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Speaker 1: how did you get involved with it? Well, uh, it's

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Speaker 1: You know, I always would drink tea like that. What

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Speaker 1: so walk us through the whole scenario. Welcome, Hello, good morning,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Tease Me Cafe. Is this your first time? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Any food in here? Any food? You have lots of food.

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Speaker 1: So we serve breakfast and we serve lunch. We're open

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Speaker 1: what what? What type of dessert? We have? Women cake,

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Speaker 1: We have carrot cake. We have carrot carrot cake. I'm there.

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Speaker 1: how's this? How is how are the options brought to

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Speaker 1: But you're telling me, look, ros Sean, you can get

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Speaker 1: I think you know, I always say that when we

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be great in the classroom, We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: great in the community. But beyond all of that, I

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Speaker 1: I think about what can I give? How can I

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Speaker 1: contact with? And you do and I've seen that sixteen

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Speaker 1: How was that transition, Like, you know, when you walked

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Speaker 1: verbating my schedule for not just sixteen years of the pro,

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