1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Can you imagine there's still eighteen being donas. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: That's just what we're learning about. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 3: That's Peters in California's worse, Illinois worse. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: And Sanday, New York is worse a lot of other places. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: So we're going to get to the bottom of all 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: of it. 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: It's a giants and other than that, we're gonna have 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: a bring movie. 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a reason for going here because we're going 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 4: to get to the bottom of We're going to get 11 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 4: that money back. 12 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: And so about that matter. You're listening to the forty 13 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson. 14 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: Good Thursday morning. Nice have you with us on the 15 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: forty seven Morning Up, Bet, and we've got one major 16 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: story for you. Donald Trump says it's time to trust 17 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: you with your health care decisions, pushing for healthcare reform 18 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: that will lower costs and give you more power over 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: exactly what you're paying for. So why are Democrats losing 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: their minds over this? 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The White House is unveiling a 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: new healthcare framework they say will lower costs for all Americans. 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: This after the debacle that was exposed during the government 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: shutdown of just how much money we are spending to 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: subsidize the Affordable Care Act, which is anything but affordable. 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: The Trump White House, we're now being told, is expected 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: to unveil a healthcare policy framework that not only would 62 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: lower costs, but also extend expiring Obamacare subsidies while they 63 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: figure out how to move forward. MS now and Politico 64 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: reported both that the healthcare policy framework would include a 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: two year extension of the expiring enhanced Premium tax credits. 66 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: Those are the subsidies that you're paying for. Yes, so 67 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: Obamacare is not cheap at all. It did not make 68 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: things more affordable at all. In fact, it made the 69 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: healthcare insurance providers rich at the expense of you, the 70 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: tax payer. We also know that they will be enhanced 71 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Obamacare subsidies, which would otherwise expire at the end of 72 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: the year. The proposal could be unveiled as early as 73 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: this coming Monday. A White House spokesman declined to confirm 74 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: the details of the plan, stating, quote, until President Trump 75 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: makes an announcement himself, any reporting about the administration's healthcare 76 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: positions is mere speculation. But here's what we are learning 77 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: through background. The plan apparently with lower limits on income 78 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: eligibility for credits, and that would save American taxpayers a 79 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: significant amount of money. It would also, i'm being told, 80 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: set minimum premium payments as well. According to multiple reports, 81 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: the proposed eligibility cap would set the subsidies to seven 82 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: hundred percent of the federal poverty line. Republicans have complained 83 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: that with the Colone Obama here in hand subseas scheme. 84 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 2: Wealthy Americans would benefit from the subseason what was meant 85 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: to be only temporary. Why were they temporary? It was 86 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: during the COVID nineteen coronavirus outbreak when they had these 87 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: extra benefits that now Democrats want to make well lasts forever, 88 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: which is insane. The White House plan also would urge 89 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: Congress to fund cost sharing reductions and plans, which Republicans 90 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: pushed for in the Big Beautiful Bill, but were next 91 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: after Senate Democrats objected to its inclusion in Trump's landmark legislation, 92 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: believing it violated rules on budgetary reconciliation. They claimed, Now 93 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: here's the other part that's very interesting about this. The 94 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: Congressional Budget Office found that these healthcare reforms would have 95 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: lowered healthcare premiums by twelve point seven percent and reduced 96 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: costs by decreasing the need for Obamacare and the welfare 97 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: of the government for the epcts known as the subsidies 98 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: for Obamacare. The plans would have also lowered the costs 99 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: if this CRS plan would have been put into effect 100 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: by thirty point eight billion dollars. Now that's literally thirty 101 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: point eight billion dollars. It would have saved you the 102 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: tax payer, and that is exactly why Democrats were against it. Now, 103 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: the Trump proposal would also have part of their tax 104 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: credits go straight to Americans via tax advantage savings accounts 105 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: instead of the checks going directly to healthcare insurance companies 106 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: that are getting rich to lower America's premium indirectly. The 107 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: President probably would like to go bigger than the Hill 108 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: has the appetite for, so we'll have to see how that. 109 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: You know, how it works out, is what the White 110 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 2: House Reptchieve of Staff James Blair said last week talking 111 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: about the reforms that need to be made. What we 112 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: also know is the White HOUSEPG staff saying that President 113 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: Trump would love to push for healthcare reform in a 114 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: way that would be meaningful, saying, quote, we're going to 115 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: have to have the healthcare conversation. We're going to put 116 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: some legislation forward. The debuie chiefs said there could be 117 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: interest in bi Parson reform. However, he said if that 118 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: path is foreclosed, there is the Parson path of reconciliation 119 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: as well. The President probably would like to go big 120 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: because there needs to be big reforms. Republican lawmakers have 121 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: said they believe the right House will release a framework 122 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: to lower health insurance costs, expand health savings accounts, and 123 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: scrap parts of the Affordable Care Act that are just 124 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: flat out unsustainable. In fact, much of the Obamacare program 125 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: is unsustainable without record tax dollars going to prop it up. 126 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier, there's nothing affordable about the Affordable 127 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: Care Act now. The White House also signaled that the 128 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: President's interest in healthcare reform is something he believes could 129 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: be a US some change for the American people. A 130 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: slide deck shared by the House Majority leaders Stief Scalise 131 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: this last week made it clear that House GOP leadership 132 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: also falls in the overhaul camp. One slide that was 133 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: viewed by Politico was titled the Unaffordable Care Act and 134 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: highlighted statistics that show the premiums have increased by eighty 135 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: percent since the ACA passage aka since Obamacare became law. 136 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: It also claimed that more than fifty percent of Obamacare 137 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: and rollees did not file a single claim this year. 138 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: Walking into the meeting school, he said in a brief 139 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: interview that he planned to keep talking with the chairs 140 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: of three key committees of jurisdiction over health policy. That 141 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: would be ways and means, Energy and commerce, education and 142 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: the workforce. Now, healthcare became a focal point in the 143 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: national politics as Democrats shut the government down, as I 144 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier for weeks over what they described as mandatory 145 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: Obamacare subsidies. They were not mandatory. They were enhanced during COVID, 146 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: and they will expire on purpose. The Democrats planned this 147 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: way at the end of the year. Democrats first enhance 148 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: these subsis through one point nine trillion let me say 149 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: that again, one point nine trillion in coronavirus era stimulus plans, 150 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: including the American Rescue Plan. They continue the subsease through 151 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: the end of twenty twenty five with the so called 152 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: Inflation Reduction Act that did anything but that. Trump weighed 153 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: in on the issue, stating that healthcare dollars should go 154 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: directly to the American people instead of through subsidies to 155 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: health insurance companies, saying it this way on social media, quote, 156 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: the only healthcare I will support or approve is sending 157 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: the money directly back to the people, with nothing going 158 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: to the big, fat rich insurance companies who have made 159 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: trillions and ripped off America long enough, the people will 160 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,359 Speaker 2: be allowed to negotiate and by their own much better insurance. 161 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: Power to the people, Congress, do not waste your time 162 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: and energy on anything else. This is the only way 163 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: to have great healthcare in America. The Republican Set of 164 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 2: Community chairman said that a second reconciliation bill should address affordability, 165 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: which should include healthcare reform, saying the Democrats are incapable 166 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: of coming up with a plan that is competitive, transparent, 167 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: and actually reduces costs wine because they're lining the pockets 168 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: of their friends in the healthcare provider industry, and they 169 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 2: know that as long as the government's willing to send 170 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: them the check, they get rich every single time the 171 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: money comes into their accounts. This also just goes back 172 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: to consumer choice and freedom. President believes that you, as 173 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: an American deserve to have your money and then you 174 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: can put it to work the way that you decide 175 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: to do it, in a more responsible manner than the 176 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: corruption of the government. Doctor Mark Siegel on Fox News 177 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: Channel talking about exactly this, and here is what he 178 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: had to say on Fox News Sunday. 179 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: But I can't get your treatments. 180 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: What about this idea that the President has floated about 181 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: the money that flows into a lot of these subsidies, 182 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: instead of paying the insurance companies, going direct to the 183 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: consumer and letting them take the money with them where 184 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: they choose. 185 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 4: He's gotten a lot of criticism for that, but he's 186 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: on the right track because it would give the consumer 187 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 4: more control of the situation. Health savings accounts are part 188 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: of this, being able to buy your own insurance, making 189 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: it affordable, and you choose a marketplace idea more. It's 190 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: not quite that simple. That's a huge step in the 191 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: right direction. 192 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: Well, what are your odds? 193 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: Do you so? At the end of the day, there 194 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: are two options. Either you as an American, say no, no, 195 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: no government, just be in charge of my life. Doesn't 196 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: matter how much it costs, Just you be in charge 197 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: of my health care. Or there's the Donald Trump plan, 198 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: which is he believes that you, as an American, should 199 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: decide what is best for you, that you should spend 200 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: your money in a way that is well more responsible 201 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: than what the government does each and every day, and 202 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: he believes that prices will lower significantly if you do 203 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: it that way. I think many Americans have made it 204 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: clear they like the way the President is describing this 205 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: the amount of corruption that we are witnessing from those 206 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: in the Democratic Party and in government who are overspending 207 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: your tax tours and what are you actually getting in return? 208 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: Not a lot for your money. And that's where we 209 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: are today. 210 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update 211 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: with Ben Ferguson. 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