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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage studio. It's Tuesday here
Speaker 1: at the Star, getting ready to go on the road
Speaker 1: to Oakland Raider Territory. But yeah, black hole. Yeah, before
Speaker 1: we do that, Big Brian brought us. It's your birthday
Speaker 1: today and we celebrated. Thank you, Thank you, appreciate that
Speaker 1: for you today, Thank you me birthday, Bud, appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I have to step aside. Now you get
Speaker 1: to Yeah, I get to. Yeah, you get to share
Speaker 1: the stage. We now, Mick, we'll celebrate you in another
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty four days. There you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: countdowns on Mick. Yeah, the countdown is on now. Brian,
Speaker 1: you know it's Raiders week. We're getting ready to readers experience.
Speaker 1: He almost almost went to work there. Yeah, when Bill
Speaker 1: Parcel has had enough of me, I got to one
Speaker 1: of the greatest interviews I ever had. I mean I
Speaker 1: was I usually not nervous talking to people, but when
Speaker 1: I got to talk to al Davis. I sat there
Speaker 1: for like four hours and just talked and talked and
Speaker 1: talked and talked, kind of like Jerry where there's kind
Speaker 1: of an aura there. It's it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where he walks in the room. There's only a couple
Speaker 1: of people. Jerry's like that. We Reggie White was another
Speaker 1: one for me where he walked in the room and
Speaker 1: it kind of you kind of like caught your breath
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But sitting to talk with al Davis, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was interesting to say the least. Four
Speaker 1: hours four hours, no way, Yeah, all about football or
Speaker 1: all about football. He didn't hire you, he did, Oh
Speaker 1: he did, he did, he could he but he asked me.
Speaker 1: He asked me. He interviewed me in May, and he
Speaker 1: didn't bring me on until August and then. But the
Speaker 1: way he hired me was strange. This is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite broadest stories. Yeah, I know, that's it's a
Speaker 1: good one to start with it. This is really shouldn't
Speaker 1: stay year at the at the Alameda facility, which is
Speaker 1: right by the airport. Uh. They they have a hotel
Speaker 1: that's right next door to their complex. Literally, you could
Speaker 1: hit like a sandwich it's just that close, just a
Speaker 1: little sandwich from one to the other, sort like their
Speaker 1: farmer training camp facility knocksnar absolutely same, very same. And
Speaker 1: so I was sitting there in uh you know, I
Speaker 1: was there a week. I was actually there two weeks,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, mister Davis never told me how
Speaker 1: much he was going to pay me or any of
Speaker 1: these things he was now. I mean, he just you know,
Speaker 1: he says, well, you know, come on board. Well we'll say.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, I'm gonna go. At the time, I'm married,
Speaker 1: Benny was just born basically, and so I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: well here I'm getting ready to move my family to California.
Speaker 1: So like a week goes by and Kathy, I actually
Speaker 1: asked me. She goes, h, hey, has he ever talked
Speaker 1: to you about moving or anything like that as you
Speaker 1: talked to you about finance. And I'm saying, no, I haven't.
Speaker 1: I've just I've just been working. I've been trying to
Speaker 1: get ready for the season, and she goes, Okay. So
Speaker 1: another week goes and he still hasn't said anything to me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so Kathy is now out of her mind.
Speaker 1: She's like, Okay, figure this out. Now. So sure enough,
Speaker 1: I go into mister Davis's office and I talked to
Speaker 1: him and he goes, well, Brian, what I like for
Speaker 1: you to do is I like for you to live
Speaker 1: in the hotel next door, and I'll pay you two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month. And I looked atim. I said,
Speaker 1: mister Davis, I got a wife and a kid. I
Speaker 1: can't you know, I'm not like an intern guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm right college. I'm not out of college. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's one of those things where if
Speaker 1: I didn't have a wife and kid, I might have
Speaker 1: taken the job and said, okay, I'm back in. I'll
Speaker 1: just do what I have to do. But he goes,
Speaker 1: I just want to kind of try you out. But
Speaker 1: he interviewed me for four hours, brought me in later
Speaker 1: in the summer, and then and then he wanted to
Speaker 1: try me out and I and I looked him. I said,
Speaker 1: mister Davis, I really can't do this. Yeah. He goes, Okay,
Speaker 1: he goes, that's good. He goes, that's fine. You know,
Speaker 1: well you can pack up and go now. And so
Speaker 1: I said, okay. So I packed up my stuff and
Speaker 1: went by Michael Lombardi's office. Who was Mike was working
Speaker 1: director player personnel. I said, Mike, the old man just
Speaker 1: got rid of me. He said, why see you later? Yeah, exactly, goes.
Speaker 1: I go. He goes, what do you mean he got
Speaker 1: rid of He goes, he wouldn't tell me. Ay, he
Speaker 1: didn't want it. He wanted me to live in the
Speaker 1: hotel and be wanted to pay me two grand am months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes, Really has you already started working there? I've
Speaker 1: been working there for two weeks. I'd been working for
Speaker 1: two weeks. And one of the things that's interesting about
Speaker 1: working with the Raiders is that mister Davis likes to call.
Speaker 1: He would call all the personnel directors. We all had offices.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have my own office, which was really
Speaker 1: cool looking over the practice field actually, and so like
Speaker 1: all the personnel guys offices were lined up next to
Speaker 1: each other. So mister Davis would call and he wanted
Speaker 1: to know what was going on, what was your opinion
Speaker 1: and all. So we would have meetings. We would have
Speaker 1: meetings there at the facility. Before he would call to say, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: we don't need to tell the old man. And this
Speaker 1: we would hide things from him. I mean, we would say, okay,
Speaker 1: we need to kind of think about this, and no, don't, don't,
Speaker 1: don't talk because he'd always all he was looking for was, oh, Brian,
Speaker 1: what you think about the tight end situation with the team?
Speaker 1: You know? And I well, mister Davis, you know how
Speaker 1: to go in and so we would we were all
Speaker 1: trained to say, like, these are the guys we wanted
Speaker 1: to play, not who he wanted to play, so everybody,
Speaker 1: but all he was looking for was one guy. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: every morning, well excuse me, every afternoon the phone would
Speaker 1: ring in one office, and then it would ring in
Speaker 1: the next office, and then it would ring in the
Speaker 1: next office, and then it would ring in the next night.
Speaker 1: You could hear it going down the hall because he
Speaker 1: was just calling and in. The unusual thing about Al
Speaker 1: Davis is he worked at night. Yeah, he was like
Speaker 1: he could call you like at three in the morning.
Speaker 1: We would be work. We'd get there at seven and
Speaker 1: you know, seven eight o'clock, we're about ready to go home,
Speaker 1: and he was just coming in, so you didn't know
Speaker 1: when you were gonna get that three am. I'm watching tape.
Speaker 1: What's what's the deal Brian with it, you know, so
Speaker 1: really a fascinating man, he mean, a very fascinating man.
Speaker 1: And I you know what, but it was it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: two weeks with the Oakland Raiders. If you looked at him,
Speaker 1: he could have played in the Vampire Chronicles. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: you know was And I could you know what? And
Speaker 1: I can confirm what Brian saying because an owners meeting
Speaker 1: my good friend Joe Avazano, assistant coach there for two years,
Speaker 1: three years maybe and north he told me that when
Speaker 1: when when when al Davis came walking down the hallway,
Speaker 1: everybody would scatter, scatter, and they were trying to avoid
Speaker 1: him because he was looking to see what you knew
Speaker 1: and if what you knew was what he wanted to know, right,
Speaker 1: and he would test you, he would test you and
Speaker 1: sure like he'd already made his mind up on something.
Speaker 1: And then he was trying to see if you agreed
Speaker 1: with you without letting him know. And and Joe said, coach,
Speaker 1: the assistant coaches just scattered. Yeah, when he came, he was,
Speaker 1: he was, he was out of there, you're out of there.
Speaker 1: He didn't want and you didn't want to get caught.
Speaker 1: You were fearful for your job. What was really unusual?
Speaker 1: Can I have real quick tap if I told a story,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean, but this is about his office
Speaker 1: and anwo me at the time was beautiful. I mean huge,
Speaker 1: big oak table, I mean pictures and Super Bowl trophies
Speaker 1: and I mean just glory. But where he where he
Speaker 1: did all his business from, was just a single chair
Speaker 1: and a TV tray like your mom and dad had
Speaker 1: in the you know, maybe you're you know, you're moved
Speaker 1: into your living room. Yeah, like you know, yeah, like
Speaker 1: the fifty Yeah, yeah, we have TV tray. You know,
Speaker 1: we sit down and you put in your lap and
Speaker 1: you kind of watch yourself. Yeah, wooden. He had a
Speaker 1: wooden TV tray and he had his phone on that
Speaker 1: tray and he sat there with a towel in his lap,
Speaker 1: a folded white towel, And that's kind of what he did.
Speaker 1: I mean I sat there and I'm like, I'm talking
Speaker 1: to him, and I mean four hours I sat there
Speaker 1: and talked. It was it was. It was fascinating interview.
Speaker 1: I mean, he grilled me, but he wanted to know
Speaker 1: about the cowboys. That was his thing. He wanted to
Speaker 1: know about. Okay, well, why did why did Jerry do
Speaker 1: this and why does Jerry do that? You know, I
Speaker 1: mean that's how he you know, he talked and I
Speaker 1: just spilled. I mean, I'm I'm talking to a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame owner everything. I'm just like bah, I'm just bah,
Speaker 1: you know, doing that bit and you know everything I
Speaker 1: knew and it was it was, it was, but it
Speaker 1: was fascinating football. I wish football people just fans. I
Speaker 1: wish fans could get to talk to guys like Al
Speaker 1: Davis because he loved the game. He really really did
Speaker 1: love the game. Jerry had a good one this morning.
Speaker 1: That was his friend Raiders. Did you hear that? Did
Speaker 1: you practice? Yes? I heard that training camp practice and
Speaker 1: I remember it happened. But the Raiders a game to
Speaker 1: Austin god Blood Bass and it would I mean it
Speaker 1: was like a game. It was competitive. I mean it
Speaker 1: was really hard and they're going at it and uh,
Speaker 1: Jerry remembers him. The competition was, I mean fierce. It
Speaker 1: was bad. And Al walks onto the field. He walked
Speaker 1: onto the field and said, okay, boys, this this this
Speaker 1: little session's over. Yeah. They were going it was either
Speaker 1: like or you know, up the middle run drill. He
Speaker 1: just stopped the drill just stopped it. He said. Jerry
Speaker 1: went up to him and said something like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? Yeah, and he goes, I'm not losing the
Speaker 1: season in training camp practice. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: anybody hurt. And we're not doing this any longer. Jerry said.
Speaker 1: He told him. He goes, but boy, you guys are competitive.
Speaker 1: I really need to get my team to compete like that.
Speaker 1: And Jerry said, he told him, well, that's why you
Speaker 1: don't stop that drill. Yeah, and he walked out. He's
Speaker 1: got a white suit warm up suit. It's ninety five
Speaker 1: degrees humidity, and he's got this white warm up suit
Speaker 1: that's kind of silky on the outside and it's thick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's trademark. Look. Yeah, but that's what he
Speaker 1: interviewed me in. It wasn't It wasn't. It was Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: Ninety five degrees all white suit man. Yeah, weather this
Speaker 1: week shouldn't be too bad. I know, into a lot
Speaker 1: of weather talk last week and it ended up not
Speaker 1: being that cold out there in New York now and
Speaker 1: you know, another good break. You're going to get to
Speaker 1: the fact if you would have played in Oakland in
Speaker 1: week two, like you did in Denver, you'd had to
Speaker 1: deal with a baseball field. Yeah, and so now you
Speaker 1: don't have to deal with the baseball field. You deal
Speaker 1: with the full grass field. And that's that that that's
Speaker 1: a help because that that dirt infield, it takes up
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the field and you're having to play
Speaker 1: out the middle of that is never good. Kicking yeah,
Speaker 1: never good. I mean even you know, Jenikowski for years
Speaker 1: has managed that for them. You know, I know he's
Speaker 1: not kicking now, but but yeah, I mean kicking field
Speaker 1: goals off that dirt is not good. And your players
Speaker 1: you fall on that. I mean, guys get injured out there.
Speaker 1: I mean that's where Jason Witten took the hit Rolando
Speaker 1: McLean in that preseason game, right there in the middle
Speaker 1: of the dirt. You know, that's that's not a good situation.
Speaker 1: Watch out for the Rats when you come down walking
Speaker 1: from the locker run all right, I'm not looking forward
Speaker 1: to this. Hey, you need to go ticket your picture.
Speaker 1: You and Mickey go by the black hole just a smile.
Speaker 1: We'll just have thumbs up. Just the guy was picture,
Speaker 1: I mean cowboykier Doom style. No cowboy giar. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: you know you brought up field goal kicking, Mickey, and
Speaker 1: you know we're talking about Jerry this morning, and he
Speaker 1: said that Dan was dealing with a swore hamstring. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. You answer your own question there.
Speaker 1: You don't want to answer that one, Mickey, That's what
Speaker 1: he was saying. He said that Dan Bailey was trying
Speaker 1: to account for a sensitive hamstring on Sunday against the Giants.
Speaker 1: But it's not going to be an issue moving forward. Okay,
Speaker 1: there we go, There we go. I mean, I've never
Speaker 1: seen you at a loss for words. I'm not at
Speaker 1: a loss for words. Just you're just saying a misfield goals,
Speaker 1: aren't you. I'm saying he kicked the ball fifty three yards, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hit the upright, right, the upright from fifty three yards
Speaker 1: with winds rolling. Yeah. And he kicked another one fifty
Speaker 1: yards right down the middle, and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden the ball just faded to the right and took
Speaker 1: it to the right. Now the missed extra point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the one that puzzles everybody. That's the alignment one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the alignment one. Will you kind of go okay,
Speaker 1: was he overcompensating? You know, it's hard. Dan Bailey is
Speaker 1: a hard guy to say. You know, I mean, if
Speaker 1: if you if you're if you're critical of Dan Bailey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the barrel of a lot of people's. Well,
Speaker 1: there's arguably no more consistent player on this roster for
Speaker 1: what he's asked to do. There's in terms of preparation,
Speaker 1: He's got everybody's respect. I don't think they're concerned about him.
Speaker 1: I think I think largely it was just a tough
Speaker 1: day at the end. Could he be the best at
Speaker 1: his job in terms of what he's asked to do?
Speaker 1: He's right there. But you talk with the Sean Lee's
Speaker 1: of the world and the Tyron Smith's of the world,
Speaker 1: you know, is he the best at his job on
Speaker 1: this team? Just about? I mean, and I mean it's
Speaker 1: hard to be critical of him. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1: But man, if if he's having hamstring problems, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see, I don't know, there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: hamstring issues. Nicky's just just shaking his head field goals
Speaker 1: though this week hopefully won't be an issue. I hope
Speaker 1: that this team is ready to go. But yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are ready to talk about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: playoff chances, are you guys, you and Mick playoff? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go break it down. Break it down. So it's
Speaker 1: at a four percent chance right now as it is mathematically.
Speaker 1: Of course, who figures out five thirty eight that are
Speaker 1: at five thirty eight? I don't know the brand. They're
Speaker 1: part of ESPN. ESPN's kind of numbers people, they're the political, economics,
Speaker 1: science sports. The hardest one of all that of I
Speaker 1: believe you're gonna go for the Cowboys to make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: obviously with a wild card spot, because the Eagles have
Speaker 1: already clinched the NFC East. The Cowboys would need to
Speaker 1: one win out right two, have green Bay lose at
Speaker 1: least one possible, have Detroit lose at least one very possible.
Speaker 1: Have Atlanta los two of its last three. That is
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult. Now, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of big NFC games that will help this. Atlanta closes
Speaker 1: the season at Tampa at New Orleans in home verse Carolina. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Carolina obviously hosts Green Bay in Seattle, but hosts the
Speaker 1: Rams next week, and then the Packers still play Minnesota
Speaker 1: and Detroit. Not impossible. I mean you break that down,
Speaker 1: and those three games Atlanta's got, there's a couple tough
Speaker 1: ones on paper on that schedule, But the Cowboys just
Speaker 1: have to take care of business and go ahead. See
Speaker 1: what they're not factoring into this equation that she just
Speaker 1: read is a three way tie, because then head to
Speaker 1: head doesn't matter unless all three teams played each other.
Speaker 1: Then it's a conference senate goes to your conference record
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys conference record to get to ten and six,
Speaker 1: other teams end up at ten and six, they're going
Speaker 1: to be better than them, or at least tied, and
Speaker 1: then it's going to go to common opponents. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then then that's when they can't figure that out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's why that four percent is Okay, that's fine,
Speaker 1: But if it's a three way tie, everything changes unless
Speaker 1: everybody's played everybody, right, and then the Cowboys probably are
Speaker 1: in trouble because if they've all played each other, that
Speaker 1: could be Yeah, they there's some yeah, there's some head
Speaker 1: to head tied with. Yeah. So if they're tied with
Speaker 1: say they're tied at ten and six with Green Bay
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and if green Bay and Atlanta have played. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys are out. But just I think it
Speaker 1: played week two. They did play in week two, I
Speaker 1: think one. Yeah, No, I thought at Atlanta, Atlanta would
Speaker 1: hold the tide. Atlanta would be two and oh Atlanta
Speaker 1: holds tiebreakers on Dallas and green Bay. Yeah, just looking
Speaker 1: at that, that's a lot of games. Can have games
Speaker 1: that have to be lost yet Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: games have to be lost yet, but you have to
Speaker 1: win all your game that's first and format. The number
Speaker 1: one is winning out. What's the percentage of that happening?
Speaker 1: I don't know. They didn't figure that out. No, you
Speaker 1: just you just didn't the equation. What scenario do you
Speaker 1: not think can happen? What? What not scenario? What of
Speaker 1: the of the Detroit green Bay in Atlanta? Probably the
Speaker 1: Atlanta losing two of their last three. Okay, they do
Speaker 1: play the Saints. Yeah, you're saying that it was a
Speaker 1: close game obviously last Thursday night. Yeah, and Carolina that
Speaker 1: think Carolina skill. Yeah, I mean that's that's that's your
Speaker 1: hope right there. Well, and I mean be honest, let's
Speaker 1: winning out is not an easy thing either, and that
Speaker 1: would account for a five game win streak if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were to win their final three, and that's that's
Speaker 1: tough to do, no matter how well you're playing. Now,
Speaker 1: you get Zeke back after this game, and who knows
Speaker 1: what Philly's gonna look like in week seventeen. I mean,
Speaker 1: Great Bay wins is out and uh, I'll take my
Speaker 1: chances that wins playing. To be honest with you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying that all of a sudden. I mean,
Speaker 1: on paper, you think your chances wouldn't that guys an
Speaker 1: MVP candidate, So I don't. I think he's a difference
Speaker 1: in what you guys are doing the other today. But
Speaker 1: that's first and foremost. You gotta win these last three games.
Speaker 1: Green Bay's gotta play at Carolina, Yeah, Minnesota at Detroit.
Speaker 1: But they get Rogers back for the Carolina. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but he's I don't think he's getting cleared this week.
Speaker 1: It sure it didn't sound like it. Well, they can't
Speaker 1: lose that game. I haven't said no to that, no,
Speaker 1: but they said the doctors were still checking him. Doctor
Speaker 1: he's inteligible to come off by hour, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean doctor mackenzie won't let him play if he didn't
Speaker 1: feel like his to protect himself his shoulders. Good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Seattle has got to play the Rams and the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And if the Cowboys get the ten and six, that
Speaker 1: means they've got to lose one more. So that's six
Speaker 1: losses for them. You mentioned Atlanta, and Carolina's got two
Speaker 1: more tough games to play, Green Bay and at Atlanta,
Speaker 1: so you know you probably could figure Caroline's gonna make it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that Carolina would be the fifth season.
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be If the Cowboys went out,
Speaker 1: there will be a three way tie for that last
Speaker 1: wildcard spot. Yeah. And then and then it just depends
Speaker 1: who you're tied with. And then you're gonna get worked
Speaker 1: on the on the conference record, and then the head
Speaker 1: to head on the more so the head to head
Speaker 1: if it's the teams that you've played. If you haven't played,
Speaker 1: then the next the next deal is best one lost
Speaker 1: percentage in games played within the conference, and then after
Speaker 1: that it goes to common games. And then the last
Speaker 1: thing the Cowboys need to do is get it to
Speaker 1: the fifth deal and its strength of victory, and their
Speaker 1: strength of victory is not very good as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, of the ten teams that are seven six
Speaker 1: are better. The Cowboys strength of victory is the worst.
Speaker 1: They've only beaten teams that have won thirty games. Green
Speaker 1: Bays won beaten teams that won thirty two, and Detroit
Speaker 1: thirty three. After that, Seattle's forty one, in Atlanta's fifty
Speaker 1: one and Carolina's fifty nine. Yeah, I need to go
Speaker 1: back and look at how many times since two thousand
Speaker 1: and two when they've realigned all the divisions, you've won
Speaker 1: ten games. Are just gonna say that and not gotten
Speaker 1: in because usually you just kind of one time New
Speaker 1: England didn't get in winning eleven and five with Castle,
Speaker 1: right yea in that Castle, yeah, insects and they didn't
Speaker 1: get in. Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's kind
Speaker 1: of the thing in everybody's heads. You win ten games,
Speaker 1: it should get you. It's always been. It's always been
Speaker 1: that magical number. But in this case, it might not
Speaker 1: be as pretty good year for the NFC, you know,
Speaker 1: if that's gonna if you got to have eleven wins
Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs, if this is the time
Speaker 1: you want to get into tournament, in my opinion, because
Speaker 1: it is now the unknown with Carson Wentz, being out
Speaker 1: for Philly. This thing's wide open. You're probably you're playing it.
Speaker 1: You know you're playing against probably having to play against
Speaker 1: the team you'd probably fear a little bit is the
Speaker 1: Saints because of what with Breeze at quarterback and their
Speaker 1: ability to run the football, They're playing with better defense.
Speaker 1: But who do you really fear Minnesota's defense? Do you
Speaker 1: fear their quarterback? I mean, I don't fear their quarterback,
Speaker 1: fear their defense. Fair their defense more than anybody else's.
Speaker 1: Their defense has been more consistent than anybody else's. That
Speaker 1: was a close game for the Cowboys, and you have
Speaker 1: to go play indoors. That's all I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: Having to go play at New Orleans or at Minnesota,
Speaker 1: that is no easy task. I mean, that's that's another
Speaker 1: layer to have that matchup, you know, having to go
Speaker 1: on the wall. I think if you were to win,
Speaker 1: if somehow you get in, do you think do you
Speaker 1: think Philadelphia is still going to be the one seed?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean there's three games left, and
Speaker 1: whether they have eleven wins right now, ask me that
Speaker 1: after Sunday, after I see what folds, does you don't? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got faith in folds they go to Giants this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yes see, but that's what I'm saying though. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of thinking because if if the cases that means Philadelphia
Speaker 1: was the one seed and you were the sixth seed
Speaker 1: and you won, you would have to go back to
Speaker 1: Philadelphia at some point. Yeah, yeah, if you were to win,
Speaker 1: you if you were to win the first round game,
Speaker 1: like like you know, if you if you were to
Speaker 1: go beat you know, likely you would have to play.
Speaker 1: I believe the Rams would be in that mix. The
Speaker 1: Rams or Seattle would be in that mix, right right,
Speaker 1: or somebody in the NFC South, which would be Carolina
Speaker 1: or New Orleans. Right now, the four and five seeds
Speaker 1: are the Rams and Atlanta I think now it's New
Speaker 1: Orleans is the fourth. So Carolina is the four seat
Speaker 1: because the Saints are winning, the Saints are winning the South.
Speaker 1: But then they're the fifth seat, well, the four division winner,
Speaker 1: four division winners, so they would be the first wildcard. Carolina, right,
Speaker 1: Carolina the first card right right, rh right, So right
Speaker 1: now it's Philadelphia, Minnesota, the Rams, New Orleans, Carolina, Atlanta, Seattle, Detroit,
Speaker 1: Green Bay Cowboys right the tenth. Yeah, on this little
Speaker 1: deal right, I wouldn't discount Philly. I still don't discount Philly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can run, especially if they do wind up with
Speaker 1: home field. They they've got a great defense. I think
Speaker 1: their hosts, they've got a great defense. They've got a
Speaker 1: running game they can rely on with their backup. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they should be the favorite, but I wouldn't
Speaker 1: that quarterback. It's been the total difference for them all year.
Speaker 1: What what would you rather do? Go to Minnesota and
Speaker 1: play in the Dome or go to Philadelphia and play
Speaker 1: the Eagles without once. I'll take my chances. This is
Speaker 1: gonna sound this is gonna sound sick. I'll take I'll
Speaker 1: take my chances playing against that Foles. Okay, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Taylor's approach. Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan approach from
Speaker 1: last year show me something. Yeah, I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I was just impressed with how he went out and
Speaker 1: they rallied and made plays defensively and did what they
Speaker 1: had to do to get out of there with the win.
Speaker 1: That was a that was an impressive way to rally
Speaker 1: against a good team on the road to win the division.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just wouldn't rule him out. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think people figure out Nick Foles. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, no doubt it's something great. There's a reason
Speaker 1: why Nick Foles is not starting somewhere in the National
Speaker 1: Football League right now. Shady McCoy was on you know,
Speaker 1: social media or something. I'm saying, Hey, my guys, Foles
Speaker 1: is gonna lead him. He thinks that he just fine, Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: we saw kase Keenom. I would not have said the
Speaker 1: same thing about Kase Keenom last year, right, but not
Speaker 1: have said he could even get a team to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I just I've never won a game in Minnesota. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh and twelve they won last year. Oh that's true,
Speaker 1: but it was not the Metrodome. I never won a
Speaker 1: game at the Metrodome. But luckily that's torn down now. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gone. That was so tough. That was a tough
Speaker 1: victoryized that was it, and that and that was with
Speaker 1: that was with Sam Bradford messing it up. Give me
Speaker 1: an outdoor team. Does this make the week seventeen games
Speaker 1: suddenly matter? Now? It might for their home field advantage.
Speaker 1: That's why I think they're gonna have to play. I
Speaker 1: think there if if Minnesota would have won against Carolina
Speaker 1: last week, that that means Philadelphia would have to keep playing. Well,
Speaker 1: if they can go to New York, you think they
Speaker 1: would go to New York and win that game. Then
Speaker 1: at minimum they're gonna have twelve wins going into the
Speaker 1: finale against Dallas. So does that guarantee home field at
Speaker 1: that point? Probably not so. I mean they're only one
Speaker 1: game ahead of Minnesota, right, Yeah about New Orleans? What's
Speaker 1: New Orleans? New Orleans got would have has? Minnesota, has Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: Green Bay in Chicago. They're gonna win two more, Yeah,
Speaker 1: at least nine and four? Yeah, who is New Orleans?
Speaker 1: Nine and four? Yeah, they've got the Jets, Atlanta and
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. They should win two more. Yeah, that's eleven.
Speaker 1: You would think that's eleven, right, that's eleven. So Philadelphia
Speaker 1: is gonna have to win twelve games. They've got to
Speaker 1: win twelve. Yeah, they gotta win one, but they've got
Speaker 1: to beat the Giants. That's kind of where. And then
Speaker 1: they got Oakland at home and the Cowboys at home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they pretty much this is their last road game.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that I have a feeling that
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is gonna go into the playoffs and they're gonna
Speaker 1: realize that. You know, I don't know what we saw
Speaker 1: from them when they came in here. That's a pretty
Speaker 1: complete football team, I know, how great. Yeah, but how
Speaker 1: many times on third down did wins make a play
Speaker 1: that you were like going, oh my god, how do
Speaker 1: you avoid that sack? He's been great, he's he really
Speaker 1: has been the MVP player. I was one of the
Speaker 1: games without Shaun Lee. Yeah. Yeah, it helped that they
Speaker 1: were running all over and they got a running game
Speaker 1: and Zeke was he there. Yeah, I'm disagreed with you, Rob,
Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm disagreed. Fly Eagle flys No. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's obviously you never want to see injuries,
Speaker 1: especially for someone who is having an MVP season. But
Speaker 1: a lot of people were saying, this is so Philly
Speaker 1: right now, you know, to have a team that could
Speaker 1: really compete, really make a playoff run, and then it
Speaker 1: looks like it looked like their year for a long
Speaker 1: stretch may not you know, again, it may not be over.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's Jerry spoke to it on the fan today.
Speaker 1: It's like it shows you how fragile that position is
Speaker 1: when you have a mobile quarterback and he's running, and
Speaker 1: it's great that you can make plays with your feet,
Speaker 1: but that can cost you. Having to Cowboys last year
Speaker 1: with Tony for Sanagi kept up catch up with the
Speaker 1: quarterback that runs too much. Yeah, he played six games
Speaker 1: without Ezekiel Elliott, you should be right in the middle
Speaker 1: of all this. So that's that's a good point, Brian,
Speaker 1: because yes, you should be right and you should be
Speaker 1: putting pressure on Philadelphia right now. Yeah, without Zeke, if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do get to ten wins, that's very impressive
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, no, it is because we were kind
Speaker 1: of thinking, what's you know, we were trying to say,
Speaker 1: what's their record need to be after the three game
Speaker 1: or the three game in twelve days thing. I think
Speaker 1: we were all saying, you did a poll. I think
Speaker 1: it was two and one. Everybody was kind of on
Speaker 1: the two and one train. You were owing three. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, now, you mean you've gotta you've you've got
Speaker 1: to go get this game in Oakland and get I
Speaker 1: mean yourself as yet and I'll take my chances that
Speaker 1: the fact that Zekiel we hadn't heard anything about him, no,
Speaker 1: no problems, no, you know, no fights, no nothing. You know,
Speaker 1: I always thought this would be the scary game of
Speaker 1: the five. It is. It is just going to Oakland. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys. They get gets everybody's hair on edge. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with Mickey there see that, And that's
Speaker 1: why I'm saying you gotta go get Brian. I talked
Speaker 1: about this yesterday and that's kind of what the polls
Speaker 1: about today. They've got a lot of talent, they just
Speaker 1: haven't played what they thought what they did one game
Speaker 1: less than the Cowboys. Yeah. There, and they're in the
Speaker 1: middle of the fight. Yeah, Bridge got a chance, right.
Speaker 1: Scanning called him out the other day like, hey, you're
Speaker 1: playing for the playoffs to win the division. You got
Speaker 1: to give that kind of effort against Kansas City. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How many more home games do they have too? You know,
Speaker 1: the Raiders have to look it up? Do they got
Speaker 1: They got the LA Chargers at the end of it,
Speaker 1: they're going to Philly. Yeah, they gotta go to They
Speaker 1: got Dallas at home at Philly, and then they've got
Speaker 1: I think they got the Chargers at home to play
Speaker 1: the Chargers one more time at home. So I didn't
Speaker 1: know if this was like the last home game at Oakland.
Speaker 1: I think they gotta play one more season in Oakland,
Speaker 1: don't they. We can't get that stadium built. There are
Speaker 1: some there's some question of back in the summer, like
Speaker 1: would Oakland want them to stay another year? And yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, or aren't they going to play I
Speaker 1: don't know, remember that San Diego. They got a college
Speaker 1: stadium stadium in Vegas. Yeah, the UNLV stadium, that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna play at a soccer field, but the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles church man, wouldn't you love to be in
Speaker 1: the AFC West right now? How about the Chargers can
Speaker 1: win that vision and get a home playoff game and
Speaker 1: thirty in front of the thirty thousand fans and they
Speaker 1: started owing four? They did, They did. That team's playing
Speaker 1: a lot better. I'm sick of seeing that one stat.
Speaker 1: They always show it week two of the NFL season,
Speaker 1: Like if you go owing to your playoff chances, you know,
Speaker 1: because they make it seem like you can't lose this game.
Speaker 1: Even try to work people to figure those percentages out
Speaker 1: right there, my people, Yeah, five thirty eight just a
Speaker 1: Twitter or they're showing all kinds of they're your guys
Speaker 1: showing all kind of you know these are Mickey's guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, it is the Oakland's last home game
Speaker 1: of this season. Yes, they go to Philly and then
Speaker 1: at LA Sunday Night football. A lot of Cowboys fans,
Speaker 1: a lot of rates. We'll get to be able to
Speaker 1: say we saw the last game at a call of
Speaker 1: sam if I think you guys need to take it
Speaker 1: all in, Yeah, why not pick it all in whle
Speaker 1: we saw the last rate Redskins game at RFK, we did,
Speaker 1: closed it and opened the new stadium. What year was
Speaker 1: at I want to say it was ninety six or
Speaker 1: ninety seven, somewhere in there. Yeah, well, let's take our
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Speaker 1: isn't the sack leader. This week's Chandler Jones has moved
Speaker 1: above him with fourteen, But DeMarcus Lawrence still probably having
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl season. Sure you think he'll absolutely? Absolutely yeah?
Speaker 1: Who else would be a Pro Bowl He's allowed to play.
Speaker 1: It's going to be announced in a week from today.
Speaker 1: You don't crossed your mind that they might suspend him
Speaker 1: for what he said. I would be surprised suspension over this.
Speaker 1: Fine Zeke got suspended. Fine, I see I see a
Speaker 1: fine Yeah, yeah, he knew what casting it. Other Pro
Speaker 1: bowlers take. Yeah. On this current roster, I think your
Speaker 1: offensive lineman I think have earned that one. I still
Speaker 1: think all three of your all pros. I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: shocked at all if Tyrn, Zach, and Travis are all
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl again. Um no, for Chris Jones
Speaker 1: maybe being a first time I like that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: special teamers. Yeah, yeah, I think I think he's right
Speaker 1: about the I think he's right about the offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: If if I had to say that one of them,
Speaker 1: if would you be surprised if only one of them
Speaker 1: made it? I'd be surprised. Yes, I expect two of
Speaker 1: the three at least to be in. And which ones
Speaker 1: do you think, Martin and Frederick or Yeah? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Tyran doesn't get in this year because
Speaker 1: he's only missed a couple of games. So I think
Speaker 1: they're still regarded as arguably the three best at their
Speaker 1: respective positions in the league. And a lot of times
Speaker 1: you know that that gets you in because because a
Speaker 1: fan voting is now a third of this thing, right,
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if if you
Speaker 1: could say, okay, can you just pick one and what
Speaker 1: you know right now? If you and again I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to slam anybody, I guess I would just say Frederick.
Speaker 1: Who would be the one guy that you pick if
Speaker 1: if they said, Okay, you're only going to get one
Speaker 1: of these guys, I would say Frederick. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: we all agree on that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: just you haven't really one worried about his position ever
Speaker 1: knock on wood. Yeah. And then two, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think he had a few odd penalties in the first
Speaker 1: four weeks holding call yeah against the Rams. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think that to me that if you
Speaker 1: want to talk about the guy that's been the most
Speaker 1: consistent for you throughout, yeah, it has to be Frederick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's the guy that has to initiate everything upfront
Speaker 1: pre snap. And there's been a change at left guard
Speaker 1: this season, there's been a change at right tackle, and
Speaker 1: so he's kind of the point man there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say Travis of the three on Lee's going
Speaker 1: to get late vote. Oh, you know, you never know
Speaker 1: with all these different injuries that are happening and different
Speaker 1: teams that are in the playoffs. I mean, say, you
Speaker 1: know the Seahawks, Wagner, you know he can't go or something. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's how it happens. I mean, Dez Bryant he missed
Speaker 1: four games last season, still made it to the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it was because of altern there's
Speaker 1: my concern on Chris Jones. And this is what happens
Speaker 1: with pick kickers punters. They just pick up the stats, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they look at it, and he in the leading
Speaker 1: punters when it comes to net average average. His is
Speaker 1: forty one point seven. That's the net average, So that's ninth.
Speaker 1: He's got more than anybody inside the twenty. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: his total average is forty three point eight. He's twenty sixth. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when they look at that stuff, they don't get
Speaker 1: to inside to twenty. They don't analyze it. They'll just
Speaker 1: look at, Oh, uh, Kern from Tennessee's averaging fifty one
Speaker 1: point five yards a kick. Well, that's because the Tennessee
Speaker 1: offense is probably so bad. He's got a long field
Speaker 1: to kick all the time. What's the what's the that's
Speaker 1: the drawback with that? What's did they have the the
Speaker 1: return yardage against him? Yes, and he's like the lowest
Speaker 1: in the league, right, Yeah, I'm gonna say he's one
Speaker 1: of the lowest when it comes to actual return yardage.
Speaker 1: His they have and they might not have that, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: return yards, it's fifty five for the whole how many
Speaker 1: for everything? For fifty four punts? There he needs to
Speaker 1: be in that conversation. And there's games this year where
Speaker 1: he's been at times the best weapon they've got. That
Speaker 1: Arizona game, he was outstanding. Yeah, when your offense is
Speaker 1: having trouble moving the ball, and yeah, really good year friends.
Speaker 1: And it looks like he is and I'm doing this
Speaker 1: real quickly, it looks like he's second in inside the twenty.
Speaker 1: Um Vogel of Green Bay has thirty or no, yeah,
Speaker 1: Vogel green Bay has thirty three. He has twenty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but see, I don't know if they'll go and look
Speaker 1: at that stuff. That's the thing. Yeah, And you know
Speaker 1: last year with Chaunley, he did make it as an alternate,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people found out that, you know,
Speaker 1: he was entered in a different category, different position. Right,
Speaker 1: it was to help his chances, but then it ended
Speaker 1: up hurting him. And it wasn't a different position. They
Speaker 1: just had him as a linebacker and it included the
Speaker 1: three four linebackers right end up being defensive ends and
Speaker 1: getting a bunch of sacks, which is which is unfair.
Speaker 1: You're welcome, Thank you just clear it up for us.
Speaker 1: But do you guys think that Jason Witten will make
Speaker 1: another Pro Bowl in his career. I mean, he's obviously
Speaker 1: been to ten. He has not been to one since
Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen season. Here's the thing about Jason. Brian
Speaker 1: has spoken this before. His game has evolved, you know,
Speaker 1: to where he's not. He's always been a prolific pass catcher,
Speaker 1: but now, especially with Zeke coming in and even with
Speaker 1: DeMarco a few years ago, he's taken a sort of
Speaker 1: a secondary role as a blocker and helping in that
Speaker 1: part of the game because that's been become like the
Speaker 1: primary function of the offense. And so it makes him
Speaker 1: a complete tight end. But from a number standpoint point,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think, like Mickey said, with punting,
Speaker 1: and you look at the catches and the touchdowns, he
Speaker 1: may not get in just off of that, but he's
Speaker 1: arguably the most complete tight end we've ever seen in
Speaker 1: this league. And the way he's adapted his game as
Speaker 1: he's gotten older is really impressive. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if it speaks to Pro Bowl like stats. Yeah, other
Speaker 1: guys in the NFC tight end wise, you know, Kyle Rudolph,
Speaker 1: I don't know what type of season he's really had.
Speaker 1: Who else him? I thinking that would be well, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's all these guys now that the Grintkowskis of the world.
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't count for wit. No. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying though, I'm just saying that the generally
Speaker 1: the tight ends now, they're all such pass catchers that
Speaker 1: their numbers are huge. Yeah, Olson Graham, I mean, the
Speaker 1: numbers are huge. And because you know, and you're right, Rob,
Speaker 1: he's he's evolved into because his team runs the ball
Speaker 1: forty seven percent of the time. You know, he's he's
Speaker 1: he's had to change his game. And that's why Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett always talks about him as being the complete guy.
Speaker 1: You know when you when you look, yeah, he's you know,
Speaker 1: you can match him up and say, hey, point of attack, blocker,
Speaker 1: you know, inline blocker, downfield route run, I mean, all
Speaker 1: those things hands everything about him is complete, which is like,
Speaker 1: you can't say that a lot about a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys that are gonna get Pro Bowl votes because
Speaker 1: we see the numbers and we see the touchdowns and
Speaker 1: things like that. And he just doesn't have you know,
Speaker 1: he has like one or two catches, it seems like,
Speaker 1: but you know, generally might be one touchdown, but it's
Speaker 1: not not having eight catches in a touchdown two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Earn says, fifty seven catches, seven touchdowns. Yeah, Ingram's got
Speaker 1: fifty five catches, four touchdowns. Rudolph has fifty three catches
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. Braham has fifty two catches nine touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: then Witten fifty two with five touchdowns. He had two
Speaker 1: targets in the game the other day and they both
Speaker 1: I think came in the second half, and that's just
Speaker 1: kind of the way the game went, you know. But
Speaker 1: made classic catchdown the seam, big play in the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: before we go to our final break, let's hear from
Speaker 1: Denny in Hawaii. Thanks for calling us all the way
Speaker 1: from Hawaii. Hellohay, how are you doing, Mickey? I missed
Speaker 1: you by four I missed you by four days on
Speaker 1: the Star Sports stores. Yeah you was at the Chargers game.
Speaker 1: But thank you, Brian, thank you all sports stories, um,
Speaker 1: thank you for absolutely but um. Yeah, two points I
Speaker 1: want to make is uh because how important are against
Speaker 1: the Raiders? How important will our defensive tackles be because
Speaker 1: like how you was talking, like how we were talking
Speaker 1: about last week, the Giant's not good at second level blocking,
Speaker 1: but the Raiders are so how important do you think
Speaker 1: that the defensive tackles are going to be in this game?
Speaker 1: And also, um, really quick Kivon Frasier, I think she
Speaker 1: should get a little consideration for pro bow as a
Speaker 1: special teamer as well as Chris Jones because, um, the
Speaker 1: way Cavan Frasier has been helping us and all that
Speaker 1: that that is a that that has been help helping
Speaker 1: us a lot on the special team as far as
Speaker 1: like getting returns and stuff like that. And finally, um,
Speaker 1: I gotta give credit to our defense. You know, we
Speaker 1: were losing the field position battle, I guess the Giants
Speaker 1: because the Giants was getting on at the thirty five
Speaker 1: forty in that third quarter, and we helped tight against
Speaker 1: them the whole time. So I like to give credit
Speaker 1: to them. Thank you guys so much. Melia. What did
Speaker 1: you say. I think you said happy holidays? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, you guys know that. Huh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's happy holidays to you two. Denny, great, it's great.
Speaker 1: Defensive tackles in this game. Yeah, I think when you're
Speaker 1: talking about with the Raiders, you know, as much as
Speaker 1: we want to get into about car and what he's done,
Speaker 1: you know this running the football though with Lynch, that
Speaker 1: that that's something you have to fear a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't think that, you know, the in the in
Speaker 1: the Kansas City game, they got behind and they had
Speaker 1: to come out throwing the football. But I would worry
Speaker 1: about them loading up again and saying, Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about Wayne Gallman last week and I think
Speaker 1: Gallman had thirteen carries fifty nine yards if I'm right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if the Giants could have just
Speaker 1: kind of maintained some things and you know, they could
Speaker 1: have kept running the football, I think you have to
Speaker 1: worry about that. And I think that you have to
Speaker 1: worry about, you know, their offensive line. I will say
Speaker 1: this about their offensive line. It is a big, big,
Speaker 1: big group, big size wise. But when watching Kansas City
Speaker 1: against them this morning, movement gives them problems. And I
Speaker 1: mean movement, I mean the slants that we've seen the
Speaker 1: Twist game stuff like that. They are they are I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're slow footed, but they're such a large group.
Speaker 1: When you're talking those three hundred and twenty pound guys,
Speaker 1: they're not athletic three and twenty pounds like a tyrant smith.
Speaker 1: They're built differently. They're built differently. Yeah, they're built to
Speaker 1: sit in out. Now, that quarterback will throw from the pocket.
Speaker 1: He will sit there and throw from the pocket. But
Speaker 1: what they do is they get on you and they
Speaker 1: push you, and they mash on you, and then they
Speaker 1: allow they allow the back to make those cuts. That's
Speaker 1: where I would worry Abolis. And they get into a
Speaker 1: game where it's we're just gonna mash on your front
Speaker 1: and see if you're good enough to hold up there.
Speaker 1: That's where I would have a little little pause. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good points. All right, Well, let's take our final break here.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I really don't. I'm just gonna kind
Speaker 1: of show up and see what Bennett was what was
Speaker 1: on the menu? Yeah, see what Bennett? Yeah, he's a
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Speaker 1: into the Today's poll toughest challenge against Oakland this week
Speaker 1: we mentioned Marshawn Lynch. There's one, Yeah, Derek Carr obviously
Speaker 1: their quarterback, good young quarterback. Raiders offensive line which is
Speaker 1: built into that running game. Yea or Khalil Mack their
Speaker 1: elite pass rusher on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Guys got a vote? Who clue Mac? He's a beast? Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell you what, though, you're right, tackle has been playing
Speaker 1: pretty well. Hey, Lyle got a few snaps against him
Speaker 1: in preseason and a nice job. Yeah, so it's preseason,
Speaker 1: but I think Lyle's last two games might be the
Speaker 1: best stretch of his of his season so far, given
Speaker 1: what he's been playing through. Mickey totally on board now
Speaker 1: with the run game, with with Hitchens and Lee back,
Speaker 1: that's defending the run. Yeah, I'm good. There, You're good.
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna go You're not gonna go there.
Speaker 1: You're gona go there. You're not gonna worry about the
Speaker 1: I'm gonna worry about Car because if they don't get
Speaker 1: pressure on him, he could hurt him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And he's one of those players like you look at
Speaker 1: it and people are like, well, you had a bad
Speaker 1: game last week, but he's he's not very you know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's not like he has huge stretches of
Speaker 1: bad games. He'll go out and throw you. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wish just before he threw like two touchdowns, I was
Speaker 1: talking all about the run game there and those big
Speaker 1: lineman leaning on you the whole day. You know, I
Speaker 1: would kind of think that, you know, I think Mickey's
Speaker 1: right about with Lee and about Hitchens and can you
Speaker 1: get David Irvan back. I think that will help inside
Speaker 1: if he if he can make that work. But I
Speaker 1: think I worry about Car. I worry about him getting hot.
Speaker 1: The problem is, though, when you watch the Raiders receivers,
Speaker 1: they have a lot of drops. I mean, can't just it.
Speaker 1: He made a lot of contested plays, you know on them.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that's one of those things.
Speaker 1: You got Crabtree, you got Cooper. I mean, you don't know.
Speaker 1: Cooper got banged up in the game last week. You
Speaker 1: like the way the Cowboys young corners played. I do
Speaker 1: like the way the Cowboys young corners played in the
Speaker 1: game the other day. But I worry about car getting hot.
Speaker 1: If if in fact, you can't get pressure, if all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that offensive line does hold up, you know,
Speaker 1: and they and they're able to you know, and you
Speaker 1: can't and you don't use your quickness to get around him.
Speaker 1: You don't make moves, you know, you just rush up
Speaker 1: the field, You rush into the middle of them, you know,
Speaker 1: because Carl will stand there and throw the ball to
Speaker 1: middle that pocket. Yeah, you know. Now, Kenny's receivers make
Speaker 1: some plays for him, and that they haven't been consistent enough.
Speaker 1: Last year they made all plays. It's sure. It seems
Speaker 1: like they're not making as many. It looks like they're
Speaker 1: they're leading receivers cup. You're looking at the Cooper cup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was He's a La Ramps. Yeah, yeah, Crabtree A
Speaker 1: Cooper is the Amari Cooper? Is he good to go
Speaker 1: for this week? That's what I'm saying. I mean, we
Speaker 1: got to figure that out. That's Mickey's injury report. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, we'll know more Wednesday, maybe, yeah,
Speaker 1: more Wednesday. Yeah. But I would I guess my vote
Speaker 1: would be for Car as well. Okay, I would vote
Speaker 1: for crimes. Sorry I went long and long. No, that's good.
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about I was trying to talk myself
Speaker 1: into the running game. But maybe maybe it's the offensive
Speaker 1: Did you say the offensive line? Yeah, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of everything's kind of built off that front. Okay, this
Speaker 1: will this will, this will cover me, then this will
Speaker 1: cover me. I am worried about their offensive line because
Speaker 1: if they can establish leaning on you and mashing you
Speaker 1: in the running game, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it turns into oh wait, they go play action and
Speaker 1: car has all day to throw the football because there's
Speaker 1: they're worried about playing the run. I would worry about
Speaker 1: that big offensive line. Had the Cowboys played against a good, big,
Speaker 1: physical offensive line. When we think about all the things
Speaker 1: that we've had to deal with this year, had they
Speaker 1: had they played some get some really bad offensive lines
Speaker 1: and teams banged up. Yeah, they haven't played against citybuddy.
Speaker 1: Anybody's offensive line just totally oppressed you, Mickey. You know, Denver,
Speaker 1: I guess did a great job because they mashed you
Speaker 1: on that game. Maybe Atlanta. Atlanta mashed you a little
Speaker 1: bit on that Philadelphia mashed you. Yeah, Philly Billy mash you.
Speaker 1: That's an athletic that's a that's an athletic group over
Speaker 1: a big size group. They mashed you pretty good. So
Speaker 1: Crab Trees their leading receiver with forty nine catches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Next is their tight end, Cook Cook forty eight. We
Speaker 1: all well know him from Green Bay day. We've seen
Speaker 1: enough at him. Don't make any more of those plays plays.
Speaker 1: And then Cooper forty two catch So I guess there're
Speaker 1: receivers on our lead because they've got less receptions than
Speaker 1: days don't. Yeah. Well, Khalil Mack wins the pole forty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: worried about the rush, followed by Derek Carr at twenty three.
Speaker 1: It's the name, Yeah, it's the name you here, Khalil
Speaker 1: Mack and it's intimidation. Yeah, and it's AFC, so you
Speaker 1: don't face him a lot. Right, Well, i'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. They've got a guy too on
Speaker 1: the other side you need to worry about. Is Bruce Serving.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Bruce Serving. They've got two. Here's another
Speaker 1: team with two rushers, you know, two rushers. Figure it out.
Speaker 1: Figure out you That's surprising because people have people have
Speaker 1: I think maybe all those offensive players kind of cancel
Speaker 1: each other out in the poll and they're going with it.
Speaker 1: Like Tay said, he is a name, he's a top
Speaker 1: pass rusher in the NFL, and and the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: struggled to protect Dak for stretches in these five games
Speaker 1: without Zeke, No question about it been better the last
Speaker 1: couple of games. Obviously, Cowboys play them in preseason. Yes,
Speaker 1: but here Alans actually did a pretty good job with him.
Speaker 1: It was preseasoned though, just said that you're looking at
Speaker 1: your stats. I was, yep, you know he's gonna be
Speaker 1: hyped up for this. There will be a few guys
Speaker 1: who will be hyped up. But I know that Bryce
Speaker 1: Butler has had this date circled for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Obviously he will be active, But that's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say. You know, he's dealing with the foot. He
Speaker 1: was inactive last week, right, will will he be able
Speaker 1: to go? I think it's a situation you're looking at
Speaker 1: with Bryce Butler is what does Bryce Butler bring to
Speaker 1: you that maybe another extra defensive guy, march Lillard or
Speaker 1: somebody like that. You know, march Lower I think had
Speaker 1: a couple of tackles on special teams the other day.
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's not something that's real sexy
Speaker 1: and all that, but do you need the extra defensive lineman?
Speaker 1: You know, do you need the extra pass rushers, especially
Speaker 1: if you're in a game where someone's gonna mash on you,
Speaker 1: do you need more bodies there to kind of take
Speaker 1: the pounding. Yeah, he's had the foot thing that's bothered
Speaker 1: him for a few weeks. Bryce, and and we've talked
Speaker 1: about Noah Brown special teams getting him to the game.
Speaker 1: But you know, he actually had more snaps on offense
Speaker 1: than Bryce did two games ago. So you know, how
Speaker 1: much can Bryce help on special teams if he's active?
Speaker 1: That's you know, like you said, Brian, that all goes
Speaker 1: into the equation. But I don't know. He's he's definitely
Speaker 1: guy who can stretch the field for you when you
Speaker 1: put him in the game. Why is that that's like
Speaker 1: our fallback line for well, but he is that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that brings to the table. But that's our that's our
Speaker 1: scene from him. Yeah, that's what you've seen and that's
Speaker 1: a shame. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that is his best asset. You
Speaker 1: would say, okay, what's you know, what does what does
Speaker 1: this guy do? He stretches the field? Do they stretch
Speaker 1: the field? They don't. What does Noah Brown do? Now
Speaker 1: Noah Brown plays special teams? Okay, that doesn't help my offense.
Speaker 1: He helps you the running game that he blocks. I
Speaker 1: need a wide receiver to help in the running game.
Speaker 1: Are you saying don't trust anything? I mean, I just
Speaker 1: think when he goes in there, the neon sign goes
Speaker 1: off and it says run. Yeah. They threw the ball
Speaker 1: to him on the inside, and they threw the ball
Speaker 1: on the sideline to him. He had that it's behind him,
Speaker 1: he had and they try to get him another one
Speaker 1: in I'm just saying, when he goes in, it seems
Speaker 1: like it's always a run. It's like you're tipping air.
Speaker 1: Sound like you want to draft a receiver. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind it. I want a toy. I want a toy
Speaker 1: out there. We had okay and I said, I said
Speaker 1: fever and you said no, you said draft your running back.
Speaker 1: You can't get your toy receiver open anyway. It's it
Speaker 1: could be either one of those two. Now you're changing,
Speaker 1: but you can't get those You can't get those guys open. Mickey, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean a Nate Lance Dunbar healthy. Yeah, he's on,
Speaker 1: said nobody, because the healthy part was never. I don't know,
Speaker 1: are you? Yeah, But I'm just saying, when Chris it's
Speaker 1: a running play, you know, I mean Street came in
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. You know all those times
Speaker 1: when they motioned Terrence Williams and they put him right off,
Speaker 1: They bring another guy in the box. Yeah, it just
Speaker 1: brings a knife guy in the box, because now you
Speaker 1: got another guy to stop the run. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna go out for a pass there? Is he? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Does he? Well? They they one time they shot him
Speaker 1: through there at least they fooled me on the touchdown past.
Speaker 1: Is Bryce on a two year deal or one year
Speaker 1: deal he's done, yeah, and Terrence is four years. He's
Speaker 1: got four years, four years. Yeah, Yeah, that's right. See
Speaker 1: I so, yeah, you could look at receiver. I'm all
Speaker 1: for Mickey and getting a toy, but he's got a
Speaker 1: couple of toys that he doesn't play with him or
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to use the toy. Are you
Speaker 1: talking about linihannihan, he's talking about not using Switzer, Switzer
Speaker 1: or Beasley. I think teams have kind of taken Beasley
Speaker 1: away at times. They doubled him a couple of times
Speaker 1: in the sure the one time he was singlely at
Speaker 1: him for fifty yards. Yeah, and again you want to
Speaker 1: put Switzer in. Who's coming off the field? Oh no,
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand what your staves to be Witt.
Speaker 1: What if it what if it's Terrence Williams could be
Speaker 1: I mean, but somebody's got to come off the field
Speaker 1: to get him on the field. I like seeing the
Speaker 1: occasionally when they run the formation they got Beasley and Switzer.
Speaker 1: That's great. They did that a couple of times the
Speaker 1: other day for you. Yeah, but somebody's gotta come off
Speaker 1: the field get him month then maybe something? Are you
Speaker 1: taking off the fields Taco? Right? I wouldn't you know say,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, take Witting off the field. He's been in
Speaker 1: there having to help blocking a lot, especially your lineman
Speaker 1: banged up up front, so that you have to think
Speaker 1: about that too. You can't go empty all the time.
Speaker 1: Who would you rather see have better success? Would you
Speaker 1: rather have Switzer or Butler? Oh? I'd rather see Butler
Speaker 1: have success because then he's getting the ball down the
Speaker 1: field and I've got a bigger target. I can't have two.
Speaker 1: It's hard with those two guys. I means it sounds good,
Speaker 1: but it hasn't. Your crowfers show me now it hasn't developed. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: but it's because we haven't tried it, right. Well, you
Speaker 1: tried it with four wide, right, yeah? Yeah? Butler usually
Speaker 1: comes in when you're three wide. They take Beasley out
Speaker 1: as stretches the field, right, oh nineteen he does when
Speaker 1: he's in there. Yeah, but did they throw him the
Speaker 1: ball down the field? It did in Arizona, Oh how
Speaker 1: many years ago? Well back, that was back to back
Speaker 1: plays down the field. That was play action when they
Speaker 1: protect can throw it down the field. Yeah, now that's
Speaker 1: been better, right, you got your offensive line health. Should
Speaker 1: have had a touchdown to Dez Yeah down the field. Well,
Speaker 1: I should have thrown it farther. He run right under it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You guys want to throw the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: They don't throw the ball down the field. They run
Speaker 1: and catch, they rack you. Oh no, they done after no, no,
Speaker 1: this last game, this last game they did. But they're
Speaker 1: one of the worst of the league when it comes
Speaker 1: to run after kiss. Maybe they're building. I bet no more, huh,
Speaker 1: I said, I bet they're not no more now after
Speaker 1: that last Oh, they they got a partick the two
Speaker 1: hundred yards worth of yacking. How okay, one more time?
Speaker 1: Have we seen any run after catch from this this
Speaker 1: Recetephen Corps all year Terrence Williams last week week okay?
Speaker 1: Sometimes okay, with the exception, okay, with the exception of
Speaker 1: what the Giants throughout you last week Terrence Williams is
Speaker 1: the sideways count? Yeah, well he can run sideways in
Speaker 1: a heartbeat. Whoop toe drags? Where what about what about
Speaker 1: the crazy crazy Beasley catch? Week one, catches it over
Speaker 1: his head. It's like a seven yard game, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a little bit longer than that.
Speaker 1: Or no, he weren't talking about yards after yards? When
Speaker 1: did they When did they caught a ball other than
Speaker 1: last week? And and and and gone. Zeke Yeah, Zeke
Speaker 1: on the screen. Yeah, when he had that seventy two
Speaker 1: yard run. But no, I mean it wasn't run. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about passed. I know, but I didn't know if
Speaker 1: he got it out of the back. I think it
Speaker 1: was just a design run. It was what you're saying,
Speaker 1: this is something they can improve on. I'm hopeful. But
Speaker 1: he's telling me about toys and then you want to
Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field and they don't do
Speaker 1: either one. Yeah, I'm saying, am I am? I right?
Speaker 1: I just want Zeke back. I'm sure Zeke really misses you.
Speaker 1: But that's all the time we have coming back. Thank you, guys,
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