1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: It was Matt Castle and Tom going back and forth. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't around for that. Oh my god, what happened? 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: They was going back and forth pranking each other. So 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: I think Matt Field Tom Carr for all of these 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: little bubbles. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: The peanuts peanuts. 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 3: So Tom took his tires and hit him everywhere, and 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: so he had three tires and still was looking for one. 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 4: It was in a bubble. So Bill finally like, look, guys, 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 4: just stop screwing around. 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to Games with Names presented by Duncan. I'm Julian gentleman. 12 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: They're Jack and Kyler, and we are on a mission 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: to find the greatest game of all time. And on 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: today's episode, we are covering the week twelve, twenty twelve 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: Patriots versus Jets on Thanksgiving aka the butt Fumble Game 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: with two times Super Bowl champ, legendary nose tackle and 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: grill Master Ben swelled Fork. And we're talking how much 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: we hated the Jets when we know Jets coming up, 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: We're like, if the Jets he and Randy Moss used 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: to talk about it practice anything other than football, And 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: what the best college football team of all time is? 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 4: There's no other college football team can say they have 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: a brotherhood. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: We have. I don't care who you are, and we're 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: answering your pressing questions about the twenty twenty five NFL 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: season and this week's Chill Zone, brought to you by 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: Coors Light. You gotta stick around to the very end 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: games with names. The production of iHeartRadio November twenty second, 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: twenty twelve, MetLife Stadium, Meadowlands, New Jersey, Brendan Moores but 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: meets mart San Chance's face. Vince Wilfork just manhandled the Jets. 31 00:01:45,040 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: This is the We're gonna get Vincent here in a minute, 32 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: but first we need to hit the dunkin pre game guys, 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: and we're fueled up on Duncan I got. You might 34 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: also notice we're in a completely different set. We're in 35 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: a Duncan. We're in the Duncan nuthouse. Yes, that's right, 36 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: Mad donuts, if you had so far, the limit does 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: not exist. I'm clearing two to four a day. What 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: kind of what kind of donuts? 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 5: You know? 40 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 6: My jelly man, love the jellies. Jel the jellies, that's 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 6: my go to. Can't beat an old fashioned. 42 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 7: We gotta explain what the hell we're doing here before you. 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 7: We're in Boston. We took over this huge house. There's 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 7: duncan stuff like crazy. It's nuthouse with creeping out on social. 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 7: Check it out on social. All the pictures. There's pool tables, 46 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 7: there's a pool, there's basketball. 47 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: There's a wheel, a wheel pool table. The worst thing. 48 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: I'm most excited. Look to the wheel. 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 6: We so we We had a little meeting with the 50 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 6: Airbnb folks in the the realtors before this, and I 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 6: just said, what do you want the decor them? What 52 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 6: are the ben affleck? That's all I said. They look 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 6: what they came up with. Yeah, they got dunk Kings everywhere. 54 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 6: Jackson rocking. Oh my gosh, I'm sleeping in my dunk 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 6: Kings outfit. I'm swimming in my mon kings off it 56 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 6: FLA kind of guy though, same, Oh I agree. 57 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: Am I the only Ben the Ben Rider around here. 58 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a Casey, I'm a Ben Boy. Come 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: on Team Casey and we're shooting a bunch of man 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: content every content. He's just twenty four to seventy. 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 7: Jack's living his dream of actually being data and Kyler. 62 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 6: He is if I my TikTok voice one more time. 63 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 6: I think Kyler might throw me out the window. Forty 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 6: one six seven. 65 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 7: Sorry, that's the best thing about the Nutthouse, Jack, Yeah, 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 7: is I have for some reason, I have like the primary, oh, 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 7: for some reason, and it's huge. My closet has a closet, 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 7: and I've got a private sunroom invitationally only. 69 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: So we'll see if you behave yourself. What are we 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: ending this week on? We're in this week with the 71 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: live show busted against twenty. We got some fun people coming, dude, 72 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: We we got a spectrum. Yeah, we've kind of dialed 73 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: in guests. 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 7: We have some big names, patriots, not just patriots, Patriots, 75 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 7: not just It's gonna be fun. 76 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: It's gonna be wid. It's gonna be a fun night out. 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: I'm and just remember I think we have like thirty 78 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: more tickets. Yeah, out of five thousand and thirty. Yeah, 79 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: ticketmasters dot com. Go get them before I'm just telling 80 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: you it's about to close. Go get tickets. You know 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: how to buy them, ticketmaster dot com, ticketmaster dot com. 82 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: It's gonna be hell. 83 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 6: Linked in our bio, linking our bio, and I gotta say, 84 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 6: not only are we going to be there, not even 85 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 6: only of our sweet guests gonna be there. Not only 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 6: is the whole nuthouse nation fandom gonna be there. We 87 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 6: got merch baby, Oh, we got merged drop new Merger 88 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 6: especially designed by the boys. 89 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: We put we we have them the last emerged now 90 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: and can a little taste of it at Morgan Water. 91 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: He did it. It's a little warm up. Yeah. I 92 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: was up there in the three hundreds going Robbig robb 93 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: leaving the Broadway girls a loon. That was great. 94 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 7: There's more coming. Check our socials is gonna be a 95 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 7: ton of stuff happening. 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: It's gonna be awesome. The live show. Besides the studio, 97 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: what's been your favorite room in the nut House? So? 98 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: I like the pool area because that little yeah slap shops, 99 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: these guys saut sauce toss. 100 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 7: Gosh, I can't wait for Rob to hit the sauce toss. 101 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 7: Cosby out there going toe to toe. My blade is 102 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 7: Crosby right, no lefty sticks. So for hockey people, we 103 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 7: don't know how crazy that is. So I had to 104 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 7: go to hockey sport monkey. You gotta go to a 105 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 7: hockey store sticks. 106 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: Do I tell you what happened there? Jewels or in 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: New England. There's one on every street. Jack, I tell 108 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: you the guy that the worker there. He comes up 109 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: to me. 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 6: I'm like checking out all this uh sort of baseball gear, 111 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 6: looking at a mizuoo Mitt you know whatever. 112 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: He goes, you're joining the Pat McAfee show, like Bro, 113 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: And then my same day and then he goes, oh 114 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: the other guy. 115 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 5: Bro. 116 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: I was like, Bro, I'm just trying to find a stick. 117 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: I was trying to get a deal. Were trying to 118 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: him for nothing? Didn't budge though, and a stick? Yeah, 119 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: all in an afternoon. Gotta start somewhere. It's gonna be 120 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: a heck a week, Evince, great episode. Welcome to the Nuthouse, 121 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: Boston editioned big V. I got to ask, we're going 122 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: over the butt fumble game Jets versus Patriots on Thanksgiving 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: Week twelve of the twenty twelve season. In one sentence, 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: Big V, why this game butt fumble? I mean butt fumble? 125 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 2: I mean. 126 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: That, you know when that happened, honestly to be to 127 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: be completely honest, like I had no idea, like the 128 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: everything that came from it, Like I didn't know it 129 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: was gonna get blowed up, Like I had no idea. 130 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: What was going to happen, like because I didn't think 131 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: much of it. You know, when you're playing a game, 132 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 4: it's like whatever, okay, fumble whatever, you know. But after 133 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: the game and once you start hearing everybody and seeing 134 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: it on TV and people making the big deal, I'm like, 135 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: holy crap. So so you're telling me I'm part of 136 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: history of So there's but fumble Wikipedia, so like that's me, 137 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: you know, So that play. The crazy thing about that 138 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: play is, you know, being a defensive liignment. 139 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 2: I had a lot. 140 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: Of keys in playing in games, right, and it's a 141 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: lot of it. It's like feel. I can tell you something, 142 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: but for a player, it's about feel, Like when you 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: run routes. It's a feeling you have. Yeah, I know 144 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: he's sitting here, but I know what I have to get. 145 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: It's a feel you know how far away he is, 146 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: you know if the ball when it's gonna come where 147 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: it's gonna be. So on that play, Nick didn't come 148 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: directly at me, Brandon didn't come directly at me. So 149 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: I'm sitting here like, okay, what is this? I got 150 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: both of them. So it's like that's why you kind 151 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: of see me like in the middle, like fortunately, because 152 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: I didn't get a clear blocking scheme from him. So 153 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 4: it's like Nick was thinking one thing, Brandon was thinking 154 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: one thing, and it's like, okay, they coming together to 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: go somewhere else. So I was like, okay, what kind 156 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: of block is this? So that's why I didn't attack, 157 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: because I didn't know what kind of block it was. 158 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: And that's why once I kind of saw in the 159 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: midst of all of that, I'm all. We always talked 160 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: fight pressure with pressure. Either way, I could have went, 161 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: you know, opposite of it, but fight pressure with pressure 162 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: and that you know, And that's what caused the butt 163 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: FuMB because I went to press it because now at 164 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 4: that point, I understand, Okay, the ball is going to 165 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: hit over here, and this is where my pressure is. 166 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: I need to squeeze this gap because I'm thinking about 167 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 4: my defensive end and my lineback. It's like, okay, I 168 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: got to squeeze this gap and make a little smaller 169 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 4: for him, because you know, I kind of got caught 170 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: and with my shoulders. So once I squeezed in the 171 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 4: gap and it happened, like I said, I didn't realize 172 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: until really after the game. It was it was just 173 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 4: a normal another play for me, you know. So I 174 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 4: didn't really think much of it until it started getting 175 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: all all the attention. I'm like, holy crap. I didn't 176 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 4: feel bad though, well it is what it is at 177 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 4: that point. 178 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: But how crazy was your phone text messages after? 179 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Like it was blowing up about eighty 180 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 4: text messages right, phone calls. 181 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is watching and we're not thinking. 182 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, this Thanksgiving, we're trying to get in, 183 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 4: get back so we can relax in time with the family. 184 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: Woo woove, Like. 185 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: I don't got time to ask something a million text messages, 186 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: you know, Like, but once it's a guy home the 187 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: next day come and all that and the replays, the replays, 188 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, hole, le crap, this is going to be 189 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 4: something big, not for them, but it's just like in 190 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 4: generating football, you know, and it took off, like but 191 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: I can honestly tell you, like in that moment. People 192 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: don't understand in the midst of a game and what 193 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: we have to go through and how fast we have 194 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 4: to process, and especially me being a defensive alignment, like 195 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 4: you know, I'm always doubled, I'm always fighting guys, So 196 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: I have to make decisions in milliseconds, like you know, 197 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: it's just I have to make ten, five to ten 198 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 4: decisions in that millisecond, you know. So people don't understand 199 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: how how hard it is to kind of understand, Okay, 200 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: this happened, This happened, This happened, and that's it's not 201 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 4: even a second went by now, you know, without it. 202 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: That's the thing that people don't understand. Like fans can 203 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: watch it on TV and like I could have done this, 204 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: you know, I would have did I'm like, no, it's 205 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: not that easy, buddy, It's not that easy. You know. 206 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: Ernie Adams, we just had them on recently and my 207 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: overall sorry, my nipple just came out represent trying to 208 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: get more views. That's right, you know I had to. 209 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 8: I had to wear them, yes, war, Yes, sir. 210 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: I were talking about the reason, you know why Tom 211 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: was so good was just processing, you know, and and 212 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 2: and that's processing is everything. Everyone talks about playing fast, 213 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: but that only happens through experience and knowing your scheme, right, 214 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: big V Is this the greatest game of all time? No? No? 215 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: What is? Oh? No? 216 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: I mean, man, if I had to take one game 217 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: for myself, you know, I love the ALC Championship game 218 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 4: against the Baltimore Ravens. I think it was I think 219 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: it was twenty twelve. I think where I started the 220 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: game with like a sack and a half, I mean 221 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: right off bat and it was it was a game 222 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: where Raid Rice the third down, third and inches, you know, 223 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: I stopped him for a loss and then came right 224 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 4: back to fourth down pressure on Flacco. 225 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: I think that's twenty twelve. 226 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: I can't remember, but to me that game because the 227 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,359 Speaker 4: night before I read I read the book The Assassin, 228 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: Jack Tatum his book, and that book got me so 229 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: fired up to play. What did in it just the 230 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 4: mentality of him, you know, and just hearing how he 231 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: approached the game, not only him, but the Raider themselves defensively, 232 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: how they approached every game. And what really got me 233 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 4: in that book was, you know, he played the game. 234 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: They played the game against the San Francisco for the Niners, 235 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: right and you know, the game over whatever. So he says, 236 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: lawyer called them like four five o'clock in the morning, 237 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: basically San fran Jared Rice and those guys they was 238 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: charged oppressing charges for assaultant battery. How much they were 239 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: getting beat and he was like, are you serious. So 240 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: but for me, I'm like, you know what, I grew 241 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 4: up watching guys like this. This is how I formed 242 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 4: my game. I play with a chip on my shoulder 243 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 4: because of these guys. You know, the running lots, you 244 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: know the Jack Tatums, all these guys that brung this 245 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 4: type of game to the game, the physicality to the game. 246 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 4: That's how our prided myself around it. So that book 247 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 4: had me so amp up, and so I was so 248 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: juiced just my mindset going in that game and knowing 249 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: this an EFC Championship game. I want to put the 250 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: team on my back. That's how I felt like, this 251 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: is what it's going to be. And on top of that, 252 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: they had a great defense. They said they had a 253 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: great team themselves, right, Their defense was stacked with Ed 254 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 4: Reed and ray Lewis Heloly Nada like. They had some 255 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: studs over that, and I respect those. I love Helloly Like. 256 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: So I'm like, man, it's me versus them. This is 257 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 4: my house. So I'm going to show you what it 258 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: is coming to Julett. We're not for to play this game. 259 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: So I think that game for me kind of was 260 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: I walked away. I never walked away from a game saying, oh, 261 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: that was the best and dish. I never really cared 262 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: about that because my mindset was always how can I 263 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: get better? Like I care less, trying to move on. 264 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: But that game I walked away saying, man, that was 265 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: a first time in my career I ever said to 266 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: myself after. 267 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: Game, that was the hell of a game I played. 268 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: Because I never get I never give myself credit because 269 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: I'm I like to see my teammates and others to 270 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 4: see I was a nose tackle, right, So I'm the 271 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,479 Speaker 4: bottom of the totem pole when it comes to playmaking 272 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: and this and like that's a team that's a team position. 273 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: But it ran. But if you mentioned. 274 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: Those tackle to anybody, they lie, you know what I mean, 275 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: because the dirty work. You know, I'm always the last 276 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: one getting off of all of my power. I'm at 277 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: the bottom, and I'm getting the least credit. Right, That's 278 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: a that's any nose tackle my game I made place 279 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: I changed to me. I changed the game from a 280 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: true two gap nose tackle. I changed the game there 281 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: because you have a lot of guys that play a nose, 282 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: but they playing one gap. You know they're not two gaping. 283 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: And I tell people all the time, listen, can you 284 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 4: so two gaping is I'm I'm in charge of If 285 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: I'm head up on the SINAI I have both A gaps. 286 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: So if I go to one A gap, I'm wrong. 287 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: If I go to other, I'm wrong. I have both 288 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: of those A gaps. So now I basically have to 289 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: mirror this guy, take the blocking scheme and understand. 290 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I have. 291 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: A double on my right, I'm still the front side 292 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 4: a gap is still mine and this backside a gap 293 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: is still mine. Now, if I was one technique, I'm 294 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: going to either be front side a gap or the backside, 295 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: but I'm going in charge of one of those gaps. 296 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: But in two gaping, everybody's in control of two gaps. 297 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't understand it takes a 298 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 4: real man to be a two gap. I don't care 299 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: how great of a football player and how great of 300 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: a defensive lineman you are, it takes a real man 301 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 4: to two gap day in and day out, because we 302 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: take a beating. You have to be doable, you have 303 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: to be strong, you have to be smart. But what 304 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: I wanted to do, I wanted to change that could 305 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: because I came from a penetrating defense from high school 306 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: and college. That's how I made you know, that's that's 307 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: that's how I became evinced well for penetrate making plays. 308 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 4: That's what it is. So Bill and Romeo Cornell, they 309 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: had to teach me how to two gap because I 310 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: had no clue what it was. So a lot of 311 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: people don't understand. I was never not stack until I 312 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: got to the NFL. I had to learn a position 313 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: all over again. And this, you know I'm talking about. 314 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: I'm out of cause I'm a first round draft pick 315 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: coming from the University of Miami where I destroyed things 316 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: in college. So now all of a sudden, hell with that, 317 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: we need to learn this. It was foreign to me. 318 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: It was foreign to me. And I say, year year three, 319 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: that's when it started coming together for me as a 320 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: two gaper and understanding the game. And year four I 321 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: took off. But people, yeah, I had to learn how 322 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: to be a two gap. 323 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: Who is your welcome to the NFL moment where you 324 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: tried your new two gap ski your this is your 325 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: new technique? That said, hey, young buck, this is this 326 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: two gap should ain't working here? Well, that year. 327 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: Jets always played us tough, they always and they seemed 328 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 4: to have you know, their offensive line seemed to play 329 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 4: us like the best against anybody. So Jets were always tough. 330 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: The offensive line. They were always tough. And I played 331 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: against you know, the Stellers back in the days with 332 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 4: the bus when he had a good, good offensive line. 333 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 4: I played against Kansas City when Will Shills, WILLI roof 334 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 4: and those guys were there. So I played against some 335 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: good offensive lineman as a young Buck, and I'm like, 336 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 4: this two gap stuff. 337 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: Don't work, you know. 338 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: But to be in this defense I knew because my 339 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: mindset coming in was like, okay, New England. Page is 340 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 4: coming off a super Bowl win all right in Houston 341 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 4: against the Panthers. They get rid of probably the best 342 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 4: nose tack of an all time, a true nose Ted Washington. 343 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 4: They get rid of him and they draft me. So 344 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, here's pressure. So they get rid of 345 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 4: the one of the best nose tacker they ever played. 346 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 4: The game, they're coming out a super Bowl run, and 347 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 4: all of a sudden they draft me first round, first pick. 348 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: They draft me. When the first pick, I did it. 349 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 4: They throw them in the fire. It wasn't no, how 350 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: we're gonna take it. No, no, I'm getting thrown in 351 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: the fire. And it was a lot of pressure put 352 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: on me, and I wanted to put it on myself 353 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 4: because I always say I didn't want them to feel 354 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: like they made a mistake. 355 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: You understand I know exactly what I don't. 356 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: I they took they first round picked to draft me, 357 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: so I want to make sure I don't fail this 358 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: organization and my teammates. And it was no problem with me, 359 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: but learning the new position, you know, it kind of 360 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: put things in your head like, man, I'm used to 361 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: making this type of play. 362 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'm used to rushing the past. I'm used to 363 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: doing this. I'm used to just getting them. I'm not. 364 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 365 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: Being in both of these What you mean being in 366 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 4: both of the yat? What do you mean take a 367 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: knee when it's double Like? What what does that mean? 368 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 4: All this was new and people don't understand what I've 369 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: done in the way I solidified that position, how hard 370 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: it was day in and day out learning something totally new. 371 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 4: I drafted you because of what I saw you you 372 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: do in college. But that's we're not going to tell 373 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 4: you to do that. We want you to do it 374 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 4: this way and this way. You have to learn it. 375 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 4: It's like a quarter It's like it's like a quarterback 376 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: learning how to play another position or receiver. I mean, 377 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 378 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, you know, you want me to 379 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: learn this new position and you're not learning the new 380 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: position at like high school. You're learning. 381 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 6: Man. 382 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: Now, when you said you have to be a real 383 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: man to be a nose tackle, do you have to 384 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: be a real man to wear overalls? You gotta be 385 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 2: a real man. Keep on coming. First of all, you 386 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: gotta have talk on me. You got that. You're good. 387 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: You're good. 388 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 4: Normally you need a little stomach, but you're okay. You 389 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 4: can rock it because you got to talk on me. 390 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: So one or the other, you you nailed or stomach, Yeah, Tacomeo, stomach, 391 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: you nailed it. You're good. It's so funny, you know. 392 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL moment? Yeah? How many welcome to 393 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: the NFL moments? Do you think you gave two rookies? Oh? 394 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 4: Man, that's hard to say, because man, you know thirteen 395 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: years you know. 396 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: Rookies cause you remember when you would see a young 397 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: fresh body. 398 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it always, you know, but I always, 399 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: you know, I took people. I respected the game and 400 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: I respected you know players. 401 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: You know, that's all Gronk said. Gronk said on his 402 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: first wham block against you. 403 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 4: Well, hold on, now, let's talk about that for a second. 404 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: So they sat Gronk up, they sat Grink up, and uh. 405 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: Bill was in the back was like they. 406 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, okay. 407 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: So I looked over and I saw, okay, it's our 408 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 4: rookie Tighty, and I said, okay, here we go. So 409 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 4: when they ran the playing, I hit him, but I 410 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: walked back to the hood. I'm like, I like this guy. 411 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, I like this guy. Like he took that. 412 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: He took that, and he walked and you know, Grounk 413 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 4: walked shaking away and all goofing, and I don't know 414 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: what he's saying in the holder, but to me, I'm 415 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 4: looking at him because I wanted to see like he 416 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 4: did I hurt him a little bit? 417 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: Did I did? I wake him up a little bit, 418 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: But he didn't give me anto that. 419 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: So right then and there, I say, I love that 420 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: guy because he's gonna be good for us. You know, 421 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 4: because he took you like a chap. Oh how it felt. 422 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: Now he has to he'll tell you that. But what 423 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 4: he showed, he showed he took it like a man. 424 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: What did he say? He we recently talked about it. 425 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: We were talking about welcome to the NFL moments. He goes, yeah, 426 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: I remember mine, then flew me up. I never been 427 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: hit that hard in my life. 428 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: Well, i'll tell you what, myke my, my Welcome to 429 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: the NFL came in practice in training camp. 430 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: Corey dialing, Corey dialing, what it was? 431 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 4: Ford dealing And man, I mean it was just a regular, 432 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 4: you know, regular little zone play. And you know, I 433 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 4: got through it and I hit him, but he was coming 434 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 4: with so much force it felt rooted right. I was dizzy. 435 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: I went back to the huddle. I'm shaking my head. 436 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, what the hell just happened? And I'm 437 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 4: and now the play is still like, We're in a 438 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 4: huddle and I'm sitting here saying, man, I like, I'm shaking, 439 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm trying to shake it off. I'm like, man, like, 440 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 4: I don't like, I'm dizzy, my eyes crossed, I'm seeing 441 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 4: the stars. I'm like, man, mind you the office is 442 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: breaking the huddle to get back at the lit swimmer. 443 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: So I'm like, man, let me buckle up, and I 444 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: got back in it. But it's like, right when I 445 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: put my hand back down and the play happened, I 446 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: snapped out of it and come to find out I 447 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 4: had no error in my helmet and trying to hit 448 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 4: a two hundred and thirty pound bag. 449 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: Was that your first time hitting a two hundred and 450 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: thirty pounds like, because I mean, we all played college, 451 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: we all played high school. Yes, you were probably the 452 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: largest human. Yeah, I mean he put it to you though. Yeah, 453 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: I know he played it in the NFL. Yeah, but 454 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that fact that big because Corey Dillon 455 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: ran violent ye and it was heavy heavy. 456 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 4: It was like he it was he was a slug 457 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: and he was just so strong man. That was that 458 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: was Like I said, that was training training camp for 459 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 4: my rookie year. So that was my first like, hey, 460 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: this is the big boys game, you know, But it 461 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: never you know, it never did anything to me. You know, 462 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: I shook it off and I kept the moon. But 463 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: you know, you're talking about you know, rookie moments and 464 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 4: welcome to the NFL. It came for me. It came 465 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 4: from Corey Dialer. Absolutely, Corey. He probably don't even know this, 466 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: but I'm telling you. I'm telling you the truth. Yeah, 467 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 4: he rocked me, and I'm just going for a tackle. 468 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: He rocked me. That's the collision. Yeah, you were young still, 469 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: I was you probably you weren't even ready for it. 470 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 4: No, no, no air in a helmet, and I'm trying 471 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: to play a game with no. 472 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: Air, bike, helmet or shut back. It was a bike 473 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: with the actual bladder, the blue bladder. 474 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 4: But you know what, I played my whole career, high school, 475 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 4: college and pros with that helmet, with that him, I 476 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 4: wouldn't play with no other other hemn. 477 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: You know. I played with that helmet until I started 478 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: just getting kaboozled across the middle and I just went 479 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: to I said, give me the safest one year four. 480 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: You remember when you remember when they came in and 481 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: they changed the rule and Bill was like, everybody changes 482 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 4: their helmets. This that's what the rule is, and woo. 483 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 4: So I told Bill then I'm like, I talked to 484 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: him afterwords. I'm like, I can't do it if I 485 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: if I have to play with another hem and I'll 486 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 4: retire you. 487 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: That's just what it is. Bill. I'm sorry what Bill said. 488 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: He's like, you're fine, you know, just you know, you know, 489 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: just you know, don't go out and make a scene 490 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: and everything sooky. I'm like, okay, I appreciate that, but 491 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: I was dead serious. Was that was that a did 492 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 2: you throw a motherfucker in there? Good possibility? Can you 493 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: explain the motherfucker? It's like, you know, it's like a. 494 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 4: You know, I switched it up to mo folk because 495 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: I don't like the curse anymore. But like mofo, Like 496 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: it's like a like a what's up? Or like hey 497 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 4: check it out, Hey check hey, mofo, check this out record. 498 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: You know. 499 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 4: It's more like a kind of cool chill and letting 500 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 4: you getting your attention. I got something to tell you, you 501 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But that the craziest thing is, man, 502 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 4: that that travels so many different places. 503 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: Man. 504 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 4: I remember when Brian Flories was down to Miami. The 505 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 4: first thing, the first time you see me down there, 506 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 4: you're like, mofo. So it's like it's the thing that 507 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: travel you know, so. 508 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: That big you would be holding court in the locker room. Yeah, 509 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: you see him and Randy. Yeah, and all of a 510 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: sudden these too. I just be walking by it. I 511 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 2: didn't want to say a word. Here is folk, that's it. 512 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: That's the word. They would they would say it back 513 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: to each other and communicate because it has different meanings. Yeah, yeah, 514 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: it does. It has different meaning. 515 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: The thing is, it's all about how you coming to 516 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: the scene with what you're coming with, because it'll tell 517 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 4: you right then and there. Hey, if it's something serious, 518 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: or if it's something like, man, let me tell you 519 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: about this. 520 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 521 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 4: So it's all about how you know the context of it, 522 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 4: you know how it going to be presented. 523 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: But yeah, it travels well. The boys are back in town. 524 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: That's right. We are back in Boston for another live show, 525 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: an evening with the Nuthouse. You thought last year was wild, 526 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: This year is gonna be bigger and better. We got 527 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: Gronk myself, plenty of special guests and surprises in store 528 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: August twenty eighth at the MGM Music Hall at Fenway. 529 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 2: Tickets on sale now go to ticketmaster dot com. It's 530 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: gonna be a bast Can we talk about the first 531 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: time I get into a player? A lot I'm driving 532 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 2: like a Lincoln MKL some Lincoln four door and I 533 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: roll up and you roll in in a semi truck 534 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: with no fucking There was no trailer, but it was 535 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: a big ass orange semi truck and you wore the overall. 536 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: How was the gas mileage on that car? It was 537 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: actually good, was it? Oh? Yeah, it was good. I 538 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: had a fifty two gallon tank on that bad boy. Yeah. 539 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 4: Like so you know I would drive back from you know, 540 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 4: from Boston to Florida. I feel it once, I feel 541 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 4: it once one time, let's go. I can haul anything 542 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: if I wanted to. But you know, I seen. The 543 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 4: crazy thing is when I saw that truck. What it 544 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: was international. It's an international international. So when I saw it, 545 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, that's so much me I wanted. So 546 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 4: I bought it from a guy in Florida for fifty 547 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 4: thousand dollars. And I mean he had a dick down inside. 548 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 4: He had the snake skin leather, and I had a 549 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: nice little system in it. You know, I had the 550 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: bull horn in that bad boy. You know, so it 551 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: hit my personality, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, 552 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 4: like we I'm rolling And that was probably my best 553 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: car I ever had. 554 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: I loved that car. You know what I mean. 555 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: You got rid of it, got rid of it, got 556 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 4: rid of it. I wish I never did, But I'm 557 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 4: gonna get another one. 558 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: What is the most you ever holding that thing? Nothing? 559 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: Just me in the f I never I never hit 560 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 4: it up, hits anything up to it because I'm like, 561 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 4: I don't care about all that. I wanted to be 562 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: a big man on the road. I want to get 563 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 4: all these so called big trucks out of the way. 564 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 4: And because when I came through, you heard me a 565 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 4: mile away. 566 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: You heard it. Because I can hit that horn and 567 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 2: like get some people attention. It was it was like 568 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: that was my welcome to the NFL. Roll up and 569 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: I saw a big v get out truck and he 570 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: parked that thing right in the front. That's right, took up. 571 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: I didn't care, didn't care, didn't care what yeah going 572 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: on by their business. You have to get your cdo 573 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: for that. 574 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: I did not hauling nothing to plus the gears and 575 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: it was automatic and all that stuff. So I got 576 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: away with not having CDs and stuff. And like I said, 577 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: I love that truck. Like that truck man. My age 578 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 4: just sent me a picture, probably like a week or 579 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 4: so ago, with my youngest son and his son taking 580 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: the picture next to it. 581 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it brung back memories. I'm like, man, I 582 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 2: love that truck. Why did I get rid of that truck? Jeez? 583 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, she was my baby. Where was the hardest 584 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: place you ever tried to park it? 585 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: I've made parking spots, so it didn't matter. I mean, 586 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 4: no matter where I was, if they didn't have a spot, 587 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: I made it one. So I mean, what you gonna 588 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: do to it? 589 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: No, I don't think you can't. You gotta get like 590 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: a special tofa. So I'm like, I was always safe. 591 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: He always shaved. 592 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: But I never had no problems on with people, and 593 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: I'll never you know. I used to get a bunch 594 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: of horns and like a thumbs up and all that. 595 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: More everyone knew, is you. 596 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah when I it was hurricane Yep, it was Hurricane 597 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: Orange for everyone. By the way, it wasn't just like 598 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: a like a black truck or a low Hurricane Orange. 599 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: The funniest thing, the coolest thing was I did sometimes 600 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: I didn't even have to blow the horn because people 601 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 4: see it. They get out the way anyways, like they 602 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: just they just move out the way, so I'll be 603 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: in the fast lane by myself. 604 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: Everybody just moving, it's moving. 605 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: So No, that was a that was that probably my 606 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: best truck man like that was a man's man's truck. 607 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 4: You you you you rock around with that. It ain't 608 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: nobody could tell you nothing. 609 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: You know what he did man man things? Two gap overalls. 610 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: You got to I'm I'm a man's man, brother likes 611 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: I love everything outside, I do everything. 612 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: That's I got one bone to pick though. Oh I 613 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: want to hear this one now. Can you at least 614 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: confess that Bill is way softer on fucking defensive guys 615 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: than offensive guys. And you want to know how I 616 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: know because he would come up and ask us questions, 617 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: like on Wednesdays, he'd always he'd always test us, right, 618 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: he'd always test us, both offense and defense in front 619 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: of each other. He look over at me, edaman, what 620 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: what coverage is this? And this list? He looked over 621 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: at V, Hey, V, what color is the team we're playing? No, 622 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: that's not true, I don't think. 623 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 4: But see we thought, because you got to understand, Bill 624 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: used to come into our meetings when he leaves squad 625 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 4: and all that he would come in there with us 626 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: and grill us sour our question answering. He might not 627 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: give it to us all in a team meeting, but 628 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: he'll leave that meeting when we break up an individual, 629 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 4: he'll come in there and grill us with questions, Hey. 630 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: Big v we're playing Derrick Henry this year? Is this 631 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: a run or paste shit? Like, I'm not even joking, bro, 632 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: I'm sitting there. They're asking us scheme this this this? 633 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: They're like, hey, is this chief coach like to throw 634 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: it or run it? 635 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what the first I'll tell your funny 636 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: story with Bill and me. Right, So my rookie year, 637 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: we I think we we in manning counter or something 638 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 4: like that, and he's asking questions and I mean he 639 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: going around and he's asking like layup questions. Right, So 640 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: he get to me, He say, Vince, what is memorial today? 641 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: So I'm like, man, I don't know if it's a 642 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: trick question not. So I was like, barbecue. He said, 643 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: know you a whole what answered? I'm like, that's what 644 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: we do, barbecue. 645 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 5: Man. 646 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: When I tell you, Bill couldn't do nothing but laugh. 647 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 4: He could do it Because I'm like, what do you 648 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: ask me? I'm like, it's a trick question. What are 649 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 4: you asking me? So he went on to tell everybody 650 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 4: about memory. Then I'm like, hey man, I'm like, be 651 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: a coach. I thought you was asking me what what 652 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 4: we do on memory? He said, Nah, No, you asked 653 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 4: whole I'm talking about that that. I'm like, my bad. 654 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 4: That was my first question from Bill. And that's how 655 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: I answered it. The first question and. 656 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: He and he had a little jolly smile. That was, oh, 657 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: I asked, so you guys gotta get out of here. No. No. 658 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 4: When he used to ask grunk question, we would laugh. 659 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 4: If Grunk knew what it didn't know, we would laugh 660 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: and he would laugh. 661 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: So it's like he would. 662 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: But I truly believe with Bill, and when it came 663 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: to me, I can truly think that. I think Bill 664 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: was testing me early on in my career on my 665 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: knowledge of the game. I really was, And I appreciate 666 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 4: him so much for doing that because he taught me 667 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 4: so much about football in the game itself. 668 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 5: You know. 669 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: A lot of questions that he would You gotta understand. 670 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 4: When I was a rookie, our defensive line, we was 671 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: in charge of knowing quarterback pivots, the route, tree, blocking schemes, 672 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 4: cadence motions. We had to know all of that, which. 673 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: Gives you an advantage because if you know the concepts, 674 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: you know that the quarterbacks got to get the ball 675 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: like yes, which a lot of it's crazy to me 676 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: that teams don't do that. 677 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 4: That's but Bill stopped. I think we were the last 678 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 4: class that came in that he did that too. But 679 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 4: I think looking back now, I think he was just 680 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: basically trying to see how smart in my football IQ 681 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 4: was because in Bill my Bill is thinking three four 682 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 4: steps ahead. He's like, let me see, I'm a test 683 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 4: and see what he knows. And I proved to him 684 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 4: that I know the game of football, you know. And 685 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 4: I think that allowed us to do a lot defensively 686 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 4: scheme wise, with ME knowing what's going on, not only 687 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,479 Speaker 4: from a defensive line standpoint, but you know, the back 688 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 4: end from the defense and offensively what they're trying to create, 689 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 4: and Bill through formations and this and that. So it 690 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 4: was like a not only we had you know, the secondary, 691 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: but if it was Rotney or if it was deaf 692 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 4: with the calls, you know, we had our linebackers with 693 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: the calls. 694 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: Now he have trust that. 695 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 4: Okay, I know Vince will be able to get calls out, 696 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 4: get us lined up up front, and it allowed us 697 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 4: to play so much faster as a defense. And you know, 698 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 4: I credit all of that to Bill because how he 699 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 4: taught me the game. I thought I knew the game, 700 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 4: but you know, sitting down and having a conversation with him, 701 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 4: you're know right away like I don't know much about 702 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 4: what I think I do, so I you know, I 703 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 4: always think on because he meant a lot to me, 704 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: not only in my personal life and the friendship we 705 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: have and we built over the years, but as a coach, 706 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 4: what he was allowed to coach and teach me. That's 707 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 4: why I became the player I became, and that's why 708 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 4: I moved from nose tackle to a defensive tackle to 709 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 4: in and then I can flop to go to this side. 710 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: So I didn't do. 711 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: I didn't play a nose tradition like any other two 712 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 4: gap nose because Bill had the luxury of moving me 713 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 4: in different positions and I can produce at those positions. 714 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 4: So it just allowed us as a team in defense 715 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 4: to manipulate a lot of play calling from my offense 716 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 4: and start standing the point you know, because they never 717 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 4: knew where I was going to be, you know, And 718 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 4: a lot. 719 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 2: Of it is common sense though that which is all right, 720 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: take best defensive alignment, put him on worse offensive lignment, 721 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: maybe not be in traditional spot, but that's weakness and 722 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: then you win, you know what I mean? Like, oh yeah, 723 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: but like that's it's crazy. Like I watch a lot 724 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: of these defenses and I'm like, are we we? I 725 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 2: guess we're just that much smarter. Because I was out, 726 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here and I was talking to Antonio Gates. 727 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 2: We did a show together, and he doesn't realize that 728 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: I was in seventh grade when he was talking about 729 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: the game that right he was playing. I'm like, I 730 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 2: wasn't in this game. 731 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 8: But the whole time he keeps on talking to me, 732 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 8: how the fuck we lose these pages? 733 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: And it hints to me like it's because we were, 734 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: Like what you were talking about, we were the smartest 735 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: football team by by far. Yeah, yeah, we were. We 736 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 2: always was, you know what I mean, Like it wasn't 737 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: just know your position, you knew the rhyman reason why 738 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: you were doing what you were doing. 739 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of times I lined up and 740 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 4: I knew we had teams where first player of the game, 741 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 4: I'm lined up somewhere opposite and those because office line 742 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 4: would said, you know, I got a lot of old crap. 743 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 4: Didn't realize I was going to be over there. So 744 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 4: now I know, Okay, now I'm playing with your scheme 745 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 4: because everything you prepared for it's not it. So now 746 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 4: you have to go back to the drawing board and 747 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 4: you have to figure out, Okay, where event's going to be, 748 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 4: what they're gonna be playing. We thought he was gonna 749 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 4: be this, but now but yeah, I remember like a 750 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 4: lot of office linemen like, oh, crap, you over here, 751 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 4: what you're doing over here? Yeah, the screw You'll play up, 752 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 4: simple as that. 753 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 2: Now a guy you played with on those defenses is 754 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: now the head coach of the New England Patriots, Mike rabel. 755 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 2: I love it. What are your thoughts on that? I 756 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: love it? You know. 757 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 4: And the thing is I had the luxury to be 758 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 4: a player with Mike, and in Houston he was a 759 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 4: linebackers coach, so coach for Mike, I mean played for Mike, 760 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 4: and I always knew since the time that our plan 761 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 4: days that he was going to be a head coach. 762 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 4: I always knew that. I mean, he was a coach 763 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 4: like no doubt in my mind that's going to happen. 764 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 4: And I love that move because he's going to get 765 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 4: the best out of everybody. And he's very smart when 766 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 4: it comes to the game of football. He knows exactly 767 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 4: what he's doing. He know how to he know how 768 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 4: he wanted to deliver messages. He's outspoken. If he believes something, 769 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,959 Speaker 4: he believe in it. If he don't like something, he'll 770 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 4: tell you. I mean, he will speak his mind. But 771 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 4: at the same time, the respect that he receives is 772 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 4: because what he poured out. So I think we're in 773 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 4: good hands with Mike. I really do believe we're going 774 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: to do We're gonna do some wonders this year. I mean, 775 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 4: we're going to sell a different football team this year, 776 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 4: and I'm expecting for us to shock a lot of people, 777 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 4: you know, just because of I know Mike as a 778 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 4: person and a player and the coach. 779 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: I've already known him, you know, I know it. 780 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 4: And they spend money, Yeah, they gonna spend guess what 781 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 4: he ain't for the hottest hand. If he wants somebody, 782 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 4: he gonna let me know we need this player. I 783 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 4: don't want them, we need them. He'll tell him, you know. 784 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 4: And and that's what I love about him. He's a 785 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 4: he's a players coach. But at the same time, he's disciplined. 786 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 4: He's going to have a smart football team, not gonna 787 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 4: make a lot of dumb mistakes. And they're gonna play 788 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 4: hard for him. They're gonna play hard for him. So 789 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 4: I'm excited about it. I'm happy that, you know, we 790 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 4: did get Mike, you know, if that was the choice, 791 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 4: I love that we went and grabbed him because I 792 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 4: think he'll do wonders for us. 793 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think these teams are gonna look more like 794 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: our old teams, Yeah, in some capacity. 795 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 4: Yet I think one of the main things we're gonna 796 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 4: get is the competitiveness and aggressive play, I think, and 797 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 4: a smart team. 798 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 2: You know. 799 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 4: So you're gonna see we're gonna look We're gonna look apart. 800 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 4: We're going to look like we know what we're doing. 801 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 4: You know, the past four or five years, we didn't 802 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 4: look like that. We were we you know, the past 803 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 4: four or five years, you know what we look like. 804 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: We looked like teams we used to talk about, Yeah, 805 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 4: like how can how you do that, That's how we 806 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 4: used to look. 807 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't think we'll look like that. 808 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 4: We're gonna be going to be coached very very well 809 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 4: and hard, and we're going to play hard. 810 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 2: What's the difference between Raves as a coach and a 811 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 2: player really nothing? Really, nothing good nothing. 812 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 4: That's why when I played with him, he's the same 813 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 4: guy as a coach then when I played with him. 814 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 2: You gotta understand. 815 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 4: I've seen Ray, him and Tom Brady go at it 816 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 4: on the sideline or practicing. You know, I've seen Brave 817 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 4: Raves walking out a quarterbacks meeting with Tom. I've seen 818 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 4: Rave and Tom walking down the hallway with a playbook 819 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 4: talking about this. And I've seen Ray and Tom talking 820 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 4: about scheme I saw and I heard Ray tell Tom 821 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 4: that would never work against this guy. 822 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: I've seen it. 823 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 4: Like so, the respect Tom gave him for input in 824 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 4: what he was trying to do, that tells you everything. 825 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: What was the worst thing you ever heard coach Frable 826 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: say to Tom? 827 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 4: I mean it got f you, Yeah, F bums was 828 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 4: all always a part of it. 829 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: He didn't care who you a bill get F bombs? 830 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: Brave man. 831 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 4: Look at when when I tell you when Mike believe 832 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 4: in something, he gonna stand firm in it, and he's 833 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 4: gonna tell you why. 834 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: Now that's what I love about it. Was he a 835 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: smart shit talker? Yeah he was. Yeah, so he like 836 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: pulled something out of the cuddies. 837 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 4: I've been on the field where the call come in 838 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 4: and he'll shake your head. 839 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 2: It's not gonna work. 840 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 4: I've been in the hoddle with him, or when we 841 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 4: in the meeting room, that's not gonna work, and he'll 842 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 4: tell you why. He was so smart as a players. 843 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 4: It was just you would never believe that he was 844 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 4: a linebacker. The way he saw the game. He saw 845 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 4: it as a head coach scenario situation. He's seen it 846 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 4: as a head coach as a player. 847 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: Now, this just popped it in my head. Do you 848 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 2: think Bill liked Rabel more than you because he let 849 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 2: him play offense and gave him a touchdown? 850 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 4: Look here, that's one thing I regret with Bill, Like, 851 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 4: come on, Bill like and the crazy thing is, but 852 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 4: the thing is he did he let seem on line 853 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 4: up in the backfield. So I'm like, man, listen, no, 854 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 4: no shade towards anybody, But I was the best. I 855 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 4: was the best athlete on the on the defense, hands down, 856 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 4: tell them straight up. I returned kicks in high school. 857 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 4: I kicked the ball in high school. 858 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 2: I did. 859 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 4: I played every position you could possibly name on on 860 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 4: the field. One position I would never play it center, 861 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 4: but I tried it and I hated it. But I 862 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 4: played every position like I played basketball. I dunked basketball. 863 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 4: I did all of that. I was the greatest poundful 864 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 4: pound athletes on the pages. I mean, Jamie Collins pretty tight. 865 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 4: But listen, here a guy in my side to do 866 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 4: what I did, we're not for to play this. I 867 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 4: played lineback, I dropped, dropped in cover like. I could 868 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 4: do all of that. And you could dance. I could 869 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 4: dance like a ballerina. 870 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: I could dance. My footwork was good, and you could 871 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: you could move like a ballerina. 872 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 4: So for me not to be on the offensive side 873 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 4: of the ball, when I see a lot of guys, 874 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 4: not just from up but other teams, you know, putting 875 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 4: their guys in the background that you know have some 876 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 4: athleticism to them, you know, that was kind of bombed 877 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 4: out for me. 878 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 2: Now, would that be a perfect moment to use if Bill, 879 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 2: you saw Bill mufox, Oh, I hit him with that. 880 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you mother fo you should have Oh yeah, 881 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 4: he would have got one of those and the contents 882 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 4: he would have been like V yeah right. But that's 883 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 4: one thing I really wish, you know. It's just I 884 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 4: wanted that so bad. 885 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: To be on them. 886 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 4: And I remember talking to Josh mc daniels one day. 887 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, come, Josh, just let me out block. I 888 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 4: don't even want the I just want to be over 889 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 4: there and block and to show you like I could block. 890 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 2: You know, No, Bill, Bill ain't no, Bill, it's not 891 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: going to go for that. Why why I don't want 892 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 2: the ball. I'm a decoy. But I can catch, like 893 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: I call. 894 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 4: I'm telling you V return punt like listen, return punts 895 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 4: like listen. 896 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: I did it all. 897 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 4: They didn't utilize me like they should they should. 898 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: Maybe Bill didn't wanted me to be great. Maybe that's 899 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: what it is. I'm have to call billings like what 900 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: was that all about? I mean, can we talk where you? 901 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: I know you had a lot of crazy sacks TFLs, 902 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 2: but were your favorite stats the interceptions? Yeah? Absolutely got it, 903 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: ball in the hand. 904 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, because you have to understand I was 905 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 4: I was a risk taker. And I knew if I 906 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 4: wanted to make plays, I had to be basically sure 907 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 4: of a play because if I went out there and 908 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 4: kind of went against the grain and it didn't work, 909 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 4: Bill had my head, and he had every right to 910 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 4: have my head, you know. So that just came from film, 911 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 4: so that I always went into one every game saying, listen, 912 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 4: I want to steal a play. What play can I steal? Right, 913 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 4: I've always that's that was my model. 914 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: Still a play, just still a place, just one place, 915 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 2: just still a place, still the play, and forty much 916 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: the majority of the time when I got to that 917 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: point in my career where I say, you know when 918 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 2: I came up with that, I stole a lot of plays, 919 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: and that's why you have the moments like Big V 920 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 2: did that, or or the screenplay against Buffalo One. 921 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 4: That guy even I think it was a Sunday night 922 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 4: or Monday night against Pittsburgh at home where I spent 923 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 4: out of the other team and I hit Ben rothel 924 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 4: Berg before soon he came out of the clayash and 925 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 4: fake the interception. So it was things I did where 926 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 4: I stole plays, but I studied it, you know, I 927 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 4: did a lot of study and preparing for that stuff. 928 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 4: And plus I was a junkie in the fum room, 929 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 4: so I never let anybody off the hook. 930 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 2: Never. 931 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I was going to be on your neck 932 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 4: from first nap to the last nap because I knew 933 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 4: it was going to be something that you were going 934 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 4: to give me and I was going to steal a play. 935 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 4: And that's how I operated my career. Now, what's running 936 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 4: through your head when you have the ball in your hands? 937 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 4: House call man, Nope, just run, just run Now I 938 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 4: could sit here, Yeah, you're all day. Oh man, if 939 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 4: I ever get the football, this is what I'm gonna do, 940 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna get up and i'ma dance. 941 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm a woo woo wood woo. Man. 942 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. Those sixty yards are like 943 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 4: I'm a thousand yards away. The only thing I said 944 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 4: was just running. It'd get there sooner rather than later. 945 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,479 Speaker 2: You know. But when you have a ball in your hands, 946 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 2: you realize how fast other people are. 947 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 4: They're fast fast, and you realize how far the goal 948 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 4: line is. It's far, you know, It's like it's far. 949 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 4: So I had all those moments where I'm like, oh, 950 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this I'm gonna dance. 951 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, I ain't got time for that. Man. 952 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 4: I was just trying to run and get there, but 953 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 4: it seemed like I wasn't going nowhere. 954 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: But ball security was over. That thing was high and tight. Tight. 955 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 2: Come on, give me that and tight. Absolutely, we'll be 956 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 2: right back after this quick break. So let's let's jump back. 957 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 2: And I'm just so fascinated with the University of my 958 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it was like dream school as a kid 959 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 2: that I wanted to go, and it was because of 960 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 2: players like you, right and your generation. What is that like? 961 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: Fraternity feel like to be from the U The brash, 962 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 2: the convicts, the best teams look like, what is the you? 963 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 2: How is that? How is that experience? Well, it's a brotherhood. 964 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 4: There's no other college football team can say they have 965 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 4: the brotherhood we have. I don't care who you are. 966 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 4: I don't care if y' Alabama, I don't care if 967 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 4: you USC, I don't care if you're Georgia. 968 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't you Oh, how you state? 969 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 4: You don't have the brotherhood we have, plain and simple, 970 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 4: and that's how we rock. We would tell you what 971 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 4: we feel about you, and we wouldn't care we would 972 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 4: punch in your face. 973 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 2: We would not care. 974 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 4: But the brotherhood, it started way before us, because I 975 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 4: remember when I was down there, I had the old guys, Michael, Irvin, Cortes, 976 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 4: Kennedy and Ray and all those guys come back and 977 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 4: there on the sideline, they pouring into us and they're 978 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 4: telling us what it means to be a hurricane. This 979 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 4: is this is what you'll get. You'll get Hall of 980 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 4: famers coming to your practice. You'll get Hall of famers 981 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 4: sitting and talking and chopping it up and teaching in 982 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 4: the game. You'll get Hall of famers that's coming in 983 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 4: your meat room and telling you, hey, you can't. That's 984 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 4: what we get. So we are so different than any 985 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 4: other universally, there's no comparison. It's just not because of 986 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 4: what we stand for. I cannot talk to a guy 987 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 4: for a year, right and then we link up. It's 988 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 4: like we never missed a beat, you know what I'm saying. So, 989 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 4: and our brotherhood is strong. When you see one, you 990 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 4: see bout twenty. We roll in gangs and packs. 991 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Some of these I means 992 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: you play with Clinton Ports, Jeremy Shockey, Andre Johnson, Frank 993 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 2: or Ed Reed, Sean Taylor. 994 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 4: T John Wilmore, DJ Williams, DJ Williams, Brian McKinnon. 995 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 2: Who's on your mount Rushmore of Miami Hurricanes. 996 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 4: Man, that's so hard because we have so many great players. 997 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 4: My first and foremost I put on is Ed Reed. 998 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 4: That is down you know Ed Reed is He's a 999 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 4: staple of a Hurricane. And I would go Jerome Brown 1000 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 4: Brown JB. He was he was like the one that 1001 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 4: started the defensive tackle trend. And then it's like you 1002 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,919 Speaker 4: have to I get I mean Ray, right, I mean Ray? 1003 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 4: And then of course it's like you got Andre Johnson, 1004 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 4: Like pick him, Andre Johnson, Michael Irvin? 1005 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 2: Who you want to say? 1006 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 4: Like, like pick one of them? 1007 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 2: I know it's it's tough. You know, even with defensive tackles. 1008 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 4: You still got war One Sap out there, you got 1009 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 4: Cortes Kenny out there, you got Russell Maley out there. 1010 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 4: So like, you can't go wrong because the amount of 1011 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 4: players we had in the careers that had. One thing 1012 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 4: I always loved about us University of Miami being in 1013 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 4: the NFL is the longevity we had in the NFL. 1014 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 4: We have longevity with guys ten eleven, twelve plus years, 1015 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 4: like the durability looking Frank Gored, I mean Frank Gore, 1016 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 4: I mean Willis mc like, just look at Frank for's 1017 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 4: it's like, man. 1018 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 2: His career spectacular. 1019 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you just like that. When I 1020 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 4: seen Frank as a freshman, I didn't know how good 1021 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 4: he was. I just knew he was. 1022 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 2: He was good. He was decent, right. 1023 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 4: But I didn't didn't know how really good he was 1024 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 4: until he got a chance to get to the league 1025 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 4: and show that thing all over the year. And now 1026 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 4: he's one of the top leading the Russians. Every hes 1027 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 4: gonna be a Hall of Famer. 1028 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1029 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 4: And mind you, he was a third back, third string 1030 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 4: behind Clinton, behind Willis McGahee. Yeah, and then it was 1031 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 4: Frank and we all on one team. 1032 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 2: It's crazy. I mean, I remember when you guys won 1033 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 2: that Natty and No One Ken Dorsey, right Dorsey. Ken 1034 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 2: Dorsey was from my area and we went We went 1035 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 2: to the same quarterback coach because I was playing quarterback, 1036 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 2: and he was like, that was like, how is it 1037 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 2: winning a Natti? 1038 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 4: Well, the thing is when we won that Natty, you know, 1039 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 4: it was always big talk about Nebraska and they tradition 1040 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 4: and this and that other, and I'm like, we went 1041 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 4: to the Disney Disneyland whatever it was Disney World out there, 1042 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 4: and they were looking at us like we were gods. 1043 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 4: And we knew then we were going to beat their 1044 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 4: heads in because they were looking like us, like they've 1045 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 4: seen a ghost. 1046 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 2: Holy crap. 1047 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 4: Like yeah, So we knew going into that we was 1048 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 4: going to beat the dog crap out of We knew that. 1049 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 4: Like our toughest game getting to that was, you know, 1050 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 4: we had the Scare and BC and then the Virginia 1051 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 4: Tech game when we got us to the Rose Bowl. 1052 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it was. But the Natty itself, 1053 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 2: no man, no match, no match, no match whatsoever. Is 1054 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 2: that one of the top college football teams of all time? Absolutely? 1055 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 2: It is. It is. It is the best. 1056 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 4: I don't care who you pair, I don't care name it. 1057 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 4: Who are some of the through the rosters in USC four. 1058 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 4: It wouldn't have matter. It wouldn't have matter with the 1059 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 4: earlier Miami teams. Only they say that eighty eighty eight 1060 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 4: est severity, they think the eighty one of the eight. 1061 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 4: I think it's the eighty eight or eighty one, eighty eight, 1062 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,280 Speaker 4: eighty six whatever they think that, I'm like, no, because 1063 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 4: what we had, well, we had depth. You have to understand, 1064 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 4: I was a backup. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. 1065 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 2: That tells you all the depth you need to know 1066 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: you So it's like it didn't matter. 1067 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 4: Like when we took one guy out and one going in, 1068 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 4: we don't We didn't miss a beat. So you know, 1069 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 4: now you have guys that if one guy got off 1070 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 4: the fields, like everything go to crap, not of us, 1071 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 4: Like we had guys rolling in that can go start 1072 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 4: in any other college there is. It's not a lot 1073 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 4: of it's not a lot of players that play up 1074 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 4: elsewhere that can come there and start on that team. 1075 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 7: That running back room. Clinton Port is supposed to get. 1076 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 7: He Frank Or and Naj Davenport. That's a college running back. 1077 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 7: And the greatest thing na J Davenport, he was a 1078 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 7: half back. In order for him to play and be 1079 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 7: on the field, he moved a full back. 1080 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's Larry Coker, the greatest recruiter. 1081 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 2: So you gotta understand. Butch Davis, it was Butcher's son 1082 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 2: who says that all the time. Yeah, butcher Son, Yes, exactly. 1083 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 2: So it's Butcher recruited. 1084 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 4: And then Butch went to Cleveland after the Sugar Bowl 1085 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 4: and Cocher inherited that team. 1086 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1087 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 4: So all Cocher had to do it just short up 1088 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 4: the work. He wasn't doing nothing. Like listen here, we 1089 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 4: we we monitor ourselves. I'm gonna tell you how good 1090 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 4: we were. So good. We play on Saturday. So our 1091 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 4: Friday practice was it we travel. Okay, our Friday practice 1092 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 4: I walked through. 1093 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 2: We would be there about three hours early and we 1094 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 2: would go play like a pickup game of football. 1095 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 4: That's what we would do, just to tackle, just to 1096 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 4: touch whatever. But that's that's how committed we will. It's 1097 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 4: like as a brotherhood. Like coaches didn't have to worry 1098 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 4: about if somebody gonna be on time. Like, no, we 1099 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 4: were already three three hours. And then it got to 1100 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 4: a point where the coaches would get there just to 1101 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 4: see us play a little touch football. 1102 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1103 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 4: So our camaraderie is unmatched. What we had is unmatched. 1104 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 4: Is this was this the camaraderie? Like during this camaraderie, 1105 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 4: is this where you developed the grill skills? 1106 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 2: No? 1107 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 4: No, the grill skills came from my father I mean, 1108 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 4: my daddy was known for cooking barbecue. That's just what 1109 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 4: it was. And you know I always was like my 1110 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 4: dad's little helping me and my brother, my Daddy's little help. 1111 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: You know. 1112 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,720 Speaker 2: I always was a little guy just running. 1113 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 4: I just always wanted to be with my pops and 1114 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 4: my possle grund. And he's like, hey, go get this, 1115 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 4: Go get me a bill. 1116 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 2: I gotta have it. Go get me this pepper. I 1117 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 2: gotta have it. 1118 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 4: Anything he needed, he always added, got to have it 1119 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 4: to it right. So I would do it, you know, 1120 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 4: I would, and I would see and I will sit 1121 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 4: and watch my daddy. Where I grew up at we 1122 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 4: stayed on the corner on a busy like a busy street, 1123 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 4: So anytime they saw my father out there with a grill, 1124 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,720 Speaker 4: people will stop by. So it's nothing to have twenty 1125 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 4: people at our house, you know, eating my daddy food. 1126 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 4: And I always told myself, I say, man, I want 1127 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 4: people to be able to eat my barbecue like this 1128 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 4: and eat my food like this, right. And my daddy 1129 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 4: used to make this barbecue sauce and I can make 1130 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 4: it to this day from scratch. He used to make 1131 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 4: this barbecue sauce that people would love. I mean, you 1132 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 4: would love. So I got to a point, and you 1133 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 4: gotta understand, I'm like the fourth generation of cooking. You know, 1134 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 4: my mama, my grandma, my grates, they're all cooks. Like 1135 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 4: my mama used to burn, you know what I mean. 1136 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,879 Speaker 4: My daddy was a barbecue but Mama did it all. 1137 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 2: You know. 1138 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 4: So you know when I retired, you know, when you retire, 1139 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 4: you're trying to figure out, Okay, what's next. 1140 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 2: You know when I'm gonna do this? 1141 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 4: And I tried so many different things, and nothing stuck 1142 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 4: with me right until I think it was twenty twenty three. 1143 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 4: We was up here and stand at the Four Seasons, 1144 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 4: me and my wife, and we stand in the Four 1145 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 4: Seasons and we look out the window and they have 1146 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 4: a farmer's market out there, and I said, we're gonna 1147 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 4: do that. I'm gonna create I'm gonna create this barbecue sauce. 1148 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 4: We're gonna do that. We're gonna call it barbecue sauce. 1149 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 4: Gotta have it. GGI were coming to do that. That 1150 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 4: was two years ago. Were coming to do that because 1151 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 4: I saw the Farmer's wark and I've seen all the 1152 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 4: people out there and everywhere I'll go people always ask 1153 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 4: about my barbecue, did that and the other. 1154 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 2: So I just got to a. 1155 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,399 Speaker 4: Point one day I say, you know what, I'm gonna 1156 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 4: stick to what I know and what I love, and 1157 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 4: that's food. I've been at it since I was a kid, 1158 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 4: you know, so gg I gotta have it, just like 1159 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 4: you know in football, we have got to have a 1160 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 4: situation able to have it right. 1161 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 2: So it's like, that's the greatest and that's what your 1162 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 2: dad used to say, all and yes. 1163 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 4: So when I got to the NFL, when I started 1164 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,879 Speaker 4: putting all this together, I'm like, man, you know what, 1165 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 4: I grew up here and got to have it. And 1166 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 4: then I get to the NFL and now Bill said, hey, 1167 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 4: and it's got to have a situation. This is how 1168 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 4: we're going to handle it. Gotta have this. This is 1169 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 4: so I'm like, it's a no brainer for me to 1170 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 4: recreate something my father showed me as a little kid 1171 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 4: and just perfected. So he can be proud of my 1172 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 4: product I have. And that's where GHI come from and 1173 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 4: the sauce come from. It's in my blood. Like I 1174 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 4: like I said, my daddy was, I mean, you talk, 1175 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 4: go back to my hometown and talk about mister will 1176 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 4: Force barbecue like it was to die for it. So 1177 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 4: and then you know, when I left New England, I 1178 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 4: moved to Texas and I get around all these guys. 1179 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 4: That's all they do for a living, it's cook and barbecue. 1180 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 4: I was in heaven. So you know, I went around 1181 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 4: these guys and just picked their brain and eat and 1182 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 4: and you know, just learn about different stuff and Bob's stuff. 1183 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 4: And then you know, just out there, like I say, 1184 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 4: in twenty three, they'd hit me looking at that farm 1185 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 4: and walk and say, this is what I'm gonna do. 1186 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna come out with a barbecue sauce. Gotta have it, 1187 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 4: g h I and we're gonna rocket. And that's where 1188 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 4: we're at. It's such a love perfect name. Yeah, gotta 1189 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 4: have it seventy five, That is, you gotta have. 1190 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 2: It seventy five. Baby. Now, what what was Pops' best 1191 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 2: dish on the barbecue? What did he It was ribs 1192 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 2: and chicken ribs and chickens. So is it beef rib 1193 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: or is it? 1194 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 4: Back then beef when we ain't get on the thing, 1195 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 4: beef was burgers and steaks back then when my father 1196 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 4: fired that picked up and anybody else that fired that 1197 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 4: pick up back then. 1198 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 2: Man, it was rial. That's what we're doing, you know. 1199 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 3: And are they saucy or they dry? No, see, I 1200 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 3: don't know the difference dry. So dry rub is just seasoning. 1201 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 3: You don't need you put the sauce on after and. 1202 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 4: Normally if you want sauce you can put it on 1203 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 4: that there. But normally when you have if you have 1204 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 4: a good dry rub, you don't need sauce. But a 1205 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 4: lot of people like sauce even with that, So that's fine, 1206 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 4: that's that's no deal. But you know, barbecuing is a technique. 1207 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 4: It's it's you have to understand how each pit work. 1208 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 4: You got to understand how to pair if you smoking 1209 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 4: with wood, how to pair woods with what you're cooking, 1210 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 4: the temperature, how to control the temperature, making sure you're 1211 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 4: cooking with the right smoke. So it's a lot that 1212 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 4: goes into smoking. That's why a lot of people can't 1213 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 4: smoke meats because people don't know the technique in doing it. 1214 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 4: A lot of guys are used charcoal or pellets, and 1215 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 4: which is fine and danny, but when you start getting 1216 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 4: to smoking foods and smoking meats and cooking it's a technique. 1217 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 2: You have to know what you're doing. 1218 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 4: Because you can get some food that's tastes bitter from 1219 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 4: the too much smoke. You can cook with some smoke 1220 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 4: that's too too thick and just nasty smoke. So it's 1221 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 4: techniques too grilling, you know. And everybody have their day ways. 1222 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,439 Speaker 4: But the good thing with me, I grew up seeing 1223 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 4: my daddy on charcoal, that's what it was, and he'll 1224 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 4: throw hiss little wood chips in it. But as I 1225 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 4: got older and started getting better at cooking and barbecuing, 1226 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 4: you know, I learned the master the woods and the 1227 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 4: flavors of the woods and how it goes, and how 1228 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 4: to build your smoke stack and all that good stuff. 1229 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 2: So I just took off with it. It's like anything else, 1230 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 2: reps REPSP. It's an experiment. 1231 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 4: It's gonna you're gonna screw up a lot of stuff, 1232 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 4: you know, even with this sauce. You know, I probably 1233 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 4: made over one hundred sauces just creating this sauce. I mean, 1234 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 4: I it took some time. It took me something. It 1235 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 4: took me two years to get to this point where 1236 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 4: we're at with g H I and I created some 1237 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 4: good sauces and. 1238 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 2: I can't wait to try because we got the barbecue 1239 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 2: right after it. Get that gh I sending at five 1240 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, job, baby, gotta have it. Baby. Oh now, 1241 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 2: let's go back into time around when the game took place. 1242 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 2: This game took place November twenty second, twenty twelve, on Thanksgiving. 1243 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 2: Do you have a barbecue turkey? 1244 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 5: Oh? 1245 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, smoke turkey. Smoke. That's the only way I'll eat turkey. 1246 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: It was smoked, smoke it and we go for what 1247 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 2: pop culture was going on around the world. Number one movie, 1248 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 2: The Twilight Saga breaking down. I like your team Jacob 1249 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 2: or team the other guy. Edward Edwards, Edward Edward, Yeah, 1250 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 2: I was network guy too, Edward. Yeah, I was Team Edward. 1251 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 4: We just it's just his whole It's like he's just 1252 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 4: so smooth and like you mean business. Yeah, he's quiet, 1253 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 4: what he means business And when he talked you listen, Yeah, 1254 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 4: you know, he's like one of them. 1255 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 2: He's sneaky, scary. He is like he's that like Gothy 1256 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 2: White scary. That's right, Hey, that's what he became, Batman, 1257 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 2: he became back. Hey. Shout out number one song One 1258 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 2: More Night by Maroon five, you remember that one. I 1259 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 2: don't know around this time. Call of Duty Black Ops 1260 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 2: two makes five hundred million in the first twenty four hours. 1261 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 2: Do you play Black Ops? No, not really. I used 1262 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 2: to play with Randy, my rookie heere. Yeah. We used 1263 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 2: to play golf in the truck, the trucks, the trucks. Yeah, 1264 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 2: I see. It was crazy to me because I remember 1265 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 2: being a young kid straight out of college, game in 1266 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 2: my whole life, you know what I mean. And Randy 1267 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 2: was at that time, he's probably like thirty years old, right, 1268 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 2: you know, so he's older, you know, and he would 1269 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 2: just you would be looking at Randy's guy, and Randy's 1270 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 2: guy would just be like looking at the stars and ship, like, 1271 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 2: what the fuck is this guy doing? Fast forward twelve 1272 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 2: years when I'm playing with young kids, I'm like, Randy, Now, 1273 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's crazy. How like the younger kids? I 1274 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 2: just we used to play Black Ops together. Gangam Style 1275 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 2: came out that has eight hundred million views on YouTube. 1276 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 2: Well it's got more than that. It's got to be 1277 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 2: a billion. What is it. I'm on it's that one. 1278 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 2: My daughter like, now. 1279 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 4: It's at five point six, Billy, But I know, I 1280 01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 4: know that song. 1281 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 2: That's the song he smoked. 1282 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 5: Uh. 1283 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens this year m V P 1284 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson. I don't think we've had a running back 1285 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 2: MVP since No. He was a different person. 1286 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 4: He was he was And I got a chance to 1287 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 4: play against him ones and he was ok like he 1288 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 4: was Okay, he was he was he was special? 1289 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 2: Was he was he prime AP at that time because 1290 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 2: AP stuck around. Yeah, he was prime. I mean it was. 1291 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 1292 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 4: My best running back man was be smoke like man. 1293 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 4: He when he was a rookie in Buffalo. I remember 1294 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 4: pulling him to a side right after the game and 1295 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 4: I don't talk to people after the game, and I 1296 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 4: put him to a side and I say, listen to 1297 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 4: young fellow, you special, keep your head on straight. You're 1298 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 4: gonna you're gonna do some damage in this league. And 1299 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 4: he kind of smiling, like I appreciate it. He was 1300 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 4: a rookie and fast forward. I mean, he had a 1301 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 4: hell of a career. But I've always reached beck to 1302 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 4: that guy because he run hall, he runs angry, he 1303 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 4: runs you know where he's from, right? Where from? 1304 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 2: How to get that in the Yeah? I respect this guy. 1305 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 2: I love I love his game. Oh ship Heisman Trophy 1306 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 2: was Johnny Manzell Natty was Alabama and then NFL used 1307 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 2: replacement Oh my, you remember those replacement rests we played 1308 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 2: against Baltimore against we had. 1309 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 8: The water Boys, the garbage. Yeah, yeah, I got an 1310 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 8: OPI with it was weird. I was like, we need 1311 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 8: to get Bill was Bill was fissed. 1312 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 2: That's when you would see Bill get the maddess is 1313 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 2: when it was like anything to do with like officiating 1314 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 2: equipment on the field, Like I bruised my leg because 1315 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 2: the first down markers and like he wanted to go 1316 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 2: kill the league like these fucking asshole like anything that 1317 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 2: could hurt the player. Like he didn't want that. No, 1318 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 2: not at all. Oh Lebron won his first NBA title 1319 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 2: beating Oklahoma City Thunder. For one, it's still. 1320 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 4: Doing it, baby, he's still rocking joke, he's still looking good. 1321 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's just a different breed dude. I mean 1322 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 3: he's a different breed man. 1323 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 4: Like what he doing and just like his makeup, it's 1324 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 4: just wow, Like I don't even know the next guy 1325 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 4: we have like that. 1326 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm a Jordan guy. But like it's it's starting 1327 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 2: to become like Tom Brady asque that this guy's performing 1328 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 2: into his forties on basketball. 1329 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 4: We've never seen that he solid. He slid and Lebron solid. 1330 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 4: I love Jordan too, and I love and I love Kobe. 1331 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 4: I love Kobe too. I love Kobe. But those three 1332 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 4: guys like, man like, they are special. 1333 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,439 Speaker 2: Man Like, were you there when he came and talked 1334 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 2: to us Kobe or was it later? No? 1335 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 4: It was later, it was later. Yeah, I love you know, 1336 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 4: I've loved Kobe man like. It's just something about his 1337 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 4: game and his just mentality that I fell in love with. Like, man, 1338 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 4: he was just he was just so savvy and it's 1339 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 4: gaming and it's like he never backed down for any 1340 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 4: type of competitors killing. He going for your throat, you 1341 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 4: know what I mean. But all those guys like you know, Jordan, Lebron, Kobe, like, 1342 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 4: those guys they are special, man, Yeah, they are special. 1343 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 2: I had Truth. 1344 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 4: I grew up a Celtis fan, so I grew up 1345 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 4: loving Truth and KG and the original Big Three, the original. 1346 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 2: We went over the game. What was in two thousand 1347 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 2: and eight Conference final against Lebron when Lebron had forty 1348 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 2: five and Paul had forty one. 1349 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 4: Was that the game said something to Kobe or something 1350 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 4: and it said something to him. 1351 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 2: No, this was against Lebron. No, I mean I mean 1352 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 2: Lebron because he went off. He was here, he was here, 1353 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 2: you were court. 1354 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,439 Speaker 4: I think that's the game. I don't know Doc says 1355 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 4: something to him. I think Doc said something to him 1356 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 4: and got him lit up and he went off. 1357 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 2: Went off. Yeah, he went off. But Paul died to 1358 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 2: Paul game. 1359 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 4: I'm telling people got to put some respect on God 1360 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 4: now because he Paul was like a backyard. He's like 1361 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 4: one of those guys in the backyard. He'll go play 1362 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 4: anywhere in the backyard and just crossing your record and 1363 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 4: check out, let's go. 1364 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:32,479 Speaker 2: And then his little exactly like, come on, man, I said, 1365 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 2: how can every time you hear big three, you be 1366 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 2: going put put some respect on my name? He goes, 1367 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 2: I didn't do that? Did the truth? Was the truth? 1368 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Go right there? 1369 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1370 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 4: I'm big boy, big boy put out. 1371 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 2: I had a thirty four on that thing. Baby, how. 1372 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 4: Man, look you still go? But you know, I want 1373 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 4: to get to so bad, but I moved around so much. 1374 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 4: But hopefully this year I can we been spending some 1375 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 4: time up here. But I grew up with Celtics, Like 1376 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 4: you know, I'm not one of those guys want to claim, like, no, 1377 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 4: I grew up p Celtic when I say I used 1378 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 4: to watch Larry mchal and Parish, like I grew up 1379 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 4: watching them. So I fell in love with Boston just 1380 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 4: because of that. And then we come back and get 1381 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 4: you know. 1382 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 2: KG and Paul and with Ray Ray's like, man, I 1383 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 2: was in heaven. 1384 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm watching, I'm watching, I'm I'm I'm in 1385 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 4: the city in Title Town right and watching one of 1386 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 4: the greatest organizations ever in basketball. And I grew up 1387 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 4: watching them, Like I couldn't have been any happier, you 1388 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So they bring me so much 1389 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 4: joy over the years just being a part of And 1390 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 4: that's one thing people have to understand. 1391 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 2: It's like. 1392 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 4: Maybe it was God and maybe it was in his 1393 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 4: will because I grew up watching and seeing and stuff. 1394 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 4: And when I got drafted by the New England Patriots, 1395 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 4: the first thing I said, where is that I'm like 1396 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 4: that in England? Is that the new part of England? 1397 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:06,519 Speaker 2: You know? 1398 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,400 Speaker 4: So I had no idea that was in Boston. There 1399 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 4: was like, oh, it's where the Celtics play Boston. I'm like, 1400 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 4: oh yeah, okay, y, I'll be good because I'm like 1401 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 4: I'm a ball now. 1402 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 2: You know, how did you become a Celtics fan? I 1403 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 2: don't know. It was something. So I was a Celtis 1404 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 2: fan and I was a Buffalo Bills fan. Yep. Growing up. 1405 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 2: Bruce Smith and Thurman Timms like man, so I grew up. 1406 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 2: So they get drafted and they were hell good for 1407 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Yeah. 1408 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 4: So when I got here, I was I was like 1409 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 4: a kid in the kings to so you so you 1410 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 4: tell me I can go see my my team play. 1411 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 2: Man. Look here, man, I can't beat that, can't beat it. 1412 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 2: We were literally that'll this will never happen again, being 1413 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 2: able to be an athlete in a city where we're 1414 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 2: showing up to championship games with the Super Bowl rings. 1415 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 2: And I'm not just saying one we're basking ball hockey Pa. 1416 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,640 Speaker 2: It's just it was such a fun time. This is 1417 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 2: you know what we have here in Boston's special. Man. 1418 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 4: It's not a lot of cities half what we have 1419 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 4: now you have a couple of them, but man, to 1420 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 4: be able to do it in all sports. 1421 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 2: What we did. It's unbelievable. No, it is. It's it's 1422 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 2: freaking awesome to be for a reason it is. We'll 1423 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 2: be right back after this quick break, Jackie. Let's jump 1424 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 2: into this game, and let's jump into these New York Jets. 1425 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 6: Let's run through these jets real quick. Six and ten. 1426 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 6: The fourth year of the Rex Ryan era. Tony Sparana 1427 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 6: running that offense, Mike Petnan the defense coming off. Two 1428 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 6: years before this, I mean they were in the AFC 1429 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 6: title game. Yeah, I mean yeah, like. 1430 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 2: They knocked us off. We were fourteen too, those fucking 1431 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 2: ay so we beat the ship out of them, I 1432 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:56,640 Speaker 2: mean sixteen. I know, mister can't wait, I know you 1433 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 2: remember that with our Scott can't wait, But can you 1434 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 2: remember you? Did you see when Barscott got in Billyo's 1435 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 2: face and said fuck you whiteboar or something like. Billy 1436 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 2: O's he going no, I did, Bido ain't gonna back down. 1437 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,360 Speaker 2: He won't back down, bro. I was like right there 1438 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:16,839 Speaker 2: because I was going to head next to the personnel 1439 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 2: groups and ship. Barscott, during a TV timeout or something, 1440 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 2: literally came up face to face to Billy O and 1441 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 2: tried to fuck you something like that. Oh man, it 1442 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 2: was the funniest I was. 1443 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 6: Like, man, this is fucking oh my god. Nothing like 1444 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 6: some coaches and players John I love oh man. Uh 1445 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,639 Speaker 6: this was this was our first losing season since seven, 1446 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 6: So this speaks to kind of a little run the 1447 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 6: Jets were having in this era. Offense ranked thirtieth, not 1448 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,840 Speaker 6: allowed to show their good defense though again still ranked 1449 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 6: eighth in the NFL, and lt the lost lt H. 1450 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,839 Speaker 6: He retired in June before this season, so the backfield 1451 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 6: was more of a ballel Powell Joe McKnight kind of 1452 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,719 Speaker 6: two headed monster there, and Sean Green had other names 1453 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 6: on here, Sanchez, Braylen Edwards, yet Jeremy Curley still got 1454 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 6: Bart Scott out there. 1455 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 2: I mean this is Grimarty. They had a really good defense, 1456 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah they did. They always they always care. I mean 1457 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,519 Speaker 2: Rix was a great defensive coach. Just they didn't have 1458 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 2: a quarterback. I don't know if that's my guy, but 1459 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,160 Speaker 2: it's a quarterback lea. 1460 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 6: If we're talking about the trenches in this episode too, 1461 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 6: they had oh the Brickashaw Ferguson up front, Nick. 1462 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 2: Big there. 1463 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 4: You know, like Nick is probably the best center that 1464 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 4: I played against, hands down. 1465 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 2: Why because he had everything. 1466 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 4: He had every tool, he had, the strength, he had 1467 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 4: the size, he was smart, he was just he was 1468 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 4: a leader. He knew the game. He was a really 1469 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 4: really really good center. Hands down, the top center I 1470 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 4: ever played paid against. No, hands down. 1471 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 2: When you guys are playing, is it like competitive ship 1472 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 2: talk or is it quiet? You guys know, it's you 1473 01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 2: guys have a mutual respect. 1474 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, like we we never crept talk with each other like, 1475 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 4: none of that. It was always respect always and we 1476 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,080 Speaker 4: played hard. 1477 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, man, he was he was a problem. Yeah, yeah, 1478 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 3: I remember what was always talking about him. 1479 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 4: Yeah he was. 1480 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,720 Speaker 2: He was a problem man. 1481 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 4: And because you got to understand, a lot of centers 1482 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 4: get help, but they could leave Nick alone sometimes. 1483 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was good. Now, what were your thoughts on 1484 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 2: Rex Ryan back back in these days. I ain't had 1485 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 2: no thoughts of it. 1486 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 5: I mean. 1487 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 2: It wasn't no really, no big deal. 1488 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 4: I mean everything I heard about him, his players and 1489 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,880 Speaker 4: stuff love him and stuff like, he wasn't nothing personal 1490 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 4: with Rex. But it's just I know his personality. But 1491 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 4: at the same time, it's like it really I wasn't 1492 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 4: playing with Rex, I wasn't playing you know against him. 1493 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,639 Speaker 2: It is what it is there? Now, how much did 1494 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 2: we hate the Jets? And we hated the Jets. It 1495 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 2: was like we hated the Jets. People people sleep on 1496 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,400 Speaker 2: that loan. 1497 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,599 Speaker 4: And the crazy thing is I told Bill one day, 1498 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 4: I said, coach, you know you have to let you 1499 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 4: got to kind of let. 1500 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 2: Us know, like why, what's the what's the why? You know? 1501 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 2: Because I mean, you know, when we know Jets coming up, 1502 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 2: we're like if the. 1503 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 4: Jets, but why, like why we gotta be like so 1504 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 4: he kind of explained to us and like, Okay, we 1505 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,600 Speaker 4: got you, like, but we just wanted to while like 1506 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 4: we're going to ride for you, Bill, but at the 1507 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 4: same time and like you're telling me. 1508 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,679 Speaker 2: To do something to talk trash to somebody. I don't 1509 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 2: even know why it was. What is the why? I know? 1510 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 2: But uh it's you know, you know, but how you 1511 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,799 Speaker 2: know it is you know everybody had. 1512 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 4: That one team division. Yeah, one team you know, so 1513 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 4: there's a lot. Yeah, man, but Bill hated him, did 1514 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 4: boy with a passion. Let's get into these, uh Patriots. 1515 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:52,720 Speaker 2: Let's get in there. 1516 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 6: Speaking of Bill, these were the New England Patriots led 1517 01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 6: by coach Bill Belichick. 1518 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:57,639 Speaker 2: Twelve and four. 1519 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 6: Josh mc gaanields running the offense, Maddy, you run the defense. 1520 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,879 Speaker 6: Coming off that Super Bowl lost to the Giants, brutal 1521 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,480 Speaker 6: and then in November Big One acquired. 1522 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 2: To Keep to Leave. That was huge. Gotta love keep. Uh. 1523 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 6: Notable rookies on this team, Chandler Jones, Donte, Hi Tower, 1524 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 6: Nate Ebner. It's pretty good draft class. And we talked 1525 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 6: about this early. This was like an all star team. 1526 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,920 Speaker 6: Five hundred and fifty seven total points, just whooping up 1527 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 6: on people, putting up numbers. Tenth consecutive ten plus win season. 1528 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a squad man like dang Brandon Lloyd? 1529 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:33,439 Speaker 2: Did that be Lloyd? Lloyd Branch Wes Welker. He Lloyd 1530 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 2: was low key one of the best route runners I 1531 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 2: ever played with. Yeah, he was so you remember he 1532 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 2: was like smooth the pink panther out there. Like we 1533 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 2: had a squad, how about a keep to leave? How 1534 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 2: fun of a teammate was he? He was great? 1535 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 4: You know what the crazy thing is, I remember when 1536 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,759 Speaker 4: we played against Tampa and uh yeah, yeah. 1537 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I hate him and. 1538 01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 1: Leave. 1539 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, I'm from down in this way. We 1540 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,479 Speaker 4: don't we don't play this game as soon as he 1541 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 4: comes to the lock, we traded for him. We looked 1542 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 4: at each other. We chopped it up. We started laughing. 1543 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I'm glad you're going our scarf. Man, 1544 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 4: let's go do this. Remember the first game he got 1545 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,200 Speaker 4: a pick? Oh yeah, and I'm like he was out 1546 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 4: of Yeah. I had to get him in shape. 1547 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was the one who was running one one with. 1548 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 4: Great team mabe. I love I love to leave man right. 1549 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:28,440 Speaker 4: He's funny too, was funny. He was so fun great teammates. 1550 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 4: I mean, I love guys that has a mentality of hey, 1551 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,360 Speaker 4: whatever it takes to win. That's what we did, is 1552 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,760 Speaker 4: we're gonna wear a chip on our shoulder. I want 1553 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 4: you to match it. And we had that. That's the 1554 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 4: thing we had. You know, we had guys. 1555 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 3: It's just like I was ready to bite, bite a 1556 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:45,720 Speaker 3: chunk out of your neck. 1557 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 2: We didn't care, you know what I mean, We didn't 1558 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 2: cut out. No. I just have one another question, random, like, 1559 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 2: what did you and Randy used to talk about in 1560 01:16:54,439 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 2: stretch line? Me and Randy anything other than football? Anything cats? Yeah. 1561 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 2: I remember we used to break up offense and defense 1562 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 2: and Randy would be over in the defense with a 1563 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 2: big V. Yeah. 1564 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 4: We we used to talk about nothing and you remember 1565 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 4: every what it was? Every Friday me and him had 1566 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 4: our one on one we did. We used to do 1567 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 4: our one on one every Friday. But man, we used 1568 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,640 Speaker 4: to man plain that what do you mean to one 1569 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,599 Speaker 4: on one? So Randy would be a dB, I would 1570 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 4: be a receiver and Pet would be the quarterback. So 1571 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 4: I would run routes and Randy guard me. You know, 1572 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 4: that was our every Friday. 1573 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 2: How many who won them? 1574 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 5: Me? 1575 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 2: Every time? I want majority of them? 1576 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah he had a couple of them, but I want 1577 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:41,679 Speaker 4: the majority about eighty percent? 1578 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,600 Speaker 2: Want? Yeah, I beat him that? Did you ever have 1579 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 2: to cover him? No? That wasn't that was That wasn't 1580 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 2: the rulee. 1581 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 4: I didn't ask him to be an offensive line, so 1582 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 4: I'm like, you can't play you opposite. 1583 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,200 Speaker 2: We both out of position. Do you remember Randy get 1584 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,040 Speaker 2: watching Like didn't he watch Dateline every Friday night or 1585 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:02,599 Speaker 2: something and explain He would explain it to the receivers 1586 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 2: and the receiver meeting for like the whole receiver meeting 1587 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 2: on Saturday would be Randy breaking down what I was 1588 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 2: on Dateline or six love that and then this motherfucker 1589 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:17,759 Speaker 2: tried to cut this thing off, like I like a rookie, 1590 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, how was it going against 1591 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,719 Speaker 2: Dante Scarnekio offensive line. 1592 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 3: I love Scar scar I love and one of the 1593 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 3: best teammates I ever had. 1594 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,599 Speaker 2: It's logan makings. Oh man, man, let me tell you, 1595 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,680 Speaker 2: that's probably the best teammate I had. I love just 1596 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 2: because of what he stood. It's just he's a man's 1597 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:51,240 Speaker 2: man like. He's just tough, lovable, just a rider, like 1598 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 2: you fight for you Yeah, Like I don't care who 1599 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,160 Speaker 2: you are if you're a Patriot and you meant, oh, 1600 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 2: it's going down. But it was just his mentality and 1601 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 2: he was just a great football player. He's just a 1602 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:05,439 Speaker 2: tough player. Yeah. I love players that's durable and just tough. 1603 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 2: I love tough players. 1604 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 4: Give me a tough player any day over anybody with 1605 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,240 Speaker 4: talent it that's not tough, give it to me. 1606 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:18,720 Speaker 2: Simple as that he was also is uh. He he 1607 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 2: would wear the same thing every day. 1608 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,559 Speaker 4: That's my type of guy. Like, come in from hunting. 1609 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,519 Speaker 4: Remember how him and Matt Life used to come in 1610 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 4: from hunting with blood on, Like it's the craziest thing ever. Like, 1611 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 4: I love that you know, they come in shower up. 1612 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 4: They got blood. They just killed some turkeys or whatever. 1613 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,920 Speaker 2: Remember when they brought the duck and put it in 1614 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 2: Donald Thomas'. 1615 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 4: You remember when it was Matt Castle and Tom going 1616 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,040 Speaker 4: back and forth. 1617 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,599 Speaker 1: I wasn't around for that. Oh my god, what happened? 1618 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 1: They was going back and forth pranking each other. 1619 01:19:55,320 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 4: So so I think Matt Phil Tom carb all of. 1620 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 3: These little bubbles the peanuts peanuts. So Tom took his 1621 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,680 Speaker 3: tires and hit him everywhere and hit him. So he 1622 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 3: had three tires and still was looking for one. It 1623 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:10,639 Speaker 3: was in the bubble. 1624 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,799 Speaker 4: So Bill finally like, look, guys, she stopped screwing around. 1625 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you plead too much playing. It's getting out of the trill, 1626 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 2: just kidd. So Bill had to put a stop to it. Man, 1627 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 2: it was going for weeks. It was going, dude, they were. 1628 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm like, dude, when I was when I 1629 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:33,400 Speaker 4: tell you some of my most funniest times in life, 1630 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,560 Speaker 4: it's on a football fielding in the locker room, you 1631 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:36,960 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 1632 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,360 Speaker 2: So people always ask me, do you miss the game? 1633 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you know, I missed my teammates in 1634 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,160 Speaker 2: the locker room and the fans. That's what I miss. 1635 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,559 Speaker 2: I don't miss the game itself. 1636 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,479 Speaker 4: I missed the camaraderie just hanging out in the locker 1637 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 4: room two three hours after we finished and just sitting 1638 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,559 Speaker 4: down and drinking gatorade and just hanging out in the 1639 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 4: locker room like it's nothing believing at seven o'clock, eight o'clock, 1640 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,479 Speaker 4: that's twenty of us, you know. And uh, that's how 1641 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 4: you build camaraderie. That's how you build a team full 1642 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 4: of leaders and understanding what it takes to win. 1643 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 2: We had that, we did. 1644 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 4: We had that and you could tell the teams now 1645 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,839 Speaker 4: who have that in their locker room how they play, 1646 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 4: you know. So that's what I'm hoping to see from 1647 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,880 Speaker 4: this new era in New England is just bring that 1648 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 4: camaraderie bag brain. 1649 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 2: Put football first like we used main thing, the main thing. 1650 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 4: Exactly because a lot of times now it's more stuff 1651 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,520 Speaker 4: outside of football people concerned about and football is secondary. 1652 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 2: It's it's tougher for these younger kids too though. They're 1653 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,680 Speaker 2: getting thrown this cheddar in so many different ways. And 1654 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,400 Speaker 2: it's such a pivotal thing to have your social team, 1655 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,200 Speaker 2: your fucking brand. And I mean, I'm a product to it. 1656 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah right, but I still keep the main thing that 1657 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,400 Speaker 2: you know, it's just that's that's the factor you have to. 1658 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 4: And that's how and that's why I retire it because 1659 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 4: I saw the rookies coming in and I just didn't. 1660 01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,200 Speaker 4: I don't like what they stood for it, and I'm like, 1661 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 4: this is not how I. I came through and I 1662 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,040 Speaker 4: learned the ball and played football like football is first. Well, 1663 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,519 Speaker 4: God is first, then football, you know what I'm saying. 1664 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 4: But day was coming in. Football wasn't even on the radar. 1665 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,880 Speaker 4: We would have guys leave the locker room, didn't even 1666 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 4: shaow drop their clothes and head and night. 1667 01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 3: What's shower pill like, right, full shower it is, Brady. 1668 01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 2: Let's through the gotcha, Let's through the game, all right? 1669 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 6: Leading into this when the Pats were right in a 1670 01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,360 Speaker 6: little bit of a slow start, started out one and two, 1671 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 6: lost through the first three, but got back on track. 1672 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 6: They're coming into this thing seven and three. The Jets 1673 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,560 Speaker 6: meanwhile four and six, trying to find some hope and 1674 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:41,759 Speaker 6: salvage this season. 1675 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,479 Speaker 2: But as we know, that did not happen. First uh, 1676 01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,879 Speaker 2: first quarters, scoreless Thanksgiving Game. 1677 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:51,720 Speaker 6: Thanksgiving Thanksgiving Game, Primetime fellas, what's it like playing on Thanksgiving? 1678 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,679 Speaker 2: I like it. It was cool. I mean it's it's 1679 01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 2: tough playing on the road on Thanksgiving. 1680 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, But you know what, at the end 1681 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 4: of the day, it's like, you know, business is business. 1682 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 2: We got to do what we gotta do. That's right. 1683 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,000 Speaker 4: But I would rather be home on Thanksgiving than playing 1684 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,400 Speaker 4: the game. I would tell you that me too. But 1685 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,240 Speaker 4: I always also thought of it as like. 1686 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,519 Speaker 2: When we were home in kids, we would be at home, 1687 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 2: we were watching football, but we'd all be playing football 1688 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,040 Speaker 2: before the football games and before the feast. So it 1689 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 2: was like a privilege that we're playing pro football fucking Thanksgiving. 1690 01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 4: And I always was a big believer, like any prime 1691 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,160 Speaker 4: time game, you the only show on, so you have 1692 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,960 Speaker 4: to show up, you know. So Thanksgiving that was one 1693 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,080 Speaker 4: of those things like, man, this is Thanksgiving then, you know, 1694 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:37,960 Speaker 4: like turkeylate, who gonna get the turkey list? 1695 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 2: Now? So yeah, it's like it was. 1696 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,200 Speaker 4: It's a big deal. Especially in the football community. It's 1697 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:44,759 Speaker 4: like Thanksgiving football games. 1698 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 2: People look forward to that one thousand Now before we 1699 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,680 Speaker 2: get into this game. What's what's the will Fork household 1700 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,439 Speaker 2: look like during Thanksgiving? What's what's the lineup of food? 1701 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 4: What the craziest thing is, I don't eat the way 1702 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,840 Speaker 4: I used to eat, no more, but I still cook. 1703 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 3: But it's like I'm smoking. I'm smoking turkey. We have 1704 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 3: we haven't dressing. We have some mac and cheese. We 1705 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 3: have probably some red beans and rice. 1706 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,960 Speaker 2: Dressing for you white people. That's stuffing, you know, red 1707 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:16,720 Speaker 2: beans and rice and might have a roast roast. Yeah. 1708 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 4: And then you know you got all the desserts. You 1709 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,760 Speaker 4: got the apple pie, right, you got to sweep tat 1710 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,439 Speaker 4: the pile and you got cakes. So that's rocking like that. 1711 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,840 Speaker 2: What's the gravy situation? Red beans and rice they got 1712 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 2: they got his own juices, so you put that juice 1713 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 2: on the turkey. Yeah, man, look here, man, I told 1714 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 2: h I'm smoking my turkey. It's going to be so yeah. 1715 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:45,679 Speaker 2: Red bean rice, baby, we don't even know gravy. I've 1716 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:50,719 Speaker 2: been man, Yes, I had it before. What's linman? Things giving? 1717 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 2: Like for the offensive linean thanksgiving? Is there the defensive? 1718 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,639 Speaker 2: Did you ever have defense defensive guys at the house? 1719 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,280 Speaker 4: Yes, probably sometimes, But the same thing like back then, 1720 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 4: I cooked a lot more because I had, you know, 1721 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 4: had a dang on team to feed, you know, so 1722 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 4: everybody knew when it was time to eat or holiday, 1723 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 4: and we had to be in town. 1724 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,320 Speaker 2: They know where to come, you know. So we would 1725 01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 2: sit out there, we eat all. 1726 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:20,080 Speaker 4: Day and share good stories, you know, and just hang 1727 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,799 Speaker 4: out like we always found ways to. And it sounded 1728 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,160 Speaker 4: like offense had they thing right. 1729 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 1: But you know, you did crossover everywhere, you know what 1730 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:31,679 Speaker 1: I mean. 1731 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 2: I went with Randy. Randy used to go to your 1732 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,439 Speaker 2: house a bunch, and so I went with Randy once 1733 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,320 Speaker 2: to the Big V's man. 1734 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,320 Speaker 4: Like it was over to everybody like I care less, 1735 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,639 Speaker 4: like you know, my teammates was my teammates. 1736 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,640 Speaker 6: That sounds awesome. Yeah, yeah, Should we run through this 1737 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,920 Speaker 6: game through all right? We started this thing off in 1738 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 6: the second with a guy that was Johnny on the 1739 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,680 Speaker 6: Spot all night. Steve Gregory picks off, saying cheeto. That 1740 01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,920 Speaker 6: sets up our first touchdown the game, Brady to Welker 1741 01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 6: up seven to nothing. Sean Green fumbles, who is it 1742 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,080 Speaker 6: this time again? Johnny on the Spot's. 1743 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,519 Speaker 2: Steve Gregor Steven covers the. 1744 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,120 Speaker 6: Balalf the Sean Green fum will pardon me? Then a 1745 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:10,280 Speaker 6: little swing pass Freeing goes eighty three up fourteen nothing 1746 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,720 Speaker 6: that brings us to the moment. We're all here for 1747 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,720 Speaker 6: a moment that still lives an infamy. Nine minutes and 1748 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 6: eleven seconds left in the second quarter, Jet's thirty one 1749 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 6: yard line. Mark Sanchiez goes back for what looks like 1750 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,639 Speaker 6: a handoff, a bit of a broken play, scrambles forward. 1751 01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 6: He meets Brandon Moore's but the ball is out. Who 1752 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,760 Speaker 6: is it again? To recover it? Steve Gregory back to 1753 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,720 Speaker 6: the house twenty one nothing. We got to dive into 1754 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:36,320 Speaker 6: this moment though. 1755 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 2: And the funny thing is we started this episode by 1756 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:43,599 Speaker 2: talking about two gap, Yes, and that right there is Well, 1757 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,800 Speaker 2: the definition of two gap is when you blow him 1758 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 2: up so much that it runs the runner into the 1759 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,640 Speaker 2: block or that's like that's called recreating the line of scrimmage. 1760 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,519 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, give us peak for beat. Well, it's fight 1761 01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,559 Speaker 4: presser with pressa right, So it's like, you. 1762 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:04,160 Speaker 2: Knowressure with pressure, meaning the offensive line guys pushing pressure 1763 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 2: at one direction on Big V trying to probably wall 1764 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 2: them off in a certain direction. So Big V's got 1765 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 2: to put that pressure against that because he wants to 1766 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 2: attack that area. 1767 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,280 Speaker 4: Right, right, You want to always fight pressure with pressure 1768 01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,760 Speaker 4: because that kind of tell you where the ball is 1769 01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:22,120 Speaker 4: supposed to go and that and like I say, and 1770 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,519 Speaker 4: on that play, honestly, you know, Nick didn't come directly 1771 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 4: at me aggressive and and and Brandon didn't come to 1772 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,320 Speaker 4: me directly, you know, aggressive, So I was stuck, like, Okay, 1773 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 4: who the attack? Remember right, I have two gaps, so 1774 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,800 Speaker 4: who'd attack? I can't attack this guy and be out 1775 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,280 Speaker 4: of gap. And I can't attack this guy because so 1776 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,879 Speaker 4: in that millisecond, it's like I had to make a decision. 1777 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,920 Speaker 4: So if you see, I was basically in the middle 1778 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,920 Speaker 4: of that gap with both of them and trying to understand. 1779 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 4: And once Nick I felt Nick kind of leave, I 1780 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 4: knew then I had to fight back, and he had 1781 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 4: Brandon it was on my shoulder, so that's why it's 1782 01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,120 Speaker 4: like I kind of trying to get my arms back 1783 01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 4: and press. And once I pressed, that's where but before 1784 01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 4: my half because I guess that gap closed fast enough 1785 01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,599 Speaker 4: for Sanchez and he didn't realize how fast it was closing. 1786 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,439 Speaker 2: So that's what happened on that play. 1787 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:16,120 Speaker 7: Brother, Oh, did you feel Mark Sanchez running to the 1788 01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 7: offensive lineman through you or no? 1789 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:22,679 Speaker 4: No, I just I just felt once I press Brandon 1790 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 4: fell and then when I looked up the ball was gone. 1791 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, fumble, you know, but I didn't know 1792 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,280 Speaker 4: he ran into his butt and it fumbled like that. 1793 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,280 Speaker 2: You know, I had no idea. Can you imagine being 1794 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:36,439 Speaker 2: that strong? Listen, listen, three hundred and we'll say in 1795 01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:41,679 Speaker 2: conservative league, forty five pounds that's perfect. Other side three 1796 01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 2: hundred probably at most three fifteen, so the pounds of pressure. Yeah, 1797 01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,720 Speaker 2: that these two men are literally trying to kill each 1798 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,280 Speaker 2: other for. And Big V is so strong. Another two 1799 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen pounds hits that and he doesn't feel it. 1800 01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:01,880 Speaker 2: You gotta be fucking strong for that. And that's what like, 1801 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 2: I just remember Big V. Would I would see Big 1802 01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,800 Speaker 2: V come in the weight room and just put as 1803 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 2: many plates as you can see on the thing, do 1804 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,880 Speaker 2: is like four sets, and then just dip out like 1805 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,920 Speaker 2: that's how strong? Now? You gotta be fucking strong to me, 1806 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,040 Speaker 2: that's a real man right there. Yeah, that's a man. 1807 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 6: And then after this play we get what caps off 1808 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:28,120 Speaker 6: twenty one points in fifty two seconds, Jewels takes the 1809 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 6: ensuing kickoff to the house after you're blown up, catches 1810 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:31,760 Speaker 6: it off his. 1811 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,680 Speaker 2: Hailmet Dev runs it back in there and rip Mignight. Man, 1812 01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,719 Speaker 2: that's sad. My guy's not here, but you know dot 1813 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:43,880 Speaker 2: Devin hits him. Good players gotta be in the right here, 1814 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,720 Speaker 2: right they were ready, right time, you were ready. Come on. 1815 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 2: Then you add it on a fifty six yard touchdown 1816 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:51,360 Speaker 2: from Brady. What a bomb? 1817 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,800 Speaker 6: Thirty five nothing, Pats are up. Jets get on the 1818 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,040 Speaker 6: board in the half, thirty five to three. And then, 1819 01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,320 Speaker 6: speaking of big hits, Jewels gets knocked out to start 1820 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 6: the third quarter. 1821 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, shut out, la Ron Landry. Sorry, big ass motherfucker. 1822 01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,519 Speaker 2: You know what. And that's the football gods right there. 1823 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,960 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because sometimes when you yourself, Yeah, 1824 01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:16,040 Speaker 2: I'm still a young ballplayer at two touchdowns, doing some shit, good, 1825 01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,760 Speaker 2: feeling good. I'm gonna take this reverse. I'm gonna try 1826 01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:23,080 Speaker 2: to cut it back into all the pursuit. Reset button complete. 1827 01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,240 Speaker 2: I don't even remember the game. You played really well. 1828 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,200 Speaker 2: I played really well early Thanksgiving for you there, brother. 1829 01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:29,880 Speaker 5: Uh. 1830 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 6: And then we in miss thing forty nine to nineteen. 1831 01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,320 Speaker 6: Big V's out there getting the turkey leg tom everybody, 1832 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 6: how that taste? 1833 01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:42,120 Speaker 2: How's that turkey legs? Good? Yeah? It was cool? Yeah, 1834 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:43,959 Speaker 2: I always thought about that. 1835 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:45,280 Speaker 4: It was cold, but I was like, I don't want 1836 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,400 Speaker 4: to be on National TV just killing this whole thing. 1837 01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:49,120 Speaker 2: Let me just going on. Just take a bite and 1838 01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,720 Speaker 2: going by my business. Was it seasoned? D was it like? 1839 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 2: If it was warm? I would ate off? Yeah, yeah 1840 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 2: it was. It was good. Yeah it was good. I'm 1841 01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,880 Speaker 2: a hot food guy too. I need my food burning hot. 1842 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 4: Some stuff, some stuff if I can eat cold, like 1843 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 4: I'm not a big fan, like I. 1844 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,880 Speaker 2: Don't care, Like what is what can you eat cold? 1845 01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:05,000 Speaker 5: Like? 1846 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,439 Speaker 2: I can eat chicken wings cold? I can eat pizza cold. Yeah, 1847 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,360 Speaker 2: eat I can spaghetti cold. I can eat pizza cold. 1848 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,720 Speaker 2: But it tastes better if you do like. 1849 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it tastes of course it's gonna taste better if 1850 01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,320 Speaker 4: you warm it up. But I'm just telling you what 1851 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 4: I eat cold. 1852 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I'm a hot I like my 1853 01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,640 Speaker 2: food like literally the point where it's burning the top. 1854 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,559 Speaker 4: And that's how my wife is. I'm like, how can you? 1855 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,680 Speaker 4: I like to listen when it comes to food. When 1856 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,200 Speaker 4: I sit down and eat, I want to sit down 1857 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:34,760 Speaker 4: and eat and enjoy it. I don't got time to 1858 01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,200 Speaker 4: be blowing and waiting five minutes, like I don't got 1859 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,840 Speaker 4: time for that. Once I take one bite, I want 1860 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:46,160 Speaker 4: to continue to eat. I don't want to be I 1861 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,200 Speaker 4: don't want to do that. That's wasting my time. 1862 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,240 Speaker 2: I get it. So that's why I like, give me 1863 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,760 Speaker 2: mine warm and I'm good to go. I don't need it. 1864 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:58,320 Speaker 2: Piping hot man, No, is this the funniest play in 1865 01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,760 Speaker 2: the history of the national Footballer? Oh? I don't know. 1866 01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,080 Speaker 2: It's gotta be. There's that other Patriots Colts play. I 1867 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,400 Speaker 2: think that was pretty good. That punt whatever the hell 1868 01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:13,000 Speaker 2: that was? Which one? Remember them? The punt formation that 1869 01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,519 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts tried to do on a fourth and two? 1870 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,479 Speaker 2: That like, yeah, in Indy when we were sitting there 1871 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 2: like they're not gonna do this, They're not gonna was 1872 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,559 Speaker 2: they did this? Yeah? I think that was yeah, yeah, yeah, 1873 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,480 Speaker 2: I don't understand that one to this day. Those guys. 1874 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,960 Speaker 2: This one was very emblematic. They did it as QB 1875 01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:39,439 Speaker 2: sneak when it's four on two. Where is that supposed 1876 01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,080 Speaker 2: to work? I don't think he was supposed to Damn 1877 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 2: near five. You got Ebner looking right over there like 1878 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,840 Speaker 2: it's that's the weirdest thing. Slate dog. Oh my god. 1879 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,400 Speaker 2: But the butt fumble is apropos to the Jets. 1880 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I think, just because it's the Jets, 1881 01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:56,680 Speaker 4: that's is like. 1882 01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what that much. But Jets have a 1883 01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:04,120 Speaker 2: couple of clips. Yeah, it's called their entire franchise. Remember 1884 01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,760 Speaker 2: when we see ghost clip? Oh that was Donald How 1885 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,240 Speaker 2: do you let that out? He's miked up? Yeah, but 1886 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,240 Speaker 2: why is there people letting that get out? That's what 1887 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's some bullshit Bears. Oh my god? Oh 1888 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,439 Speaker 2: all right, what's the what's the legacy of this game? 1889 01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:23,719 Speaker 2: Week thirteen, Jules. 1890 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 6: This is the aftermath broke your foot against Miami. Bummer 1891 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,439 Speaker 6: hated to see that. The Pats would get the number 1892 01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,480 Speaker 6: two seed in the AFC, beat Houston in the playoffs, 1893 01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,559 Speaker 6: then lose to Baltimore in the AFC Championship Game twenty 1894 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:36,320 Speaker 6: eight to thirteen. 1895 01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,080 Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, Vince. 1896 01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:42,679 Speaker 6: Would sign with Houston and then retire in twenty sixteen 1897 01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:43,639 Speaker 6: after a heck of a career. 1898 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was that was my sign off. Yeah. 1899 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 2: It was fun. 1900 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,559 Speaker 4: It was fun, you know, my football career was fun. 1901 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,200 Speaker 4: I got a chance to see some meet some great people, 1902 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,920 Speaker 4: and I played for two good organizations. You know, even Houston, 1903 01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,800 Speaker 4: like Houston is, you know, they they trying to know 1904 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,600 Speaker 4: what it takes learning and I think they find to 1905 01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,519 Speaker 4: a point now where they really have some you know, 1906 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,600 Speaker 4: some turnaround, uh you know, organization and gear towards the 1907 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:16,040 Speaker 4: right way of what it takes to win. So and 1908 01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:23,479 Speaker 4: of Courtunate were getting back to winning. So we got there. Yeah, 1909 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 4: he's like, yeah, he's they're putting together, man Like, they 1910 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:33,120 Speaker 4: have the mentality and understanding. So it's gonna be good 1911 01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:36,800 Speaker 4: to see both of these teams many next couple of 1912 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,200 Speaker 4: years of what they're going to turn out to look like. 1913 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,519 Speaker 2: You know, how how is it playing next to JJ 1914 01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,000 Speaker 2: watt Man? It was pretty cool. Is he a monster? 1915 01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah he's a monster. Yeah he's he's he's special. Yeah, 1916 01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:48,360 Speaker 2: he's special. 1917 01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,479 Speaker 4: Like he he just played hard. 1918 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,559 Speaker 2: He plays hard. And once again it's like you're around. 1919 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,320 Speaker 4: You get a chance when I retire, you get a 1920 01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,400 Speaker 4: chance to say, Okay, all these guys I play with, 1921 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,840 Speaker 4: you know, and and you go to JJ. It's like, 1922 01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,000 Speaker 4: I mean I used to line up and practice with 1923 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:08,840 Speaker 4: this guy, so I see the work he put in 1924 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,559 Speaker 4: and he works, Yeah, he works. So I was lucky. 1925 01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,880 Speaker 4: Even Chandler like, you know, line up with Chandler just 1926 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:19,320 Speaker 4: to see what he was. I mean, it's amazing Junior Sail, 1927 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:25,320 Speaker 4: you know Seymour, you know Warren, and you know Tom 1928 01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:29,720 Speaker 4: and I mean it's Liz, Randy and Kevin Fall all 1929 01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,559 Speaker 4: these guys that you know in history. It's like when 1930 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:36,400 Speaker 4: you say their name, you know. But having the lusture 1931 01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,880 Speaker 4: to play with everybody. Man, I have some great teammates. 1932 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 2: Man. Well, I mean you bridged both the guy yeah, 1933 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,200 Speaker 2: I mean you played you won with the first one 1934 01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:47,240 Speaker 2: in the second Dynasty. Only one other player did that 1935 01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:47,800 Speaker 2: that it was Tom. 1936 01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I has a great I have some great teammates, man, 1937 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:51,519 Speaker 4: real good teammates. 1938 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,800 Speaker 2: Well, let's let's grade the game. Oh, the name of 1939 01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,519 Speaker 2: the game, there's no other name than the butt. Like 1940 01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,479 Speaker 2: we usually come up with the guests and like, what 1941 01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,920 Speaker 2: do you name? This is the fun. All you gotta 1942 01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,200 Speaker 2: say is but fumble. Everyone remembers this game. Yeah, but 1943 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,240 Speaker 2: it's on Wikipedia page exactly. But Fumble. Have you ever 1944 01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:14,559 Speaker 2: talked with Mark Sanchez about it? No? For what what 1945 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:16,840 Speaker 2: we need to talk about? There's nothing we need to 1946 01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:21,720 Speaker 2: talk about. That's a shipful answer. You could he could 1947 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,280 Speaker 2: have said that. He could have there's nothing to talk about. 1948 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:29,000 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break. Let's score 1949 01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,280 Speaker 2: the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? 1950 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:36,160 Speaker 2: Let's score it? Decimals encouraged big v butt fumble game 1951 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:41,000 Speaker 2: between the Patriots and Jets, Week twelve, twenty twelve, on Thanksgiving. 1952 01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:44,800 Speaker 2: The stakes of this regular season game. 1953 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:49,160 Speaker 4: Game, I don't think it was the greatest game of 1954 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:53,200 Speaker 4: all time. Now, yeah, you got great though, I mean, okay, 1955 01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:57,240 Speaker 4: great stakes one to ten, ten being the most going 1956 01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 4: for like a three peet or something. 1957 01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:02,520 Speaker 2: That's a five man. It's a that's an integrity type 1958 01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,840 Speaker 2: of score. It's an integrity type score. I would say, 1959 01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go five point three, okay, okay when I 1960 01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,000 Speaker 2: think a night game on Thanksgiving raises the stakes just. 1961 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 1: A little bit, okay, okay, okay, I feel that I'm 1962 01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:23,360 Speaker 1: thinking of what you're putting. 1963 01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,519 Speaker 2: Now, let's go with the star power zero to ten 1964 01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:32,320 Speaker 2: decimals encouraged God who he had? Again? See that's that's 1965 01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,599 Speaker 2: that you're saying that it ain't gonna be very high. Yeah, 1966 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:43,799 Speaker 2: like mangle t point two, two point two, that's another 1967 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:48,080 Speaker 2: integrity type score. Two point two, that's an integrity type score. 1968 01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with I gotta go with. I mean, 1969 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,240 Speaker 2: it's still pro football and you still had Rex Ryan. 1970 01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,200 Speaker 2: He had a lot of He was like a W 1971 01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,960 Speaker 2: W E character AFT. I love playing it, like That's 1972 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,479 Speaker 2: what he was like. He like he loved playing that 1973 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,960 Speaker 2: role we did for you. Lenny Kravitz was playing the 1974 01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,639 Speaker 2: halftime shown then he could bump it a little bit. Yeah, 1975 01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,200 Speaker 2: I forgot to mention that I'm gonna go with the 1976 01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,880 Speaker 2: four point one. I want to get up. Oh eight 1977 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 2: point six? 1978 01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:17,840 Speaker 4: Whoa, I'm not sure what at eight point five eighty. 1979 01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,519 Speaker 2: I think I'm I think I'm bumping you. 1980 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,040 Speaker 6: I think you guys are doing all the heavy lifting. 1981 01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:21,800 Speaker 6: My fan boy, this is coming out. 1982 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:26,599 Speaker 2: I think every events. Yeah, yeah, I guess I'll stick 1983 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,920 Speaker 2: with my high eighty six. Yeez. What is the game? 1984 01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:36,599 Speaker 2: The game play zero to ten of this historic day 1985 01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:41,160 Speaker 2: where twenty one points were scored nine seconds. I believe seconds. 1986 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:43,040 Speaker 2: I'm still crazy though, matter. 1987 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:48,760 Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, that's oh gameplay. Yeah, that's about that's about 1988 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:49,879 Speaker 4: an eight point two. 1989 01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:53,160 Speaker 2: Eight point two, A lot of points, yeah, a lot 1990 01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:54,880 Speaker 2: of fun plays, historical plays. 1991 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, and that fifty three sec those three touchdowns offensive, 1992 01:38:58,920 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 7: defensive and specialty. 1993 01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's a recycled Actually, yeah, that's 1994 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,800 Speaker 2: like I'm gonna go with a seven point six. Think 1995 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:08,920 Speaker 2: I might have gone weirdly low here five point seven. 1996 01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,200 Speaker 2: I want five point four. You guys, half of the 1997 01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,360 Speaker 2: game was a five. They got point four. That's how 1998 01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,519 Speaker 2: they were bad. The But we gotta we gotta, we 1999 01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:21,920 Speaker 2: gotta score. The name of the game, the butt fumble game. 2000 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,680 Speaker 2: Oh scored, oh man, teen, that's teen. Yep, that is 2001 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,479 Speaker 2: a unequivalent culture. I'm going ten as well. Everyone knows 2002 01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,040 Speaker 2: that when a ten a nine. 2003 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 7: Point five and we're one five because perfect perfection is 2004 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:36,120 Speaker 7: the we're pursuing perfection. 2005 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:42,080 Speaker 2: They can't reach profess nine point nine. So the final 2006 01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 2: score is six point nine. One came for me, Jack 2007 01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:46,160 Speaker 2: nine one. 2008 01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,559 Speaker 7: We're going on the second slide. It is just behind 2009 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:52,080 Speaker 7: the it's our new seventy eighth game. It's just behind 2010 01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,880 Speaker 7: the twenty nineteen Western Conference semi finals Warriors versus Rockets, 2011 01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,840 Speaker 7: and just ahead of the twenty eleven AFC Division Round 2012 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:00,760 Speaker 7: game Bronxos versus Right here. 2013 01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 2: That feels it feels right. Yeah, it's a it's a 2014 01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:11,640 Speaker 2: Thursday night game, but everyone knows this game. Yeah, and 2015 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,280 Speaker 2: it's a fun game to go over it is. 2016 01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:18,360 Speaker 4: I mean just the fifty three seconds alone, like take 2017 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 4: the butt fumber out those touchdowns in that time frame. 2018 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,000 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. It's crazy. It's it's three different phases of 2019 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,479 Speaker 2: the game. That's like such a bill like exactly like 2020 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:33,600 Speaker 2: wet dream. This is three phases of this is what 2021 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm talking here. Let's play it. I think this is 2022 01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,040 Speaker 2: probably the happiest he's ever been in a post game. 2023 01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 2: I don't remember, but it had to be against it. 2024 01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:50,479 Speaker 2: It's great that let's ring that right, big v We 2025 01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,479 Speaker 2: miss anything of this game? Oh man, No, I don't think. 2026 01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,639 Speaker 2: So everyone's got to go out and check out Vince 2027 01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:00,360 Speaker 2: on will Fork, Vince will Fork at Vince will Fork 2028 01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:01,160 Speaker 2: on Instagram. 2029 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:05,200 Speaker 3: Everyone's gotta go buy Gotta have It, sauce Vince. That's 2030 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:07,880 Speaker 3: that's the g h I seventy five dot com. 2031 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:13,000 Speaker 2: G h I seventy five h E the t A 2032 01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,800 Speaker 2: Doug g h I seventy five dot com. That's put 2033 01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:18,400 Speaker 2: a link here too. You can and we'll put a 2034 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,760 Speaker 2: link up on the g h I. The Gotta have 2035 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:31,040 Speaker 2: It seventy five dot com, The g h I come you, Okay, 2036 01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:34,280 Speaker 2: but I'm just so I gotta have it. Yeah, gotta 2037 01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:41,120 Speaker 2: gotta have I get it, big dog. Thank you. I 2038 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:41,760 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 2039 01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:41,920 Speaker 7: Bro. 2040 01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,639 Speaker 2: I love you, Bro. Always love my man. Thank you guys, 2041 01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:49,120 Speaker 2: Thank you man. That was awesome. What an episode. How 2042 01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,600 Speaker 2: good was that barbecue sauce? Son, By the way, we 2043 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,640 Speaker 2: just did a little movie magic. We had some some 2044 01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:59,840 Speaker 2: of that b b Q sauce. I gotta have Yeah, 2045 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,599 Speaker 2: I got that sweeting spots on my team. 2046 01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:04,040 Speaker 1: Man. 2047 01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:08,360 Speaker 2: That was awesome. So he looks great. He does. I'm 2048 01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,000 Speaker 2: not joking. When Vince would come in and he would 2049 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,880 Speaker 2: put like six hundred pounds on the on the bench, 2050 01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:16,960 Speaker 2: he would squat it and then like bench it and 2051 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,160 Speaker 2: then he was done. That's all you need to do it. 2052 01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:22,519 Speaker 2: No one said anything because it was so much weight. 2053 01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:28,320 Speaker 2: Like all right, this guy he's good in like ten minutes. Yeah, 2054 01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:32,000 Speaker 2: that's awesome. And it was he's and he he's not 2055 01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,679 Speaker 2: lying when he says he was. He was fucking athletic, 2056 01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,439 Speaker 2: like as far as when I said he had feet 2057 01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:39,920 Speaker 2: like a ballerinas, because you don't see big men move 2058 01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,439 Speaker 2: like him. So athletic. So fun to go over those 2059 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:48,160 Speaker 2: fun plays with him to the interception, that was awesomeling. 2060 01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:51,400 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I will say though, I'm gonna steal mable. 2061 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:53,880 Speaker 6: I'm gonna steal that. I'm gonna saying that the time. 2062 01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,800 Speaker 7: It feels like whenever, whenever gets so something like, oh, 2063 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,200 Speaker 7: I don't like swearing anymore, like you like, oh, I'll 2064 01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:02,759 Speaker 7: have to make. 2065 01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:03,000 Speaker 2: Up for you. 2066 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:09,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, just like, yeah, I'm so, I'm not really actually cussing. 2067 01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:12,479 Speaker 6: Maybe I'm gonna sing baby to the curb and making 2068 01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 6: it just my vu now. 2069 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that was fun. All right, It's time for 2070 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:17,760 Speaker 2: the chills down and brought to you by our favorite beer, 2071 01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,280 Speaker 2: Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door 2072 01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,880 Speaker 2: VI is it Coors Light dot com? Slash g w 2073 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:29,000 Speaker 2: N and celebrate responsibly. That was a nice harmony, James. 2074 01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:30,639 Speaker 2: But that was what have we got today. 2075 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:34,559 Speaker 6: Today we are answering your burning questions about the twenty 2076 01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:38,080 Speaker 6: twenty five NFL season, which is upon us. 2077 01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:42,200 Speaker 2: It is here. He loved the overalls, he did. We 2078 01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,040 Speaker 2: really heard that talking about that. I didn't know that 2079 01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,400 Speaker 2: Vince was going to be so friendly and nice. Yeah. 2080 01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:48,799 Speaker 2: I saw the overars delivery. 2081 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,519 Speaker 7: I was like, well, Frank, I'm not going on all right, 2082 01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,799 Speaker 7: let's get into it, so so we have no questions 2083 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:54,639 Speaker 7: about the season. 2084 01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:56,920 Speaker 2: It's it's here, been to a couple of years. You've 2085 01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,360 Speaker 2: been traveling, You've been seeing some preseasons. So see, Jeel's 2086 01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:04,240 Speaker 2: got some takes. Jules Matt from originally. 2087 01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:09,720 Speaker 5: Chicago calling again asking you what is it going to 2088 01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,840 Speaker 5: take for the Bears to take the next step this year? 2089 01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,040 Speaker 5: I personally do not think Caleb Williams is the answer. 2090 01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:19,320 Speaker 5: Things moved too fast in the NFL, but they have 2091 01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:24,479 Speaker 5: the fifth toughest schedule and I think seven wins would 2092 01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:27,160 Speaker 5: be an accomplishment. How long are they going to give 2093 01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:31,439 Speaker 5: this kid because they just extended bowles to match Ben Johnson, 2094 01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:35,120 Speaker 5: I am not hopeful. Let me know. 2095 01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,040 Speaker 2: You know, I was really impressed with Caleb in the 2096 01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:42,760 Speaker 2: the first preseason game that I saw him play. We 2097 01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:46,680 Speaker 2: actually covered it with Fox. He looked like he was 2098 01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:50,439 Speaker 2: processing the offense. He was able to communicate the play 2099 01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,080 Speaker 2: in and out of huddle with the personnel group. Ben 2100 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 2: Johnson dialed up a great script for him to give 2101 01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:00,160 Speaker 2: him confident throws early. He checked off a lot lot 2102 01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,200 Speaker 2: of good situations that you want to see a young 2103 01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,559 Speaker 2: quarterback check off. In the preseason. He was backed up, 2104 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,839 Speaker 2: meaning he was inside the ten on one of his drives. 2105 01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:12,479 Speaker 2: That's like a huge situation where you have to get 2106 01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 2: a first down, so you give your punt team enough 2107 01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:18,879 Speaker 2: room to get actual punoff or we're having a potential disaster. 2108 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,400 Speaker 2: He was two. I think he had two third downs 2109 01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,680 Speaker 2: on that first drive. One was a touchdown. One was 2110 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,439 Speaker 2: that I think more third and five. I think third 2111 01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,800 Speaker 2: and eight or something. You want to see that he 2112 01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:34,400 Speaker 2: clicked off through a couple progressions on those, and then 2113 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,320 Speaker 2: I was really happy with two plays that he had. 2114 01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:39,160 Speaker 2: He had a screen that he threw into the dirt, 2115 01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:42,479 Speaker 2: and then he had one play action boot where the 2116 01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,760 Speaker 2: guy came and it was in his face and he 2117 01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,960 Speaker 2: double backed out. And then he threw a ball where 2118 01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,120 Speaker 2: his receiver could catch it or no one could catch it. Now, 2119 01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:54,840 Speaker 2: those aren't sexy plays, but that shows me growth because 2120 01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:56,639 Speaker 2: a lot of young quarterback I mean, you could watch 2121 01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:00,840 Speaker 2: preseason all week. We see all the young quarterbacks. What 2122 01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,439 Speaker 2: do they do. They throw an interception while they're rolling 2123 01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:04,920 Speaker 2: to the right, when they're trying to throw it out 2124 01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,160 Speaker 2: of bounds or there was like five of them last week. 2125 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,360 Speaker 2: So the fact that he knew that it was second 2126 01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,560 Speaker 2: down on one of those plays and he threw it 2127 01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,280 Speaker 2: into the dirt. It was a second and five. It 2128 01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,519 Speaker 2: didn't have a disaster turnover. You played the down and 2129 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:21,920 Speaker 2: went to third down. Like those are good things. That's 2130 01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,439 Speaker 2: what we didn't get to see. Look very confident throwing 2131 01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,000 Speaker 2: the football. He looked like he knew where he had 2132 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,040 Speaker 2: to go. So I thought he had a really good 2133 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:33,200 Speaker 2: first preseason game. I didn't get to watch as much 2134 01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,960 Speaker 2: as the second one. I'll get into that, but a 2135 01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:39,439 Speaker 2: successful year for him will be just like, let's not 2136 01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:43,479 Speaker 2: take off, Let's not get hit sixty eight times. You 2137 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,479 Speaker 2: know he got I think he got sacked sixty four 2138 01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,000 Speaker 2: sixty eight times last year. That's a lot. Only like 2139 01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:51,240 Speaker 2: three other quarterbacks had that. That's a lot of hits, 2140 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:55,640 Speaker 2: some self inflicted, some offensive line problems. They solidified the 2141 01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:59,680 Speaker 2: middle of sixty eight. Huh sixty eight yeh. They solidified 2142 01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:04,879 Speaker 2: the middle the offensive line with Dolmon, Jackson and Tooney, 2143 01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 2: so you know they're going to be fortified. Ben Johnson's 2144 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:12,479 Speaker 2: gonna call smart plays for him, like easy type plays 2145 01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,280 Speaker 2: that get him in rhythm. So I think, I mean, 2146 01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 2: he can't just like fully like think that this kid's 2147 01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,040 Speaker 2: gonna be a bus right away. He's had one year 2148 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,599 Speaker 2: he threw for thirty five hundred yards more than any 2149 01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 2: other quarterback has ever in that thing that in that 2150 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,760 Speaker 2: in Chicago, So he's had some decent He had a 2151 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,280 Speaker 2: decent rookie year. It's just we have such high expectations 2152 01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 2: now because you have guys like Jayden Daniels and c J. 2153 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,120 Speaker 2: Stroud that had monster rookie years. Like, that's not how 2154 01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,920 Speaker 2: it usually goes. And I know we have recency biased 2155 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,160 Speaker 2: with all that, but that's historically not how it goes. 2156 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,240 Speaker 2: So I'm excited for Caleb and his opportunity. Let's see 2157 01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:51,120 Speaker 2: him mature, you know, as a leader, body language and 2158 01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:54,200 Speaker 2: all that. Let's see him take less hits, and he 2159 01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:57,160 Speaker 2: very well could have a very next step type year. 2160 01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:59,479 Speaker 2: He is learning a new offense again, so you know, 2161 01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things you could say about him, 2162 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,400 Speaker 2: But it wasn't a great situation to be in last 2163 01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:08,000 Speaker 2: year with everything that was going on in that organization. 2164 01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:10,200 Speaker 6: I like where they're at now. Just having Joe Toney 2165 01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,160 Speaker 6: in any building automatically makes me feel better. 2166 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they got a really good defense. They got 2167 01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,880 Speaker 2: a lot of players on offense, the offensive lines there. Yeah, 2168 01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,840 Speaker 2: Caleb has to step it up. But like we got 2169 01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:23,519 Speaker 2: to remember he's only in the second year, and I 2170 01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,360 Speaker 2: know he was the first overall pick and everyone was 2171 01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:30,200 Speaker 2: comparing him to certain people out there, but like everyone, 2172 01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:35,040 Speaker 2: everyone develops at their own rate. Speaking of the you 2173 01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:37,439 Speaker 2: going to that Bears and Bills game, what's going on 2174 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,200 Speaker 2: with the math there? What you got? Like? I saw 2175 01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,799 Speaker 2: something like you said, like you didn't know what's seventy 2176 01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:43,400 Speaker 2: minus two? 2177 01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:43,680 Speaker 1: Was? 2178 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? They I tried to get Kurt with like a 2179 01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,120 Speaker 2: little jokester what Kurt just didn't pick up on it. 2180 01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:53,519 Speaker 2: I go, what's two minus seventy? He goes, well, what 2181 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,840 Speaker 2: do you mean sixty? What do you mean to He 2182 01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:57,519 Speaker 2: wanted to say. 2183 01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,160 Speaker 7: I only got the like sometimes they get alerts for you, 2184 01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,519 Speaker 7: and I got the like Julian Edelman doesn't know how 2185 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:05,040 Speaker 7: to do seventy you got? 2186 01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,200 Speaker 2: Okay, what's part of my jab? I was trying something. 2187 01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:14,040 Speaker 2: It didn't work, Okay, keep it. The god damn fireworks 2188 01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,720 Speaker 2: in the background they're announcing the teams. I'm over here 2189 01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,559 Speaker 2: trying to do quick cute joke with Kurt didn't work. 2190 01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:26,200 Speaker 2: It's called banter bro do bits didn't work. Next question, Kyler, Jules, Jack, 2191 01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:26,720 Speaker 2: what's up? 2192 01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:28,439 Speaker 4: I want to get your guys opinion on the new 2193 01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:29,360 Speaker 4: Notre game logo. 2194 01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,040 Speaker 3: Big fans, thanks. 2195 01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,280 Speaker 2: You see this? What do we do? This is what 2196 01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,919 Speaker 2: Jack's perennials put them up? Is this necessary? 2197 01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:40,800 Speaker 7: Is this do we get confirmation? Is that the full 2198 01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:42,519 Speaker 7: logo or is that like one of those like all 2199 01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:44,160 Speaker 7: football kind of logos. 2200 01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:46,240 Speaker 2: I think it's just gonna be all kind of football. Okay, 2201 01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:49,680 Speaker 2: it's all It's fine. I don't replace him. Are they 2202 01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:55,519 Speaker 2: going to kill the old one? They can't? No fighting irish? Yeah, yeah, 2203 01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,320 Speaker 2: what are we doing? They're not the football Irish? No? 2204 01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:02,639 Speaker 2: I mean, is what we do? But like, I don't 2205 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:08,200 Speaker 2: need that fucking leper. Kahn's got some good ass knee 2206 01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:13,559 Speaker 2: drive on that though. Put them put the good ball securities. 2207 01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:16,439 Speaker 2: He's got all three points covered. The tip, got it 2208 01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:18,599 Speaker 2: into his arm and then it's tucked into his armpit. 2209 01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:25,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I know extension. Oh yeah, I mean that's 2210 01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:28,400 Speaker 2: the knee drive, leverage everything, but anything, I mean, that's 2211 01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:31,120 Speaker 2: fucking how you do it. I just don't. They must 2212 01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:33,840 Speaker 2: have had the sports science people coming under that. John 2213 01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:38,280 Speaker 2: Brinkis RP consulted with the physiologists in town. I don't know. 2214 01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:39,880 Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't like it though. That's 2215 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:41,679 Speaker 2: where I'm standing. I mean, you come a long way 2216 01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:45,080 Speaker 2: from fighting like this to having perfect dorset flex, freaking 2217 01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:48,560 Speaker 2: ankle and knee drive. I will say they kept the 2218 01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:54,639 Speaker 2: face intact, faces faces good. I mean, look, is it cute? Yeah, 2219 01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:55,960 Speaker 2: but it ain't the real thing. 2220 01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,760 Speaker 6: The logo isn't being replaced at a school spokesperson in 2221 01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,680 Speaker 6: dead The new logo is a secondary option in the 2222 01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:04,800 Speaker 6: football program. They can use as a part of a 2223 01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,360 Speaker 6: rollout with other notre name sports which will do that 2224 01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:11,200 Speaker 6: will cool debut their own sports specific logos as a 2225 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,800 Speaker 6: prodest problem with sports media, like someone takes one thing 2226 01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:15,479 Speaker 6: out of a thing. 2227 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:17,720 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, this is just gonna be like on sweatshirts. 2228 01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:22,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, you see like a Louisville. Louisville does it with 2229 01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:26,360 Speaker 6: basketball notably story. You know it's it's a non story, 2230 01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,200 Speaker 6: but I still don't like it. Needs a shame on 2231 01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,040 Speaker 6: you sports media non story. And I'm what do we 2232 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,240 Speaker 6: let's take a little round of a too. If you 2233 01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:34,880 Speaker 6: look at it, Jeels, where do you stand on this one? 2234 01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:38,479 Speaker 2: Like it or don't like it? I mean, yeah, you 2235 01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:43,360 Speaker 2: like it for like a secondary little weight room weight 2236 01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,080 Speaker 2: room T shirt or something. Yeah, but you could do 2237 01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,840 Speaker 2: cooler things and the amen. Guy, I don't have the 2238 01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:53,839 Speaker 2: bandwidth to care about. I think it's cool, it's not appalling, 2239 01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:55,320 Speaker 2: but I just don't like the edit. Like, what's it 2240 01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,000 Speaker 2: going to be on a hat? Who cares? If it 2241 01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:58,960 Speaker 2: ain't broke, don't fix it. That's my motto. I like that, 2242 01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,960 Speaker 2: So that'll and just look it's the part. Now if 2243 01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:03,920 Speaker 2: they put it on the helmet, now we've got problems. 2244 01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:05,800 Speaker 2: Oh god, there's nothing on a helmet. I know what 2245 01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I mean there's nothing but go. That's right, baby, 2246 01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:14,080 Speaker 2: then Golden Omer's twenty four K. Hi. My name is Priscila. 2247 01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:15,200 Speaker 7: I'm from Brazil. 2248 01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,280 Speaker 3: I just want to know are you coming to the 2249 01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:21,920 Speaker 3: NFL game and from Paolo You'll have to come because 2250 01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:22,960 Speaker 3: we were waiting for you. 2251 01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:29,240 Speaker 2: Guys. Bye. We will not be going to the NFL 2252 01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:34,000 Speaker 2: game in South Polo had an opportunity, but not going. 2253 01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,160 Speaker 2: That's all. We'll leave it at that. Super excited though 2254 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,400 Speaker 2: for the NFL going to Brazil for the second year 2255 01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:43,599 Speaker 2: in a row. I think this anytime you're growing our sport. 2256 01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,120 Speaker 2: That's awesome, and I went just in. I went to 2257 01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,120 Speaker 2: Rio a couple of years ago to visit the last 2258 01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:53,160 Speaker 2: last maybe two last year USS George Washington USS George 2259 01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:57,560 Speaker 2: Washington when they were doing a nice peaceful you know, 2260 01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:02,040 Speaker 2: commemorating how our he's and I've been intact for over 2261 01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:05,520 Speaker 2: like I think two hundred something years, but our alliance 2262 01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:10,320 Speaker 2: and people out there like football. There are some people 2263 01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:11,880 Speaker 2: that knew I mean a lot of people knew me 2264 01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,840 Speaker 2: from the roast more, but there were a couple of 2265 01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:18,439 Speaker 2: Pats fans out there. You're a brazil guy. I love Brazil. Yeah, 2266 01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:23,160 Speaker 2: I love Brazil. I'm excited just about the matchup. They're 2267 01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:29,120 Speaker 2: nice people. Yes, they're colorful people. They're sweet people. Agreed. Friday, 2268 01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:34,960 Speaker 2: September fifth, that's so soon. Chief openers on Thursday and 2269 01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,759 Speaker 2: then they go to Brazil on Friday. Then the freaking 2270 01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:40,519 Speaker 2: then the Chiefs got to come back from Brazil and 2271 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:46,720 Speaker 2: play Philly week to on Fox. Yeah. Maybe good plugs. 2272 01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:48,439 Speaker 3: It's Randy from Oxnard. 2273 01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:54,840 Speaker 2: Uh, just just wondering how legit a the Chargers Randy 2274 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:59,519 Speaker 2: from Oxnard cos. Yeah, right, you hang out the Cowboys 2275 01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,320 Speaker 2: cable jar. I like him. I like him more that 2276 01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:06,360 Speaker 2: he's not. Well, no, just like he's got he likes 2277 01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,880 Speaker 2: the team from his area. He's not just jumping, you know. 2278 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:15,479 Speaker 2: But I think they're I think I'm excited for the Chargers. Okay, 2279 01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,920 Speaker 2: we all know the numbers of Jim Harball. In his 2280 01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:21,120 Speaker 2: second year with a new organization, they always have a 2281 01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:24,040 Speaker 2: big jump. He's got a really good quarterback in Justin 2282 01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:28,760 Speaker 2: Herbert Maconkey's a really good slot receiver, situational receiver that 2283 01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:30,879 Speaker 2: had a lot of production. You could see a chemistry 2284 01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:36,400 Speaker 2: that they have brewing up for this year. Keenan Allen 2285 01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:45,600 Speaker 2: coming back, the veteran thirteen years running back Hampton Hampton 2286 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:53,000 Speaker 2: to their practice and I was probably about fifty yards away. 2287 01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:56,600 Speaker 2: You could see Hampton was a running back. That dude 2288 01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:59,920 Speaker 2: got junk in the trunk. Nice. That dude is so thick, 2289 01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:04,040 Speaker 2: he got running back legs and but I mean he 2290 01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:06,400 Speaker 2: looks like what a running back needed to look like. 2291 01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:10,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it was it was impressive. I was impressed. 2292 01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:13,200 Speaker 2: They gotta garret him a lot this year. You think, 2293 01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,520 Speaker 2: I mean they got him, Nase Harris. They got two 2294 01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:19,480 Speaker 2: really capable running backs. You know last year they did 2295 01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,760 Speaker 2: they made Hay with Dobbs and the other who they 2296 01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,120 Speaker 2: were another guy that was from the Ravens. They had 2297 01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,440 Speaker 2: to Ravens and they made Hay and they're not like 2298 01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:30,320 Speaker 2: bad running backs, but they were beat up. They were 2299 01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,080 Speaker 2: a little older, you know what I mean, and they 2300 01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:35,720 Speaker 2: were still able, still able to have a run game 2301 01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:39,640 Speaker 2: that was effective. Uh if they didn't they get a 2302 01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:41,360 Speaker 2: tight end too. They had a tight end. They drafted 2303 01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:45,240 Speaker 2: a tight end who they got Disleek Conklin disc is 2304 01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,600 Speaker 2: gonna be a good option. The one thing I'm a 2305 01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:51,600 Speaker 2: little worried about. Not I'm not worried, but they just 2306 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:56,240 Speaker 2: need to have production out of another receiver outside the numbers. 2307 01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,520 Speaker 2: You need to have that production and then they're like 2308 01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:03,520 Speaker 2: a real good team. Losing Slater. That's terrible. I mean, 2309 01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:08,480 Speaker 2: that's that's not great. But the only positive out of 2310 01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:10,560 Speaker 2: it that I can think of, even though Ernie shot 2311 01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:12,360 Speaker 2: this down to me when I tried to explain it 2312 01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:16,400 Speaker 2: to him, is that at least it happened, you know, early, 2313 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,720 Speaker 2: so they can have time to prepare going into a 2314 01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,320 Speaker 2: season knowing that they're not going to have one of 2315 01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:26,440 Speaker 2: their better players. It changes everything on how you know 2316 01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:30,240 Speaker 2: they can maybe potentially get a trade. How they design 2317 01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,040 Speaker 2: their their roster for the year. Are they going to 2318 01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:36,200 Speaker 2: carry another swing tackle or you know, they need to 2319 01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,800 Speaker 2: find depth, so at least they have time to be 2320 01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:42,640 Speaker 2: able to fill to do that. You know, if this happens, 2321 01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:46,320 Speaker 2: you know, week one, week two, you know, and then 2322 01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:49,600 Speaker 2: you know the rosters are all cut. Maybe there is 2323 01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,880 Speaker 2: a tackle that you liked in the later rounds that 2324 01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,080 Speaker 2: gets cut from another team that you could bring into 2325 01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:57,000 Speaker 2: your team. You can't do, you know what I mean, 2326 01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,360 Speaker 2: he got already picked up. Now they could do that potentially, 2327 01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,640 Speaker 2: So you know, you gotta think of the positive. It's 2328 01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:04,920 Speaker 2: terrible you lose one of your best lineman, highest paid 2329 01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:07,560 Speaker 2: linemen of all time, sign him literally like two days 2330 01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:10,680 Speaker 2: before he tears his pateller tendant. Like the only positive 2331 01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:13,760 Speaker 2: is they'll have some time to maybe potentially, you know, 2332 01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,360 Speaker 2: fix that problem. Not fix it, but deal with that problem. 2333 01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:19,640 Speaker 2: You don't. You don't replace a guy like him. But 2334 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:21,240 Speaker 2: I'm excited for him. I mean, that's gonna be a 2335 01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:25,640 Speaker 2: tough division. AFC West is a coach really tough. I mean, 2336 01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:29,080 Speaker 2: no one's talking about the Chiefs and they've went to 2337 01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,080 Speaker 2: three last three Super Bowls. I don't know why you 2338 01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:34,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't talk about them. You know, the Broncos. Everyone's talking 2339 01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:36,840 Speaker 2: about them. Everyone's a little you know, hyped up on 2340 01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:41,600 Speaker 2: the Raiders. Brock Bowers haircut. I mean, he looks like 2341 01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:43,680 Speaker 2: he could be a man on a mission. He co 2342 01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,960 Speaker 2: have one hundred and forty catches this year. He looks 2343 01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:49,280 Speaker 2: mean and he used to look like a goddamn CPA. 2344 01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:53,840 Speaker 2: Did you talk to Lad mcconkier anybody I talked to Lad? 2345 01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:54,160 Speaker 5: He? 2346 01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:57,760 Speaker 2: You know, he he was a really just good kid, 2347 01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,560 Speaker 2: you know. He he's he's one of those little Southern 2348 01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:04,840 Speaker 2: guys that are like really polite. No, sir, yes, sir. 2349 01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:09,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, what the fuck fucking nerd? Yeah, I'm like, 2350 01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:13,360 Speaker 2: I'm not that old, but yeah, nobody. He he was 2351 01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:17,560 Speaker 2: just a genuinely nice kid, you can tell. And he's well, 2352 01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:20,360 Speaker 2: you're his Wayne Quebec. Maybe, I don't know, there's if 2353 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:22,960 Speaker 2: there's a few other guys. Jim Ratt, guy that plays 2354 01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:23,480 Speaker 2: it the right way. 2355 01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:24,240 Speaker 5: You know what. 2356 01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:27,920 Speaker 2: He's quick, he knows where he has to be. He's 2357 01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,960 Speaker 2: got really people under estimate like, oh, this guy's just underside, 2358 01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:34,160 Speaker 2: but he has elite quickness, you know, so he's going 2359 01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:36,080 Speaker 2: to continue to get better. He just got to stay healthy. 2360 01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,160 Speaker 2: All right, last week in Foxborg last year, I now 2361 01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:42,840 Speaker 2: that much. Last one here? All right, boys, someone's got 2362 01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:45,800 Speaker 2: to talk me off a cliff here, because I mean, 2363 01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:47,720 Speaker 2: I'm about to put my entire mortgage on us at 2364 01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,160 Speaker 2: least when in the AFC East, I mean, Henderson, are 2365 01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:53,920 Speaker 2: you kidding me? Drake May's looking great, He's got targets now, 2366 01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Jewels talked to me here? Am I crazy? 2367 01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:01,480 Speaker 2: We'll give the ship up about the bills? Who gives 2368 01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:04,320 Speaker 2: a shit about the bills when you have seventeen Josh 2369 01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:07,120 Speaker 2: Allen who just got married to like his little actor wife. 2370 01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,320 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's on cloud nine right now? Have 2371 01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:15,080 Speaker 2: you distraction? Hard Knocks star Hard Knocks? Honestly, the Hard 2372 01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:19,000 Speaker 2: Knocks make me full bills, full bills that you're kind 2373 01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:20,400 Speaker 2: of new. I feel like you're kind of new to 2374 01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:22,840 Speaker 2: actually watching Hard Knocks kind of but not really. That's 2375 01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:25,360 Speaker 2: the whole journey you're living living. Yeah, this is this 2376 01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:28,800 Speaker 2: is the first time it's an actually good team other 2377 01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:30,800 Speaker 2: than like the first one when it was Baltimore was 2378 01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,600 Speaker 2: Goose Cowboys, Cowboys. They weren't that good. Things were okay, 2379 01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:38,840 Speaker 2: I think when they did it, dol dola, baby, this 2380 01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:40,880 Speaker 2: is the first time you're getting the sneak peak of 2381 01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:45,560 Speaker 2: a real team. Question. Do I think the New England 2382 01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:49,280 Speaker 2: Patriots are going to be competitive? Yes? To go say 2383 01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:51,000 Speaker 2: that they're going to go from four wins to win 2384 01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:52,960 Speaker 2: in the AFC East When you got a quarterback in 2385 01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:56,200 Speaker 2: the same division named Josh Allen, that's kind of crazy. 2386 01:59:56,800 --> 02:00:01,280 Speaker 2: That's kind of crazy. I could see them making the 2387 02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:04,160 Speaker 2: playoffs though I like it. I can see him making 2388 02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:07,800 Speaker 2: the plays. I'm not gonna put a win count on there. 2389 02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:15,000 Speaker 2: I think ultimately, if Drake May is processing Josh McDaniel's 2390 02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:19,320 Speaker 2: offense at a at a good like, at a professional rate, 2391 02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:21,720 Speaker 2: that that's a win of the season. Because this is 2392 02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:25,400 Speaker 2: only the first year of this coaching staff scheme. Uh, 2393 02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,920 Speaker 2: you know their concept like this is not this isn't. 2394 02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:32,160 Speaker 2: People can't just say, oh, they have Josh McDaniels and 2395 02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:34,400 Speaker 2: compare them to Tom Brady, who's in that system for 2396 02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:39,000 Speaker 2: seventeen twenty years. I mean that a system evolved around 2397 02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Tom with his strengths. We don't even know all the 2398 02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,880 Speaker 2: strengths of Drake May yet. He doesn't have enough sample size. 2399 02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,600 Speaker 2: He saw some great things, and I'm excited. But we 2400 02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:51,120 Speaker 2: got to see him, you know, be able to hit 2401 02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:57,000 Speaker 2: the layups and stuff routinely consistently every time, you know, 2402 02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,680 Speaker 2: before we could start saying he's gonna go out and 2403 02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:02,800 Speaker 2: win the AFC East. I'm super excited, just like everyone 2404 02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:04,800 Speaker 2: in this area. And I'm with you. 2405 02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:09,520 Speaker 7: When this episode is coming out, which is this this Tuesday, 2406 02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:14,280 Speaker 7: we'll literally be talking with Will Campbell. Like right now, well, listener, 2407 02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:16,160 Speaker 7: you're listening to this episode, we're talking to Will Campbell. 2408 02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:18,200 Speaker 2: We'll have no more, we'll know a little bit more. 2409 02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,560 Speaker 2: That's right. Excited for Will Campbell too, regardless before I 2410 02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:25,240 Speaker 2: even met him, or I have really met him, don't 2411 02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:28,000 Speaker 2: you know he's coming on the show next next week. 2412 02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:30,360 Speaker 2: I can already tell I like him though. He just 2413 02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:34,000 Speaker 2: says the right things, you know what I mean. He 2414 02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:37,440 Speaker 2: died for that Drake may Baby, he died for that quarterback. Hey, 2415 02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:40,280 Speaker 2: if you're going to be a jokester and a fun guy, 2416 02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,280 Speaker 2: be like that. Yeah, yeah, that's how you should be. 2417 02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:46,760 Speaker 2: Positively say the right things in a funny one to 2418 02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,360 Speaker 2: like what you have to do. He's trying to be 2419 02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:52,560 Speaker 2: a joke well, regardless, he's letting them fly. If you're 2420 02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:55,400 Speaker 2: going to be a guy that makes you the sound bites, 2421 02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:58,120 Speaker 2: make him those kinds. Man, I'm gonna draft tenners in 2422 02:01:58,120 --> 02:01:59,960 Speaker 2: the first round. I think he's gonna be really good foot. 2423 02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:03,160 Speaker 2: But look at guys, this is football, okay, and I'm 2424 02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:06,120 Speaker 2: not trying to put anything out there, but you can 2425 02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:09,920 Speaker 2: never just count on one guy because we've done that 2426 02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:13,080 Speaker 2: plenty of times. That guy gets you know, let's knock 2427 02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:16,880 Speaker 2: on wood, but you know this is football. Twenty two 2428 02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:19,080 Speaker 2: guys out there. You don't talk crazy like that, or 2429 02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:22,120 Speaker 2: the football guys toll slap you down. Amen. Okay, let's 2430 02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:24,919 Speaker 2: go with the course. Let's just go with the process. 2431 02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Let's try to build our fundamentals as a team. Let's 2432 02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:31,440 Speaker 2: build our fundamentals of a team and try to improve 2433 02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:34,800 Speaker 2: each week. And let's see where that gets us. I'm 2434 02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:35,680 Speaker 2: sure it'll get you good. 2435 02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:38,520 Speaker 6: When minute you're scoring two teddies, the next Lauren Landry's 2436 02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:42,200 Speaker 6: laying out football gods, greatballs, I'll slap your ass down. 2437 02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:44,920 Speaker 2: And that was a chill Zone brought to you by 2438 02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:47,800 Speaker 2: our favorite beer, Corps Light Get cors Light delivered straight 2439 02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:49,800 Speaker 2: to your door of vis it Corpslight dot com slash 2440 02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:54,520 Speaker 2: gwn and celebrate responsibly. What a game and thanks again 2441 02:02:54,880 --> 02:03:01,400 Speaker 2: to big V Epic stories Man he's in inspiration. Thanks 2442 02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:05,240 Speaker 2: again to Duncan and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or 2443 02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:07,960 Speaker 2: wherever you listen to your podcast. 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