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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, or should I say ho ho ho?

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Speaker 1: It's me Matt Rogers And in the words of another

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Speaker 1: Christmas icon, it's time. I'm back with my new nationwide tour,

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Speaker 1: Matt Rogers Christmas in December. Yes, it's time to remember

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Speaker 1: when Christmas is. I'm hitting the road all of December

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Speaker 1: with Henrykoperski and the whole band performing my album Have

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Speaker 1: You Heard Of Christmas, along with a bunch of other

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Speaker 1: little surprises. So if you're in La San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: d C. New York City, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, or yes, Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 2: I want to see your gorgeous ass.

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Speaker 1: Go to Matt rogersofficial dot com or head to my

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Matt Rogers though and hit the link in

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Speaker 1: my bio. Until then, stream the album, get your look

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Speaker 1: together and get ready to deck the damn halls at

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Speaker 1: a venue near you Christmas in December. You in my

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Speaker 1: heart XO XO, Santa Boy, Look.

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Speaker 2: Marire, Oh, I see you, my ow and look over

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Speaker 2: there is that the culture? Yes? Wow, lost culture.

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Speaker 1: Ding dong, lost culture calling.

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Speaker 2: What do you think is in the air right now?

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Speaker 3: Fall fall?

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Speaker 2: Spooky season for sure?

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Speaker 1: I haven't been spooked at all. Can I say that's

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Speaker 1: not been a part of it.

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Speaker 2: I think we're about to get spooked though.

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Speaker 4: We're about to go to New Orleans for our friend

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Speaker 4: Joel Kim Booster's bachelor party.

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Speaker 1: Did you know it's New Orleans gay Halloween weekend.

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Speaker 4: I think someone new, someone in the group new, Otherwise

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Speaker 4: they wouldn't have picked New Orleans for that week. I

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Speaker 4: think this is all very intentional, not certainly, not on

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Speaker 4: our parts. We're just along for the ride.

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Speaker 2: It's targeted. It's targeted.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing about gay weekend vacation. It just

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Speaker 1: so happens to I faced this in Peedetown two because

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Speaker 1: it's like the thing about New Orleans and also Pete

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Speaker 1: Town is well, maybe more New Orleans than town, but

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Speaker 1: they talk about the food in New Orleans, and so

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Speaker 1: I'm really gonna want to center your gumbo, your begnets, begnets,

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Speaker 1: your and more.

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Speaker 2: And more, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Food. And then at the same time it's like a

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Speaker 1: gay Halloween weekend, you know what I'm saying. It's like

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Speaker 1: you don't want to necessarily be full of the bula

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Speaker 1: bass when you're trying to shake that ace.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want that's really good?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 2: I want a bullet to get me in the bass?

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Speaker 2: You want to you want in your base?

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Speaker 1: Well, bullet in bullet in my base is Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Ratitui would love this song. But I have to say

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't because that's not his name.

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Speaker 2: That's not which do you remember finding that out? Holy fuck?

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Speaker 4: That was when you knew that that movie was for adults.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't it was to.

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Speaker 2: Go firing on other cylinders. Well that's that.

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Speaker 4: The title is a peasant vegetable dish and not the

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Speaker 4: cute little mouse. Yeah, like that was when they Pixar

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Speaker 4: went this one. This one's a thinker and yeah, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna trick the kids into the theater

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Speaker 4: with these little mice and the posters him, you know,

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Speaker 4: surrounded by knives against the door. I don't remember that

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Speaker 4: ever happening in the movie. Then it becomes a whole

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Speaker 4: treatise on art and the joy of cooking and romance

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Speaker 4: in Paris. So right, A tu wee doesn't have any

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you something I've never seen it?

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Speaker 2: Are you serious.

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Speaker 1: I don't really What can I come out of?

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Speaker 2: Are you serious?

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Speaker 1: I don't really watch the Disney movies. I don't watch

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Speaker 1: the Disney movies. I'm serious.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: There not a part of my culture that I can.

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Speaker 1: I don't do that. I go I I I don't

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Speaker 2: Are you no? One not like? I don't?

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Speaker 1: I don't watch the movies. I like to go on

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Speaker 1: the rides. It's a cost conception. What was the last

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Speaker 1: you saw? We'll get this in today's episode of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: We have Demi Lovato on famous Disney star, very very

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Speaker 1: remy from Ratitude narrative, used to be a Disney star

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Speaker 1: this episode which you're about to hear, this is really

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Speaker 4: This gay adult I should and we should just also

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Speaker 4: clear up bulla basse is a French stew and it's

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Speaker 1: Oh no, reamed by the cooks. I don't hate that side.

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Speaker 2: This weekend. You fucking fags a chef to fuck me?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I would love a chef to fuck me. You know,

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Speaker 1: me think about that while I am I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: Demi Lavado mentions the movie Soul. In this episode of

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Speaker 1: the Disney movie Soul that maybe was the last like

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Speaker 2: That came out during COVID, so you left the room,

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Speaker 1: I remember I watched it in my La apartment and

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Speaker 1: I was just like, ey, this one wasn't really in

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Speaker 2: I kind of need, like I kind of need either.

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Speaker 1: One of two things, like a lot of music or

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Speaker 2: I've talked about this on the show.

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Speaker 1: If you don't give me either one of those things,

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Speaker 1: it's like not the Disney movie for me, but it

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Speaker 4: really And I think this is a moment we're not

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Speaker 4: not being like paid to say this, Like, if we

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Speaker 2: I genuinely believe that.

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Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. They try to pay

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Speaker 2: Actually tea besides the ada, besides the ads.

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Speaker 1: Besides the ads that we're paid to stay by the

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Speaker 4: They just try to tell us, and sometimes they do

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Speaker 4: and it works in the ads. But first of all,

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Speaker 4: some quote unquote agency in this fucking country of ours

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Speaker 4: is not something that we ever put on the show.

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Speaker 4: And we actually do have a connection every week and

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Speaker 1: Brass, Oh take this off. Oh yeah, if you're bringing

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Speaker 1: out like an ad for the air force on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Please let us know.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, we will. We will fly right in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to say something, but what do you

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Speaker 4: want to say? Nothing, Well, I'll tell you later. Oh see,

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Speaker 4: see what we're not being authentic?

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Speaker 1: No, no, this is between this is between, this is

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Speaker 1: between me and Mint. Oh yeah, we're having a big

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Speaker 1: Demi era, that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm saying, if we do right by this album,

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Speaker 4: it's not that deep out this Friday, October twenty fourth,

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Speaker 4: you will really really be happy. I think I think

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Speaker 4: we will be dancing during spooky season. There will be

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Speaker 4: something to really bring the community together on Halloween, no

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Speaker 1: Listen to me, my lips, your lips take me to

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Speaker 1: the core. Risks, I kiss for fun, It's fun to kiss.

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Speaker 4: Lyrics, lyrics, music and lyrics, A movie starring h Grant

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Speaker 4: and Drew Barrymore. Also, the things that this album excels

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Speaker 4: at music and lyrics, I really think you'll enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's actually so crucial that an album will excel

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Speaker 1: at both music and lyrics. Actually, really culture number nine,

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Speaker 4: I would say this one does it in spades. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: any other updates. I think we are really loving this.

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Speaker 4: We've done this a couple of times in the past

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Speaker 2: And I really dig this. I really like this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I basically like, I was really excited today because

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. They sell zip up Massoni

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Speaker 2: You look like you're about to.

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Speaker 1: I do feel a little bit like what Jeremy strong

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Speaker 1: Like would wear outside of the boardroom in that show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, style icon by the way, he looked amazing

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Speaker 1: At By the Way, so did you. But I didn't

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Speaker 1: Nicki Cambell is constantly saying I'm in the wrong color,

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Speaker 1: it's subjective.

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Speaker 4: Nicky Campbell is really helping me get back to that

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Speaker 4: place that I took for granted during the Fashion Police era,

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Speaker 4: where I'm like, I disagree with this opinion and that's okay,

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Speaker 4: and this actually applies to every kind of thing in life.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully I'm actually gonna bravely say what I thought was

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Speaker 4: They apparently allegedly staged a burglary, reported these goods stolen.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely blame Gazelle and Robin.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Ashley Darby remains one of the dumbest people to ever.

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Speaker 1: You posted that story of her being like, so I'm

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Speaker 2: That's all. That's all I'm gonna say. I wrote for Wendy.

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Speaker 2: If that's what they were doing.

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Speaker 4: Amex doesn't play. Insurance doesn't play no, Like insurance will

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Speaker 1: then by the same token for her to now come

442
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Speaker 1: in and be like, hey, all that stuff I said

443
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: that was real. I really did sinkle out of my

444
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: stuff and it failed.

445
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, is like making her, it's, you know, kind of yeah,

446
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 4: it gives her this really new thing to play with.

447
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 4: I don't think we've seen a lot of this in

448
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 4: the Housewives franchises. I think she's honestly about failure. I know,

449
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: it's actually it's it's very refreshing. We've always rooted for Whitney.

450
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 4: Here love Whitney. We love Whitney and especially loved her

451
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 4: conversation with Brittany the Haunting.

452
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Speaker 1: But can we say we love Brittany, But Brittany like

453
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: we are all Whitney in that moment, shaking you being

454
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: like you absolutely cannot date this man any further. If

455
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: your daughter is saying it's a hard line in the sand,

456
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: like you you cannot, and then the next step, but

457
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: she's like, we are back together, Brittany.

458
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 4: Brittany, if you're listening, we say this with just love.

459
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 4: I know you've been probably getting so much, you know,

460
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 4: caustic feedback from just the public, and that is that

461
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 4: is an awful sensation, and that is completely disorienting. Telling

462
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 4: you how to be a parent, we are we are

463
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 4: not necessarily here to do that, but we were here

464
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 4: to tell you in a situation like this, where one

465
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 4: thing is deleterious of the other. It seems like dating

466
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: Jared is really harming in a potentially permanent way your

467
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 4: relationship with your children, that's all. And it's going to

468
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: be documented, yes, and that's that's even more painful.

469
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Speaker 1: Well, but you know what, though, she got to show

470
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: at fifty four below she's going the Luanne route.

471
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: I love it, but been genuinely so talented. I'm not

472
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: to say that Luyanne isn't.

473
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Luyne. She's a star. I've seen

474
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Speaker 1: that show two times. I don't know if i'd call

475
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: her a vocal talent, but I would call her a star.

476
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 4: Oh an icon And I took down my post where

477
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: it was Bravo MG posting about how Luyne was cast

478
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 4: as the cowardly Lion. I took it down because it

479
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 4: was taking jabs at her quote unquote male voice. And

480
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I don't want to do that. Well,

481
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean like like I don't want

482
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Speaker 4: I don't want like to like public. I don't know

483
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: like however she feels about that. I don't want that

484
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 4: to be You're.

485
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: Being sensitive about a comment about someone's gender. Vocal tamboer

486
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: that could that. Yeah, I mean that you're being sensitive.

487
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: But it's the tambo.

488
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Speaker 1: Luyne has a man's voice, is a well trod I know, and.

489
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Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't

490
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: want to keep grooming a well trod path. So I anyway,

491
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: but we're just saying we love Luwayne as well.

492
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Speaker 2: We're just saying.

493
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Speaker 1: One thing I'm saying about you is you're always grooming

494
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: the path of the untrodden.

495
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm grooming a new path.

496
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Speaker 1: You're always grooming. That's what I always say about But

497
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: when he is always grooming, I see him out your rooming.

498
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, well.

499
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Speaker 1: I've been getting so I remember when I told you about.

500
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: That allergy around my eye? Yes, how is it expelling?

501
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: You know what it is.

502
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: It's just that I can't use any like makeup or

503
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: anything that's like scented. I guess I have to use

504
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: all clean products. I don't know when this happened. Late

505
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: right now, I kind of like I have to say, like,

506
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: this is my office. So I'm in my New York apartment,

507
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: and I'm really happy when I put my desk because

508
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: the light is really I'm so satisfied to have good

509
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: zoom lighting in here.

510
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: That's great.

511
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: And also like, we used clean makeup this week for

512
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: some stuff that we had to do, and I'm like, okay,

513
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: thank god, I'm not breaking out around my eyes because

514
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: that is frustrating when something with your skin rears is

515
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: stufthly head, it's I don't think so honey coated.

516
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: Also, take the fragrances out of make a period right?

517
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: Why I never got that unless if hey, if you,

518
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: if you love your fragrance scented makeup, let us know why.

519
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 4: We would love to get some perspective on this.

520
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: What if I just started wearing white diamonds by Elizabeth Taylor?

521
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: Here we go, talk about Elizabeth Taylor and your.

522
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: New such light Diamonds and Lovers of Forever? Can I

523
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: tell you why? Okay, So just to briefly touch on this.

524
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: If you don't like the song Elizabeth Taylor, two things,

525
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: it's fine. I'm not gonna get intense about it. One,

526
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't want you around like my kids, Like

527
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust you, like I think you should go.

528
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: I think you're you're I wouldn't. I don't trust you.

529
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: And two you're not thinking of it as a Matt

530
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: Rogers character.

531
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Speaker 2: Right.

532
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh, if you think of it as a me character,

533
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna think Elizabeth Taylor is one of the great

534
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: songs of the American of the Global songbook. And if

535
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Speaker 1: we had to make the list again, it would be

536
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Speaker 1: in the top fifty. People don't understand her mind on

537
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor. They're not understanding her mind.

538
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Speaker 4: Would you say that the way into the album in

539
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 4: general is to think of her on this album as

540
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: a character.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it could help, it could help.

542
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: No, But here's the thing, like people are I think

543
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: now the dust has kind of settled about it and

544
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: people can start to talk about this album like human Beings,

545
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: Fate of Ophelia, Elizabeth Taylor, Opallite, father Figure, the first

546
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: four tracks, that is unreal, Like, that's really good. And

547
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: then I have the same complaints about eldest daughter that

548
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: everyone else does. But then we're back with Ruin the Friendship,

549
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: and Ruin the Friendship is classic Tailor, classic tailor.

550
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: I you know, I had a really crazy delayed moment

551
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 4: with both Midnights and now in the last couple of days.

552
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: Ever more, you were always right. I should never I

553
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: should never doubt you. We might not be synchronized in

554
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 4: our opinions. But I will I will maybe meet you

555
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: at some we will intersect in them at some point.

556
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: Who's to say that I won't move past it just

557
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 4: to hear you.

558
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: Guys.

559
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: Finally got on board with like a song like Maroon,

560
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: which is so good.

561
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: I never said Maroon.

562
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: What song were you not feeling? For a Minute's Lavender Hayes.

563
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, for some reason, I never I wrote off Lavender

564
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 4: has is like not one of her best openers on

565
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 4: an album.

566
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: It's a Remy thing. It's you just had to grow up?

567
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: Fuck you wait, what what does remy mean?

568
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: It's a Remi radite. I know I used to be

569
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: young and for kids. Then one day he fucked.

570
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: I don't understand mim and Midnight.

571
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: No, the production of Lavender Hayes goes so hard anyway,

572
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: it's we're having Jake Shane on the show next week,

573
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: and we did a full episode with Jake way before

574
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: Life of a show Girl had come out, so we

575
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: don't even talk about it.

576
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: It's a wonderful time capsule. That's a fantastic episode. This

577
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: is a fantastic episode.

578
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: Anything else before we throw it over to our conversation

579
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: with Demmy, Well, I love I did want to say,

580
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: speaking of the pop girls, I loved you grinding on

581
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 2: Sabrina and I did just want to ask you, like

582
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: for any bts when you when you and Sabrina were

583
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: sort of rubbing your private parts on each other all day.

584
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: For comedy, Like, how did you break through the awkwardness

585
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: of that? Was it ever upward? Are you guys texting

586
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: a lot?

587
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: Now?

588
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Would are we going to see a bowen straight and

589
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: act itself? In real life? You and Sabrina Carpenter would

590
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: be an incredible power couple. I actually think that thank you.

591
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: Really?

592
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: What makes you say you're like the Barry Keyogin of

593
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: gay guys?

594
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: You're not?

595
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: You kind of are actually you kind of are interesting.

596
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: Like I started off doing little smaller supporting roles and

597
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: then and then I and then I really found like.

598
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Adam Gala getting a ViBe's Oscar, congratulations on your vibees Oscar.

599
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: You know what was very very keyogan of me was

600
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 4: was was mister LORDI and I reconnecting on the flight

601
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: back to New York.

602
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: That's really good. And so that's that's very very no.

603
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: And and now I'm running I was running around my house,

604
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: my apartment today fully naked, and I did feel like

605
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: Barry at the end of Burn, a movie that I

606
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 4: might someday also come to really enjoy.

607
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: I think Saul Burn, like, looking back, I probably was

608
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: too hard on that. It's it's for it's fun. I

609
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: can't wait for weathering heights.

610
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: I can't wait for weathering heights. I want to say that. Yes,

611
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: even with Life of a show Girl, even with a

612
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: lot of recent releases or not so recent releases, like

613
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Speaker 4: I think there's a latent period of like wait for this,

614
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 4: to wait for this to like congeal in the culture before,

615
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 4: Like I don't come out with like a rush to

616
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Speaker 4: take anymore.

617
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: No, it's just stupid because because honestly, like everyone's so

618
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: crazy when it first comes out. Like I also, just

619
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: like I said, like I've said a million times, it's

620
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: just not why music exists so that people can raise

621
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: to have a take on it. Even like the Swiftologist,

622
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: who I've been watching a lot of, like because that's

623
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: where I'm very smart. He even waits like he does

624
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: his like his like immediate reaction and then he.

625
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Speaker 2: It was he waited two weeks for his Showgirl.

626
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and his Ultimately, his opinion is that Life of

627
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: a Showgirl is mid, and I even think that might change.

628
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's mid. I think there's I think

629
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: there's one song. I don't like canceled at all. I

630
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: just I don't like I don't like content about cancelation.

631
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't like like. I just don't like any I

632
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: don't like talking about I don't like the word canceled like.

633
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's it's it's not forward thinking.

634
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: I think Taylor might be aware that this is her

635
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: album that she will leave behind as the one where

636
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: it was like that was her out our most chronically

637
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: online because the rest of the world was too Like

638
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: there's something that I think is true about her earlier

639
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: work that is more timeless because it is not it

640
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: was not as online because we weren't as a culture.

641
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: I think because the culture is bad, we have bad

642
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 4: reactions to work that is about the current moment, and

643
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: therefore people have really strong reactions to it. And I

644
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: think this album, I think this makes sense in about

645
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: a year which I think all of the like every

646
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: every like sticky piece of work does like at some

647
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 4: you know, after a certain lead period, where are you

648
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: going to say.

649
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: I think it does make sense already, because I actually

650
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: think like I think whether or not like you like

651
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: the explanations, because she has given a couple which you

652
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: could argue like should you be able, should you have

653
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: to explain things people to get them? But like the

654
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: first verse of Eldest Daughter, she was like, no, I'm

655
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: intentionally speaking in a way that people speak online because

656
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: it is like me trying to fit into something that

657
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I can't. And then when the song progresses, by the

658
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: time you get to the bridge, which is like, actually

659
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: a really beautiful bridge, it's actually a really good track

660
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: five bridge when you stack them all up together, that's

661
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: actually me speaking the way I really speak, because I'm

662
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: not trying too hard. So basically she's come out and said,

663
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: if the first verse sounds like it's trying too hard,

664
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: that's by design. Now people can have their opinions on

665
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: that whatever, But I do I think it speaks to

666
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: a larger thing about the album, which is she didn't

667
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: write a million songs. She probably wrote like these twelve,

668
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: maybe a few more, And she said, you know what,

669
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking go for it, and I'm gonna be

670
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: messy and I'm gonna have people talking, and certainly there

671
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: are some things in here that like relate to her peers, Charlie,

672
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: you could argue Olivia with.

673
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: The father Figure of it all.

674
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Speaker 1: I actually think in the in the movie that she

675
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, had in theaters, like she pretty directly not

676
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: she doesn't outrite confirm that it's about Olivia, but she.

677
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: Was on both sides of this dynamic.

678
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: She says she's been on both sides of the dynamic.

679
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: And she also like goes out of her way to say,

680
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: we interpolated Father Figure by George Michael and the song

681
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: Father Figure, and we were in communication with them the

682
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: whole time, because that's what you do when you interpolate something,

683
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: and it's great and that's the right thing to do,

684
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: which to me is directly speaking to the concerns about

685
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: the Olivia Rodriguo and why Taylor Jack and Saint Vincent

686
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: have writing credit on a song like Deja Vu. So

687
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: to me, it's like, not only is she not only

688
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: is that what this song is about, but she wants

689
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: people to know which is a choice, and like, you know,

690
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: like that, certainly that's gonna be polarizing, but I think

691
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: that's the point of life of a showgirl is I

692
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: think she wants it to be messy. She said she

693
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: welcomes the chaos everyone's takes online. Like I think she

694
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: wanted this to be like a chaotic, messy like pop

695
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: star showgirl era. Whether or not you thinking achieved that

696
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: is up to everyone's individual opinion, But I think the

697
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: album does make sense in that way.

698
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what her intention is with performing these

699
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: songs live, because she has not done that.

700
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: I have no idea, and she says she has no

701
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: plans through which I don't know if I believe, But.

702
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: I think this is there's something interesting about just letting

703
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 4: these live on the album, on on the track and

704
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: not have, like have any sort of life beyond. But

705
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: what I think is her be'st music video maybe ever,

706
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 4: which is ver Aphelia.

707
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: I actually and I think the song is really good,

708
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: and I just think, I just think you're being disingenuous

709
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: if you don't listen to the first four songs, like

710
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: I understand as the album goes on, like people have

711
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: their differing feelings, I both agree disagree on certain levels,

712
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: but like she opens this album so strong, I love

713
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: the fant of Ophelia a lot of Gaga sounds.

714
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: I'll even say to me if he listens to be like,

715
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: oh I get it that anyway.

716
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: I not on Mayhem though. I like we when we

717
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: because we did we did our fresh listen of Mayhem together,

718
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: like yeah, that was the best, but that that album

719
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: straight through first time, we were like, oh, this.

720
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: Is this is one of her best.

721
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: Well, that's the.

722
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: Album of the year for sure.

723
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: But you know what other album I really like, which

724
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: kind of came out in the midst of all the

725
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: Life of a Showgirl stuff, is Olivia Dean's album.

726
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: That is going to have a really big movie.

727
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 4: I think in all the vocal in the vocal categories,

728
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: we'll do very well at the Grammy's.

729
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: I think, oh, I think Olivia Dean, like man I

730
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: Need deserves to be the song that takes over, Like

731
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: I think that, Oh, I want to see Olivia Dean

732
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 1: nominated for Best New Artist. I want to see Olivia Dean.

733
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: I would love to see that album get Love. I

734
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: think man I Need Well, that could be a Record

735
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: of the Year Song of the Year nomination, Like a

736
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: song like that, like because she wasn't like she was

737
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: some huge name, but I will say I remember a

738
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: few years ago, maybe it was two years ago at Coachella.

739
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: I was walking by the Goldbi tent during the day

740
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: and Olivia Dean was performing and I was like, we

741
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: have to stop. And she sang a song called the

742
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Hardest Thing, which I ended up streaming a ton and

743
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: there was something really special about her. So watching her

744
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: get this moment the music video for Man I Need

745
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: is so she's like so in her stardom, it's like

746
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: it's like a little bit more of like an activated adele.

747
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: She will be on SNL as the musical guest right

748
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: the week after nominations are announced. I think her team,

749
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 4: her label is probably expecting a very impactful showing in

750
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: the nominations, so that nominations voting, our awards voting, whatever

751
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 4: is this is parlaying very nicely.

752
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: I might really want to go to that show. What

753
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: date is that?

754
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: November fifteenth?

755
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm at Bravo Con. That's gonna be a good one.

756
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good one. Wow. We covered a

757
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: lot of stuff.

758
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: We did a lot and so basically I just wanted

759
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: to get on here with bo because I feel like

760
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: I know that we're doing a lot of guest episodes,

761
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to touch base because so much

762
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: has been happening and I want you to.

763
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Hear our voices.

764
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: But we do have an amazing episode with Emil Laudo

765
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: right now, who is amongst the you know albums that

766
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: we're really enjoying. Also shout out Lowly Young and I

767
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: hope she gets well, yeah, because her album is fantastic too.

768
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, this episode with demis a lot of fun.

769
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Speaker 3: Enjoy ding Dong Lost culture.

770
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: Is this calling a figure of lore in the Lost

771
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: Coach universes?

772
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: Here truly truly a figure of lor.

773
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: She has the number one song on the Great Global Songbook,

774
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 4: our three hundred song we've ranked the three hundred best songs.

775
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: Ever, what do we always say our grand parents had

776
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: somewhere over the rainbow, our grand children will have cool

777
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: for the summer. It's it's a rural culture summer number

778
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: one's it might as well be number one. She did

779
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: place in the Iconic four hundred list of four hundred

780
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: most iconic people for our four hundred episode anniversaries. She

781
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: beat out Elmo, she beat out Martha Stewart. I believe yeah,

782
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: And I think she beat out. Holland Taylor just edged out.

783
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Holland Taylor just edged out and was one of it

784
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: was Carrie Fisher one forty nine, Demi Levado one fifty

785
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: This Hallowed Ground. I wonder if I don't, we're gonna

786
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: bring our guests in a second, because oh it's not

787
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: that deep, Like literally it is deep to us though,

788
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: because I was telling our guests we had the link

789
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: to the album in Pee Town and they just they

790
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: just told us they could see the streams of people

791
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: listening to the links they sent out, and they were like,

792
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: you guys were running up. I was like, no, it's

793
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: it was serious.

794
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 4: I was to first, and then I immediately was like, no,

795
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 4: why would I be ashamed of think they could see it?

796
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: I was like, they could see it, Oh my god.

797
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: It's like it's like when someone can look at your

798
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: emails or text it's like vulnerable. When someone can see

799
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: the number of times you've play much in their potations

800
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: with what you've done, probably HiT's different. It's and honestly,

801
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: it's so deserved.

802
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: We've been a fan like from the jump, and it's

803
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a huge Demi era.

804
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: So let's talk about it. October twenty four in just

805
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: a couple of days. Please welcome to the show.

806
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, I'm so happy to be here.

807
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 2: We're so happy you're here.

808
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: Did you know of like the place you hold in

809
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: our podcast?

810
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 6: I do. I have heard the clips and I've seen

811
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 6: the support and it just makes me feel so loved

812
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 6: and I was like, I have to show my love

813
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 6: right back. So here I am, and I'm so excited.

814
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: We're so happy. Number one.

815
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: So that's like, of all the songs, I guess we

816
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: did that when what was that? Like twenty twenty twenty twenty.

817
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: One was the real Lablet songbook.

818
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't think any song is unspeeding cool for the

819
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: summer at this point until your album.

820
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 6: Thank You, You're so sweet, thank you.

821
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: The fact that you're releasing this album as like a

822
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: fall fucking like dance moment is so major because I

823
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: feel like fall gets like neglected and overlooked as like,

824
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: oh yeah, like do all your moody shit in the fall,

825
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: But you're giving us something hyped up.

826
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 6: We're still going out. Yeah, just because it's fall doesn't

827
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 6: mean we're not going.

828
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: Out to dance. Yeah there's a coach check.

829
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I do feel like Fast was more of

830
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 6: a like a club song, and then here All Night

831
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 6: is a little bit more emotional.

832
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 4: But but yeah, but here All Night is emotional while

833
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: it's like it's it's very much giving, like dancing on

834
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: my own and like you're saying something like like really

835
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 4: emotional and painful. But then the music and like the

836
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: whole like I mean, like the whole aesthetic of it

837
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: is like fuck, but like no, you're you're dancing to

838
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 4: this song about me like being fucking crashed out about

839
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: my own yea, yeah, now yes, but like that's like

840
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 4: the duality and it is that deep.

841
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 6: Sometimes it can be that deep for sure, but I'm

842
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 6: I'm just like the album title for me, it's not

843
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 6: that deep. It's all about like I'm I'm not taking

844
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 6: myself too seriously as an artist anymore, Like I'm just

845
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 6: having fun and I wanted a body of work that's

846
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 6: really reflective of that, and I feel like I really

847
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 6: accomplished it with this album.

848
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: So when you're like sitting down to do a new

849
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: record or when you feel like it's time, are were

850
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: you thinking at first, like I really want to have

851
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: fun with my next project, or were you like, let's

852
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: just see what happens, and it was fun, like what

853
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: came first, the chicken or the egg.

854
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 6: Well, originally, I'm such a fluid person that, like I have,

855
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 6: I've tried on different genres of music throughout my career,

856
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 6: and my last album was a rock album, and so

857
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 6: going into the I going into the next album, I

858
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, I want to continue the rock stuff.

859
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 6: But as I started writing the rock album, I was like,

860
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 6: I can't really, like I'm running out of things to

861
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 6: write about because I'm so happy right now. There's only

862
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 6: so many rock songs you can make, like happy rock

863
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 6: songs that you.

864
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: Can make it.

865
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so then they today was bad and that's like,

866
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 6: that's exactly how I felt. So I was like, I

867
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 6: need to like switch directions, Like it's not resonating with me.

868
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 6: I'm not angry anymore. I'm not in this like a

869
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 6: deeply emotional place anymore like I was when I made

870
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 6: my last album. And so I started trying on different

871
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 6: sounds and I what landed was when I got into

872
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 6: the studio with my producer Zone and he had made

873
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 6: this beat in the car in the uber on the

874
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 6: way to the studio and was like, yeah, I just played.

875
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 6: I just made this track, do you want to hear it?

876
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 6: And I'm like, yeah, turned out to be fire. It was.

877
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 6: It turned into a song called Frequency.

878
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: Oh, like you really went off on that.

879
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 6: Thank you.

880
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 2: It was that that's the one.

881
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you repeat all of them because the album

882
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: hits so hard, and then you just go back and

883
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: started again.

884
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: Us in Pete Towns.

885
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: Frequency is a standout thank you.

886
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: I do that so well.

887
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 6: Thanks, and that song set the tone for the rest

888
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 6: of the project.

889
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: Frequency was first.

890
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 6: Frequency was day on first. I would say it was

891
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 6: when the album really took flight. Yeah, and when I

892
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 6: when we did Frequency, I was like, oh, we're onto

893
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 6: something and I want to chase this sound. And it

894
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 6: was new for me. It's different. It's so different than

895
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 6: anything I've ever done before, and I'm just I'm having

896
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 6: so much fun with it. I'm having so much fun

897
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 6: in my life. I'm in like such a great place

898
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 6: and I wanted my album to be reflective of that,

899
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 6: and so I made a very fun dance pop album.

900
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 4: I mean, at this point, I think You've earned this

901
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 4: idea about you, which is like Demi Lovado is like

902
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: one of our great chameleons, Like musically right, like, but

903
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 4: I feel like it maybe took a while for people

904
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: to realize that because I feel like going from confident

905
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: to tell me you love me was like okay, we're

906
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 4: like we're really in this like nice, great bodied like

907
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: R and B sound, and then you go into all

908
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: the other and then holy fuck is like obviously departure

909
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: and then now to go into this genre. I feel

910
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 4: like it must be a little overwhelming for you because

911
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: you can do it all. You can do so many

912
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: things with your voice, Like what like the options are

913
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: kind of overwhelming, I would say, right like it's good,

914
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 4: Like like what makes you think like, oh, this is

915
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 4: what I want to chase beyond the fact that, like

916
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 4: your producer sends you this track which he produced in

917
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 4: his car, don't produce and drive but.

918
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 6: No, no, no, he was in an uber he was

919
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 6: at the wheel making that say he was at the

920
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 6: wheel to make it more.

921
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Kid, even uber driver is gonna hear that sick track

922
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, what the fuck is that?

923
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: But what what? What?

924
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: What tells you?

925
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Like, what is that feeling that you have as a songwriter?

926
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 6: What inspires me at the time is what I chase

927
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 6: And that's why I've I've fluctuated over the years with

928
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 6: different genres. Johns got to know it, but like, I

929
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 6: really chase what's inspiring me in the moment, and so

930
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 6: when I when I made my rock album, I was

931
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 6: really influenced by rock music. And at the time when

932
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 6: I made Sorry Not Sorry and Tell Me You Love Me,

933
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 6: I was really inspired by more R and B music,

934
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 6: and this project, I was really inspired by the pop

935
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 6: girlies and that's what I chased and I'm really happy

936
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 6: with it.

937
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: Was that like a result of seeing everyone else kind

938
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: of having because last year was such a crazy moment,

939
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: like from the top to the bottom of the year,

940
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: just felt like everyone was having fun again. Like, yeah,

941
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: which of your peers, Like are you inspired by mostly

942
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: or like when you're going into this album?

943
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 6: Well, first off, I was really inspired by Kesha for

944
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 6: this album.

945
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 2: I'm just sure.

946
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 6: I'm such a fan of hers, but she's also like

947
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 6: side note, she's such an incredible human being, Like I

948
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 6: just I fuck with her so much. She's so great

949
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 6: And she was actually the one that was like you

950
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 6: should get in the studio with Zone because they did

951
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 6: joy Ride together and amongst other songs, but that was

952
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 6: the one that, I was like, wait, this is fire,

953
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 6: and so she was like, you should get in the

954
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 6: studio with zone. So I did and that's what ended up,

955
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 6: you know, and I was in the zone.

956
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

957
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

958
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: When you're hearing a track like that, like he plays

959
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: you this track, I just think, if I'm Demi Lovado,

960
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do I figure my voice into it?

961
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: Because you're so known for what you can do with

962
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: your voice, and I feel like, when you hear a

963
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: track like that, mm hmm, is that that must it

964
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: must be a fun challenge and obviously you conquered it,

965
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: But I guess my question is how do you figure

966
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: your voice into something like that? Because you hit the

967
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: chorus and your voice is huge in the chorus and

968
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: then you're like, your ad libs are sick. But I

969
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: just can't imagine hearing that in the track when you

970
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: first heard it.

971
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't. I definitely didn't hear like a big

972
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 6: vocal moment. When I first heard the track, I heard

973
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 6: the talking verses and the sexiness. But then as we

974
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 6: started making it, we were like we should chase like

975
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 6: a kind of Britney vibe in the pre choruses. And

976
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 6: then and then when it hit the chorus. I I

977
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 6: one thing about me is when I'm in the studio,

978
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 6: I'm like, where's my vocal moment? Like, yeah, I want

979
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 6: to have fun on the track, but like, where's my

980
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 6: vocal moment? Because that's what people know me for and

981
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 6: that's what I have fun singing. So that's yeah, that's

982
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 6: where hundred we're.

983
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: Going to take a break. I think we have a possible.

984
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you, And that's the tea. That's the tea.

985
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: What was working with our good friend, our Sisterland.

986
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: One of our best, the best.

987
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 6: He's so talented and he's so fun. That's the thing

988
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 6: about working with all of his songwriters on this project

989
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 6: was we had such a great time in the studio.

990
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 6: Every day was full of laughter. And I think that,

991
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 6: you know, translates onto the album, Like I mean, obviously

992
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 6: you're not going to listen to a song and laugh,

993
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 6: but you can tell that we had fun making it.

994
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 6: And and Leland opened up his studio to us and

995
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 6: goes down there, which I've actually he's opened it up

996
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 6: many times. Like I just did a face on playback.

997
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: There is familiar.

998
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: He's wanting to do that for such a long time.

999
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: He's like I want to have like listening parties here

1000
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: and like the whole thing. So I'm happy it happened

1001
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: me too.

1002
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 6: It's such a cute place. But he's so talented and

1003
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 6: I love working with him.

1004
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: He does bring such a spirit of fun, I think

1005
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: because like he works them on like all these different

1006
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: kinds of projects like in film and TV, especially with

1007
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: drag Race, where it's just like he's not afraid to

1008
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: be like whimsical and it to have like of course, it's.

1009
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: Like you're listening to it and it's like this is serious, but.

1010
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: Then like I don't know even the way that you

1011
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: deliver the verse in that song and also kiss, like

1012
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: you have to be stepping away.

1013
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: From the mic sometimes being like I'm giggling like it's

1014
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, kiss your giggling.

1015
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 4: Like you might not laugh at the songs, but I

1016
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 4: feel like you you are engineering these moments. We're listening

1017
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 4: at home going like whoa, that was great, Like ha ha,

1018
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 4: I'm laughing because like I don't expect that like this.

1019
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 6: It's such what a simple lyric. I kiss for fun.

1020
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 6: It's fun to kiss, and guess what it is not

1021
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 6: that deep.

1022
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: No, it's not very simple that we run into out there.

1023
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 6: And it's so it was so fun to sing. I

1024
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 6: was having the time of my life in the studio.

1025
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: I feel like, you're able to make something like this.

1026
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: You're you're able to make a dancy poppy album like

1027
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: this in context to other albums where you have obviously

1028
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 4: gone deep and so therefore, but if you're staying in

1029
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: the depth, it's relative, right, Like, if you're staying in that,

1030
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 4: then it's not deep because it's just on one like dimension.

1031
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 4: But if you're doing something fun, it actually makes the

1032
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 4: other stuff more meaningful in retrospect, right, it makes this

1033
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 4: thing more meaningful.

1034
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 6: Right, you know?

1035
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I share end Bow one as well,

1036
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: but like our number ones are Kelly Clarkson love Kelly

1037
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: feel like I was, like, I wonder when we asked

1038
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: her the culture question, like what was the culture that

1039
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: made you say culture was for you?

1040
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 6: If it would be Kelly, I was going to say

1041
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 6: American Idol. I was going to say American Idol.

1042
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: Consider this the question, so American Idol, Like, go, how

1043
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: did it affect you?

1044
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: Like, what was it about it that made you?

1045
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 6: American Idol made me dream? It gave me a sense

1046
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 6: of hope and possibility that if Kelly Clarkson, this girl

1047
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 6: from Burlason, Texas, could make it on American Idol and

1048
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 6: have people voting for her every week, which I was

1049
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 6: one of them. If she could make it, then I

1050
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 6: could and it gave me hope and I had so

1051
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 6: much fun watching the show. She's so talented and she

1052
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 6: was my first idol. Yeah, I really think she was

1053
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 6: my first idol.

1054
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 4: It made something extra that you were also in Texas

1055
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: then at the time, yes, so like yeah, it's like

1056
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: it's completely close to home where were like literally like, oh,

1057
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 4: if she can do it, I can do it. Yes, exactly,

1058
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 4: and it was people like and you were learning about

1059
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 4: music as you were watching it at home, like this

1060
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: is like this week we're singing all songs from like

1061
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 4: Gladys Knight and the Pips and then like exactly how

1062
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 4: you learn about this?

1063
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 6: I learned about Gladys Knight through Kelly Clarkson on American God.

1064
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 6: I think it must be so hard to be on

1065
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 6: one of those singing competition shows where you have to

1066
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 6: learn a new song every week. Yeah, like it must

1067
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 6: be so challenging. But she did that, Like she really

1068
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 6: did that and I'm sure most of the songs that

1069
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 6: she sang she already knew, or at least it felt

1070
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 6: that way. Yeah, And I just think she's amazing.

1071
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 4: Were you like writing your own songs, because, like, I

1072
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: think what kind of gets not lost? But I feel

1073
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 4: like what people don't realize is that, like you were

1074
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 4: writing your own CDs, you were like selling them in

1075
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 4: your neighborhood when you were growing up. Was you know that? Yeah, coach,

1076
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: Oh that's so cute.

1077
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: I love that.

1078
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 4: It was in Child Star I was you directly right, Yes,

1079
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 4: it was like so charming. It was like the whole

1080
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 4: family talking about like, yeah, DEMI would like sell her

1081
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: CD for ten dollars.

1082
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: And I would.

1083
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 6: I'd go around the neighborhood and I'd sell my CDs

1084
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 6: in order to like pay for vocal lessons, pay for

1085
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 6: vocal lessons, but also pay for the beauty pageants I

1086
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 6: was in because those were not cheap.

1087
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1088
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, And God, but I worked, really, I've been working

1089
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 6: hard for a really long time, even as a kid.

1090
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1091
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's why it's so great to see

1092
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: you having so much fun with this and doing something

1093
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: that's clearly like I don't know, I bet you can

1094
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: look back to when you started out on Disney Channel

1095
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you if you Sometimes I wish I

1096
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: could reach back to my younger self and it's like,

1097
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: check out this thing you did from now you're like, oh,

1098
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm having fun in the future. Yeah, yeah, like thank god.

1099
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean I think that it's a combination of things.

1100
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 6: I think it's the place where I'm at in my

1101
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 6: life today. It's also the team I have around me.

1102
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 6: The team that I have, like it never feels like work.

1103
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 6: Like I did probably eleven interviews today and it didn't

1104
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 6: feel like work because in between interviews I'm joking and

1105
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 6: I'm laughing with my team who's so supportive and they're

1106
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 6: fans of the work that I'm creating. So it like

1107
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 6: it just feels it just feels so fulfilling. And yeah, I.

1108
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: Was gonna ask, and I texted him this morning. I

1109
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: was like, do you think it's okay? If I asked?

1110
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: I mean, like about like what it's like working with you,

1111
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: like like Brandon Creed. Yeah, I was because I've gotten

1112
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: to know him through like just like hanging out with

1113
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: Ari or like hanging out with or something like he's

1114
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 4: just like I think he is, and like whether or

1115
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 4: not I aske him because I was like, I don't

1116
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 4: know if you feel okay being like a discussion point.

1117
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 4: But I feel like he like is obviously getting his

1118
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 4: shine as a manager. But I feel like he's doing

1119
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 4: something really special and focused with all of his clients.

1120
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 4: I feel like I want to ask, like, what your

1121
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: relationship is with him, because it feels like you guys

1122
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: are like unlocking something together. It is so authentic but

1123
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: joyful but cool, but like all of these things and

1124
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 4: still you and still.

1125
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 6: I think what's so great about working with Brandon is

1126
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 6: not only is he such an incredible manager, He's killing

1127
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 6: it right now.

1128
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: Look at his roster.

1129
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 6: I mean like every day he's posting something new from

1130
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 6: one of his artists and I'm like, yes, that's my manager,

1131
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 6: go yeah. And but also working with him is he's

1132
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 6: given me so much insight and like he's so brilliant

1133
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 6: and so so you know, he has led me in

1134
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 6: the right directions and he set me up with the

1135
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 6: right people who have helped me create such an incredible

1136
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 6: rollout for this project that feels different, more different than

1137
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 6: anything I've ever created. And I really have him to

1138
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 6: credit for that.

1139
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the album cover was something I wasn't expecting because

1140
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: it's you, like a little bit distant, surrounded, and I'm

1141
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: just thinking about like how it's a perfect album cover

1142
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: because it's like the center is like unmistakably you, but

1143
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: there is a community there. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like,

1144
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: can you talk about the album art?

1145
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 6: Yes, So the album art was shot by Daniel Sachen

1146
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 6: and it was actually we shot it on the day

1147
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 6: that I shot the fast music video sick.

1148
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, love thank you you think so

1149
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: Galvin I throw the destruction thank you.

1150
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 6: Well, we wanted to capture that on the album cover too.

1151
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 6: So there's all this chaos around me, and it's no

1152
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 6: secret that I lived this very public life. I'm on

1153
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 6: display twenty four to seven, and you know, I'm naked

1154
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 6: on the album cover holding a dry cleaning bag, and

1155
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 6: so it's showing me in a very vulnerable state but

1156
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 6: unfazed by the chaos. And something also that's really nice

1157
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 6: is that there's the we heart our customers on the

1158
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 6: dry cleaning bag. It's like, that's an ode to my fans.

1159
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 6: This album is for my fans. We hurt our customers,

1160
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 6: we hurt our levatics, our customers. And then lastly, if

1161
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 6: there's one thing about me, if there is a photo,

1162
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 6: I will lock the fuck in.

1163
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: And that I locked in on that smiling serving?

1164
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 6: Are we smiling or serving? We're always serving?

1165
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: Do you ask yourself that in the beginning of the

1166
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: day for you, like sometimes I wonder, like, you know,

1167
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: how early does it start?

1168
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 6: It depends on how early the photographs are being taken.

1169
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 3: Period.

1170
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 6: If there is a picture outside of my bedroom when

1171
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 6: I first wake up in the morning, I will serve yes, yes,

1172
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 6: glamor not ye.

1173
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: A little known fact that I was so gagged by

1174
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: when I was in high school was I was obsessed

1175
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: with Desperate Housewives And.

1176
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: That's your sister.

1177
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: Yes, that is what little Solise?

1178
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, that's my little Yes, that is amazing.

1179
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: I this should be known in culture. I think, like

1180
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: that's like Demi's sister.

1181
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, oh my god, Madison so cute. This is

1182
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: showbiz royalty in this family.

1183
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: Damn yeah.

1184
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: It's truly so like when you when you were like

1185
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: growing up and like you see her on a huge show.

1186
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: Were you protective or were you supportive? As like a

1187
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: mixture of both.

1188
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 6: I think at the time I wish I had been

1189
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 6: a little bit more protective, to be honest, because that

1190
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 6: role was I think really challenging for her at such

1191
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 6: a young age, and I think I had been distracted

1192
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 6: by my own stuff going on, unfortunately, and so I

1193
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 6: live with some regret in that aspect. But also, there's

1194
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 6: only so much you can do as a fifteen, sixteen,

1195
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 6: seventeen year old, right, You're.

1196
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: Not like a hardened veteran of the business. You're like

1197
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: starting out in.

1198
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 6: Your own I was starting out too, and my family

1199
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 6: and I were new to this industry, and we just

1200
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 6: happened to both get opportunities that were really big for

1201
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 6: the both of us at the same time, which happened

1202
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 6: to move us all out to LA And Yeah, I

1203
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 6: think I do have a little bit of regret because

1204
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 6: I think it was a difficult role for her. You know,

1205
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 6: there was a lot of scrutiny in the show about

1206
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 6: her body, and I hate that, but I think, you know,

1207
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 6: she's so strong and she's so amazing that she turned

1208
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 6: out so great, and you know, I'm so proud of her.

1209
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 6: She did incredible work on that show.

1210
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was very, very memorable on it. Yeah, we

1211
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: all remember, like extremely talented, like she's very galvanized in

1212
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: the scene.

1213
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 5: And yeah they were, Yeah, they bought the relationship Eva,

1214
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 5: But I feel like it's the saying where I hope

1215
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: you don't carry that regret to heavily because it's like

1216
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 5: it's like it's like the airplane mask role.

1217
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: It's like you have to take care of yourself before

1218
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: you take care of her.

1219
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I have like an interesting

1220
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 6: perspective on it today, Like we talked about it in

1221
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 6: my Child Star documentary and she opened up and was

1222
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 6: vulnerable with me then, and I think that in that moment,

1223
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 6: that's when I realized the effect of the show had

1224
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 6: on her. And so but I've always been protective over her.

1225
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 6: She's my baby sister and she always will be.

1226
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1227
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 4: I mean, just to speak on the documentary of it all,

1228
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 4: like not even just child Star, but I feel like

1229
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: the fact that you have gone through all of this

1230
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: just development on yourself is so amazing because you are

1231
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: one of the only pop girls who, like is honest,

1232
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 4: You're willing to go there, like you've done the work

1233
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 4: of like self examining, and not a lot of people

1234
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 4: do that publicly, and like like whenever people document like

1235
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 4: my struggles. I'm like, oh wait, this is this is

1236
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 4: a little too much, not even that it doesn't even

1237
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 4: compare to you, but I'm just like, this is a

1238
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: weird feeling, and I feel like the fact that you've

1239
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 4: been so brave and doing those things is like, is incredible.

1240
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: That's why people root for you.

1241
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 6: Thank you. Honestly, I had a decision that had to

1242
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 6: be made when I had gone to treatment for the

1243
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 6: first time. I had this very public outburst and when

1244
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 6: I was eighteen, and which I talked about in some

1245
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 6: of my documentaries, but god, there's so many I always we.

1246
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: Watched the person together, Yes, but it's because of this

1247
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: very thing. It's because there is no bullshit with you.

1248
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 6: Right And in that moment, my manager at the time

1249
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 6: asked me, like, do you want to be public with

1250
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 6: what you're going through or do you want to sweep

1251
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 6: it under the rug and not talk about it, which

1252
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 6: you have a right to both. You don't have you

1253
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 6: don't owe anybody anything. But I was like, I didn't

1254
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 6: have a role model at thirteen that was speaking up

1255
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 6: about eating disorders, and I was like, I need to

1256
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 6: be that role model for someone else. Like it was

1257
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 6: this responsibility that I was willing to take on because

1258
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 6: I wish that I could have had that growing up,

1259
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 6: Like there were older actresses that had come out and

1260
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 6: talk about talked about having an eating disorder, nobody that

1261
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 6: I could relate to at thirteen, especially at the time

1262
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 6: when the beauty standards were you know, very very dangerous,

1263
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 6: and so I wanted to be that for other people.

1264
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 6: And that's kind of the catalyst for why I've been

1265
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 6: open about all of my struggles is in that moment

1266
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 6: when I made that decision, it set the tone for

1267
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 6: the rest of my life of like, you know, I

1268
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 6: want to help people, and the best way that I

1269
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 6: know how is sharing my personal experience with them.

1270
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1271
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: I feel like also too, when you talk earlier about

1272
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: like I sat down and like I couldn't even write

1273
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: angry or sad songs if I tried, Like this is

1274
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: the way I'm feeling. I'm feeling happy. You can even

1275
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: hear in your voice, like just the way you choose

1276
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: which notes it's like incredibly emotional and like also very characterized,

1277
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: like you can't lie in your music, it feels like

1278
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite songs is.

1279
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: In my Head on the new album.

1280
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 6: At my husband wrote that song, Yes.

1281
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: He did, brilliant because it's like it's it's this incredibly

1282
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: like honest thing. And also the way you've chosen the melody,

1283
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: I could do anything on that, Like it's almost like

1284
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: you're like like arguing or someone or like kind of

1285
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: like rationalizing, and it's in the melody line in a

1286
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: way that feels so honest. So and then when on

1287
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: tell Me You Love Me, which is I think my

1288
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: favorite album of yours, Decidentists one, like the way you

1289
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: choose when to be powerful, when to descend, when to

1290
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: like have like a moment that trails off. It's just

1291
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: it's all really rooted. And I can tell like you

1292
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: listening to like the best singers, the most honest emotional singers,

1293
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: and so I think you didn't really have a choice

1294
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: but to be honest, because yeah, it's in your art.

1295
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 6: I grew up singing to very soulful singers. So I

1296
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 6: grew up singing to Aretha and Whitney and Christina and Kelly,

1297
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 6: and they all had soul in their voice, and that's

1298
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 6: what drew me in as a child, was like, oh,

1299
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 6: there's like depths there and I don't even think I

1300
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 6: was conscious of it, but there was just something that

1301
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 6: made me feel what they were singing about so deeply

1302
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 6: that I was like, that's just what I want to like,

1303
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 6: that's the kind of vocalist I want to be.

1304
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have like an unsung hero American Idol contestant,

1305
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: like someone from way back that you're like, oh, this

1306
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: person was someone like because Kelly obviously famously, but like

1307
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: I always look back and like, it's so crazy, we'll

1308
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: just jump out of my mind from that age when

1309
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: you remember it everything, But like tanis Kimberly Locke from

1310
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: season two, Like Kimberly lock remember.

1311
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: No.

1312
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: She released a single afterwards and actually is about we

1313
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: performed it at our Cultural Awards too years.

1314
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 4: Oh my god, amazing the year after the summer at

1315
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 4: our Culture Awards exactly at the point, okay, but where

1316
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 4: were you going to say, Kimberly lo I wasn't like

1317
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 4: it was.

1318
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 6: Really season one that did it for me. After season one,

1319
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, it's.

1320
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: Nice, I'm doing it.

1321
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 6: Yeah. I was still young. I still watched, but it

1322
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 6: just didn't have the choke hold on me that Kelly's

1323
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 6: season had. But there were incredible vocalists on all of

1324
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 6: those seasons and there still are.

1325
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1326
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: That's the thing is like you check back in and

1327
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: now there's so many of them. We take it for granted.

1328
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: But like America's got talent has incredible people that come

1329
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: through the voice. Obviously, sometimes I put on the voice

1330
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, these I can't believe this is.

1331
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: Even a live vocal in this blind audition.

1332
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 6: You know who has one of the best vocalists or

1333
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 6: one of the best vocals from American Idol period is

1334
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 6: Adam Lambert. Oh, he's on an unsung hero. He's a hero,

1335
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 6: but like his voice is just insane.

1336
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is one that He's also one of the

1337
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: most expressive, and he never even shied away from being camp.

1338
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: I remember one time he's feeling good in a white

1339
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: suit and he like descended the stairs and he was

1340
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: so like he wasn't like out gay at the time,

1341
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: because it was still weird at the time in the public,

1342
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: but he was announcing himself so much. And I remember

1343
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: the next day I went to school and some girls

1344
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: were talking about American Idol and I kind of like,

1345
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, shuffled over and a couple of them were like, yeah,

1346
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: my mom didn't want to vote for.

1347
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: Him anymore after that performance, and.

1348
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, how far we've come. Yeah, that

1349
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: like so many artists can express themselves like however they want,

1350
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: because he was on the biggest show in the world

1351
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: at that time with that crazy expressive voice, so emotional,

1352
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: and he also was himself yeah, and made it really

1353
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: fun to get.

1354
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 6: Go exactly always himself.

1355
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: Didn't win, and I wonder would he have won five

1356
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: years ago today? Who knows, Like maybe.

1357
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe he was that No, his voice is just

1358
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 6: it's unbelievable.

1359
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was asking about the I brought up the

1360
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 4: CDs earlier because there was a moment in Child Star

1361
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 4: that like really gave me pause where you know, you

1362
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 4: were talking about, uh playing these songs they'd written for

1363
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 4: Exacts and they were like, yeah, nuve we're into and

1364
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 4: that kind of was let's play you up with these

1365
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 4: producers and songwriters, which you know you did with the

1366
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 4: plom like you succeeded in that regard of like working

1367
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 4: with others as a collaborator of grade.

1368
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 2: Skill to have, but that it chipped away, like this competency.

1369
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 6: Confidence that I had went out the window for a

1370
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 6: period of time and even today sometimes I'll go into

1371
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 6: the studio and I'm like, is this a good idea

1372
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 6: or like and I rely on my co writers a

1373
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 6: lot to say, like, you know, do we need to

1374
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 6: fix this lyric or is it good? And they give

1375
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 6: me their opinions, which is why I love co writing,

1376
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 6: Like I love the collaboration of like having the input

1377
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 6: of other people and having their brilliant ideas come to

1378
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 6: the surface, because I really think if you want to

1379
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 6: create the best body of work that you possibly can, like,

1380
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 6: it's good to have feedback. But when I was fifteen,

1381
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 6: I went and played my my demo basically for my

1382
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 6: manager at the time, and it was it was really

1383
01:06:55,520 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 6: unfortunate because he he wasn't mean about it, just there

1384
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 6: wasn't like a positive reception on what I was writing.

1385
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 6: It was like, oh, okay, but let's get you in

1386
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 6: the studio, and I was like, oh, I've I used

1387
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 6: to be the type of artist that would sing and

1388
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 6: like play my guitar and sing until six in the morning.

1389
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 6: Like my dad would be getting up getting ready for

1390
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 6: work and would be like, DEMI go to bed, stop singing,

1391
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 6: and I would just be in my room and I'd

1392
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 6: be like, you know, a little manic, but your creative exactly.

1393
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 6: And and I stopped doing it at that age, and

1394
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 6: I started second guessing myself. And I think it's something

1395
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 6: that has because that happened at such a young age,

1396
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 6: it's still embedded in me a little bit, Like there

1397
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 6: is some self doubt when it comes to my songwriting.

1398
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 6: Not my vocals. I know I'm that bitch with my vocals,

1399
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 6: but like you know, with the songwriting, it was it

1400
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 6: definitely put self doubt in my head, which was kind

1401
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 6: of sad.

1402
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 4: That is devastating to hear because it is something that like,

1403
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, we relate to this on like a

1404
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 4: performance like comedy level obviously, yes, and like it's just

1405
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 4: this thing that like and like if you've read the

1406
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 4: artist's way, like she talks all about like those first

1407
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 4: people who like snuff out that thing in you are

1408
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 4: devastating and it's going to take you a long time

1409
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 4: to get over it. But I feel like I bring

1410
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 4: this up too because Brett Leland was telling us like, oh,

1411
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 4: Demi comes into the studio, she's a fucking beast, and

1412
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 4: like she knows what she wants, she knows how to

1413
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 4: like construct a song. She knows how to songwrite, Yes,

1414
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 4: and like, I hope that in making this album you've

1415
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 4: kind of like keeled up.

1416
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 6: I was gonna say that this album was really healing

1417
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 6: for that part of myself because there were days when

1418
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 6: I was in the studio and I came up with

1419
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 6: the hook or I came up with this and the

1420
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 6: concept of the song, and like, I really do have

1421
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 6: a vision, and I had a vision with this album,

1422
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 6: But there were also days where I'd come into the

1423
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 6: studio and be like, I have no idea what to

1424
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 6: write about today, Let's just wing it and we come

1425
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 6: up with something great and frequency there was that wasn't

1426
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 6: like a concept that I came into the studio with

1427
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 6: of like we need to write a song about this.

1428
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 6: It was just the I matched the vibes of the

1429
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 6: track with the lyrics and we came up with something great.

1430
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think it has been healing for me,

1431
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 6: as like recognizing my worth as a songwriter has shown

1432
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 6: through on this project.

1433
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 2: Love it? What about live? Are we hitting the road?

1434
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 2: You don't have to reveal, but you could.

1435
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 6: There's nothing set in stone right the second, but there's

1436
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 6: definitely playing.

1437
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: We were talking earlier, we were all listening to it

1438
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: for the millionth time, and people that were hearing it

1439
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: for the first.

1440
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: Time were like, when is it going on tour?

1441
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: It's like one of those things if it does feel

1442
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: a lot like I remember we saw we saw the

1443
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: Sweat tour at Madison Square Garden and it felt like

1444
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: the place was gonna flip over. Now it was like

1445
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: music like this that's like this type of sound and

1446
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: that type of space. You just can't recreate it anywhere now. Yeah,

1447
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: like especially when you can like attach an amazing hook

1448
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: to it like you have and thank you.

1449
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: It's going to be really sick live.

1450
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 6: I haven't toured in three years, so it's time, and

1451
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 6: I definitely want to. I miss seeing the reactions of

1452
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 6: my fans, face it on their faces when I play

1453
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 6: their favorite songs and the emotions that they, you know,

1454
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 6: convey when they're sitting in there, when they're standing in

1455
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 6: the audience and and I sang Skyscraper and the tears

1456
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 6: flowing down their faces, Like I really do miss that connection.

1457
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so many hits.

1458
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: Do you have one?

1459
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: Do you have one where you're like, okay, this one,

1460
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: here we go and then by the end you're.

1461
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that one it used.

1462
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 6: To be give your Heart a Break. But when I

1463
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 6: got back on stage, I started playing it again for

1464
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 6: the first time. I would say, like a couple of

1465
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 6: years ago. I hadn't played it in so long because

1466
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 6: I was just like, I'm tired of this song. And

1467
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 6: you're allowed to change your lives show and play songs

1468
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 6: that you want to and take out songs that you don't.

1469
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 6: But I when I performed that for the first time

1470
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 6: in years, the reaction was so great that I was like, wait,

1471
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 6: I love this.

1472
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 1: You forget what it felt like? Yeah, because then the

1473
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: element of like surprise and nostalgia kicks in and you're like,

1474
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, I remember all the words to it.

1475
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: It's formative.

1476
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: It brings you back to a time when you were like,

1477
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, and.

1478
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 6: It's a crowd favorite, so like I love seeing their

1479
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 6: reaction too.

1480
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, what do you think you're channeling

1481
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 4: while you sing? Let's just talk about like the vocals,

1482
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 4: like do you do you feel something like passed through you?

1483
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 4: I love it when like and it doesn't have to

1484
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 4: be true, but I love it when certain singers and

1485
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 4: vocalists are like, oh no, I'm like I'm connecting with

1486
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 4: something high or lower whatever, or I'm I'm like playing

1487
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 4: a character, Like, is there is there anything qualitatively true

1488
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 4: about this when I'm in.

1489
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 6: My flow stage?

1490
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: Yep.

1491
01:11:55,240 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 6: Absolutely, There's something that comes over me and with ad

1492
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 6: libs and new high notes that I didn't think about

1493
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 6: before when I recorded the album that like I can't explain,

1494
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 6: but a lot of times I get into my head

1495
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 6: when I'm performing because I am such a perfectionist. So

1496
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 6: like if I'm out of my head, absolutely, but when

1497
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 6: I'm in my head, I'm not channeling so hard.

1498
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 4: It's so hard because I say, like, is there a

1499
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 4: way to translate that to like the songwriting experience, which

1500
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 4: it sounds like there was, like you were like in

1501
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 4: these flow states in the studio coming up with the hooks. Yeah,

1502
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 4: it's just the thing you can't force, which is kind

1503
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 4: of the sucky thing.

1504
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: But like the like the.

1505
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 4: Flow state is like the number one like thing that

1506
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,879
Speaker 4: human beings chase the most across all cultures.

1507
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: It's like this feeling of like losing track of time.

1508
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 2: It reminds me of.

1509
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 6: The movie Soul. Oh yeah, you know, like that's what

1510
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 6: I chase with music, and the second that it stops feeling.

1511
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 6: Like the movie Soul, I have to put a pause

1512
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 6: on it, you know what I mean, I have to

1513
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 6: reconnect with the music.

1514
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an amazing movie that that is about

1515
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 2: that exact thing.

1516
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love that movie.

1517
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: Just ao about how music just kind of like is

1518
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 2: this like is like the way that like our lives

1519
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 2: kind of like get constructed or like they frame our

1520
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 2: lives in a certain thing.

1521
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's the most incredible thing that human

1522
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: beings are capable of doing and sharing. I think is

1523
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: music like the way that you can just like that's

1524
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: be Ernest McGee over here, but like it's true, like

1525
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: the way that I mean, it really can change things.

1526
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 6: It transcends lyrics, our language, It transcends language, Like you

1527
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 6: don't I could be listening to a song that's in

1528
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 6: a different language, but I can. It'll make me weep

1529
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 6: if it's the right chords and the right emotion behind it,

1530
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And it's it's so beautiful

1531
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 6: how universal it is.

1532
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: You have this moment on let You Go, which is

1533
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: the synth after at the end of the chorus, like

1534
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: just like again we were vibing in p Town, like

1535
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm on the deck, like I have my like shades

1536
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: not on like those I remember those. I was kind

1537
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: of feeling my like Demi and then just that sin

1538
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,839
Speaker 1: that was like that is really special.

1539
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 6: It's good.

1540
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 2: Who found that?

1541
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, that sone is brilliant. Do you ever come

1542
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: in like singing things and hearing things that you know.

1543
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: Are absolutely yea.

1544
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 6: Sometimes I'll I have my my voice notes on my

1545
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 6: phone are just like there's got to be a thousand

1546
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 6: of them, and sometimes it's just like the like that

1547
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 6: will turn into a synth or it'll turn into a song,

1548
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 6: like I'm not sure what it, but like sometimes I'll

1549
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 6: just come up with something like that and it'll be

1550
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 6: on a voice note and my phone just felt.

1551
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: So intentional that part of the song. It feels like

1552
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: it feels like one of those lines that you that

1553
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: you really remember. It was very classic.

1554
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: Good you know what I mean. It makes me have

1555
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: that there is.

1556
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: Something a little bit retro about the way that synth

1557
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: sounds too, that sort.

1558
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 2: Of yeah, yeah, yeah.

1559
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 4: Do you say you had listening parties at You've already

1560
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 4: had some of the fan and experiences.

1561
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 6: Yes, I've had two fan play back.

1562
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: How are they?

1563
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 6: God? It was so much fun. It was so fun

1564
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 6: to see my fans, like they got up and danced,

1565
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 6: you know and kiss on here all night on Fast

1566
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,440
Speaker 6: and then they really like took in the other songs.

1567
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 6: And watching them take it in was you know, it

1568
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 6: was really impactful for me because I made these songs

1569
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 6: from such a vulnerable place and here they are connecting

1570
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 6: with them and it's resonating with them, Like it makes

1571
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 6: it all worth it. Being that vulnerable in front of

1572
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 6: you know, all these people, like it just makes it

1573
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 6: worth it. And and yeah, seeing their emotional reaction to

1574
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 6: it was awesome. But also like seeing them have so

1575
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,480
Speaker 6: much fun was also amazing.

1576
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 4: Like I wonder, like who it's more rewarding for, Like

1577
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 4: not that it's like that it is more warring for

1578
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 4: one particular group, but it's like it's just as rewarding

1579
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 4: for you and Zone and Leland and everyone who's worked

1580
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 4: on this album. To see how people like this is

1581
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 4: your first test audience. Really, it's the first time you're

1582
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 4: seeing people respond to it. Yes, and it is telling

1583
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 4: you it's a lot of information for you, Yes, you

1584
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1585
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it's valuable for you.

1586
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 6: It's all that It's valuable for me because I get

1587
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 6: to see, like, what are the fan favorites, what are

1588
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 6: the ones that they're going to go crazy for at

1589
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 6: the show that I need to do something a little

1590
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 6: extra for and or is there a song that I

1591
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 6: want to put out as a single because it's in

1592
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 6: demand with the fans? You know what I mean. It's

1593
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 6: like that information is very valuable to me as an artist.

1594
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: I not to be like the tell Me You Love

1595
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: Me to stay on here, but that album is again

1596
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: up until now my favorite. You and Williams in the

1597
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 1: video for tell Me You Love Me, you were acting

1598
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: down and you forget that like thank you camera, acting

1599
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: like you really could give like more presence in it

1600
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: than you do. Is that something that interests you?

1601
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 6: Because I like so insecure as an actress?

1602
01:16:58,760 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 2: Really yeah?

1603
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 6: Because I really great and dropped in Thank You. I

1604
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 6: feel like I took a break for so long from

1605
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 6: acting that I'm like scared to get back into it.

1606
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 6: And I've had offers and I have acted. I did

1607
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 6: an independent film called Toe last year or Yeah last year,

1608
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 6: and then it came out at Tribeca Film Festival this year,

1609
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 6: and and it was it was fun. It was like

1610
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 6: I dipped my toes. It was a small role. I

1611
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 6: dipped my toes back into acting and I had a

1612
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 6: lot of fun with it, and it was something that

1613
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 6: I think I want to do, but like I just

1614
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 6: have to, like I don't know, I feel like I

1615
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 6: need to do acting lessons or something.

1616
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 4: It's the perfectionist thing again. Yes, yeah, are you what's

1617
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 4: your sign?

1618
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,480
Speaker 6: I'm a Leo? Okay, yeah, or Leo's perfectionist.

1619
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know about them as perfectionists.

1620
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, it's like it feels like a

1621
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 4: like a Leo or like like a Virgo Jason or

1622
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 4: Leo thing.

1623
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 2: Okay, do Virgo in your chart somewhere. I feel like

1624
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: this is just.

1625
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 6: Maybe I did my chart one time and then forgot it.

1626
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: No problem.

1627
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: Scorpio, which is like easy for us to remember.

1628
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 6: I know I'm a double Leo.

1629
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's a lot of that's.

1630
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 6: A lot of les.

1631
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: I got a lion on my hand, yeah, really beautiful.

1632
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1633
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: A lot of tattoos I do.

1634
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: What's what's the mystery? It was?

1635
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 6: I feel like I went so hard on tattoos at

1636
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 6: such a young age. But I'm like, I wish I

1637
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 6: had been more selective with my tattoos, but there are

1638
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 6: ones that I really love. My most recent one was

1639
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 6: this says I love you more. It's my mom's handwriting.

1640
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: My mom and I say the same thing.

1641
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so funny. My mom and I will be

1642
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 6: on the phone and like we'll go to hang up,

1643
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 6: and right before someone hangs up, I love you.

1644
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: It's like we have to say we have the acronym

1645
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: l M.

1646
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

1647
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: It's almost like a.

1648
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: Conversation can't really be over unless that's been typed.

1649
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 6: You know, we're so close to my mom and I

1650
01:18:56,479 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 6: I'm so close with my mom. She's such an angel.

1651
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 6: So yeah, I got that tattooed, and that was my

1652
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 6: most recent one because.

1653
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: I feel like your husband, your husband is tattoo so.

1654
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 6: He has tatted the fuck out.

1655
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, iad someone.

1656
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 6: No, it's just like had a little bit. I wish

1657
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 6: I'd thought more about it rather than getting all these

1658
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:18,520
Speaker 6: impulsive tattoos.

1659
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: But you know, do you have any Well maybe you

1660
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 1: won't want to share this, but are there any tattoos

1661
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: that like, whenever you look at it, you're like, oh,

1662
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: it's a person.

1663
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 6: I have one and.

1664
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: You're like's never gonna not remind me.

1665
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 6: I know I have one that's like that, and it

1666
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 6: is what it is.

1667
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: It is.

1668
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's almost kind of nice because I remember I

1669
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: only have three small ones, but in preparing to get them,

1670
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: I probably you too. It's kind of like, Okay, you're

1671
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: gonna look at this forever, like are you going to

1672
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: regret it? It's weird like even the ones you regret,

1673
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: you think warmly about the time that you got.

1674
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, like it was still a cool story. But behind

1675
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 6: the tattoo that I got. But do I wish I

1676
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 6: didn't get a matching tattoo with someone?

1677
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: Yes, you have to be sure about matching tattoos, just

1678
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: for little culture number twelve.

1679
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 2: No, I think have to tattoos.

1680
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 6: But I think you don't do it. I think it's

1681
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 6: like cursed.

1682
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the idea of matching tattoos. Yes, I don't.

1683
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 6: I don't like matching tattoos. It's just like I don't know.

1684
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: Because it bitenes you to someone. It's almost like a

1685
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: contract or It's just like I.

1686
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 6: Just feel like every time I've like I've gotten two

1687
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 6: matching tattoos and it just didn't end up well. So

1688
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 6: like rule of and then I've had like ex boyfriends

1689
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 6: get my name on them and that didn't work out,

1690
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 6: and so I just feel like real of them, Like

1691
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 6: it's just not a good idea.

1692
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah yeah, I think yeah, make it a law.

1693
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: We've been talking about getting a matching one.

1694
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe you do like a variation, like

1695
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 6: like me and Matthew Scott. If me and Matthews be

1696
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:58,520
Speaker 6: my best friend, yes, friend, yeah who you guys know,

1697
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 6: and if we were to get imagine tattoo, Like we've

1698
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 6: talked about getting like a little bat or something for Halloween,

1699
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 6: Like if he got a bat, I would get a pumpkin.

1700
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 6: Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like something a little

1701
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 6: like a variation where it's not like so yeah exactly,

1702
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:18,520
Speaker 6: but he really.

1703
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: Is your writer or I I feel like he's been

1704
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: in every era, every era.

1705
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 6: We are so close. I am obsessed with him. I

1706
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 6: don't know what I would do without him. He's my

1707
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 6: heart and soul.

1708
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: You need that person too, Like it's just like that

1709
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: you can be truly honest with yes, Like like we

1710
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: need to step away from a second, like even in

1711
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: a small community of people that I do trust like

1712
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: you need your person.

1713
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 6: He is my person that Like before Jordan and I

1714
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 6: got together, I would call in the middle of the

1715
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 6: night and be like, hey, I'm lonely and like you

1716
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 6: don't have to say anything back, but I just need

1717
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 6: to express like how sad I am right now. And

1718
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 6: he would be there for me in the middle of

1719
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 6: the night and be like, let's talk about it, and

1720
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 6: like that's the kind of friendship that everyone needs.

1721
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 4: I think you are so incredibly lucky to even have

1722
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 4: that thing, because there it's not that I don't even

1723
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 4: love my sister, but it's like I'm like, I'm not

1724
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 4: gonna bother me now with this. Like we've all had

1725
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 4: these lonely moments at night where I'm.

1726
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, well you can.

1727
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 4: I know.

1728
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 2: I know that. It's like careful what you wish for, girl,

1729
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm wishing. Oh I love that. But it's like that's

1730
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: a that's a really hard thing to find.

1731
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: He's just mad because I used to call him years

1732
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 1: ago when I used to wait tables and I would

1733
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: I would get off my shift and we'd have a

1734
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: couple drinks after work and I'd call him to call

1735
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: me an uber because I wouldn't download it on my phone.

1736
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: I didn't think it could download. So whenever he thinks

1737
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: of me and the concept of calling later at night,

1738
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: he's like, oh he needs an uber. Well that was

1739
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: a decade ago, when I'm much more together.

1740
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 2: Now we've all grown up. We're past it.

1741
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 6: I have a lot of amazing friends in my life,

1742
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 6: but I have this core group of best friends and

1743
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 6: I mean I could list them off, but they're just

1744
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 6: like they're I had so many bridesmaids in my wedding

1745
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 6: because I have so many close, close, close best friends,

1746
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 6: and that support is just like what gets me through life.

1747
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 6: Like I just I love my friends so much.

1748
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 2: That wedding was fucking chic.

1749
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 6: Thank you. Oh my god, did me look so handsome?

1750
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 6: One I do?

1751
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: And you look at how you like Emanate what you

1752
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: talk about him.

1753
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: Well, you've always had one of the best smiles. I'll

1754
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: never forget when when I first saw you, my first

1755
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: thought was like, oh my god, that girl's smile is I.

1756
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 6: Used to be really insecure about my smile. I used

1757
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 6: to joke that it eats my face because it's so big,

1758
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 6: and it like just like takes over and no.

1759
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: It's like it's such a it's it's like you really

1760
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: carry the light when you smile.

1761
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 6: So you really do. I've learned to appreciate my smile

1762
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 6: because there were times where I wasn't smiling and that

1763
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 6: was sad. And now I'm like, you know, like you

1764
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 6: tell me, that's just what I was talking about. I

1765
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 6: appreciate that too.

1766
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's that's I guess what's so

1767
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: great about like the phase of your career that you're

1768
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 1: in and what other people, like other people that we've

1769
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: all watched for now going on like twenty years and

1770
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: because we're like a little bit older than you, but

1771
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: still like that was like our generation of like you know,

1772
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: personal we watched on TV and then transitioned into this

1773
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: new stage of the career. And I think like we do,

1774
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 1: like as fans of yours, share like a knowledge of

1775
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: everything you've been through. And that's why it's like to

1776
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: see you having fun is like a huge gift because

1777
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: I always remember that girl I first saw smiling and

1778
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: so like it's just great to see you smile again

1779
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: about your husband and about this project. Yeah, because when

1780
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: I think of you, I think of a huge like

1781
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: smile that.

1782
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, the us that's so sweet, Thank

1783
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 6: you so much.

1784
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 2: This is.

1785
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: Wait, how do you feel?

1786
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 2: Is not something she decided?

1787
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 6: I didn't decide, and I was like, where did that

1788
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 6: come from? It was kind of confusing to me. I

1789
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 6: was like, are you an addict or are you like.

1790
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:22,520
Speaker 2: An alcohol don't it's some sort.

1791
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 6: Of but I've embraced it and I've learned to love it.

1792
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 6: But at first I was like, huh because it looks

1793
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 6: at the beginning of like stand names. Yeah, kind of

1794
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 6: when everyone came up with it, I was like, I

1795
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 6: think I was like I was in treatment and they

1796
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 6: were like, yeah, your fans are calling you levotics now,

1797
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 6: and I was like, wait.

1798
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 2: Are they reading?

1799
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,480
Speaker 6: Are the reading?

1800
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 2: Is this coming from a nasty place? Because it's not

1801
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: the right time.

1802
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 6: It's not the right time. But I came out and

1803
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 6: everyone had like a stand name and I and I

1804
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 6: was a sign run and I was like, I'll take

1805
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 6: it whatever.

1806
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,440
Speaker 2: Remember Kelly is a calibrity.

1807
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: No. It was terrible, what so this is how you

1808
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: know that? Like I was in deep because one day

1809
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: like the Kelly Clarkson message boards.

1810
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I was a little gay child. Hi, my my

1811
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 2: name is Matt.

1812
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,520
Speaker 1: But they were like, we're Calibrity.

1813
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: This isn't the Callibrity group.

1814
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: And even me at the time, who would have done anything.

1815
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: I was just like, I don't like this.

1816
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 4: Hold up, yeah yeah yeah, but Levtic we can make

1817
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 4: peace with.

1818
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 6: I mean, is there really a good fan base? Navy

1819
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 6: is really monsters, little monster you should.

1820
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: Get to a vote.

1821
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 4: You should for now they're called Levats, But like everybody like, well,

1822
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think, like you guys, I'm gonna

1823
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 4: give you options and then you guys come up with

1824
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 4: the right one, you know what I mean.

1825
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 6: I don't know. I think it would make a lot

1826
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 6: of people upset.

1827
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we adjusted to the name Levatic years ago. We did.

1828
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 6: That's what everyone.

1829
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: No one wanted to do it.

1830
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean, no one said mething. We

1831
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: could have been called the the I don't know.

1832
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 2: But what's the Navy thing? The force? The force?

1833
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 4: We keep adding going too hard on military names.

1834
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: So everybody, you don't have to be Marine in selected

1835
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: all them. You can be Levons. Okay, Well, I think

1836
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: it may be time and you're gonna need it because

1837
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna transition into I don't think so, honey. This

1838
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: is our sixty second segment on this podcast where we

1839
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: take something in culture that bugs us, that bothers us,

1840
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: and more and we absolutely let it rip.

1841
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 2: I have something.

1842
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: It's the season and I'm starting to see something pop

1843
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: up again and I want to put it to bed

1844
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: right now.

1845
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 2: Okay, you have your phone on here, so I think

1846
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: you should time all the time. Okay, so this is

1847
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 2: well you say, you say the key, this is Matt Rogers.

1848
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. As time starts now.

1849
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Anyone making fun of me

1850
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: for pumpkin spice. You're ten years late on this read. Okay,

1851
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,799
Speaker 1: basic girls drink pumpkin spice. Thing happened already.

1852
01:27:58,920 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: Now you sound based.

1853
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: I am still here. I'm still queer. I'm still the one.

1854
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: I've always been a pumpkin spice person. And yes I

1855
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: do get it in a frap, and I know that

1856
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: makes it more basic. But I don't think so honey.

1857
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: Your comments penetrating me.

1858
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: I rubber glue, babe. I don't think so honey.

1859
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: Anyone telling me anything about pumpkin spice, whether it comes

1860
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: in the form of coffee, whether it comes in the

1861
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: form of muffin, It honestly is the best flavor.

1862
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 2: Come for me. Apple cmon beats it, Apple beats it.

1863
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 2: Blueberry get lost.

1864
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but this chocold that blueberry flavor has on

1865
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, culture. No, it is about pumpkin spice. And

1866
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: I think we fucked up by making it seasonal. It

1867
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: should be all year round. Then it would be amazing thing.

1868
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't have this nightmare of every season.

1869
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 2: Oh, here comes the basic pumpkin spice girl is again. Yeah,

1870
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: here I am and I don't think so, honey. And

1871
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 2: that's one minute.

1872
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 6: My god, that was so good. How do I tell

1873
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 6: that you?

1874
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 2: Are you doing in your own way?

1875
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 6: My god, I'm intimidated now.

1876
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: But do you know what?

1877
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: Are you a pumpkin spice person? Yes?

1878
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 4: Come on, something that has only been able, the only

1879
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 4: way that's been able to save SNL writers some nights

1880
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 4: when we write on Tuesdays, A fucking pumpkin spice rappuccino.

1881
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, it makes you happy.

1882
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 2: The endorphins are soaring when you're drinking one of those.

1883
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's delics so good.

1884
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 2: Everybody, everybody cut it out and I.

1885
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Just it's like, you know, we just got our little

1886
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: first nip a fall and already like people taken to

1887
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: their stories like it's the first time anyone's ever said this. No,

1888
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've I'm true to this.

1889
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 2: Quickly we forget You're You're not new to this, You're true.

1890
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: No, I've been down here, out and proud and I'm sorry,

1891
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 1: but I still sam Okay, are you ready?

1892
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 2: I am ready? Okay, this is Bone Yang's I don't

1893
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 2: think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

1894
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,799
Speaker 4: We didn't have a song of the summers when Fast

1895
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 4: by Debbie Levada was right fucking there.

1896
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 1: You me the eye line?

1897
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:57,560
Speaker 2: How dare you?

1898
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 4: She's giving you incredible vision, vocals and completely serving kunt

1899
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 4: while chaos is around her, explosions and more.

1900
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: You were being fed a feast.

1901
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 6: That was nutritious, ethically made.

1902
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 4: Gorgeously performed, and still you're like pushing your plate away, going,

1903
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1904
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 2: We didn't get served dinner tonight.

1905
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 4: Second given something so premium, and now that it's the Fall,

1906
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 4: and now that this album it's not that deepest coming out,

1907
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 4: this is your second chance at redeeming your little mind

1908
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 4: and understanding that you've been given something incredible. Fifties stream

1909
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 4: it now October twenty fourth, or whenever this comes out,

1910
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:38,799
Speaker 4: do it today.

1911
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 2: I'm telling you you won't regret it.

1912
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 4: It's got banger after banger and it ends in one

1913
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 4: perfect battle that ties the whole album sonically together.

1914
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 2: And we are so lucky to have Demi la Vado

1915
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: here on our podcast. That's one minute.

1916
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was amazing and also that was mine.

1917
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 2: Wow, I know.

1918
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 3: Your version?

1919
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 2: Do your version? Care?

1920
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 6: Are you ready?

1921
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 2: Yes? This is Demul. I don't think so howney, your

1922
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 2: time starts now.

1923
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 6: I don't think so honey. There's no song of the summer.

1924
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 6: What are you talking about? Not only that I release fast,

1925
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 6: thank you very much, but there's so many incredible songs

1926
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 6: that came out this summer with all the pop girlies

1927
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 6: having their moments. I mean, you've got a Della Della

1928
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 6: who I stand so hard. You've got Gaga, You've got Sabrina,

1929
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,480
Speaker 6: You've got Tate McCrae, You've got Kasha, You've got Kim Petres,

1930
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:35,759
Speaker 6: you've got Kate Pantherss. You've got all these incredible, incredible artists.

1931
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 6: And that's just like the tip of the iceberg. I

1932
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 6: could keep going about how incredible these pop girlies are

1933
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 6: and so inspiring to me. But what do you I

1934
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 6: think there's you get stuck on. Everyone has brain rotten

1935
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 6: now and they can't think past the thirty second tik

1936
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 6: talk mark, which I totally relate.

1937
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: I want to talk to but five seconds.

1938
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 6: But there was Songs of the Summer, and if you

1939
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 6: are looking for one, just streams as.

1940
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so honey, that is Demi Levado tearing it up.

1941
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 4: Like I was gonna say, like, oh my god, you

1942
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 4: not you lifting up all these girlies, Like that's so

1943
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:13,799
Speaker 4: special and beautiful.

1944
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 6: Well they deserve their shine.

1945
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1946
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:20,919
Speaker 1: Also, you know what like Fast incredible, like man Child incredible,

1947
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 1: Like no one really talked about.

1948
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 2: No Broke Boys as the song of the s.

1949
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: And even like when people online make those lists of

1950
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 1: like here's everything it could have been, and it's like

1951
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: this this list, it's like No brook Boys isn't even

1952
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: on any of that. I'm like, did it come out

1953
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 1: too soon?

1954
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 2: As it came out?

1955
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, technically came out on She's album last year, which

1956
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 4: maybe people are there's no cutoff, there's no cutoff.

1957
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 6: Cool for the Summer came back ten years later with

1958
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 6: a Vengeance.

1959
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, here we got I was paying a speed up

1960
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 2: version too, and people.

1961
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 6: Loved it, so like there's no time limit on this stuff.

1962
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: No, you have had like one, are you like aware

1963
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 1: that sorry Not Sorry is the best drag racelip think

1964
01:32:58,720 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: of all time?

1965
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 6: Like, no, I'm aware, I'm fully aware. I gagged just

1966
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 6: like the.

1967
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,799
Speaker 1: Way that they were tearing themselves apart.

1968
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 6: It was so fucking good.

1969
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they ended up being the top two, right,

1970
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 4: But it's like they they're not able to do that

1971
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 4: unless you supply the vocal thank you, you're motivating them.

1972
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:16,560
Speaker 2: To fucking do that.

1973
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 6: I still go back and watch that performance.

1974
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say this, A lot of my

1975
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: friends are looking forward to my drag performance of Here

1976
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: All Night based on what I do.

1977
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it is like.

1978
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 2: What I was I doing.

1979
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: I was like running and going and then like I

1980
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 1: have to see one of these days into some look

1981
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 1: that references or does not reverence who knows, but like, yeah, no,

1982
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: that song is like it's built into the track and

1983
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm like I was looking at So Brett played it

1984
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 1: for us. We were working on our award show and

1985
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: he's producing songs for it. He was like, I can

1986
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 1: play you the single that I Think is going to

1987
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: be the single. It wasn't decided yet, but I can

1988
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: play it for you guys once we're like sure it

1989
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: and so listening to it, I was just like you

1990
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: really gave the Queen something to chew on here. There's

1991
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: so much like movement in it and energy into it

1992
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: and like stings that yes, fun, Yes.

1993
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 6: It's so fun to sing like I can't wait to

1994
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 6: perform that one live.

1995
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I'm excited about that because you have

1996
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: not performed a live yet. No, yes, fresh out. See

1997
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 1: it's weird because like we've had the album now for

1998
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 1: several weeks, so already I'm like off book on a lot.

1999
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh god, I know that we know the words. It's

2000
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 2: it's been in the that thank you.

2001
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 1: This is going to be a monster.

2002
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 6: I'm so excited about Kiss.

2003
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 2: That has to be a single?

2004
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 1: Right, well, I never know because like sometimes it's like

2005
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 1: at least it used.

2006
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 2: To be in the old days.

2007
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you agree as being one of the girls, like

2008
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: it felt like if you put out two singles that

2009
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: were really up tempo, the third one like had to

2010
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: give more of like introspective ballad moment, especially when you're

2011
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: you and can serve that you it's I guess you

2012
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: don't feel I'm gonna tell.

2013
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 6: Y'all the next single when we're off the air, and

2014
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 6: I want to hear your thoughts kind of.

2015
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 2: It could be so many things. So excited, Yeah, I think.

2016
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 6: I think I have my my next single planned, but

2017
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 6: there's also a moment for what the fans really want.

2018
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 6: We're trying to like figure out what that looks like. Yeah,

2019
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 6: so we'll see.

2020
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: It's good that you're not being rigid about it.

2021
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 6: Then yeah, I'm really not Has.

2022
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 1: That ever happened in the past, Like where one song

2023
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: because I have to tell you, I put on my

2024
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 1: story the other day just tell me you love me.

2025
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 1: I was like this album, like revisit it just because

2026
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 1: I was revisiting it, and the number of people that

2027
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 1: responded being like daddy issues, Oh my god, Yes, that

2028
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 1: song has its gripts and people, even all these years later, like,

2029
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,600
Speaker 1: have have the fans response ever fully.

2030
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 2: Dictated a single choice?

2031
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, has happened.

2032
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 6: Yes, I would say, like give your heart a break?

2033
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 6: Really really that one too, Like I didn't actually want

2034
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 6: to release that as a single. I was like, it's

2035
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 6: a cute pop song, but like I don't know that

2036
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 6: I want to go and promote give your Heart a

2037
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 6: Break as like my single, like you have to do

2038
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 6: all the time, you have to do it all the time.

2039
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 6: And I was like, I don't know that I feel

2040
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 6: super strongly about this, but the fan reaction was really great,

2041
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 6: and so we were like, let's try it, and it

2042
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 6: ended up being my first like big radio song.

2043
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

2044
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 6: So really glad that I went with that one.

2045
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's worth it to listen to I guess what

2046
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are essensibly going.

2047
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: To be the people listening are.

2048
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, but daddyish is though. I mean, no one's ever wailed,

2049
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 4: no one's ever wailed on the word therapy.

2050
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 6: Insane to I have to go back and listen to it.

2051
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 6: I haven't heard it in so long.

2052
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 2: You'll be proud of yourself.

2053
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 6: Thank you.

2054
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 2: It really was.

2055
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: It's like you don't expect it to go there either,

2056
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 1: and so when it does, you're kind of like, is

2057
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: that thing we said earlier? Of like I'm laughing because

2058
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that to be the hit, but also

2059
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: like yeah, real real, yeah.

2060
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 2: We all have them, we got them. This has been

2061
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:13,839
Speaker 2: a spectacular episode.

2062
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 6: It's over, no no.

2063
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 2: Keeping you because you're going to watch what happens like right,

2064
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 2: I am. That's gonna be fun.

2065
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 4: We do okay, okay, okay, quick thoughts, quick thoughts. I

2066
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 4: hope some dreams going into the thing we have tonight.

2067
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 4: As of this recording, uh, this new season have been out,

2068
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 4: we'll have been out, but we have not seen them yet.

2069
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 2: What do you what do you? What do you think?

2070
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 6: I I love all of them. I have my opinions about.

2071
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: All of that.

2072
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 2: Of course, do you keep them to close?

2073
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 6: To keep them close to my chest? I don't want

2074
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 6: to be mean, but like we have opinions. You know,

2075
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 6: they're they're you know, yes. But I will say that

2076
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 6: I met Meredith Marks at the Paper Magazine party. She

2077
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 6: was so fab is gorgeous, gorgeous, love her. And I'm

2078
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 6: meeting Angie k tonight, which I'm we are so excited

2079
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 6: about it.

2080
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: To tell Angie that you were with us today. I

2081
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: will because actually her first watch for Mappens Life was

2082
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:21,440
Speaker 1: with her, okay.

2083
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 4: And it was a really special woman because she was

2084
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 4: so nervous and I was just there to like just

2085
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 4: kind of like calm her down, and like I think

2086
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 4: we've formed like a lifelong connection.

2087
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm so happy you were my first time.

2088
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 2: She's going to be so excited to you.

2089
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 6: I'm so excited. I feel like I hope she's wearing

2090
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 6: her sunglasses.

2091
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think it's a high probability.

2092
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 4: Amazing, incredible, tough to be both an Angie Stan and

2093
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 4: Emeritith Stan because you know you're like but those are

2094
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 4: the reason those two work as like rivals is because

2095
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 4: they're just equally beloved and you are just kind of

2096
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 4: like they're both iconic.

2097
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 6: But I feel like no matter who's fighting, like I

2098
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 6: have a different favorite every week, you know what I'm saying,

2099
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 6: Like it changes, you know what I mean. And they're

2100
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 6: and they're all fighting with.

2101
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 1: Each other, and it's like five episodes in a row.

2102
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'm Whitney Rose. I'm running so hard

2103
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:12,759
Speaker 1: for Whitney Rose. And then there'll be a sext episode

2104
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: like Whitney Rose see, and then the next episode will

2105
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: be like Whitney Rose Lover Lover. You'll see now that

2106
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: you because we've met them a few times, because we're

2107
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: around the same stuff, like often with the Bravo and everything.

2108
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 2: Yes, they're amazing.

2109
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: Once you meet them, it becomes incredibly hard to form

2110
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: like a critical opinion of them because that's my friend.

2111
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 6: Yes, Like, now I feel like I'm going to have

2112
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 6: this connection to them, and I can't say my opinions

2113
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 6: that I may have had when I first watched the show,

2114
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I'm That's why

2115
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 6: I don't want to like say any of my opinions

2116
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:47,680
Speaker 6: that I had, because I don't you know what I mean.

2117
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 2: So I'm sure Andy's going to ask you about them tonight.

2118
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 3: He will.

2119
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2120
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 4: I think they also understand that they're like they're they're

2121
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 4: being put on the spot, and like we don't hold

2122
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 4: it against them. I've said things in the past about

2123
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 4: certain half sites who like have since been like, oh, totally,

2124
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 4: it's fine, Like I get it.

2125
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 2: We're on a TV show, you know what I mean.

2126
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: So that's good. I mean, it was like the start

2127
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: of a beautiful relationship we now have with Lisa Rena.

2128
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: One time we were on watching What Happens Live and

2129
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: they were asking about Rinna and I was just like,

2130
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,560
Speaker 1: I wish she wouldn't do this, this, this, And she

2131
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 1: got in the DMS and she was like, hey, I

2132
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: didn't like that comment, and I was like, Lisa, I

2133
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 1: only made it because I feel like I know you

2134
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 1: pera socially and I apologize.

2135
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 2: I was like, you are right, I was out of line,

2136
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 2: et cetera. She came to our Cultural Awards crush. Now

2137
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 2: we're friends. She's been on the show.

2138
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 3: Amazing.

2139
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 6: That's great.

2140
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,719
Speaker 2: So it had a happy ending. Thank you for staying these.

2141
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 6: Extra just to get out like yes, yes, yes, yes.

2142
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 1: You need you need to get married at the time

2143
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 1: you brooks Marks.

2144
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I need I need a track suit.

2145
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 2: I met brooks too.

2146
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 6: He was so sweet.

2147
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah he's great.

2148
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 1: But that track shoot is comfy. And for my gig

2149
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,600
Speaker 1: guys out there, it like lifts and it like it

2150
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: like gives you like it's really it looks good in

2151
01:40:56,200 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: your ass's saying brooks Marks knows something. I guess that'll

2152
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: be my last thought. If we love you, congratulations, love

2153
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 1: you two.

2154
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. This so so fun.

2155
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 2: We end every episode with a song, the song of

2156
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 2: the Summer.

2157
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: I want to go fast, I wanta go hard, I

2158
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,520
Speaker 1: wanna go anywhere anywhere.

2159
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 2: And if you want to hear that song much better

2160
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 2: and a single go forth, Bye Bye, yay.

2161
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,839
Speaker 4: Lost Culture Reach This is the production by Will Ferrell's

2162
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 4: Big Money Players and I Heart Radio.

2163
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 1: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang,

2164
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:41,640
Speaker 1: executive produced by Anna Hasby and produced by Becker Ramos.

2165
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 2: Edited and mixed by Doug Bame. And our music is

2166
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:44,799
Speaker 2: by Henry Murski