WEBVTT - Must Win Era w/ Derek Chavez 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:06.920 Hello, Hello, hello friends. 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:15.720 Or should I say anyway? What's up? Everyone? It's Devin Simone. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.439 Tims the Season, and I am Davon Rogers and this 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.040 is MTV's official challenge podcast, My. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.920 So jolly day. I should have brought some jingle bells. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.160 Okay, next week, look jingle jangle bells? 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:28.760 Right, jingle jangle? 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.800 How are you feeling about this week's episode? 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:33.080 Day? 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.600 I feel good about this episode. This one was hard, 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.800 you know, having to choose, well not choose, but Derek 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.880 or Corey. Like I've been rooting. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.199 For both of them, and you know, we always talk 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.839 about how much we want Corey to win it and 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.239 get his win, and then there's Derek and it's like, oh, 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.400 I want you to it, so it's like, ah, this one, 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:57.080 this one was rough, but nothing compares to watching them 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.000 have to drive off that cliff. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:00.120 Would you have done that? 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.160 Like, if that was you, if you were back on 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.440 the show, how would you have felt? Would you have 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.320 been excited by that? Or would you have been like hell. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:08.679 No, not have been terrified. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.040 I would have done it, but I would have been 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.640 absolutely terrified, Like you would have taken some TJ would 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:12.880 have been. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.760 Like come on, Davon, don't quit, you know, I don't 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:15.280 like quitters. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:16.880 Like I would have had to hear the whole monologue 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:18.920 and then I would have done it for sure. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.040 Or yeah, what about you? 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.200 I mean, I love that we saw Tory ping on 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.600 herself butt then that like not literally loved but at 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.400 the end when she was out of she got out 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:27.880 of the water and she was huffing and puffing and 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.240 she was just so out of it, and they were like, 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:31.399 are you going. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.360 To the bathroom? She said yeah, like while she was 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:35.319 sitting there. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.960 I feel like Squad tells you this, the like raw 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.760 emotion probably makes a fear and anxiety and all of that. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.319 From doing that, I would have been terrified. I probably 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.160 would have wet my pants. But I also would have 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.080 been really excited to do it. But I also would 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.680 have been thinking about the Burger King burgers. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:53.560 I'm not gonna lie man. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:58.400 I've been craving a Whopper Junior since we watched this episode. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.640 I cannot wait, like I'm in. I'm in. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.680 Shout out to Burger King for making this a possibility 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.960 that is wild, that is. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.360 So wild that they pulled this off. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.720 Yeah yeah, And and the entire cats got the burger king, 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:15.359 So that. 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:16.080 Was pretty cool. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.000 Yeah, that would even really effed up if they didn't 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:19.200 do it. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.600 Man, Yeah, just salivating. You been eating this whole time. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.320 You just jumped out of a flame broiled car, and 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.800 like you don't get a frame boiled burger that. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:31.360 At least. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.200 Jordan Torri pulled out the wind. Are we surprised? 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.120 No, I mean definitely Jordan made it look easy. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:40.840 They both killed it. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.760 But I feel like with the swimming, to me, the 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.120 swimming thing is always hard because I kind of feel 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.600 like I never know what to expect, you know, like 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.120 who's gonna crush a swimming thing? So like for that 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.200 portion of it, I'm not surprised, But I also kind 0:02:58.240 --> 0:02:59.560 of like, if you told me at the start of this, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.680 who did I think was gonna win? I honestly couldn't 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:02.440 have really told you. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.919 I actually was putting my money on Jordan one hundred percent, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.079 but then also I had my. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:12.280 Money on Rachel. So when Rachel, I was like, oh. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.400 Like Tori is really out here in these challenge streets, 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.440 like making a name for her. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.040 She wants to be on Mount Rushmore. 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.600 We're seeing a theme though, and no shade to Rach 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.799 but this is ain't the first time we've seen Rach 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.120 be a little slower on a puzzle. Remember the bat Cave. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.200 We're starting to see a theme now. I've never hot 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.720 wired a car, so I don't know how I would 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:35.320 have done. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:35.960 With that either. 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:36.920 I pleaded the fifth. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.440 Wait a minute, wait, I darn, wait a minute. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.840 Really, I've been delivered. I've been delivered. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:44.480 That was da day. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.720 Now, that's kind of bads. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.600 We learning something, We learned something new every day on 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.080 What we also. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.800 Learned is everyone finally found the what can we call 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.400 it the glitch in Kyland. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.680 The swimming And I hate that because I didn't want 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.200 people to know, like, you know, it was a weakness. Yes, 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.880 I wanted them to think of what you said, what 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.720 I said when you said that's what I was trying 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:16.000 to say. 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.760 I didn't know. I didn't know we can though, we can? 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.760 Uh yeah, yeah, continue, Sorry, I didn't know where you 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:24.359 were going with that. 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:29.440 Yeah, no, I on one hand, I didn't. I don't 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:30.279 love them finding glitch. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.560 But on the other hand, it humanizes him, like I 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:37.000 do you know, yeah, I think it humanizes him. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:38.080 Yeah that's fair. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.839 Yeah, yeah, I thought he was going to do really 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:42.320 really well. 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.800 I didn't know that he struggled with swimming. But who 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.760 am I to judge? Because you put me out there, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.400 good luck and God bless right. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.680 I would have been a pulling a car up, just floating, like, 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.720 don't even put five hundred meters. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.640 I can't. Yeah, I would have just been put send. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.440 Me in, just drop me in the water, and then 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:00.520 time up. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.440 Yeah, just go ahead, take your time. You guys can 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.720 go ahead with the next person. I'll get to short 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.760 of it, like it's fine, I'm already traumatized. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:09.600 What are we talking about? 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.360 Yeah, So then we have our losers. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:13.800 I don't like to call them that, but the people 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:18.679 who didn't win. Right, we have Derek and we have Kara. Now, Kara, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:24.560 she gets a penalty next challenge, souls Paul's no, she 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.520 gets a penalty next challenge and still. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:28.599 Make it the thing. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.280 Tell Derek like, hey, you can go ahead, and like 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.680 that's card. I don't know if that's smarter or I 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:35.120 don't know. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.000 It's either beautiful or crazy. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:37.760 I don't know. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.880 I'm gonna go it beautiful. I think it's exceptional. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:44.440 I think if and hopefully when she pulls out of this, 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.240 I think it'll be one of the most beautiful things 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:47.600 we've seen. 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.960 It'll go down as a moment and challenge history. 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.960 I think if she doesn't, for some reason pull out 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:58.599 of this, it'll feel very reminiscent of Jordan's kill cards, ah, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.120 but not as visually dramatic, but kind of you get 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.040 what I'm saying, like where you just tallied something else 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.760 onto yourself that you didn't necessarily have to do. But 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.480 I have faith that she's going to come out of it, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.320 although I don't know who's losing next challenge, like we 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.880 have nothing but talented women the time in this game. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.920 Fact, yeah I don't. I don't know. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.240 But if she, like I agree, if she does pull 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.760 this off, ooh, Kara, you a bad, such and such 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:24.360 a girl. 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.599 Shut your mouth. Yeah you are bad. Mamajamma, Oh my goodness. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:33.159 Okay, let's get into this elimination m hm all right, 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:34.720 So I can't lie to you. 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.880 I probably would have performed this exactly the way Corey 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.040 did because my mind would have been on I need 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:41.760 to get all of these bricks over here. I have 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.560 to get them over here immediately. However, watching it, and 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.240 that's why it's so good to If you're going on 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:53.240 the challenge watch the show, because you can literally steal strategy. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.679 Like the way Derek positioned those pieces before he brought 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.920 them all over was pure genius. 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:02.880 Like it was so good. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.720 But you know, sometimes we get into these eliminations and 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.680 we get frantic and it's like, Okay, let me get 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.799 everything over here and then I'll figure everything out later. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.000 And Derek was like, no, let me work smarter, not harder, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.880 And I thought it was so good. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:13.440 What about you? 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.200 I think it was both parties leaning into their strengths, 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.880 and not that they're not both well rounded competitors. They are, 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.520 but I think if you were to ask Corey and 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.000 I feel like this was sort of, you know, intimated 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.080 when we had him on the podcast recently. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.560 He knows he's strong, like he knows. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.240 That he can he can push through with some force, 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.560 and so I think in a moment like that, sort 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.800 of almost like a fight or flight, you lean into 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.800 your strength. I think with Derek coming in, he knows 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.840 that he's calm under pressure, right, Like, he knows that 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.000 that's when he can really tap into the strength of 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.440 his mind and figuring things out, and so I think 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.440 that's exactly what he did. And in this particular instance, 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.160 it prevailed. It's just like when Josh tried to lean 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.320 into his strength of endurance when it was not an 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.360 endurance race, it was a timed thing, and yet that 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.680 didn't work out as well. We still love Josh very much, 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.440 but I think it was just a matter of we. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:10.880 Saw both of them leading to their strength. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.200 But it also goes back to this theme that I know, 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.560 I sound like a record hopefully top hits, but you 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.400 know what I'm going to say. Where we've it's been 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:23.360 so interesting this season watching how these competitors compete because 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.760 in so many of the eliminations we see two very 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.200 different Like we almost always see one that is this 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.800 sort of thinking ahead of time strategy, right, and then 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.320 we see one that's a doer strategy right where I 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.480 just start moving and then I do. And in the 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.559 earlier part of the season, it seemed like the overthinkers 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.120 were not were losing right like the people that were 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.520 kind of But now there's been this shift in the game, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.280 and I wonder, I wonder if that's kind of how 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.800 the game works in a way, like as there's this 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.640 shift in the game in the last few episodes or 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.880 the last few weeks. It's the people that are thinking 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:03.200 through the strategy in their elimination that are winning, not 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:04.000 the doers. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.240 Yeah, and that's gonna be so interesting to see in 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:08.400 that final. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:10.160 Right. 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.920 Right, all right, Now we know there was no chamber 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:19.280 this go round because Jordan one Derek loss, which then 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.040 means the only target left was in fact our boy Corey. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:30.400 Derek took out Corey. Now Derek selects Jenny, Rachel and Kara. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.199 That absolutely stacked. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:35.559 They should all get medals. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.880 Speaking of which, let's go into the gold stars and 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.200 the timeouts, and you know, I there we go. I'm 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.600 gonna pull a Davon. There we go this time, there 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.520 we go. Okay, I'm just because we're so far in, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.320 I'm gonna pull a Davon. First of all, I want 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:57.480 to give a separate honorable mentions to Derek and just 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.600 what he achieved in this elimination. I think it was 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.679 except optional, beautifully done, sharing the story of a sister. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.200 I also want to give an honorable mention to Kara 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:12.040 and her nominating herself and taking that pressure off of Derek, 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.439 especially when the stakes are so high at this point. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.439 The maturity we have seen from her over the years, 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.040 but particularly in the season, I hope she wears it 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.200 as a badge of honor. It's so beautiful to see, 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.240 and she already had millions of people that looked up 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.840 to her. I feel like this just unlocks a whole 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.320 new level of respect, regardless of what the outcome of 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:30.040 this game is. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:31.800 I hope she sees. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.480 This as a offer yet one of her great moments. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.680 Like well, just in general, even the way she started 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.600 to work with Laurel towards the middle of the season. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:39.440 In the end, right, they. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.960 Got off to a awful start and they don't need 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.200 to be friends, But even towards the middle and the end, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.960 before Laurel left the conversation, in the way they could 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.080 still kind of work together. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.080 I thought was nice to see the way we saw Kara. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.320 Move towards working with Corey, you know, just these like 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.240 relationships and bonds, you know, and then her offering herself 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.679 up like shout out to Kara. But overall, I want 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.199 to give my gold stars. I want to give gold 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:08.680 medals to Rachel, to Tory, to Jenny, to Kara, and 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:13.600 to Michelle, because they are bad asses. I could not 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.120 be more proud of them, just as humans, but as 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.839 women running the game, they are so talented in all 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.640 the ways, and I love that they all have different backgrounds, 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.520 you know. We have some who are single, some who 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.400 a relationships, some who are as a parent, you know, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.400 like some or who are pet parents, like all these 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:35.840 different things and really just so killing it and crushing it, 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.600 and they've all shared moments of vulnerability throughout the season, 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.080 like just so much respect, ladies, round of applause to you, 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.080 really really really good job. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:45.560 And well done. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.680 And I hope anybody watching the show is inspired as 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:48.760 I've been watching them. 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:49.840 Who gets your gold Star? 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.160 So honorable mentions. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.480 Jordan and Tory just for completely dominating that swimming challenge. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.840 I think eating is one of them things, but swimming 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.720 is definitely one of the ones that take a lot 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.120 of people out. So definitely honorable mentions. But my goal 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.520 star is actually going to go to Cheyenne. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.480 Really okay, I like it. She was tearing Corey. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.960 Up on that face. She's said that you'd have been 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.079 there way too long. That don't come home and lose her. Okay, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:27.120 But I love that their their dynamic, their co parenting dynamic, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.520 and it was good seeing her on our challenge screens 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.000 and you know it was it was just good. So 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.640 my goal star is going to go to Cheyenne because 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.880 we love we love a good comedic relief to the show. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.440 We absolutely love it, and we love that she has 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.440 just been holding it down like that, which is, you know, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.520 not easy, not easy to do. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:48.959 So definitely shout out. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:54.720 Okay, who's gonna get your time out of the week. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.160 Y'all know, I'm. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.040 Always gonna hold down the fort for Josh, but I'm 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.840 always gonna hold down for it for Kyland as well. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.000 And so I am putting Corey, Jordan. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.920 And Nanners in time out for trying to scare my 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.320 friend about this final. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:15.320 Okay, but you be fair. I know that they were 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.920 trying to do tactic, but look, they are not wrong. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.600 You get so it is it is the twelfth day 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.880 of Hell. I've never been to Hell, but i'd imagine. 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:27.360 And yeah, there's a brief moment it's like euphoria. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.040 Then it's oh my god, I'm gonna die. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.360 And then when you when you finish it, you know, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.520 I'm sure it's even better if you finished first place. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.240 I obviously wouldn't know about that, but in. 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.400 General, when you finish it, then you go back up 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.560 to a euphoria of just such a pride that like 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.560 probably one of the greatest moments of your life. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:47.120 But man, at that start, it is scary. It is. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.320 And shout out to the editors because they kept going 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.480 back like someone would say something and then they go 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.240 back to Kyland. If someone says something else and they 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.480 go back to Kyland and my fore friend, you know, 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:57.800 you get that look on your face when you're in 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.920 trouble or when you gotta go boo boo. 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:01.600 Like look he had on his face. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:03.640 I mean, and he. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.360 Might be having to do it out in the wilderness 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:06.800 and a final so that's. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.040 A fair face to make. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:10.559 That is your fire. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:17.160 My time out of this episode, I honestly, I don't 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.360 think there is one. I mean, if anything, Burger King 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.360 might get one for not sending us some food, but 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.760 other than that, I know, I mean, it's okay because 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.480 I really am going to order something like as soon 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.520 as we get out of this. But I'm just really 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:32.720 proud of everyone getting this far. I'm proud of every 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.280 the way everyone's competed the game in general. It's been 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.760 so fun to watch and well done and yeah, I'm 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.120 I'm nobody gets see. Wow, I've really become DEVI. They 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.880 say you become who you spend time with. So be careful, y'all, 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.440 because we love growth. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.960 We love love, love, love love growth, and even more 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.320 than that, we love this person that is coming to 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.520 talk with us today. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.680 I'm so excited for you guys to hear this interview. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.720 So sit back, relax, and go get your snacks because next. 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.240 Up we have Derek Chravis. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:06.840 What else should they get, Devin, We should get some. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.200 Pick up a whopper, Junior. I'm literally about to order 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:10.680 one right now, right. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:20.720 Now, super excited about this episode. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:21.760 Oh my goodness. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.280 We have what Devin and I like to call who 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.479 Devin and I likes to call the Silent Assassin. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.240 We have Derek Chravis here, ladies and gentlemen. Give it up, 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:32.160 Give it up, give it up. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:41.520 Hello, I'm digging that nickname. I've never been called that before, Like, uh, yeah. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:42.960 You are the silent Assassin over here. 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.480 To be honest, I don't remember ever calling you that either. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.120 I feel like, Dad, we definitely did. Okay, I don't remember, 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.440 but no, I really don't. But it's not that it's 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.560 not valid because it definitely is. 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:56.920 You are killing it this season. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.160 We are not supposed to have favorites and we don't, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.720 but man, if we did, you are. I'm pulling for 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.120 you so much this season. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:08.200 So proud of you. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.480 Real talk though, before we get into this, did you 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.080 bring the wig because we saw so much. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.000 Of your alter ego that he's a favorite. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.280 We want to know if she's making appearance or how 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:20.760 she's doing. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.200 Oh, she's great. She has some sisters too. She has Bob, 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:25.440 she has a little Bob sister. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.560 Her name is Okay, and then she has her blondeie 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.080 sis Tiffany as well. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:32.800 So you guys would love. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.720 It be seeing them in the future and a few yeah, 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.080 I feel like you'll still be seeing them this season 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:38.680 at some point. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.200 Ooh ooh by Be and tiff Okay, we leave a 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:43.640 family reunion, we do? 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:49.240 You definitely do what Tarara's wedding her funeral just pop up. 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.080 Not too long ago too, it did, I don't it 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.680 did and they were replaying it recently. And then also 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.680 you know that whole ariana Grande Cynthia a revo thing 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.880 holding space that's like trending and meme. Why did someone 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.320 tweet me talking about their holding space for Tamara the 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:09.920 Whigs funeral, so shut out to all the Challenge listeners 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.240 and fans and fam who are so honoring her legacy 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:15.720 gone but not forgotten. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.040 I miss you, d Money. 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.240 We had so much fun back in the day on 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.000 the show, and watching you has been so much fun. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.639 How has it been watching yourself so far this season? 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.960 It's crazy because like watching All Stars and seeing all 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.239 that play back, it's the same, but like not in 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.960 a sense that the flagship. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.680 Show is just what we were brought up on, Like. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:38.840 This is this is it? 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.080 This is like it's I don't know, it's different, and 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.600 it's just such a good feeling. And I love just 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.680 to bring back like the whole nostalgia of like us 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.160 pranking each other and having parties and like fucking get 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.080 Lynn and having fake fights. You know, Like it's just 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.520 so much fun to like try and bring that back 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.119 to the show. So like being able to watch it 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.920 and then then highlighting funny parts like the wigs. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:00.960 And the strip person all that kind of stuff. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.080 It's just it makes me feel good because it's like 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:04.840 this is what I what I always wanted to do 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:05.600 on the Challenge. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.960 It's fucking awesome, just to see see it come back 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:08.199 like this. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.400 They want to see you pussy popping on a handstand 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.520 like you did over Devin on a couch for his birthday, 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.960 which was how that should have been the clue to 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:18.960 everyone in the house. 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:20.560