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And that's a Bloomberg business flash. Tom 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: and Mike Cara Moscow, thank you very much. Brian Bowski 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: is whe Us. He's trying to get past his disappointment 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: or the twins lost last night. UM, looking at at 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: the markets, we're talking about earnings beforehand. Um, to what 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: extent in your mind does the stock market reflect what's 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: going on in the economy these days. UM, that's a 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: great question. You know, we've had a nice recovery off 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the lows um from February and from our lens, you know, 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: we continue to thank the SMP is gonna close at 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: the year, so we're pretty much there. So I have to, 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, put my money over office. I think at 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, stocks I think 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: are reflecting what's going on fundamentally. However, there's a lot 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: of different variables aside from the economy. We have the election, 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: and we have what's going on in China and the 42 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: rest of the emerging markets, volatility from Europe. So you know, 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: I think the prior segment when we talked about the 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Fed potentially moving the summer is going to have an 45 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: impact on stock prices on on a on an intermediate basis. 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: One more question then to you as we move on 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: in the morning, and Brian Bells can't want to give 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: you a massive shout out. Your resilient optimism has clearly 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: been conveyed in the retail sales report and the jobs 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: report that we saw on Friday. When does the investment 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: click in by corporate America? You know, again, at the 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: end of the day, I think they're waiting around to 53 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: see what happens um um in Washington this fall. So 54 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna blame the sun, Donald Trump, Well, gonna blame 55 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: it on Paul. I mean, the thing to think about 56 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: politicians is this two things. We believe that politics have 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the absolute performance of the stock market. 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: You can either enhance or to track the current the 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: trend right So the trend right now is kind of sideways. 60 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, we think with with a more conservative administration 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: and we're gonna see more business friendly with a more 62 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: liberal Uh, we're gonna see a little bit more regulation 63 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: and in pressure. And I saw. So you can't fault 64 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: Corporate America for kind of sitting out its hands right 65 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: now because at the end of the day, you know, 66 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: stock prices have gone up, Tom because they've been more 67 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: conservative and they've built build up their cash reserve, they 68 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: bought back stock and their paying dividends. Brian Belli, thank 69 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: you so much of them. Capital Markets on the Equity 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Markets again, SMP had two thousand sixty seven. Michael mckewe 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: we mentioned Mr Trump there. We somehow got Donald Trump 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: into a conversation with Brian Bellski our next guest fifty fifty. Yeah, Well, 73 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, nobody talks about politics or Donald Trump these days. 74 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: It's been a long time since we've heard that name. Uh, 75 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: we've got checked out with us from NBC's Meet the 76 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Press eleven o'clock. At three o'clock, you could hear him 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: here on Bloomberg Radio every Sunday. Uh, and Chuck actually 78 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: I want to not talk about Donald Trump for just 79 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: a second. I know it's very difficult, but today's primary 80 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: day in Kentucky and Oregon, and Bernie Sanders expected to 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: do very well in Oregon and may do well in Kentucky. 82 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton has the delegates, but it's beginning to look 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: like she may not be able to clinch the nomination 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: before uh you get at least in bound delegates before 85 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: you get to Philadelphia. Well, right, it was always going 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: to be super delicate the name Barack Obama didn't clinch 87 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: the nomination, uh in in just bound delegates. He had 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: had supers too, So don't don't get caught up in that. 89 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, today this is There's a reason why 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign threw a little money into Kentucky is 91 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: because they realized the this wasn't They're sort of limping 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: to the finish line here. Uh, and they would like to, oh, 93 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: stop this narrative of geez, she's got this basically one. 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: But boyd, Democrats don't seem very enthusiastic about it in 95 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: the rest of these states. Um. Look, the may states 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: in general on the primary calendar are more Sanders like 97 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: electorates in general. Um, they look like states that you know, 98 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: like they look forward. So part of this is just 99 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: the happenstance of the calendar in the order of the states. 100 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: But you know it's say, look at Sanders. Uh, we'll 101 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: know early tonight because Kentucky is polls clothes very early 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: and they count there both very quickly, so we'll know 103 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: quickly whether whether Clinton has anything to crow about tonight 104 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: or not. Chuck, before we turn to Donald Trump, is 105 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton laying low, if you will, to not use 106 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: her gunpowder before she gets near convention and then onto 107 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the important end of the races is quiet part of 108 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: the model. Now, I wouldn't call it just that way, Like, 109 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: you know, she's not going to disappear. I think she 110 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: is gonna show up on the on the talk shows. 111 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: I think, well, you know, I think I'll be seeing 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: as soon as my guests, and I think that, you know, 113 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: maybe even a couple of times before the convention. So no, 114 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: they don't think they can go totally underground because Trump 115 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: he never goes underground, right, so you can't really seed 116 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: him that um, but I do think you're going to 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: see her. Uh take a step back a little bit, 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think you're gonna see her tonight. 119 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: For instance, she's not gonna worry about doing either a 120 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: victory speech or any speech tonight. I think she's taken 121 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: a couple of days off the trail. I think you'll 122 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: see her, you know, out in the States, maybe three 123 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: days a week between now and the convention, which is 124 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: about what you're going to see Trump. So that's what 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: kind of pace you may see. Um as I was 126 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: told by people close to the campaign, Yeah, she's she 127 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: she'd like to start getting her getting getting a little 128 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: bit of rest right now before the before the convention. 129 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: And General actually pushed interesting peace and political this week, 130 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: suggesting that you know, normally fi spread fidential choices don't 131 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,119 Speaker 1: matter all that much, but in this case they may 132 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: by softening the edges of two candidates people don't particularly like. 133 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: But at the same time, this vice the next vice president. 134 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Maybe uh, we may be going back to the Alban 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: Barkley days, a warm picture of spit because you've got 136 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton bring along Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump ain't 137 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: bringing anybody along with him. I think you you just 138 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: point out what makes the job potentially unappealing to so 139 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: many people because of that you know, could you really 140 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: be a governing partner? You know, the last three vice 141 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 1: president have actually been very fairly powerful members of their 142 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: respective administrations. You know, they all have pretty decent roles. Cheney, Biden, 143 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: and Gore. Um Or being less of the three, but 144 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: at the time, or compared to his his predecessors, was 145 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: more active, and so it's really increased. So I think, 146 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: particularly with Hillary Clinton, I expect her to name somebody 147 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: that she's going to on to you at the potential 148 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: almost chief the staff level of advisor. With Trump, I 149 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna do. I think part of 150 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: you look, part of his challenge is not everybody's gonna 151 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: want to want to um be on his ticket. I 152 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: think he's gonna I think he will find plenty of 153 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: people that will want to do it, but the perfect candidates, 154 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: UH propose that. I think they will not submit their 155 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: paperwork to be that it Trump Chuck Bloomberg view in 156 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours is had two terrific essays. 157 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: On eighteen sixteen. I know you've covered that election and 158 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: after the Civil War where we figured out how to 159 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: pay our debt. This ended up with a Public Credit 160 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Act under President brand in eighteen sixty nine sift for 161 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: us the to the left of Sanders debt repudiation of 162 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: Mr Trump with the Republican left, the Republican mainstream or 163 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: other Republicans to the right of Speaker Ryan. I'm dumbfounded 164 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: that place, meaning that the this the this issue of 165 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: the debt, like how important to take it? That is 166 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: going to work like a real estate transactions are. He's 167 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: already tried to back off of that. Yeah. Um, but 168 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: that just goes to you. This is this was to 169 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: me an example of how Trump um speaks before he thinks, 170 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: speaks before he studies. Uh. He did it on abortion, 171 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,239 Speaker 1: and he did it on this where he didn't understand 172 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: what the debt is. Okay, he didn't understand that. You know, 173 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: treasuries are like gold bars as far as the world 174 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: is concerned, Okay, the equivalent of a gold bar, and 175 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: so the US treasure you don't mess around with that 176 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: in the minute you do. Um, you know, forget forget 177 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: interest rates and forget people wanting to pull their money out. Um. 178 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: But it would it would cause it could cause major 179 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: financial calamity. So I don't I think that was a 180 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: case of just that's where Trump gets into more trouble 181 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: is that he speaks before he thinks, he thinks he 182 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: knows the right answers, and he doesn't. He doesn't study 183 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: then quickly, here, Chuck tudes one, are the people around 184 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: him teaching him to think before talk, or based on 185 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: your experience with Mr Trump, is at an impossibility? Well 186 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: look he Here's what's interesting about him is if he 187 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: knows when he needs to study up on something and 188 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: so he'll do it. He doesn't listen. You know, he will, 189 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: He'll take some advice and for one or two days 190 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: he'll even heat it um. But at the end of 191 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: the day he has had his He believes the success 192 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: he's had in his life is because of his gut 193 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: instinct and because of his shrewdness. And so I don't 194 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: think he views outside advice as anything other than well, 195 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: just tell me why that is. But aside whether I 196 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: need it, you know, that's just the way up, Chuck, wonderful. 197 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for the perspective. Checked out, of course, see him. 198 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: I Meet the Press, I moderator Meet the Press Sunday morning. 199 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: You could hear it on Bloomberg Radio twice Sunday afternoon. 200 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: Another hour of Bloomberg sa Aillas