WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Odds To Make The Postseason? 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:07.360 This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:16.840 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as Now your 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.960 host Mickey Spagnola. Brian brought us Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:28.280 Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage studio. It's Tuesday here 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.080 at the Star, getting ready to go on the road 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:35.519 to Oakland Raider Territory. But yeah, black hole. Yeah, before 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.760 we do that, Big Brian brought us. It's your birthday 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.600 today and we celebrated. Thank you, Thank you, appreciate that 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.320 for you today, Thank you me birthday, Bud, appreciate that. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.559 Thank you. I have to step aside. Now you get 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.360 to Yeah, I get to. Yeah, you get to share 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.920 the stage. We now, Mick, we'll celebrate you in another 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.360 three hundred and sixty four days. There you go. Yeah, 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.800 countdowns on Mick. Yeah, the countdown is on now. Brian, 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.960 you know it's Raiders week. We're getting ready to readers experience. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.920 He almost almost went to work there. Yeah, when Bill 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.640 Parcel has had enough of me, I got to one 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.280 of the greatest interviews I ever had. I mean I 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.440 was I usually not nervous talking to people, but when 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.399 I got to talk to al Davis. I sat there 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.160 for like four hours and just talked and talked and 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.320 talked and talked, kind of like Jerry where there's kind 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.840 of an aura there. It's it's one of those things 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.679 where he walks in the room. There's only a couple 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.760 of people. Jerry's like that. We Reggie White was another 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.240 one for me where he walked in the room and 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.520 it kind of you kind of like caught your breath 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.360 kind of thing. But sitting to talk with al Davis, Yeah, 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.440 that was that was interesting to say the least. Four 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.440 hours four hours, no way, Yeah, all about football or 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.680 all about football. He didn't hire you, he did, Oh 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.200 he did, he did, he could he but he asked me. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.200 He asked me. He interviewed me in May, and he 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.080 didn't bring me on until August and then. But the 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.240 way he hired me was strange. This is one of 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.640 my favorite broadest stories. Yeah, I know, that's it's a 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.680 good one to start with it. This is really shouldn't 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.560 stay year at the at the Alameda facility, which is 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.960 right by the airport. Uh. They they have a hotel 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.799 that's right next door to their complex. Literally, you could 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.720 hit like a sandwich it's just that close, just a 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.480 little sandwich from one to the other, sort like their 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.359 farmer training camp facility knocksnar absolutely same, very same. And 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.359 so I was sitting there in uh you know, I 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:25.880 was there a week. I was actually there two weeks, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.440 and like, you know, mister Davis never told me how 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.440 much he was going to pay me or any of 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:34.360 these things he was now. I mean, he just you know, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.680 he says, well, you know, come on board. Well we'll say. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.239 I'm thinking, okay, I'm gonna go. At the time, I'm married, 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.640 Benny was just born basically, and so I'm thinking, okay, 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.440 well here I'm getting ready to move my family to California. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.840 So like a week goes by and Kathy, I actually 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.600 asked me. She goes, h, hey, has he ever talked 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.919 to you about moving or anything like that as you 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.120 talked to you about finance. And I'm saying, no, I haven't. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:58.760 I've just I've just been working. I've been trying to 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.280 get ready for the season, and she goes, Okay. So 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.920 another week goes and he still hasn't said anything to me. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.519 So yeah, so Kathy is now out of her mind. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:13.480 She's like, Okay, figure this out. Now. So sure enough, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.320 I go into mister Davis's office and I talked to 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.160 him and he goes, well, Brian, what I like for 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.519 you to do is I like for you to live 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.679 in the hotel next door, and I'll pay you two 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.000 thousand dollars a month. And I looked atim. I said, 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.720 mister Davis, I got a wife and a kid. I 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.040 can't you know, I'm not like an intern guy. I mean, 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.320 I'm right college. I'm not out of college. I mean, 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:34.600 but you know, it's one of those things where if 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.480 I didn't have a wife and kid, I might have 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.640 taken the job and said, okay, I'm back in. I'll 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.480 just do what I have to do. But he goes, 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.720 I just want to kind of try you out. But 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.560 he interviewed me for four hours, brought me in later 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.640 in the summer, and then and then he wanted to 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.200 try me out and I and I looked him. I said, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.840 mister Davis, I really can't do this. Yeah. He goes, Okay, 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.080 he goes, that's good. He goes, that's fine. You know, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.440 well you can pack up and go now. And so 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.680 I said, okay. So I packed up my stuff and 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.160 went by Michael Lombardi's office. Who was Mike was working 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.200 director player personnel. I said, Mike, the old man just 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.760 got rid of me. He said, why see you later? Yeah, exactly, goes. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.080 I go. He goes, what do you mean he got 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:14.640 rid of He goes, he wouldn't tell me. Ay, he 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:15.880 didn't want it. He wanted me to live in the 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.480 hotel and be wanted to pay me two grand am months. Yeah, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.920 he goes, Really has you already started working there? I've 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.760 been working there for two weeks. I'd been working for 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.120 two weeks. And one of the things that's interesting about 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:33.360 working with the Raiders is that mister Davis likes to call. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.920 He would call all the personnel directors. We all had offices. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:38.520 I mean, I have my own office, which was really 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.520 cool looking over the practice field actually, and so like 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.919 all the personnel guys offices were lined up next to 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:49.039 each other. So mister Davis would call and he wanted 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.000 to know what was going on, what was your opinion 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.919 and all. So we would have meetings. We would have 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.839 meetings there at the facility. Before he would call to say, okay, listen, 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.279 we don't need to tell the old man. And this 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.440 we would hide things from him. I mean, we would say, okay, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.600 we need to kind of think about this, and no, don't, don't, 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.600 don't talk because he'd always all he was looking for was, oh, Brian, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.000 what you think about the tight end situation with the team? 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.120 You know? And I well, mister Davis, you know how 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.120 to go in and so we would we were all 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.960 trained to say, like, these are the guys we wanted 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:24.440 to play, not who he wanted to play, so everybody, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.640 but all he was looking for was one guy. Well, okay, 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:30.560 every morning, well excuse me, every afternoon the phone would 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.440 ring in one office, and then it would ring in 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.039 the next office, and then it would ring in the 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.640 next office, and then it would ring in the next night. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.359 You could hear it going down the hall because he 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.600 was just calling and in. The unusual thing about Al 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.880 Davis is he worked at night. Yeah, he was like 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.800 he could call you like at three in the morning. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.240 We would be work. We'd get there at seven and 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.360 you know, seven eight o'clock, we're about ready to go home, 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.520 and he was just coming in, so you didn't know 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.800 when you were gonna get that three am. I'm watching tape. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.560 What's what's the deal Brian with it, you know, so 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.120 really a fascinating man, he mean, a very fascinating man. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.920 And I you know what, but it was it was, Yeah, 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.000 two weeks with the Oakland Raiders. If you looked at him, 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.480 he could have played in the Vampire Chronicles. Yeah, he 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.320 you know was And I could you know what? And 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:18.760 I can confirm what Brian saying because an owners meeting 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:23.640 my good friend Joe Avazano, assistant coach there for two years, 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:28.640 three years maybe and north he told me that when 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.120 when when when al Davis came walking down the hallway, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.800 everybody would scatter, scatter, and they were trying to avoid 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.599 him because he was looking to see what you knew 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.760 and if what you knew was what he wanted to know, right, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.240 and he would test you, he would test you and 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.760 sure like he'd already made his mind up on something. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.719 And then he was trying to see if you agreed 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.320 with you without letting him know. And and Joe said, coach, 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.360 the assistant coaches just scattered. Yeah, when he came, he was, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.280 he was, he was out of there, you're out of there. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.440 He didn't want and you didn't want to get caught. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.840 You were fearful for your job. What was really unusual? 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.600 Can I have real quick tap if I told a story, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.240 I'm sorry, I mean, but this is about his office 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.240 and anwo me at the time was beautiful. I mean huge, 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.840 big oak table, I mean pictures and Super Bowl trophies 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:20.320 and I mean just glory. But where he where he 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.920 did all his business from, was just a single chair 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.440 and a TV tray like your mom and dad had 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.400 in the you know, maybe you're you know, you're moved 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.160 into your living room. Yeah, like you know, yeah, like 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.680 the fifty Yeah, yeah, we have TV tray. You know, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:33.920 we sit down and you put in your lap and 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.480 you kind of watch yourself. Yeah, wooden. He had a 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.000 wooden TV tray and he had his phone on that 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.240 tray and he sat there with a towel in his lap, 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.640 a folded white towel, And that's kind of what he did. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.480 I mean I sat there and I'm like, I'm talking 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.160 to him, and I mean four hours I sat there 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.080 and talked. It was it was. It was fascinating interview. 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.920 I mean, he grilled me, but he wanted to know 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.680 about the cowboys. That was his thing. He wanted to 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.360 know about. Okay, well, why did why did Jerry do 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.880 this and why does Jerry do that? You know, I 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.440 mean that's how he you know, he talked and I 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.000 just spilled. I mean, I'm I'm talking to a Hall 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:15.280 of Fame owner everything. I'm just like bah, I'm just bah, 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.640 you know, doing that bit and you know everything I 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.760 knew and it was it was, it was, but it 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.520 was fascinating football. I wish football people just fans. I 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.480 wish fans could get to talk to guys like Al 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.240 Davis because he loved the game. He really really did 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.240 love the game. Jerry had a good one this morning. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.360 That was his friend Raiders. Did you hear that? Did 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.480 you practice? Yes? I heard that training camp practice and 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.320 I remember it happened. But the Raiders a game to 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.439 Austin god Blood Bass and it would I mean it 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.720 was like a game. It was competitive. I mean it 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:49.880 was really hard and they're going at it and uh, 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:54.320 Jerry remembers him. The competition was, I mean fierce. It 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:58.440 was bad. And Al walks onto the field. He walked 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.559 onto the field and said, okay, boys, this this this 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.760 little session's over. Yeah. They were going it was either 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:10.480 like or you know, up the middle run drill. He 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.320 just stopped the drill just stopped it. He said. Jerry 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.640 went up to him and said something like, what are 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.160 you doing? Yeah, and he goes, I'm not losing the 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.360 season in training camp practice. I don't want to get 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.400 anybody hurt. And we're not doing this any longer. Jerry said. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.040 He told him. He goes, but boy, you guys are competitive. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.160 I really need to get my team to compete like that. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.080 And Jerry said, he told him, well, that's why you 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.200 don't stop that drill. Yeah, and he walked out. He's 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:39.120 got a white suit warm up suit. It's ninety five 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:43.160 degrees humidity, and he's got this white warm up suit 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.320 that's kind of silky on the outside and it's thick. Yeah, 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.080 that's that's that's trademark. Look. Yeah, but that's what he 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:54.120 interviewed me in. It wasn't It wasn't. It was Austin, Texas. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.840 Ninety five degrees all white suit man. Yeah, weather this 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.640 week shouldn't be too bad. I know, into a lot 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.400 of weather talk last week and it ended up not 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.240 being that cold out there in New York now and 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.040 you know, another good break. You're going to get to 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.960 the fact if you would have played in Oakland in 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.880 week two, like you did in Denver, you'd had to 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.160 deal with a baseball field. Yeah, and so now you 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:16.880 don't have to deal with the baseball field. You deal 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.320 with the full grass field. And that's that that that's 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.120 a help because that that dirt infield, it takes up 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.640 eighty percent of the field and you're having to play 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.800 out the middle of that is never good. Kicking yeah, 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.120 never good. I mean even you know, Jenikowski for years 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.320 has managed that for them. You know, I know he's 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.400 not kicking now, but but yeah, I mean kicking field 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.199 goals off that dirt is not good. And your players 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.360 you fall on that. I mean, guys get injured out there. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.560 I mean that's where Jason Witten took the hit Rolando 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.800 McLean in that preseason game, right there in the middle 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.719 of the dirt. You know, that's that's not a good situation. 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.959 Watch out for the Rats when you come down walking 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.360 from the locker run all right, I'm not looking forward 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.040 to this. Hey, you need to go ticket your picture. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.440 You and Mickey go by the black hole just a smile. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.280 We'll just have thumbs up. Just the guy was picture, 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:08.480 I mean cowboykier Doom style. No cowboy giar. Yeah. Yeah, Well, 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.800 you know you brought up field goal kicking, Mickey, and 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.400 you know we're talking about Jerry this morning, and he 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:18.480 said that Dan was dealing with a swore hamstring. I 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.240 don't know, I don't know. You answer your own question there. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.760 You don't want to answer that one, Mickey, That's what 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.640 he was saying. He said that Dan Bailey was trying 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.520 to account for a sensitive hamstring on Sunday against the Giants. 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.360 But it's not going to be an issue moving forward. Okay, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.800 there we go, There we go. I mean, I've never 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.560 seen you at a loss for words. I'm not at 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.640 a loss for words. Just you're just saying a misfield goals, 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:49.520 aren't you. I'm saying he kicked the ball fifty three yards, Yeah, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.480 hit the upright, right, the upright from fifty three yards 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.680 with winds rolling. Yeah. And he kicked another one fifty 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.000 yards right down the middle, and then all of a 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.360 sudden the ball just faded to the right and took 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.840 it to the right. Now the missed extra point. Yeah, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.960 that's the one that puzzles everybody. That's the alignment one. Yeah, 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.240 that's the alignment one. Will you kind of go okay, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:13.080 was he overcompensating? You know, it's hard. Dan Bailey is 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.320 a hard guy to say. You know, I mean, if 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.200 if you if you're if you're critical of Dan Bailey, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.840 you're gonna get the barrel of a lot of people's. Well, 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.880 there's arguably no more consistent player on this roster for 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.040 what he's asked to do. There's in terms of preparation, 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.080 He's got everybody's respect. I don't think they're concerned about him. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.760 I think I think largely it was just a tough 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.439 day at the end. Could he be the best at 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.480 his job in terms of what he's asked to do? 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.679 He's right there. But you talk with the Sean Lee's 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.000 of the world and the Tyron Smith's of the world, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:45.800 you know, is he the best at his job on 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.760 this team? Just about? I mean, and I mean it's 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.640 hard to be critical of him. Yeah, it really is. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.120 But man, if if he's having hamstring problems, and you know, 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.600 we'll see, I don't know, there's been a lot of 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:02.679 hamstring issues. Nicky's just just shaking his head field goals 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.080 though this week hopefully won't be an issue. I hope 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.240 that this team is ready to go. But yeah, a 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.160 lot of people are ready to talk about the Cowboys 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:14.920 playoff chances, are you guys, you and Mick playoff? Yeah, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.280 let's go break it down. Break it down. So it's 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.120 at a four percent chance right now as it is mathematically. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.840 Of course, who figures out five thirty eight that are 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.320 at five thirty eight? I don't know the brand. They're 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:35.960 part of ESPN. ESPN's kind of numbers people, they're the political, economics, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.600 science sports. The hardest one of all that of I 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:42.680 believe you're gonna go for the Cowboys to make the playoffs, 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.520 obviously with a wild card spot, because the Eagles have 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.280 already clinched the NFC East. The Cowboys would need to 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.840 one win out right two, have green Bay lose at 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:57.520 least one possible, have Detroit lose at least one very possible. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.000 Have Atlanta los two of its last three. That is 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.400 a little bit more difficult. Now, there are a lot 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.800 of big NFC games that will help this. Atlanta closes 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.880 the season at Tampa at New Orleans in home verse Carolina. Yeah, 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.480 Carolina obviously hosts Green Bay in Seattle, but hosts the 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.079 Rams next week, and then the Packers still play Minnesota 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:22.480 and Detroit. Not impossible. I mean you break that down, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.480 and those three games Atlanta's got, there's a couple tough 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.440 ones on paper on that schedule, But the Cowboys just 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.040 have to take care of business and go ahead. See 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.360 what they're not factoring into this equation that she just 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.840 read is a three way tie, because then head to 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.400 head doesn't matter unless all three teams played each other. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.280 Then it's a conference senate goes to your conference record 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.440 and the Cowboys conference record to get to ten and six, 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.040 other teams end up at ten and six, they're going 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.880 to be better than them, or at least tied, and 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.680 then it's going to go to common opponents. Yeah, and 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.840 then then that's when they can't figure that out. Yeah, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.280 so that's why that four percent is Okay, that's fine, 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.520 But if it's a three way tie, everything changes unless 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.720 everybody's played everybody, right, and then the Cowboys probably are 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.760 in trouble because if they've all played each other, that 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.560 could be Yeah, they there's some yeah, there's some head 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.640 to head tied with. Yeah. So if they're tied with 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.320 say they're tied at ten and six with Green Bay 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.800 in Atlanta, and if green Bay and Atlanta have played. Yeah, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.880 then the Cowboys are out. But just I think it 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.320 played week two. They did play in week two, I 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:36.080 think one. Yeah, No, I thought at Atlanta, Atlanta would 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.680 hold the tide. Atlanta would be two and oh Atlanta 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.800 holds tiebreakers on Dallas and green Bay. Yeah, just looking 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.280 at that, that's a lot of games. Can have games 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.880 that have to be lost yet Yeah, a lot of 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.240 games have to be lost yet, but you have to 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.960 win all your game that's first and format. The number 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.480 one is winning out. What's the percentage of that happening? 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.239 I don't know. They didn't figure that out. No, you 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:05.720 just you just didn't the equation. What scenario do you 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.240 not think can happen? What? What not scenario? What of 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.600 the of the Detroit green Bay in Atlanta? Probably the 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.080 Atlanta losing two of their last three. Okay, they do 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.920 play the Saints. Yeah, you're saying that it was a 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.080 close game obviously last Thursday night. Yeah, and Carolina that 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.720 think Carolina skill. Yeah, I mean that's that's that's your 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.400 hope right there. Well, and I mean be honest, let's 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.840 winning out is not an easy thing either, and that 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.640 would account for a five game win streak if the 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.240 Cowboys were to win their final three, and that's that's 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.680 tough to do, no matter how well you're playing. Now, 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.280 you get Zeke back after this game, and who knows 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.880 what Philly's gonna look like in week seventeen. I mean, 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.040 Great Bay wins is out and uh, I'll take my 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.360 chances that wins playing. To be honest with you, Yeah, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:52.880 and I'm saying that all of a sudden. I mean, 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.080 on paper, you think your chances wouldn't that guys an 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.800 MVP candidate, So I don't. I think he's a difference 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.360 in what you guys are doing the other today. But 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.400 that's first and foremost. You gotta win these last three games. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.600 Green Bay's gotta play at Carolina, Yeah, Minnesota at Detroit. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.760 But they get Rogers back for the Carolina. I don't know, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.040 but he's I don't think he's getting cleared this week. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.280 It sure it didn't sound like it. Well, they can't 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.199 lose that game. I haven't said no to that, no, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.640 but they said the doctors were still checking him. Doctor 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.520 he's inteligible to come off by hour, but it doesn't 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.040 mean doctor mackenzie won't let him play if he didn't 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.920 feel like his to protect himself his shoulders. Good. Yeah, 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:31.199 Seattle has got to play the Rams and the Cowboys. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.760 And if the Cowboys get the ten and six, that 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.280 means they've got to lose one more. So that's six 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:42.560 losses for them. You mentioned Atlanta, and Carolina's got two 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.400 more tough games to play, Green Bay and at Atlanta, 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:50.280 so you know you probably could figure Caroline's gonna make it. Yeah, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.280 I'm gonna say that Carolina would be the fifth season. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.920 I think there's gonna be If the Cowboys went out, 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.000 there will be a three way tie for that last 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.719 wildcard spot. Yeah. And then and then it just depends 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.560 who you're tied with. And then you're gonna get worked 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.840 on the on the conference record, and then the head 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.280 to head on the more so the head to head 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.840 if it's the teams that you've played. If you haven't played, 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:16.720 then the next the next deal is best one lost 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.800 percentage in games played within the conference, and then after 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.440 that it goes to common games. And then the last 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.439 thing the Cowboys need to do is get it to 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.840 the fifth deal and its strength of victory, and their 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.200 strength of victory is not very good as a matter 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.120 of fact, of the ten teams that are seven six 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.680 are better. The Cowboys strength of victory is the worst. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.240 They've only beaten teams that have won thirty games. Green 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.920 Bays won beaten teams that won thirty two, and Detroit 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.680 thirty three. After that, Seattle's forty one, in Atlanta's fifty 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.760 one and Carolina's fifty nine. Yeah, I need to go 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.040 back and look at how many times since two thousand 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.720 and two when they've realigned all the divisions, you've won 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.439 ten games. Are just gonna say that and not gotten 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.760 in because usually you just kind of one time New 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.840 England didn't get in winning eleven and five with Castle, 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.880 right yea in that Castle, yeah, insects and they didn't 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:12.920 get in. Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's kind 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.760 of the thing in everybody's heads. You win ten games, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:16.600 it should get you. It's always been. It's always been 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:20.240 that magical number. But in this case, it might not 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.919 be as pretty good year for the NFC, you know, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.800 if that's gonna if you got to have eleven wins 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:26.400 to get in the playoffs, if this is the time 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.920 you want to get into tournament, in my opinion, because 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.120 it is now the unknown with Carson Wentz, being out 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:36.720 for Philly. This thing's wide open. You're probably you're playing it. 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:38.840 You know you're playing against probably having to play against 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.439 the team you'd probably fear a little bit is the 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.800 Saints because of what with Breeze at quarterback and their 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.120 ability to run the football, They're playing with better defense. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.600 But who do you really fear Minnesota's defense? Do you 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.480 fear their quarterback? I mean, I don't fear their quarterback, 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.040 fear their defense. Fair their defense more than anybody else's. 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.199 Their defense has been more consistent than anybody else's. That 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.080 was a close game for the Cowboys, and you have 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:03.920 to go play indoors. That's all I was gonna say. 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.800 Having to go play at New Orleans or at Minnesota, 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.159 that is no easy task. I mean, that's that's another 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.159