1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Manky listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: From the outside, the Green County Historical Society's main building 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: might seem unremarkable. It sits in Waynesburg, a small southwestern 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania town known for sheep farming and coal mining. The quaint, 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: two story structure has a brick facade, a white porch 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: and trim, and four chimneys, at times red, white and 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: blue bunting hanged from the railings. The inside is surprisingly 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: spacious for a house that was originally built in eighteen 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: fifty seven. Rooms that once served as a parlor, dining room, 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: and kitchen now hold glass cases with displays about the 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 2: county's history. It's well lit, with cheerful pink flooring and 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: floral wallpaper. As visitors explore the museum, they may find 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: themselves in newer editions, hallways and wings that were added 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: later in the nineteenth century. Some rooms in these extensions 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: feature recreations of settings like a schoolhouse, a chapel, and 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: a train station. Still there are signs of a darker 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: history here. In the west wing, there are marks on 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: the doors as if someone tried to break them down 20 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: or escape. But it's the basement that holds the real terrors. 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes called the dungeon. The underground chambers are unfinished, with 22 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: dirt floors and bare brick walls. A shackle hangs from 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: the ceiling, a silent testimony to the brutality that was 24 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: once common here. 25 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 3: However, when it. 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Was built in eighteen fifty seven, the facility was an 27 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: ordinary house for the Reinhardt family. They dwelled there for 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: just four years before they sold the building to the 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: State of Pennsylvania. Now public property, the house was converted 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: into a housing facility for low income people. The new 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: owners installed several additions, including numeros bedrooms for residents. Initially, 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: the facility didn't have a formal name, and over the 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: years it was referred to as the Green County Poorhouse, 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: the Green County Poor Farm, and the Green County House. 35 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: As its various titles imply, the residents worked on an 36 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: on site farm to earn their keep. Some had mental 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: health conditions or physical disabilities that prevented them from working, 38 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: while others were families who had simply fallen on hard times. 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: The population had many diverse needs and history shows the 40 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: staff at the Green County House weren't always well equipped 41 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: to help all of them, but at first the facility 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: ran pretty well. Green Scene magazine published an article by 43 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: Matt Cumberlidge titled Going Green. In it, he noted that 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: public officials conducted inspections throughout the first decade of operation. 45 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: By and large, the visitors were impressed. They noted in 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: their reports that the residents seemed happy, the staff appeared 47 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: dedicated and compassionate, and the housing itself was in excellent condition. However, 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: the eighteen seventy one inspection, which occurred ten years after 49 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: the Green County Poorhouse opened its doors, was less glowing. 50 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: By this point, the facilities were packed. Although they'd been 51 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 2: designed to accommodate forty clients, there were seventy three adults 52 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: and eleven children on site, more than double the recommended capacity. 53 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: The Board of Commissioners of Public Charities of the State 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania included more disturbing details in their report. They 55 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: said that two mentally ill women were held in barred 56 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: cells toward the back of the building. One of them 57 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: was completely nude when they paid their visit. However, their 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: conclusions were oddly optimistic, and they suggested the Green County 59 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: House could reclaim its previous stellar reputation with some improvements. 60 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: Sadly said improvements did not materialize to make matters worse. 61 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: Within another four years, the Green County Poor Farm had 62 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: become even more dangerously overcrowded. They hadn't made any updates 63 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: to expand their capacity, but by now they'd swelled to 64 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: house ninety residents. To make room for everyone, the staff 65 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: laid out eight beds in the attic to accommodate sixteen 66 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: extra clients. The building was crumbling and in desperate need 67 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: of maintenance. Cumberledge's reporting and Going Green noted that mice 68 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: and other pasts swarmed through the dormitories. By eighteen eighty one, 69 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: the poorhouse was considered to be one of the worst 70 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: in the nation, according to an Atlantic Monthly article. In 71 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: eighteen eighty four, the state intervened, relocating many residents with 72 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: mental health conditions to psychiatric wards that were better equipped 73 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: to address their needs. This shift followed a visit where 74 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: as Lancasters, the New era newspaper, reported, visitors determined the 75 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: building was unsafe and the floors were pitted with holes. 76 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: The stretched too thin staff let their residents wander around 77 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: and made no effort to treat clients with mental health 78 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: conditions any differently from the general population. They even noted 79 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: in their report that there was no running water in 80 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: the building and residents had to bathe outdoors in a 81 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: river even in the dead of winter. I'm Amy Bruney, 82 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: and this is haunted road. Afterward, the staff tried to 83 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: reform operations at the Green County House, but their efforts 84 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: were apparently too little, too late. They were unable to 85 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 2: address the chronic overcrowding issues. Each time they reassigned residents 86 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: to another facility, new clients would come pouring in, and 87 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: the structure continued to crumble. In eighteen eighty six, the 88 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: staff expanded the house with new wings and wards to 89 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: accommodate their growing population. But even with the new additions, 90 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: the Green County Poor Farm remained infested, dirty, and the 91 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 2: staff were still unable to care for their residents's unique 92 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 2: mental and physical needs. An article is in Davenport's Daily 93 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: Democrat titled an Asylum Horror, posted a quote from one 94 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: resident who'd been there for five years. He said, I 95 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: cannot sleep in my bed for the bugs. I have 96 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: been sleeping in the hall here nigh on five years 97 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: now here the bugs no bother me. Later that same 98 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: article described the unsanitary conditions that many sick residents had 99 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: to deal with while fighting serious and potentially fatal illnesses. 100 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: They put it starkly, several of the inmates were dying 101 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: like hogs in their filth. More construction and renovation still 102 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: failed to address the issues, and in eighteen ninety reports 103 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: began appearing in the papers that the man who ran 104 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: the facility, William B. Cage, had a sadistic streak. The 105 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 2: Story of an Aged Institution, again by Matt Cumberlidge, says 106 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: William gravitated toward brutal punishments for minor infractions. He beat 107 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: residents with his cane or chain them in the basement 108 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: where they weren't fed. He was also said to steal 109 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: food from his clients, throwing gallas and serving it to guests, 110 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: while the people in his care starved, neglected, and demoralized. 111 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: The residents suffered horrible tragedies. One man hung himself on 112 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: the premises in eighteen ninety one. One of the most 113 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: disturbing accounts from this time was reported again by Cumberlage. 114 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: According to Matthew, some time around the turn of the century, 115 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: a woman who was staying at the facility became pregnant 116 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: by another resident. 117 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: On a chilly. 118 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: Day, fearful that the baby wasn't warm enough, she put 119 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: her newborn in a bread oven and left it there 120 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: until it died. The scent of its baking body permeated 121 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: the house. Finally, around this time, the public pressure became 122 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: too great and the cruel director, William B. Cage, lost 123 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: his position. Afterward, the Green County Poorhouse transformed rapidly. The 124 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: facilities were cleaned up and repaired, and the population was 125 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: reduced to a more manageable forty adults. The new management 126 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: also adopted a name change to Green Hills Farm. Interestingly, 127 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: this was the first time the facility had an official name. Afterward, 128 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 2: the complex continued operating in relative peace and quiet until 129 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty four, when it closed down for good. Five 130 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: years later, in nineteen sixty nine, the century old structure 131 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: was condemned, but it didn't have long to sit and 132 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: fall into disuse. The following year, a group called the 133 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 2: Green County Historical Society began renting the facilities for the 134 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: very low price of one dollar per year with a 135 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: guarantee of no rate increases for half a century. The 136 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: Historical Society had been operating since nineteen twenty five, and 137 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: as reported on the Green County Museum's website, they were 138 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: devoted to preserving important artifacts and records related to their region. 139 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: As time went on, their archives grew and they were 140 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: in need of a new headquarters to accommodate their expanding collection. 141 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy one, they reopened the Green County House 142 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: as a museum with displays for their artifacts and antiques. Today, 143 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: anyone can drop by and see the exhibits between April 144 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: and October, but during the winter and early spring they're 145 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: only open first special events. But even during quiet stretches 146 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: where visitors don't come by, it's said the dead are 147 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: quite active. Like many haunted places, there are reports of 148 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: footsteps and screams with no apparent cause. Passers by here 149 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: pounding on residents' former bedroom doors, possibly the same doors 150 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: that show signs of damage from previous escape attempts. 151 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: These noises are especially. 152 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: Common in the basement, even when it's supposed to be unoccupied. 153 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: Visitors have heard moans and screams coming from below. The 154 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: woman whose baby died in the oven is said to 155 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: still linger in the kitchen the location of her great 156 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: personal tra and other full bodied apparitions have popped up 157 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: throughout the house and the surrounding grounds. Sometimes these spirits 158 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: are dressed in clothing from the eighteen hundreds. Passers through 159 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: might feel a tug on their clothes or a pinch. 160 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: A piano in the main hall occasionally rings out with tunes, 161 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: even though no one is sitting by to play it. 162 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: The lights flicker or turn on and off on their own, 163 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: and mysterious scents wafted through the air. Sewage, burning hair, 164 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 2: and rotting flesh are commonly detected. On one occasion, Cumberledge 165 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: was in the Green County Historical Society when he heard 166 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: a door slam. He didn't see anyone around, even as 167 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: footsteps thudded by. Then a box slid across the floor 168 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: all on its own, eerie evidence that he wasn't as 169 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: alone as he thought. He told another story where a 170 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: volunteer worker was startled while they were vacuuming. They saw 171 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 2: a hand reach toward them from a closet that was 172 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: supposed to be Emptyographers often capture strange images on film, 173 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: extra faces that weren't visible in the initial shot. Notably, 174 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 2: this happened at least once in the West Wing. According 175 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: to the Observer Reporter, the staff have dubbed it the 176 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: Bad Wing due to the ominous sensations they feel while 177 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: they're When one guest snapped a photo in the Bad Wing, 178 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: they were surprised to find a woman in a nurse's 179 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: uniform in the image, a woman who hadn't been visible 180 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: when they took the picture. Another lady, dubbed Margaret by 181 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: the staff, is frequently cited in this same area, but 182 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: many of the worst horrors seemed to stem from the 183 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: basement where residents were once tortured and starved. Often people 184 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: who descend into the depths get the eerie sensation that 185 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: they're being watched. Now, no discussion of paranormal activity at 186 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: the Green County Historical Society is complete without discussing the 187 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: region as a whole. Apparently, Rosemary Ellen Guiley said Green 188 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: County is the most haunted county in all of the 189 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: United States in the National Association of Counties. Meredith Moran 190 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: noted that it's a hot spot for Bigfoot and UFO sightings. 191 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: Strangest of all, Moran described some kind of lobster monster 192 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: that's said to snatch unwary people who cross its path. 193 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: As ominous as this may all sound, accounts suggests the 194 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: spirits at the Historical Society are friendly overall. In The 195 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: Yellow Jacket's article Paranormal Activity in Green County by Emma Hurley, 196 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: the ghosts generosity is described. Apparently they like to leave 197 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: antique pottery or swords in recently cleaned rooms, a way 198 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: of reaching out to the living, perhaps and saying hi. 199 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: During its operation as a poorhouse, it's said anywhere from 200 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: seven hundred forty six to one thousand people died on 201 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: the premises. It's hard to say for shore due to 202 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: gaps and record keeping, but it's fair to say many 203 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: of the residents were ordinary people who'd ended up at 204 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: Green County House due to circumstances beyond their control. By 205 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: and large, they didn't wish anyone harm during their lives, 206 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: and there's no reason to think that's changed now. I 207 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: can think of no one more qualified to speak on 208 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: this location than Matt Cumberledge himself. I've cited him numerous 209 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: times in this episode, and I had the pleasure of 210 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: working with him and his staff when we spent a 211 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: week investigating there with Kindred Spirits. So he is coming 212 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: up after the break. I am now joined by Matt Cumberledge, 213 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: who is the museum director, and it's so nice to 214 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: have you with us. We actually we met when we 215 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: filmed Kindred Spirits there. 216 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed that was back in August, if I remember correctly, 217 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: last August. 218 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a lot of fun. 219 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: I have to say, like, I love love this location, 220 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: like it's one of my favorite episodes. 221 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite haunts. 222 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit jealous that you get to work 223 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: there every day. 224 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. It's something I never grow tired of. 225 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful building, wonderful history, and interesting paranormal activity 226 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: there for. 227 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely, and so like right off the bat, I 228 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: just want to say what I really like about this place, 229 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: just as a researcher myself, is that this is one 230 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: of those locations like I don't I barely had to 231 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: leave to research. 232 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: You have the library. 233 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: There, and you have such extensive records of what went 234 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,119 Speaker 2: on there, even some of the more honestly horrifying accounts, 235 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: like you have documentation, which doesn't happen very often. 236 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: No, it's really uncommon to have stuff like that. Like, 237 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, I've always had an interest in facilities like this, 238 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm sure you guys are familiar with transautic any 239 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: lunatic asylum. And you go there and they tell you 240 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: these stories, is not always wonder it's like are they 241 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: making this up? You know, is there any is there 242 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: anything too this? Now, I don't doubt their stories. I 243 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: had an aunt that worked there that actually was able 244 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: to verify some things that happened in the nineties. But 245 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: we're very lucky that we have all of these nineteenth 246 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: century accounts in their vivid accounts, you know, Like I 247 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: tell people when they come here to visit, it's like, 248 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, everything I'm telling you I can back up 249 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: with documentation, and yeah, people seem to enjoy that, and 250 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times I like to bring that stuff 251 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: out and like, you know, here, you know, read this article, 252 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: look at this. There's insanely horrifying things that happened here 253 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: way back when. 254 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I honestly like when we were there and 255 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: we were investigating, as you know, we're there a lot 256 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: when when we're filming we basically move in for a 257 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: few days, and even when you know, I had downtime 258 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: where the cameras weren't rolling, I would just run into 259 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: that library and start looking through things because it was 260 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: so fascinating. So, but that being said, it has been 261 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: a while since I've been there. How is the activity? 262 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: How how have things been going there? 263 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: The activity, it comes and goes. I'm sure you'll remember 264 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: that we're we were kind of in the middle of 265 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: some renovations when you guys were here. We still are 266 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: and that always tends to uh peak the activity a 267 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: little bit. So, you know, it's it's been fairly busy 268 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: here lately. In fact, a few days ago I had 269 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: a pretty interesting experience. Oh share, please, Well we this 270 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: was two weekends ago. We had a local paranormal group 271 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: that came out and they helped us do a fundraiser. 272 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: What they did was they they brought all of their 273 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: equipment and we sold tickets. People were able to come. 274 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: We we served dinner, there were a few presentations, and 275 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: then after everything was done, this local group would take 276 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: groups of people around and investigate various parts of the building. 277 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: Well that that started at three o'clock in the afternoon, 278 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: and of course I was here much much earlier than that. 279 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: I had gotten here about eleven. And I'm sure you 280 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: remember the brick oven in the kitchen with the intermous story, 281 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: so we do use that when we serve food. We 282 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: actually bake food in there. And so I was here 283 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: early to start a fire and get things ready with that. Well, 284 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: I was the only one that was here, and I 285 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: heard the back door open, and I thought, oh, okay, 286 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: it's nothing. So I figured the rest of my staff 287 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: had kind of come in and we're getting started with 288 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: the day. So I had gone back in the west 289 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: wing to do a couple things. And when I went 290 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: back that way, I had gone into one room and 291 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: I heard somebody walking down the hallway behind me, and 292 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: I heard the women's bathroom door open and closed. And 293 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: when I walked back out of the hallway, I could 294 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: hear somebody moving around in there, and I thought, oh, okay, 295 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: well Janis or Barbed they're here. They're cleaning the bathrooms, 296 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, getting ready for tonight. So again didn't think 297 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: anything else it. I go back into the kitchen and 298 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: there's a window in the kitchen that looks back onto 299 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: the building and it actually looks into another window in 300 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: the west wing hallway. I'm looking out that and I 301 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: clearly see a person in a blue shirt walk past 302 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: the window. It was a guy. I'm like, oh, that's 303 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: not any of my staff. So I run out of 304 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: the kitchen. I'm like, who's here? So I come out. 305 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: Nobody's there. I peek down the West wing hallway. No 306 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: one was there. I look up the set of marble 307 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: steps that goes upstairs to the women's wing, and we 308 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: had a curtain at the top of the steps to 309 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: like block drafts and keep the warmth in the parts 310 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: of the building that are heated, because as you know, 311 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: the whole place isn't heated. And I saw that curtain 312 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: move as if somebody just went through it. So I thought, 313 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: oh God, we've got an intruder. So, you know, I 314 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: started to get a bit panic because I'm not thinking paranormal. 315 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: So I run up the steps, go through that. I 316 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: search every room in that hallway, and there wasn't a 317 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: soul to be seen, and that's the only way in 318 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: and out of that hallway. So I come back downstairs 319 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: and I text everybody. I'm like, are you guys here? 320 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: They're like, no, we haven't, We're not there yet. We're 321 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: Jana said she's almost there, So I wait around until 322 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: she came in. I'm like, and I told this whole 323 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: story to Janis. I was kind of half freaked out, 324 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: and she said, well, do you want to you want 325 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: to search the building? I'm like, I kind of do, 326 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: so I told her. I said, I don't want you 327 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: to help me search because the back door is open. 328 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: That's the only way in and out of the building. 329 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: Every other every other exterior door was locked, and they're 330 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: dead bolts that are keyed on the inside and the outside, 331 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: so it's not like you can flip it and get out. 332 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: So I said, I want you to guard this door. 333 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to thoroughly search the entire building. So I 334 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: did that. It took me about a half an hour, 335 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: and I mean I looked in closets, I looked in 336 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: trunks and where that was big enough for a person 337 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: to hide, and no one. I come back downstairs and 338 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: Janis is a bit freaked out because while I'm out 339 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: searching the rest of the building, there was somebody just 340 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: outside of the kitchen walking around that she could hear 341 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: but couldn't see. 342 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: Ooh, so wow, that's wild. 343 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: It was, and so that was going on for a 344 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: long time. 345 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the duration of this was probably close to an hour, 346 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: I would say, And like I said, I, I was 347 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: freaked out because initially I thought intruder, but it definitely 348 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: wasn't you know? It was? 349 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I have an interesting story sort of along 350 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: those lines. 351 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: I didn't. 352 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: I don't think it made the show because it didn't 353 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: really have any have to do with anything. But so 354 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: I was outside at one point and I was doing 355 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: what we call an OTF and on the fly interview. 356 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: So there's a camera operator and the sound person and 357 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: producer and I was standing out on the lawn trying 358 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: to I can't really describe like behind that barn area, right, 359 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: And so I'm back there and I'm doing my interview 360 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 2: and John Tenney was helping us on this case, and 361 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: so he's he was sitting out back smoking and he 362 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: could see me while I was doing my interview. And 363 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: so then as i'm I walked back afterwards, and I'm 364 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: walking in and he's like, he's like, who's that kid? 365 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: And I'm like, what are you talking about? And He's 366 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: like that kid that was like playing around you the 367 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: whole time. Just now, He's like, does anybody who does 368 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: that child belong to? And I was like, there's no 369 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: kid there, John, And he's like what He's like, no, 370 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: I've just watched why you did your interview the whole 371 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: time there was a little kid playing in the grass 372 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: like near you. He's like, and I couldn't figure out 373 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: why you weren't talking to this child. He's like, cause 374 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: you love kids, he said, but I thought maybe you 375 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: just like knew who it was or and he like 376 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: legitimately like started sweating and like turned like pale. He 377 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: was like, are you are you joking? Like you didn't 378 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: see it? Like I'm like, none of us saw this kid, 379 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: Like apparently while I was sitting there, there was this 380 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: kid just like playing, This little kid with dark hair 381 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 2: just kind of hanging out on the lawn and walking around. 382 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: He's like, and he couldn't figure out who this person 383 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: was and so fully saw it still to this day, 384 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: like if you bring it up, he gets really weirded 385 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: out by it, Yeah, because he's just like because he 386 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: watched it happen for so long. 387 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 3: So I don't know if anyone else has ever reported 388 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: you see it. 389 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: Definitely not the first. Really, I have never seen that 390 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: little boy myself, but we've had several people, including some 391 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: of my current and past staff, say they've seen a 392 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: little boy about nine or ten years old playing in 393 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: and around the barn out there quite a bit. 394 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: That just gave me full body chills because I don't 395 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: even think we even told you about that. 396 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: I just think I like it aware of that. 397 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, that is so insane, Like honestly, like, I've 398 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: got such chills right now because, like I said, he 399 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: watched him for so long and he knows me, like 400 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: whenever there's a kid around, I'm like hey, and so 401 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: he was just like I can't figure out why she's 402 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: not acknowledging this child near her. But that's so oh okay, 403 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: that's really interesting to know. Well, now you know Haunted Roadies, 404 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: you heard it here first, So. 405 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 3: Okay. 406 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: So now that's one of the things I love about 407 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 2: that location is the activity is constant and it's also 408 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: I mean to a point, there's lots of bangs and 409 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: knocks and like footsteps and stuff that happen all the time, 410 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: but there are so many apparitions that are seen, which 411 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: is kind of uncommon, Like it's it's here and there, 412 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: like places will have full bodied apparitions, but it seems 413 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 2: like people see like apparitions to the extent like you 414 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: where you think it's a living person or like John, 415 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: you think there's a living person and then they're just gone. 416 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: So that's that's got to be an interesting thing to 417 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: have to work with. 418 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: It is and I can't remember if I told you 419 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: guys in the interviews, but to be brutally honest, before 420 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: I started working here, I didn't believe in the paranormal, 421 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: and my mate, my mind changed very quickly because you 422 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: just start experiencing things like very consistently, Like my first 423 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: week here, there was activity and it's like, what is 424 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: going on? Have I gone schizophrenic? Am I insane? Did no? 425 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: Go ahead? 426 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, eventually you just have to 427 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: accept the reality of yes, yes, there is a lot 428 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: of activity here, and yeah, it'll it'll make you a 429 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: believer very quickly. 430 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: Now does Kenny still work there? Is that his name? 431 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: Yes? 432 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 3: Yes he does, Yes, Oh how's he doing? 433 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 2: I know he was nervous about going up on that 434 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: second floor area after that whole like, So there's a 435 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: there's a clip that he showed us. Basically, he went in, 436 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: he heard all this banging upstairs, he started filming. 437 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: He like opened the door and. 438 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: Like felt shot up there and you could hear it, 439 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: Like it was sounded like someone was just kind of 440 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: banging on the walls and stuff. Like, has anything like 441 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: that happened since? 442 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: No, it hasn't. The activity kind of changes in different 443 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: parts of the building, Like this area might be active 444 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: for a while, this area might be active for a while. 445 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's cycles, but you know 446 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: you'll have activity here and then there, and there's a 447 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: lot of it's dynamic. It changes quite a lot. But no, 448 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: nothing like that. 449 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: Since Okay, yeah, that was People comment on that video 450 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: all the time. For the record, anybody who's listening, if 451 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: you've seen the episode of Kindred Spirits that we filmed there, 452 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: there's this clip that Kenny showed us where you hear 453 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: something banging up there and a lot of people are like, 454 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: I see something moving, but when you look closely, it's 455 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: just the shadow from the railing, So there's really nobody 456 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: up there. And that he was genuinely pretty petrified, and 457 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: I can't blame him, Like if I went to walk 458 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: upstairs and heard that. I probably would not be I 459 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: would probably have vacated the building as well. But I 460 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: would have thought person, I would have thought live person, 461 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: I like you. I would have thought, like, somebody has 462 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: broken into this building and I need to like go 463 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: call the police. 464 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. My first few weeks working here, I would 465 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: hear somebody walking around upstairs and it was vivid, you know, 466 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: like you see a lot of the stuff on TV 467 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: and it's like you hear what could be footsteps. I 468 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: mean this was like it sounded like a heavy footed 469 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: person walking round upstairs and I would search. It's like, 470 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: is somebody in here? In my maintenance guy company. He's like, 471 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 1: you'll get used to this, You'll get used to this, 472 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, you won't. But he was right, 473 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: you eventually do. 474 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just kind of you learn to just live 475 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: with it and work with it. Now of all of 476 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: this activity that happens there, Like, who do you think 477 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: is responsible for these happenings? 478 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it's the people who lived 479 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: in this building in the past. I also kind of 480 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: presume there might be some activity that has kind of 481 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: come with some of the artifacts in the building. But 482 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is people who have 483 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: lived there. 484 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Do you find that any so sometimes? 485 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: I mean to me, a lot of what we encountered 486 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: seemed kind of residual in nature. But like, are there 487 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: ever any spirits there that just like seems fully intelligent, 488 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: like they're fully trying to interact with you and you know, 489 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: relay some sort of information. 490 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh again, I can't remember if we went over 491 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: this in the interviews, but there's definitely intelligent activity there. 492 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: Way way back when I first started here, the building 493 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: was laid out completely differently. You know, we've moved a 494 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: lot of the rooms around, and all of the Native 495 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: American artifacts were displayed in a room upstairs. And I'm 496 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: an archaeology buff. I love that sort of stuff. So 497 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: a friend of mine and I who's also an archaeology buff, 498 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: we were up there cataloging that stuff. And we had 499 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: found part of a collection of Native American projectile points 500 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: and these were all numbered and they were part of 501 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: actually one of our founding members collection from the nineteen twenties, 502 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: so they were all numbered, but there were a few 503 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: of them that were missing, so we assumed they were 504 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: still there. So we were kind of searching to put 505 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: this collection back together. So we had boxes sitting in 506 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: this room and we were going through stuff trying to 507 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: find these last four or five points, and we started 508 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: finding them, and we had gotten down to where we 509 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: needed two left to put this collection completely back together. 510 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: So we were sort of driven to find those so 511 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: we could finish what we were doing. So we looked 512 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: at the list. We knew what sort of point we 513 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: were looking for, so we started going through these boxes 514 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: looking for that. And as we're doing that, we go 515 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: to take a break and we sit back down at 516 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: the table we were working at and we had a 517 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: book laying open that it was an identification book, and 518 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: the points laying right there in the center of the book, 519 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: and it wasn't there moments ago, you know, and so 520 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: we're like, oh, that was kind of creepy. Yeah, So 521 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: we put that with the collection and we start looking 522 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: for the last one and lo and behold, the exact 523 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: same thing happens. As we're looking through boxes. This last 524 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: point just sort of materializes on the book that we 525 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: were using as a reference. 526 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: That's always so when that happens, I have had that 527 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: happen one time. 528 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: Well, a couple of times. 529 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: One of the biggest times was it was an old 530 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: house I was living in years ago, and I had 531 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: a tooth infection and I couldn't find my. 532 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: Antibiotics I was. 533 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: Taking, and I knew I had left them on my sink, 534 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: like I knew it, and I was because that's where 535 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: I put them as I took them in the morning. 536 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: I took it and like I was getting so frustrated, 537 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: like to the point because of tears, because I really 538 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: just wanted to like take my medicine. And I like 539 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: I remember I was in the bathroom and I was 540 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: This is clearly not a story that has to do 541 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: with your location at all, but I just I can 542 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: relate to because it's so creepy and not creepy, but 543 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: just like it's one of those mo moments where everything 544 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: your whole body just kind of goes what just happened. 545 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: So anyways, I'm I'm in the upstairs bathroom and I 546 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: look at the sinkboard and my medicine's not there, and 547 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: I turn off the light and I'm like in tears 548 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: almost and I turn around. I'm about to leave, and 549 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: I seriously heard this voice in my head that said 550 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: turn around and turn on the light. And I turned around, 551 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: I turned the light back on, and my medicine was 552 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: sitting right in the middle of the sink, like in 553 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: the sink. And I mean this was a span of 554 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: like five seconds, and I was just like equal parts thankful, 555 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: equal parts horrified, Like what just happened? Where did that 556 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: come from? How did I not hear it? So for 557 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: you to have that happen twice, that is crazy. 558 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Twice in like a few minutes span. 559 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they said they want I mean, they were 560 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: being helpful and they wanted you to have it and 561 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: wanted you to make you to make sure the collection 562 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: was complete. But it's like, where were they? How did 563 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: they get there? I just have so many questions when 564 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: things like that happened. Yet now I know that when 565 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: we did Kindred Spirits there, so I think a lot 566 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: of my listeners haven't necessarily watched Kindred Spirits. But there 567 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: was a point where we did do like a pretty 568 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: powerful spirit box session where we brought in the employee. Yeah, 569 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: it was I mean, I wish we could have done 570 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: it justice. I mean, I think it was really compelling 571 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: on the show. But it went on for quite a 572 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: while and We brought in all the employees, which we 573 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: like to do when we're investigating these kinds of location 574 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: sometimes because we know that the spirits are familiar with 575 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: you, you're there every day, and especially the people who we 576 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: could be dealing with, they could have trust issues, and 577 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: so we brought in the employees and you and everybody. 578 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: And so I remember during that spirit box session they 579 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: brought up a garden multiple times, So I want to know, 580 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: did you put in a garden? 581 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: We did in a little area out between the library 582 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: and the smokehouse. This year we started a small herb garden. 583 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: Nice because it was so strange, Like multiple times it 584 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: came up that they were like, we want a garden. 585 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: Where's the garden? So I'm last you guys fulfilled their wishes. 586 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: We try to be respectful them as possible because I 587 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: look at it this way. Their life was probably not 588 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: that great, uh when they lived here, And I think 589 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: the renovations we've done to the building, I think the 590 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: fact that we treat them respectfully, I think it gives 591 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: them a little bit of peace now that they didn't 592 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: have in life. 593 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: Right. 594 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's nice too, that they're being 595 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: acknowledged you know, you're giving them, you know, a say 596 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: in what happens, and you're taking them into account before 597 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: you make changes or and. 598 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: I know er than I have. 599 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Now do you do you find yourself and 600 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: other like people who work there and volunteer there, do 601 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: you all find yourselves talking to them kind of regularly, just. 602 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: Like they've become part of our day lives. Like we 603 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: try to let them know our schedules because the only 604 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: time I've never really experienced anything properly negative there, but 605 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: there are times when you get the sensation that you're 606 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: not exactly welcome there. Again, not so much in a 607 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: negative sense, more of a can't you just go home? 608 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: It's our time now? So like if we know we're 609 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: going to be there late or things are going on, 610 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: we try to put that out so that they can 611 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: prepare for it. And you know, I mean, I would 612 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: want somebody running around my house at ten o'clock at night, 613 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: So it's nice, nice to give them the heads up. 614 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's very fair. That's that's kind of you. 615 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: You know, It's it's just not often that you see 616 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: a historical location kind of accept their spirits so so willingly. 617 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, and like obviously I'm sure 618 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: you know I've talked about this before on the show, 619 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: but just how sometimes these the spirits and the paranormal 620 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 2: activity can sometimes be, you know, a valuable revenue source 621 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 2: for historical locations that are, you know, trying to kind 622 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: of make ends meet. And I think that there's a 623 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 2: very kind of respectful way to do that, which you 624 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: guys have really succeeded in doing. You know, you acknowledge 625 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: they're there, You let people investigate respectfully, You're very true 626 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: to the history and make sure that that is accurately 627 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: portrayed and told there's no sensationalism happening. And so I 628 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 2: think that that's really key, and I think you could 629 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: probably I think you set a really good example for 630 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: other locations like you who want to kind of embrace 631 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 2: this side, assuming they actually have hauntings, right, Yeah, Yeah, 632 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: And I. 633 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: Really appreciate that because those are conscious efforts we do make, 634 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, as far as revenue goes, the paranormal 635 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: investigations are what keep us going as a historical society. 636 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, for anybody that's not familiar with this building, 637 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: it's it's very large, it's not you know, state hospital large, 638 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: but you know, most historical societies like us might be 639 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: housed in you know, maybe like a Victorian house or 640 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: something like that. We've got fifty two rooms and thirty 641 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: five thousand square feet. The maintenance alone is staggering, Yeah, 642 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: and the utilities are staggering. So if it wasn't for 643 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: that source of revenue, we would probably cease to exist. 644 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah. 645 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think it's good. I think that 646 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: there's you know, I think it's important that that that 647 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: paranormal hobby that some people don't necessarily take seriously, like 648 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: whether or not you believe in it, you know, sometimes 649 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: there's a lot of good that can come from it. 650 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 2: So I think you're the perfect example. 651 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 652 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: What I like about the people we get coming here 653 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: to investigate is it tends to be smaller groups, and 654 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: they tend to be as equally interested in the history 655 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: of the location as they are the activity. And you know, 656 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: I love seeing that because it is a very haunted 657 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: and active location and it does have a fascinating history, 658 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: and I think it's important that that history be known 659 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: and remembered because you know, almshouses and poor farms are 660 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: sort of one of those forgotten areas of history. You know, 661 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: you don't hear about them, So this is one of 662 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: the few places you can come and actually experience and 663 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: learn about that. 664 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: History, right, I mean they were It's one of it's 665 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: obviously sad history, but it was honestly very important then too, 666 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: Like where else would these people go? So well, I 667 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: do want to thank you for taking the time. Now, 668 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: if people want to visit, they want to support you, 669 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: what do they need to do. 670 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: The easiest way. We're on Facebook under Green County Historical Society, 671 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: and our website is Green County Green with an e 672 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: green countyhistory dot org. And make sure you're looking for 673 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: Green County, Pennsylvania, because I know we get a lot 674 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: of calls for Green counties and other states. So yeah, 675 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: make sure you're looking for Pennsylvania. 676 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: I noticed that myself when I was looking. I was 677 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: trying to find your email address or something, and I 678 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: was like, oh, there's a lot of Green County historicals. 679 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 680 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. A few years ago I got an email from 681 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: this place in North Carolina. They're like, hey, can we 682 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: get you to speak at our event? You know, blah 683 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, and I look at it and 684 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's nowhere near here. And I replied to 685 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: him joking, and I'm like, I would love to and 686 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: I I typically, you know, I don't expect Pamer for that, 687 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: but in this instance, because you're in North Carolina, I 688 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: might have to ask you mileage. 689 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure our listeners will get it right. So 690 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: but I do really appreciate you taking the time. And 691 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: hopefully I'll be back to visit soon. 692 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: Oh, I certainly hope. 693 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 3: So. 694 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: We'd love seeing you guys again. We had a blast 695 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: when the crew was here. It was fantastic, awesome. 696 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We'll talk soon. 697 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. Amy. 698 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: We can only speculate on what the afterlife holds, but 699 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: the spirits of the Green County Historical Society might offer 700 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 2: a hint. Like life, death seems to hold a mixture 701 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 2: of the good and the bad. 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