. There are people who are racist,
Speaker 1: There are people who are disrespectful. They are people who
Speaker 1: hate their job, they hate their husband, they hate their lives,
Speaker 1: they hate everything about themselves, and they bring it to
Speaker 1: work and they infringe upon other people because they know
Speaker 1: that the power to either throw someone off the plane,
Speaker 1: call the police on people, or just do whatever they
Speaker 1: want to do to inconvenience you and to set you up.
Speaker 1: They know they have the power to do that. And
Speaker 1: so yes, there has to be a balance, because I
Speaker 1: just saw all the other day a man tried to
Speaker 1: stab a flight attendant, and you know, while he was
Speaker 1: trying to open the exit door, he was clearly unstable.
Speaker 1: You could hear it in the ranting and the things
Speaker 1: that he was saying. He was unstable. However, you still,
Speaker 1: even when balancing those types of things, you cannot um
Speaker 1: lean on discrimination. And also you cannot allow people to
Speaker 1: hide behind those incidents where they are hiding their races
Speaker 1: and their sexism and whatever, and just the fact that
Speaker 1: they just can't believe that some of us have the
Speaker 1: resources to fly, have the resources to be in first class.
Speaker 1: So no, it's some bullshit. That's how I shout out
Speaker 1: to Trade, you know, and Trades one of the most humblest, coolest,
Speaker 1: quietest guys. When you when you piss him off, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a whole different trade man. And he was. He
Speaker 1: was very he was very um calm. He asked the
Speaker 1: questions that he needed to ask, and that's when they
Speaker 1: I think they realized they fucked up because he was
Speaker 1: He didn't overreact, he didn't give them no reason to say.
Speaker 1: He just wanted them to know that he knew that
Speaker 1: they was doing some bullshit. So you know, hopefully you know,
Speaker 1: Trade gets some some get some type of goal closure
Speaker 1: behind that told him to reach out, you know, right
Speaker 1: these people up. Let them know that you've been profiled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. He was profiled. He was definitely profiled man.
Speaker 1: And I would love to hear from some white folks
Speaker 1: if people are out there like, oh, no, you know
Speaker 1: my boss and my sons, so they're white people, that
Speaker 1: this happens to them, you know, because I'm starting to
Speaker 1: see this a little bit of a trend. And it's
Speaker 1: not the first time that I think it happened to Gillie.
Speaker 1: So he's two or three times. Yeah, he smoked weed.
Speaker 1: Often trade doesn't at all, but Gilli smokes weeds, so
Speaker 1: the weed and NY on him. But no, that's not
Speaker 1: that's not that's that's not how things should go. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course, if they feel something that's in your bag.
Speaker 1: You know, we're not saying that they shouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to pull people to the side. But I've smelt all
Speaker 1: kinds of things on people. I have had situations where
Speaker 1: I'm standing in line with a white person or a
Speaker 1: white woman. Actually it happened to me one day. And
Speaker 1: by the way, not just drugs. I saw a white
Speaker 1: woman in the airport smack pissy drunk. Yeah, steal that
Speaker 1: on the flight. But I know black people that get
Speaker 1: escorted from away from the He was just tired, kicked
Speaker 1: him out. I'm just saying and everything. No, it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be about race, but certainly we need to.
Speaker 1: We need some answers on what it's about so we
Speaker 1: can understand. So for my thought of the day today,
Speaker 1: I want to talk quickly about the report that has
Speaker 1: come down in Louisville, Kentucky regarding what they found, um,
Speaker 1: you know, in relation to the police department there, all
Speaker 1: the civil rights violations that the Department of Justice has
Speaker 1: found in Kentucky and in Louisville, specifically LMPD, the Louisville
Speaker 1: Metro Police Department, which we lived under for four months
Speaker 1: and watched them. We watched them commit crimes, we watched
Speaker 1: their corruption, we watched them, I mean just everything we watched.
Speaker 1: We watched them, and their behavior was so much aligned
Speaker 1: with the reason why we were there in the first place,
Speaker 1: because of Brianna Taylor and then David mccabee, and there's
Speaker 1: been so many others where we know for sure that
Speaker 1: the Louisville Metro Police Department has engaged in illegal practices
Speaker 1: that violates the rights, the civil rights and yeah, the
Speaker 1: civil and human rights of its citizens. And it's a
Speaker 1: lot to be said about the report. People should check
Speaker 1: it out. We're so far past discussing it and deliberating
Speaker 1: over it because we been saying it. We've been saying
Speaker 1: that people needed to look into what's happening there. And
Speaker 1: because we moved to Kentucky and until Freedom along with
Speaker 1: all our partners and others and the movement the local community,
Speaker 1: because of the summer of unrest, it forced the federal
Speaker 1: government to have to look at Louisville. They weren't gonna
Speaker 1: do it. So when people talk about old protesting doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything and it doesn't matter, it is exactly because
Speaker 1: of the protest movement of twenty twenty that we are
Speaker 1: able to see violation or charges first of all against officers,
Speaker 1: and now violations being brought to the forefront in terms
Speaker 1: of what they have done to the citizens there. So
Speaker 1: in my thought of the day, here's what I want
Speaker 1: to say. I'm trying to figure out what happens when
Speaker 1: a police department. And I get it, the Consent Decree
Speaker 1: has now come down where the federal government has reforms
Speaker 1: that they are now saying to be addressed by the
Speaker 1: Louisville Metro Police Department, and if not, they have remedies
Speaker 1: and measures that they will take to monitor and not
Speaker 1: just monitor and or chastise, punish or whatever. So I
Speaker 1: get it. I understand that. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: that when the citizens are in danger today because the
Speaker 1: same police or you don't just tell them, oh, we
Speaker 1: have all of these findings and they just stop doing
Speaker 1: the bullshit. That is not how it works. By the way, today,
Speaker 1: the FOP, the Fraternal Order of Police and the fucking
Speaker 1: gangs that exist within law enforcement in this country. They
Speaker 1: are going crazy about the report that came out from
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. They're going crazy, they are. It's
Speaker 1: racist shit going on on Twitter, which I don't go
Speaker 1: in there, but I've been sent several screenshots. People are
Speaker 1: starting to get death threats, all the shit that happens
Speaker 1: every time they are held accountable. So you think that
Speaker 1: they're going back to work and they're just gonna do
Speaker 1: the right thing. No, they're waiting for the ship to
Speaker 1: pass where they can get away with it like they
Speaker 1: always do. So the question is, what the fuck do
Speaker 1: we do when you know people's lives are in danger today?
Speaker 1: Do you it needs to be some damn receivership. They
Speaker 1: should be shut down, ain't no damn police department. It's
Speaker 1: a game. The reality of the situation though, to me,
Speaker 1: because is that most systems of police run the same
Speaker 1: way that LMPD does. That's the fact nobody is doing
Speaker 1: the research right. Like you said, we had to go
Speaker 1: there through this whole summer unrest, and we had to
Speaker 1: shine a light along with a lot of the activists
Speaker 1: in Louisville alongside of them who were protesting out there,
Speaker 1: who were getting arrested, who were being abused, who when
Speaker 1: they forced people to look into what was going on Louisville.
Speaker 1: But who is looking into all the other countries, I
Speaker 1: mean all the other cities and states around the nation
Speaker 1: that are doing the same exact thing. So what I
Speaker 1: suggest that now that we see what's going on in Louisville,
Speaker 1: after people have been telling you, look into a lot
Speaker 1: of all these other police and they have them. I
Speaker 1: have to give Kristen Clark, the head of the Civil
Speaker 1: Rights Division for the Department of Justice, a black woman
Speaker 1: who comes out of the movement. She is a fair person.
Speaker 1: She's not some every ship. Sometimes I'm like, hey, what's
Speaker 1: going on with such a such case, She's like, there's
Speaker 1: no there there, like I don't see it, right, So
Speaker 1: she's not somebody that's in there like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just charge any and everybody. Sometimes they say no. Sometimes
Speaker 1: their department is not even willing. It's certain I want
Speaker 1: them that, I want them to charge all the right
Speaker 1: and so they're not able to do that. They're not
Speaker 1: even that's not who they are. They're fair or she
Speaker 1: is fair, and her department that she is leading is
Speaker 1: attempting to be fair. So truth is truth. Facts are facts.
Speaker 1: If you look at the report of what it says
Speaker 1: about the things they found, you read somebody, And if
Speaker 1: you take that report and put it next to what
Speaker 1: happened to Brianna Taylor entering someone's home without knocking on
Speaker 1: the door and properly informing you know who you are,
Speaker 1: using falsified um warrants, all types of ship that's in
Speaker 1: that report is exactly what happened to Brianna Taylor. So
Speaker 1: it's not us saying it. And so what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is Department of Justice has done it in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: They they have looked into the Kansas City, Kansas Police Department,
Speaker 1: where we know there was an officer that was there raping, harassing,
Speaker 1: and and and and and violating women and their families
Speaker 1: when they refused to stop giving him sex or whatever
Speaker 1: they wanted. The department knew about it, didn't do anything,
Speaker 1: and there's been other violations, so they looked into that
Speaker 1: that if that is, you know, they're they're also we
Speaker 1: got a lot more to do. So right, I'm ployed
Speaker 1: the process and the progress, but keep on going, rescue.
Speaker 1: There's so much work to be done, like you said,
Speaker 1: and it's sad because the next guest that we have
Speaker 1: coming up is a part of the same damn injustice
Speaker 1: operation that happens across this country. So let's bring on
Speaker 1: our guests. So, you know, as we were just saying,
Speaker 1: um my son, we're being joined by a gentleman and
Speaker 1: his mentor, actually, um you know, who knows all too
Speaker 1: well about the system and how we can easily our
Speaker 1: people easily get caught up in the system, and just
Speaker 1: all the pitfalls and things that he experienced fighting against
Speaker 1: false accusations of raping. This is a mere reap who
Speaker 1: was a student at Ohio State University, and he knows
Speaker 1: all too well about the system of injustice and just
Speaker 1: how easy it is to get caught up and the
Speaker 1: difficulties of fighting when you're in this system. His mentor,
Speaker 1: Rashaun Walton, who is also a community leader, is joining
Speaker 1: as well, and we're going to talk about what took
Speaker 1: place in February or twenty twenty and what it's been
Speaker 1: like since a Mirror was falsely accused of rape. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot, I'm sure a Mirror, and we'd love
Speaker 1: to hear from you today. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining street politicians. My son, you want to add something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, man, you know, we're thankful
Speaker 1: that you know that you were, you know, exonerated of
Speaker 1: these false accusations, you know, being for being formally incarcerated,
Speaker 1: enforced the accused of a crime. And I actually spent
Speaker 1: seven years for a crime that I never committed. So
Speaker 1: I know all how all too well about how this
Speaker 1: justice or injustice system as we say, work. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you know you were able to get
Speaker 1: to the right proper justice that you deserved. And we
Speaker 1: just want to be able to highlight you and talk
Speaker 1: about your process and just so people out there can
Speaker 1: understand just how easy it is for something like this
Speaker 1: to have. So. So you know, um, you were football
Speaker 1: player at Ohio State h and how old were you?
Speaker 1: So I committed there on my eighteen birthday, So I
Speaker 1: was eighteen when I came in. I did three seasons
Speaker 1: with Ohio State and then my season going into my
Speaker 1: senior year, you know, I was got to be a
Speaker 1: team captain everything and get on the field, be a
Speaker 1: true starter. That's when the order false accusation came about.
Speaker 1: So I was about I want to say twenty two
Speaker 1: story of what happened going into my senior year. Um,
Speaker 1: I was getting ready, was in a spring time and
Speaker 1: then I had to encounter with a female and then
Speaker 1: I want to say about a week later, I got
Speaker 1: a call from a detective and just tell me about
Speaker 1: what I was being like, Uh, someone was saying that
Speaker 1: I did which was grape which I knew with foss.
Speaker 1: But uh, as we've seen, I had to go all
Speaker 1: the way to trial with it, um and fight for
Speaker 1: my life about it just over someone uh saying that
Speaker 1: that I did something which obviously didn't. So you know,
Speaker 1: first of all, once again, I just want to say
Speaker 1: I apologize because you know, you don't get that time back,
Speaker 1: you don't get the accusation and those Unfortunately we live
Speaker 1: in a society like when you when you tagged with something,
Speaker 1: even afterwards, there's a process, even after you exonerate it
Speaker 1: and you prove that you said, there's a process of
Speaker 1: people that still just don't want to believe you. You know,
Speaker 1: very good friends with the exonerated five, you know, they're
Speaker 1: real good friends of mine, and knowing their process and
Speaker 1: what they had to do to just get their life back.
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's still an upfield batter. You
Speaker 1: were a budding um football player, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like you said you were on your way to be
Speaker 1: in the captain of the team. You're about to get
Speaker 1: this true startup position, and then this allocated. How what
Speaker 1: was the mind state that you had when when this happened?
Speaker 1: Like this, tell me explains to me, like how you
Speaker 1: must have were feeling when you've heard So when I
Speaker 1: first heard about it, like, no, I can't. I didn't
Speaker 1: believe it. I'm like, this can't be Like, no, I
Speaker 1: know it didn't happen, So I'm like, no, this didn't.
Speaker 1: So I didn't think it wasn't going as far as
Speaker 1: it did. Honestly, I thought, you know, it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a he say, she's saying, we was gonna figure
Speaker 1: it out through that way. I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: gonna get as far as it did. So when it
Speaker 1: first happened, I was I was just sold, just this
Speaker 1: can't be true. And the second thing that I asked
Speaker 1: myself and I was just wondering, was was just why,
Speaker 1: like why would someone project yourself to lie and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, just ruin everything for another human being. That
Speaker 1: was my big things was why I lie? Like? Why lie?
Speaker 1: And how did the school initially treat you? All? Right?
Speaker 1: Did they ever give you a fair chance at you know,
Speaker 1: fighting for yourself or did you feel automatically that just
Speaker 1: because the accusation was made that you were team? So
Speaker 1: at first, when we first got the call, I was
Speaker 1: told nothing criminally was gonna happen, like, no charges criminally.
Speaker 1: I just had to deal with Title nine at school.
Speaker 1: So that was at first. But then when we got
Speaker 1: taught that um, that something criminally would be happening, at
Speaker 1: that point, Um, we turned ourselves in And then from
Speaker 1: there I just felt like it was just us against
Speaker 1: everybody else, honestly, right because it was you and another
Speaker 1: young man Johs Scene went right okay, so he was
Speaker 1: he was also, Um, when you say we what you
Speaker 1: are experience, I went through this process together, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure your family was involved. Like who would you say
Speaker 1: was the biggest advocate that you had with you throughout
Speaker 1: this process? My dad? But during the process, um, he
Speaker 1: did pass away um and twenty twenty h colding cancer.
Speaker 1: But definitely when it first happened, it was my dad.
Speaker 1: That's why I was looking to for answers, you know,
Speaker 1: for anything, I can go to my dad. He was
Speaker 1: number one supporter right when it's well, So immediately so
Speaker 1: after you would charge, you were suspended in definitely from
Speaker 1: the team let go right right? Uh yeah, by time
Speaker 1: I was able to call my dad just to let
Speaker 1: them know that I was good. This is my call.
Speaker 1: They was already posted all over social media already. So
Speaker 1: by time I came out, I want to say, a boy,
Speaker 1: then hour after it was already I was being charged
Speaker 1: with this and to the world I was guilty. So
Speaker 1: that's how it just came about. It's so important that
Speaker 1: young guys who are on college campuses, even on their
Speaker 1: jobs and other entitements, that they hear your story. Because
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you right, nice looking young man, you know, look,
Speaker 1: you look like a very respectable young man. This happens
Speaker 1: to you, and it's like where do you go? Like
Speaker 1: what do you do? And what's the lesson? So we're
Speaker 1: like bumping over each other trying to ask questions. But
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say is that you were talking
Speaker 1: about people who, uh you know, obviously your father, the
Speaker 1: rest and PC of Dad, our condolences that you want
Speaker 1: to dad in the missis I can't imagine that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, your father so proud of you up until
Speaker 1: this point. I'm sure he still was proud of you,
Speaker 1: but to know that he died with this hanging over
Speaker 1: your head has to be probably just one of the
Speaker 1: worst feelings ever. Um. So. But but then Rashawn is
Speaker 1: in your life as well, mister, so tell us about that, Like,
Speaker 1: how how did this relationship come about? And I already
Speaker 1: see he's your your big dog protector here, so I
Speaker 1: harp on it. So my dad and a Mirror's dad
Speaker 1: grew up with each other, UM, in Cincinnati, So that's
Speaker 1: their original connection. So his dad was always at my
Speaker 1: grandmother's um house growing up and UM, you know, so
Speaker 1: they grew up with each other, so that connection was
Speaker 1: always there. UM. And then you know, just growing up,
Speaker 1: I always looked up to his dad, UM, you know,
Speaker 1: for um, just as a mentor. UM. You know, I
Speaker 1: can go to his dad for anything pertaining to anything,
Speaker 1: if it's you know, sports, um, women, college, UM, just
Speaker 1: anything sound advice wise. UM. I could always go to
Speaker 1: um a Mirror's father. UM. So that's how that that
Speaker 1: got that connection kind of um, you know, was rocking
Speaker 1: and rolling, and you know he used to always I
Speaker 1: used to ride with a mirror's dad um to Ohio
Speaker 1: State football games to watch a mirror um as well. UM.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty much the relationship. UM. And that's pretty
Speaker 1: much how we how we got tight and got close.
Speaker 1: You know. That's so right and farther that, um, because
Speaker 1: that was like, you know, the foundation. But I feel
Speaker 1: like during this time I wanted to go stay with
Speaker 1: him um at La to go work out, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He opened up his home to me,
Speaker 1: Uh had a room. He trained me for free, you know,
Speaker 1: to get me right, to keep me going on the
Speaker 1: right path. So I feel like that's when we really,
Speaker 1: me and him start building our own relationship outside of
Speaker 1: him and my dad, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's dope that you have people, you know, somebody that
Speaker 1: you can bond with, you know, in times of you know,
Speaker 1: you need people when you're going through stuff. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of people around when everything is good. Right when
Speaker 1: you was good, you was just start football player, you
Speaker 1: had all everybody was calling. Everybody wanted this, but I
Speaker 1: thought you got a lot A lot less people started
Speaker 1: calling when you was going through something. So you know,
Speaker 1: shout out to y'all the connection that you guys built
Speaker 1: during your time of you know, trus trials and tribulations. Um.
Speaker 1: But so what so how did this ultimately come to?
Speaker 1: And so you went through this process for how long?
Speaker 1: Three years? Two years? Like how long years? Uh? Went
Speaker 1: on for three years. So it was motions and the
Speaker 1: putting this motion, they putting it off. Then COVID came
Speaker 1: probably pushed you. You you're having one court date every
Speaker 1: year or something like that, and I know you just
Speaker 1: wanted you just really just wanted like to get your
Speaker 1: name clear. You know you're going through this. You know
Speaker 1: you're a football player, You got aspirations. So what was
Speaker 1: what ultimately led to you being exonerated, to you being
Speaker 1: you know, being felt not guilty. What was that process?
Speaker 1: So we went to trial, to trial lasted um three days. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then so on that third day they end up coming
Speaker 1: with a non guilty verdict. And I know they was
Speaker 1: trying to get you to cop ut, like just cop out.
Speaker 1: So I took a polygraph first and so uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to let my lawyer know who he was representing and
Speaker 1: just you know, clear up out the foggy spaces and
Speaker 1: everybody head uh, you know, So I took a polygraph
Speaker 1: past that and then so after that, I told my lawyer,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking no. Please, don't come to me about
Speaker 1: a please, bill is I'm not taking it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go every far they want to go with this, and
Speaker 1: that's how we're gonna figure it out. So you took
Speaker 1: the polygraph so the lawyer would know and have full
Speaker 1: confidence to fight hard for you because you didn't have
Speaker 1: anything to hie. So and what was the one thing
Speaker 1: or maybe it was more than one thing that you
Speaker 1: would say help to exonerate you, or the truth, honestly,
Speaker 1: the truth, getting up on that standing, telling my side
Speaker 1: of it and let them geors hear the truth come out.
Speaker 1: You know, well we all know is somebody you might
Speaker 1: be a good lie, but your stories just don't add up.
Speaker 1: It's just hard to be like, that's the truthful person.
Speaker 1: But when you hear somebody that tells the truth and
Speaker 1: said the truth three years ago and it's still the
Speaker 1: same thing that was said, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I feel like you just feel that and you know
Speaker 1: when somebody else being real with you. So I heard
Speaker 1: that through the process of this engagement that you had
Speaker 1: with the female, that you have got her to give consent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was something that we were talking at school.
Speaker 1: We have multiple meetings about this called title nine. So
Speaker 1: when we hear title nine, we automatically in our head
Speaker 1: we call it like sound bites, just respect women. So
Speaker 1: we hear title nine, Respect women. So we have people
Speaker 1: come in and tell us and how to deal with
Speaker 1: these situations, and one of them was making sure that
Speaker 1: everything was consentual. You get a video just asking was
Speaker 1: everything consential? Make sure you get it after you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's things like that. So that's what
Speaker 1: that video, uh was, I mean, that's that's a that's
Speaker 1: a lesson. You know, your boys are engaging especially you know,
Speaker 1: they see you as a meal ticket, they see you
Speaker 1: as you know, a successful you know, the prospect to
Speaker 1: go to the NFL, and these people are trying to
Speaker 1: get get in your pockets man, and your career. So
Speaker 1: that was very smart. You know, shout out to the
Speaker 1: coaches whoever advised you that this is you know, I
Speaker 1: advised a lot of these young boys and they think
Speaker 1: it's a joke. Man. Sometimes you gotta get you signed
Speaker 1: a contract, like like you, you might need to get
Speaker 1: your finger and all types of stuff. I'll say this though,
Speaker 1: the taking step further though, just the avoid the situation
Speaker 1: and me personally, I don't think we should even put
Speaker 1: ourselves in a situation to where we think that we
Speaker 1: would need that. You know what I mean if that
Speaker 1: makes sense, Like, Okay, I'm dealing with this person, I
Speaker 1: really need to get a consent video to make me
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. You should be already more comfortable with the
Speaker 1: person or the individual. That's the step I would say
Speaker 1: from that on, Uh, we're taking a little pushback. I'll
Speaker 1: give to that. You really never know who's who, right, No,
Speaker 1: you don't. You know, you don't. You don't, And that's
Speaker 1: the that's the best scam artists make you feel like
Speaker 1: you don't need nothing from them. They know they're giving
Speaker 1: you things. They're making you feel comfortable. Now, we won't
Speaker 1: need nothing. I'm good, duh. They show when you love.
Speaker 1: They're doing all of these things, but they already have
Speaker 1: a plan. So you can never get to come. Especially
Speaker 1: when you're in a position of power and success, you
Speaker 1: never know who's out there trying to get you. Man careful,
Speaker 1: So I'm you know, I'm really glad that you were
Speaker 1: able to overcome this situation. But what I want to
Speaker 1: know is, so now you're exonerating you knowe, what what
Speaker 1: are your plans for football? What is the what are
Speaker 1: you trying to do or is it something that you
Speaker 1: love of you? Okay? So what are the point you're
Speaker 1: trying to do at this point? So at this point,
Speaker 1: we're in the process of finding a different university or
Speaker 1: to commit tool so I can get my degree and
Speaker 1: also finish, you know, my college career, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna take the next step and going to the NFL
Speaker 1: after that. So that's a plan right there, he said,
Speaker 1: going to the NFL. They ain't know. Listen, We're going
Speaker 1: to the NFL. Many promise is the key? You no right?
Speaker 1: If you got to do it for your dad, Richand
Speaker 1: let me ask you, what have you learned throughout this
Speaker 1: process and now as a community leader and as a mentor,
Speaker 1: what are some of the other things outside of just
Speaker 1: the consent piece that you are, um, you know, talking
Speaker 1: the young men that you work with through Yeah, the
Speaker 1: number one thing is just tell the truth. So um
Speaker 1: in the mirrors case, the story he told day one
Speaker 1: was the same story that he told three years later. Understand, Um,
Speaker 1: So always tell the truth. Is it's easy to remember
Speaker 1: the truth. Um, Like we always say this the truth.
Speaker 1: So I set you free and that's what happened here. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's what I tell everyone. Just tell the truth. Um,
Speaker 1: you know in today's language, just keep it one hundred.
Speaker 1: Just keep it one hundred with everybody. Um. And typically
Speaker 1: that will eventually get you out of out of every
Speaker 1: any situation. Um. Typically that's what I say. And I
Speaker 1: know every everybody, you know, situation is different in every case,
Speaker 1: it's different. Um. But uh, it's a lot of people
Speaker 1: um that have you know, a lot of themselves and
Speaker 1: taken a plea deal and um, you know said that
Speaker 1: they did some stuff that they didn't even do just
Speaker 1: to get a lighter sentence or get observed, or just
Speaker 1: to be able to go home. Um. And it's it's
Speaker 1: things like that that you can never get back. Once
Speaker 1: you say that you did something, that's forever going to
Speaker 1: be saying that you did something. That's a fact. And
Speaker 1: the last question I have on that is you're right,
Speaker 1: tell the truth. And like you said, typically because in
Speaker 1: a lot in some situations, people tell the truth and
Speaker 1: that still is not enough. But in terms of behavioral
Speaker 1: stuff like how are you informing you know, young men,
Speaker 1: especially people with such promising careers that you know their target,
Speaker 1: what are you saying to them about their own personal choices? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to choose I know it's not easy
Speaker 1: to do this, but trying to choose the right type
Speaker 1: of people. And when you are engaging in relationships, like
Speaker 1: what's some of those conversations. If there's a young person
Speaker 1: that's listening today, you know, what would you want to
Speaker 1: say to them? And I'll ask both of you that
Speaker 1: as a closing question. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot, especially when it's you know, the relationship
Speaker 1: type of thing or sexual encounter or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But um, the number one thing for a lot of
Speaker 1: the premier athletes is you have to protect your brand.
Speaker 1: Sou for a mirror, he's a he's a humble kid,
Speaker 1: m but he was headed to the NFL. UM if
Speaker 1: you do the research or cornerbacks coming from Ohio State, uh,
Speaker 1: it's first round pick, after first round pick, after first
Speaker 1: round pick, after first round pick, first round picks, it's
Speaker 1: automatic millionaires, generational wealth. Um so it's just little things
Speaker 1: like that. For that, I tell kids, protect your brand
Speaker 1: because once you know, and it's a lot of times
Speaker 1: you can't even control what false accusation, but control the controllables.
Speaker 1: Control as much as you can. M. The number one
Speaker 1: thing is protect a brand because that's what people are
Speaker 1: always going to remember. UM. And protect your name, like
Speaker 1: the REEP name in Cincinnati, Ohio means a lot like
Speaker 1: a lot of people know is that a lot of people?
Speaker 1: His dad touched a lot of people and a lot
Speaker 1: of different aspects mentored a lot of people, include myself.
Speaker 1: So always make sure that your name gets cleared, protect
Speaker 1: your brand, and protect yourself. I mean, what would you say,
Speaker 1: only thing I probably added? Just building the right corner,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I have those people that
Speaker 1: tell you know, not everybody that says yes, it is
Speaker 1: not really you know what I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: people to say yeah that is cool. Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 1: Have somebody to tell you slow down, make sure you
Speaker 1: do this, you're do that, No that's not cool, let's
Speaker 1: go you feel you know what I mean? Just somebody
Speaker 1: they're not just saying yes all the time, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, M yeah, you got to diversify your people. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you gotta have you can't have too many yes men
Speaker 1: around you. Oh not yes you to death man. Literally
Speaker 1: really well, I just want to say thank you man
Speaker 1: once again. I'm happy that you e generated. You know,
Speaker 1: you know my prayers, and I know I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: you in the NFL. Man, I know I'm to see
Speaker 1: you there soon. And then you on your journey. Man,
Speaker 1: you know, continue on doing what you were born to do.
Speaker 1: Make your father proud, you know, Rayshawn, you know you're
Speaker 1: you're like, uh what you call a guardian angel man.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody needs somebody like that that believes in them,
Speaker 1: that stands with him in times when it's tough. Man.
Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of anybody. Like I said,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to be there when it's good. You know.
Speaker 1: So now this is this is this is like sometimes God,
Speaker 1: God does things for a reason. It clears people from
Speaker 1: around you because you took with you that didn't even
Speaker 1: deserve to go there with you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: God got you exactly. Well, who you know who is
Speaker 1: gonna be there when the chips is down? So they're
Speaker 1: gonna be there when the chips is coming in too,
Speaker 1: so you know, always see everything. You gotta always see
Speaker 1: the blessing and everything manure you see the blessing. So
Speaker 1: you know, my mom, keep doing what you're doing. You know,
Speaker 1: I wish you the best. I know you're gonna make
Speaker 1: it where you gotta go. Man, and number of appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that, Appreciate y'all. Thank you. Shout out to Mere
Speaker 1: Reap and Ray Shawn went. You know, look up for me.
Speaker 1: If you don't know about the man story, he was
Speaker 1: definitely one of the best, you know, definitely headed to
Speaker 1: the NFL, and these folk accusations slowed them down. They
Speaker 1: didn't stop him. As you can hear his voice and
Speaker 1: you hear his energy. He's definitely motivated to be successful
Speaker 1: and continue on along his successful path. But he learned
Speaker 1: a lot of lessons man. And you know, being falsely
Speaker 1: accused and being in car strac I know those lessons.
Speaker 1: There were so many people around you when you was
Speaker 1: winning and things was good. You you the top, you know,
Speaker 1: I was the top rapper, young, up and coming. There
Speaker 1: so many people then when those when those sales closed,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was just me, you know, And
Speaker 1: and there's only a few people that are really gonna
Speaker 1: stand tall. So you know, I wish him the best.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Ray Shawn because when you have somebody
Speaker 1: like that who believe he's in you, that works with
Speaker 1: you to uphold you and give you that energy because
Speaker 1: three years going through that, watch your whole life, your
Speaker 1: senior year, you're about to be the captain of your
Speaker 1: team and you're heading to the NFL, and then it's
Speaker 1: right here completely derails you. And all the people the
Speaker 1: team don't cut you. You know, people don't distance themselves
Speaker 1: because they already believe you guilty, you know, before anything.
Speaker 1: And then there's this one or two people around you
Speaker 1: that support you and you know and lift you up.
Speaker 1: So shout out to to Ray Sean Foot what he's done.
Speaker 1: And the mayor once again, I know he's gonna be
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Man, get us some tickets. I missed
Speaker 1: that mayor at me. We're gonna get a couple to
Speaker 1: give me the tickets first. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's all right, I'm watching on the TV on the
Speaker 1: TV on the team, watch it on the TV. So
Speaker 1: you know that brings me to my I don't get it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a lot of talk, and I've
Speaker 1: been having debates back and forth and since the beginning,
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't said anything a lot lately. But
Speaker 1: you know, last week Chris Rock came out with his
Speaker 1: special on Netflix, you know, and he addressed the whole
Speaker 1: Will Smith and Jada Pinkett situation, and and and in
Speaker 1: my in my in my opinion, I just thought it
Speaker 1: was distasteful. I didn't because you know, it's been a
Speaker 1: year you didn't say anything, and and I wanted you
Speaker 1: to address it. Now we do. I figured you would
Speaker 1: address it, but to continue on the same path. We'll
Speaker 1: calling Jada bitches right and continue on. You know, you
Speaker 1: had you had a disagreement with a man, right, a
Speaker 1: man and in whatever disagreement, how whatever that was handled,
Speaker 1: you and that man should continue to handle it. I
Speaker 1: think for you to continue to use your voice, and
Speaker 1: this is what it was based on it the disagreement.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people just continue to make
Speaker 1: it this g I Jane joke, you know, and me
Speaker 1: being somebody who pays attention and just been studying this,
Speaker 1: knew that it was before that. You know, it's been
Speaker 1: years of things, but I know it was mainly the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen you know, Oscar's Awards and what he said
Speaker 1: at that Oscar Awards where Jada had called for protests
Speaker 1: other oscars, you know, and him just diminishing their protests,
Speaker 1: getting on that stage in front of these white people
Speaker 1: and saying that, you know, their boycott was pretty much
Speaker 1: just bullshit and she didn't even have the right or
Speaker 1: she was basically just calling her nobody like her. You
Speaker 1: can't call nor boycott you nobody, you know, so I can.
Speaker 1: I can sympathize with be at home after I've sacrifice
Speaker 1: and saying I'm a fight for it, inclusion for black
Speaker 1: people because I know we're not getting it. And to
Speaker 1: see somebody that I thought was a friend to me
Speaker 1: and my family get on TV and diminish me and
Speaker 1: disrespect me on TV. That wouldn't have felt right to me.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't felt good to me, you know, So I
Speaker 1: I identified with that. And then to come on and
Speaker 1: after all of those things, and knowing that we no
Speaker 1: longer as speaking, we don't have any relationship or anything,
Speaker 1: for you to utilize the same platform to say something
Speaker 1: else about me, it just was tasting. And now again
Speaker 1: after you know, the encounter, you come back and you're
Speaker 1: still hopping on this woman. And I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't see the mainly shit about that, Like I just
Speaker 1: I don't get right. And what I really don't get
Speaker 1: it's how people don't get that disrespect is like I
Speaker 1: put a post up that said, when you don't take
Speaker 1: disrespect off the table, then you leave violence on the table. Everybody. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating for violence, right, I don't want. I
Speaker 1: wish nobody gets hurt. But I live in a world
Speaker 1: where I know that if you disrespect the wrong person,
Speaker 1: the possibility of violence exists. Right. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: people don't get there. Then you can't have the same
Speaker 1: conversation with everybody. Right, you might talk to Tamika, Tamika
Speaker 1: might say whatever. You might call Tamika a B word,
Speaker 1: and she might be like, you know what, whatever, I'm
Speaker 1: ignore it, right, But you might call somebody the wrong
Speaker 1: person that word in the way they react might be
Speaker 1: something that you didn't anticipate. You can't anticipate somebody's reaction
Speaker 1: to disrespect. And I don't know why people don't get
Speaker 1: that part, Whether you agree with it or not. What
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, is we live in a world
Speaker 1: with violence is rampant. We were just talking about how
Speaker 1: rampant violence is and a lot of it is based
Speaker 1: on ego, a lot of it is based on disrespect.
Speaker 1: So I believe in the boycott Black Madame mantra, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've got black murder mantral that if we lead with respect,
Speaker 1: we cut down the possibility of anybody cann kill or
Speaker 1: any violence had had had had Chris Rock never said
Speaker 1: anything disrespectful about those people, you think there would be
Speaker 1: any slap? No, am I saying that that justifies a step. No,
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that if we are intentional about
Speaker 1: respecting one another, about saying I'm not gonna say that,
Speaker 1: because that is disrespectful to people, and not saying I
Speaker 1: can say what I want to anybody, right, because history
Speaker 1: has proven that that's not true. You know that one
Speaker 1: of the lords of Potway is be careful not to
Speaker 1: offend the wrong person. You can't you can't anticipate how
Speaker 1: people are going to react to your disrespect. So you know,
Speaker 1: I hope that they find healing in that situation. You know,
Speaker 1: once again, Will is asked to be the bigger person
Speaker 1: as somebody sits there and quotes his wife a bunch
Speaker 1: of bitches and and and degrades him on TV and
Speaker 1: he has to walk around and hold that in and
Speaker 1: and that's just supposed to be what it is once
Speaker 1: again for years. You know, he've been doing it for
Speaker 1: thirty and forty years. People disrespect and doing this and
Speaker 1: another thing I just don't get before I go off
Speaker 1: this topic, why do people think that whatever happens in
Speaker 1: these people personal marriage, give them all right to disrespect
Speaker 1: that man and his wife or dead personal man. These
Speaker 1: people have been married about thirty years, they got two.
Speaker 1: I don't know how long he've been married. But what
Speaker 1: I will say is, first of all, you know how
Speaker 1: much I love and adore the smiths um and you know,
Speaker 1: I am very clear that this issue is not just
Speaker 1: as simple as people see. And that's out of the
Speaker 1: problem is that people really don't know, so they're just
Speaker 1: looking at the surface, and on the surface, you're one
Speaker 1: hundred percent right. You just slap somebody because they're making
Speaker 1: jokes because they're a comedian, and you feel like, hey,
Speaker 1: what you know, you can't you can't do that because
Speaker 1: comedians make jokes all the time, and you should not,
Speaker 1: as an entertainer take it so personally. But the truth
Speaker 1: is that this isn't just an entertainment situation, right, It's
Speaker 1: not just jokes. It's actual disrespect, like you said, and
Speaker 1: it's for a particular reason, you know. But I also
Speaker 1: understand that in terms of their personal life, people have
Speaker 1: no idea. They don't understand the intricacies and the details
Speaker 1: of their lives and what they have, what they allow,
Speaker 1: what they don't allow, what they've been through. But when
Speaker 1: you bring people into your life, you give them the
Speaker 1: ability to make judgment, to have a judgment, to have
Speaker 1: to have something to say. That's just the way the
Speaker 1: world opera, and so it's all fair game. I think though.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I was thinking to myself
Speaker 1: is this interesting what I'm saying, So listen, because I
Speaker 1: give you access to my life, right, me and me
Speaker 1: and my friend, we give you access to the situation.
Speaker 1: Does that give you the ability to be able to
Speaker 1: disrespect me because you have when I'm talking about Okay,
Speaker 1: that's thinking about those those people that have so much commentary.
Speaker 1: They have things to say, right, all these people. And
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that when I look at this
Speaker 1: situation that most people are very focused on, which is
Speaker 1: with the young guy. I don't even know his name,
Speaker 1: and for the purpose of this, we won't even I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna try to remember it. But this young
Speaker 1: man um obviously, Will was not shocked or stunned behind
Speaker 1: news of what happened between Jada and that young man. Right,
Speaker 1: this is not new news to them. They've relationship wasn't
Speaker 1: in crisis as a result of it, none of that.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out, why is it that the
Speaker 1: onus is not more so with people looking at him
Speaker 1: as why would he go tell as a man about
Speaker 1: his personal relationship with that woman. That's the part I
Speaker 1: don't understand. Why is the focus so much on Jada
Speaker 1: and what she may or may not have done in
Speaker 1: a marriage where clearly they have their whatever their flow
Speaker 1: of whatever they do, right this guy. Nope, Jada didn't
Speaker 1: run to the news. Will didn't go do an interview
Speaker 1: and tell people nothing about it. He wasn't crying about it.
Speaker 1: Jada wasn't out there going telling everybody her business. This
Speaker 1: man was the one who went and told the world.
Speaker 1: And yet I don't hear any people talking about that
Speaker 1: people live in coward culture because men don't even have
Speaker 1: a level of understanding of certain codes like that that
Speaker 1: you just don't do that. We men. There was a
Speaker 1: time with men and who they slept with was their
Speaker 1: personal business, because it used to be women come out
Speaker 1: and say, well, I slept with this. Men are right
Speaker 1: and tell old books about who they slept with, like
Speaker 1: I've never heard of no ship like this is this
Speaker 1: right here is the weirdest shit I've ever seen. And
Speaker 1: they're being celebrated. Nobody is like, yo, this is some
Speaker 1: corny shit you're doing. Nobody is calling shit corny and
Speaker 1: men men are more married mad at woman then they
Speaker 1: all this shit. I've never in my life seen an
Speaker 1: era like this. I've never seen understanding. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: It ain't for me. My mother and my grandmother told
Speaker 1: me that they could build a world over shit I
Speaker 1: don't get. And this is the world right here. I
Speaker 1: don't get none of it. So that's what I'm always
Speaker 1: gonna have a I don't get it at the end
Speaker 1: of the show because I don't get it. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand what we're doing it and what we justify.
Speaker 1: No moment why I would say though, that I think
Speaker 1: calling Jada a bitch is so wrong, and I think
Speaker 1: people sitting by watching it and laughing or and or
Speaker 1: agreeing with it, it's actually pretty sick. I just don't
Speaker 1: think that it's right, you know, So I have to
Speaker 1: say that and be very clear about it. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that I think Will should go beat them up,
Speaker 1: slap them, do any of that, because by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to be really you have to
Speaker 1: think too before you do certain things. You know, you
Speaker 1: hit somebody the wrong way and they hit their head,
Speaker 1: they die, or something happens, you can't ever take that back.
Speaker 1: You can't take it back. And the words that they said,
Speaker 1: while yes, it's disrespectful, it's hurtful, it's harmful, it's all
Speaker 1: of that. Those words and even some of their actions
Speaker 1: will not be as important when you are sitting in
Speaker 1: prison or having to deal with a body on you
Speaker 1: or now. Will, as he has said many times, his
Speaker 1: staff and the people, these great actors and others that
Speaker 1: he was making room for, they suffer now because of
Speaker 1: the decision that he made. And so that's one of
Speaker 1: one of the things that makes him remorseful about what happened.
Speaker 1: And so no, I don't think that you should just
Speaker 1: go up and slap people. Even though I know I
Speaker 1: cannot see here and say that I am exempt from it,
Speaker 1: or that it's never happened, that I've never done it,
Speaker 1: I can't say that I haven't. So I'm not passing judgment,
Speaker 1: but I am saying that we have to think before
Speaker 1: we make certain moves and do certain things, because you know,
Speaker 1: people will provoke you to put you in a situation
Speaker 1: that you can't get yourself out of. So that's all
Speaker 1: I want to say about that. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: but again, I'm just trying to figure out why I'm
Speaker 1: with you. The world don't make sense to me because
Speaker 1: in the world I lived in, like I think about
Speaker 1: my family members and the men, which they are many.
Speaker 1: I have many cousins, many many I don't know who
Speaker 1: they slept with, and sometimes that they slept with people.
Speaker 1: You know, you could kind of sense energy of people
Speaker 1: that's around. You bring your girlfriend, your own girlfriend, or
Speaker 1: you see somebody else with their girlfriend come around the
Speaker 1: family hanging out. The next thing you know, the energy
Speaker 1: is a little weird, but you mind your business. You
Speaker 1: don't talk about it, and as long as it ain't
Speaker 1: no big you know, big scandal or whatever. People. I
Speaker 1: never knew the man to go tell everybody what happened.
Speaker 1: I just I never saw that just has not been
Speaker 1: a thing that's happened in my life. And social media
Speaker 1: exposed a lot. Social media exposed you to a lot
Speaker 1: of different type of individuals and shit that you didn't
Speaker 1: think was prominent. When in this culture, man, they celebrate
Speaker 1: the chatty patty man. You know, chatty Patty gives all
Speaker 1: the props these days. So you know, once again, healing
Speaker 1: in this situation. You know, there's two black brothers. It
Speaker 1: should not be at odds. But I'm definitely not for
Speaker 1: anyone being disrespected. I'm not for men disrespected women. I'm
Speaker 1: not for nobody getting hit. But I am aware, and
Speaker 1: this is why I am very cognizant and conscious of
Speaker 1: the way that I talk to people, right because I
Speaker 1: understand that disrespect breeds and opens the door for more
Speaker 1: and more disrespect. You know, So if we if we live,
Speaker 1: if I think, if we live our lives like that,
Speaker 1: if if people are intentional about respecting other one another,
Speaker 1: we'll see a lot less violence and counsels. Well, there
Speaker 1: we go, there we go. And with that said, we
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