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Speaker 1: Welcome in here today, Isaac, are perfectly right about too long,

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Speaker 1: I as well, am perfectly a twin twinning. You know,

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Speaker 2: Let me explain what's going on with me first, real quick.

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Speaker 2: So this week is kind of crazy for us because

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Speaker 2: you're seeing it later obviously, but this is the weekend

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Speaker 2: where Chad and I are on the road and we're

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Speaker 2: with Team Extreme and Lovely Liz is coming with us

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Speaker 2: as well Ruth, and we are in Albany and New York.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm sitting here and we were recording on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday this week and you couldn't get a guest

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Speaker 2: So today we only have two segments to record, and

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Speaker 2: I said, Brook, hey, I want to jump in the

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Speaker 2: pool ram from this. I'm not getting all dialed up.

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Speaker 2: So here I am perfectly rated and with this cool

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Speaker 2: not going to die. My hair until Saturday, so it's

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Speaker 1: I think it's great. I'm not going to die my

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Speaker 2: Oh, Saturday morning, I would die it, wash it, do it,

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Speaker 1: What a day to be perfectly rated. Though I'm looking

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Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm eager to get into this today.

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Speaker 1: This is the second consecutive week of Francine requested watch Lungs.

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Speaker 1: This is an idea that you had about a month

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Speaker 1: or so ago. We were just chit chatting about watching stuff.

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Speaker 1: We had seen, some pretty pretty i would say, pretty

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Speaker 1: cool stuff that we weren't really you know, like we

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Speaker 1: were kind of digging out some randoms. Last week we

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Speaker 1: watched DDP and just Incredible. And this week we're gonna

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Speaker 1: dig into our first series as we're gonna We're gonna

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Speaker 1: delve into your show, The Legends of the Arena.

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Speaker 2: My show, my one and only show, because it almost

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Speaker 2: brought me to the brink of death via a heart attack.

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Speaker 2: Let me just tell you, running a show is no joke.

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Speaker 2: You ran conventions, you know, you kind of get the gist.

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Speaker 2: Running the show takes a special type of person.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I was not prepared, and I'm not gonna name names.

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Speaker 2: I know y'all want me to, but I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: name names. But let me just tell you about the

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Speaker 2: fucking cry babies I had to deal with ridiculous. They

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Speaker 2: wanted certain I mean divas. You think the girls are divas.

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Speaker 2: These guys, I had a handful of them. You know.

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Speaker 2: It was a charity show, Okay, so it was. It

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Speaker 2: was supposed to be for a cancer. We went with

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Speaker 2: the American Cancer Society. I called them. I wanted somebody

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Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, we're just gonna write to

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Speaker 2: charity a lot more. Let's do it. Not only was

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Speaker 2: told two things. I was told Atlas was not allowed

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Speaker 2: arenas guys number two. I wanted to use Rob Feinstein

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Speaker 1: Do you remember who it was that filmed it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Was it Smart Mark Video?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, what do you mean. I didn't

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Speaker 2: So I called. I threatened to sue the guy. The

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my show.

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Speaker 1: So we have to then move this somewhere where you

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Speaker 1: But still this should be on your platform in some way,

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Speaker 2: I sold it to Rob later. Now you know, Rob

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Speaker 1: Like exactly, I'm broken.

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Speaker 2: The guy who did this to me. At first, it

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Speaker 1: He just filmed it, so he thought I could just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he distributed it and was trying to make a book.

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Speaker 2: I was sending him to do stuff. People were complaining people.

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Speaker 1: All right. Let me ask this. So it was your

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Speaker 1: Booked, right he was at the time. I don't know

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Speaker 2: I had my daughter on July twenty eighth.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you were eight months pregnant, and you know when

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Speaker 1: I don't have you don't have to. It's already. It's

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Speaker 1: Legend of the Arena. E CW Reunion quote e CW

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Speaker 1: the ECW Arena event.

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Speaker 2: So what, okay? Can you just go ahead a little bit?

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Speaker 2: And why did not? What?

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Speaker 2: Hate rehashing stuff because him and I are good right now,

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Speaker 2: I'm life is too short. I'm not gonna hold a grudge. Yeah,

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