WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Run/Pass Balance?

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<v Speaker 1>The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Wednesday, September fifteenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, Episode

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<v Speaker 1>number twenty one. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break,

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<v Speaker 1>live in the SWBC Mortgage studios. At the start, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot we're gonna get into today. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about some topics that came up

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the week when the Cowboys coordinators, offensive, defensive,

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<v Speaker 1>special teams had their press conference. There were a few

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<v Speaker 1>topics that I thought were interesting they will dissect. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>also get into a little talk on the Chargers offense

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<v Speaker 1>versus the Cowboys defense. We got Bucky Brooks joining us

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<v Speaker 1>in the second segment. He'll answer some questions and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and give us some scouting review on the team the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys will face on Sunday. Uh and and we'll maybe

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<v Speaker 1>get to some questions. We'll see how it goes. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much Dave and Nick want to talk today,

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<v Speaker 1>but if they don't talk as much, then we'll maybe

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<v Speaker 1>get to some questions. We'll see. I take offense to that,

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<v Speaker 1>But why do you take offense? It's not a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the fact you guys talk. That's good. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why people tune in. All right, whatever, Okay, all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's go. Come on, let's go. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk today coordinator press conferences. Let's start first, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>you had an interesting question for uh for for um

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive for the offensive coordinator um. You asked him

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<v Speaker 1>about the disparity run versus past. What was his answer

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<v Speaker 1>and what did you think of it? It's and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a controversy, but it's just it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of rankled me here over the last week

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<v Speaker 1>because you see differing opinions about the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys played that. But essentially, I asked Kellen, you know

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<v Speaker 1>they famously threw fifty eight times and ran whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, fourteen or fifteen, and Kellen even said they

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<v Speaker 1>checked out of half of their run calls from the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just asked him, you know, it's it's so

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<v Speaker 1>easy to put it into boxes of like throwing verse running,

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<v Speaker 1>like Zeke hast to hit this magic number, or we didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't balanced enough. And I was like, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>look at it that way, do you. It's a much

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<v Speaker 1>more collective approach. And he went into this whole spiel

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<v Speaker 1>about He's like, yeah, I mean, I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>it says on the stat sheet. I mean, we threw

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<v Speaker 1>a quote unquote pass to Tony Pollard that traveled four

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<v Speaker 1>inches out of Dak's hands, and that counts as a pass,

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<v Speaker 1>but he picked up nine yards on it, and we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it. We've talked about it a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they few They threw at least three or

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<v Speaker 1>four smoke screens in that game, just getting the ball out,

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<v Speaker 1>and it counts as a pass, but it's effectively a run.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that approach. I love the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen moore and it's one game. It's a small sample size.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what worries me, honestly, is that Zeke is

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<v Speaker 1>a ninety million dollar player, and you worry that the

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<v Speaker 1>team would feel pressure to feed him because of who

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<v Speaker 1>he is, and that was not the case on Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a wonderful thing. And I, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it kind of rankles me when people are like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Zekes go to good as torches. You gotta no, you

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<v Speaker 1>do it. It's smart attack the defense in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that presents the best opportunity for success. And I've thought

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<v Speaker 1>about this over the last week is it reminds maybe

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<v Speaker 1>my least favorite game in the time that I've covered

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<v Speaker 1>this team is the twenty nineteen Vikings game. Pissed me

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<v Speaker 1>off so much because they kept running into that defense

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<v Speaker 1>on first and second and long and putting themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>situations and Dad kept bailing them out, only for them

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to the run at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the game and it costs them in the game. It

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<v Speaker 1>was awful coaching, and so it was really encouraging to

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<v Speaker 1>see them do the opposite. I've been talking for five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes now, but it's something that I clearly feel passionately

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<v Speaker 1>about the It's interesting you mentioned that DAK changed a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those plays. Nick. I think you said at

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<v Speaker 1>twelve of the past plays that it will call pass plays.

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<v Speaker 1>DAK checked at the line of scrimmage, just playing Devil's advocate,

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<v Speaker 1>because I personally believe, hey, do what's best when you

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<v Speaker 1>get to line scrimmage. If you need to check them

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<v Speaker 1>and you check them all to passes, if that's a

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<v Speaker 1>better look, go for it. But being Devil's advocate here,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that could become problematic as the season

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<v Speaker 1>goes on if your offensive coordinators really wanting to establish

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<v Speaker 1>a run and sometimes you're running into situations where you

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<v Speaker 1>know you may not get a lot, but you do

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<v Speaker 1>need to keep balance. Do you in those instances think

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<v Speaker 1>that could be a little problem Yeah. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's problematic. I think that's just being

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's advocate. I think that it is. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you're not just going to run into a

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<v Speaker 1>brick wall if it's not there. If it's not there,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just doing it for the sake of running it

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<v Speaker 1>to try to, you know, keep them honest. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I agree with that, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that you know, certain plays, those those design screens,

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<v Speaker 1>bubble screens and all that that are really just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to to you know, move the chains in a different

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<v Speaker 1>way and spread them out. They don't work as well

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<v Speaker 1>down by the goal line. So I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to establish that you have to run because

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<v Speaker 1>or you're just gonna kick field goals. And they did,

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<v Speaker 1>and they and they didn't win that way, this way

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<v Speaker 1>of Dak of carrying the team and throwing in all

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<v Speaker 1>these yards. I mean they're two and four. They're two

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<v Speaker 1>and four the last six games that Dak has started.

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<v Speaker 1>He keeps them in a game, but it has to

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<v Speaker 1>start flipping the other way, and it hasn't yet. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's amazing. I think he's playing out of

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<v Speaker 1>his mind. But I think they need a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more balanced, and especially when it gets down to the

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<v Speaker 1>goal line, they're gonna have to figure out wheys to score.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's just him throwing to a Marii Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>if they can figure that out, then they'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, they gotta figure out ways to score.

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<v Speaker 1>I think running the ball will help them do that.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say balance, what do you mean? I think

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<v Speaker 1>balance as far as is run, not not just run past,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the amount of runs, but is where you

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<v Speaker 1>where do you utilize your yards in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the field. I mean, you have to like keep them

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<v Speaker 1>off offset a little bit because you can keep throwing

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<v Speaker 1>it to the wide sides and all that, but it

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<v Speaker 1>gets tightened up down there. I mean, eventually you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to You're gonna have to work the middle, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they will. I think this is an anomaly game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in a lot of ways, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>face a quarterback like that. You're not gonna face a

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<v Speaker 1>defense like that. So I want to see more. I

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<v Speaker 1>said this on the radio. I want to see more

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<v Speaker 1>games because Tampa was so unique to what I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to see most of the year. But didn't

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<v Speaker 1>they do that? If I'm if I'm remembering as correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have much much better photographic memories of points

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<v Speaker 1>and games. But it seemed like they were in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone this last game. And I thought on first

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<v Speaker 1>down they ran Zeke, and then on second down Dak

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<v Speaker 1>ran the ball. Is that accurate? And then they and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if they got an end zone

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<v Speaker 1>on that drive, but it did seem like they ran

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<v Speaker 1>so both with Dak and with Zeke in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 1>It still didn't necessarily mean that they got in the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone every time they were in the red zone, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they got in the red zone is it

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<v Speaker 1>three times and scored one. They scored one out of four,

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<v Speaker 1>one touchdown out of four. I'm looking at it. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for the compliment. My memory is not that amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean much better at that than I. They

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<v Speaker 1>threw three straight times on the missed field goal by Zerline.

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<v Speaker 1>They did try. No, actually they went um. They threw

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<v Speaker 1>three straight times on the right after the quick change

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<v Speaker 1>turnover by Treyvon Diggs. Yeah, then, which I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that was like you probably ought to

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<v Speaker 1>do a little bit off the different goal. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with that. And then they did try to run

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<v Speaker 1>on the long drive at the beginning of the third

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<v Speaker 1>quarter and the obviously and some of that's execution, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like they did, they did try it, and that's um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know somebody, I think somebody asked us about that

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week and I was like, that was a

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<v Speaker 1>great play call. You can get Jarwin's got a block.

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<v Speaker 1>Seke's got to do something better. I mean, it is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is like. You can do everything, you can

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<v Speaker 1>make every right decision up until the snap, and it

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<v Speaker 1>still won't work. If you don't do what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You know. What's what's amazing kind of from

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<v Speaker 1>an ironic standpoint, where we were a month ago, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out in California and worried about this and that when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to deck, it's just if somebody would have

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<v Speaker 1>been like, oh, don't worry about the ankle. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll run through it four times and and he'll run

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<v Speaker 1>an option on the gold line. They're fine. The shoulder,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll throw a fifty eight passes against the bucks and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be fine. You know, don't worry about it. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be okay. That's what he said. That what he said, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he said, and I think everybody else in

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<v Speaker 1>the country was trying to, i mean, paying a different

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<v Speaker 1>stories say this all the time that like next year,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna fall for this. We're not gonna fall

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<v Speaker 1>for the bawn on the tailpipe. You know, we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not We're not gonna do that. Like like if

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<v Speaker 1>they say that they're hurt, it's probably not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's training camp. And then we do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>fall for it because if we gotta, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna write about this and that, but like next year,

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<v Speaker 1>when a guy gets pulled out for one little thing,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna be like, ah, it's probably not nothing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you go back two years ago, you just

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<v Speaker 1>got it that with with case by case basis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just you just never know. But I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't make a habit of doubting Z. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Dak when he says something when it comes to that,

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<v Speaker 1>because what we've seen is when he says I'm good,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be out there and and I will I

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<v Speaker 1>will follow that. I guess at this point, can I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of throw this out there. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>said this, I'm talking about the last two seasons. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got one game, we've got five that Dak played and

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<v Speaker 1>they and I said, you know they're they're two and four.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not blaming Dak. I'm saying this, this

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<v Speaker 1>style of play, it doesn't necessarily is not conducive to wins,

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<v Speaker 1>because both of those two wins were last second place.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there are teams in the NFL that

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<v Speaker 1>have used that kind of formula and have one. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks played the same style of game and one they

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<v Speaker 1>ran the ball fourteen times for three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>yard Brady through fifty times. I mean, it does work.

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<v Speaker 1>The question becomes, as it worked for this team, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have the other pieces in place? Is the defense

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<v Speaker 1>good enough? Is the is the kicking game good like?

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the things. I don't know if it's necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>Dak in the style of using Dak to just throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball a lot. If that's you know, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of games that come down to the

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<v Speaker 1>last play, last field goal. I mean that that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to happen. All I'm saying is is when

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen this shift of what's the best thing they do,

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<v Speaker 1>and right now the best thing that they're doing is

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of leaning on the deck. It's been great

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<v Speaker 1>and it's if you have Dak in your fantasy team,

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<v Speaker 1>you're loving it. But it doesn't necessarily mean that they're

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<v Speaker 1>winning games yet, and that that that could be for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different things. That's it's it's funny. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that Thursday night was a truer showing of what they

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<v Speaker 1>can do in my opinion, because again, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>Dak played five games, but it was such it was

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<v Speaker 1>so weird. I mean, getting down minus three in turnover

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<v Speaker 1>to differential, like probably three out of the five times

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<v Speaker 1>they played. That's not normal, but that's not normal by

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<v Speaker 1>any teams standards, and that is you know, going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact that they're not going to have Lyelle.

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<v Speaker 1>I have faith in Dak to make this work because

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<v Speaker 1>of how much he's grown as a quarterback, but having

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<v Speaker 1>an iffy offensive tackle opens you up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>for turnovers. I mean, Cleveland's a great Terrence Steele gave

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<v Speaker 1>up a sack in that Browns game that I believe

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<v Speaker 1>Dak fumbled it right, Yeah, changed, Yeah, it changed the

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<v Speaker 1>course of it. It really where it started to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get away from him. And that's I don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>about Dak having time or making throws and that type

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. I think he can keep things going. But

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<v Speaker 1>that does give me pause because it was the turnover

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<v Speaker 1>problems that really it was that that sank them more

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<v Speaker 1>than the way that they were calling their offense last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So they, you know, credit Kellen Moore in the offense

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<v Speaker 1>is sorry, this is what we've got. We know what

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<v Speaker 1>we've got here in the interior, we know what they've got.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna We're gonna do these things on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it. Is it gonna be as tough in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle at San Diego? I'm sorry, dang it, it's over Wednesday. Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>dang it, Chargers defense, and uh no, it's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a stout in the middle, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get an all pro guard back in there with

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin. So I think they can. They can maybe

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball a little bit more, be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more balanced in the play calling of of where

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<v Speaker 1>they distribute the ball. I'll be surprised if it's that

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<v Speaker 1>skewed again this week. Yeah, But but you know, games

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<v Speaker 1>take a life of their own, and that's that's that

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<v Speaker 1>game did that, Like you said, the Bucks played that way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, back and forth, and it was just an

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<v Speaker 1>entertaining game it was, which I agree with you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny though, because again going back to when Dak was healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>like of the game's Dak has played in the McCarthy era,

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<v Speaker 1>I think somebody every week, somebody gets up there and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, it's a weird game. I'm like, when

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna play a normal game? Right when a

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote yeah, Like, when are you gonna play a

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<v Speaker 1>game that's not weird, Like they all sort of follow

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<v Speaker 1>a bizarre script when you really boil it, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams game Week one maybe even no, no, no, no, no no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't call that one not weird, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>the strangest thing I've ever heard of a football game

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<v Speaker 1>other than maybe a junior high game, where you just

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<v Speaker 1>just because nobody was there, nobody like CD caught like

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty yard pass and no one't even you just

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<v Speaker 1>hear CD lamb on the catch, like, oh yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was so that one was weird. Atlanta, I mean, top

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<v Speaker 1>five weird all time. You know, Cleveland that was pretty weird,

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<v Speaker 1>Top five weird all times. Seattle was a Seattle was

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<v Speaker 1>weird too. Tony Pollard put him behind the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he put him in the hole with the safety pay

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<v Speaker 1>the Diggs play. Yeah, Tyler Lockett had a thirty burger

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<v Speaker 1>and fantasy by the second quarter in game. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole reding was weird. I mean the whole season really,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, those those games, particularly twenty twenty was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weird, just a g little weird, a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna take our first break. Go ahead, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>you guess him, No, I just now, I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still weird, but just we're just normal weird. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't even know if that means,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sounds about right right. Were gonna take our

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<v Speaker 1>What up, Bucky? How you going good? Good? It's time

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little insight on these chargers first. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to that, though, I'd love for you just

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<v Speaker 1>to give me kind of a quick review of your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the Cowboys versus Buccaneers really interesting because the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys say much better than I anticipated in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a pretty game for them, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they adapted and adjusted the hand of the energy I've

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the defending champions about Dak Prescott was very

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<v Speaker 1>impressive getting the ball out of his hand um. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the football world got a chance to see why

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<v Speaker 1>some have touted him as a top five play at

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<v Speaker 1>the position. I think he showed all of that and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the really impressive part. Vicho Elliott won't get

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<v Speaker 1>enough credit for the job that he did and passed

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<v Speaker 1>the section, but for those who take shots to him

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<v Speaker 1>for the lack of run game production, I think his

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<v Speaker 1>value as that pass protector really showed up. And the

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<v Speaker 1>defensively they took the ball of the head four turnovers

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was a winnable game. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>are rude the job that Blake Joeward did down to

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<v Speaker 1>the goal line on the option player that should have

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<v Speaker 1>been a touchdown. But I think there's things to build on.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't have to step up a play because

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<v Speaker 1>the team they got coming on deck, it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>good team. All right, Let's move on to that team.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers tell me, as we like to start, what

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<v Speaker 1>does their offense do best and what is their greatest weakness?

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<v Speaker 1>For one, this is a well coached football team for

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<v Speaker 1>a young guy. Brandon Staley has a clear vision for

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<v Speaker 1>how he wants the team to play. They do a

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<v Speaker 1>really good job of avoiding the self inflicted team that

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<v Speaker 1>hurt teams, and then they got a lot of talent offensively.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the best thing that they do is

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<v Speaker 1>that combination of Keenan Allen and Justin Herbert is real.

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<v Speaker 1>Keiman Allen is I mean look and he going all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back. He's kind of like an N one

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<v Speaker 1>mixtape street ball artist on the perimeter. He is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a problem on the outside in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>his rout running ability and his ability to create separation.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Justin Herbert just plays the game at a

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<v Speaker 1>maturity level that it kinds beyond his years. And so

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<v Speaker 1>this is one where the Cowboys coverage and pass rush

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<v Speaker 1>has to step up because this is a passing team,

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<v Speaker 1>not a running team. What does he I know we

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<v Speaker 1>look at dynamic running backs, but you know, Austin Eckler,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a guy that kind of does so many different things,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how can he hurt Now? I know he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent healthy this last game, but how does

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<v Speaker 1>he really kind of hurt teams with his ability to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do so many different things? You know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna be friends like he

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<v Speaker 1>he's okay, you know what I'm saying. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's great. I don't think he causes like sleepless night.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the beneficiary of playing with telling the

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<v Speaker 1>troop around him and his his production is more of

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<v Speaker 1>a byproduct of teams wanting to take away other guys

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<v Speaker 1>and they will live with him doing what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>He has not been a guy that since he has

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<v Speaker 1>been given the RB one role that has really lived

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<v Speaker 1>up to expectations when it comes to it. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you let him get his space and work one on

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<v Speaker 1>one on your linebacker, your linebacker can't cover. He certainly

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<v Speaker 1>can give you problems. But as to others that were

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<v Speaker 1>you more than Austin Eckley coming out of back there,

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<v Speaker 1>So Bucky. I used to hate talking about cornerbacks traveling

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<v Speaker 1>because in the Rod Marinelli era they didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like a waste of time. But we saw

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<v Speaker 1>Treyvon Diggs go with Mike Evans a little bit last

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<v Speaker 1>week and he did an amazing job. So my question

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<v Speaker 1>to you is, do you think he's up to that

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<v Speaker 1>challenge against Keenan Allen or maybe do you try to

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<v Speaker 1>stick him with Mike Williams and sort of handle Keenan

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<v Speaker 1>Allen by committee? What are your thoughts on that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really two different thoughts on how you do

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<v Speaker 1>it right. So if you travel, you're a corner. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go good on good, meaning look, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>Traylon Digg versus Keenan Allen and you have to handle

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<v Speaker 1>him without help. I'm not sending a linebacker or safe

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<v Speaker 1>you're anybody in your direction. Or I can take Trayvon

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<v Speaker 1>Diggs and lock up your number two, double team your

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<v Speaker 1>number one and see if I can force you to

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<v Speaker 1>your third option in the passing end. Not knowing DQ

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<v Speaker 1>well enough when it comes to those that because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how he'll elect the handle of that. But

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing about traveling, look, it's easy for the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who is the traveler. It's harder for everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't have the IQ and the flexibility to

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<v Speaker 1>move around and play different things, even though it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it'd be easy, like, hey, everyone's playing a man

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<v Speaker 1>to man, but man, it's different playing inside and imposed

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<v Speaker 1>the outside. So you have to know your personnel and know,

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<v Speaker 1>am I okay with Jordan Lewis maybe having to go outside,

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm okay with Anthony Brown maybe having to play

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<v Speaker 1>in the slot if you match it up that way,

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<v Speaker 1>And so you have to feel like what gives my

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<v Speaker 1>as the best opportunity to succeed. And sometimes you may

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<v Speaker 1>flue traveling. Sometimes it may say, hey, let's play right

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<v Speaker 1>and left and just come a line up and play

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<v Speaker 1>whoever's on our side, Bucky, when you When I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and looked at some of the stats from that

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<v Speaker 1>week one game between the Chargers and the Washington football team,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers are now after one game, fifth in passing

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, and that's against one of a defense

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<v Speaker 1>that most of us believe is one of the better

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>defenses in the league. Certainly has a great pass rush,

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.000
<v Speaker 1>good defensive front. What did they do in this game?

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<v Speaker 1>What did the Chargers do in this game to have

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<v Speaker 1>success against a really really stout Washington defense. They're guys

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<v Speaker 1>the firm were better than the guy. For the Washington

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>football team, Ray shown Slater was not worried or intimidated

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.359
<v Speaker 1>or fearful of Chase Young at all, and he played

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that way very early in the game, and after a

0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:54.480
<v Speaker 1>while Washington Chase Young off of him. And so, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you have a good, a dominant blue

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<v Speaker 1>chef left tackle, it allows you to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do a bunch of different things. And the charges have

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<v Speaker 1>enough confidence that now they're able to expand the playbook

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>for Justin Herbert because they feel like he is going

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 1>to be protected. And when you do that, you get

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.160
<v Speaker 1>five out in the route. You have a quarterback who's

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>a good decision maker. They can consttely put pressure on

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the defense because they can find Walter, they can find

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the matchup that they like, and they can go to

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<v Speaker 1>it over and over again. And so because they're better

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 1>up front, and also Quinton Lindsay the center the offensive

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:31.439
<v Speaker 1>lineage echether so because the lineage better, they can do

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>more things than offer. I'm glad you mentioned rashawn S later,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't have to Bucky appreciate that. But well,

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<v Speaker 1>and going along with that, I talked about this on

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the show yesterday, they only pressure Herb. Washington only pressure

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:47.919
<v Speaker 1>Herbert five out of forty nine times the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's terrifying in its own right. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that worries me is it fair to say Herbert is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy he just I mean, he seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>play extender, Like I just feel like Dallas is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be playing a bunch of six and seven second plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that accurate? And what can they do to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of combat that and get Herbert to get rid of

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball a little bit faster. Well, it's a combination

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>injective in the Washington ball team. They really don't like

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>to bring pleasure. They're not like a blitz happy team.

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>So they're different than the Buccaneers were played. They're different

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>than the Ravens are play They're not going to challenge

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you to pick up all the exotic and the line

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<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage. If it is that with Cowboys, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>eat it up. I don't think you're good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>just line up and say, hey, we're gonna rush for

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>play seven and our guys have been in the yor guys.

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 1>I think Q has to be creative and how he

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<v Speaker 1>attacks Herbert. He has to kind of make him pass

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>some difficulty uncovering and figuring out what they're doing, and

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>some of that may be from packages, moving Michael Parsons around,

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.920
<v Speaker 1>moving people around, put in different spots, guys in different spots,

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:53.880
<v Speaker 1>so maybe they can't get the protection lined up right.

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>But you have to use some creativity to just disc

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>up the rhythm of the quarterback because Justin Herbert is

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<v Speaker 1>too good. If you're going to make this a seven

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 1>on seven game, he is going to win in those

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>games and he's already shown that as a second year player.

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, Bucky, we talked about you talk about Parsons

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>from our view or my view, I'll say I'll speak

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>for myself in the from the press box. The first

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>half looked like a Markeat looked like a rookie from

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you know this playing his first ever game against the

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>best quarterback in the world. The second game, he looked

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy that everyone's kind of expecting. Did you

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>see the same thing? What do you What did you

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>see out of Micah? Yeah? We look man. The game

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.199
<v Speaker 1>is big for rickies particularly, is a big stage, is

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>a prime time game the football world is watching. Is

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 1>different like you guysn't been arounded enough to know there's

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 1>something different about playing Thursday night, prime time, Monday night,

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Sunday night, because all eyes are on you, so it's

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>taking a while to settle ends. The second half, we

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>saw the Michael Parson that everyone wanted to see. We

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 1>saw the versatility, we saw the speed to tire of

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the explosiveness. We saw the disruptive playmaking potential. And I

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>like the combination where they had Michael Parsons and Keanomel

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>on the field at the same time. I do wonder

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 1>how they're going to continue to reshuffle the deck when

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the linebackers to put the best eleven

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>on the field. But I think Mike is going to

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>be fine. I think he has an opportunity to be

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>a difference maker, and they need him to be a

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>difference theaker just when he gives the Chargers. Let's talk

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>about the Chargers and what I think was probably their

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.360
<v Speaker 1>achilles heel in this game. If you look at the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>they averaged nine plays per drive, which was second in

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the league last year. I mean last week they average

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>forty seven yards per drive, which was fourth in the league.

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>But the only average two point two points per drive,

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>which suggests to me they moved the ball a lot

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and pretty effectively and then bogged down when it came

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<v Speaker 1>to getting the ball into the end zone. What happened

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>as far as their offense was concerned that kept them

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>from getting as many points as their yards suggests they

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe should have had a couple of them. Just saying that,

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>want about the sas that you put. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>nine and tim played and the Nastional Football League average, man,

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>it's the odds work against you. The more plays that

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>j haveb because the eyes could get something bad is

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.199
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. A ton of the negative play a

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>turnover is just hard. It's the same drive. So the

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>number one thing is they're not getting enough exclusive plays.

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>They can accumulate a lot of yards, but they're not

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>getting the chump plays because the score point in the NFL,

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to have explosive plays twenty five plus passes

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>being able to throw it outside of the rid zone

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 1>into the end zone for touchdowns. And so they go

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>from twenty to twenty. But then the red zone. The

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Washington football team plays a really good rid zone defense.

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>They used the field dimensions to the advantage. They use

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the sideline and the end zone as extra defenders, and

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>they were able to keep things in front and force

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>them to settle for field goals and those things. And

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>so it should be a defensive job. And so for

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, once again, it is understanding what are the

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>most important things that you want to take away. Keep

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball in front of the defense, don't give them

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the cheat ones. Make them earn those yards and earn

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the points. And so if they can do that, and

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>know he's made link up three hundred yards. But if

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>we can keep the twenty yard post plast page under

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<v Speaker 1>wraps and not let often Heckler anybody's leak out, I

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>think to the Cowboys defense will play one of them

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>to get a win. That's really great insight, Bucky. We

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. All right. We'll be gon. We're gonna take

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>our final break when we come back. We will be

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk a little bit more about this matchup between

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers offense and the Dallas defense. We'll have Bucky

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>back on again tomorrow. He'll break down the Chargers defense

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>versus the Cowboys offense. That's going to be a really

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>interesting matchup. We'll do that when we come right back.

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<v Speaker 1>book your appearance today. I'm so upset. It's my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>birthday today. I forgot to do that. If I was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to spend the money, wodrowdy just come to a

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<v Speaker 1>sports bar and watch football with me? Yes you think so? Yes, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's two hours. About the money you just you pay

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<v Speaker 1>him for two hours, he's gonna show, sit next to me,

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk, pose for photos with whatever. Well, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't talk. Yeah, that parts he browny, don't talk. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the other part of him kind of doing goofy stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know how you feel about that now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want him to do goosey stuff. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want him to sit on the stool next to me

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<v Speaker 1>and watch football. Well you drink it's there. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hot and sweaty in there. Yeah. I thinking he would

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I'll look in there. It would be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because when you're like especially if your team loses, because

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<v Speaker 1>if your team loses, you get into this like weird

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<v Speaker 1>funk of like, you know, the life is ending everybody, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my nihilistic side, right, So then you just turn and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, you know what, it doesn't matter. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter because because you know the ozones dying anyways. And

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<v Speaker 1>you look over and you see Browdy, You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe he sparks a little bit of you know, energy,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you want to punch him in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just love the mental image of

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<v Speaker 1>me being drunk and depressed about my bad football team

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<v Speaker 1>and Rowdy's just sitting next to me, grinning from year

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<v Speaker 1>to year with that permanent smile in space. Yeah, that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be great starring in lsu Jersey. I'll buy him one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be interesting. All right, I don't think that

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>would work, but go ahead. Everyone hates us. They want

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>us to talk about the Cowboys, all right. I did

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>want to have I had a couple of questions coming

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>out of our interview with Bucky. For you guys, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>you I think were the one that mentioned the whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea of traveling. We hadn't talked a lot about that

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>from last week? What was that day? Sorry, Dave, don't

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>have a good memory. I don't have horrible memory. I

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>absolutely have a horrible memory. Um. But that being said,

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>what would you guys do? Would you would you consider

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>traveling him this week? In future weeks, and if so

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<v Speaker 1>specifically to this week? Which which route do you tend

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to go for? Do you say take away the top

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>guy or do you say take away the second guy

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'll do it bout committee with the top guy.

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I said it earlier this week that Treyvon

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>did so great against Mike Evans. Keenan Allen is a

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>He's a similar type of player. Um, although that's probably

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>when I say that, I just mean they're both big.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how similar they're. Like, Mike Evans is

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<v Speaker 1>a big, go get the ball guy. Keenan Allen is

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<v Speaker 1>just as much of a technician as Amari Cooper in

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>terms of the way he gets open and his wingspan

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<v Speaker 1>is insane. I don't I would like to maybe I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to see more from Trayvon before I'm ready to

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>ask that of him. Maybe, And that's Bucky. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>more of Ben ask than last week? That's what I

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I think I think Keenan Allen's I think

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Keenan Allen's better player than Mike Evans. I don't know.

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I said that very unconfidently. I get. I mean, it's

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>they're both really good and he played really great. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way they want to go, I got no complaints.

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>But maybe Trayvon would do a better job of working

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>on Mike Williams and you can collectively deal with Keenan Allen.

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I could see it either way. I I didn't even

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>think this was a conversation because I didn't think Trayvon

0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Digs was good enough to take Michael Evans away like that,

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<v Speaker 1>with due respect to him. So this is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>opening my mind to a brand new set of possibilities

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that we could see as we go. You know. The

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>thing of it, and we've done this for years. It's

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of times when people ask, you know,

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>what are they gonna do? Are they gonna do this?

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna put that. You know, It's not like a

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>baseball game where you go into and you have to

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>turn in your lineup before the game. I mean, it's everything.

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It's everything. You just said, double team him, you know,

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.720
<v Speaker 1>let let Digs travel with Keenan Allen for a series

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.720
<v Speaker 1>and then and then when they sit down the sideline,

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>they're like, all right, hey, so when twenty seven follow

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>sorry he's seven. Now when seven follows you around and

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>then the next thing you know, he's on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side and you double team him. So you're gonna do

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of everything. But again, I like the

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>fact that they're doing a little bit of everything. It

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.439
<v Speaker 1>probably makes it a little more of a challenge because

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the defense has to be smart enough to adapt him

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>game to doing different things. But I think that's actually

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.919
<v Speaker 1>a better things. It's a breath of fresh air. I mean,

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Rod Marinelli just he did what he did, and he

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't like to do. He didn't like to travel, He

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>kept guys where they were, he didn't like to blitz somebody.

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>During the Raiders game, a friend of mine on Twitter

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was like the Raiders of Blitz like once, I didn't

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 1>even know this was possible, And I was like, I did.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 1>I watched Rod Marinelli coach defense for like eight years. Yeah,

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>this is what he does. They you gotta give him

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.280
<v Speaker 1>some credit. Though. They did a nice job with nour Jackson.

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>They did especially later and they did I mean they

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>won the game. I didn't mean to. I'm not throwing

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 1>too much dirt on Rod Marinelli, not on the defensive.

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Would his resume? Wait what in that game? Yeah? Yeah,

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought it wasn't. But he just he doesn't like

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the blitz. See, he wants to get home with his

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 1>front flour and Max Crosby did that a lot for

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>him the other night. Yeah. I will say this thought,

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like a broken record to say it

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>all the time. But you know when when you say, well,

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Diggs travels, If Diggs travels, Anthony Brown travels, like they

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>both travel, that's the thing like and so, yes, Diggs

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>is capable of doing it, but that means the other

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>guy has to do it as well. All right, real quick,

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>before we end the show, I did want to get

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 1>your perspectives on the linebacker position. Bucky talked a little

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>bit about it this week. Do you expect to see

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a similar um? Do you expect to see Dallas do

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a similar thing from the standpoint of how they deploy

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>their linebackers, primarily using Parsons and and Kian O'Neil, Because

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>in last week's game it was more about stopping the pass.

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. Honestly, I think Layton Vanderesh needs

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to play football. I think he needs to be out

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>on the field. I think he's a really good player

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>when he's healthy. He hasn't always been healthy, but I'm

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna give him a shot. He needs to play more.

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I think him and Parsons need to play in the nickel,

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'd put Neil in there too. He used to

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 1>play safety. Let put them all in there. Make him

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>a safety in the nickel. I think vander Esh is

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<v Speaker 1>more effective if he's out there. I don't necessarily think

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong, but I just I see it kind of

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>trend in that way where Neil and Parsons eat up

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the snaps because this league it's turning into basketball on grass.

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>It already has been, but that's not going away. Austin

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Ekeler what he does, and he actually did not catch

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 1>a pass in Week one, but I wonder how much

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>more they'll get him involved as he gets healthier. That's

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a guy that I want speed. I want speed on speed.

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I want guys who can move in space. Not saying

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.879
<v Speaker 1>jayla Hella, not saying Laton Vanderesh can't do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who used to play safety, maybe could do

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 1>a better. We know about MICA's athleticism, so with just

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the way that teams like to attack through the error,

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I tend to think that these snap counts are going

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>to stay the way they were, and now if they

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>get late and more involved, I'm not upset about that.

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 1>But that's just sort of my expectation. I thought he

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>was pretty good and you know, getting interceptions and stuff

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>his rookie year. I know that's a few years ago,

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>but I still think he can do that. I think

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>he's an instinct, instinctive player. Um. I'd like to see

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.959
<v Speaker 1>him out there more. And I'm not saying for for Neil.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I think Neil can play safety. I really do. And

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I think so in like Neil comes in for Donovan. Yeah,

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with that, all right. I mean, you know,

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>or Donovan played pretty well. Yeah he did. I mean,

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>or Casey or whatever, you know, trick it up, I mean,

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>figure figure out ways to do it. But I think

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>vander esh, you know, his biggest achilles heel is when

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>he's hurt. When he's not, he's a good football player.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, that's a rap. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into Cowboys offense versus the Chargers defense. Till then

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<v Speaker 1>for Nick even, Dave Helm and I'm Derek Eagleton. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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