Speaker 1: One cell. November night in nineteen oh seven Saint Petersburg, Russia.
Speaker 1: Most of the lights inside the winter Palace were out.
Speaker 1: It was past midnight, and everybody was in bed. Everybody
Speaker 1: that was, except for the Czarina. Alexandra had been pacing
Speaker 1: the floor outside the room of her three year old
Speaker 1: son Alexey for hours. Inside, her son was desperately ill
Speaker 1: in bed, his leg horrifically swollen from internal bleeding caused
Speaker 1: by hemophilia that no doctor could stop. And inside with him,
Speaker 1: kneeling beside his bed was an unkempt stranger, muttering something
Speaker 1: quietly under his breath, even when on his knee. The
Speaker 1: man's broad frame loomed over the boy's slight and fragile body.
Speaker 1: The man, a healer and mystic of some kind, had
Speaker 1: been recommended to the Czarina by her aunt Olga, But
Speaker 1: when he arrived earlier that evening, she could have been
Speaker 1: forgiven for thinking what on earth she was letting herself
Speaker 1: in for. Exactly with his strange mannerisms and lank hair,
Speaker 1: he promised he would heal Alexe And with all other
Speaker 1: options exhausted, Alexandra had no choice but to let him
Speaker 1: At least try her. Last glimpse of her son had
Speaker 1: been disturbing, the haunting dark patches under his eyes, his
Speaker 1: face twisted in agony, and his legs so large it
Speaker 1: looked as if it might burst. After what felt like
Speaker 1: an eternity, the strange man finally emerged from the nurse
Speaker 1: and quietly closed the door behind him. Alexandra walked towards him,
Speaker 1: heading straight for the room, when the man held up
Speaker 1: his hand to stop her. A little shocked by the gesture,
Speaker 1: she couldn't help but allow it. There was something magnetic
Speaker 1: about his eyes, his gaze, and almost physical weight. It
Speaker 1: was as though he could see directly into her. Leave
Speaker 1: him now, said the man, rest assured, you'll find him
Speaker 1: much improved in the morning. Alexandra reluctantly did what she
Speaker 1: was told. After a fitful sleep, she awoke to find
Speaker 1: the pale light of dawn outside her window. Hurriedly, she
Speaker 1: pulled on her robe and headed towards Alexey's room. She
Speaker 1: opened his door and stopped in her tracks. Alexey was
Speaker 1: sitting up in bed, tied and smiling, his fever broken
Speaker 1: and the swelling of his leg almost completely gone. It
Speaker 1: was a miracle. The stories about the Healer had seemed
Speaker 1: too good to be true, a farmer turned holy man
Speaker 1: who'd suddenly arrived in Saint Petersburg just when they needed
Speaker 1: him most. But Alexey's smiling face was all the proof
Speaker 1: she needed. The man, it seemed, was everything they said
Speaker 1: he was, and its name Grigory Resputin. Of course, Rasputin
Speaker 1: was born sometime in the mid nineteenth century, the son
Speaker 1: of farmers living in the Siberian village of Boklovska, with
Speaker 1: a population of around one hundred. The village was perched
Speaker 1: on the bank of the Tura River, which flows eastward
Speaker 1: from the Ural mountains where Europe and Asia meet. To some,
Speaker 1: Siberia was an inhospitable, wild and lawless place where, for
Speaker 1: hundreds of years, those deemed criminals by the Russian state
Speaker 1: had been frequently exiled. However, like many penniless and landless
Speaker 1: Russians at the time, Rasputin's ancestors went to Siberia willingly
Speaker 1: seeking a brighter future. To them, lawlessness meant freedom. In Siberia,
Speaker 1: they could throw off the shackles of serfdom, in which
Speaker 1: you were forced to work someone else's land for pittance
Speaker 1: and keep their hard earned money for themselves. Resputin's parents
Speaker 1: scraped a living through manual labour, and after many years
Speaker 1: they saved up enough money to afford a small plot
Speaker 1: of land. Buoyed by their newfound financial security, they tried
Speaker 1: to start of family, but several years of heartbreak followed.
Speaker 1: The couple had four children, all of whom died within
Speaker 1: a few days. But in January eighteen sixty nine, their
Speaker 1: luck changed. Arna gave birth to a son and named
Speaker 1: him Grigory. From day one, there seemed something different about
Speaker 1: the boy. He seemed possessed with a clear and indomitable
Speaker 1: will to survive. Rasputin's early life is largely a mystery.
Speaker 1: The little that is known is ambiguous and heavily contested,
Speaker 1: but Rasputin's upbringing was undoubtedly a brutal and isolated one,
Speaker 1: surrounded by desolate landscapes and hardened laborers. He quickly developed
Speaker 1: a tough shell. As soon as he was strong enough,
Speaker 1: he began helping his father out with manual labour around
Speaker 1: the farm. But Rasputin was restless, and with little to
Speaker 1: occupy his young mind, he soon started getting into trouble.
Speaker 1: According to some reports, he was charged with stealing horses
Speaker 1: and often accused of unruly behaviour. As he grew older,
Speaker 1: he became more and more rebellious and began drinking heavily.
Speaker 1: Even his neighbors gave him a wide berth. He drooled
Speaker 1: constantly and always seemed to be covered in dirt. But
Speaker 1: despite his unappealing appearance, there was a mystique building around Resputin.
Speaker 1: There were rumors that the boy had mystical powers, that
Speaker 1: he could heal animals, and that he had even had
Speaker 1: divine visions. Back in six Deen thirty six, in a
Speaker 1: small hut at the back of a churchyard, a widow
Speaker 1: named Maria was fast asleep. The place was a balach
Speaker 1: on the bank of the Yatish River in Siberia. As
Speaker 1: Maria slept deep inside her unconscious mind, three faces appeared
Speaker 1: to her. One she recognized as Theotokos be eased, an
Speaker 1: Orthodox term for the Virgin Mary, and the others were saints.
Speaker 1: Then a voice began to speak, ordering her to tell
Speaker 1: everyone what she'd seen and to request another church be
Speaker 1: built in the churchyard dedicated to the Virgin Mary. But Maria,
Speaker 1: too scared and confused by the dream, kept it to herself.
Speaker 1: It is said she had the same dream four times,
Speaker 1: but still she would not share it. The day, while
Speaker 1: traveling to Tubolsk in Siberia, she suddenly found herself lost
Speaker 1: in fog. From out of the thick swirling cloud, a
Speaker 1: grand looking figure emerged, who she took to be Saint Nicholas.
Speaker 1: Pointing at Maria, he told her again to share her
Speaker 1: dreams with the people, and so finally she did. Two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years later, in the summer of eighteen
Speaker 1: eighty six, a seventeen year old Rasputin left his family's
Speaker 1: village for the first time. He traveled more than one
Speaker 1: hundred miles northeast to the village of a Baralak on
Speaker 1: the banks of the Irtysh River. He went to see
Speaker 1: the Holy Snamensky Monastery, a religious complex born from the
Speaker 1: dreams of a widow named Maria, or so the story goes.
Speaker 1: There he visited the monos famed icon of the Virgin Mary,
Speaker 1: which was believed to have healing powers. What he was
Speaker 1: looking for there exactly is unclear, but during his time
Speaker 1: there he met a young woman from a nearby village,
Speaker 1: Prascovie du Brovina. After a few months of courtship, Just
Speaker 1: after Rasputin's eighteenth birthday, he and Prascovie were married. The
Speaker 1: couple went on to have seven children together, but only
Speaker 1: three of them survived longer than a few days. Having
Speaker 1: returned home, Rasputin continued working on his family's farm, but
Speaker 1: soon grew tired of his mundane existence, Convinced he was
Speaker 1: destined for much greater things. However, unable to see how
Speaker 1: he might ever achieve this, he took to drinking more heavily.
Speaker 1: Over time, his mental health deteriorated. He began to suffer
Speaker 1: from insomnia and an unwelcome reoccurrence of bed wetting, which
Speaker 1: had plagued him since his childhood. Until one night everything changed.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard mc lane Smith.
Speaker 1: One summer night in eighteen ninety seven on his farm,
Speaker 1: Rasputin awoke with a start. He tossed and turned frustrated
Speaker 1: at the prospect of another sleepless night, when he suddenly
Speaker 1: became aware of a presence in the room. Turning his head,
Speaker 1: he was startled to see some one standing next to
Speaker 1: his bed with their back to him. Rasputin looked on
Speaker 1: aghast as the figure apparently then turned round and revealed
Speaker 1: itself to be Saint Simeon, the Russian Orthodox patron saint
Speaker 1: of the Ural region where Resputin lived. In the Orthodox faith,
Speaker 1: Saint Simeon is regarded as a healer of both the
Speaker 1: body and soul, a miracle worker who alcoholics often pray
Speaker 1: to as they try to get sober. Then, as Resputin
Speaker 1: would later have it, Saint Simeon began to talk. Rasputin
Speaker 1: claimed to have listened in wonder as the figure told
Speaker 1: him that he could cure all of his ailments and
Speaker 1: exalt him to a higher plane of existence. All he
Speaker 1: had to do in return was give up everything he
Speaker 1: had and devote himself entirely to God. From that day forward,
Speaker 1: Rasputin stopped drinking and smoking, and refused to even eat meat.
Speaker 1: A second vision apparently followed soon after, this time of
Speaker 1: the Virgin Mary telling him to go wander and cleanse
Speaker 1: the people of their sins. There was little Rasputen's wife, Prascovia,
Speaker 1: could do, pregnant with another of their children, when he
Speaker 1: told her he had to leave and that he didn't
Speaker 1: know when he'd be back, And so, at the age
Speaker 1: of twenty eight, Rasputin left his village and his family behind.
Speaker 1: He set out in the early morning, traversing his way
Speaker 1: through the rugged and sparse landscape surrounding his hometown. His
Speaker 1: only plan to head west toward the ural mountains, which
Speaker 1: lined the horizon before him and seemed to be beckoning
Speaker 1: him closer and closer. His final destination was Verkatordia, the
Speaker 1: home of Saint Simeon, more than three hundred miles away.
Speaker 1: There he visited the Saint Nicholas monastery and seemingly continued
Speaker 1: his religious awakening. But it was that day's long walk
Speaker 1: that really set the tone for Rasputin's next chapter. On
Speaker 1: the move, he felt happier than he ever had in
Speaker 1: his entire life. Suddenly it all seemed so clear the
Speaker 1: reason he wasn't happy at home. He wasn't a laborer
Speaker 1: destined to be chained to the land. He was a wanderer. Now,
Speaker 1: at twenty eight years old, he felt his life was
Speaker 1: finally beginning. Rasputin spent months at the monastery in Verkatoria,
Speaker 1: where he became more and more convinced of his own
Speaker 1: powers of healing. That was his true destiny. He believed
Speaker 1: there would be no returning to life as a farm worker. Now,
Speaker 1: he spent the next decade as a traveling pilgrim, moving
Speaker 1: around the country, spending time in different towns and villages.
Speaker 1: It wasn't an easy existence. He regularly walked up to
Speaker 1: thirty miles a day and often went for days without
Speaker 1: food or water, but it was worth it to him,
Speaker 1: not only because he felt free, but also because, for
Speaker 1: the first time, he felt powerful. Each time he arrived
Speaker 1: at a new village, he introduced himself as a holy man,
Speaker 1: and despite the fact that Resputant had never been ordained
Speaker 1: or trained as a priest, people bought it. More than
Speaker 1: that they flocked to him. His confidence in his own
Speaker 1: abilities was dazzling, as was his deep and fluent knowledge
Speaker 1: of scripture, his story telling ability, and its clear commitment
Speaker 1: to life as a holy wanderer. But Rasputin wasn't content
Speaker 1: to simply travel the country. He wanted to see more
Speaker 1: of the world. He traveled to Mount Athos in Greece,
Speaker 1: a holy site that houses more than a dozen monasteries
Speaker 1: and monastic settlements. On his travels, he relied on the
Speaker 1: kindness of strangers, often taking shelter in their homes overnight.
Speaker 1: Through this, he came into contact with all kinds of people,
Speaker 1: from fellow farm workers to priests, nuns, soldiers, and even nobility.
Speaker 1: Despite his lack of formal education, these experiences gave Resputin
Speaker 1: a sophisticated understanding of Russian society and of human psychology.
Speaker 1: He seemed to know everything about someone before they did met,
Speaker 1: not least of all their vulnerabilities, and swiftly earned their trust.
Speaker 1: On occasion, Rasputin returned home to his family. His children,
Speaker 1: Maria and Dmitri, were enthralled by his stories of his
Speaker 1: travels and begged their father to take them with him
Speaker 1: next time, but he never did. Rasputin's life as a
Speaker 1: wanderer was far from child friendly, and not just because
Speaker 1: of all the physical challenges involved. Many of Rasputin's most
Speaker 1: devoted acolytes were said to be young women, whom he
Speaker 1: paid special attention to. He took meetings alone with his
Speaker 1: female followers, often at public bathhouses, during which some decidedly
Speaker 1: unholy acts took place. Before long, Rasputin's reputation began to
Speaker 1: precede him, upsetting the more established local priests and other
Speaker 1: men of God, who accused him of being a charlatan,
Speaker 1: and soon the rumours began to fly too. Some claimed
Speaker 1: that Rasputin forced his female followers to ceremonially wash him,
Speaker 1: and that he was teaching his acolytes mysterious, possibly blasphemous rituals.
Speaker 1: But in spite of it all, Rasputin's fame only seemed
Speaker 1: to grow. Aside from his charm, his worldly air, and
Speaker 1: his unnerving ability to get inside people's heads, Rasputin's fame
Speaker 1: was also built on his seemingly miraculous healing powers. He
Speaker 1: began describing himself as a healer early in his pilgrimage years.
Speaker 1: The specifics of his so called miraculous healing abilities are murky. Certainly,
Speaker 1: there are no reliable witness accounts describing how they manifested exactly.
Speaker 1: But regardless of the lack of evidence, many came to
Speaker 1: consider Resputine a faith healer, a self declared holy person
Speaker 1: able to cure someone's disease simply by laying hands on them,
Speaker 1: acting as a physical conduit for divine intervention. The notion
Speaker 1: of faith healing dates back millennia and remains popular to
Speaker 1: this day. According to a twenty sixteen survey, almost ninety
Speaker 1: percent of Americans have turned to healing prayer at some
Speaker 1: point in their lives. Almost a quarter have practiced a
Speaker 1: traditional laying on of hands as it is caught in
Speaker 1: a bid to cure illness. For years, Rasputin traveled from
Speaker 1: place to place, bestowing his blessings and famous health hands
Speaker 1: on whoever wanted them. Many were impoverished, sometimes hundreds of
Speaker 1: miles from medical care. Having such a renowned, supposedly wise
Speaker 1: holy man paying attention to them would have, no doubt
Speaker 1: felt extraordinary. But Rasputin, ever restless, had his sight set
Speaker 1: on a new life. By nineteen hundred, then in its thirties,
Speaker 1: he'd spent the better part of a decade as a
Speaker 1: traveling pilgrim, and he was tired. The adulation and gratitude
Speaker 1: he received from acolytes was no longer enough to make
Speaker 1: up for the physical demands of his lifestyle. Walking miles
Speaker 1: and miles a day was not going to be an
Speaker 1: option for much longer, And though he'd never let his
Speaker 1: followers know it, Rasputin considered himself far superior to most
Speaker 1: of the people he encountered. He didn't want to spend
Speaker 1: the rest of his life skulking around tiny villages, giving
Speaker 1: out charity to the poor and needy, so that year
Speaker 1: he set out for one place he'd never been before,
Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg, the capital of the Russian Empire in the
Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds. The city of Saint Petersburg was a
Speaker 1: bustling hub of activity when it was founded by Czar Peter.
Speaker 1: The first two decades earlier, it was dubbed Russia's window
Speaker 1: on Europe thanks to its direct access to the Baltic
Speaker 1: Sea and the Atlantic Ocean. Between its stunning neoclassical architecture
Speaker 1: and its many interlaced rivers and canals, Saint Petersburg was
Speaker 1: the kind of place that made life feel beautiful. Few
Speaker 1: people in and that magnificent metropolis had any sense that
Speaker 1: these were the last days of the Russian Empire. Soon
Speaker 1: after arriving in the city, Rasputin quickly began to ingratiate
Speaker 1: himself in aristocratic social circles. At the time, interest in
Speaker 1: spirituality and the dark arts was hugely popular. Seances, hypnotism,
Speaker 1: and chiromancy, the practice of reading someone's future through the
Speaker 1: lines on their palm, were all gleefully and openly practiced
Speaker 1: by the wealthier elements of society. This belief in the
Speaker 1: mystical had infiltrated the very highest echelons of Russian society.
Speaker 1: It had even reached the House of Romanov. It was
Speaker 1: a heady, febrile environment, custom made for a man like resputins,
Speaker 1: strange and enigmatic death charms. In nineteen oh four, Czar
Speaker 1: Nicholas the Second and his wife, the Czarina Alexandra, received
Speaker 1: devastating news their infant son, Alexey, the heir to the
Speaker 1: Russian throne, was diagnosed with hemophilia. It's a rare condition
Speaker 1: where a person's blood doesn't clot as it should. It
Speaker 1: can cause uncontrolled bleeding, both externally and internally. Today it's
Speaker 1: broadly treatable through blood infusions, but in the early twentieth
Speaker 1: century it was far more dangerous. In the year following
Speaker 1: Alexey's diagnosis, the royal couple had become increasingly desperate and
Speaker 1: increasingly disillusioned with the many doctors they'd sought advice from.
Speaker 1: They were beginning to fear their son was beyond help,
Speaker 1: at least beyond and traditional help. Even before their son's diagnosis,
Speaker 1: the Czar and Czarina had a history of putting their
Speaker 1: faith in the other worldly. Several years earlier, they befriended
Speaker 1: a self styled French mystic named Philippe Nazier Vachot, who
Speaker 1: claimed to be able to predict the future. Nazier Vachot
Speaker 1: had predicted that Alexandra would finally give birth to a
Speaker 1: male heir after several disappointments. When Alexey Julie arrived, they
Speaker 1: credited Nazier Vachow with helping their wishes to come true.
Speaker 1: But now the man was gone and the couple were
Speaker 1: in search of a new miracle worker. Soon, stories of
Speaker 1: a strange new arrival on the Saint Petersburg social scene
Speaker 1: wormed their way to the Winter Palace. Both couldn't help
Speaker 1: but be intrigued by the story an impoverished farmer from
Speaker 1: a deprived corner of Siberia who had become a nationally
Speaker 1: renowned man of God, seemingly with no help from anyone
Speaker 1: save for the Lord himself. And when they learned of
Speaker 1: Rasputin's supposed healing powers, they summoned him immediately to the palace.
Speaker 1: When he stepped into the Tsar's chambers to meet with
Speaker 1: the Tsar and Czarina, it was hard not to be
Speaker 1: impressed by him. He was certainly hard to ignore. He
Speaker 1: was six foot three with broad shoulders. His hands were
Speaker 1: unusually large, too, seemingly built for a lifetime of farm work.
Speaker 1: And yet there he was not a farmer, but a
Speaker 1: man whom many believed channeled nothing but divinity through them.
Speaker 1: Buttin had an uncannyability to read people, to see the
Speaker 1: truth of them, and tell them what they wanted to hear.
Speaker 1: And there in that first meeting he realized that Alexey's
Speaker 1: illness was only one part of the Czar's trouble. In
Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundreds, political unrest was mounting across all
Speaker 1: of Russia. In January nineteen oh five, a peaceful demonstration
Speaker 1: ended in bloodshed when hundreds of protesters were shot dead
Speaker 1: by armed police. It became known as the Bloody Sunday massacre.
Speaker 1: It sparked a revolution among citizens across the country, many
Speaker 1: of whom had already been questioning the monarchy's authoritarian rule.
Speaker 1: That year, much of Russia ground to a halt amid
Speaker 1: national strikes, military mutinies, and widespread protests. By the autumn,
Speaker 1: Czar Nicholas was compelled to take action. In a concession
Speaker 1: to the masses, he signed a document called the October Manifesto,
Speaker 1: which radically transformed Russian society. The Manifesto guaranteed basic civil liberties,
Speaker 1: including freedom of speech, and created a legislative body whose
Speaker 1: members would be elected by the people. Just overnight, Russia
Speaker 1: went from an autocracy to a constitutional monarchy. Although it
Speaker 1: had the desired effect quelling the flames of revolution, Nicholas
Speaker 1: was deeply uncomfortable with the step he'd been forced to take.
Speaker 1: Upholding another generation of autocratic power was to him his
Speaker 1: sole duty, and he'd failed. It was shortly after enacting
Speaker 1: the Manifesto that Nicholas was introduced to Rasputin. Resputin was,
Speaker 1: of course well aware of the political climate, and perhaps
Speaker 1: also sensed that the Tsar's fears about his heir's health
Speaker 1: were tied into something bigger, a looming sense of existential
Speaker 1: dread about the future of the monarchy. Either way, by
Speaker 1: the end of that first meeting, Resputin had convinced Czar
Speaker 1: Nicholas and Czarina Alexandra that he could heal Alexey, But
Speaker 1: he also wove in reassurance of a different kind. He
Speaker 1: told the Czar that he was the rightful leader of
Speaker 1: Russia and that he should demand obedience and loyalty from
Speaker 1: its subjects. It was exactly what Nicholas and Alexandra wanted
Speaker 1: to hear. After years of mounting opposition and hatred from
Speaker 1: the public. Here was a man of the people, a
Speaker 1: lowly peasant, no less as they saw him, at least
Speaker 1: by birth, reaffirming their authority. Rasputin's impressive reputation, they agreed
Speaker 1: later that night, seemed well earned. Sometime after his first
Speaker 1: introduction to the Czar and Czarina, Rasputin was summoned back
Speaker 1: to the Winter Palace to attend to Alexey, who'd fallen
Speaker 1: ill again. The boy, now three years old, had fallen
Speaker 1: in the palace gardens and hurt his leg. For most
Speaker 1: other children, this would be a scrape, but for alexe
Speaker 1: it set off an uncontrollable internal bleeding. His legs swelled up,
Speaker 1: causing him to writhe an agonizing pain. Before he'd even
Speaker 1: set foot in the boy's room, Resputin commanded that Alexey's
Speaker 1: doctors cease all medical treatment. He told the Czar and
Speaker 1: Czarina that his abilities required a blank slate, and that
Speaker 1: any interference from secular medicine could interfere with the process
Speaker 1: of divine intervention. By then, the couple had lost all
Speaker 1: confidence in doctors anyway, so they didn't take much convincing.
Speaker 1: Their medical team was summarily dismissed. Rasputin spent several hours
Speaker 1: with Alexey that night, during which he prayed at the
Speaker 1: foot of his bed. Finally, he emerged from Alexey's room
Speaker 1: in the early hours of the morning to find Alexandra
Speaker 1: waiting anxiously outside. He told her to go to bed
Speaker 1: and promised that Alexey would be better in the morning.
Speaker 1: Sure Enough, the next morning, Alexandra walked into Alexey's room
Speaker 1: find him sitting up in bed, his gaze clear and
Speaker 1: the swelling in his leg almost entirely gone. She could
Speaker 1: barely believe her eyes. Even when medical treatments had worked
Speaker 1: in the past, it had taken days, sometimes weeks, for
Speaker 1: Alexey to be well enough to get out of bed.
Speaker 1: Rasputin had seemingly achieved what no doctor ever had. He
Speaker 1: had healed the air to the Russian throne in a
Speaker 1: single night. Rasputin had solidified his position in the csars
Speaker 1: in a circle, effectively making him one of the most
Speaker 1: influential men in Russia. It was the beginning of a
Speaker 1: new life for him and for the royal couple who
Speaker 1: felt the weight of years of anxiety lifted from them.
Speaker 1: Yet unknown to them then it was also the beginning
Speaker 1: of the end. This triumphant, miraculous evening would be the
Speaker 1: ruin of them all. This episode was written by Emma
Speaker 1: Dibden and Richard McLain Smith. You've been listening to Unexplained
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