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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue Joe Grande,

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Speaker 1: Mark and Craig the Pop Brothers at Law. We are

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Speaker 1: I know, and you know what. We are here with

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Speaker 1: a great guest, Cheryl Schuman to celebrate what episode isn't

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Speaker 1: This is our one hundred episode of Cannabis Talk one

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Speaker 1: And I mean, there is so much that Cheryl has done.

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Speaker 1: this with Cheryl Schuman, political lobbyist, first ever media expert

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Speaker 1: on camera in production Cannabis and HEMP with CNBC, MSNBC, CNN,

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Speaker 1: Fox Business News, Good Morning America, ABC vis what haven't

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Speaker 1: You know, I actually met you guys a couple of

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Speaker 1: Southwest Uh it was the Southwest Cannabis something, Yes, one

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Speaker 1: of those conferences, absolutely, yes, yeah, And I remember so

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Speaker 1: It's right, that's right. I really want to know, though,

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Speaker 1: It's self medicating, whatever you want to call it. But

429
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Speaker 1: you know, whether it's adult use or patient you're still

430
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Speaker 1: self medicating way better than any type of alcohol or

431
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Speaker 1: big farm. And what you were saying earlier really resonates

432
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Speaker 1: with I think most everybody who uses cannabis, especially those

433
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Speaker 1: who were a instant like you were saying, because we

434
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: hear that time and time again people we've interviewed that

435
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: I was against it, but then my child got sick,

436
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: my sister got sick, somebody got taken. We had to

437
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: find something. We were out of alternatives, and it's a

438
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: last resort, and we've been We keep saying it should

439
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: be the first place that people turn, not the last.

440
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: What do you think about that you're asking me? Yes,

441
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: I I feel like you're my long lost brothers from

442
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: another mother or something or somehow in my head. And

443
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more. And one of the things that

444
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: I learned over these past several years is when we

445
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: started Moms from Marijuana. For example, we have eight million

446
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: followers on Moms from Marijuana. And the main reason that

447
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: started juicing up, so to speak, was when I was

448
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: doing shows like Dr Phil and again CNBC and Fox

449
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: Businesses and all of this. So many women had had

450
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Speaker 1: that experience of getting their kids to sleep finally at night.

451
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: They're all stressed out because of the money situation. This

452
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: this is always something that's going on with with families.

453
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: But they look at and and how many times have

454
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Speaker 1: you had a little dude, but you're going to the

455
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Speaker 1: bathroom to blow the smoke out of the window, you know,

456
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: And every have a speak engagement and I bring that

457
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: up almost every woman who does it is cracking up.

458
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Speaker 1: And I really like women, especially to know that it's

459
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Speaker 1: okay if you consume cannabis and it is a healthier

460
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: alternative and you're not doing anything wrong. And I want,

461
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Speaker 1: I think it's very very important that we empower not

462
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: only women, but guys too, especially attorneys. Um. But we

463
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: still get if you guys do anything about child cases

464
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: or or any of that. We get so many calls

465
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Speaker 1: about women who've had their children taken away from them

466
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Speaker 1: because they're still in in an area or state or whatever,

467
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 1: and they don't to do They call there like they

468
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: took my kids, took my kids, They took my kids.

469
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Speaker 1: And that's when we kind of jumped superhero status and

470
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: we get them help. It's still happening here in California, people,

471
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: It's happening here in California. We get calls like that,

472
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of times a week, it seems,

473
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Speaker 1: where they're in you know, family court, and this judges

474
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: out of his mind as far as I'm concerned. Well,

475
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: he's saying that, well, you have cannabis in your system,

476
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: so you you're probably gonna do harder drugs also, so

477
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: we got to take the kids. Sure. I mean, it's

478
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: it's really insane, and you know, all we have are

479
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: people like ourselves to voice it and get it out there.

480
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: And you know, eight million followers. Uh, where can people

481
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: find moms for Marijuana. It's Moms for m J on Facebook.

482
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: And one of one of the things that I wanted

483
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Speaker 1: to mention also, guys, is that what you said something

484
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: earlier and I really wanted to tap in on it.

485
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: I forget what it was, but um, okay, we can

486
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: we can help, we can jar your memory. Yeah, it

487
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: was something you mentioned. I wanted to jump in and

488
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: because it was an important that's yeah. The main thing

489
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: that I wanted to say was, you know, be honest

490
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: and communicate. I've had women that have come up me

491
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: at events and have been tears. Then it appears to say,

492
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, you changed my life. I came out

493
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: of the grass closet for for my husband and he

494
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: had no idea and it turned out he was a

495
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: closet smoker of pot too. So this marriage had been

496
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: for like five or six years. And it's funny, I've

497
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: I've also seen a lot of mothers and daughters get together.

498
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons we started having, uh, you know,

499
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: cannabis tastings and turpen pairings, you know, with women because

500
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I'm sure you guys

501
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: agree with this, we need consumption areas where as consumers

502
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: of cannabis so we don't have to worry about getting mugged.

503
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: You know, I got mugged recently. That's horrible, terrifying things.

504
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: And and I was like, it's not a dark you know.

505
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: And he had been waiting for me. He saw me

506
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: in the more sites and he got me. And I

507
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: didn't literally didn't know what hit me. But you know

508
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: where was that, ironically is in my hometown, just outside

509
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: the pharmacy. Yeah, I just I turned my head for

510
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: a minute. I mean, you know, it happens. But you know,

511
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: what we do is the most important thing in this

512
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: is education, you know. And I know that you guys

513
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: know this, and I would really really love to talk

514
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: to you guys about some things coming up. And if

515
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: you look at the shoot list there, I mean, we're

516
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: we've done things with Netflix and all these other companies

517
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of them doing docuseries now, not

518
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: reality series so much anymore because I think they're boring,

519
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: and well they're not real. They're not real, they're not

520
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: real reality from real, you know, turned down so many

521
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: offers because the bottom line is, you cannot write, you

522
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: cannot make up, you cannot create stories that are anywhere

523
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: close to is rich and is empowering as the real

524
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: life stories about this industry every single day's right there.

525
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: So there's so much, there's a there's just a multitude

526
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: of of stories and a wealth of knowledge. It's Cannabis

527
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Talk one on one. We're here with Cheryl Schuman and

528
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: when we come back, we are going to do the

529
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Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one High five with Cheryl Schuman.

530
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: Will be back after this. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk

531
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: one oh one. Mark and Craig Pop brothers at Law,

532
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: Joe and Blue who were missing today, but we are

533
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: here seeing an actor with Cheryl Schuman. And before we

534
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: get into the High Five, we were we were talking

535
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: a little bit before the break about all the different media,

536
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: uh conglomerates that you've been involved with and all of that.

537
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: How do you see the media really taking hold of

538
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: what's going on in cannabis and kind of catapulting it

539
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: or helping it get out there. Well, that's a great question.

540
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: One of the things that I've really made my mission

541
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: on night. We had touched on the fact earlier back

542
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: in Jack Harris days. Um, most people who thought about

543
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: cannabis consumers thought of someone like Jack, an old timer

544
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: with tydie and you know, packing his pipe and so forth,

545
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: and that's not today's cannabis consumer. So the most important

546
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: thing is to know how to talk and represent about

547
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: about what we do collectively. Um. You know, one of

548
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: the things that I wanted to touch on when when

549
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: we had broke earlier was we have the opportunity to

550
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: educate a lot of these people. And I think if

551
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: it can take the opportunity to get everyone together and

552
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: know that they can educate people as well, that that's

553
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: going to be the secret of this whole thing. And

554
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: to back down never stopped when I first started. You know,

555
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: it's mainly because I had a television background, and we

556
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: all know that television is one of the most important

557
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: means of communication. That's the most deffective. And when you're

558
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: out there and you're talking to people online and you

559
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: build a relationship with it, I'm sure you guys feel

560
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: the same. When you talk to your I have a

561
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: relationship with them, and when you give them advice here

562
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, they're gonna follow it because they trust you,

563
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: they believe in you. And and that's where we we

564
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: have come to with canvas with women and so forth

565
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: and so on. But um, I'm so honored when people

566
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: come up to me and say I was able to

567
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: save my mom's life, or I was able to do

568
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: this or that, or when I look out into the

569
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: rooms and you can tell who's never been there before

570
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: and who's not quite sure that they should be there.

571
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: And and I asked the golden question, how many people

572
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: are here because they've lost one they loved? And that's

573
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 1: when people start crying. And those are the people who

574
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: need to help the most. And those are people they're

575
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna help change the world. And we can do it.

576
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: We can do it, all right. Are you ready for

577
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: the Cannabis Talk? One oh one high five questions? Sure?

578
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: I want to take you guys on the road with me.

579
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: All right, we're ready to go. We're a good road show.

580
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: We were supposed to go. We were supposed to go

581
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, Boston, and Chicago for can Con, but of

582
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: course COVID kind of wiped all that out, so I know,

583
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: but it's coming back. We're coming back. All right, Let's

584
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: do this to Cannabis talk one on one High five

585
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: with Cheryl Schuman. Question number one, how old were you

586
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: the first time you smoked? And where did you get

587
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: it from? I was thirty six years old. I had

588
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: never even seen cannaps at that point. And uh, I

589
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: was sitting in my office, actually my my therapist office,

590
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: and had gone through a tough divorce and then I

591
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: was sexually halted by plant and on top of it,

592
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: I got cancer. Like, yeah, that's like a triple fete um.

593
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: But you know something, I've talked to my doctor and

594
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: he worked from home quite a bit, and they had

595
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: put me on all these kind of antipressants and paying

596
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: pills and just every pill, it's always pills, pills, pills,

597
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: and they were making me sick. They were making me sick.

598
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: And then one day he looked over at me and

599
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: he says, I don't know how you feel about this,

600
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: but you really could use a joint and doctor. Yeah,

601
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: I said serious. He says, yeah, absolutely, it will change

602
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: your life, and it did. So wait a minute, I

603
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: just want to recap this because I think it's a

604
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: first on our high five questions. You were thirty, you

605
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: were thirty six, and you got it from your doctor.

606
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 1: That's right, that's awesome question. That's stunned. I'm stunned. If

607
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: we had more doctors like that would be a better

608
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: place out there. He even taught me how to roll

609
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: a joints great number two a little patch in his backyard,

610
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my. I was like, oh

611
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: my god, the real doctor, yes or not a not

612
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: a pill pusher? Yeah, it was I'm never my life.

613
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: I'm guessing this question number two is what is your

614
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: favorite way to use cannabis? Oh gosh, you know, I've

615
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: consue annabus almost in any shape or form you can imagine.

616
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: I do love vaping because I have these diamond and

617
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: emerald and so forth hence, and I think they're great

618
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: fashion accessory and I love fashion. Um. I also like edibles.

619
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Speaker 1: My mom had some really great recipes growing up, like

620
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: her homemade fudge that I absolutely loved. Then the other

621
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: thing I started I really like is I I love

622
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: the cook of canvabus. So I I do my own

623
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: canvas infused alive oils and those sorts of things. Excellent. Alright,

624
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Speaker 1: Question number three on the Cannabis Talk one on one

625
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: high five with Cheryl Schumann, what is the craziest Where

626
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Speaker 1: is the craziest place you ever used or smoked cannabis?

627
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I did write something down. I was I

628
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: just I was actually when uh Colora I the updated

629
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Speaker 1: for I was going to say, but my um. We

630
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: had gone back for MPP and the vote for Colorado.

631
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Speaker 1: And as you know, everyone who consumes cannabis, that's what

632
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: they like to do. They like to consume cannabis. So

633
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: we were in a government type building and we're getting

634
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: ready to look over the four twenty rally there and

635
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: we had to climb on top of the building's fire

636
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: escape up on the roof, and there was one joint

637
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: that was being shared with like thirty five people. I

638
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: was like, this is so crazy, but I love it.

639
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: That's great. What did you go to munches after you

640
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: get high? Go to munches after I get high. Oh

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Speaker 1: you know what, I need something really cool. The other

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Speaker 1: night that I enjoyed, I did a canvas infused caramel

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Speaker 1: was easy too. It really was. All right. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Question number five, Cheryl Schumann. If you could smoke cannabis

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Speaker 1: You know what? I had a sentimental one on that. Cocoa. Hey,

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Speaker 1: me make it me Coco, Hey, hey, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: no barking, no, come here, I'm sorry. Um, what we

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Speaker 1: it to you one more time if you could. It's okay, Coco,

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Speaker 1: there we go. All right we go, boy, we got him. Okay, Coco,

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Speaker 1: that's all he wanted. Here we go. If you could

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Speaker 1: smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it be? Okay,

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Speaker 1: this one is a very sentimental and some sad um

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Speaker 1: it would be my parents. Um. I was separated from

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Speaker 1: didn't meet them until I was forty seven. They had

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Speaker 1: got remarried, came back to our hometown, and sadly, um,

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Speaker 1: and I was too afraid of getting arrested at that time.

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Speaker 1: That time, it was like a fifteen year to life sentence,

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Speaker 1: so I remember my mom kind of cry. My mom,

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Speaker 1: she said, she called me Jake. She said, Jake, do

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Speaker 1: you think if I could get some of that medicine

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Speaker 1: so getting rested and having to go to prison and

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Speaker 1: dying in prison. And the sad thing is, you w

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Speaker 1: she like to be concerned. Um, And that's one of

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Speaker 1: the we all have to fight so hard. I would

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Speaker 1: give anything to be able to save my mom and

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Speaker 1: dad and I I've been having this guilt, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you guys understand guilt. I've been having this kill

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Speaker 1: feeling like I've saved a lot of people just through

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Speaker 1: educating them, making role to the right doctors in the

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Speaker 1: few weeks after. But I thought it was really really

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Speaker 1: cool that when I finally did get my parents, they

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Speaker 1: were so madly in love after all years, and they

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Speaker 1: stayed with each other till the end, and it was

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Speaker 1: really sweet. Yeah, there shouldn't have to be cannabis refugees

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Speaker 1: in our country, and we have way too many of them.

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Speaker 1: And you are making a huge, huge, huge impact and

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Speaker 1: difference in the in the world and in the world

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Speaker 1: of cannabis with everything that you've done, everything that you're doing.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much sharing all this with us

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Speaker 1: and joining us today. Please let everybody know where they

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Speaker 1: can follow you and find you on social media. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I want to say you also, I'm very honored to

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Speaker 1: be able to have a chance to share my story

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Speaker 1: and interact people. Um uh, what's my name is Caryl Shuman.

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Speaker 1: It's c h E R y L s h U

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Speaker 1: m A N. You can find me under almost any uh.

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Speaker 1: My website Ryl Shuman dot com, Twitter at Caryl Shuman

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Chryl Shuman, Facebook as Ryls shot Length and

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Speaker 1: at Caryls and and next time we talk, I'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you about personal branding and how important it is

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Speaker 1: that you have your own brand no matter what business

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Speaker 1: grand definitely what definitely should have a follow up show absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And you know, whenever we're ready to get on the

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Speaker 1: road with you, you let us know we will be there,

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Speaker 1: you bet, absolutely, And before we go, I just hope

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Speaker 1: you know that even though we're going through a tough

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Speaker 1: time here in America, there are other countries on the

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Speaker 1: world love us and that are willing to invest in

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Speaker 1: our companies and that believe in what we're doing. So

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Speaker 1: don't give up hope yet. If people need to help

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Speaker 1: find someone to help them get an investor and get

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Speaker 1: their business back on track with with all this is

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Speaker 1: going on, feel free to reach out. I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: either introduce them to someone or see what I can

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Speaker 1: do to help myself. Cheryl Schuman, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. Remember this. If nobody

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Speaker 1: loves you, we do. Thanks for listening to another podcast

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Speaker 1: of Cannabis Talk one oh one, the world's number one

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Speaker 1: source for Everything Cannabis featuring Cheryl Schumann, a three time

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Speaker 1: cancer survivor and CEO of Beverly Hills Cannabis Club,