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Speaker 1: These one Bill's Live presented by Called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, everybody. Steve Tasker along here with Josh Reid.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown's out for the day, so Josh reads you

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Speaker 1: going to be here with me Channel four director w

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Speaker 1: ib w I VB TV here in Buffalo. Josh, thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming in spending some time with us on a Friday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: talking talking a little, Bills. You probably got a little

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Speaker 1: extra time this time of year. Well, college basketball is

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Speaker 1: starting to crank. Yeah, but you're right because in the

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Speaker 1: past the Sabers had been buried in the standings. But suddenly,

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Speaker 1: suddenly we've got a Saber season worth watching really closely.

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Speaker 1: And it's the end of February. What do we got

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Speaker 1: like twenty six games? Is something like that? Left? And uh, man,

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Speaker 1: did you watch last night? I did, watched every bit

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Speaker 1: of How much fun was that? Yeah? It was great.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Marty and dufferr on right before we

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Speaker 1: are and I don't get it. We're getting ready for

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Speaker 1: this show, so I really don't get a chance to

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Speaker 1: listen to him all that much. But um, I watched

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Speaker 1: the game last night, and you know, I didn't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the only score goal in the NHL shorthanded in

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Speaker 1: the post seat in the overtime this year, the only

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Speaker 1: shorthanded goal in overtime and the entire league, oh year,

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Speaker 1: and Eli of all, of course, just the guy you

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Speaker 1: would pick to draw that. I know then, what I

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Speaker 1: know now, I would have bet everything, everything on the prop.

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Speaker 1: be sitting here saying I told you so. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, that's good stuff. The Bills got the Bills

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Speaker 1: the same, It's got a bunch of games in hand. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And after a night like night, I'm just like every

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Speaker 1: other jamoke out there, we're gonna make it. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have the playoffs, right, yeah, after the leaves game, did

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Speaker 1: you have that same? It doesn't matter. Still, it's been

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Speaker 1: a good season. We're not gonna make it. Still, head

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Speaker 1: That's ride in the way of a young team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it up, let him let him play, let him sink

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Speaker 1: or swim and it's fun do it. Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: That's keeping us real busy. Yeah, and we talked about

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Speaker 1: a little bit before we came on the air. The

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Speaker 1: NFL has turned it into a twelve month season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's all year round. You never stop really on the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be here Monday doing the show. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be here, Brownie's gonna be doing it remotely, and then

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Speaker 1: we're all gonna meet up in Indianapolis and Tuesday through

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Speaker 1: Friday we're gonna be in Indianapolis for the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have guests, you know, Frank Reich's coming on,

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Speaker 1: and look Sirianni might stop by, we know him. Dave's

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Speaker 1: day ball all was good. We're gonna, you know, you

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Speaker 1: just stand there all these the whole league is there.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting too because it's not there's no players.

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Speaker 1: and media, national media all descend on Indianapolis. And it's nice.

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Speaker 1: We're in radio row and you get all these guys,

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Speaker 1: guests coming on, but the fun part is the workouts

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Speaker 1: Indy they start at three, Well, it's an hour after

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Speaker 1: The unbelievable part of as you go out of dinner

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Speaker 1: A lot of stuff going on around the league at

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Speaker 1: Green Bay's like ready to like thanks for showing up, Aaron.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you, Love you man. Um, it's great. Where

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Speaker 1: like it's right on brand for that. Wouldn't that would

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Speaker 1: You're they're telling him he's gonna be a first ballot

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Speaker 1: always the story coming out of this season. I said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Russ Wilson, we're gonna talk about him in a minute

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Speaker 1: You got Derek Carr. All these guys, we see them

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Speaker 1: they trade you, he's still gonna get his money because

425
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: the deal's in place. But it's a big number, huge

426
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Speaker 1: number fifty three plus. Here here's the crazy thing. We're

427
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: sitting here talking about winning the division being quote unquote

428
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: good enough for the Packers. That organization, that's not an

429
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: organization that's built around just winning the division and being

430
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: happy like that build on winning at all. They're not worried.

431
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 1: Let me say this, I don't know how much they're

432
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: worried about anything, because they're gonna sell it out no

433
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: matter what. Sure, And if you change quarterbacks of this magnitude.

434
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: Now they did it with Aaron, from Brett Farve to Aaron, certainly,

435
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: but if you change quarterbacks and you win the division

436
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, you know, everybody's saved for you know,

437
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: the jobs are saved and all of that too, you

438
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: can't you know, realistically, I think most fans would would understand. Listen,

439
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: we had two Hall of Fame quarterbacks back to back.

440
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: We get three. It's going to be unprecedented. If Jordan

441
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: Love is good, it's not fair. That's right. It's not fair,

442
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,959
Speaker 1: that's right. But like even if he's no, I'm not

443
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: saying Hall of Fame good. If he is Pro Bowl good, right,

444
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: it's not fair. Right. Green Bay shouldn't get go from

445
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: far to Rogers to another another guy. They should have

446
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: They should have a quarterback drought. They should two decades

447
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: of quarterback they are. They have been penalized with a

448
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: quarterback drought for the next five point seven years. Maybe maybe,

449
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of with you, and I don't know

450
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: whether it's you and I sitting here where I'm tired

451
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: or looking at Aaron Rodgers because they've been gifted a

452
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: cruddy division for all these years, and you know, those

453
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks made Hay in it. I mean, there are

454
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: teams in the division it cannot beat Aaron Rodgers. The

455
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Bears can't beat him ever, ever, unless he gives it

456
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, that's it. I mean, I'm trying to

457
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: think back at the Obviously we know about Brady against

458
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: the Bills and how much he just single handily dominated them.

459
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Speaker 1: The only other one I can think of recently was

460
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger owned the Browns. I mean Roethlisberger was Yeah, I

461
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: mean his record was something like twenty seven and three

462
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: or something. But yeah, you're to your point. I mean,

463
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: he's making Hay against some bad teams. Steve Tasker, Josh

464
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: Reid here with you until three o'clock. At the top

465
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Speaker 1: of the hour, we're gonna have Tyler Dunn come on

466
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Speaker 1: from Golong Sports. He's gonna come on with us and

467
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Speaker 1: talk about the combine and all of that. We're taking

468
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Speaker 1: your calls and also the Friday mail bag is open.

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Speaker 1: You can reach us an eight O, three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty or eight. Got one call before we take a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll try and squeeze in this one call Kevin and Hamburg. Kevin,

472
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Speaker 1: you have a question about Obj what's going on? Yeah?

473
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: My question is is, first of all, thanks for taking

474
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Speaker 1: my call on that. Um, Yeah, I want to know

475
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: about what's happening with him. He visited with the Bills

476
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: before Christmas, between Banks him and Christmas and Bella and

477
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and then he just disappeared. Holidays came Jamarrow

478
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: Hamlin being king the postseason. I'd like to see him

479
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Speaker 1: maybe come back and give us another world visit before

480
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: what happens with him, because I think he'd be awesome.

481
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: If we don't like the selection of the receivers in

482
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: the draft and it's not going to be a wonderful

483
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: receiver draft like it was with you know, Jefferson and

484
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: this Jamar Chase and this dude and that dude, i'd

485
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Speaker 1: like to see him come and give us one more

486
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: visit before we decide or us decide on that. So

487
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to see him because I think he would

488
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: really help us. He's not been hurt last year, and

489
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: he didn't play last year or says the Super Bowl

490
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: injury against the Bengals. So I'd like to see him coming,

491
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, give us another visit, maybe hang up and

492
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: let you talk. Thank you, Kevin, appreciate it. Yeah, you're right,

493
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: he's been off the radar because it's kind of that

494
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: time of year when guys like that are off the radar.

495
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: One of the problems with him being signed to like

496
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, order the Bills or the teams that were

497
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: flirting with him back to the Rams was that at

498
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: that time, when he was had been cleared to play

499
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: or cleared for football activity, he didn't want to take

500
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: a physical and that is a no go for NFL teams.

501
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: He you know, he'd come back and help a team

502
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and all of that. He flirted with

503
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: that idea, but let's face it, he's going to do

504
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: what's best for Odell Beckham, and at that point it

505
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: was you might as well wait till the end of

506
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: the season, wait till the offseason, get one hundred percent,

507
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: then you could submit yourself to a physical, get back

508
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: in shape, and sign a contract. No question, he's a

509
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: really good receiver when he's one hundred percent healthy, and

510
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: if he gets back to that, there will be no

511
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: shortage of teams who want to sign him. The bills included,

512
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: But he won't be making blockbuster in fact, in my opinion,

513
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: and I don't know why what you think about this jobs.

514
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna make, you know, a fifteen

515
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: million bucks a year to come back and play. What

516
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: kind of contract will he sign? Do you think coming

517
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: back it'll be an Okay, yeah, he's thirty. He's thirty,

518
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: and that's what I was just looking up here. I

519
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: wanted to see he's thirty. He'll turn thirty one during

520
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: the season in November. So you know, we've talked about

521
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: it a lot, the drop off at thirty, in particular

522
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: at wide receiver at that position. I think he's gonna

523
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at a one year, prove it

524
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: deal type of thing. You have no problem find somebody

525
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: to do that. He'll have He shouldn't, you wouldn't think,

526
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: but coming off a knee and the look to your point,

527
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: he didn't want to do a physical for teams at

528
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 1: that point in the year when he was kind of

529
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: making the rounds different damage good teams. Teams weren't a

530
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: need like there were teams that were already interested. You know,

531
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: they brought him in and they talked to him into

532
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But that tells me that there wasn't

533
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: anybody that was near comfortable enough to bring him in.

534
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: Um last year, now he will be you know, he

535
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: injured it. What going on for it was the Super Bowl,

536
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: so going on fourteen months now since he since he

537
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: did the knee right, so we will have had ample

538
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: time to recover. I could see Odell taking this into camp, yes, right,

539
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: and just just kind of waiting seeing what the best

540
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: opportunity is. You know. The last thing somebody like that

541
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: wants to do is sign early find out that the

542
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: quarterback situation isn't what he thought it was going to be,

543
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: and then you're going, this isn't the quarterback I thought

544
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna get when I got here. You know,

545
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: you sit back and you wait for camp to start going.

546
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Then you he can be selective once again, kind of

547
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: back to where he was at the end of the

548
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: regular season when he was making the rounds kind of height,

549
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: he made it sound like he was pickinging and choosing.

550
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: But let's face at the teams at the end of

551
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: the day, we're just bringing them in to do their

552
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: due diligence. That's right. That's what it's gonna be going forward. Now,

553
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: he's not gonna sign during free agents. He's been a

554
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: free agent for long enough. But he is gonna wait

555
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: to find out which quarterback. You know, he's gonna want

556
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: to go to, one of the top quarterbacks. I mean,

557
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: he could end up in Kansas City too, for all

558
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: we know, La Buffalo Cincinnati, Cincinnati gets rid of te Higgins,

559
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: Oe j comes right in, you know, plugs right in.

560
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: That kind of thing is a much cheaper option than

561
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: the top money that T Higgins is gonna get. Um,

562
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: he's not gonna do anything until he knows, really one

563
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: hundred percent as much as you can, what the situation

564
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: going to be, unless somebody blows his socks off of

565
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: the deal, which is not gonna happen. I can't see

566
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna sit tight and wait, And I like what

567
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: you're saying. He may sign after the drect probably after

568
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: the draft and during or before OTAs start up where

569
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: he can get in start getting acclimated and stuff like that.

570
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: So that that's what I think it's gonna be. He's

571
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna bite his time, just kind of hang out and

572
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: watch and then pick his spot when everybody's all settled down,

573
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: he'll be able to pick a spot where he say,

574
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: you know what, that's a pretty good spot for me,

575
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: like a seattle that you know, we're you know, going

576
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: for DK Metcalf and play with him and those kind

577
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: of guys. Because how much acclamation do you need when

578
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: you're this far into your career, right, I mean, you

579
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: probably know everything you need to know, you know. I'm

580
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: sure there's different terminology and stuff like that, but at

581
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: the end of the day, to me, Odell is that

582
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: guy you go, hey, run down the field. I'm gonna

583
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: toss it up and you're gonna be more athletic than

584
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: everybody else. Steve Tasker, Josh Reid here with you till

585
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: two three o'clock top of the hour. We're gonna have

586
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn come and join us. We're taking your calls

587
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: and we're also got our Friday fan mail bag open

588
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: as well. We'll be right back after this. This is

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00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, and this is

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00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve

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00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: Tasker Josh Reid in for Chris Brown. Today. We'll take

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595
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596
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: want us to get to right away. We have one

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00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: guy who's waiting on the on the phone, John and Buffalo.

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00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Hey, Steve, how are you doing? Doing great?

599
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: I was on a couple of times with you. The

600
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: last time was about Super Bowl three watching the Jets

601
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: win in uh in Vietnam while I was there. I

602
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: go back so far, and Josh to tell you, I

603
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: go back. Not only did I see the Buffalo Bills

604
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: beat the San Diego Chargers in the Super Bowl or not?

605
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: I wish it was a Super Bowl in the American

606
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: Football League Conference. I go back when there were only

607
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: two channels in Buffalo, Channel two in Channel four that

608
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: was it. Channel seven came in. But somehow we couldn't

609
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: get it. And I actually saw the Buffalo Hockey Bisons

610
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: farm club of the Rangers when the Calder Cup, and

611
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: that's when there were only six teams in the National

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00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: Hockey League. But when I'm really calling about, first of all,

613
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: we got a new way this year of watching football

614
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: with the guys. I can't go to the stadium anymore.

615
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: My kids live in New York and Saratoga Springs. Around here,

616
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: we lately used zoom. You got to coordinate it because

617
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, there's a time differential to be exact. For

618
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: the Turkey game in this past year, my son in

619
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: Long Island was a it and a half against us,

620
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: so he would be two plays ahead of us, and

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00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: we had to be careful because there was a differential

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00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: of time, you know, a few seconds here and that

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Speaker 1: we'd figured out by the time clock and usually it

624
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: would be four or five seconds or that. We had

625
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: to coordinate so that we didn't give away things. We

626
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: turned down the volume, but was cool, and I thank

627
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: the Bills for it because what the fact that they

628
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: were winning so much and getting notoriety. My Heald of

629
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Town children get the games because it's on national TV.

630
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: Because they've acquired. You know, everybody wants to see them.

631
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: But anyway, we watched the one game and we try

632
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: to not give anything away, and we watched the game,

633
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: the playoff game between the Ravens and the Bills, and

634
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: we all were very quiet, tried not to give any emotions.

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00:33:54,520 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: My son in Long Island was only about one second apart,

636
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Speaker 1: you know, my son about a block away here was

637
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: about fifteen seconds apart. And we were watching the Ravens

638
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: game into the third quarter and Ravens were driving trying

639
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: to get a touchdown to put them just a little

640
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: bit behind the Bills, and my son just said, you're

641
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: gonna like this. And of course that was when Taran

642
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: Johnson intercepted the ball and ran it back for a touchdown.

643
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: So I really did like it, and he didn't give

644
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: it away by howering and everything else. The other thing

645
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention a couple of whiles weeks ago,

646
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: you talked about the Pro Bowl. I liked the Pro

647
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: Bowl the way it was this year because the girls

648
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: that like to play flat my grandson who's eight years old,

649
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: who likes to play flague football, gets to see a

650
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: lot more. And of course it's different than when you

651
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: guys played Steve and you were in Hawaii, and it

652
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: was different when the American Football League was playing the

653
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: National Football League in the Pro Bowl and then after

654
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: that because those games met something because the National Football

655
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: League belittled the American Football League so much that they

656
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: really was, you know, really tried to win that game.

657
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: But I think the changes are good. Well, thank you,

658
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: John appreciated the Bills for being so great. Well, thanks

659
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: for Jonathan, Thanks for the call. Um. Yeah, it's it's

660
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: difficult when you have kids to live out of town.

661
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: And I use the term diaspora because there's a sense

662
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: about buff I realized this as soon as I came

663
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: to town that it people like you and me. We

664
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: came here to town to live and work, and now

665
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: I've my and my family. We decided that we're here.

666
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: We're lifers here now. But we're unusual. Most people grow

667
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: up here and then leave. So there's these Bills fans

668
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: everywhere like scattered, I mean everywhere, Like you know, I

669
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: got a daughter in Alaska, I got you know, you

670
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: go to the West Coast, you go to obviously in

671
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Florida and all of those places. There's a ton of

672
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: people down there. Every place you go there's bills fans

673
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: and it's kind of cool, but you can't watch games

674
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: with your family members who were scattered around the globe,

675
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: and that makes it tough. Yeah, I like you're mentioning,

676
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: we just bought a house, so you're saying, you know,

677
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: you come here for work, and then all of a

678
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: sudden you find yourself a couple of decades later still like,

679
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: you know what, we like it here, let's let's buy

680
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: a house. So it's like we're not going anywhere. So

681
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: it's like, now we're gonna eventually our kids are gonna

682
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: get older and grow up, and then you know, not

683
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: rush time too fast here because there's still little but

684
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: and then eventually we're gonna be in the same spot

685
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: where it's like Zoom or whatever the new Zoom will

686
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: be in twenty years, it'll be like, hey, you want

687
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: to watch the Bills with your old man, and you know,

688
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: you're like they're on a different time zone exactly. That's

689
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: it's interesting because now I'm you know, I'm sitting here

690
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: with three generations in town where where we showed up

691
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: as newlyweds, right, so um, yeah, I can certainly you know, understand,

692
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, Mark's point of view. Wanting to watch it

693
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: with a kid, with your family. Yeah, it's hard to do.

694
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: It's part of it. It's hard. That's what That's what

695
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: makes Buffalo such a the fan base in the environment. Again,

696
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: it's it's such a family and even people who aren't

697
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: blood relatives, it's a family. It's yes, it's just a

698
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: family feeling. It is and it's it's part of and

699
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: I tell people this, and it's you know, you can

700
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: take it for what it's worth, but it's, uh, it's

701
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: part of the heritage of growing up here. And you

702
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: even if you're not a sports fan, you kind of

703
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: have to deal with it somehow, right, you still have

704
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: to deal with it because everybody is sure, but not

705
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: everybody is. But the ones who aren't kind of have

706
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: to put up with it because everybody else is right,

707
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: So uh, and I don't know anybody who's not. But yeah,

708
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: it's part of the fabric of what makes this region special.

709
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's the people. But part of what makes

710
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: the people happy and what they all have in common

711
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: is stuff like the bills and the saves and you know,

712
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: the water downtown and you know river works and you know,

713
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: you know the suburbs that we all know and all

714
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: the little iconic things that we all do here Ellickottville

715
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: and you know, the whole thing that people travel, right,

716
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: it's just part of you know, say things and you know,

717
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: yeah Allentown, Yeah, okay, yeah, did you go to you know,

718
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: you go to Taste of Buffalo? Yeah? Yeah, I mean,

719
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: you know all right now, if you can check out

720
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: all my ironox this summer, that kind of stuff, the Bisons,

721
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: all that, you know, all of it. We all know

722
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: that stuff. And it's a small group that you can

723
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: have those conversations with. And his call was kind of typical.

724
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: I mean, and thanks for your service, by the way, sure,

725
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: but I mean that speaks to everybody who's hearing Buffalo.

726
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, I was watching them and you

727
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: it's you. You talk about it with your kids, you know,

728
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: because they know you. They grew up being a fan

729
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: with you, They go went to their first game with you,

730
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, and um, how many people were listening to

731
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: him tell that story and we're nodding their head, going

732
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: yeah right, A lot of people were doing and a

733
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: bunch of them are like a bunch of them are

734
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna die on the phone and reach and tell us

735
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: their stories because they got one just like it. And

736
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: that's where we're all at. Sure, it's part of it's

737
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: amazing too, you know. Some of it is the point

738
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: in history we live in. But during the time of

739
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: the drought between ninety eight and or wherever it was,

740
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen, two thousand and sixteen and twenty and sixteen,

741
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: the fan base of the Bills, to me, actually got stronger,

742
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: a more callous yes right, tougher yeah, and more resolute right,

743
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: really dug their heels right, like I'm not going anyway.

744
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, I'm like, oh yeah, you think that

745
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: you think your team's bad, watch me be a fan

746
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: of might watch Sunday you think you're you think you're

747
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: a good fan. Watched me do it with this team? Well,

748
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: watch this quarterback play exactly. We were kind of in

749
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: it together. It was kind of a kind of thing,

750
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: are gonna make it hurt? Right, and um, they took

751
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: great pride in it and and because of that, we

752
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: come out on this side of it with Josh and

753
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: Sean and Brandon and Digs and the and the crew,

754
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, dude, this is you know, this is awesome.

755
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: You were riding this, you know, this freight train of

756
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: a football team now and every and now you kind

757
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: of see guys like, you know, Mark the caller's just

758
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: reaping the benefits. Yeah, it really does feel like you're

759
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: reaping benefits from all those years of of agony. I mean,

760
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: they're there now. The fan base has a team that

761
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Miller wants to play for, right, I mean, guys are

762
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: lining up right. You've got like first ballot Hall of

763
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: famers going. You know, I think buff I pick you, Yeah,

764
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: I pick you. Yeah. You know. And that's got to

765
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: feel good as a fan base. I mean really, when

766
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: you're when you're a fan, that's gotta feel good. Hey,

767
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: he likes us too, right, it's not just a one

768
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: way relationship. All right. We're gonna take a break here,

769
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Josh and I are gonna take a break. We come back.

770
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: We're gona take a call from Dan and Rochester. We're

771
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: gonna have more of your calls. We'll read more of

772
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: your tweets to us on the Friday Fan mail Bag.

773
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Josh read One Bills Live. This is Buffalo

774
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one Bill's Live Steve Task

775
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: along with Josh Ree, We've got a caller on the

776
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: line who Dan and Rochester wants to talk about Josh

777
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: and the way he plays quarterback in the decision making

778
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: he makes him taking checkdowns. Dan, go ahead, you're on

779
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Hey, guys, thanks for having me. Love

780
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: the show. Of course, this is something I've tried to

781
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: get through on before a couple of times, but of

782
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: course the show was so busy anytime the topic of

783
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: checkdowns or who should play the slot comes up. Early

784
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: before the season started, there was an interview and one

785
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: of the reporters was asking Josh about, you know, the

786
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: new dynamics between Barkley and him, and he said something

787
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I thought was telling back then, that they weren't going

788
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: to put anything in the playbook that he didn't like.

789
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: And I thought, at that time, who's the coach, you know?

790
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Dave Bo had enough cache that he was

791
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: always going to be coach Dabo. But I'm afraid with

792
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: Josh right now that they're too close. So if he

793
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: comes back to the sideline after throwing a pick or

794
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: whatever and they say, hey, you should have took the

795
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: check down, he can say yeah, but I saw this

796
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: and I wanted to try that, and I thought and

797
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: be like, okay, where he still needs a coach. I

798
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: think to say, I don't care what you saw. Take

799
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: the check out, but I don't know if Barkley has

800
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: the cache to do that. I just thought if you

801
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: guys have an opinion on that, going from Davo, who

802
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: was he's on his way up. He's got as much

803
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: cash as Josh does. But now Barkley, they're more buddies.

804
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: You mean Doris, You mean Dorsey, not Barkley. Yep. Um, yeah, here, Dan,

805
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. Don't don't read anything to into

806
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: what Josh says about having nothing in the playbook. He

807
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: doesn't like that. That's commonplace. That's the way it works. Um,

808
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: That's the way it is for Dak Prescott. That's the

809
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: way it is for That's the way it is for

810
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Let alone, Josh Allen. That don't work for

811
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: me or that aren't good for me. It was like that.

812
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't like, Yeah, that's no, I get it. No,

813
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: that's just Verbon. That's just Verbon. But that's that's the

814
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: way it is for every quarterback. Because there's some things.

815
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: A quarterback just for whatever reason, they don't they don't

816
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: like the play because they don't like the where there

817
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: it takes their eyes, or what the defense looks like

818
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: or whatever. But don't don't be sidetracked by that, because

819
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: what happens is the quarterback just doesn't like it for

820
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: whatever reason. It could be the way, the alignment, the

821
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: personnel or whatever, and there could be a way they

822
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: run it where he does like it better. But when

823
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: Josh says there's not gonna be anything in playbook he

824
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: doesn't like, that's like saying I don't know. It's like

825
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: saying he's not gonna eat anything he doesn't like. That's

826
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: like a chef saying I don't like this on the menu,

827
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: let's not put that on the menu. Well, if that's

828
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: your chef, that's that's what you don't put it on

829
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: the menu, right And and it's and it's not. It

830
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he

831
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: can't run it or won't run it, or can't throw

832
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: it or what. It just he just doesn't like it.

833
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: Um that. That happens to literally every single quarterback in

834
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: the league. In fact, some ordinators. I've had some coordinates,

835
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to get the guy to tell me

836
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: what he really likes and what he doesn't like. And

837
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: some of the guys they no, all run anything you want.

838
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: That's fine, you know, they're kind of like this puppy

839
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: dog Mentality's like, yeah, all run anything you want. But

840
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: when they run the play, it stinks because the guy

841
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: really doesn't like it that much, but he's running it

842
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: up for the coach. That's just the way it works

843
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: in pro football. You don't you want the players to

844
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: run plays they feel good about. And I know that's

845
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: a fine balance. And it sounds like, hey, just run

846
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: the play. It's not that easy. It's not that. It's

847
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: not how it works. What you can say, though, and

848
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: I will give you this. You can say, like when

849
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: Dorsey calls plays, he'll tell that every coach does it.

850
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: They'll say, hey, listen, don't forget don't forget the shallow

851
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: crowd cross, or don't forget the check down. Watch you know,

852
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: watch out for motor on the check down on this,

853
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: or watch out for Beasley late over the middle after

854
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: your first and second read, you know, go to Beasley

855
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: over there. They'll give him extra stuff like that. At

856
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: to get it in the guy's mind, to hey, remember

857
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: if it's not perfect, this guy, we know, this guy's

858
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: gonna be here. Get it. But the stuff we talk

859
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: about Josh not taking checkdowns and being more willing to

860
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: do that, that all has to do with Josh and

861
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: Josh alone. Dorsey's got stuff like that mixed in every

862
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: single play, there's an outlet somebody who's gonna be there

863
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: who's got to get open. Now, certainly you can make

864
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: it a case that, well, their outlets aren't getting open

865
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: or whatever, but that's that has not been the issue.

866
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: The issue is the decisions that Josh wants to make

867
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: and his abilities to throw the fall, throw the ball deep,

868
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: and how much he wants to throw the football deep.

869
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: But I don't get caught up in the fact that

870
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Josh doesn't like it, that they're not coaching him, or

871
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: that Josh isn't listening to him, or that they need

872
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: a different kind of relationship. Certainly, some relationships works and

873
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: some don't, but I don't. I don't think the way

874
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: their offense was was humming along this year that they

875
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: need to worry about too much about the relationship between

876
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: Josh and Dorsey being too close. I Look, I think

877
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: I think that, and I understand why Ken Dorsey caught

878
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: some heat throughout the year and everything, but keep in mind,

879
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: and I think Brandon Bean put it best at the

880
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: end of the year at his press conference. He said, Look,

881
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to think that I'm better at my job

882
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: now than I was in my first year. And I mean,

883
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: isn't that Isn't that the case for everybody? Right? Would

884
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: you like to think that you grow and you get

885
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: better and you figure out, Okay, this works, this doesn't work.

886
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: This is why I'm going to do this going forward.

887
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: This is why I'm gonna do that going forward. I'm

888
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: not one of the people that's pressing the panic button

889
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: on Ken Dorsey, Josh Allen their relationship, I think the

890
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: end of the day too and to your point, like

891
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: the whole Josh saying, hey, I don't like this. He

892
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: said that several times during the season, just on a

893
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: week to week basis, was asked about something and he

894
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: would say, you know, that was something that we talked about.

895
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable doing it to your point, like,

896
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: that's very very common, and also brought up something that

897
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: and I want to say, this was the Bears Road

898
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: game that after the game, you remember when he I

899
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: think it was that Bears Road game. After the game,

900
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: in the post game after they win, he brought up

901
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: the idea that he went to Ken when they were

902
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: already in the city that they were traveling to and said, hey,

903
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: I kind of like this. And they sat the night

904
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: before the game and reimagined to play and man, I

905
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: think it was the Bears game and reimagined to play

906
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: and then they ran it successfully, right, And it was

907
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: something that they hadn't they hadn't installed during the week.

908
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: It was something that they had like looked out a

909
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: little bit in camp, and then they brought it up

910
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: the night before and Josh and Ken, to me, that's

911
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: the working relationship you want. It's the ability to figure

912
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: it out on the fly a little bit, because that's

913
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: what you need to be able to do in this league.

914
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: That's right. It's all about the here and now and

915
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: and what you can do going forward. All right, we're

916
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: gonna take a break here. Tyler Dunn he was a

917
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: former Bills Packers beat reporter. He writes stuff for the

918
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: Bleacher Report and he's also the founder of Go Along.

919
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: He writes NFL feature stories, Tyler Dunn. Coming up after

920
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: the break, Steve Tasker Josh Reid on One Bills Live.

921
00:49:29,560 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Please these One Bill's Live

922
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: presented by called Light of Health, Steve Tasker Josh Reid.

923
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: Back with you until three works please be joined now

924
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: by a former Bleacher Report NFL writer, former Bills Packers

925
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: beat reporter, and the founder of Go Along Extended NFL

926
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: Features writer, Tyler Dunn. Tyler, thanks for coming on with us, man.

927
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. How you doing better now? It's it's

928
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: always great to talk a little football with Steve Tasker

929
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: and Josh Reid. Good. Good to see you fellows again. Yeah,

930
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: it's good. It's it's one of those days. It's like

931
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: a Friday in February. It's like there's a sheet of

932
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: ice out there. Let's just hunker down and talk. Um.

933
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: It's it's better to do that today than to go

934
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: out and what mode lawn? Right. I know, you know,

935
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we're getting off Scott free down here

936
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: in the Greater Boston Colden area. It wasn't that bad.

937
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: All these snowstorms. Usually we get hammered, and it really

938
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad this winter haven't had to bust out

939
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: the snowblower too much, So sorry to all of our

940
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: friends downtown in the northtowns. We got a bunch of

941
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, we're at that point of the year. We

942
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: were kind of in the same almost the same spot

943
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: last year. I mean virtually the exact same spot with

944
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: the Bill's roster where they were, where they're over the cap,

945
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: all of this stuff going on. They're almost identically in

946
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: the same spot, um, except they didn't have von Miller

947
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: in the club at that point last year. But they

948
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: had a ton of guys that were on one year

949
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: deals or rookie contracts that were expiring maybe like you know,

950
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: twenty two this year, and had at least that many

951
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: last year. And how likely is it for you that

952
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: their way of doing business can get them back to

953
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: the championship level again this year? You know, I think

954
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: it's easy to whose sight of the fact that the

955
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: Bills have the hard stuff figured out. Josh Allen top

956
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: five quarterback, You're going to be competing for Super Bowls

957
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: as long as he's under center. So it kind of

958
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: goes without saying, but you have to say it to

959
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: you know. I even remind myself look, as long as

960
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: he's the quarterback, you've got a shot to win. But

961
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: there are some very real concerns. You know, this is

962
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: a super Bowl window that is open. You don't know

963
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: how long it's going to be open. Every team that

964
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: pays a quarterback has to take advantage of it. I

965
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: do think that you just have to start drafting better, right.

966
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: I think that it probably starts that you can't really

967
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: go out and start handing out blank checks to free agents.

968
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: You don't know when von Miller is going to be back,

969
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of drafting better and getting

970
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: better from within. I think that you can find some

971
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: hope on this roster, and you know some of the

972
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: playmakers that were maybe a little underutilized last year. Nahem Hinz.

973
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: You saw him take over that Patriots game. What's his

974
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: role gonna be if in that offense, maybe using Dawson

975
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: Knox a little bit more gave Davis. Maybe he's able

976
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: to take a step when he's not thrust into that

977
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: number two role. But it's not gonna be easy, because

978
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: you're right, Steve, I mean, they're gonna have to really

979
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: cut some salary, maybe convince if you guys to take

980
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: pay cuts, and it's not the case that it was

981
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: the last few off seasons where you can just kind

982
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: of spend. Yeah, we've reached the reconstruction of salaries time

983
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: of season where we always see that and hear that

984
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: teams are gonna restructure player X and y and create

985
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: salary cap space. And of course the Bills are one

986
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: of the teams that'll probably look to do that a

987
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: little bit. It's funny because you know, last year, you

988
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: flash back a year ago and in the postseason press conference,

989
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean said, I'm not gonna go big game hunting, right,

990
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Von Miller shows up

991
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: and it's about as big a game as you could

992
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: possibly get right in the free agent market. But when

993
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: you start looking at the free agents that are out there,

994
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: tie immediately you go to quarterbacks, right, and there are

995
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: some interesting names out there right now. Overall, Yeah, it's

996
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a wild week down in Indianapolis at

997
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: the Combine. I'll be there, But there's a lot in

998
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: flux right in terms of the quarterbacks that are out

999
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: there in free agency. I mean, who knows what's gonna

1000
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: It's not even really who's available as a free agent,

1001
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: but Lamar Jackson, that's getting a little awkward with Baltimore.

1002
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and the Giants are probably best together. But

1003
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: of course Daniel Jones has to ask for forty five

1004
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: million a year. Why why wouldn't you ask for that

1005
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: much money? You can always work your way down. And

1006
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: then Derek Carr's sitting there saying, all right, Aaron, make

1007
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: up your damn mind, because I want to go sign

1008
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: with with the team. I mean the Jets, the Raiders,

1009
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: maybe even the Titans. There's a lot of half the

1010
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: league would probably take Aaron Rodgers. But we all waited

1011
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: for him to emerge from his darkness retreat, which I'm

1012
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It looked kind of cough. I think

1013
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: he really overplayed his hand there. He made it seem

1014
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: like he'd be in a dusty dungeon, dungeon living off

1015
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: of like you know, puddle water and ants that make

1016
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: their way into the cave, and it looked like, you know,

1017
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: an apartment in New York City that'd go for a

1018
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: couple thousand a month. They really really did not look

1019
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: that back. And it's sacers have a decision to make too,

1020
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: And I don't think they're I don't think they want

1021
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: to back. I think they're going forward with Jordan Love, right,

1022
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: that's the real question. So if they if they do,

1023
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: which we all kind of agree, we were sick of

1024
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: seeing Aaron Rodgers in a packer helmet, what happens to him?

1025
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: Certainly the Jets are in play for that. Um, maybe

1026
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: even the Miami Dolphins are in play for that because

1027
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: of two and his stuff, and plus their owner was

1028
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: already caught tampering with another franchise quarterback from somebody else

1029
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: and other and other teams. I mean, there's a ton

1030
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: of teams that would be interested, no question about it.

1031
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: Where does he land? You're right? I mean I trust

1032
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: Bob McGann at our site golong td dot com. He

1033
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: is speaking to people with intimate knowledge of the discussions

1034
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: and deliberations and the plannings for the Green Bay Packers

1035
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. So yes, there's some instincts involved,

1036
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: some experience involved, but he's talking to people in the

1037
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: know and ads of Right now, green Bay is moving

1038
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: forward with Jordan Love, and things can change. People might

1039
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: get weak in the knees. You might have Mark Murphy

1040
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: or Matt Lafloor Brian goon against have second thoughts, but

1041
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: logic tells you this. History tells you this. They went

1042
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: through the same thing with Ted Thompson the summer of

1043
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Hey Bret Bret Farve won thirteen

1044
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: games and was one play away from the Super Bowl,

1045
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: and they moved forward with Aaron Rodgers. Green Bay was

1046
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: eight and nine. Aaron Rodgers went two or six for

1047
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: twelve yards with an interception in the fourth quarter at

1048
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: home against the Detroit Lions with a playoff game on

1049
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: the line. He's not the same quarterback. And you know

1050
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: he was at his best when he had a receiver

1051
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: out there where that he has tens upon tens of

1052
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: thousands of reps with that he's worked with, and you

1053
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: can just operate off of field and audible. I had

1054
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: a player tell me he changed about a third of

1055
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: the plays last year, which is great when you've got

1056
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: to Jordian Nelson or Davante Adams and your street ball,

1057
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: and not so much with rookies that you chose really

1058
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: not to work with at all in the off season,

1059
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: unlike Patrick Mahomes bringing guys down to Fort Worth, Texas,

1060
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: and unlike stuff Josh Allen's downe in the past. So yeah,

1061
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm getting around to your question, I promise you. But

1062
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 1: I really do think they're moving forward with Jordan Love.

1063
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: They love his progress year two to year three, huge jump.

1064
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: And then it's a matter of okay, finding a trade partner,

1065
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: finding somebody to take some of this money. And of

1066
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: course they didn't want this information out because it hurts

1067
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: their trade leverage. I'm not surprised that there are some

1068
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: national reports out there that make it seem like Green

1069
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: Bay still wants them back. The Jets make a lot

1070
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: of sense. I can see Aaron Rodgers going to New

1071
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: York reuniting with Nathaniel Hackett. Evan told many times they

1072
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: were unbelievably close in green Bay. He'll have his read

1073
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: him at the line of scrimmage. He's got a good defense,

1074
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: young players on offense. I'm not saying that this pushes

1075
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: the Jets over the top. I don't think it does.

1076
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: But whatdy, Johnson's probably desperate enough to acquire him. Do

1077
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: you think that is a roll of the dice, Not

1078
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: not talent wise if you're the Jets, but bringing Rogers

1079
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: and his personality into that offensive room with the younger guys.

1080
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: It's like you said, they've got playmakers on that side

1081
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: of the ball, but they're pretty young. And we've seen

1082
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: Rogers hasn't been putting his arms around the young guys

1083
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: all that much. He wants the established veteran receivers to

1084
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: me who that's a roll the dice, because if you

1085
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: have Rogers and Garrett Wilson and all of a sudden,

1086
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: it's this that's a problem, and that is a big problem.

1087
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: I think the Jets would have to count on Aaron

1088
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers being un believably ticked off and motivated unlike he's

1089
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: ever been before. If Green Bay in that meeting room

1090
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers says something, if they tell him what

1091
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: we're here and we believe Jordan Love is our quarterback

1092
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: in the present and the future, and we're ready to

1093
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: win with him and move on, we know that that

1094
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: kind of stuff gets Aaron Rodgers going, so that that's

1095
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: their best bet because I'm on Honestly, I'm with you, Josh.

1096
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't know at this point of his career if

1097
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: he's really willing to go through April May, June July

1098
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: working with these young players, like you'd really have to

1099
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: work with them at this stage of his career. I

1100
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: mean he put him on blast with Pat McAfee, you know,

1101
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: just a month into the season saying, hey, if you

1102
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing, we gotta bench you. And

1103
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure some players, the ones I talked to you, said, look,

1104
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: it's Aaron Rodgers. He's the general. We had to play better.

1105
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, it would have been really nice if we

1106
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: had him back in OTA's right, I mean it's and

1107
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers's play starts to suffer,

1108
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: and you wonder, why does he take his own advice here?

1109
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: Should they bench him at four and eight? Hey, we

1110
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: see this across the NFL. I'm sure Steve remembers it

1111
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: in his day. You know, you put up with so

1112
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: much other stuff, drama, baggage, personality when that player is performing.

1113
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: If the talent justifies it, you put up with it.

1114
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: That's why Green Bay has had him as to start

1115
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: it for fifteen years. I don't think the talent justifies

1116
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: it anymore. I think he's an average, okay, middling starting

1117
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: quarterback for them. If this trade happens, wherever it, whoever

1118
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: it's with, when does it happen. I think the time

1119
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: frame is it's fluid, but I know Green Bay wants

1120
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: an answer soon. If conversations haven't already happened, they're probably

1121
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: happening today or tomorrow. Right green Bay is gonna make

1122
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: their intentions known to him. Aaron Rodgers is telling them. First,

1123
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has to let him know if he's playing football,

1124
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: which I think we can assume he is right. He's

1125
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: told Mac if I can play it an MVP level,

1126
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 1: He's not going in a cant with Tom Brady. He's

1127
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: gonna definitely desire his own spotlight in his own moment,

1128
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: as he should maybe. But then from there, if he

1129
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: does say he wants to play, and if Green Bay

1130
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: does say we're moving forward with Jordan Love, I would

1131
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: think it's pretty quick because everybody's waiting on this. And look,

1132
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: the Jets probably have an offer ready, Other teams probably

1133
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: have offers ready, and it's on Green Bay to leverage

1134
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: what they can to get the most for Aaron Rodgers.

1135
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: And they really should have done this two years ago.

1136
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: Last year. Imagine the haul you could have gotten for

1137
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: a rainy MVP. What three first four? First? If Russell

1138
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: Wilson's getting all that for Seattle. What does Aaron Rodgers

1139
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: getting you in? Look every quarterback this side of Tom Brady,

1140
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: this is what happens. You get to thirty eight, thirty nine,

1141
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: you just can't do what you did before. I was

1142
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: talking to Jordan loves Oca Utah State about this, A

1143
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: thought he made a great point. He's like Tom Brady's

1144
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: a freaking nature. Lebron James is a freaking nature. And

1145
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: you look at that NBA All times scoring list, Kareem

1146
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: Abdul Jabbar, you know, Wilt Chamberlain, Carl Malone down to

1147
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: Moses Malone shack their last year, they're averaging like eight

1148
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: points a game, like they're stumbling to the finish line.

1149
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: There's very, very select few athletes can do what those

1150
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: two guys are doing in their two sports at this age.

1151
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: And maybe Green Bay thought Aaron Rodgers was going to

1152
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: be different than Marino. When Breeze and Peyton and Big

1153
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: Ben and Eli and Rivers, I think we saw that

1154
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: he's not. His legs just weren't there last year. Yeah,

1155
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: to your point, moving on from a guy a little

1156
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: bit early is way better than a little bit late,

1157
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: because look what the look what the Browns gave up

1158
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson, three first rounders for a guy who

1159
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: didn't play for a year, who had all this baggage

1160
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: surrounding him, so right, and their soul right yea, and

1161
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: they sold their soul absolutely. Okay, So the other quarterbacks

1162
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: that are out there, let's talk about Derek Carr. Now,

1163
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: where if the Jets don't Land Rogers, is Derek Carr

1164
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: plan B? Or is Derek Carr plan A? Because apparently

1165
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: he's going straight to can't in Ohio from the Jets,

1166
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: right in to can't in Ohio. At least that's what

1167
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: they've told him. Oh man, I love this time of year.

1168
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: It's like, if you really believe that, then just give

1169
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: him the monages contract you've ever given a chord? Right,

1170
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: actions actions, actions speak louder than words. Everybody must remember

1171
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: that through free agency the NFL Draft, what you do

1172
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: means a hell of a lot more than anything you say.

1173
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: And there's gonna be press conferences down there at Indy,

1174
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, Tuesday Wednesday with coaches and gms. But they're

1175
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: waiting on Aaron Rodgers and maybe they like Hackett's offensive minds.

1176
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: The resume is whatever you kind of want it to be.

1177
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: I get it. He brought Blake Bortles to an AFC

1178
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: Championship game, but didn't really have a lot of success

1179
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, did not have success outside of that

1180
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: season in Jacksonville, and then fell on his face in Denver.

1181
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: A lot of that had to do with Russell Wilson too,

1182
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: but it's just not there, which tells me actions right Like,

1183
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: they brought him in because they thought they'd have a

1184
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: shot at Aaron Rodgers if nothing else. It was absolutely

1185
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: on their mind to some degree. I'm still convinced Denver

1186
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: did the same thing, so that it starts there. If

1187
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: for whatever reason they can't get Aaron Rodgers, then yeah,

1188
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: probably Derek car because they're not going to go to

1189
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: the youth rout. Sam Darnold didn't work out. A lot

1190
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: of it was circumstance, but that's a high pick. Zach

1191
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: Wilson just is a terrible quarterback in the NFL right now,

1192
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: and there's zero chances that anybody would want him to

1193
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: play anytime soon. So you've got to go with the veteran.

1194
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think it's Car. I don't

1195
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: think it's really anybody else, And they're just cars just

1196
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: sitting there waiting. It's just waiting and wondering. Sybe he'll

1197
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: go into another darkness retreat and make everybody wait some more. Right,

1198
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: start this conversation talking about Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr,

1199
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: and you want to talk about Lamar Jackson or what's

1200
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: happening in Baltimore, And basically this always turns into a

1201
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: conversation about the New York Jets, because the Jets still

1202
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: have they They're the ones with the money who could

1203
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: pay Lamar, pay Derek Carr and take on Aaron Rodgers

1204
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: cap hit in a trade for that contract. They're the

1205
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: ones with the with the spot, with the roster and

1206
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: the money. And now you've got a team like Baltimore,

1207
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: who's who I just say, they're gonna franchise Lamar, let

1208
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: him play it out. They're gonna franchise h again. He's

1209
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: gonna let him play out, and then they'll say goodbye

1210
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: to him after five good years. He's will be a

1211
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: young player entering his prime and they'll have gotten his

1212
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: best years and they'll move on from him then because

1213
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: they're not gonna give him two hundred and thirty six

1214
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: or two hundred and fifty million dollars, one hundred percent guaranteed.

1215
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: Will the Jets do that? I think that the Jets,

1216
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, who knows what if Brian Daball says, man,

1217
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: I'd love to get my hands on Lamar Jackson. Imagine

1218
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson to that offense. I don't know, it's just

1219
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: it's a possibility. I think that Daniel Jones probably ends

1220
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: up with the Giants and their best together, they find

1221
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: the right number and they keep hunting for quarterbacks down

1222
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: the road. But anything's possible. There's gonna be something that

1223
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: happens next week or the week after that. We're not

1224
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: even thinking about. We're not talking about. Maybe that's it.

1225
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: Somebody out there would give Lamar Jackson the guaranteed money

1226
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: that he wants. It's just way too hard to find

1227
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: an elite, MVP level quarterback who does the kind of

1228
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: stuff that he does out there. I know he's had injuries,

1229
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: and you're looking at the video right now, I mean,

1230
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: he looks like Kevin Durant with his body frame. It's

1231
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna take some blows, even as good as

1232
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: he is avoiding those blows. We saw it last season.

1233
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: We saw the last two seasons. He didn't finish the year,

1234
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: but somebody will pay him because teams live in purgatory

1235
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position for generations. I mean, we've lived

1236
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: it here. You go twenty years without a good quarterback.

1237
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: Somebody is just gonna give him anything that he wants

1238
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: because we've seen how special he is. And it's interesting

1239
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: this franchise tag obviously is the last thing that Lamar

1240
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: Jackson wants. And maybe at the end of the day

1241
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: he shows up Week one and plays on it, but

1242
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to get tagged, and we saw him

1243
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: handle his injury a certain way last year. However that

1244
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: went down, Hey, Sammy Watkins spoke up and said, we

1245
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: need him out there, even if it's for passing plays.

1246
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: Baltimore might have no choice. They might just reach that

1247
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: point where they say, right, let's let's trade him right now,

1248
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: get everything we can because at best we only have

1249
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: him for one more year, and a team like the Jets, heck,

1250
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: a team like the Giants enters the equation. Right. Yeah.

1251
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: I just I can't bring myself around to not to

1252
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: believing Lamar isn't in Baltimore long term. I just can't.

1253
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: I can't get there. I can't get there. I can't imagine.

1254
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: Hard bought this stage of his career once too. As

1255
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: you said, start from scratch at quarterback, and maybe he

1256
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: thinks there's a veteran out there that they can plug

1257
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: him play. And I don't know. We just mentioned car

1258
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: as a guy, but I mean, I just Lamar Jackson,

1259
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm with you, too special. Yeah, yeah, he's too good

1260
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: for them to let him out of the building. They've

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Speaker 1: got to find a number, and they got him new coaches.

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01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't like Greg Romans, you know, plan

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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: of attack in terms of the passing Greg row. Hey,

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: you guys have had Eric wood On. I'm sure he'll

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01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: he could talk about it for hours. Richie and Cognitos,

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: same thing up front at the line of scrimmage. Genius

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01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: what he can do in the running game. But these receivers.

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01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: I've talked to Willie sneed Hey, Hollywood Brown. He wanted

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: out of there to get paid somewhere else. Very elementary,

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01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: very simple. That's gonna change with Todd Monkin. I think

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: you'll see a better passing game and maybe that is

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01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: appealing to Lamar and he says, Okay, I'll meet you

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01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more in the middle. Well, let's talk

1274
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: about you know this Lamar having the leverage of just

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: with whole his services from the Baltimore Ravens, the Ravens

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01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: wanting him or not gonna be held hostage. And I

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01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: would make that We've heard this from some national people

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01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: about how they haven't supported Lamar enough with weapons on

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: the outside or whatever, and I would absolutely take an

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01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: exception of that. I think it's absolute opposite. There's never

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: been a club who's been more all in on one

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01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: quarterback than the Ravens were on Lamar when they brought

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01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: him out. They couldn't get wide receivers to sign there

1284
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: because they're gonna run the ball, because that's what Lamar did. Well.

1285
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: They put their whole roster and their whole their whole

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01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: kit and caboodle around his skill set and continue to.

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: Now you can make a case that they're not getting

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01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: free agent wide receivers to play in Baltimore for him.

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to play there because they don't want to

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: put on big pads and block. And they even said it,

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01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: John Jim John Harbaugh said, he said, we need wide

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01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: receivers who can block in the running game. That's you know,

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01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: there's only so much a team can do. You're absolutely right,

1294
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: and they had I mean they come. They basically brought

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01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: his offense from college to the Prosy. They changed everything

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: on the fly, Joe Flacco to Lamar Jackson. So that's

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01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: where against interesting because what makes him special was highlighted

1298
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: in the hole juke and like he's Barry Sanders at quarterback.

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01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: There's nobody like him. We've never seen anything like this,

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01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: so you want to take advantage of that. I just

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: feel like there's the passing game. You gotta have something

1302
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: there if you're interested in winning Super Bowls. We see

1303
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: it every year. To win three four playoff games in

1304
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: a row, you've got to be able to take your layups,

1305
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: see what the defense has given you, and do what

1306
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: Joe Purrow did here and Orchard Park that first quarter,

1307
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: hitting what seven different receivers by by the end of

1308
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: the quarter because he's just kind of seeing who's available

1309
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: and reading the field and slicing you and diceing. Yeah,

1310
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: that's what Mahomes does, That's what Josh Allen does when

1311
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: he's at his best. Lamar isn't that kind of quarter.

1312
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: But you've got to have something right, and whether it's

1313
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: Lamar not being as accurate as he needs to be,

1314
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: a lot of it is on him. I think that

1315
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: this changed with the offense and really reworking that staff,

1316
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: given t Martin a larger role, working with Lamar Jackson

1317
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: at least gives you a little hope things could change.

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01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: And hey, look, I talked to Hollywood Brown. He told

1319
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: me that Lamar The Ravens asked Lamar, who do you

1320
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: want as your receiver? And he said, I either want

1321
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy the next year or Hollywood Brown this year.

1322
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: They gave him what he wanted to your point, So

1323
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 1: it's on everybody, no doubt about him. Not having Greg

1324
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: Roman in that building man entice some wide receivers to

1325
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: join the Ravens. Three months ago, Jimmy Garoppolo was the

1326
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: free agent quarterback that everybody was kind of high on, thinking, oh,

1327
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna hit the market and this guy's gonna and

1328
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 1: Brock Purty absolutely crushed his value because brock Purty steps

1329
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: in there and makes the forty nine ers. They didn't

1330
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: skip a beat. In fact, they maybe looked better with

1331
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: Brock Party then with Jimmy Garoppolo. So now here's Jimmy Garoppolo.

1332
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: He's seeing what's going on around the league. Everybody, as

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01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned, waiting on Aaron Rodgers. What's he gonna decide

1334
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: to do? Darkness Retreat? Three point oh? Maybe? Who knows?

1335
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: Does he end up with the Jets? What do the

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01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: Jets do? What do the Ravens do? Where's Derek Card?

1337
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: As you keep going down the pecking order, at some

1338
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: point you get to Jimmy G, who, like I said

1339
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: three months ago, was kind of the kind of the

1340
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: name that was linked to the Jets a little bit.

1341
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: Is there a possibility we end up right back at

1342
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: that square one where Jimmy G is a viable candidate

1343
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: for the Jets again? Or No, where's Jimmy g end up?

1344
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: He took down Aaron Rodgers at lambeau Field right in

1345
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 1: the divisional playoff round. Well he's well, he's injured. So

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: you can talk yourself into Jimmy Garoppolo. I'm not gonna

1347
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: do it. I think it's close as he was going

1348
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: to take any team to do Super Bowl was when

1349
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: he had Emmanuel Sanders wide open, Kyle shannonhand schemed it

1350
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: up perfectly and he overthrew him. I mean, there's a

1351
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown that he couldn't hit. He's got his limitations.

1352
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: It's got to be a team with a really good

1353
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: running game, really a good defense, weapons all around him.

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01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: That that's what he had in San Francisco. I think

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: that's absolutely as good as it gets. And he's he's

1356
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: gonna be that two dollars DVD at the bottom of

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01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: the kmart bit somebody. Somebody's gonna have no choice but

1358
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: to just say, all right, Jimmy Garoppolo, that could be

1359
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: the Jeff press conference, and it could be the Jets.

1360
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: Gonna be somebody. That's for sure. He'll be. He'll be

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01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: in the league next year. I got one last thing

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01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 1: for youa Tyler. We just got a report out this

1363
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 1: yesterday and today that before he left Seattle, Russ Wilson

1364
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: had asked have Pete Carroll and the GM John Schneider fired.

1365
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: Uh he met. I mean, it is an absolute power

1366
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 1: play within that organization to try and get what he

1367
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 1: wanted done for whatever reason, and the Seattle Seahawks we're

1368
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: not having it. He's the one who's out. He goes

1369
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: to Denver. Denver stinks and Seattle looks way better without

1370
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: him than with him. What'd you make of that whole

1371
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: scenario and how it played out in Seattle? Reportedly, Man Steve,

1372
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm really pro player in general, because the players are

1373
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: the ones out there risking CTE and ligaments and bones,

1374
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: and this is the most violent game on Earth. But

1375
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: at some point it's just becomes ridiculous. And what Russell

1376
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: Wilson wanted out in Seattle, what he got in Denver.

1377
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean his own office in Denver that's on like

1378
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: the second it's a floor above the players. It's on

1379
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: the same floor as the coaches. And he's telling players, Hey,

1380
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: I've got an open door. Are you a player? Are

1381
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: you a coach? And it ran amuck instantly. They were

1382
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: what five and twelve, So good luck if you get

1383
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks, right, he's gonna want X, Y

1384
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: and Z. But you gotta draw the line somewhere. You

1385
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: have to know who's in charge, who's the player. And

1386
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: good on Seattle for having a backbone. Good on John Schneider,

1387
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. They didn't probably even a year too late.

1388
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: They got a little risky there. They were really close

1389
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: to trade it into the Chicago Bears. It people in

1390
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: Chicago I was told they thought it was good as done.

1391
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: It was basically whatever you want. They didn't get it done.

1392
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: He played one more year in Seattle. Then they still

1393
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: got the deal that they wanted from Denver, which makes

1394
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: it to bring a full circle. It's just crazy to

1395
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: me if Green Bay is going to try to convince

1396
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: itself they can still win a Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers.

1397
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: You already kind of let this thing run amuck to

1398
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: this point where he's lying about his vaccination stay. I

1399
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: don't care if he's jabbed or not, but he wanted

1400
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: everybody to think he was and he wasn't and is

1401
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: carrying on lying to everybody. It's it's interesting, you know,

1402
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: talking about taking mushrooms with Joe Rogan and ayahuasca and

1403
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: it's it's very strange, and you want guys to be themselves.

1404
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: But to give him that seat at the table and

1405
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: trade for a Randall Cobb and then have that acquisition

1406
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: to hinder the development of another slot receiver, it does

1407
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: affect things on the field. So you know he's asking

1408
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: for five or six of these veterans back on the team.

1409
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: The Tounyans, Marcedes Lewis, al Nazard, Cob you. Somebody have

1410
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: to say, Aaron, you're not the GM like. We've got

1411
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: a team to build, We've got a team to coach.

1412
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: That's why I really do think they'll move forward with

1413
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,839
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. I think Green Bay's had enough, but we'll see.

1414
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: You never know, in this league, things could change. Tyler Dunn,

1415
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: thanks for spending some time with us. And but before

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01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: we go, how do we sign up for how do

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01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: we subscribe to Go Along t D Day? I appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: fellas go along td dot com and you can just

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Speaker 1: subscribe there to hop on the free list, the paylist,

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Speaker 1: and anything you want. Would love to have you all right,

1421
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: Thanks man, it's good talking to you. Steve Tasker, Josh Reid,

1422
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn, thanks for being with us. We'll be back

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01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: with One Bill's Live on Buffalo Bill's Radio right atter.

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01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: This welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker along

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01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: with Josh Reid, w IVB Sports director Channel four here

1426
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Thanks for coming on today. We got some

1427
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: stuff with It's a Friday, so we put the question out,

1428
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: you know, what do he want us to talk about?

1429
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: What questions you have that Josh and I might be

1430
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: able to we're getting some feedback on a tweet sheet.

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: Tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan's Moving System, the

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Speaker 1: official equipment moving and rental company of the Buffalo Bills.

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01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: How does the and this is from Jeremy says, how

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01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: does the salary cap work in the playoffs or the

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01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl to the super Bowl? Or rather, how do

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01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 1: the players get paid? And what does it count against

1437
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: if anything? It doesn't count against anything. There's no cap

1438
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: for the playoffs, and the the players in the NFL

1439
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: are played from a separate pool that the league pays.

1440
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: So everybody and everybody, you know, the quarterback, you know,

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01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes, all those guys get paid the

1442
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: same amount that Jamoke's like me used to get paid,

1443
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, not that I used to get paid, but

1444
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: guys on the team now who get paid. So they

1445
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: all get the same paycheck for the playoffs in the

1446
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and it comes, you know, Monday after the game,

1447
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: and it usually it doubles every step of the playoffs.

1448
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: And it's for what some of these guys make. It's

1449
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: not very much, although it's gone up significantly since I played,

1450
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: but when I played, it did make a difference for

1451
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: me and my family. It was a big It was

1452
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: a nice paycheck. It was a nice paycheck. Now I

1453
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 1: can only assume, I think it's safe to assume that

1454
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: these guys all have electronic banking now, right, you guys

1455
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 1: probably got the hardcore check Oh yeah, right, the actual Hey,

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01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: here's a novelope of the check out. Yeah, you know,

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it, but right, yeah, you walk

1458
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: up and she thumbs through the stack. Can't you yours?

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01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: Every Monday? That's how we go sixteen weeks a year. Yeah.

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01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: And then it was seventeen with the buye, and now

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01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: it's eighteen with seventeen games. Yeah, yeah, because now everybody

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01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: has never forget funny story. I don't even I don't

1463
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: even know what the numbers were. But you know, Jim

1464
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: was making megabucks, right, Kelly. And on a Monday, after

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01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: a game we win or whatever, I went over on

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Speaker 1: the way up to my meeting, I stopped off, got

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Speaker 1: my check and set it, set my playbook stuff down.

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01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch the game film. Jim sits next to

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01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: me and he grabs my paycheck, opens it up, looks

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01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: at that, looks at it, puts it back on the

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: thing and he crosses himself like, oh my gosh, I

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01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 1: can't believe you're you can That's he goes, I am

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01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: so lucky to be making what I made last he was.

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01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: He kind of thank thank the good Lord, thank the

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01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: Good Lord. A bob, I'm not making his paycheck. So yeah,

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01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: but that's how there's no salary cap for the playoffs

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01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: or the Super Bowl. You can everybody gets paid a

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01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: flat rate and it's set by the CBA, and it's

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's great for some guys, and it's like

1480
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: playing for free for other guys, just the way it works.

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01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: So that's where he goes from Jack on the tweet sheet,

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01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: what's your opinion on the Bills drafting Jackson Smith in Jigba,

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01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State wide receiver at twenty seven. I like his size, speed,

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01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: combo Ohio State has as much as much as I

1485
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: disliked him. He says, really has to put some Markey

1486
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver talent into the NFL lately. If not, who's

1487
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: better or a tight end? Maybe Jackson Smith in JIGBA.

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01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that much about him. I really don't.

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01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: I've got I'm keeping track of all these guys now,

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01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: He's one of the few that I watched a lot.

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: And I try to watch college football during the NFL season,

1492
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: but we're so wrapped up in what the Bills are

1493
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: doing and what's going on around the league that I

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01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: don't watch as much as i'd like. But Ohio State's

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01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: one of those teams that's on a lot. See do

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01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: get a chance to get a chance to see them

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01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: quite a bit. I'd tell you what if he's there

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01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, which I don't think he will be.

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01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: He's six one, two hundred and he's Yeah, he's a playmaker.

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01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: He's one of the top receivers in college football's he

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01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: may be there. He may be there, and he may

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01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: be a guy that the Bills like. And here's the

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01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: here's what I about these mock drafts. And we can

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01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: talk about a little mock draft stuff in a minute

1505
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: if we want to as well. It's gonna depend on

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01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: where the Bill's roster is at the time of the draft,

1507
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: when we don't know where that's gonna be. Just yet,

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01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: they got free agency to go through, so there's a

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01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: every chance they could sign somebody like you know, an O.

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01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: B J just for instance. They could sign Yeah, they

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01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 1: could talk to sign some one of these guys like wow,

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01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: plug him in. Let's go one of those guys which

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01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:34,440
Speaker 1: pushes a guy like Jackson Smith down. Yeah. So yeah

1514
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: that sure, if it's today, sure grab the guy will

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01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: take him. But right now we don't know how good

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01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 1: or bad the rest of the roster is gonna be.

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: That you might not get back into a corner with

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01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: a need instead of a want. Yeah, he's a guy,

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01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: like I said, I have a chance to see quite

1520
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: a bit in college. He can play. In fact, his

1521
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: old teammate was Gary Wilson, right, and he said that

1522
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: Smith at Jake but was the best receiver on that

1523
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: team two years ago in Ohio State. Right. So I mean,

1524
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: if that's the case, and he's there at twenty seven,

1525
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: and that's a that's no brand of the other receiver

1526
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 1: I like. Well, Jordan Addison, Yes, he's a he's a

1527
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 1: he's a good one from Yeah, he's a six foot

1528
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five pounders, he's a little bit

1529
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: more whispy. Um, jigbu is two hundred and this guy's

1530
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: at buck seventy five. So they're both really good. Um,

1531
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: but there, Yeah, it's it's gonna be where the roster

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01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: is at draft time. But certainly I think they'll be

1533
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: able to get one of these guys, you know, certainly

1534
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 1: one of the top five six receivers in the draft

1535
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: when they when they pick at twenty seven from Rick

1536
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. If the Bills allowed Tremaine Edmonds

1537
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: to walk this offseason, do you think there's any chance

1538
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: they might pursue Bobby Wagner who is reportedly being released

1539
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: by the Ram. He has been released by the Rams.

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01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: He might be too expensive, or he may be just

1541
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: a different guy. But yes, in fact, in our text

1542
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: loop here the guys in the control and they pop

1543
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 1: that up on our text loops. Hey, Bobby Wagner's gone

1544
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: from the Rams. He's an All Pro inside linebacker. He's

1545
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: a guy, um, but they dropped him because of his

1546
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: cap number. He's a winner, he is a winner. Yeah,

1547
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 1: that's a guy that would be no drop off from

1548
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 1: from Tremaine Edmonds to Bobby Wagner at all, and they'd

1549
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: come with different gifts, no question. But Bobby Wagner can

1550
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: go and he makes guys around him better as well.

1551
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: He may be one of the few guys who could

1552
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: possibly you could make an argument being an upgrade from Tremaine. Um.

1553
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: Not too many of them, but he would be one

1554
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: of them where you could make that argument. He when

1555
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: we're getting ready to head out to to LA when

1556
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: they when they were playing the Rams, and that was

1557
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,480
Speaker 1: one of the guys. Immediately that you started talking about

1558
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner. Watched that side of the ball, Watch how

1559
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: good he is. Um, I'd tell you what, I'd think that.

1560
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: I think he would be a great addition to that defense. Um.

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01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: Now I say that because long term, Tremaine Edmonds is

1562
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: still it's probably still beneficial to have him over Bobby Wagner.

1563
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: But right now is your championship window, right, so you

1564
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: have to me you're worried about the next couple of years. Yeah,

1565
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: to me, that's and that's what Bobby Wagner is. And

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01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: let's all keep in mind he uh, he was a

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01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: teammate of von Miller's. And we all know von Miller

1568
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: enjoys recruiting. He said he has all but said it right,

1569
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 1: von Miller enjoys recruiting and wants to be a GM

1570
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 1: one day. So maybe he'll put his recruiting hat on

1571
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: and and and talk to h talk to Bobby was

1572
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: going to be thirty three this season, so by the

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01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: time the season rolls around, but certainly that's a guy

1574
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 1: that can really still play it and play at a

1575
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: high level. This next question from the tweet sheet, this

1576
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: is for you. What are your top five locker room

1577
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: guys you like to interview and maybe stuff that tells

1578
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: you stuff that doesn't always go on the record. Top

1579
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: five interview guys in the locker room. Um, that's that's

1580
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: a great question. Um. I would say I would definitely

1581
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: put Micah Hide up at the top of that list.

1582
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: Micah's just he's very honest. You always get a in

1583
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: depth answer, you know, especially if it's an off the

1584
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: record thing he'll give you. You can tell that he's

1585
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: thinking about what you're asking. It's not because there are

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01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: guys that you can tell when you're asking them that

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01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: they've flipped it off and they're giving you the canned

1588
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 1: answer that no matter if the camera lights on or off,

1589
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: they they're just gonna give you what to get you

1590
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 1: out of their stall and make you leave. Mica Mike

1591
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: is definitely one of those guys that's that's just always

1592
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: great to talk to, informative, always has, you know, always

1593
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: has you feel like you're learning something when you talk

1594
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: to Micah Hide. Now that's something I always appreciate because

1595
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: a lot of time times you ask a question because yep,

1596
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: maybe you already know the answer to it. But then

1597
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: there are a lot of times that you're asking a

1598
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: question because quite frankly, you don't know. And that's good,

1599
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: That's what you want because you're curious as to what

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01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: goes on. You know, why this decision meant was made,

1601
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: or why he did this or that. But yeah, Micah

1602
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: hyde Is is definitely up there. Jordan Phillips is another one.

1603
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillipsum is great. You know, to talk about another

1604
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: guy who can give you a really good insight, I

1605
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: get Mitch Morris. Mitch Morris is a good one. Um.

1606
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins was named the media Player Good Guy of

1607
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 1: the Year. Dion is you know, maybe not as he's informative,

1608
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but Dion is one of those

1609
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:56,440
Speaker 1: guys that he's always got that smile, he's got that personality,

1610
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: he's fun loving, he's just he's always there and he

1611
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: like Mitch Morris and like Michael. Obviously Michael was hurt

1612
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: this year. But those two guys win or lose. Those

1613
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: couple of guys I mentioned win or lose, they are

1614
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: at their lockerstall after the game and they talked to

1615
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: the media. Good stuff. Well, thanks Josh, appreciate it, and

1616
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: thanks for everybody chiming in on the tweet sheet. Appreciate it.

1617
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, come back to wrap things

1618
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: up right after this. Steve Tasker, Josh Reid, One Bills

1619
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: Live on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives,

1620
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: Steeve Tasker, Josh Reid, winding things up here. Um, we

1621
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: were going to talk a little bit about the mock draft.

1622
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: Last ones. I've saw, you know, coming down the pipe

1623
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 1: that two of them. I saw lately, o Cyrus Torrence

1624
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: the tackle going to the Buffalo Bills. I saw that twice.

1625
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: And then in the second round I saw Steve Avila,

1626
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: who's a guard from I think TCCU. Um, they haven't

1627
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: the Bills taken him. One draft and this is this

1628
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: the NFL dot Com Draft. There was a three round

1629
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 1: mock draft, which is you know, it's insane, which means

1630
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: this is exactly how it's not going to work out.

1631
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: They had the Bills trading up in the third round

1632
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: or no in the first round, trading up to number

1633
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: twenty with Seattle going from twenty seven to twenty and

1634
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: get Jordan Addison the wider. I like him a lot,

1635
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: So that's interesting to think about. Yeah, I love the

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01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I just I think that's a that's a

1637
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: need for the I mean, I know that we hear

1638
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 1: Brandon all the time say we don't draft need, we

1639
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: draft value. Yeah, you don't want to do, but man,

1640
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: at some point, you'd like to see them get somebody

1641
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: on the other side of Diggs that they can kind

1642
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: of take some of the pressure off of Gabe Davis

1643
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: a little bit, let him settle back into his role.

1644
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 1: One of the things that's been a kind of name

1645
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: that has been linked to the Bills a ton is

1646
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Bijan Robinson, the running back out of Texas. What do

1647
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 1: you think the first rounder, first round running back here?

1648
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: If it is twenty seven, still first round? Yeah? I

1649
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: just to me, wow, I mean to me, what's that?

1650
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: What's that mean for Cook? Right? Right? I mean, what's

1651
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: that true? What's that mean for Naim Hines? If we're

1652
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: talking about you know him, maybe have an expanded role

1653
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: next year after a full season, you know, full off season.

1654
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: In the playbook, Cook going into the year two, man

1655
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: I spending number twenty seven on a running back is uh,

1656
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: what's done? So yeah, before we go, what's what's going on?

1657
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: So we'll see you there. Yeah, we'll see you there,

1658
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: will be there all week, and then when we come back,

1659
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,959
Speaker 1: we do a thirty and thirty. We do different prospect

1660
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: packages leading up to the draft, and that Brownie now

1661
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: will be Brownie, will be remote. On Monday, we'll be

1662
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 1: in Indy. We'll be here on Monday and in Indy thereafter.

1663
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Have a great weekend, everybody,