1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario, this may be the very first thing 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: that you are listening to as we kick off twenty 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: twenty four. And for that, man, I am so grateful, 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: and to show my gratitude, I wanted to give back 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: to you. So many of us we start the new 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: year wanting to figure out ways for self improvement, ways 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: to better ourselves, and so just set us up for success. 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: So today I am bringing four of my dear friends 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: and experts on my show to help us out for 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: what I am calling the Guru episode. The information you 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: were about to receive from these folks is incredible. First up, 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: you will hear from Don Saladino. Don is known for 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: getting the biggest stars in Hollywood in superhero shape, stars 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: like Ryan Reynolds, Sebastian Stan, Hugh Jackman, and Hathaway, Blake 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Lively and so many more. In my opinion, he is 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: the number one fitness coach in the industry because he 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: makes it all seem so approachable and attainable. Next, you 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: will hear from doctor Gabriel a Lion, who is a 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: highly respected functional medicine practitioner specializing in brain and thyroid health, 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: lean body mass, support, and longevity. She is also the 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: New York Times best selling author of Forever Strong, and 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: today she will share how we can set our bodies 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: up to be forever strong. See what I did there, 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: and we will dive into her science based strategy for aging. Well, 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: then you're going to meet the incredible Doctor Dendee, a 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: board certified dermatologist and Moe's surgeon who works with some 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: of Hollywood's biggest stars now skincare. It can be overwhelming, 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: but today she breaks down exactly what we should be 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: doing to get our healthiest, most vibrant and glowy skin, 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: and how achieving beautiful skin does not have to cost 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: much money at all. And finally, you will meet the 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: woman responsible for some of the best haircuts on your 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: favorite stars, stars like Michael J. Fox, Jason Biggs, Ryan Reynolds, 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: and so many more. She is the most sought after 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: gal for all things men's grooming, and today she is 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: sharing more about what I consider to be the best 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: hair pace in the market, and it's appropriately called the 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: best Pace. She is such a gem and I can't 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: wait for her to share her hair tips with us, 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: so I hope you enjoy this episode with the four 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: superheroes in my life that I wanted to share with you. 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: Let's dive in and make this a spectacular twenty twenty four. 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Don Saladino, my brother, how you doing. 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Okay? I'm always TechEd to have a call with you, 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: and it's great to see you and yeah, everything's good. 47 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: Well, you were the first person I thought of when 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to put together this episode, bringing on my 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: favorite gurus, my family, because I really want to help 50 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: people kick off the new year right, and it's overwhelming 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: in January. You get inundated with information, and I don't 52 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: want people to feel like they're failing at their goals 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: or they don't know where to begin. So I guess 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: my first question for you is what do you think 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: are really applicable and realistic tips to give people who 56 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: are looking at this date on the calendar January tewod 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: and thinking how the hell am I going to start 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: off my wellness journey? 59 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: First off, people bite off more than they can chew. 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: You have these great intentions of wanting to start out 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: this time of the year, and just you know, guns 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: a blaze and they want to change everything, and the 63 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: reality is, it's very few people out there who are 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: built that way. I always like to say, there's things 65 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: that I'm great at, and there's just things that I'm 66 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: not good at, and it's just how the world works. 67 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: So what I always recommend to do is like run 68 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: on a sheet of paper, like these changes that you'd 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: like to implement throughout the year, maybe there's ten of them, 70 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: and just take one and spend one month trying to 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: work on that. Right, it might be hydration, it might 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: be getting to the gym. Let's spend month two working 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: on that. And this is in no specific order, right, 74 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: because some things are going to click and some things 75 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: are just going to be a little bit more difficult. 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: But I think this day and age, you know, we 77 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: are in this comparison phase of seeing people on the 78 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: internet and social media and well, this is what this 79 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: person does, this is what the other person does, and 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: the reality is it just doesn't really work out that way. 81 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: And you really need to, I think, recognize your strengths 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: and your weaknesses. And if this time of the year 83 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: has been a weakness for you or you felt like 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: it's a weakness, then you really need to take a 85 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: little bit of a different approach and taking that approach 86 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: of trying to work out, you know perfectly for the 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: next you know, I'm not taking a day off, or 88 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm not going to have a cheat meal, or I'm 89 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: going to give up chocolate cake every Obviously example, I 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: always give like I'm going to give it up every day, 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: and I had a three hundred and sixty five days 92 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: last year. Well, it's probably gonna be a really difficult 93 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: thing to do, and the second you have it, you're 94 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: going to feel like you fell off the horse. So 95 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: don't try and bite off more than they can chew. 96 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: And give yourself some like really attainable goals, just something 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: that's a little bit easier, build some momentum, and then 98 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: you're going to take it from there. 99 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: How important would you say is consistency because you hear 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, I was going hard for a 101 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: week or two weeks and then I just kind of stopped. 102 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, would you say that's one of the most 103 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: important things that we all should be keeping in mind? 104 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think consistency Trump's intensity. What I'm always trying 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: to teach people even when getting into the gym is 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: don't try and come in with that rocky type mentality 107 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: every single session. Don't try and push yourself one hundred 108 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: and ten percent. I think you can just get in there, 109 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: get moving, and get out of that session. Where what 110 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: happens is is a lot of us will get in 111 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: on day one and we're feeling great and we're supposed 112 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: to be spending maybe a half hour or twenty minutes 113 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: or whatever the time frame is, and you're putting in 114 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: double time because you want to just keep going, keep going, 115 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: keep going, and then your body is gonna you know, 116 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: it's going to feel that the next couple of days. 117 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: Then out of nowhere, you're really sore. Then maybe two 118 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: three days later you're a little bit more tired. Then 119 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: you start losing that motivation. So I would say motivation 120 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: is something that people think it's very hard, it's very 121 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: difficult to find, and I find it really easy when 122 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: you're seeing progress. And I've seen some great progress from 123 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: people who are like shortening their workout times or cutting 124 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: back on their workout volume. Maybe someone's coming to me 125 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: and they're saying, well, twenty five minutes, i'm feeling like 126 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to be there anymore. Then I'm going 127 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: to create the twenty minute workout for them, like I 128 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: always want them to leave where they're feeling like they 129 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: want to continue. And I think by taking that approach 130 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: that allows us to recover, that allows us to want 131 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: to come back in day in and day out, and 132 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: that's how we end up seeing that progress. And when 133 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: you see progress, as you know, I mean, you're the 134 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: last person I'm telling this too. When you see progress, 135 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: it becomes very motivating. Like you want to come back 136 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: into the gym, and you want to eat well, and 137 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: you want to get your steps, and you love exercise 138 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: because it gives you a feeling and it gives you 139 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: a result, and because of that that becomes very motivating. 140 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a really important point. Now I'm a geek, 141 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: so you know, as we know, I'm someone that can 142 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: go in a gym and spend hours if I have 143 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: the time. But I think this idea that you know, 144 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: if you're not spending two hours max in the gym, 145 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: that you won't see results, and you may as well 146 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: not even try. It's just not true. 147 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: It's not true. Take someone who's been sitting on the 148 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: couch last year, three hundred and sixty five days and 149 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: get them to do ten minutes of work every day, 150 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: They're going to feel better. They're going to break a sweat, 151 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: they might start making some better food choices. Their sleep 152 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: quality may start improving. They may start waking up the 153 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: next day with more energy. They may start feeling empowered, 154 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: are a little bit more confident, and then suddenly ten 155 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: becomes twelve, which becomes fifteen, and then you're on this 156 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: path to you know, wanting to incorporate it's not just 157 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: fitness I like to call wellness, but I think anytime 158 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: when you're just trying to come out of the gate 159 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: with everything you've got and it's just there's no plan, 160 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: you end up crashing. 161 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: You know. 162 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: I was speaking to a client of mine years ago, 163 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: very very successful politician was in finance. It was a 164 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: multi billionaire, phenomenal at business obviously, but when you look 165 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: at the approach he took to business and you look 166 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: at the approach that he took to his wellness, they 167 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: were like, you're really the same person here, and it 168 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: was just this process was off right. Like in business, 169 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: everything was planned. He surrounded himself with people who had 170 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: strong points in areas that he didn't. Team approach very thoughtful, 171 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: very targeted goals and then in wellness plan, it's like, oh, 172 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: what do we have in the fridge today? What are 173 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: we doing for our workout today? What do I need 174 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: to do? And it was like, you know, you're not 175 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: taking He's got those tools, He had those tools in 176 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: his head where he was able to assemble that process 177 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: for himself, but when it came down to his wellness journey, 178 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: he just wasn't even thinking that way. There's so many 179 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: you know, things you know he can or could have 180 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: done that would have enabled him for success. And when 181 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: you start seeing that level of success, then we can 182 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: add a little bit. Right. It's like it's like when 183 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: you work with a child sometimes right like in reference 184 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: to sports, like I have two kids. My kids are 185 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: sixteen and fifteen. But when my son got in a 186 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: baseball or my daughter got in a softball, like you 187 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: were sitting there and you were trying to allow them 188 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: to build their own confidence. So you're putting the ball 189 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,119 Speaker 2: on the tee and when they're hitting the ball, you're applauding, 190 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: and you're trying to get them excited to where they 191 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: want to come back and they want to do more. 192 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: It really it sounds ridiculous, but it's it's the same process. 193 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: I mean, as adults, we don't want to go do 194 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: something that we're not going to enjoy, or we're not 195 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: going to want to do something where we don't maybe 196 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: feel about a level of happiness or validation. And it's 197 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: like when you start showing them that progress as a 198 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: coach meeting or as a parent, then they start wanting 199 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: to come back in and do it more and more 200 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: and more, And that's how you want to hook them. 201 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: So that's always been my goal. It's like, it's not 202 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: about body fat percentage, it's not about a number on 203 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 2: the scale. It's really more about a feeling. And if 204 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: I can help give them that thought process, if I 205 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: could teach them that process to where they actually enjoy it, 206 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: It's like Atlanta always use mic drop game over like 207 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: they're gonna be great. Like with you, it's like wellness 208 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: has become part of your life. It's part of your lifestyle. 209 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: If someone turns you and they're like, Tommy, isn't it 210 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: hardy you like that? You'd say no, it'd be hard 211 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: not to. 212 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Like if I started. 213 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: Feeding you pizza and pasta and ice cream, things we 214 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: may like over the next few days, you're gonna feel terrible. 215 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: Like you're gonna feel terrible. That's not like maybe once 216 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: in a while to have that, there's enjoyment out of it, 217 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: and then for us it's like going back to, you know, 218 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: what makes us feel good. So that's what I'm trying 219 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 2: to teach. 220 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Well. I think it's a really attainable approach. That's why 221 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: I love what you stand for and what you put 222 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: out there, because it is the little by little approach 223 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: and work on things, get good at those things, and 224 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: then challenge yourself again and you kind of tackle it 225 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: in this three sixty sort of way. It's not just 226 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: about getting a great workout, and it's also about eating right. 227 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: And for everybody listening, Don has amazing recipes and food plans, 228 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: and you've helped me tremendously. I always considered myself a 229 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: healthy eater, but you've helped me realize the importance of 230 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: more protein and car balance and good carbs and all 231 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: those things. So talk to me for a second about 232 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: this idea of food in its relationship to somebody that's 233 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: working out, Like, is it as big of a deal 234 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: is it not? What would you say, because I think 235 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: there's a ton of confusion out there. I even sometimes 236 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: see quote unquote healthy Instagram people who are in the 237 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: gym three sixty five and all day, all night then 238 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: like wolfing down gummy bears and talking about how that's okay. 239 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: What do you have to say about all of that? 240 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: What gets confusing about now, you know, Instagram, social media, 241 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: is that there are so many different approaches, right, Like 242 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: you can look at someone doing the ketogenic diet who 243 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: has great blood work and looks fantastic intermitted fasting. Maybe 244 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: they eat more like me and you, which is more 245 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: of a plant strong, high protein diet, right, Maybe it's 246 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: more of the Mediterranean diet. Maybe it's more palo. There's 247 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: so many different diets out there, and it could become 248 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: really confusing. And you know, all it takes is one 249 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: person to turn around and say, I eat candy every 250 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: day and look, I have a six pack, and I 251 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: have low levels of body fat and fine, Like they 252 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: may look, they may look healthy, but does it really 253 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: mean they're healthy? Like does it really mean that their 254 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: blood work is good? Like I just got off the 255 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: phone with doctor Gabrielle Line and we were reviewing my bloods. 256 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: So these are things that I always like to stay on. 257 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: But nutrition, it plays a huge role in all this. 258 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: And when I say that, I'm not saying that you 259 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: need to give up ice cream or pizza or give 260 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: up that glass of wine here and there. I just 261 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: think that there needs to be some moderation and there 262 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: should be some principles that you pay attention to. Protein 263 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: is very important, Vegetables are very important. Slow burning carbohydrates 264 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: are very important, right Like Proteins are muscle building blocks. 265 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: So when we build muscle like, that doesn't mean I'm 266 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: going to get bigger like. It doesn't mean that it 267 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: means our body is going to become more resilient. It 268 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: means we're gonna have body armor on our body. It 269 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: means our metabolism is going to speed up. There's all 270 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 2: these important things that we need from a sustainability standpoint 271 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: as we age bone density. Carbs are one of our 272 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: energy sources. Fats are one of our energy sources, right, 273 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: so you know we need these nutrients to be successful. 274 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: So I think what happens is sometimes we'll listen to 275 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: a friend that's the oddball, or we'll see something online 276 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: that by someone who's doing something a bit different, and 277 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 2: we think because it's working for them, it's going to 278 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: work for you. But there's so many factors out there 279 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: where I would determine someone being healthy or not, and 280 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 2: really doesn't have much to do with how they look 281 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: with the shirt off. I mean, it could have something 282 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: to do with it there. Obviously, you take your shirt off, 283 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: you have low levels of body fat. I do as well, 284 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: And you know, our blood work is great and we're healthy, 285 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: but that's really more because we're so focused on what's 286 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 2: going on inside our body. We're so focused on how 287 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: that motor is running, how that energy is running, and 288 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: because of that, it allows us to want to go 289 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: to the gym and want to wake up with energy. 290 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: And you know, it's the reason why you know, you 291 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: still look like you're twenty years old, right, Like all 292 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: these things are related, are you know, our result of 293 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: what you're actually putting into your body. And you know, 294 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: our parents used to tell to us, you are what 295 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: you eat. It's one of those, you know lines that 296 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: just sound so cliche, but it's it's a truth. You 297 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: are what you eat. 298 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: You taught me that in a big way. I always 299 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: consider myself a healthy eater, but I was eating at 300 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: Midtaly a protein bar a day in the afternoon, and 301 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: to me, it was the cleanest one I could find. 302 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: But still you were like, Temmy, why wouldn't you swap 303 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: that for like half a chicken breast and some sweet potato. 304 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh man, that's so overwhelming. I don't know. 305 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm on the go, I'm in a rush, I can't 306 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: do that, and I made the swap, and it's so easy. 307 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: And even if I'm going to a gig or work 308 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: or whatever, I put it in my bag. So there's easy, 309 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: attainable ways, which is the point of this conversation. What 310 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: I love about you, Don is I'm lucky that we're family, 311 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: we're brothers, and I benefit from your knowledge being in 312 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: your life. But you help people everywhere through your custom 313 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: programs online. I mean, I've been doing your full body 314 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: as you know for a year. Yes, you train all 315 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: the stars and everybody knows that, and Ryan for Deadpool 316 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: and everybody we know that. But you help everybody across 317 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: the world, which I think is beautiful. So talk to 318 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: me for a second about your plans for anybody interested 319 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: in wanting to dive in and start fresh this month. 320 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Where can we find information. What are they don. 321 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: Saladino dot com is a great place to go. I 322 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: have a challenge every month and the name of it 323 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: doesn't do it much justice. It's not a challenge against 324 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: anyone else. It's more of a challenge within yourself. And 325 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: I do the group coaching on a private Facebook group. 326 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: You know. 327 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: I sell programs on Don Saldino dot com. You can 328 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: go on there take the free quiz. If you have 329 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: any questions, feel free to DM me. As you know, 330 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm always I'm always answering questions and I'm always happy 331 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: to help. And again, man appreciate the opportunity. I think 332 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: my only word of advice for everyone would be, you know, 333 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: don't don't buite off more than they can chew, right, Like, 334 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: just small wins, small steps. You're not gonna eat like 335 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: Tommy overnight. Right, You're not gonna eat like down overnight. 336 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: It's not supposed to be like that. But if you 337 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: could take one meal and make it better, make it 338 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: more nutritious, and just spend the next month focusing on 339 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: that one meal rather than changing everything at once, you know, 340 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: give yourself, like eat fast food three times a day 341 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: and we cut it to two times a day. Still 342 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: needs work, but we're in the right direction, right. We 343 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: just clean everything up about thirty three percent so that 344 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: I'm really happy about it. I want people to realize 345 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: that that's okay. Just take that one thing, focus on it, 346 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: make mistakes, and hopefully you make it a habit. 347 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: Grateful for you, brother, you have helped me tremendously. You've 348 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: helped a lot of people in so many ways. And guys, 349 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: please check out Don Saladino dot com for all of 350 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: the good information he is going to help you kick 351 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: start this new year. I love you, man, love you. 352 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: Doctor Gabrielle Lyon. How you doing. 353 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: I'm doing great, my friend. As always, it's so good 354 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: to see you. 355 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: I am so in love with you and what you 356 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: stand for, which is why you're here today. I really 357 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: want to help people get off on the right foot 358 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: as we kick off twenty twenty four, and I couldn't 359 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: think of anyone better than you. So we have a 360 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: lot to get to in a short amount of time. 361 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: I want to dive right in now. You are, of course, 362 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: the founder of muscle centric medicine, So for everybody listening, 363 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: tell me what that means. 364 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 5: What is that? 365 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, the muscle centric medicine, and the concept of muscle 366 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: centric medicine is this idea that skeletal muscle is the 367 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: largest organ system in the body, and that it is 368 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: responsible for how we age, and the health and wellness 369 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: of our skeletal muscle is directly related to many of 370 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: these diseases that we're seeing that we all care about, 371 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: like obesity, cardiovascular disease, even Alzheimer's. And when you take 372 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: targeted action to help support the health of your skeletal muscle, 373 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 4: you can change the trajectory of the way in which 374 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: we age and live. 375 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: And it's such important information because, as you quite often discuss, 376 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: that we are all battling being under muscled, right, so 377 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: talk to me about that. 378 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 4: Everyone except for you tell me I. 379 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: Don't know about that. 380 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 4: This is a very exciting topic, this idea that we 381 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: have continued to focus on an obesity epidemic. Quite frankly, 382 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 4: the last fifty years, we've been chasing body fat and 383 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: talking about obesity as if it is the focal point 384 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 4: for sickness. And I would argue that we don't have 385 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 4: an obesity epidemic, but what we really have is a 386 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 4: midlife muscle crisis. I would also go out on a 387 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 4: limb and say we are not over fat, but in 388 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: fact we are under muscled, and that the diseases and 389 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 4: the impact and the health of skeletal muscle is a 390 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: direct relationship and has a direct relationship to the obesity 391 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: that we see. Quite simply put that obesity begins in 392 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: skeletal muscle decades earlier, and if we were to address 393 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: the health of skeletal muscle first, then we would see 394 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 4: a vastly different outcome than what we have right now. 395 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: And you have so much information in your fairly new book, 396 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: which excuse me New York Times best selling author. Hello, 397 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: congrats to you on that, Thank you, thank you. But 398 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: the book is a source of information. But I guess 399 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: if we had to summarize a little bit, make a 400 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: few bullet points, what would you say are three to 401 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: four tips on how we can avoid being under muscled? 402 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: Number one resistance exercise. This is the key to the 403 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: fountain of youth, and that is moving your muscles and 404 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 4: really training. Of course, cardiovascular activity is wonderful, but resistance 405 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: exercise is a non negotiable. That could quite simply be 406 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 4: push us squats, moving against a force. If you are 407 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: at home, you can use bands. Eventually, I would love 408 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: for you to graduate to weights and even potentially kettlebells. 409 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: Because remember, when we're exercising, we're not training to become 410 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: better at exercise. We are training to become better at life. 411 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: And how can we choose movements that will support a healthy, 412 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 4: capable life. I'll give you an example. Oftentimes I hear 413 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: women tell me they're afraid of getting bulky and that 414 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: they're just going to stick to their five to ten 415 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: pound weights. And then I challenge them and I say, well, 416 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 4: how much does your toddler way? And I don't know 417 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: about you, but my toddler is around forty pounds and 418 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 4: I'm constantly carrying her around, and I'm constantly carrying another 419 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: bag around right there, that's fifty pounds. I'm not getting bulky. 420 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 4: What about these are what we would call smart girl numbers, right, 421 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: strong girl numbers. What about putting a piece of luggage 422 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 4: overhead on an airplane? My luggage is pretty heavy. So 423 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: we have to move away from thinking about just even 424 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: modest weights going to create some kind of bulk in humans. 425 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 4: So number one lift weights. Number two support skeletal muscle 426 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 4: with high quality dietary protein. High quality dietary protein includes 427 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: foods like way protein, lean red meats, fish, chicken, turkey. 428 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: All of these things are wonderful sources of high quality 429 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 4: protein which support skeletal muscle health as well as nearly 430 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 4: every tissue hormone in the body. So those would be 431 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: the first two and then the third most important aspect 432 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: of health and wellness is a little bit going to 433 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: sound like it's off the beaten path, and that would 434 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: be be aware of your weaknesses, will always focus on 435 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 4: their strengths. And when you focus on your strengths, that 436 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 4: means that you are blind sided for the parts of 437 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: you that will be vulnerable to coming off your nutrition plan, 438 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: to skipping that workout, to I don't know, indulging in avice, 439 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 4: whether it's alcohol, et cetera. And when you are very 440 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: aware of your weaknesses, you plan for them and you 441 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 4: can circumvent them, because nothing is going to take you 442 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 4: off of your game plan faster than being unprepared for 443 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 4: the predictable nature that you have. 444 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: What would you say, in all of your research, all 445 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: of your studies, all of the beliefs that you have 446 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: and information to back them up with, what would you say, 447 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: is the biggest misconception you think people have when it 448 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: comes to muscles and protein and the relationship with both 449 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: of those things. 450 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: That's a wonderful question, and I would say that that 451 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 4: answer will likely change depending on when you ask it. 452 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: For me. 453 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 4: Right now, there's a lot of discussion about the importance 454 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: of protein. Should we reduce our dietary protein? And that 455 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 4: is probably one of the most dangerous pieces of health 456 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: and wellness advice that I can think of. And here's why. 457 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 4: Dietary protein is critical for maintaining an optimal body composition 458 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 4: to be able to maintain the health of skeletal muscle. 459 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 4: We know that the current recommendations are minimum recommendations. For example, 460 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: the point eight grams per kg, which the listener who 461 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: doesn't want to do math might it's zero point three 462 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: seven grams per pound of body weight. That is not 463 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 4: much for dietary protein. For example, if one was one 464 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: hundred and fifteen pounds, you multiply that by point three 465 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 4: seven that would give you forty five grams of protein. 466 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 4: The idea that that minimum amount is enough is very 467 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 4: detrimental to overall aging body composition and health, because skeletal 468 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 4: muscle is important for performance, but it's very important for 469 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 4: blood sugar regulation, for cholesterol, for cholesterol metabolism, for insulin sensitivity, 470 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: all of these things that we think about when we 471 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: think about health and wellness. Skeletal muscle truly is the 472 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: focal point. And with this idea that we should go 473 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 4: plant based, our diet is already seventy percent plant based. 474 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 4: And again, whether these are ultra processed foods or grains, 475 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: et cetera, we are already on a plant based diet. 476 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: And if someone were to say, well, we should further 477 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 4: reduce our animal proteins, I would say to what and 478 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 4: how are those percentages going to look and what are 479 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: the implications going to be? 480 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: I have to share with you real quick. I have 481 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: a very close family member who was plant based for years, 482 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: began and vegetarian on and off, and recently began eating 483 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: meat products. And he's a high, high, high performer, dancer, choreographer, 484 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: always working out, always moving, and he's never felt better. 485 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 1: And he started reading your book and it's because of 486 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: you that his whole mentality has shifted. And he's late thirties, 487 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: and you know, as we continue to get older and 488 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: age gracefully, I'll say it's important to take care of ourselves, 489 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: and him alone is having this epic revelation based off 490 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: of your teachings on feeling like he was lied to 491 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: for so many years. 492 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: First of all, I'm so grateful that he was open minded. Oftentimes, 493 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 4: when we hear something repeated over and over again, we 494 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: believe that that is truth, and it really limits our 495 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: ability to explore other things. Like this doctor that's saying 496 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: that we don't have an obesit epidemic, that we really 497 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 4: have a midlife muscle crisis. I am so grateful that 498 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: he was able to again open up his mind and 499 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 4: try something different. It's not that someone couldn't be vegan 500 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: or vegetarian and be healthy. They could. What I will 501 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 4: also say is that we have to move away from 502 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 4: just the single focus of protein. Don't just eat protein. 503 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: We eat foods, and high quality animal based foods have 504 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: high amounts of iron and zinc and selenium and these 505 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: other molecules like creatine and seerine and touring. All of 506 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: these things that are beneficial to our brain, beneficial to 507 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 4: our body, help with energy. And when we think about 508 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 4: things as interchangeable proteins, they're not These foods are not interchangeable, 509 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: and they have very unique roles that are important for 510 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 4: sustainability of one's life and athletic performance and just overall wellness. 511 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: I will forever think of you and associate protein, muscle building, 512 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: all of it. Every time I eat protein with the meal, 513 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, she would be so proud of me. 514 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 4: True, it's true. 515 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: And with all of that, you also dive into the 516 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: idea of anti aging and things that we can do 517 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: to age gracefully. As I mentioned earlier, what are some 518 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: other things that interests you or that you have found 519 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: through your studies and research on how to age gracefully. 520 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 4: I really like some of the external influences, for example, 521 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: saunas and ice baths, those things that we can put 522 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 4: into our environment that potentially create a different stress than 523 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 4: is just this motion and force production stress. I think 524 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: that that is very valuable. I also think that there 525 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: is a place for very unique supplementation, whether that is 526 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 4: post biotics or prebiotics. I think that that is very valuable. 527 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 4: And I hate to say it, but I'm going to 528 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 4: say it. Sleep. Sleep is so important for brain function 529 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: and for body composition and muscular health. It just is, 530 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 4: in fact, one night of sleep deprivation might suppress muscle 531 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 4: protein synthesis, which is a big fancy word for your 532 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: skeletal muscle to rebuild itself by eighteen percent. Wow, just 533 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 4: one night of sleep deprivation. 534 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: So is it hard for you to get your sleep? 535 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: As a busy entrepreneur and helping people across the world, 536 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: do you really prioritize that? Are you able to get 537 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: your full seven to eight hours? 538 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 6: Well? 539 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 4: I also have two little kids, and one of them 540 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: refuses to sleep in their bed. I always try to 541 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: prioritize sleep. I do. It is difficult, but certainly a priority. 542 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: So for everybody listening right now who is looking at 543 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: their year and saying, I love what doctor Gabrielle Lyin 544 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: is saying, how do I begin? What is my first step? 545 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: What should be that first step in your opinion, to 546 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: living this healthier, more protein driven life. 547 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 4: First of all, I love that healthier, more protein driven life. Again, 548 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: the first framework for thinking about it is understanding yourself, 549 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 4: knowing what you are going to tell yourself. I can't 550 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: do this, I don't have time, this is uncomfortable. There 551 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: is a whole multitude of things that an individual will 552 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 4: plan on saying to themselves as they embark on the 553 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: uncomfortable journey of the unfamiliar. Number one, so expect it's 554 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 4: going to be uncomfortable, and we're going to do it anyway. 555 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 4: The second piece of advice is get a great resistance 556 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 4: training program. And if you don't know where to look again, 557 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: I covered in my book Don Saladino one of my 558 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: best friends. Our best friend I know is going to 559 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 4: be speaking about exercise programs, but that is really the 560 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: non negotiable. You must train. Your body was designed to 561 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: function against challenges. Don't take that away from your body. 562 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: Number three is create a nutrition plan that you will 563 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: be able to be consistent with. There are many ways 564 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 4: to do nutrition. I cover that in my book Forever Strong. 565 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: It is what I believe and what the evidence would 566 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: suggest is a very streamlined, excellent approach to aging and 567 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: body composition. Understand what you're going to do. Leave off 568 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: chaotic eating, Tommy. I should be able to call you 569 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: and ask you what you had for breakfast two weeks 570 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: ago on a Wednesday, and you should be able to 571 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: answer me. As you are consistent and because you are capable, 572 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: and because that is the standard that you've set and 573 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 4: you're going to execute on that standard, and it doesn't 574 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: matter what kind of day you had or what kind 575 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: of mood you were in. This is what you know 576 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 4: that you have for Brekast, and this is how you 577 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 4: plan it out. And when we do that, we get 578 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 4: incredible results because there is a level of consistency and 579 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: a level of integrity that we put into place, and 580 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 4: these become our standards of execution. 581 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: I could listen to you for hours and hours and hours, 582 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: doctor Gabrielle Line. You guys can follow her on all 583 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: things social media and your book. Talk to me for 584 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: one minute about your book and what people can expect 585 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: and why we should all read it. 586 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the first book of its kind and 587 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: it is called Forever Strong, and it changes the paradigm 588 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 4: of thinking again. It just reverses this obesity epidemic on 589 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 4: its head and it focuses on what do we have 590 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 4: to gain versus what do we have to lose. The 591 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: diet culture, the information on health and fitness has always 592 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: been focused very much on weight loss, and I would 593 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 4: argue that that is a no pun intended a losing 594 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: battle versus on what we have to gain and what 595 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: we have to gain through the health of skeletal muscle 596 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: is so much more substantial than looking good being jacked, 597 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: lifting heavy, but from a metabolic perspective, from a wellness perspective, 598 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: from a mood, from a brain perspective. We all want 599 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: to live a long life and we all want to 600 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 4: leave a legacy. I will say that your longevity and 601 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: your legacy are very intertwined, and this book will provide 602 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: a framework for how we think about these things, as 603 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 4: well as the history of nutrition and very executable plans 604 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: like how you should design your diet, how you should 605 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: train meals, and how you should think. 606 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Pick up the book, y'all. It is life changing. And lastly, 607 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: does somebody like doctor g every lion make a New 608 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: Year's resolution? 609 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: I don't. I make no New Year's resolutions, And I 610 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: believe in setting standards. I believe that we set standards 611 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: for our life and those are the guardrails and the 612 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 4: criteria for which we live. And when we do that, 613 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 4: goals or dreams or hopes, et cetera all fall into place. 614 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: When you set a new Year's resolution or a goal. 615 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: There is room for failure. When you set a standard, 616 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 4: you either did it or you did it. There is 617 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 4: no failure involved you either set a standard for yourself 618 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 4: and you execute on that standard, or you set a 619 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 4: goal and again that's just a little too nebulous for me. 620 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: Well, I look forward to continuing to learn from you 621 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: all year long. You know, I adore you. You're such 622 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: a badass and, as I say, a guru in my life. 623 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: And I just love you, Sammy, You're the best. 624 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: You're too having me, doctor Denji. How are you my friend? 625 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 5: I'm great, not me? How are you? 626 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm so good. I'm so happy that you're here. You know, 627 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: you are one of my favorite people in the world, 628 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: and I just aside from loving you as a friend, 629 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: I so value you as a professional and you are 630 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: the best of the best in this business. And I'm 631 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: so happy to have you on to help people kick 632 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: off the new year. Rights I love it. 633 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: I'm glad to be here with you. 634 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: I guess one of the biggest questions I see sometimes 635 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: in my DMS and on social media is very general 636 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 1: and kind of overwhelming, and I don't always know how 637 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: to answer it. And that question is where do I 638 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: start with getting better skin? Like? What do I do? 639 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: So? 640 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: What would you say to that? 641 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: It is so overwhelming? The world of skincare, and I 642 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: don't envy the lay person who walks into a drugstore, 643 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: department store, or into a saphora and is trying to 644 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: navigate this crazy world. And it's hard to figure out 645 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: what your skin individual needs are. So what I kind 646 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: of bucketed down onto our certain verticals that I say 647 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: are non negotiable, Like we have to have a good cleanser, 648 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: and a good cleanser does not mean it has to 649 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: be expensive, but we need to clean our face in 650 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: order to prep it for the actives that we're going. 651 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 5: To put on next. 652 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: We need a good antioxidant in the morning, so to 653 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: think about vitamin C, serum, things with vitamin E or 654 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 3: ferulic acid, fluoritin. They're all kinds of different antioxidants that 655 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: help to protect our skin. So that's a good thing 656 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 3: to put on in the morning. A good moisturizer, certainly 657 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: we think about how uronic acid or different peptides are 658 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: really important to keep the skin hydrated. And then no 659 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: skincare routine is complete without SPF, and I know that 660 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: that's not very sexy. Everyone kind of wants corrective actives, 661 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 3: but really, if you're preventing the damage from the beginning. 662 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: Then your skin will be so much more beautiful for 663 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: years to come. And I'm very excited about the fact 664 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 3: that the younger patients are really committed to that. It's 665 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: my demographic of like forty's and up that really haven't 666 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: bought into the daily use as much as we should 667 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: because I'm in the South and my mom always you say, 668 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 3: an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, 669 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: and that goes for either skin cancer but also premature aging, 670 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: because there are certainly extrinsic causes of aging, like pollution 671 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: and ultra violet radiation that can damage the skin and 672 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: make us look older before our time. So those are 673 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: some really important verticals to have in the morning cleanser, antioxidant, 674 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 3: moisturizer sps, and then at night, a key skincare routine 675 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 3: would include again cleansing the face to prep and then 676 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 3: some kind of anti age or for most people starting 677 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: as young as in your twenties, either of vitamin A 678 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: derivative like retinol or retinoids like tretnoen that we prescribe 679 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: to patients what used to be just for acne, and 680 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: we found that people did so well in their skin 681 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: texture and skin tone. With this active A lot of 682 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 3: people can't tolerate that. So an alternative is bakuciol, which 683 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: is a mouthful to say. It's a plant based retinl 684 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 3: alternative that helps to activate a lot of the similar 685 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 3: genes as retinal. And then there's a really new exciting 686 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: ingredient that has hit the market just this year. It 687 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 3: was published in twenty eighteen. Then with the pandemic, it 688 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: was kind of slower to be brought to market, but 689 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 3: it usually takes about three years for like a stellar 690 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: new ingredient that's been discovered and written about to make 691 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 3: it to market. But it's called HPR and that stands 692 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: for hydroxy panacolone retino eight, which is, you know, a mouthful, 693 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: but it is in the vitamin A umbrella under that 694 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: and it activates similar genes to retinol or to tretnoin 695 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: or retinoic acid, but there are the RXR receptors instead 696 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: of the RAR receptors, and it minimizes irritation, so you're 697 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: getting all of the good of retinal but none of 698 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: the bad side effects where your skin is red and 699 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: burning and peeling, and you have to slowly introduce it 700 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: into your routine. So that's going to be something that's 701 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: really fun in twenty twenty four. I anticipate that that 702 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 3: will be a big trend that we're going to see 703 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 3: new products that have this new ingredient in it. And 704 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: there is one now that's available that. 705 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 5: I really like. 706 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: If your listeners are like, where do I get it? 707 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 3: It's made by Elizabeth Arden, and it's called retinal plus 708 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 3: HPR and it's great. And in the clinical trials, they 709 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: found that one hundred percent of people, even if they 710 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 3: were retinal naive, did not react poorly to this. They 711 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 3: all tolerated it. Starting at day one, after twelve weeks 712 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: of use, they were still doing well and tolerating it 713 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 3: and seeing great benefit in the skin. So that's a 714 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: great new discovery in the world of skin here because 715 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 3: we all know that retinal is so great for the skin, 716 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: but so many people can't tolerate it. So this is 717 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 3: like a new breakthrough ingredient that will be exciting to 718 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: see more of in. 719 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 5: Twenty twenty four. 720 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: And you mentioned some block and I know that is 721 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: so important to you, but people listening like, so, well, 722 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: I'm in an office all day, I'm only outside when 723 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: I'm driving maybe ten fifteen minutes to work, Do I 724 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: really need to put it on? And to that you would. 725 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 5: Say, I would say yes. 726 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 3: I mean it's all cumulative. And the reality is we 727 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 3: do feel protected in our offices or in our cars, 728 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 3: but most windows only protect us against UVB light, and 729 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 3: it doesn't filter out UVA, which is the more aging 730 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: of the wavelengths, and it's a more oncogenic, meaning the 731 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 3: one that tends to increase breaks in the DNA which 732 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 3: then lead to skin cancer. So we're kind of lulled 733 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 3: into this full sense of security when we're in the 734 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 3: car that we're protected, but we're only actually protected from 735 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 3: the one that makes our skin turn color, the UVB, 736 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: but not for the one that penetrates more deeply and 737 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: degrades our collagen. So it's just a great habit to 738 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: get into from a young age until the grave. Just 739 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: like we brush our teeth every day, we don't just 740 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: brush our teeth when we're going to the dentist. We 741 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 3: brush our teeth every day in hoping to prevent cavities 742 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: because we know that actually teeth are one of the 743 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 3: only things in the body that doesn't repair itself. The 744 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 3: skin is able to, but if it's fighting active injury, 745 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: it's very hard to repair it. To the same time, 746 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: so you're allowing for your skin to be protected so 747 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: that all of these checks and balances that the body 748 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: is amazing at having can repair old damage and prevent 749 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: us from skin cancers and premature agent. 750 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: Good point, an important point. I hope people really take 751 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: that to heart, because there's no reason not to put 752 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: it on. It takes two seconds and it's protective and 753 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: we all need that. And I also like that you mentioned, 754 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: you know, going to a pharmacy or drug store early 755 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: in the conversation, because I think people assume if it's 756 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: not super expensive, it must not be good. So do 757 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: you think skincare has to cost a lot of money 758 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: to be effective? 759 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 3: I don't, and I always talk to my patients about 760 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: like what kind of budget are we working within, because 761 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 3: I don't think it's fair, nor is it the reality 762 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 3: anymore that you have to have a zillion dollars in 763 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: order to have good skincare. I mean, if you think 764 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 3: about some of the major mass produced beauty brands, they're 765 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 3: owned by similar parent companies. So for example, Laroche Pross, 766 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: which is a drugstore band, is owned by Laurel, and 767 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 3: a lot of the offerings that they have for active 768 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 3: ingredients once they go off with patent. For example, skin Suticles, 769 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 3: who's also owned by Laurel, then that goes into their 770 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 3: over the counter offerings. And so the vitamin C alosorbic 771 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 3: acid that you find in Skin Suticles serums for antioxidant 772 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: protection is the same one that you can find over 773 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: the counter, the same allosorbic acid that's in their vitamin 774 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 3: C serum. So it's nice to be able to offer 775 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 3: someone something that fits their budget. And certainly if you 776 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 3: are most of us, we all have some kind of budget. 777 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: You don't have to spend a ton of money on 778 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 3: a cleanser. That is not where you want to splurge. 779 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 3: You want it to be effective. But lord knows, there 780 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: are a million cleansers out there and they all work 781 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 3: pretty well. Find the one that works for you, but 782 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 3: don't break the bank on that. Save for a good serum, 783 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 3: a good anti ager, and certainly they're also really good 784 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 3: sunscreens that are within a reasonable price point. And that 785 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 3: it's going to be the prevention part that's so important. 786 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: That's such a great tip. Splurge on a serum splurge 787 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: on something where you maybe should I need to, versus 788 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: something where you don't. I love that you brought that 789 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: up for me. It is a vitamin C serum. I 790 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: love the skin suticle cephyrulic and a lot of people ask, 791 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, your skin looks vibrant, it looks dewy. What 792 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: do you use? And I say, of vitamin C. Do 793 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: you think of vitamin C is important and everyone's skin 794 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: care routine. 795 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 3: I do. I would back it up and say an antioxidant, certainly. 796 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 3: I love vitamin C. I think it's super potent and 797 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 3: powerful and effective in helping to neutralize the free radicals 798 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 3: that are formed which cause cellular damage from environmental exposure, 799 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 3: whether that's pollution or sunlight, and vitamin C is the 800 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 3: one that's kind of the most ubiquitous. There are some 801 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 3: people who can't tolerate vitamin C, and for that, I 802 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: would say, let's find it an antioxidant that works for you. 803 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: And there's so many now that are in the morning 804 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: serums that are so good for the health of the skin, 805 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 3: and they're really there as an underlying safety net to 806 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 3: protect you against all of the things that we put 807 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: our skin into contact with. I mean, it's amazing that 808 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 3: we stay healthy and well as long as we do 809 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 3: when you think about all of the things that our 810 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 3: skin encounters. But another one that's a great powerful antioxidant. 811 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 3: It's called edie beanne and that tends to be very 812 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: well tolerated. Vitamin E is as, which is in your 813 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: CEPO rule it that's a great one. It works beautifully 814 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 3: in tandem with vitamin C. They're kind of synergistic in 815 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 3: their power. If you find that there's an ingredient that 816 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 3: you are not able to tolerate that everybody in the 817 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 3: world just things appraisals of, then consult a dermatologist and 818 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 3: will help. 819 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 5: You find one. 820 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 3: There are a million offerings, and so I never want 821 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 3: people to feel like they're not able to indulge and 822 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 3: be part of the ritual that everyone else is enjoying. 823 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 3: But most people, you know, most antioxidants do lean into 824 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 3: vitamin C because it is such a good one. 825 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: And what do you think is the biggest misconception when 826 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: it comes to skincare. 827 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 3: There's so many, I would say, oftentimes, especially in the actives, 828 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: that the concept this is such an American thing, like 829 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: more is more, You know, and it's not whether there 830 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: are concentrations that you're looking at, like there are sweet 831 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 3: spots for ingredients in the most active and the least 832 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 3: bit irritating. For example, with vitamin C, like we were 833 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 3: talking about, the most effective is between fifteen to twenty 834 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 3: percent in the skin. Above that it's more irritating, and 835 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 3: less than that, it's not as optimized as far as 836 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 3: our efficacy retinol or retinoids. Certainly, if you use more, 837 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: you're just going to increase the irritation. You're not going 838 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 3: to accelerate the effects or turbo boosts the effects. So 839 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 3: I feel like we got kind of obsessed with concentrations 840 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: when the Ordinary came out and it would put every 841 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 3: active in a bottle and it would put what the 842 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 3: concentration was, and so everyone kind of got very focused 843 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 3: on the number instead of like what is actually the 844 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: most important for our skins pathology or for our skins physiology, 845 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 3: And so those things are really important in medicine. Poisons 846 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 3: in the dose, right, So you can have a perfect 847 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 3: sweet spot of an aspirin a day, or you could 848 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 3: take twenty of them and that could be very detrimental. 849 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 3: It's the same active it's just the amount. So think 850 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 3: about that when you're trying to navigate this that more is. 851 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 5: Not always better. 852 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: And what do you want people to remember when it 853 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: comes to their skin. 854 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 3: I want them to remember that the skin care ritual 855 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 3: should be a pleasant one. 856 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 5: It should be something that you look forward to. 857 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 3: I find that a lot of patients take on a 858 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 3: lot of the heavy lifting at home, where they're ordering 859 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: the highest glycolic they can find on the internet and 860 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 3: really like stripping their barrier and doing more damage than good. 861 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 3: And so with my patients, we kind of enter into 862 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 3: a contract of like, I'm going to prescribe you a 863 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 3: proper skincare regimen that's going to augment our goals in office, 864 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 3: but I want you to leave the heavy lifting to me, 865 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 3: where I'm going to do the lasers or the procedures 866 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: to help you have your best skin. But that's going 867 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 3: to be once or twice a year, and at home, 868 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 3: you love and nurse your skin and really help it 869 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 3: to be the healthiest it can in order to protect you. 870 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 3: And the happy news, because I'm a mose surgeon and 871 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 3: did a fellowship in skin cancer. Even if you don't 872 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 3: care about the beauty of your skin. The healthiest skin 873 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 3: tends to look the most beautiful, so it's a win 874 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 3: win either way. However way we get there, if you're 875 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 3: protecting it and taking good care of it, it happens 876 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 3: to just. 877 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 5: Look great too. 878 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: And that's why you are the best of the best, 879 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: Doctor dn d How can people find you? Follow you 880 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: learn more. 881 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 3: At Doctor Dundee which is Dr d E n d Y. 882 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 3: Or you can come see me at Schaefer Clinic, Fifth Avenue. 883 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: She is the best. I don't know what I would 884 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: do without you. Thank you for your wisdom and your 885 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: care and for really putting out the right messages and 886 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: for helping people in a way that's attainable and not overwhelming, 887 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: and for just being a wealth of great information. 888 00:44:51,640 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me. I love you. 889 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: Win Sarafino, Hi Tommy, Hello, my love, Oh my god. 890 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: It's so exciting to be interviewing you because I'm sure, 891 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: as people know from social media, you are like family. 892 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: I mean, what would I do without you? I love 893 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: you so much. You are not just celebrity hair stylist guru. 894 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: You are family and I'm so happy you're here. 895 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me, and yes we 896 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 6: are family. So this does seem like a little awkward 897 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 6: because I'm sorry, like us just hanging out versus being 898 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 6: on a zoom call. 899 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 5: I've never had a zoom looking before. 900 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: I know, I know, but it was important for me 901 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: to do this with you because the whole purpose of 902 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: this episode is setting up people on the right foot 903 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: for the new year. And we've talked about fitness and 904 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: nutrition and skincare, and now I want to get into 905 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: the grooming world because I think a lot of people 906 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: don't know where to begin. And for me, you know, 907 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: I've told you this is zillion times. Your company, the 908 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: best paced has changed the game for me. I have 909 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 1: tried every hair product in the world, y'all. I'm from Jersey, 910 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm Italian, I have a thick head of hair. I 911 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: went through every hair phase and I've tried it all. 912 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: I've hated everything. But then I found you, and I 913 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: found your pace and it has seriously changed the game. 914 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: So I guess I want to begin there. Tell me 915 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: about your company and why is it so magical? 916 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 5: Wow, that is quite an introduction. 917 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 6: Yes, thank you first off for being the biggest supporter, 918 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 6: and I mean, just look at your hair. You look incredible, 919 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 6: The texture is remarkable today, the piece is my favorite, 920 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 6: the little piece of falls, which let everybody know that 921 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 6: is a natural experience when that little piece falls. I 922 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 6: also cut your hair, Tommy, so I know it very well. 923 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 6: So to start with The Best Pace, I had launched 924 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 6: it two years ago when the pandemic hit and like 925 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 6: so many of us, sort of reassess life. And the 926 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 6: opportunity was that I could purchase an existing grooming hair 927 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 6: care skincare company from Ben Miller, who is still very 928 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 6: heavily involved in the Best Paced. He approached me to 929 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 6: his company, which he had had for i'd say like 930 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 6: twelve fifteen years, and again everyone reassessed life. And he's 931 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 6: a single dad and his son sort of said, Dad, 932 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 6: I don't spend enough time with you, and so he 933 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 6: decided it was time called me up, said I'd like 934 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 6: for you to buy it. 935 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 5: That's just sort of how it went. 936 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 6: And when he asked me, I said, the one thing 937 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 6: that had to happen is that he had to stay 938 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,439 Speaker 6: a part of the company. And so then is still 939 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 6: very much a part of the Best Paste. But I 940 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 6: renamed it, repackaged it, rebranded it, we changed we went 941 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 6: for the highest quality ingredigents, which is something Ben always 942 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 6: wanted to do but didn't have the resources, and we 943 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 6: scaled back to the five essentials, which is hair paste. 944 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 6: I believe as a men's groomer and hairstylist, which is 945 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 6: my job as my day job, is that one of 946 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 6: the things that even looked for is styling products. And 947 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 6: so we created a hair paste that could. 948 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 5: Work for all hair types and textures. 949 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 6: Matt finished to know high shine, and I had doubt. 950 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 6: I actually taught me a really rather large market rescore 951 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 6: on men's grooming and men's hairstyle before I bark the company. 952 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 6: And what I found a really fascinating and I don't 953 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 6: know if it's necessarily is fascinating because I knew this 954 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 6: as a men's groomer, is that what men wanted to 955 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 6: know was the shine level and the hold. 956 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 5: That's all they cared about. 957 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 6: They didn't care it was called like dragon or you know, 958 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 6: like kick butt or anything like that. They just wanted 959 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 6: to know, bottom line, what's it going to do for me? 960 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 6: And so when I reading the packaging, I called it 961 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 6: the best paste because it's the best paste, and I 962 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 6: just named it what it was, which is Matt Firmhole 963 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 6: low Shine, you know, medium Hole, natural Shine Hot, medium Hole, Firmhole, 964 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 6: and I just called it what it is, and so 965 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 6: that's kind of how I came about. And the one 966 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 6: thing that's I think really unique about our product line 967 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 6: is that we manufacture it so from raw materials to 968 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 6: finish goods, so we physically make the products. Unlike so 969 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 6: many other vendors are product lines out there, they're made 970 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 6: in a in a factory that they don't control. I 971 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 6: control everything. So we're men and small batches. You know, 972 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 6: we have the little bubbles in the jars because everything's 973 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 6: hand filled. 974 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: And I can attest to the quality is so incredible. 975 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: And like you said, you have a bunch of different 976 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: products for different hair types, So no matter what your 977 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: hair type is, you can find a product from this 978 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: line that's gonna work for you. I use the Orange 979 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: the Matt firm Hold. I hate saying that because I 980 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna go away and everyone's gonna buy 981 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: them and I'm gonna be stuck without them, But that's 982 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: the one I use, and I think it's great for 983 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: the ladies listening to buy for the men in your life. 984 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,280 Speaker 1: For the men listening to find a product that's actually 985 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,919 Speaker 1: good and has quality ingredients in it. It's a win win. 986 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: But this is a product that even ladies can use 987 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: to touch up their hair, right, Yeah, So this. 988 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 5: Is what's crazy. 989 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 6: I was in a salon actually in Florida and women 990 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 6: I didn't even realize. I mean, I use it on myself. 991 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 6: So I use it for like beach hee, I have 992 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 6: long curly hair, beachy hair. I use it for slick 993 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 6: back ponytails. I use it for flyaways. And so I 994 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 6: was in the salon speaking with a stylist and she's like, oh, 995 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 6: it's like the boyfriend paste. And I was like, wait what, 996 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 6: And she's like, well, there's the boyfriend gan, a boyfriend blazer, 997 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 6: and now it's like the hair product you steal from 998 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 6: your man. And I went, whoa, that's exactly what it is. 999 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 6: It's a men's hair past that women are now using. 1000 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 6: So it's like one of those things, it's the boyfriend paste, 1001 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 6: it's you're basically it's a men's product that can be 1002 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 6: used for a woman. So I thought it was just 1003 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 6: pretty funny. How it started came about. 1004 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 1: That is so cool. I feel like we need to 1005 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: trademark that immediately. 1006 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 6: I know I probably should, but it's I mean, it 1007 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,439 Speaker 6: is one of those things like I didn't think about 1008 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 6: it because I like, I use it for my when 1009 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 6: I wore my hair curly down and you know, beat 1010 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 6: you waves when I were like my ponytail. Now I 1011 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 6: mean my hair I just threw up really quickly, you 1012 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 6: know style, the brushed it up, put it in a 1013 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 6: top knot. And this has been since I left for 1014 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 6: a pressure unker this morning. I think it was like 1015 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 6: six thirty seven o'clock. And this is as is. So 1016 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 6: I mean it's holding in place. And again for like flyways, 1017 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 6: it's great for like bridal hair. 1018 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 5: Oh and then someone. 1019 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 6: Just told me, I feel like I'm discovering this with you. 1020 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 6: But someone just said to me, They're like, oh, I 1021 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 6: use it as a root lifter, and I was like 1022 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 6: a root lifter, And so she has I've used it 1023 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 6: after a few days of blow dry, she didn't want 1024 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 6: to wash her hair, so she took a little bit 1025 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 6: of the orange your favorite the mat firm hole in 1026 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 6: her fingertips and just rubbed it into the root and 1027 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 6: because of the dry mat, it actually absorbed some of 1028 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 6: the oils. And she uses it as a rootlifter. I've 1029 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 6: never heard of that. 1030 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: I know well because when you make it, when you 1031 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: make a quality product like this, there are going to 1032 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 1: be many different uses for it, and that's the testament 1033 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: to what you created. So everybody listening, for my gentleman listening, 1034 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: you need to get this product. Go on the best 1035 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: paste dot com. Correct, yes, sir, the best paste dot 1036 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,280 Speaker 1: Com and check out all the products. Again, if you 1037 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: know me and you know my hair, I use the 1038 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: orange which is the mat firm hole, but there's a 1039 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: variety of different products, and the ladies too. Either buy 1040 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: it for the man in your life, or you can 1041 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: use it, as Kristen said, to touch up your hair, 1042 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: to throw it in with a slick bun for your roots, 1043 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: all of the above. So I love all of that 1044 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: so much, and I'm happy to share that. I'm not 1045 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,720 Speaker 1: just plugging it because you're my best friend. I'm plugging 1046 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: it because I believe in it. And I have spent 1047 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: so much money and time and energy trying to find 1048 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: the right hair product and nothing ever really worked. So 1049 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: when I find something, I want to share it. So 1050 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: that's the best paced. Go check that out and then 1051 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: on the hairstyling side, because you are a brilliant hairstylist 1052 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,280 Speaker 1: as well. What would you say is a good tip 1053 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 1: for people looking to change their look and not knowing 1054 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: where to begin. It's a new year, people might want 1055 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: to refresh here should they begin? 1056 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 6: That's a great question, and I think that's one of 1057 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 6: those things like everyone like new year, new beginning, new body, 1058 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 6: new hairstyle. And I think the first thing that I 1059 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:43,399 Speaker 6: tell people is that pictures and magazines, actors, celebrities are references, right, 1060 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 6: So it's like you should bring a picture in that 1061 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 6: you're inspired by, but know that it might not be 1062 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 6: your hair texture, your face shape. It's an inspiration, and 1063 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 6: then use that as a guideline for your lifestyle, hair texture, 1064 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 6: daily routines. I want to look like this. 1065 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 5: Does that make sense? 1066 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: It does? It does? And you think that will create 1067 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: a more helpful image for what somebody wants. 1068 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 6: I think that that's a good guyeline because I think 1069 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 6: we all have these sort of aspirations that I want 1070 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 6: to look like this particular person, but you're not that person. 1071 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 6: And I think you know this happens to me behind 1072 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 6: the chair, like someone will come into me and they'll say, oh, well, 1073 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 6: you know, just today. I did someone with her today. 1074 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 6: I did a haircut today. They had really long hair 1075 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 6: and they showed me an image of someone with like 1076 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 6: a shorter haircut. But they had wavy, wavy hair, like 1077 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 6: naturally texture beachy, you know, like they wanted a bob, 1078 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 6: but it was like a beachy texture that you could tell. 1079 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 6: This girl in her instagram had just you know, on 1080 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 6: the beach, playing volleyball. Wherever she was, she always just 1081 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 6: had the same sort of texture hair, so I could 1082 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 6: tell it was her natural texture. 1083 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 5: It wasn't stylized. 1084 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 6: But the girl that I was cutting today had bone 1085 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 6: straight hair, like zero bend in it. I said, well, 1086 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 6: she's like, oh, I love her texture. 1087 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 5: I lay the way it looks. 1088 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 6: I love the waves in it. And the reality is 1089 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,959 Speaker 6: is someone with that super you know, pin straight hair 1090 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 6: will never achieve that natural, beaty texture. It's just not 1091 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 6: what their hair is, so we use it as an inspiration. 1092 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 6: Might it gave her the realization or even though she 1093 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 6: knew she had straight hair, I was like, you can 1094 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 6: still have weavy hair when you style it. You can 1095 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 6: still achieve that look if you put the effort into it. 1096 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 6: But if you know that every day you're not going 1097 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 6: to look like this, but we're going to be inspired 1098 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 6: by it, and it's going to be your version of 1099 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 6: that haircut. Then you'll have the same confidence as you 1100 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 6: do when you look at that image. 1101 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: This might be one of the hardest questions you've ever 1102 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: been asking your entire career. Ready for it. Okay, if 1103 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: you could give me only one hair tip that will 1104 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: help everybody listening right now. What would that hairtip be. 1105 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 6: I think the hairtip that I would give, which is 1106 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 6: the one hair tip. And I've said this to you before, 1107 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 6: I've said this to your husband, GEO, is that hair 1108 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 6: is the one accessory wear every day. It should constantly evolve. 1109 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 6: Like I always say behind the chair, would you wear 1110 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 6: that same jacket every day for the rest of your life? 1111 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 6: You probably wouldn't. So if you're not going to wear 1112 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 6: the same shirt or style of clothing, always evolve your hairstyle. 1113 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 6: Whether it's a subtle highlight, I mean it could be 1114 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 6: subtle extreme. You can have a subtle highlight. You can 1115 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 6: go from your color hair to platinum lawn. If you 1116 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 6: want to go extreme, you can go from long hair 1117 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 6: to short hair, sweeping fringe to short fringe. As long 1118 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 6: as You've constantly evolved because in life, our life continues 1119 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 6: to change, right no matter where we are in or 1120 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,720 Speaker 6: whether it's age, whether it's a milestone, whether it's body shape, 1121 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 6: whatever it may be. So constantly evolve your hairstyle as 1122 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 6: your life is evolving. 1123 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 5: That's my one thing. 1124 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: I love that. I kind of love that more. And yes, 1125 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: you say to me all the time when sometimes I'm 1126 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 1: like I want the same cut, You're. 1127 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 6: Like, no, oh, oh my gosh. You're the perfect example. 1128 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 6: I mean, can I like totally call you out on this, Tommy, Yes, yes, Okay. 1129 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 6: You came to me with like, I want this hairstyle, 1130 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 6: and we I don't want to say we fought, but 1131 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 6: we fought encouraged you for so long to grow your hair, 1132 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 6: and you were just, oh my gosh, like honestly, Tommy, 1133 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 6: like I'm exhausted. 1134 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 5: I was exhausted. 1135 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 6: I was like, why will he not? But you and 1136 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 6: I understood you had an experience that wasn't a good one, 1137 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 6: so you were sort of traumatized. But I said, let's 1138 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 6: just try it, and you fought me on it, and 1139 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 6: we just by default because I was traveling and you 1140 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 6: were traveling, so your hair just got long and now 1141 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, we have taken to just different 1142 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 6: levels with your hair and now you love it. 1143 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 5: And we keep changing. 1144 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 6: We take the side short, we change the texture, we 1145 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 6: cut it short on the top of we let the 1146 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 6: peace gale lommer. So we're always evolving you, even though 1147 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 6: it's a confident place for you to be within your hairstyle. 1148 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 1: You're right, and you're very right about that. I think 1149 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: you a little. 1150 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 5: I called you out. 1151 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: You know what. Now I got to wrap this up 1152 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: where more secrets are going to be revealed and we're 1153 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 1: not about to spill all the tea on me. So 1154 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 1: we're not. No, no, we're not. And I'm gonna talk 1155 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: to you after this. But yeah, you're in trouble. You're 1156 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: in trouble where I live. M H. I couldn't love 1157 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: you more. Thank you for coming on and sharing your wisdom. 1158 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: You are the best of the best. Seriously check out 1159 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: her brand The best pace dot com. Kristen Serafino celebrity 1160 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: hairstylist changing the world. I love you, thank you for 1161 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: joining and Happy New Year. 1162 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 5: I love you, Tommy, Happy New Year, and thank you 1163 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 5: for having me. 1164 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. Is hosted by me, Tommy Dederio. 1165 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio 1166 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. 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