WEBVTT - Point After Week 17

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<v Speaker 1>now here are your hosts, Rob King, Craig Wolfley, and

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Williamson.

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<v Speaker 2>And we thank you for being with us in the

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<v Speaker 2>Point After on the Steelers Audio Network. Following the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>lost to the Chiefs twenty nine to ten on Christmas Day,

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<v Speaker 2>but perhaps more importantly looking ahead to hopefully some point

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<v Speaker 2>after touchdowns against the Cincinnati Bengals on Saturday night. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's begin by talking about the Chiefs. Our first reaction

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<v Speaker 2>is brought to you by First National Bank. Let's get started,

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<v Speaker 2>Member FDIC, Craig Wolfey, Let's start with you your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on what you saw with the Steelers game against the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it was summarized quite frankly by head

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<v Speaker 3>coach Mike Tomlin it sucked. I mean, it just was

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<v Speaker 3>not the game that you had expected that was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be out there in front of everybody. They came

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<v Speaker 3>out and they weren't able to establish what they wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to do that. Yeah, they ran the ball well, but

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<v Speaker 3>really it was all about trying to shut down Pat

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<v Speaker 3>Mahomes to some degree, and that just didn't happen. And

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<v Speaker 3>for the Steelers, you know, again it was one of

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<v Speaker 3>those things where you know, you got five sacks and

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<v Speaker 3>you had some ball bounces the wrong way yet again,

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<v Speaker 3>and even though they were able to rush for two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred plus yards, which normally would signify a victory in

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<v Speaker 3>any game, you know, it just did not materialize and

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<v Speaker 3>they lost to the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know, I was like to look at

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<v Speaker 4>the opponent in these shows too, and I think the

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<v Speaker 4>Chiefs are probably playing their best ball of the year,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was a really buttoned up, clean performance by them.

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<v Speaker 4>What they missed an extra point, but I can't remember

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<v Speaker 4>really any self inflicted wounds by Kansas. He Mahomes was tremendous,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, to put it mildly, I mean, the ball

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<v Speaker 4>came out of his hands incredibly quick and even like

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<v Speaker 4>unblocked pressures didn't get to him. I mean, the ball

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<v Speaker 4>came out so fast and he was so precise with it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's got to be better. I mean, it did suck.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the Steelers didn't play winning football. And Wolf

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<v Speaker 4>mention it, there's a couple of things that haven't gone

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<v Speaker 4>their way. They've they've caused fumbles, but they haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>able to pick them up, you know, like those things

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<v Speaker 4>will correct themselves, but you got to be better and

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<v Speaker 4>both trenches. I thought the secondary got picked on quite

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<v Speaker 4>a bit and is worrisome without you know, Porter in particular,

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<v Speaker 4>but just in general and overall, it's just not good

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<v Speaker 4>enough against the big dogs, you know. I mean he

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<v Speaker 4>played three really good teams in a row, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>not quite as good as those guys. I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 2>So Matt, let me ask you this because Wolf and

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<v Speaker 2>I have talked about this, and Wolf, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on this as well. You know, I look

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<v Speaker 2>at this game and try to put it in a

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<v Speaker 2>larger context of what you just said. You know, this

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<v Speaker 2>three game sort of measuring rod and you didn't scoreboard

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<v Speaker 2>says you did not measure up, and I look back at,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, an uncharacteristic drop pitch by Najie Harris as

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<v Speaker 2>you're marching in potentially to tie the game up again.

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<v Speaker 2>I use the word potentially advisedly because we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>whether they would have scored a touchdown, kicked a field goal,

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<v Speaker 2>what would have happened, whether you could have tied the

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<v Speaker 2>game up, whether that would have stemmed the tide. But

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<v Speaker 2>it could have tied that game up. Baltimore, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you lose it you don't pounce on a couple of fumbles,

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<v Speaker 2>but Russell Wilson's taking it in. What happens if you

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<v Speaker 2>score a touchdown there instead of turning it over again uncharacteristically?

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<v Speaker 2>What happens if they don't call what again looked to

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<v Speaker 2>me to be a dubious holding call on Darnold Washington

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<v Speaker 2>that nullified a touchdown, and then the next play you

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<v Speaker 2>throw an interception. You score there, You're actually ahead if

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<v Speaker 2>you exchange field goals in the third quarter, you go

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<v Speaker 2>into the fourth quarter ahead against the Chiefs. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a double edged sword saying that because these these scores

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<v Speaker 2>get you in the game, or tied in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe a slight lead in a game, but you

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<v Speaker 2>still had other chances to respond and did not. So

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have that caveat out there still when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at it in that light, Matt does it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a Steelers fan, should you be encouraged that

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<v Speaker 2>had you gotten a break or two, had you not

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<v Speaker 2>done some things that were uncharacteristic which you can't do

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<v Speaker 2>to beat good teams, that you could have played with

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<v Speaker 2>all these teams and potentially won one or more of

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<v Speaker 2>these games.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Okay, I mean it's a lovely way of looking

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<v Speaker 4>at it, and it's an optimistic way of looking at

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<v Speaker 4>it that and you didn't say this, but if Nause

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't fumble that ball on the pitch, well then they're

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<v Speaker 4>in the you know, then they're right in this thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I just never in any.

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<v Speaker 4>Of these games felt like the Steelers were the better

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<v Speaker 4>team or in control of the game or taking control

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<v Speaker 4>of the game. And yeah, it could have certainly gone different.

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<v Speaker 4>But I bet if we were sitting here in Kansas City, Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 4>or Philly, we could probably find two or three plays

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<v Speaker 4>at our favorite team uncharacter riistically dropped the pass or

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<v Speaker 4>had a hold or something as well that, oh, we

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<v Speaker 4>could have want even bigger, you know, I mean right,

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<v Speaker 4>there's two ways of looking at it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, and Wolf, I've said this before. The scenario I

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<v Speaker 2>just laid out to Matt. I'd feel better about convincing

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<v Speaker 2>myself one hundred percent. And I'm partially convinced. I still am.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say those things if I didn't think I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit convinced. But I'd be more convinced

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<v Speaker 2>if you know, some different things happened. So after you

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<v Speaker 2>know Kareem Hunt, or after that, you know Kareem Hunt

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<v Speaker 2>two yard touchdown run. Just in this most recent game, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they go up twenty two ten. Okay, now you respond

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<v Speaker 2>by going down the field and making it twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen and turning it into a one possession game with

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<v Speaker 2>say nine minutes left on the clock. You didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>that going back to Philadelphia. Maybe somewhere in a thirteen play,

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen play and twenty one play. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>second half. You know the drive lengths for the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 2>You made it stopping there somewhere and gave yourself one

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<v Speaker 2>more chance to get back in it. I'd be more

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<v Speaker 2>convinced if those things had happened but I can also

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<v Speaker 2>understand that you said, hey, we didn't play if you,

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<v Speaker 2>as a fan said hey, I didn't we didn't play

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<v Speaker 2>complimentary football. We didn't do some of the small things

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<v Speaker 2>that emerge bigger when you're playing better teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the whole thing is you can make any sort

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<v Speaker 3>of argument you want. You know, there's there's lies, dang lies,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there's statistics. As the saying goes, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. And I will tell you this quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never felt like you didn't have a puncher's chance.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't help myself. That's just the player's mentality that

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<v Speaker 3>I still have to this day. It is what it is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And you can sit there and quote me

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<v Speaker 3>stats and I'll just look at you and go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you know, the buttefs get you nowhere. The

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<v Speaker 3>point being is this, you went into a three game

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<v Speaker 3>Cheese Greater Gauntlet and you were hoping for much better

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<v Speaker 3>success than what you came out with. It cost you some,

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<v Speaker 3>You got some flesh taking off, you were a little

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<v Speaker 3>blood letting and everything else. And I do believe that,

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<v Speaker 3>I still believe without a doubt that if you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a certain play here a certain play there, you could

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<v Speaker 3>have turned the thing around. It didn't happen. I believe

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<v Speaker 3>in the power of the one eleventh. Everybody's got to

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<v Speaker 3>win their one eleventh to a majority of the degree

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<v Speaker 3>of the time. You know what I mean. You cannot

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<v Speaker 3>have one guy not doing it and ten guys doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>As who is that? Cam Hayward said. The fact of

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<v Speaker 3>the matter is everybody's got to be on board and

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<v Speaker 3>do their one eleventh. And when you don't do that,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, let's and let's let's be truthful too. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>in this league is a superior player. If you get

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<v Speaker 3>to this level, you are in a very small percentage

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<v Speaker 3>in the world of guys that can that that are

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<v Speaker 3>able to do it. And the thing about it is,

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<v Speaker 3>if you if guys were doing their job at the

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<v Speaker 3>point in time, things could be different. They weren't. You

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<v Speaker 3>got to move on. But you've got to find a

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<v Speaker 3>way to turn this ship around. And it can be

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<v Speaker 3>done with the with the next snap. I've seen it happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been part of teams that have had that. It

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<v Speaker 3>has happened. When people said there's just no way that

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<v Speaker 3>you could do that, you find a way and that

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<v Speaker 3>can the power of that is still there, and I

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<v Speaker 3>believe in the power of the one snap Rob.

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<v Speaker 4>Real quick to how I answered it too, is is

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't mean it like, boy, there's no chance ever

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<v Speaker 4>in the history of the world they can't hang with

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<v Speaker 4>these teams. I mean, that's not exactly what I meant,

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<v Speaker 4>But I on those days, I thought it was pretty

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<v Speaker 4>clear on all three of those afternoons evenings whatever, they

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<v Speaker 4>were the inferior team and it wasn't just a bounce

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<v Speaker 4>away or anything like that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And I will say this so so Wolf before

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<v Speaker 2>we get much further. I enjoy hearing your story of

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<v Speaker 2>early on one season. I think you lost the Browns

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<v Speaker 2>at fifty one.

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<v Speaker 4>We were just talking about it, get right, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you would have to bring that, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, you know, tell the people that story, and then

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<v Speaker 2>as you're doing it, tell us all how that turnaround

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<v Speaker 2>possibly could have happened. So go ahead and lay the

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<v Speaker 2>story out there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was remarkable in the sense of nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty nine we opened at three Rivers Stadium against the

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<v Speaker 3>Cleveland Browns at home, and we lost fifty one to nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we lost. It was a turn I think

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<v Speaker 3>We had eight turnovers in that game. It was just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Every other time it seemed like the ball was going

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<v Speaker 3>the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can.

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<v Speaker 3>Truthfully say that I was so dispirited and so down.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to start a fighting the fourth quarter, and

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get thrown out because the referee knew what

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<v Speaker 3>was going on. Yeah, it's like you deserve to stay

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<v Speaker 3>in there. The point being is we lost fifty one

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing, and everybody was kind of traumatized to a

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you kidding me? The Browns come in and just

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<v Speaker 5>pound you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to talk about a game that you

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<v Speaker 3>weren't even in before it was over, that was the game.

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<v Speaker 3>So then we think, okay, back to the drawing board.

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<v Speaker 3>Work hard, you got three hard practices at three rivers.

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<v Speaker 3>You're pounding out in full pads on the artificial turf.

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<v Speaker 3>You go into Cincinnati, We're gonna whop them, and they

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<v Speaker 3>beat us forty five to ten. Now, optimist and me said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we cut out six points defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>And we scored ten.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, so we're getting better in the right.

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<v Speaker 3>This is hanging. You're grasping that straw. Okay, like a

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<v Speaker 3>dying man on the Titanic. You are grasping at that

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<v Speaker 3>life saver. So we've gotten week three. We've got the

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<v Speaker 3>two and zero Minnesota Vikings coming in, who have just

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<v Speaker 3>been terrorizing the first couple of teams that they played

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone just wrote us off. They made a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of adjustments, started this guy that guy a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was just a couple of guys, and boom,

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<v Speaker 3>we beat the Vikings miraculously, unbelievably so beat. The Vikings

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<v Speaker 3>finished that season with one drop pass away from going

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<v Speaker 3>to the AFC Championship, and it was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most remarkable turnarounds ever seen. I certainly the most remarkable

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<v Speaker 3>turnaround I've ever been a part of. But it came

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<v Speaker 3>down to guys that refused to give up, guys that

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<v Speaker 3>refused to accept the fact that we were less than

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<v Speaker 3>what we were, and guys started to win more of

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<v Speaker 3>their one elevenths and then you get this snowball effect.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really what happened. And that's why I say

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in the power of the next snap. Get

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<v Speaker 3>that next snap.

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<v Speaker 2>And boom.

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<v Speaker 3>You never know when you're going to start that comeback thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the other thing you beat the Browns a couple

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<v Speaker 2>weeks later, didn't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah we did. Oh yeah, the same team that

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<v Speaker 3>beat that got fifty one nothing. We went into Cleveland

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<v Speaker 3>and beat them. I believe it was four weeks later,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty four, fourteen or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we beat them.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, and it was just it was incredible

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't know how you turn around from fifty

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<v Speaker 3>one to nothing with the same people go in there,

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<v Speaker 3>but we did.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the questions, how did it happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, guys won more than one eleventh. That's the simple

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<v Speaker 3>thing about it. You didn't turn the ball over, you

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<v Speaker 3>were able to win possession downs, Guys made the block

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<v Speaker 3>at key points, Guys covered at the right points that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't all those things come together, and you had

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<v Speaker 3>a determination to stay with it. I will say this

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<v Speaker 3>that the the funniest part was after this the second game, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>Chuck Dole had us in the team meeting room and

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<v Speaker 3>h there was a headline in the USA today and says,

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<v Speaker 3>has the game bypassed Chuck Nolan. Chuck was adamant and

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<v Speaker 3>making sure, listen, what you put into your brain is

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<v Speaker 3>what's gonna come out in effort all right, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure you you make sure that you're not

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<v Speaker 3>reading a lot of garbage and you're getting that negative,

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<v Speaker 3>just as Russ was talking about this morning, the negativity

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<v Speaker 3>that's associated with losing like that, you gotta keep that

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<v Speaker 3>from your brain. So they said, you know, let me

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<v Speaker 3>tell you you got a pool. Well, at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>we know Chuck's gonna tell a story, and everybody's already gone,

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<v Speaker 3>the eyes are kind of glazing over and stuff. And

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<v Speaker 3>he talked about the you know, amount of chlorine and

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<v Speaker 3>all other constituent parts of you know, doing this, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's and he can tell he's losing.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole room's like going, oh, you gotta be kidding me.

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<v Speaker 3>And finally Chuck gets frustrated, says, what I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you is don't let anybody pee in your pool.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, don't don't be taken in by the

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<v Speaker 3>negativity of everybody else, and make sure that you protect

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<v Speaker 3>in your mind what's going on. And I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was the key. You know, the battle cry became over

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<v Speaker 3>the next several weeks, the onlybody pe in your pool?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, Well, I don't know how we can do

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<v Speaker 2>better than that. I'm Matt's pretty great. I think at

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<v Speaker 2>this stage of the game we should probably go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and take a break.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good one, good way in which, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, there's nothing to add to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep those pools clean, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Williamson, Oh, former pool cleaner, right, cleaning back of

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<v Speaker 2>the day.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm surprised you knew that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I did out through college and then I

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<v Speaker 4>bought the business. And coincidentally, you get winners off whenever

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<v Speaker 4>you're a Pittsburgh pool owner. And so I started volunteering

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<v Speaker 4>at Duquine and threw away a very successful pool business

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<v Speaker 4>and joined the Pit Panthers.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are glad you did.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll be doo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh good.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a good conversation with the wife. Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna make twelve grand a year as a GA at

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<v Speaker 4>pitt and throw his pool business away.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think? Yeah, go for it, Matt. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure you'll be really successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Great. Yeah, that's probably were her love of Halloween started

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<v Speaker 2>years later or whatever. Yeah, yeah, it turned out to

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<v Speaker 2>be a treat for us. We're going to continue on

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<v Speaker 2>clear pool services.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, don't in the pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's Matt Williams said, along with Craig hopefully I'm

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<v Speaker 2>rob kidt you're listening to the point after on the

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<v Speaker 5>Back to the point after on dv E play.

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<v Speaker 2>Action pass rolling out to the left, Wilson trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get to the edge. Wilson dies one two step and

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<v Speaker 2>three is in for six touchdown Pittsburgh Steelers first rushing

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown of the year for Russell Wilson. Uh. The play

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<v Speaker 2>So there were some moments in that game, guys, as

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<v Speaker 2>we welcome you back to the point after on this

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<v Speaker 2>stee there's audio network. You know, we talked about that

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<v Speaker 2>game and Wolf. You know, Russ is going in against

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<v Speaker 2>Baltimore with an opportunity to give you an early fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>to seven lead. Fumbles they turn around and score. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when when you look at what's been going on with

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers and the things to clean up and Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Tom want address the media earlier today. I would think, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>turnovers have to be at the very top of the list,

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<v Speaker 2>creating more turnovers and having fewer turnovers. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about, you know, the naugy pitch that never happens

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<v Speaker 2>with Nagee. We talked about Russell Wilson. He's not a

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<v Speaker 2>guy I would expect to fumble against Baltimore or there

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<v Speaker 2>were opportunities I think for the team to get the lead. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the lack of response is one thing, but playing with

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<v Speaker 2>the lead, you know, for me that that imbues the

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<v Speaker 2>team with confidence and also puts you in a position

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<v Speaker 2>to eventually get the game to go the way you

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<v Speaker 2>want to, to not be one dimensional, but to force

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<v Speaker 2>the other team to get one dimensional. Maybe that's just

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<v Speaker 2>an end of half scenario. Maybe it's an end of

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<v Speaker 2>game scenario. But these things go hand in hand to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd like to get your your thoughts on that. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also a win the first two downs scenario. You

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<v Speaker 3>win the first two downs and you put them in

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<v Speaker 3>a position where they're behind the chains, they're in the

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<v Speaker 3>off schedule, and now you've got to make up ground.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's where you always want to be defensively speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to have kind of like your foot kind

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<v Speaker 3>of on the throat of the offense, or at least

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<v Speaker 3>a three and out, if not a turnover or a

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<v Speaker 3>takeaway because maybe they got to exceed their reach a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit in a throw or in a run, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know you're always poised for that. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>a team, you know, It's what's amazing is this is

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<v Speaker 3>a team that was plus seventeen going into this three

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<v Speaker 3>game gauntlet stretch here and now you know, everything turned around.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a team that the ball seem to find.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys where you know, they work each and every day.

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<v Speaker 3>I watch them in practice. They work every day on

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<v Speaker 3>ball searching skills, on ball security, offensively, depending on which

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<v Speaker 3>side of line of scrims you line up, they work

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<v Speaker 3>at all those aspects of it. And in my experience,

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<v Speaker 3>you always have the worm turns eventually, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 3>when you stay dedicated to working the fundamentals and you

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<v Speaker 3>stay positive about it and know that's part of your job,

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<v Speaker 3>part of what you do. When you get into reflexive

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<v Speaker 3>movements and a pile up and a tackle or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side of it, whether it's offensively and

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<v Speaker 3>protecting the ball and so forth. But these are the things.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to have faith that your work is going

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<v Speaker 3>to bear out and provide fruit inside the stadiums in

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<v Speaker 3>game day. And that's something that is integral and you're

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<v Speaker 3>working at it, and you can't just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, breeze through and go okay, I got more

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<v Speaker 3>ball searching. You know, it's drills here or ball security drills. No,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to put your whole heart and effort into

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<v Speaker 3>it and your mindset too, because the person who looks

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<v Speaker 3>for it, who refuses to be discouraged by it but

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<v Speaker 3>keeps looking, is the person that's going to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>So Matt, let's get discouraged. Miss You and I do

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<v Speaker 2>that together.

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<v Speaker 3>So either way, if you get too discouraged, have a

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<v Speaker 3>nice chocolate chip cookie, take a deep breath, and then

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<v Speaker 3>get back to work.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds excellent, sage advice. Thank you, my friend. The

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<v Speaker 2>last three games, you know, going into this gauntlet, and

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<v Speaker 2>again we understand no pickings for some of this, but

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<v Speaker 2>when I look at the offense first, you're averaging you know,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight twenty nine points per game with Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>as your quarterback. Those opponents are the Jets, the Giants. Okay, Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>you only score eighteen against Baltimore, you lose by scoring

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen against Cleveland. You drop forty four on Cincinnati. You

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<v Speaker 2>score twenty seven against Cleveland. So, on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>the offense looks completely different than it has at any time,

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<v Speaker 2>probably since Ben Roethlisberger was your quarterback, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in his heyday, and even maybe the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of the twenty twenty season when they were doing the

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<v Speaker 2>quick throwing and not really pressing the ball down the field. Regardless,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a while since we've seen the offense look

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<v Speaker 2>that good. I think. Then, you know, you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the quality of opponents improving, and you're looking at thirteen points,

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen points, and ten points. That that's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>cut the mustard come playoff time. So in your opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>what needs to happen for this offense to be better?

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<v Speaker 2>And is there any encouragement you can take from the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the last two games at least they've run

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<v Speaker 2>the ball better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I definitely think there's some encouragement there. I mean that, now,

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<v Speaker 4>let's not forget that there was what one drive at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the Chiefs game where Nausey's racking up

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of rushing yards against very little pump.

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<v Speaker 2>PETENTI what over a thousand, by the way, congratulations, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Impressive feet, no question. But I do think they ran

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<v Speaker 4>the ball well in that game from start to finish.

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<v Speaker 5>Basically.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the running game look like it's turning the

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<v Speaker 4>corner and it's something that they can rely on. Back

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<v Speaker 4>to the turnover situation, I think that's bound to go

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<v Speaker 4>back to where it was or close to, because it's

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<v Speaker 4>something they've been really, really good at for years. To

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<v Speaker 4>be honest, is they're very opportunistic on defense, and they

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<v Speaker 4>have caused some turnovers over this stretch, and they do

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<v Speaker 4>value the football. Nause he's not a fumbler. Wilson doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have a long history or turn the ball over either.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of the reasons he's here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>So part of that was just some bad luck.

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<v Speaker 4>And I also think that Pickens is a one of

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<v Speaker 4>the guys you can't really replace. I mean, everybody can

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<v Speaker 4>step up, but he's a noticeably chunk better than his

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<v Speaker 4>teammates at his respective position. So he's coming back. And

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<v Speaker 4>I also think it's huge that you have a nice

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<v Speaker 4>long stretch before you play your next two games. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Bengals are coming up here on Saturday, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know a playoff game wherever that ends up. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that there was a lot of fatigue on

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<v Speaker 4>this team, rightfully, So you know, I mean, for of

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<v Speaker 4>these teams had to play three games in eleven days,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's Frankly, I don't think the NFL has player

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<v Speaker 4>safety in mind at all whenever they designed that, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's a bit of a money grab. And we're seeing

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<v Speaker 4>games every night of the week this week, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a little crazy. But two of those teams, Houston and

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<v Speaker 4>Baltimore at least had a week fourteen by you know,

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<v Speaker 4>where the Steelers are on the road a bunch before

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<v Speaker 4>the three stretch, and then you start to see that

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<v Speaker 4>three game stretch with Philly where the defense like never

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<v Speaker 4>left the field in the second half. And where I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going with this is just get back to winning time

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<v Speaker 4>of possession. You know, like when you walked into Philly,

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<v Speaker 4>you are the best time of possession team in the league,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's dropped quite a bit over the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean three weeks, but You're still above average

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<v Speaker 4>and it's still how you're built. And with a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of fresher legs, a little bit of health, if

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<v Speaker 4>you can get back to holding the ball for thirty

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<v Speaker 4>three to thirty four minutes, everything else will kind of

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<v Speaker 4>fall into place.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to tell you, he is, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead. Well if I just want to throw this

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<v Speaker 2>out real quick to Matt, because you mentioned the schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to lose this, and then I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get your thought. Yeah, the Chiefs announcer told me.

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<v Speaker 2>The play by play guy was talking Tom before the game,

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<v Speaker 2>said the Chiefs have played on every day of the

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<v Speaker 2>week except Tuesday this year. Yeah. I heard.

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<v Speaker 5>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is insane. I'm sorry, Well, go ahead, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I just had to throw that in there.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and I mean Matt is exactly correct, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the accumulative fatigue that comes with all that,

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<v Speaker 3>that is something to be accounted for, and certainly for

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<v Speaker 3>the players, they've got to get back to re establishing

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<v Speaker 3>their routines. One of the things I've always said is

0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:00.560
<v Speaker 3>players are very routine creatures. You know, we live by

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.119
<v Speaker 3>the routine. You know, five days out, you do this,

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 3>four days out, three, days two one. You know, you

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 3>have this routine of preparation that leads you into and

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 3>when you have kind of like very where you're you're

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 3>piling days four, three and two into one, it creates

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 3>some problems. But listen, everybody whoever was there had to

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 3>go through it too, whoever played in those those both

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 3>in those games. But the fact is it does create

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<v Speaker 3>some of those Some guys handle it better than others.

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's just the way it is. But certainly,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you look at this and you think to yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>if they you know, if they were playing these games

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<v Speaker 3>at a full full week off and so forth, and

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<v Speaker 3>you had the opportunity to rethink some things, you know,

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 3>I think things would be different. But that's just me,

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 3>and that's my kind of optimistic players type of you know,

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 3>that's how I see things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if I think one of the things that makes

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<v Speaker 2>me optimistic that this team can regain its offensive roof,

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, to me, they've got I think, you know,

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Pat Fryarmith is a really good tight end, and there's

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 2>guys they can utilize in different ways. But I you know,

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 2>and Calvin Austin can be a weapon. Carl Pickens is

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Carl Pickens playing Cincinnati already got my thoughts on the

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>former Tennessee grad. Uh so George Pickens. But to me, man,

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.199
<v Speaker 2>we are seeing the best of Jalen Warren, and Jalen

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Warren uh in his own way, can be a real

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<v Speaker 2>weapon on this team. And I think that you know,

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you talk about you know, we were a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us were critical. I think of Atlanta and not using

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk Cousins in the preseason and some of these teams

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.880
<v Speaker 2>getting off to slow starts because they didn't play their

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.679
<v Speaker 2>guys in the preseason. Well, Jalen Warren was hurt and

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to come back without that preseason, without the

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>regular season, without the regular reps. It looks to me

0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 2>like right now this is the Jaalen Warren we seen

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.439
<v Speaker 2>in the last couple of years. This is an explosive runner,

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>a guy I would love to see get the ball

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<v Speaker 2>out in space because I think he can do things

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>with it. This guy, I think can be a weapon

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 2>for this year. There's and I think that he is

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<v Speaker 2>peaking as we get to the end of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no question in my mind that that's occurring right now.

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, whatever the groove is. The groove has really

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 3>been established with Jalen Warren doing some very positive things.

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 3>And that's not taking away anything away from Nagy. Nage

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 3>has been superb all season, long, worked tired. He's a banger.

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 3>You got, you got a thumper, and you got a bumper.

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 3>When the bumper is is Jalen Warren. This guy bounces

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 3>off of things and and does things that are different

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 3>than what than what Nagy's does, and Nage does things

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 3>that are different than what Jalen does. But I love

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 3>the aspect in which right now when you see when

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 3>you see Jalen, he's feeling it. I mean, this guy

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 3>is hotter than a bowl of Texas chili, you know.

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.879
<v Speaker 3>I mean he really is a guy that he you know,

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 3>he sees the blocking schematics and he sees the hole,

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 3>he reacts, he sees he does you know, I mean

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 3>that sort of a sead type thing. He's doing it,

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 3>and you love the fact that he's so good in

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 3>open space also with catching the ball, and that's where

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the things if you saw what

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs did, you think about Xavier Worthy and some

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 3>of the things he did with the lateral passing game,

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 3>and that's exactly how Jalen could be utilized too, in

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 3>a manner of such as that very positively.

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<v Speaker 4>So and Rob you kind of mentioned it, but I

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 4>just wanted to kind of reiterate it too. It's clear

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 4>that Warren is trending up in a big way right now,

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 4>but I also think Austin and Frearmuth are trending in

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 4>the right direction as well. And some of it's because

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Pickens was out. Somebody has to step up, and maybe

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 4>he didn't win the game, but so good things happened

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 4>while he was out, and now you get ten days

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 4>off or whatever. And some of those rookies, you know,

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 4>Frasier and McCormick that would never admit to hitting a

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 4>rookie wall but have never played this much football or

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 4>probably very much embracing it, let alone. The old dudes

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 4>like Cam and Russ, you know, that know how to

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 4>handle it. But the bodies are older, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I do think, Matt, that there's reason for

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 2>optimism there that you know. It feels a little to me.

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>And I've used this analogy with Wolf, like you got

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of puzzle pieces and they don't quite fit.

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 2>They haven't quite fit why why the three and outs,

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 2>and certainly Philadelphia had something to do with that, but

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:22.719
<v Speaker 2>now it feels.

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 5>A lot to do with all of this stuff. I mean,

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 5>they're really good team about no question.

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, But I also think that you know, if you

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 2>have Pickens back, George Pickens that is, and you have

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Russell Wilson and you have you know, this freshness of

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 2>this sort of mini by at the end of the

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 2>year and guys feeling good that they're there, should be

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>reason for optimism. Now again, you're gonna have to carry

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 2>that into Saturday night against Cincinnati to begin there. But

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I do think that they're you know, if you're a

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Steelers player, if you're a Steelers fan, take a breath

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and think, Okay, this this can still happen.

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I really want our listeners to under stand this.

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 4>And Wolfe understand it even better than us because he's

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 4>a player. But I host a Thursday show with Mike

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 4>Persuda and Merrill Hodge and we always this Merril's with

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 4>the whole second segment and we set it up and

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 4>he exes and oes us to death and it's wonderful.

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 4>And he had mentioned over this three game stretch. And

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 4>there's other problems. But here's one example just sticks with

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 4>me is when teams would go to trips offenses against

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 4>the Steeler defense. The Steeler defense has had a lot

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 4>of communication errors, bunches and trip sets three receivers the

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 4>one side. Okay, I mean the Steelers recognize that. Every

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 4>offensive coordinator on the planet recognizes that. But when you

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 4>play three games in eleven days, you really don't even

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 4>have the practice time to fix it.

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, Like, I know that's a problem. They know

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 5>it's a problem.

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 4>They're gonna pick that scab forever, but I got no

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 4>time to heal the wound.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, that's a great point. It This is how

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 5>the world works.

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 2>It really is.

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, there's no question.

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that you see is how you

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 3>are going to operate, say with the Travis Kelcey, Yeah,

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 3>you know. I mean there's so many variations. One of

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 3>them is an island bunch, where the bunch is that,

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, three guys in a bunch is slightly removed

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 3>from the offensive tackle a little bit wider, and the

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 3>guy motions to the bunch and then they go on

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 3>crossing routes And I'm like are.

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 5>You kidding me? That looks you know, it looks it

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 5>looks like you could You couldn't.

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 3>It was like guys playing tag in Grand Central Station

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 3>at rush hour, trying to keep up with these guys

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 3>crossing and everything else. And Matt makes a great point,

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 3>how do you put that into a small time frame

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 3>and work on that.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 4>When you got one real practice to get a fit, Like, yeah,

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 4>you can sit there in the meeting rooms and no,

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 4>it's a problem. But it's hard to work those problems

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 4>out such a short amount of time.

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 3>I can only tell you when you're in a limited walkthrough,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 3>you're not getting along.

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 4>Right right right, let alone when the two time defending

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 4>champs come to town and they're the best in the

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 4>league at it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's leave off there because we want to talk

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about this defense and we want to

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>take a look ahead to the Cincinnati Bengals and maybe

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>a sneak peek ahead of the playoffs as well. You're

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0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 2>only had to say that name once. Glad there weren't

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:23.840
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<v Speaker 2>dot org. So the offense, we just talked about that

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. The defense guys, on the one hand,

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the offense has not helped the defense. And you know,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if somebody were to say, you know,

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>what's the biggest culprit offense? Defense? You don't get to

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>say turnovers. You don't get to say special teams, although

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's really been an issue. You don't

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>get to say that you have to pick offense or defense.

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure wolf which side I'd picked, because whereas

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>the offense, you know, we just outlined the paucity of points.

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 2>They've scored forty over the last three they've also given

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 2>up a bunch to three top teams. Unless we forget,

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, when we want to look at and as

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I do, and I know you do, Hey, this could

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>have turned out differently. You know, the Eagles kneeled down.

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>They knelt down at the end of the game. That

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 2>could easily if they could have gotten into the thirties

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>net game. And you give up thirty four to Baltimore,

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 2>you give up twenty nine to KC. There are some

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>things there that need to be fixed, Wolf, and maybe

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>this extra time, as we were saying at the end

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 2>of the last segment, will give you time to fix

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:38.479
<v Speaker 2>those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in my mind, Matt nailed it from the get go.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Time of possession. I am such a big believer in

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 3>time possession doesn't guarantee a win, but at the same time,

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 3>it guarantees you're in in the ball game. Okay, if

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 3>you control the ball, obviously the opposition is not scoring

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>too many points. Now, the problem is the more you

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 3>how do I put this against a good team like

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 3>the like like case, You got to control that ball

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 3>like forty minutes. It's it can't be thirty one and change.

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 3>It's you know where you're just slightly you know it.

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 3>It's about you got to dominate that time of possession

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 3>and then do something with it. And whether you're kicking

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 3>eight what how many field six, field goals like they

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 3>did in the Ravens game, you know, with with Boswell

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 3>or what you know, it's it's you got to turn

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 3>some points there. But the fact is winning possession is

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 3>nine tenths of the law, and winning is nine tenths of

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 3>the of the you know, possession. You know, I didn't

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 3>think that made sense. The point being is I think

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.959
<v Speaker 3>we got close. You understand where I'm coming from. If

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 3>you're hanging on to that ball, they ain't got it.

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 3>And you got to keep mahomes on the blanket on

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 3>the bench, keeping warm. That's the best way to do it.

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Matt. Do you have any to add to that?

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:55.479
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 5>How could you?

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 4>It was all over the place, just the league wide though.

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean there aren't steel curtains anymore. There aren't eighty

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 4>five bears, you know where you're happy to get the

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 4>ten points, you know, like there's those defenses don't exist.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the league has changed too dramatically. These offensive

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 4>players are too good, et cetera, et cetera. But what

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 4>is very true is too much defense is bad defense.

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter what defense it is.

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 5>In this league.

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 4>If they're out there thirty two plus minutes, they get

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 4>figured out, Fatigues said, you know, certainly starts, the pass

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 4>rush slows down, the pads come up. But maybe more

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 4>importantly Mahomes and Red, for example, they're the latest opponent.

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 4>But this is true for everybody, but they're the best

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 4>at it. They start to learn all your checks, you know,

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 4>like if I do this specific motion, they check the

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 4>cover too. Okay, well I'm gonna do this motion next time,

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.239
<v Speaker 4>and I'm going to run my cover two beaters. And

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 4>you can't just adjust everything on the sideline. They can't

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 4>just stop and hit pause and be like, well, let's

0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 4>change all our checks. You know, they figure you out.

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 4>And that's why teams script plays to start things. You know,

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.239
<v Speaker 4>we're just gonna put out thirteen personnel and see what

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 4>kind of defense they play against it. Wow, they're playing base. Okay,

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna throw out of thirteen going forward. I mean,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 4>that's why you do those things. So the more you're

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.959
<v Speaker 4>out there, the more you're telling the homes and read

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 4>the answers to the tests. And that's when it gets

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 4>really ugly.

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 2>You know. Whenever I think a time of possession and

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 2>an explosive team, I mean the biggest discrepancy I can

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 2>think of in Super Bowl history is that the Giants

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Bills in ninety one, you know, the wide right game.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 2>If Norwood makes the field goal, we're not even talking

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.280
<v Speaker 2>about it. But the time of possession in that game

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 2>was nineteen twenty seven for Buffalo and forty thirty three

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 2>for the Giants, and the Bill still almost won the game,

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 2>still had a forty seven yard field goal at the

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 2>buzzer to win it. The yards are almost identical, the

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>point being the Giants didn't have an explosive offense. Their

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 2>defense was good, but not the same defense that had

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 2>been five years before. They won that game because they

0:34:58.520 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 2>controlled the clock.

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 4>That you know, like Otis Anderson all day on you

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 4>right right, yeah yeah.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't even it wasn't even great running. I mean,

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the Bills ran for over six yards to carry. The

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Giants were just over four, just slugging it out. But

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the lack of negative plays, what Wolf said, the winning

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 2>on first and second down, the ability to keep drives alive.

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think the notion that once we get

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>into your territory, if it's fourth and one, we're probably

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 2>going for it. With Otis Anderson here he comes. All

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 2>those things so you're.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 4>Rise in rushing the pastor in the fourth quarter like

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 4>he is in the first quarter.

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 2>That's right, No, exactly right, yeah, yeah, all those things contribute.

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 2>And even though I think the Steelers, going back to

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what we're talking about last segment, that they

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 2>have the capacity to be more explosive, it is still

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 2>seemingly more in their dna to win games that way. Now,

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I do think if you have everybody at your disposal

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and you have to get into a shootout, you have

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 2>a greater chance to win now than any time in

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 2>many many years as the Steelers. But that's not, you know,

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>clearly not the way they want to do things. So well,

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 2>if what do they have to do? Joe Burrow has

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.959
<v Speaker 2>been phenomenal. The Bengals have won four in a row.

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 2>They're putting this game on Saturday night. I think, you know,

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 2>they're wrapping up the AFC North. You can kind of

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 2>understand probably where they're coming from. You know, if Cincinnati

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 2>were to beat Baltimore, if Cincinnati would to beat Steeers,

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore would have nothing to play for. Okay, so you

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 2>put Baltimore first. Now, the Steelers could be playing for

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>a third seed. If if Baltimore loses or a fourth

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>or fifth seed, or a fifth or sixty, you're guaranteeing

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 2>yourself a fifth seed if you win the game. So

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 2>it's still important to the Steelers. What do they need

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to do to beat a Bengals team that is starting

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 2>to resemble the Bengals team we all thought it was

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be at the beginning of the year, which is,

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, a legitimate tough contender, a difficult team to beat.

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 3>This is going to be a team that you got

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.399
<v Speaker 3>to dominate the time of possession. I mean, this is

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 3>you got to keep Joe Burrow on the bench to

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 3>the best of your abilities, and obviously Sacerman put pressure,

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 3>what have you went, He's out there. But the fact

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 3>of the matter is you need to win the time

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 3>with possession, and you need to do that by doing

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 3>a couple of things. You've got to win on first

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 3>second downs. You've got to have the ability to convert

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 3>on the possession downs. You've got to have a quarterback

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 3>get the ball out on schedule. I'm sorry, but you

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 3>cannot get in those four second ranges with the ball

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 3>on pass pro You've got a group of young offensive

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 3>linemen and when you have negative yardage through sacks on

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 3>young offensive lineman. Look, you gotta understand these fivesome, these

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 3>young guys all out there together. They play more for

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 3>each other than they do anything else. It's about being

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.720
<v Speaker 3>part of a group effort when you're an offensive lineman,

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 3>and the negativity that's associated with the sacks creates sometimes

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 3>doubt and and lack of confidence and guys start looking around.

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 3>That can be sort of problematic when you're a young

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 3>guy not having weathered storms such as some of the

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.479
<v Speaker 3>older guys have already. Well, the fact of the matter

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 3>is you got to help them out. The very first

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 3>play that of last week against the Chiefs was a

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 3>nice little eight year eight yard out to Pat Fryarmouth

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 3>that took two seconds, maybe a one point nine to

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 3>nine or something like that, And I thought that was

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 3>a terrific tone setter. Now continue, you know, stay in

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 3>that vein, in that sort of thing. I think the

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 3>world to Russ. I think he is a great quarterback.

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 3>I think he's capable of producing big things. But what

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 3>he's got to be careful of is not trying not

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 3>to take over the offense to such a degree that

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 3>you start to put the passing schedule at risk, you know,

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 3>with sacks. Negative plays like that just create a lot

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 3>of problems.

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 4>So from what I remember, that's great because from what

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 4>I remember in the Bengals game, this is just off

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 4>the top of my head, I think was Russ's shortest

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 4>time to throw in like ten years, not let alone

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 4>in a Steeler uniform. I mean, and he's a higher

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 4>one to begin with. I mean, he's a good athlete,

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:57.720
<v Speaker 4>he moves around right at this stage of his career.

0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a bit of a negative that he

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 4>needs to s I mean, I always say, I've said

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 4>this forever that sacks are as much a quarterback stats

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 4>an O line stat.

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 5>And I'm sure you O lineman agree. There's some guys

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 5>that just take sacks that there's some that don't.

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:15.320
<v Speaker 4>And I think this the pressure against the Chiefs in particular,

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 4>was probably more on the quarterback than the blocking. You know,

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 4>you don't have to take sacks if you don't necessarily,

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 4>you can throw the ball away, you can, you can

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 4>dirt it whatever. And I think he needs to evaluate

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 4>that part of it as well, because this offense can't

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 4>afford those negative plays.

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 2>So how about defensively and trying to slow down. It's

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna be and it's very difficult to slow down.

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 3>They got so many weapons. I mean, you think about

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 3>number one, Chase Brown, I mean Chase Brown, I mean

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 3>he though, yeah.

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 5>Fine, but look pretty bad at the end of the right.

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 3>So then you've got also you got the wide receivers

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.720
<v Speaker 3>that can create you know, a lot of downfield yardage

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 3>with t Higgins and whoever, you know, whoever they put

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:59.240
<v Speaker 3>out there. The fact of the matter is Joe Burrow

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 3>is on a tear. He is just on a tear.

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Back in the day, Mike Webster used to say, it'd

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 3>be like the mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom. You know,

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 3>Jim had the dart gun that would would make the

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 3>wild beasts go to sleep, you know, you know, and

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Webby said, we need one of those guys out there

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 3>had that, and so you can dart one of those

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks that are getting out of control. The fact of

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 3>the matter is it's very hard to do the things

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 3>that you want to do against it, you know, somebody

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 3>like Joe Burrow, other than keep them on the bench

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 3>and pressure them, you know, And that's that that by

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 3>and large is going to be about those guys up front.

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, how important is it to play a good game

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 2>for the Steelers for their psyche and and to you know,

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably at this stage of the game,

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 2>it's psyche as much as anything else, isn't it. I'm

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>just you know, you've beaten good teams. You beat Cincinnati

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore earlier this year, this year, you beat Denver earlier

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 2>this year, You've beaten quality teams. But it just feels

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 2>like after these last three games, maybe for your psyche,

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 2>it's important to play a strong game one way or

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 2>the other to give you, you know, a little bit

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 2>of headway heading into the playoffs.

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Unquestionably, so, I mean, you want to write the ship

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 3>and get to have a good feel about you as

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 3>you enter into the playoffs, and certainly going out and

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 3>mastering a second win over the Bengals is going to

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 3>be important. And I can't think of anything other than say, yeah,

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.399
<v Speaker 3>you need to win and win, you know, in a good,

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 3>good way, not you know, doing the things that they

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 3>got you here. You know, the same guys that got

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 3>to ten and three also are here at ten and six.

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 3>And the fact of the matter is you can right

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 3>this ship with the next snap of a game, you know,

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 3>get in there and get do the things that you

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 3>did to get to ten and three, and that's really

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 3>where they've got to right the ship.

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Matt.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I also think there's something to kick the Bengals

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 4>when they're down. You know, the Bengals are on a

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 4>winning streak, They're they're riding high, they're pulling things out

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 4>left and right, and Burrows on top of the world

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 4>and playing great. But if you can end their season

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 4>and keep a fabulous quarterback out of the playoffs and

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 4>then all of a sudden they're back to the drawing

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 4>board too, there's a double whammie there. I definitely think

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 4>along with Wolf was saying, you do not want to

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 4>limp into the playoffs on a four game losing streak.

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Can go on a road game, I mean, I think

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.439
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot to be had in this upcoming game.

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the Bengals offseason would be considerably better even

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>if they don't get into playoffs. Hey, look what we

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 2>did at the end of the season. Who we are.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a complete reversal for them. Any thoughts

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 2>on whether how important it is to maybe get that

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 2>five seed and be taking on Houston. Houston hasn't looked

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 2>that good. Matt and the Ravens have looked really good.

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think the Ravens are playing at a extremely

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:47.479
<v Speaker 4>high level. Now, the last game didn't go this way,

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 4>but we also still know that Ravens Steeler history implies

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 4>tight physical games. I mean, I don't think that all

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden that that's out the window. But Houston's

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 4>got a lot of issues. I mean, I would much

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 4>rather go to Houston than go to home.

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's just play a good game first time. Wolf.

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, go get it.

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't mean, I'm not trying to be dismissive.

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, no, that's the first order of business.

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Just go play a good football game.

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly the first order of business, you know. I mean,

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 3>and that you can't overlook it. You've got to focus

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 3>on it. That's all that matters right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, gear up with the latest game day necessities the

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