1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to this League uncut. Rule of twenty four hour 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: NBA news. This's ll. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Chris Haines. It's no time, work's time. It's so time. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: This League uncut is underway and on fire. 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: This should be a good one. 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: Welcome in, friends to a solo essay Steinleine edition of 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: This League Uncut. I wrote a piece this week on 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: my sub stack about Michael Jordan, the one and only 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: Aired Jordan, and how he has essentially he's traded the 10 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: Charlotte Hornets for a spot in the Forbes four hundred 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: Forbes listing of the four hundred wealthiest people in America, 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: and Michael Jordan he is the first athlete active or 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: retired to crack that list. Impressive, but I decided to 14 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: adapt the written piece into a podcast soliloquy because I 15 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: can't stop myself from wondering. 16 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: I keep asking the question. 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: It's something I've been asking for a few years now, 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: but this is really the time to ask it. What 19 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 3: does Michael Jordan think? What does Michael Jordan really think 20 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: about his NBA ownership legacy. I don't think you'll ever 21 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: be able to convince me that he's good with it, 22 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: no matter what the Bank Balance says not after the 23 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: last dance that we all inhaled in April and May 24 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty, the world soaked in every episode and 25 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: the last dance. It really did bear to the world 26 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: what winning truly meant to Michael Jeffrey Jordan. It will 27 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: never compute, never compute, at least not to me, not 28 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: after watching that that the wildly successful and maniacally competitive Jordan. 29 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: He's never done better as a businessman than he's doing 30 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: right now. But he left an undeniable impression when he 31 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: owned the Hornets that he was okay with losing. Now, 32 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: because of the Forbes announcement and all the hoopla this week, 33 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: Jordan has been celebrated anew and again serious hat tip, 34 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: unreserved hat tip. He is forever going to be known 35 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: as the first professional athlete on that list, active or retired. 36 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: And it was the sale, the recent sale of the 37 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: Woebegone Hornets, that put Jordan in this rarefied air even 38 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: for him. Forbes itself valued the franchise. The Hornets, according 39 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: to Forbes, were worth only one one point seven billion 40 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: as recently as twenty twenty two. This summer, Jordan just 41 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: sold the team at a valuation of three billion dollars, 42 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: which means Charlotte was sold for the second highest sale 43 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: price in league history, behind Matt Ishbia's purchase of the 44 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: four billion dollar Phoenix Suns. When Forbes published the article 45 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: this week trumpeting Michael's rise to the Forbes four hundred, 46 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: the way they put it, we're talking quote nearly seventeen 47 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: times its value compared to when Jordan became principal owner 48 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: in twenty ten. When you spell it out this way, 49 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: on those terms, Michael Jordan won. He won big time, 50 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: an absolute route the franchise. And remember the franchise was 51 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: known as the Bobcats when Jordan took over. It only 52 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: cost him a reported twenty five million dollars out of 53 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: pocket it to assume control of the Bobcats at that time. However, 54 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: the Bobcats turned Hornets. In Michael Jordan's thirteen full seasons 55 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: in charge. They had as many nicknames as playoff appearances 56 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: two and even if we throw in the end of 57 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: the two thousand and nine ten season, which was right 58 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: after Jordan took over the team in March twenty ten, 59 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: if we include that year Charlotte under Jordan, it still 60 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: never won a playoff series and appeared in just fifteen 61 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: playoff games. Compare that to Mike's personal total one hundred 62 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: and seventy nine playoff games as a six ringed Chicago 63 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: Bull the Jordan Hornets for his thirteen full seasons, they 64 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: went four to twenty three and six hundred. That's one 65 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy seven games below five hundred for a 66 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: composite winning percentage of four to thirteen point four to 67 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: one three from twenty ten to eleven through last season. 68 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: And worse yet, the Hornets they became known in league 69 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: circles as a team with an apathetic owner that didn't 70 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: want to spend. Like it or not, that was the reputation. 71 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 3: Now you could argue it's because the Hornets so rarely 72 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: feature in the broader general NBA conversation. 73 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: Let's admit it. 74 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: We don't pay tons of attention to the Hornets, and 75 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: we didn't even when Jordan was the owner. Or more 76 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: likely it's because no one wants to criticize the man 77 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 3: that many regard as the NBA's greatest player ever. Whatever 78 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: the reason, and it's probably more the latter than the former, 79 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: there just hasn't been much discussion about this topic in 80 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: recent years. But I'm going to be that annoying guy 81 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: who brings it up and poses the question, at least rhetorically, 82 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: because to be honest, I don't think MJ is going 83 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: to sit down with me for an answer anytime soon. 84 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: That doesn't change the fact, though, so many times when 85 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: I watched the Hornets in recent years, especially after the 86 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 3: last dance, I found myself wondering, where was that MJ 87 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: in the proverbial owner's suite because we never saw it. 88 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: We just didn't. We never saw that in Charlotte. 89 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: Theories to explain this they range from what you would 90 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: classify as pro Michael that he quickly got frustrated by 91 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: how little he could control things on the court compared 92 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: to how much control he had when he was actually playing. 93 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 3: And then there are the more dismissive notions that making 94 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: this a financial conquest or his golf obsession, that those 95 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: things are what really have dominated Michael Jordan's competitive spirit 96 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: in recent years when team building proved to be so problematic, 97 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: I again would simply relish the opportunity someday to ask him, 98 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: which I realize is highly unlikely. He was impossible to 99 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: get near even at twenty nineteen's All Star Weekend in Charlotte. 100 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: And remember, as Hornet's owner for that All Star Weekend, 101 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: he was essentially billed as the Grand Marshal. 102 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Of that All Star Weekend. 103 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: Couldn't get near him the twenty twenty All Star Game 104 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: in Chicago. And I want to stress to you how 105 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: synonymous Michael Jordan remains with the Bulls. I just traveled 106 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: abroad and saw so much Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan stuff, 107 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: and I think we underestimate that sometimes in the States, 108 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: just how obviously he's massive here, but just abroad, Michael 109 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: Jordan continues to be the Chicago Bulls even today. Now, 110 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: when in the past I've chided Jordan for this low 111 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: profile he's maintained as part of these public appearances, all 112 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: I got back was that mere mortals like us will 113 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: never be able to fully grasp how complicated it is 114 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 3: for someone of Michael's global fame to operate in public. 115 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: And I have to concede, Okay, we probably will never 116 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: fully grasp what that's like. But if you may please 117 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: allow me to cling to hope, somehow, someway there will 118 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: be a chance to interview him somewhere down the line, 119 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to cross my fingers, but not not going 120 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: to hold my breath now. As for mj the businessman, 121 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: he's one of the absolute all time greats. You do 122 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: not need me or Forbes to tell you that. Let's 123 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 3: be honest, Jordan was a mogul and a brand before 124 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: we even knew what people were talking about when they 125 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: said things like my brand. He's earned a reported two billion, 126 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: two billion with a B from his four decades association 127 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: with Nike that continues to flourish today. Obviously, Jordan brand 128 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: is doing huge business. You all, I'm sure are aware 129 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: of the movie Air that Jordan's initial contract and signing 130 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: with Nike in the eighties inspired. And look, he realistically 131 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: just eclipsed his career shoe Houl with this sale of 132 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: the hornets. That's how significant the dollar amounts are here. 133 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: And you put all of that on top of what 134 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: has to be considered an untouchable legacy as a pitchman 135 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: for Gatorade, Haynes McDonald's anything else that Michael hawked in 136 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: collaboration with his longtime agent David Falk. Yet the business 137 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: of basketball, it's its own one of a kind beast 138 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: when we're talking about putting rosters together that are worthy 139 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: of winning championships, and simply being Michael Jordan wasn't enough 140 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: for MJ to sor to those heights. 141 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: By all accounts, he's. 142 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: Been a tremendous owner in the NASCAR world, teaming with 143 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: Denny Hamlin and Bubba Wallace. But man, first of all, 144 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: we had to process be difficult concept in February that 145 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan is now sixty. He celebrated his sixtieth birthday 146 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: in February, and here we are, six seven, eight months later. 147 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: We are now forced to contemplate the idea that Michael 148 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: might actually be done with the NBA in hands on terms, 149 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: beyond the minority ownership stake that he still retains in 150 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: the Hornets. The reality is, like it or not, Nike 151 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 3: never did come up with the shoe that could help 152 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: Air Jordan levitate to the stratosphere of ring winning boss, 153 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: and really he never got anywhere close. And most of all, 154 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 3: the big takeaway from my piece and what I'm sharing 155 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: with you guys here, I'm not sure we're ever going 156 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: to gain a true understanding of how all that sits 157 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: with him? All Right, everyone, thanks much for listening. As always, 158 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: please remember to rate, review, and subscribe to this League 159 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: Uncut if you haven't already. I'm going to have an 160 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: interview Saturday with Timberwolves coach Chris Finch that will be 161 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: on my radio show in Dallas, the Saturday Steinline presented 162 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: by Panini America that airs on ninety seven Won the 163 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: Freak in Dallas also and iHeart Property, We're gonna put 164 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: that interview on this feed as well, so any interested 165 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: parties out there you will be able to get a 166 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: Timberwolves preview, get your Anthony Edwards fix from my conversation 167 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 3: with Chris Finch and then the famed Chris, the one 168 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: and only Chris Haynes and I. We will be back 169 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: to full strength early next week with our usual two 170 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: man game. Greatly appreciated everyone, Thanks again for tuning in 171 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: and ramping up with us, because yes, the season is 172 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: almost here, days away, real NBA games that count two 173 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: weeks and change. 174 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: We're getting close. Back with you soon, everybody, Take care. 175 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: And that'll do it for us. 176 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: See you next time. 177 00:12:54,200 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: This League Uncuttage and iHeartRadio Production, Christine and Marks Time