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Speaker 2: We have an idea this thing could be competitive and

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Speaker 2: and you know, how do we think this game is

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Speaker 2: And I did get laughed at by multiple people on

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Speaker 2: I saw what they did to that team. I know

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Speaker 2: the offense, and they got some other veterans in places

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Speaker 2: a big benefit for Alabama. First three weeks of the season.

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Speaker 2: What offenses did they face? Josh Heipel's air raid. You

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Speaker 2: usould be at North Carolina and Old Miss. That's kind

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Speaker 2: you got Helton's offense at Western Kentucky. They had not

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Speaker 2: so not a lot. I think a lot of it,

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Speaker 2: were they going to be able to play? How quickly

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Speaker 2: we thought there were some things that could make it interesting,

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Speaker 2: you say it, that game was not given. That was

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Speaker 2: not a gift, that was not a fluke, that was

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Speaker 2: not one that we're gonna look back and say, Boy,

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Speaker 2: if they'd have just taken those three things away, it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that brings me to my next point, Colin,

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Speaker 1: I've listened to people outright question the culture of Alabama

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641
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Speaker 1: gets hired, and the last thing I heard was well,

642
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys are about to hit the portal. Ooh,

643
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: this guy's never recruited the South. Bam, that's it. You

644
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: don't get to experience anything else until now. And you

645
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: pop me out of that cryo chamber. And they're a

646
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: one loss team and they've gone to Wisconsin and did

647
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: what they did. They recruitings on fire. They then beat

648
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: Georgia and then they had this thing just happened to Vandy.

649
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm probably looking at it in the moment and I'm saying, ooh,

650
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: they lost to Vandy. Oh, they beat Georgia though, that's

651
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: a really good win at Wisconsin and recruitings, what Wow,

652
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: things seem to be going pretty well. You care what

653
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: he's wearing. Well, that sounds crazy. I'm gonna mute you.

654
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: You're not a serious person. But I would listen to

655
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: the rest of the stuff, and I would say, yeah,

656
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: I get people who are upset about the Vandy loss,

657
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: but dude, like, it's not the craziest thing in the

658
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: world to think about that defensive transition and think about

659
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: how young they are and maybe how they lack some

660
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: top end competitive depth on that side of the ball,

661
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: and think, yeah, someone could get them, someone else may

662
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: get them. I would look in general, and I would say,

663
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: are we crashing culture here?

664
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: Though?

665
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: Part B? Do we have the slide this idea of

666
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: what we're even saying when we're questioning the culture there?

667
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: So you can go whichevere whichever direction you want to.

668
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: And I know you already have this week, but I

669
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: think a lot of it.

670
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought this up and not the laughable stuff,

671
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: because you brought up a word in today's college football

672
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: that I think is very intriguing, and that is culture.

673
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: I asked Mackerel the other day, I would ask you

674
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: the same question I thought he would know. He didn't

675
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: throw out the name that I thought he would, but like,

676
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: who is the culture king for? Like who is the

677
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: coach that says that word every time you talk to him?

678
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Like it's hey, we got to get our culture right,

679
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: We got to do this for our culture in the

680
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: Southeastern Conference. Who's who would you throw out as as

681
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: to being that guy? I mean, it says culture.

682
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: Elko says it a lot, Hypel says it a lot,

683
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: Kirby says it a lot. Who going, Uh, Well, it's Sark,

684
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: It's Sark. That's who it is.

685
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: Stark likes this culture, but no, that's that's not it

686
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 2: for me. Billy Napier is the guy that says culture

687
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 2: like every other word. And I covered him at Louisiana

688
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: a couple of times too, so maybe that was it.

689
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: How's that going for him? And nothing against Billy because

690
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 2: I do think culture is a big reason that they

691
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: won in Lafayette and they had some better players, but

692
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: now playing field neutral, I is just a little more

693
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: from a talent perspective. This is why that's cool is

694
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: Clark Lee was very upfront and very honest with us

695
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: when he met with us on Friday, and I had

696
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: a couple of ideas of how they had managed some

697
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: things in the offseason, but didn't have a lot of

698
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: clarity to it. So I asked him, I said, what

699
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: was your biggest change in approach this offseason? And he

700
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: kind of started to give us a little bit of

701
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: coach speak. And if you haven't been around Clark, you

702
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 2: need to understand how philosophical he is and how thoughtful

703
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: he is. But he's someone that you would sit down

704
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: with and he would give you paragraphs of phrases of

705
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: what he wanted guys to remember and how they were

706
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: building humans, and how they were trying to build better people,

707
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: and better people helped you become better players, and all

708
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I mean, quotes from this and

709
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: this tribe and this leader and this president in this general.

710
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: Just as long as you could sit there and listen

711
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: to him, he would do it. And he finally just

712
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 2: stopped and he said, I'm gonna be honest with you, guys.

713
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: I sat in my office one day and December and

714
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: I said, fit, I want to win, and he said,

715
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: so I had to back off, and I had to

716
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 2: sort of pull the rems on myself a little bit

717
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: and realize that maybe some of the things that I

718
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: was doing weren't necessarily the best things to help us win.

719
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: And he changed all that. He hit the reset button

720
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: on his personal approach to his team. It's not that

721
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: some of those things aren't still there and they don't

722
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: utilize some of those things, but a lot of what

723
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 2: he took away, Josh, were culture pieces of that. Because

724
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: let's be real, what's the biggest probably culture booster winning, right,

725
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: If you win, your culture gonna be prettydamn good no

726
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: matter what. But to hear one of the most thoughtful

727
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 2: coaches that I'm around on an annual basis, basically say

728
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: I had to take some of that stuff and just

729
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: throw it out. He said. They used to meet every morning,

730
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: and he said, kids don't want to do that, so

731
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: we don't do that anymore. He said, Are there some

732
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: guys that act like a jerk every now and then,

733
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: but they're still gonna play on Saturday? Yeah, And it

734
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: might not used to go that way, he said, Now

735
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: they're not legally in trouble, or they're not fighting kids

736
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: in class or whatever. But I just had to change

737
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: my approach. So just that word in general right now

738
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: is so different at so many places. I don't even

739
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: know how we judge, Like you said, how do we

740
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: judge a culture of a program right now? Is it

741
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: guys going to class? Half the guys don't even go

742
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: to class anymore. It's all online. So what are you

743
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: even saying when you say that that they're really good

744
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: in their living room in front of a laptop. I

745
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: don't know if was it showing up to work out.

746
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: Is it making sure other guys don't get in trouble?

747
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: Holding guys accountable? I guess what I'm saying is to

748
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: question someone's culture, you have to know what it is. Yeah,

749
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: And I don't even know if we know what that

750
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: is across the board in college football right now.

751
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want you to get specific. We

752
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: can keep this very generic. But you know, just like

753
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: I do, because we both sat down with them, we

754
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: both walked through the hallways. You got some places out

755
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: there where there are some like grade A turds in

756
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: the building that are starting on Saturday and they're winning games.

757
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: And you'll listen to callers on radio, you'll read the

758
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: message boards and you'll hear folks talk about how rock

759
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: solid the culture is there, and it becomes pretty apparent

760
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: folks don't have the slightest clue what culture is. Culture

761
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: is code for winning, and no one praises the culture

762
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: of a losing program, and everyone questions the culture or

763
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: praises the culture of a winning program, and they never

764
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: open the hood on either in fairness cause they don't

765
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: have the ability to do it. And I think the

766
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: one thing, though, I'll get your take on this and

767
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: then we'll move on the one thing that I was

768
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: pretty taken aback by was the Malachi More stuff, which

769
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: was crazy, cause like a lot of the country doesn't

770
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: know Malachai more. They know he started for a long

771
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: time at Bama, and then they see him kick the football,

772
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: they see him throw the mouthpiece, they see him refuse

773
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: to come off the field, all of which is pretty pathetic.

774
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: But then if you know that dude, you know him,

775
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: I know him, you know that there's probably not a

776
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: kid that staff would rather trot out to rect present

777
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: their program than Malachi Moore. So you look at it

778
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: and like, you saw a guy in his absolute worst

779
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: moment act ridiculously And you can look at that and

780
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: say that's a culture problem. I can look at it

781
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: and say, I think it looks bad, really bad. I

782
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: don't think that's what it is. And if I see

783
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: fifteen more examples of it, I'll change my attitude towards it.

784
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: But I haven't I've seen one of them. So, like,

785
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: how did you interpret that?

786
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: You're talking about a young man who has his handprints

787
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: right outside Denny Chimes, he's been the two time captain,

788
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: somebody who uses his nil money to pay for his

789
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: brother to go to college, who's a walk on on

790
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: the football team. So does that mean that I'm going

791
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: to completely excuse the petulance that he showed on the field.

792
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. But I would also remind myself that in

793
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: my forties, I have had moments of petulance, like the

794
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: camera that I'm doing this interview on right now, the

795
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: fact that it took me months to get it hooked

796
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: up in the different cords that I tried to get

797
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: it hooked up to. I had one night where I

798
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: melted down and my wife literally asked me to leave

799
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: the house. You have to go away because what the

800
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: way you're acting right now is not normal and I

801
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: don't need you here waking our children up because you're

802
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: losing your mind. If this thing's not working, Bam. We're

803
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: all gonna have moments. We're all gonna have moments that

804
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: we fall off track like that. That's gonna that's gonna happen.

805
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Like you said, when I see it ten to twelvey

806
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: more times, then we can look at it as a

807
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: bit of a problem. I would be much more concerned

808
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: about guys who had opportunities to physically play a more

809
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: physical brand of football and chose not to specifically on

810
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 2: that side of the ball in that game. I don't

811
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: care if a guy gets beat on an out route.

812
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: If a guy gets picked, okay, don't do it twice.

813
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: You don't learn from your mistakes. But when somebody is

814
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: dragging being drug, a defender's hanging on to a tight

815
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 2: end who needs three more yards for a first down,

816
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: and two other defenders come up and don't take that

817
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: shot on him and decide to just kind of coast

818
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: up and look and see what happens, and he's able

819
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: to drag them an extra few yards for a first down.

820
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Those are the things I'd be more concerned about. Then

821
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: a guy got mad and a guy through his mouthpiece. Now,

822
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: the walking up there and kicking the football is beyond

823
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: anything I could even imagine. I'm not sure what we're

824
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: trying to accomplish there, but that's in the past. You

825
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: let him move forward, You try to help me learn

826
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: from his mistakes. I would be more concerned about some

827
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: effort pieces that I saw than I would about how

828
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: guys lost their temper or acted like a child.

829
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, one more thing for you here, and

830
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: then we got to run. You know Texas A and

831
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: M pretty well. You know Mike Elko, you know Texas

832
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: A and M. I was out there last week and

833
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: we were there for the Missouri game obviously, so I

834
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: saw them at their very best so far under Mike Elko.

835
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: But we were there Friday, and it's just so wild

836
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: to get explained to you how much had to be

837
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: undone there, not talking about roster. They didn't have to

838
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: go overhaul it like Dion did it Colorado, not like that.

839
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: But just when you have a guy who's been pretty

840
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: tenured at a place like Jimbo was, you don't have

841
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: to throw him under the bus or anything, but to

842
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: explain how you transition from one guy to the other guy,

843
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: especially when the previous guy wasn't cutting it. You talk

844
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: about this web and it's like you have to undo

845
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: it or rubber band ball, and you have to undo

846
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: it one rubber band at a time, and some of

847
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: it's personnel, some of its staff, some of its culture,

848
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: some of its politics, and it can almost make you

849
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: hesitant to take the job. Of course, it's A and

850
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: M because you take the job. So things started the

851
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: way they did there. Now you got Wigman back and

852
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: they have by far their most dominant performance of the year,

853
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: of course irresponsibly. Then that means a lot of folks

854
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: start asking, could we be a one lost team when

855
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: we play Texas, like not learning from all the chaos

856
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: around you. But that's okay, it's your constitutional right to

857
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: look ahead. Teams don't need to, fans can. But in

858
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, right now, I don't think

859
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: the sky is the limit for that team. I still

860
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: think that there is an imposed ceiling roster wise, but

861
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: it's a lot higher than number fifteen in the country

862
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: or whatever they are right now. So I think that

863
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: team could find itself in the top ten. I think

864
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: that team could do some special things this year. Long term,

865
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: I just more and more by the day, continue to

866
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: be convince, Wow, they got the right guy, and wow,

867
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: he's not going to be a superstar for quite a while,

868
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: Like he's not a sexy hire, but probably the right

869
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: higher And then it just gets reinforced the more you're

870
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: around it. So give me your fifty thousand and then

871
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: zoom in a little bit view on Texas A and

872
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: m all.

873
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: Right, so let's take some of these things that go

874
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: along with what we just discussed. Culture and then other

875
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: phrases are words that we hear that we don't never

876
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: really know if that means anything. And I'll tell you

877
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: when it actually does mean something. So culture, buy in, attitude,

878
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: fit all those things right. We never like there was

879
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: no better fit for Lsu to be the head coach

880
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: than Ed Orgeron. I mean the guy literally had to

881
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: beg his father for money to get tickets and they

882
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: couldn't afford him to go to games when he was

883
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: a kid there at Tiger Stadium, So that didn't work out.

884
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: Here's when it does work out. Buy in and fit

885
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: workout when you can get your guys to do things

886
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: full speed and they understand what they're doing. This is

887
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 2: a little bit of what the issue was with Alabama.

888
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: We can point to all the stuff around scheme, but

889
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: when you're not playing fast and the effort cannot be

890
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: what it needs to be to play at a high level,

891
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: that's a problem with either the culture, the buy in,

892
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: or the fit or maybe all of those. What coach

893
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: Elko has done is found guys that can be a

894
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: good fit for what he wants to do, but not

895
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: what he has to do. So he's going to do

896
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: things that are a good fit for his players first.

897
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: Then he's going to make sure they understand why they're

898
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: doing it. Okay, so there comes the buy in portion.

899
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: Of that, when you guys know where to go, what

900
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: to do, how to do it, how to get lined up.

901
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: They're not looking left and right when they're trying to

902
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: find out what the check was, or when the tight

903
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: end moves, what's the personnel grouping. It's just boom, boom boom.

904
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: You get lined up and then you go and you

905
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: play full speed. That's what buy in is to me.

906
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: And then culture on top of that. I look at

907
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: that as more the icing. So that's when guys come

908
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: in and watch extra film on their own. That's when

909
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: guys hold their teammates accountable. That's when you've watched so

910
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: much or talked about so much that you understand it

911
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: before your coaches even get to it. That's what I

912
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: see a lot with with Texas A and M right now.

913
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: And to go a little bit of a step further,

914
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: being very specific in your game plans, I thought the

915
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: coolest part about Saturday when you looked at those three upsets, well,

916
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: An A and M was favored, but let's just say

917
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: it was an upset happening that way. None of us

918
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: really saw that coming. So for that one to go

919
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: that way, for Arkansas to beat Tennessee and Vanderbet to

920
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: beat Alabama. None of those super fluky, by the way,

921
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: the reasons that they happened were the plans that were

922
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: put in place. The stretch play was shut down on

923
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: the second or third play of the game when Nick

924
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: s Gordon destroyed a tackle about four yards deep into

925
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: the backfield, and all of a sudden, you aren't going

926
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: to have the play that you need to build your

927
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: offense around for the rest of the day. And then

928
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: the amount of free runners that came on pressures was

929
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: almost uncountable because it kept happening over and over and

930
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: over again. Now, is Connor Wigman going to be that

931
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: accurate every day? I don't know. Is Travis Williams going

932
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: to run a three two six defense every week? No

933
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: he's not. But they put it in that week and

934
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: that specific plan worked. Same thing with Vanderbilt knowing they

935
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: needed to own time of possession and keep the best

936
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: players that were involved in that game on the sideline,

937
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: Jaylen Milroe, Ryan Williams, Tyler Booker, amongst others. So when

938
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: you have buy in along with your culture and you

939
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: can get your guys to go a little bit further

940
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 2: with the understanding of how they're doing it and why

941
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: they're doing it, which is the most important part. Then

942
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: you play full speed and you use all that athletic

943
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: ability that you have to be able to go out

944
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: there and dominate. And that's what I saw from those teams,

945
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: and it's what I'm seeing early on from Texas A

946
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: and M.

947
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: A couple of other things I think are crazy. Here

948
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: I was in their weight room talking to Tommy Moffatt, who,

949
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, is at Texas

950
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: A and M. Now guy says, this is actually the

951
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: most fun I've ever had doing this. And it's the

952
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: most fun because we got a guy and Mike Elko

953
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: that has one hundred percent win in our sales to

954
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: run a strength and conditioning program the way it's supposed

955
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: to be run. And if you know anything about A

956
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: and M in the latter stages of the Jimbo era,

957
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: you know that maybe the previous S and C staff

958
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: wasn't really free to feel like they could do that,

959
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: because anything that you ran up the ladder really wasn't

960
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: going to get the full stamp of approval for the

961
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: head man. And as a result, something that exists at

962
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: the lower high school level kind of started to exist

963
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: at the high level college level, and that is straight.

964
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: The conditioning just kind of voluntary, like, yeah, everybody goes,

965
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: but some of them are checked out after thirty minutes

966
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: and it's not really mandatory. That's not the case there anymore.

967
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: And the other thing, and we got to go in

968
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: a second. But the other thing. You have fun with

969
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: this if you will, and I'll talk to you about

970
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: this when I get back from Oregon. I think the

971
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: the misconception perhaps is that Jimbo and A and M

972
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: recruited at an extremely high level. I think numbers wise

973
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: and rankings wise, that may be true. But if you

974
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: go look at the NFL Draft and you go look

975
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: at how poor they've performed there, even relative to the

976
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: middle of the pack in the SEC, you start to

977
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: learn a little something. The more you talk to scouting

978
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: types and the more you talk to folks who know

979
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: that program, the more you realize the misconception was they

980
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: recruited a whole lot of high level guys and then

981
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: Jimbo didn't coach them up. Coaches will tell you Jimbo's

982
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: actually a really, really good coach. It's that the guys

983
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: they went and got in many cases, they weren't beaten

984
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Georgia for they weren't beaten Alabama for So if you're

985
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: landing four and five star guys but you're not fighting

986
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: the top schools for him, it may tell you a

987
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: little something about those four and five star guys. That

988
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two class, which was the highest rated of

989
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: all time, it is totally disintegrated, and a lot of

990
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: more character pieces and a lot of mom were just

991
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: miss evals, and not just on their end, but maybe

992
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: on the recruiting industries end. In some cases and in

993
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: some cases in the recruiting industry, there are things about

994
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: a guy from the neck up that you couldn't possibly

995
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: know that makes your evowl incomplete. And so now not

996
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: only is the evaluation piece and the developmental piece elite

997
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: because they did it at Duke, they did it before

998
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: he got there. So he brings those pieces and those

999
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: aspects with him. But I also think they understand there's

1000
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: a little different way that you recruit A and M.

1001
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: I would almost say that is as much like an

1002
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State as it is an LSU or an Ole

1003
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: miss or in Alabama in the way they attract kids

1004
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: to campus and how they sell A and M. And

1005
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: you've got a guy who understands it. So I know

1006
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: that it was nice to beat Missouri. But even if

1007
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: they had lost a dogfight to Missouri, there are so

1008
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: many green arrows that you get when you like start

1009
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: to raise the hood on Texas A and M that

1010
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: I'm buying stock in them. If anyone wants to sell

1011
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: stock your last words, sir, before we're out of here.

1012
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: I would just tell all the things that you said

1013
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 2: with recruiting, and then once you get talent in place.

1014
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a word, but believability

1015
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: is what comes to my mind, and that is that

1016
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: goes back to putting guys on the field. Can you

1017
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: allow them to believe that what they're doing is going

1018
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: to work? Because I can promise you there are a

1019
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: lot of college football players out there, Josh, that are

1020
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: just running plays and they just think it should work

1021
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: because the coach told thement should work and practice one

1022
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: time against the scout team. But do you believe conceptually

1023
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: why that's going to work. A good example is where

1024
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: you're going this weekend. When you watch Oregon's defense, A

1025
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: lot of what they do is created. It's not just

1026
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 2: five stars everywhere. They have some good players, there's no doubt,

1027
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: but the precision in which they run, their pressures and

1028
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 2: their movement and the understanding of we're not just running

1029
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: this twist. So hopefully one guy gets to make a

1030
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: play and there's no one on him. You have to

1031
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: pick it a certain way, you have to hug the

1032
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: other guy coming backside again just a certain way. And

1033
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: then when you do that, if a play is run correctly,

1034
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: even by the offense, we should still win because you

1035
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: believe that your effort and your technique will go work.

1036
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: I think some guys in recruiting come in and they

1037
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: just believe they're already that guy. That's one thing that's

1038
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: brilliant about Kirby Smart is he's been able to get

1039
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: the guys that coming out of high school, where those

1040
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: guys to believe they're not the guys and they got

1041
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: to go earn it and they got to go prove

1042
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: it because he's had a look at the draft picks

1043
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: he's had and they're still playing in bowl games and

1044
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: they're still going out there and playing a different level

1045
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: of intense football because he forces them to believe that

1046
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: whatever they've already done is not enough. And whatever they've

1047
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: been told is not enough and they better go prove

1048
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: it on the field or they're not going to get

1049
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: to where they want to go.

1050
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: Good stuff. All right, I'm putting a link in the

1051
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: live chat people Cube show. You need to go subscribe.

1052
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: It's not just that guy the YouTube channel. It has

1053
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: a name, He has a name, he has a heart.

1054
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: Some say he has a soul, and he is. He

1055
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: is really, really, really a menace and a live chat

1056
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: when you're trying to do a Friday night line segment,

1057
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: but otherwise a wonderful person. Sir, have fun in Lexington

1058
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: this week.

1059
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: Colorado School minds, I want, I want Colorado School.

1060
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: And cut him off, Colins, just cut him off. Please

1061
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: just do away with him. Be gone. Thank you? All right.

1062
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: We got ahead of the airport. We're headed up to

1063
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: Portland and then Eugene eventually tonight at some time. So

1064
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: I will be on campus at the University of Oregon

1065
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow and I will do Friday Night Lines from orgon

1066
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night. Make sure you're following the instagram the channel

1067
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,040
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