1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Smell us Now, lady, Welcome to meat Eater Trivia mea podcast. 2 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to meat Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain 3 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: Time on August twenty ninth and word live from Meat 4 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Eater HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer Newhart, 5 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: joined by Giannis Putellis and Randa Williams. On today's show, 6 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: we're talking to doctor Seth walk about using donkeys for 7 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: backcountry hunting. Then we'll discuss Liam Neeson's twenty eleven thriller 8 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: The Gray for Meat Eater's movie Club. After that, we'll 9 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: give Seth Morris one minute to catch a fish from 10 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: the meat Eater pond, followed by a chettiquette about having 11 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: babies and killing elk. Then we'll call Tyler Johnson, the 12 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: man who accidentally shot himself during a grizzly attack. And 13 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: finally we'll discuss the top three states we'd like to 14 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: own a hunting property in. Yanni Randall, Welcome boys. It 15 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: felt like fall was in the air this morning. 16 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: Feels good. Snow on the mountains yesterday. 17 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: Oh, is it the first time this year? 18 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? First time since probably May? 19 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: First time? 20 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: Okay you saw snow? 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 4: Yeah? 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: Crazy. 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Oh that's good to hear. 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 5: It melt it off by the afternoon, but boy, it 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 5: was an encouraging sign. 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: It was chilly enough that when I was getting my 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: morning arrows in, I had to put on a hoodie. 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: Oh oh well, black hoodie Yanni, which I'm told is 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: available in the First Light store next week. I feel 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: like we've been begging First Light to make black stuff 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: for years and they're doing it next week, and egg 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: on our face. All three of us wore the black 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 2: First Light thing today. 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's because there was an email that said, please 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: please tease the black and this is what we're doing, 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: like to wear black. 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm Lawrence Fishburn and the Matrix. 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, when all three of you are wearing it, 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 6: it's not so much to tease. It's like kind of 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 6: a slap in the face. 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 7: Yea. 42 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: Now, in just a minute, we're gonna be going to 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: doctor Walk. But Johannis tell us what we should know 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: about doctor Seth Walk before we get him on the phone. 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: Sure, Seth and I actually met in a suburban driving 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: up to the start of the bridger Ridge Run three 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: years ago, when Maggie drove us up there to the start, 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: it's a long drive all the way up to Fairy 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Lake there and uh so we start being the suburban, 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: there's like eight people crammed in there chit chat, and 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: some dude in the back He's like, yeah, man, I 52 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: hunt the backcountry with donkeys and those things are badass 53 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: and I'll put them up against anyone stock you know. 54 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 55 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: I was like, what now? And so anyways, we've become 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: friends in the past three years, and uh I sort 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: of invited myself on a backcountry elk hunt where we 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: could uh sort of film and uh see it what's 59 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: all about hunting with donkeys? And uh I Also one 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: more thing I'm gonna tell you about Seth because he's 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: too humble to tell you about this. He's had a 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: program deal with himself. He wanted to kill an elk 63 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: ten years in a row, all on public land in 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: Montana with his bow and never hunt the same spot 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: more than three times in a row. Wow, and doing 66 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: it on hard mode. He's he's done it now eleven 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: years in a row. 68 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 6: Dang. 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, So, like I said, I'm like, that's probably 70 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: a good guy to know. So anyways, let's talk. Let's 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: let's talk to Seth and is. 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you go from there? After eleven years 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: in a row? Now, doctor Seth, welcome to the show. 74 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: Tell us where you're standing today. 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: I guys, thanks for having me. Yeah, I'm outside of 76 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: outside of. 77 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 8: Bozeman at my friends Frank and Aaron's ranch and they're 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 8: they pasture my my donkeys for me in the summer. 79 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: Now the donkeys thing, tell me, like why donkeys over 80 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: mules or horses or lamas. 81 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 8: Uh yeah, that's a great question. I think the first 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 8: thing was I got a pretty sweet deal in the 83 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 8: first two that I got. They're pretty cool compared to horses, 84 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 8: so uh yeah, we were doing things on a shoe 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 8: string budget and anyway, I ended up with four donkeys 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 8: for like two hundred bucks. So you can't be those 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 8: but looking at us, think like how they perform? Man, 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 8: they are just they are hearty animals. They can eat 89 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 8: almost anything and survive. They're real resistant to diseases that 90 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 8: horses get. And uh yeah, they can carry up to 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 8: twenty five percent of their body weight, where horses are 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 8: kind of in the teens sound pounds. 93 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: Twenty means what for these donkeys that you have? 94 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 8: So like a five hundred pound donkey. That's one hundred 95 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 8: pounds on your back, and that's that's. 96 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: A safe Carrie. 97 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 8: There was a study out in a journal that I 98 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 8: read when they looked at donkeys over in country where 99 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 8: donkeys are used traditionally, like Pakistan, and almost ninety percent 100 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 8: of those donkeys were packing like fifty percent. 101 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: Of their body weight. 102 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 8: So once these animals get conditioned and they're used to 103 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 8: the country, well, they can carry a house. 104 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: And you're prepping these donkeys today for the upcoming haunt 105 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: with Giannis. What does that mean though? What is prepping 106 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: a donkey weeks in advance even look like? 107 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean their training really starts early, you know, 108 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 8: whenever the weather breaks. And we've been going on walks 109 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 8: just around the pasture, making sure everybody knows each other. 110 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 4: We just picked up our fourth in. 111 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 8: May, so I was really concerned about how she was 112 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 8: going to walk, where in the pack string she was 113 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 8: going to feel comfortable. We have a young one, she's 114 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 8: only two years old and she's just a donkey in training, 115 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 8: So just figuring it all out so that happens, you know, 116 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 8: for weeks, but today, you know, I'm just gonna go 117 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 8: back over their hooves. Make sure that their hooves are 118 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 8: nice and trim, there's no cracks, and then do a 119 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 8: little saddle work. Make sure the leather's good. We did 120 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 8: lose a one of our straps on the saddle. I'll 121 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 8: show you guys here in a minute on our trip, 122 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 8: so I'm going. 123 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: To replace that. 124 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, put a little more cushion on the paths where 125 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 8: they need. Just make sure they're comfortable. If they're comfortable, man, 126 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 8: they'll work all day for you. 127 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: All right. Introduce us to the to the girls, and 128 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: then show us show us what you're doing with the 129 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: uh with the saddle. 130 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: All right, let me change this around. Can y'all see that? 131 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: Yep? 132 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: All right? 133 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 8: So yeah, these are the girls. They they usually pasture 134 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 8: down down yonder over there, and when I come in 135 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 8: with some treats, they come running up here and I 136 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 8: get them haldered up. 137 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: And put them on the fence here. 138 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 8: This galo is our first she's her name's Dottie, and 139 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 8: she's just a lover. 140 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: She's about fifteen. 141 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 8: Years old, and yeah, she's a gentle giant. This is 142 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 8: her daughter, just born two years two years ago in August. 143 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: Her name's Delta Donn. After the Tanna Tucker song. 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 8: She came from, like I said, Dottie is her mom, 145 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 8: and she came from a pretty big jack. So we 146 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 8: were hoping to get a little bit more size. But 147 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 8: she's gonna end up looking like just like her mom, 148 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 8: which is fine. 149 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: On the next On the next one, Seth, get us 150 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: a close up of Denver's face and the ears. Yeah, 151 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: is that really? 152 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 9: That? 153 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: Really? That really makes a donkey? 154 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 4: You can't beat easy. 155 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 8: Her mug is just so cute, very cute. 156 00:07:59,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: Indeed. 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, how long is a donkey's ear? I mean those 158 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: things have got to be ten inches, not quite a 159 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: foot right, Yeah. 160 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 6: Have some technical difficulties on cell phone signals. 161 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: I think we are losing, doctor Seth, but I feel satisfied. 162 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: I learned a lot about donkeys there. I was gonna 163 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: hit him with some trivia before we went. I was 164 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: going to ask him what a group of donkeys is called? 165 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: So I'll ask you two instead. Do you know what 166 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: a group of donkeys is called? No, there are four 167 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: acceptable terms. You gotta guess a group of donkeys group 168 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: of donkeys. We were looking at a whole collection of 169 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: donkeys there, and I was wondering what that was calling so. 170 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: I googled my guest will be heard heard is one 171 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: of the four. 172 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 6: This looks like sets the back has got a stronger signal. 173 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 6: We can try to bring it back in for a 174 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 6: little bit longer. 175 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: Sor right, let's let I want to see what he's 176 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: doing with those saddles. All right, seth, we got you again? 177 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: Oh sorry about that? 178 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, which guys said, do you want to hear some 179 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 8: about the saddles? 180 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well just show us what's going. Yeah, are you 181 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: just making adjustments? Yeah? 182 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 8: So one thing that I look for, say, with this 183 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 8: britch and in the back here is how it's riding 184 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 8: on the animal. 185 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: And hopefully you can see. 186 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 8: Here that her her hair's getting a little rubbed off here. 187 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 8: It's not breaking the skin or anything, but you can 188 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 8: imagine that going downhill, this is really putting pressure on 189 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 8: her leg. And so what I'm gonna do is try 190 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 8: to make that a little more comfortable. I have this 191 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 8: nice I'm going to cut some strips on that just 192 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 8: glued on that strap, and see if I can't make 193 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 8: that a little more comfortable. 194 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: For we lost a lot ago for two reasons. 195 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 8: Number one, as you can tell here, they really enjoy 196 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 8: chewing on leather, so if you're not careful, they'll just 197 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 8: chew it off. 198 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: And for those of you that don't know, is the 199 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: one that goes under their belly, right. 200 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 8: Yep, yeah, that's right. But the other reason why this 201 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 8: one isn't long enough anymore? 202 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if you can see this right here? 203 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: This is pudge. That's donkey page. 204 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 8: She was just eating a lot of hay this year, 205 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 8: so she grew a little bit in the belly. So 206 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 8: we'll fix that up. I have another ladder go here 207 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 8: on the fence. I can just use that to replace it, 208 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 8: and then. 209 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 2: We're gonna get you out of here in just a second. 210 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: We got one last question though, before you go. Do 211 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: you know what a group of donkeys is called? You 212 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: got a whole fleet of them there. They're not called 213 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: a fleet. But do you know what a group of 214 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: donkeys is called? 215 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: Oh? Boy, I call him a herd, but I don't know. 216 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, herd is one of the four acceptable terms. 217 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: The other are cowfel pace, and drove, So that one's 218 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: for free. Set you go ahead and use that. You'll 219 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: sound like a professional donkey man when you call them 220 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: a drove or a car. Awful of donkeys, Doctor Walk, 221 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. Keep Youannie safe in the back country, 222 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: and good luck on that out well. 223 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll be putting some elk meat on their backs 224 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: here in about nine days. 225 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I look forward to it, all right. 226 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: Thanks sat Thank. 227 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: You, Joanna. You're gonna kill an elk when you're out there, 228 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: you think? Oh yeah, and is this a spot that 229 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: he has been to in his in years? 230 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: Okay, brand new new country. But we scouted it a 231 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: little bit this past weekend and uh we had saw 232 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: some good sign. 233 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: Okay, and maybe maybe we'll get a report on a 234 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: future med Eater radio on how that one goes down. 235 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: That could be we have cell service in there. 236 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: Okay, good, No, Now, the next thing we're doing is 237 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: a segment that I've been looking forward to all week, 238 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: and that's Meat Eater Movie Club. 239 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 5: Oh boy, Oh that's nice, Phil, thank you, thank you 240 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: for that. Of course, today we will be discussing Joe 241 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 5: Carnahan's twenty eleven film The Gray, a harrowing tale of 242 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 5: survival set against the unforgiving Alaskan wilderness. Liam Neeson stars 243 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 5: as John Otway, who is among a group of oil 244 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 5: field workers stranded after a plane crash. In addition to 245 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 5: the brutal cold and relentless wind, the men must also 246 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 5: contend with a pack of ferocious wolves hell bent on 247 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 5: killing each and every one of them. On the surface, 248 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 5: the Gray appears to be a classic survival thriller of 249 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 5: the man versus nature variety. It quickly transforms, however, into 250 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: a profound meditation on life, death, faith, and the resilience 251 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 5: of the human spirit. The bleak, snow covered setting serves 252 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 5: as both a menacing danger to the craft survivors as 253 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: well as a metaphorical canvas for their internal struggles. 254 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: And I'll wrap up here quickly. 255 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: Nissan delivers a powerful performance as Otway, a hardened wolf 256 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 5: hunter grappling with his tragic past while shepherding the other 257 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 5: men in their flight excuse me, in their fight to endure. 258 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 5: The film's unflinching examination of profound themes and its philosophical 259 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 5: undertones elevated above the typical blockbuster fair, inviting viewers to 260 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 5: contemplate their own finite existence, the meaninglessness of human suffering, 261 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: and what it truly means to live in the face 262 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 5: of inevitable death. 263 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: Wow, now what I would like our listeners to know 264 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: who aren't watching this is that Randall wrote that all 265 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: out on a legal pad, and he has what appears 266 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: to be about six pages of notes for our movie 267 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: club discussion on the Gray. 268 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 5: Oh yes, Spencer and I have I have a factoid 269 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 5: here that I asked you guys not to research this 270 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 5: film in advance of our conversation. So according to newspaper 271 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 5: newspaper reports that were also published in Outdoor Life, the 272 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 5: movie's crew obtained four wolf carcasses in advance of production 273 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: from a trapper named Dick mcdeermod, a local of Smithers, BC, 274 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 5: where the movie was filmed. Two of the dead wolves 275 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 5: were used as props and two were eaten by the 276 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 5: cast as part of a pre shoot bonding experience. 277 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: Wow, no shit, yep ye. 278 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: Do you think it worked? Did that feel like a 279 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: bonded cast that you were watching? 280 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: So the the reports that I saw, they were given 281 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 5: a choice of wolf stew or some sort of meat 282 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 5: on the bone, and nearly everyone vomited, except for Liam Neeson. 283 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: He said he went back for seconds of the stew. 284 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: It could not have been that bad to be worthy 285 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: of vomiting. 286 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 5: As they say in the film, Spencer, it tastes like 287 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 5: dog shit. 288 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: Randall's they vomited after eating it, yes, yes, as opposed 289 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: to before a reaction. They're like, oh. 290 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now Randall is going to lead the movie club 291 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: discussion for today, so he just gave us the plot. 292 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: Where do we go to from here? 293 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: I would be curious just for your initial reactions, and Phil, 294 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 5: please free to feel free to chime in. 295 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: I know that you also have screened this, so just thoughts. 296 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: My thoughts. I had low expectations and it barely cleared them. 297 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: You know, this is not like a movie that I 298 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: need to see again. I would say those are my 299 00:14:59,200 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: initial quick thing. 300 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 6: YEP. 301 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: I can wrap it up with this one sentence right here. 302 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: Jennifer was pissed that she had to watch it. 303 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: You know what, I could have had the same sentence, 304 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: but just swap out Jennifer for Shelby. She wandered in 305 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: the room a few times, and she's like, this movie's 306 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: not for me. 307 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: She actually was started being like, hold on, has this 308 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: guy made any good movies? Are all his. 309 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 5: Movies Schindler's List? I have a note here from Sydney. 310 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 5: She said, Are we sure this movie isn't just about 311 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 5: Liam Neeson collecting wallets. 312 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 6: I have the exact same note. One of the last 313 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 6: things I wrote was, let's see a man discovers he 314 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 6: has a wallet collecting fetish. 315 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: That's good, that's. 316 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,479 Speaker 5: Good, all right, So quickly, I'm curious from the perspective 317 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 5: to put a mediator spin on this, from the perspective 318 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 5: of an experienced hunter or angler, was there any part 319 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 5: of this film that was authentic to you? Authentic? 320 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: Four things here that I thought they got right. The 321 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: lighting and night was very good. I feel like movies 322 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: are too eager to have nighttime in the wilderness be 323 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: portrayed as though there's like street lamps everywhere and you 324 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: can just like see, you know, a thousand yards And 325 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: sometimes it's like that a few nights a year it's 326 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: like that, especially when there's snow on the ground, but 327 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: often it's not. And I feel like fictional nighttime scenes 328 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: in the woods are often way too bright. This movie 329 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: didn't do that. They made it good and dark, and 330 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: I thought the lighting around the campfires was fine. 331 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: It was. 332 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few scenes where they could have easily 333 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: when they're like finally get to the forest and they're 334 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: kind of in that hole and they're looking up the 335 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: hill where they can hear the sounds. They could have 336 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: easily lit it up and shown the big monster on 337 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: top of the hill, but they chose not to just 338 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: left it dark. And yeah, there's a lot. 339 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 6: Of film grain. You could tell this movie was shot 340 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 6: on films. Yeah, so's it's a lot darker and more 341 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 6: gritty than movies are made these days. I mean like visually, yeah, yeah, yeah. 342 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: Next next thing I thought they got right when the 343 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: as I think think it was Diaz was cutting the 344 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: head off the wolf, I was like, oh, that that 345 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: knife work looks like what would happen when you're cutting 346 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: the head off the wolf? And I've now learned that 347 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: that was probably one of the four wolf carcass See. 348 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: I had this in my inauthentic column. Oh, I thought 349 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 5: the knife work looked good, but there wasn't enough twisting. 350 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: There wasn't enough twist, enough twisting. 351 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: I thought there was the right amount of struggle. Yeah, 352 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: it took him like a minute to do it, and 353 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, yeah, for a fellow like that, 354 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: that would probably take him like a minute. And the 355 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: last cut of meat looked like it was cleaned through 356 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: like a piece of meat, and I'm now realizing that 357 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: that was probably the case because it was likely one 358 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: of those four wolf. 359 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 5: Carcasses that they had, the two that didn't get eaten. 360 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, that that looked like someone cutting 361 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: the head off of a wolf. So I'm satisfied here. 362 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: It was. 363 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: The next thing, Liam Neeson mentions that wolves have a 364 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 2: territory about three hundred square miles. I did some googling 365 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: and that seems right specific. Yeah, so that seemed good. 366 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: Here's what I like most. The first thing after the 367 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: plane crash that he does is he goes through his 368 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: luggage to find a stocking hat. Now, I've noticed in 369 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: movies that take place in like brutal cold that they 370 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: are not emphasizing that they are cold by putting on 371 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: headgear as far as like a stocking hat or a 372 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: face mask. Game of Thrones is the worst defender of this. 373 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: They can be north of the Wall wandering through the 374 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: worst blizzard that a human has ever seen, but there's 375 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: not like a stocking hat or a face mask to 376 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: be seen, and it's like, it's it's clearly not that cold. 377 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: Are those real people? They're like fictional. 378 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: There's like John snow is the worst defender. He has 379 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: never worn a stocking hat in like ten seasons of 380 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: that show. That's not a real stat but it sure 381 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: seems like it is. So he wanted to wear a 382 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: stocking hat. He was immediately cold, and he's like, I 383 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: need to fix this, and he went for a stocking hat, 384 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: and I thought that was good. 385 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 5: Yep, yeo, honest, why don't you why don't you take 386 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 5: on the question of what you found to be inauthentic? 387 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't get to tell you, my I just yeah, 388 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: a couple of hits. I put him under hit and missus. 389 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: Hits was that they used the strainer to kill somebody. 390 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: And if you're familiar with what a strainer is, if 391 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: you spent time on a river, that's a log that's 392 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: across the river, and a lot of times the current 393 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: can get you pinned up against it and you can't 394 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: get out from that situation. You can get trapped. So 395 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: I thought that was like, oh wow, Like it wasn't 396 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: quite proper because the strainer itself wasn't what got him. 397 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: It was, you know, his foot gets stuck between the rocks. 398 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: But still I like that different snow conditions, Yeah, we had, 399 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, like cold blowing snow, powdery deep snow, and 400 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: then it kind of turns into some more springtime crusty 401 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: and they seem to kind of keep up with that 402 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: even on their jackets. If you noticed in a couple 403 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: of the later scenes they had this like almost crusty, 404 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: frozen to their shoulders snow, which I thought I was thinking, like, man, 405 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: that might not that might not be that easy to 406 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: continuously get right, you know, through the day as you're 407 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: shooting and seen last not least dirty fingernails. Oh, you know, 408 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: very authentic, like when you see some close ups of 409 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: Liam Neeson's hands sometimes, like, dude, those guys, that guy's 410 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: hands look like he's been out in the wilderness for 411 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. 412 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 5: A nice touch, A nice touch. What about inauthenticity? 413 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: Oh boy, My notes were five times and maybe we'll 414 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: keep this too a couple I'll try to do like 415 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: I said, notes were five times longer. I'll just skim 416 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: in here. The day length was way off. Assuming this 417 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: was winter and last year, those days should be three 418 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: to six hours of daylight. They were not. They spent 419 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: equal amounts of time in daylight as they did at nighttime, 420 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: No way, that's that's what would be happening there. How 421 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: the wolves were so audible when they attack. This is 422 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: why I'm looking forward to asking our guest Tyler later, 423 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: who just got attacked by grizzly? Did that grizzly come 424 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: in like announcing its presence and growling and just you know, 425 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: telling you at the top of its lungs, I'm a 426 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: grizzly and I'm here to kill you. Because that's what 427 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: the wolves did. 428 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 6: These these are supernatural wolves. 429 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, these wolves were just sort of. 430 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: The eye shine, the eye shine of the wolves. It's 431 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: impressive enough in real life. They didn't need to make 432 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: it look like their eyes were headlamps. 433 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 3: There was teeth shine in one. 434 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: I didn't catch them. Yeah, we see elk antlers in 435 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: the den, which elk are only found on four islands 436 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: in Way Way Way, southern Alaska, which is not where 437 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: they crashed their plane. So there's no you know, those 438 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: elk were thousands of miles away from home at that point. 439 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: And then, just like the the wolves in general, we 440 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: now know due to modern studies, that there isn't an 441 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: Alfa wolf and they have a whole thing in this 442 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: movie about an alfa alfa wolf being overthrown. That's not 443 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: how their hierarchy works. It's just like family groups. 444 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 6: Uh. 445 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: And and an alpha to researchers in the forties is 446 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: what we now know to just be like the mom 447 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: or dad. And so that that was way off. And 448 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: they made too much of the movie about some of 449 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: the other wolf wanting to become the top wolf, and 450 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: that like factored into. 451 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: And he was the Omega wolf. 452 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the wolves. Last thing just how thirsty 453 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: these wolves are for human blood. Since nineteen twenty two, 454 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: there have been ten fatal attacks in North America from wolves. Well, 455 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: this movie had half of them, You're honest. 456 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: Anything to add uh, Yeah, I had a bunch of 457 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: the same notes. But I'm surprised you didn't pick up 458 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: on the very first one that hit me. And it 459 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: was within I think five or ten minutes of the movie. 460 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: Is that there's a scene where he looks at his 461 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: rifle or he checks his rifle before he's packing up, 462 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: and then it cuts to a box of shotgun shells. 463 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 6: Yes, and I even I caught that, And I'm Phil, 464 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 6: Please Phil, Phil, go to the photo. Phil, Oh, I'm sorry, 465 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 6: hold on. 466 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: After the plane crash, he goes to find that his 467 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: bolt action rifle has been destroyed, and then he goes 468 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: through the AMMO box just for us to three see 469 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: like three shotgun shells. And I was so amused by it, 470 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: I had to take a picture of it. So that 471 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: was his all for his bolt action rifle right there. 472 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: Yes, I did pick up on it. 473 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: We just don't have the time to go through everything. Everything. 474 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 3: There was a lot. 475 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: It's yeah. So on that note, they you know, they 476 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: make a bang stick or supposedly by basically just electrical 477 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: taping these shotgun shells to the end of a pointy stick. 478 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: That's a stretch. Probably not gonna work. The torches and 479 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: the fires were just like a little bit too bright, 480 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: a little bit like you know, weather wasn't affecting their 481 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: torches whatsoever. The logic of going to the trees to escape, yeah, they. 482 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 6: Seemed so well. I guess not all of them were 483 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 6: sure of it, but Liam Neeson was sure that they 484 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 6: had to make it for the forest. 485 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 5: Well, I my my my thought was, as soon as 486 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 5: they crash, He's just like, they're not going to find us. 487 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 5: We need to leave the biggest trace of our existence. Yeah, 488 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 5: we need to leave the most visible landmark Freddy's. For sure, 489 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 5: we need to get away from this plane, which is 490 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 5: the exact option. 491 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: And take their wallet so that when somebody does find 492 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: the wreck, they're not going to know who these guys are, 493 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: which is just so amazing. 494 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: Really quick. 495 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 6: What is John Otway's job? Is it to protect? Yeah? 496 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: Like the wildlife? 497 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 10: Is that? 498 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 6: Is that an actual threat? 499 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: No? 500 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 6: In real life, but they do. 501 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: I mean they do have people serving in those roles 502 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 5: in some instances. For I think it's more for polar 503 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 5: bears and things like that. 504 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, like. 505 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 2: There there'll be a wildlife specialist at an airstrip there, 506 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: but there's not a guy who's just there to gun 507 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: down the wolves. 508 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 6: As they come running into Yes, it's clear this man 509 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 6: has a has a checkered past, possibly as like a 510 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 6: hit man or a mercenary. I loved one of the 511 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: first things he says is I don't know why I 512 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 6: did half the things I've done, but I know this 513 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: is where I belong. And I thought that that really 514 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 6: sets the stage for who. 515 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: This guy is. 516 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love I love films that have one guy 517 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: who sort of knows everything and is the expert and 518 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: then there's like ten other characters, and because there's nothing 519 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 5: memorable about them, they have to always addressed one another 520 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 5: by name. So it's just like it's just like, Bill, 521 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 5: what did you do to John? I didn't do anything, 522 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 5: Tim John did that himself, you know, like that's the 523 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 5: whole movie. I think half of the dialogue was them 524 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 5: repeating their name so you'd remember that there are characters. 525 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then half of it was f bombs. 526 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: I did look up there are and I apologize for 527 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 5: anyone who screened this and was put off by the profanity. 528 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 3: I wasn't aware of it until we picked it. 529 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 5: But one hundred and sixty one uses of the word 530 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 5: in one hundred and seventeen minutes that puts you somewhere 531 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 5: between Magic Mike and Born on the fourth of July. 532 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 6: So, okay, not quite good fella's numbers. 533 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: No, it really discredits the guy that's supposed to be 534 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: the expert when all of a sudden, he's like, let's 535 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: run into the forest. They'll never find us there. 536 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 537 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: The other thing that was a little bit of a 538 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: stretch Jennifer actually picked up on this one was that 539 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: their sub alpine because they're in the timber and the 540 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: rotund fella I can't remember his name, but he gets 541 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: altitude sickness ends up dying from it. 542 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 6: Was that Hernandez. I can well, guys, all these memorable characters, yeah, 543 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 6: hear it, We've got Diaz Hernando. 544 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: But you just you know, like Max, you might be 545 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: at five thousand feet. That's a stretch to put someone down. 546 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: Guys, we could go on for a very long time. 547 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: With Yes, you have ten more pages of notes, but. 548 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: I think we need to wrap this up. 549 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 5: My plan was to ask you whether or not you 550 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 5: could recommend this around the campfire and maintain a shred 551 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 5: of your credibility as an outdoorsman. But based on your 552 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 5: reactions to the film, I'm not quite sure that we 553 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 5: need more than a one word answer. 554 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: I would not two out of five stars, be honest. 555 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, one point five out of five Phil, just as 556 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: just would you please just rate it as a work 557 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: of cinema. 558 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 6: I think Spencer's right on the money. This is a 559 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 6: two out of five. But I say I was working 560 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 6: at a movie theater and this movie came out and 561 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 6: it was very popular. It was also a very popular 562 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 6: movie to find a dip cups in spit cups after Wow, 563 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 6: it's that kind of genre movie. You knew after a 564 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 6: screening of The Gray be careful picking up cups because 565 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 6: you might flip some up. 566 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 5: I will say this movie actually was critically acclaimed. 567 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: It was well received. 568 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: But I did find one quip that I'll share with 569 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 5: you which is less than celebratory. It says, on the downside, 570 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: there's a lot of dull, pretentious flossiphizing about the heartlessness 571 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: of nature and God. On the upside, you get to 572 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: see a man punch a wolf in the face. Okay, 573 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: that's the Gray, everybody, That is the upside. 574 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 6: I will say one last thing that I want to say. 575 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 6: My favorite scene in the whole movie was when Talgot 576 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 6: is afraid of heights is climbing. This is the most 577 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 6: preposterous scene in the movie, and I loved it. They 578 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 6: may make like a makeshift like line to go down 579 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 6: this for this ravine. His glasses fall off, He's terrified. 580 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 6: He falls, slams into a tree, falls one hundred feet down, 581 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 6: hitting every branch on the way, imagines his daughter's tickling 582 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 6: him in the face. Immediately cuts to a bunch of 583 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 6: wolves ripping him apart. 584 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, hell, the wolves cross that giant canyon. That's why 585 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: I was going. 586 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: Three hundred mile territory. They can be wherever you think 587 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: they're not. 588 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: Did it come into your minds at all that fourteen 589 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: years prior to this movie coming out, there was this 590 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: great movie called The Edge. They came out and it 591 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: was way better. Yeah, And I could see that someone 592 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: was like, let's just redo that with wolves and maybe 593 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: instead of the guys you know having sex with the 594 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: same woman, you know this guy, whatever, we'll chick twist 595 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: off the plot a little bit. 596 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 5: I mean, The Edge could be eligible for a future 597 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 5: mediater movie Club. 598 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: I'd much rather rewatch that. 599 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: And if people have a suggestion, they should send their 600 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: movie suggestion for the media to movie club, to radio 601 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: at the meadeater dot com. All right, boys, we are 602 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: going to move on. The next thing we are doing 603 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: is a segment, a new segment called one Minute Fishing. 604 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: Do I be lucky, We'll do you dunk, go ahead, 605 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: make my cast. 606 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: All right. One minute Fishing is where we go live 607 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: to someone who's fishing and they have one minute to 608 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: catch a fish, and if they're successful, we'll make a 609 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars donation to a Conservation group. This week 610 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: our angler is Seth Morris who's at the pond behind 611 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: our office and he's fishing for a donation to Trout Unlimited. 612 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: Seth Morris, doctor lip Ripper, Welcome to the show and 613 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: happy birthday. 614 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, appreciate it. 615 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: You don't look at day over thirty three. 616 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 6: Thanks Randall, I appreciate you. 617 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: Now, Seth, tell us about the conditions out there and 618 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: how you are going to try to be successful with 619 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: just one minute of fishing. 620 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, so we're out back behind the office here. I'm 621 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 11: in a spot that I fished plenty of times before 622 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 11: and have caught quite a few fish, usually brook trout, 623 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 11: but we got some in twelve coming in here from 624 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 11: a creek, a little current over there, some shade. I 625 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 11: think that's gonna be the spot where I catch them. 626 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 11: Hope bringers crossed and. 627 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: You were scouting this morning, but you didn't make any 628 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: cast because he wanted the trout to stay dumb until 629 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: it got to the moment that mattered. 630 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 8: Are you? 631 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Are you? What's the lure of choice? And if like 632 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: thirty seconds in are you, do you have another lure 633 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: in your pocket that you might switch to? If that 634 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: one's not working. 635 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 6: No, I'm going All the eggs are in this basket 636 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 6: right here. 637 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 5: It's a number four, little number four spinner panther Martin. 638 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 5: It's got a yellow body and some red dots. Silver blade. 639 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 5: And this is to be clear for those of you 640 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 5: who are listening. Set this fishing on the small pond 641 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 5: behind our office. Behind him is some sort of nondescript 642 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 5: commercial development that's out the Bozeman And we're gonna see 643 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 5: what you can do here. 644 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, is going for a trout. That's mostly what lives 645 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: in there. Seth, Your one minute of fishing starts when 646 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 2: you make your first cast. I will give you updates 647 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: as you go. So go ahead and try to catch 648 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: that fish. 649 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. It looks like it's still 650 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: cool out there, late late in the morning. Seth's got 651 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: his uh black furnace hoodie for first. 652 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: How many casts do you think he can get in 653 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: one minute on this little pond? 654 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 6: Five? 655 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: I think yeah, okay, way more than that. 656 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 5: Well, he is not a real aggressive retrieval he's using. 657 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: He's now twenty seconds in, Seth, you have forty sevens. 658 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: Ohay, he farmed it? 659 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: Did he miss it? 660 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: He farmed it, ladies and gentlemen. 661 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: Oh he missed it. 662 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh goodness, Seth. You Seth had a fish on 663 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: and just sat too hard and pulled it right off 664 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: his lip. 665 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: Seth, you got twenty seconds to go twenty seconds. 666 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there goes that fishing. Seth's palms look 667 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: like they're getting a little sweaty. Ten seconds, Seth fine, 668 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: crystal clear video three two. 669 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: Well, let's let him. Let's let him. 670 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 6: Didn't the real sound effect next time? 671 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: Well for Seth, Seth, now tell us what happened on 672 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: that bite that you had. 673 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: Was it a bite? 674 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 6: Indeed? 675 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a bite? 676 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 11: And I just had one there on that last cast too. 677 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: Oh man, I don't know. 678 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 4: You just didn't hook up. 679 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: Well, it looks like you need two minutes of fishing 680 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: next time. Maybe sharper hook be successful. 681 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: Eat some barbes on those hooks, Seth. 682 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 4: Oh their bar buddy, Seth. 683 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. We're gonna have you join 684 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: us again for another one minute fishing sometime and uh yeah, 685 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna be a regular on this segment. 686 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 6: Okay, really quick. 687 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: I just saw a comment from Stephen Ranella, who must 688 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: be tuned in I don't know. 689 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 6: It's like Steve's watching. 690 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't know where the hell he is. He has 691 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: enough time to sit here and watch this show. But 692 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: Steve says, when I propose this segment, I suggested that 693 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: you get a single cast, not a whole minute. 694 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 695 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: And then I took Steve's idea and I changed it 696 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: to one minute fishing instead of one cast of fishing. 697 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: You know what, I like this version better. 698 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: He's still going, he's still going. 699 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Seth, keep fishing out there. Let us 700 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: know later when you get one. Maybe maybe you can 701 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: carry it right into the studio here for us, because 702 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: you're only about twenty yards away. 703 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 704 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: If I catch one, I'll bring it in. 705 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, very happy birthday. 706 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 6: Birthday, Seth, thanks for joining us. 707 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: Phil. 708 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: Let's get some listener feedback from the show so far. 709 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 6: Oh boy, okay, let's see we have one from Shelby Huber. 710 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 6: I don't know if you're aware of her, she says, 711 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 6: I know for a fact that Spencer loves donkeys. 712 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh okay. 713 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 6: This goes back to our segment with the other Seth, 714 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 6: are you a fan of donkeys? 715 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: Is this the thing that's as far as like, I 716 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: guess equestrian things go if I were ranking them all, Yeah, 717 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: maybe a donkey. 718 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: Do you do you have a stuffed donkey at home? 719 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 12: No? 720 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 2: No, I don't think there's a stuffed animal in my home. 721 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 6: Uh sorry, Karen, I can't focus on that right now. 722 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 6: Let's see there there haven't been a lot of good comments. 723 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 6: I gotta be honest, you guys need to step it 724 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 6: up a little bit. 725 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 9: But I'm just gonna say Shane Burke, who is on 726 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 9: our podcast before Survive the Grizzly Attack uh in Wyoming 727 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 9: said Steth forgot to say fish on when it took. 728 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: That's a very good Okay, lesson learned for next time. 729 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 2: And commenters keep leaving us some feedback and we will 730 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: review them again at the end of the show. 731 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 6: We do have a couple a couple of gray gray 732 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 6: uh things. It's bringing talking about John Snow not wearing 733 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 6: a hat. Their all a game of throne. That's the 734 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 6: intensity of his gaze. That keeps I think that's true. 735 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 6: That's that's just biology. 736 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 3: That's a good comment. 737 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 6: Uh Yeah. Anyway, keep keep senden in comments. 738 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, make them provocative. 739 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, move questions. 740 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 6: Questions are better than statement. 741 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: Sure. 742 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: Moving on, our next segment is from Chester Floyd. This 743 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 2: is Chettiquit. 744 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 6: Oh, I've got a sounder for this here. G T 745 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 6: you e T T E find out Bud means to me. 746 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: G g T you t T take care of gg. 747 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: Incredible? 748 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, no talent, it's boiling over. 749 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: That was not going to be a weekly segment, but 750 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: I think all of a sudden it just became one. 751 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 2: So I can hear that sounder every time. Phil is 752 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: going to play us a chettiquet that was pre recorded 753 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: from our very own Chester Floyd. 754 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 7: Hello everybody, I'm Chester Floyd, coming at you from Wisconsin, 755 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 7: and this week's Chettiqit question comes to us from Corey. 756 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 7: Corey writes, years ago, my co worker and his wife 757 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 7: were expecting their first child in October. I agreed to 758 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 7: work longer on my hitch, sacrificing hunting time to support them. 759 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 7: A few days after birth, he sent me photos of 760 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 7: a dead elk instead of a newborn baby. Later, I 761 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 7: discovered he left his wife and the newborn in the 762 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 7: hospital to hunt out of state, causing me to miss 763 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 7: prime mule deer hunting. While trying to help him out. 764 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 7: I would love to know your thoughts, and I'm curious 765 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 7: as to how many others would have done the same. Wow, Corey, 766 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 7: thank you for writing in and sounds like you're a 767 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 7: pretty good man for doing that for your buddy. We 768 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 7: need more guys like you looking out for others, and 769 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 7: less guys like your buddy, who seems like a pretty 770 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 7: selfish dude. More of the story is, I imagine your 771 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 7: buddy knows he messed up. I mean, ultimately, what's more 772 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 7: important your family and a newborn, a dead elk, you know, 773 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 7: or friendship? So I think everyone knows the answer to that. 774 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 7: The point is you don't ever leave your wife and 775 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 7: your child in the hospital for any reason. And if 776 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 7: you're gonna send a picture to your buddy of a 777 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 7: dead elk, he better not be covering you on your 778 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 7: shift for something not related to hunting at all. We'll 779 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 7: see you next week again. I'm Chester, Floyd, and this 780 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 7: is Chetniki. 781 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: Being called not a very good guy by Chester. That 782 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 2: hurts extra, That hurts three times. 783 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 3: That hurt him to say it. 784 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 2: It did, it certainly did. Now, Yanni, you're you're a father, 785 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: an elk hunter, a family man. 786 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 13: Give us your feedback on this subject Chester spot On, 787 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 13: But I'm a little bit confused about Corey that wrote 788 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 13: in that he was also he's kind of like bummed 789 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 13: out and asking about two separate things because he was like, 790 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 13: my buddy left his family in the hospital. 791 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: But also he called me and I missed out on 792 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: some prime mule deer hunt. So if those two are 793 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: not related to me, I feel like, hey, man, if 794 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: you're a good buddy, then sure you're just hold on. Sorry, 795 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: rock who trout there's probably not gonna survive the day. 796 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: He's running back to the pond to throw it in. 797 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: That's our new segment ten minutes of Fishing, where we 798 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: see if Seth can hook into a trout, and he 799 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 2: was successful, but that does not mean a donation today. 800 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 2: What a phenomenal start to one minute fishing. 801 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: Yes, but the comments are going to roll in now 802 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: from the fly fishing Catch and release Elite will be thick. 803 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: I will vouch for Seth. That will fetfish is already 804 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: swimming by. 805 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 5: Now. 806 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: That's how close we are to this pond. You could 807 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 2: spit from our back door. 808 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 6: Tyler wants us to fry something on air next time 809 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 6: that happens. That's something maybe we can do at some 810 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 6: point or. 811 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: Listen, there's a segment coming down the road someday that's 812 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 2: going to involve George Foreman's But for now, we need 813 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: to move on and we are going to talk to 814 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: Tyler Johnson. Tyler Johnson survived a brown bear attack but 815 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 2: accidentally shot himself during the encounter. He is live from 816 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: an airport in Alaska right now. Tyler, welcome to the show. 817 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: We've been really excited to talk to you and we're 818 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: glad you're still around to share your story. First thing, 819 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 2: tell us what you were doing that day when you 820 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: had the grizzly bear encounter. 821 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: Oh, you muted buddy, feels got him. 822 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 6: I've got him, all right? 823 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 12: Yeah, Now it was honey, black bear with my father 824 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 12: and well we found the wrong color bear. 825 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah's it? 826 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 2: And where were you in Alaska? 827 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 12: The Kenai Peninsula. It's you know, south of Anchorage. We're 828 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 12: a resurrection trail. Is it's a trail that kind of 829 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 12: hooks seward and hope. It's a forty three mile trail 830 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 12: and we're seventeen miles deep into there. 831 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 2: Now, tell us what happened in the minutes leading up 832 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: to the encounter. How did you wind up in the 833 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: same exact spot as this grizzly. 834 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 12: Well, we were falling a horse trail and uh it 835 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 12: was a really old trail. I was just flagging and 836 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 12: you know when you're trying to fall a flag and 837 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 12: it's kind of hard with just the brush around trying 838 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 12: to find it. We kind of lost a trail for 839 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 12: a little bit. We're hiking around trying to find the trail. 840 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 12: There was just these willows and the olders. I don't 841 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 12: know if they ever tried hiking through them, but they're 842 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 12: extremely difficult to hike through with the pack on. We 843 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 12: ended up finding the trail and it was like almost 844 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 12: like a tunnel through the the willows there. My dad 845 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 12: found the flag first, so he goes ahead ahead of me, 846 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 12: and uh, well, when he was about fifteen yards ahead 847 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 12: of me, I exited out of that tunnel kind of 848 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 12: into like this metal. The wind wasn't blowing, so it's 849 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 12: not like she could have sniffed us. I couldn't. We 850 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 12: couldn't smell her or anything like that. We just kind 851 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 12: of all surprise each other. 852 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 4: The grass was. 853 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 12: Oh no, it's hard for me to remember that because moment, 854 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 12: but it might have been hip high maybe higher, and 855 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 12: we all surprise each other. I think I'll think about 856 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 12: top ramin that night. You know what else you want 857 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 12: to have for dinner? 858 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 2: Okay, Now the surprise encounter? Was it an audible thing? First? 859 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: Did you see the bear? Did you smell the bear? 860 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 10: Like? 861 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: What was your first clue that this was about to 862 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 2: be bad? 863 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 12: So my dad and the bear yelled at the same time, 864 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 12: or roared and yelled. Like I said, I was behind 865 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 12: my dad. I didn't smell her. You know, you always 866 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 12: like you can smell the bear before you see it, right, 867 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 12: not this one. 868 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 10: At least. I wasn't trying to find a smell for 869 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 10: a bear at that moment. 870 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 4: And she growled. 871 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 12: My dad said, bear, bear, bear, And I mean it 872 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 12: was instantaneous. She did her yell enough to like stop 873 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 12: your heart. She sprinted towards my dad, charged my dad 874 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 12: and this is four seconds like I mean, her growl. 875 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 12: I'm on my back four seconds. Yeah, like I said, 876 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 12: there was no rule like warning except for I'm coming 877 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 12: to get. 878 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 5: You, you know. 879 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 2: So what happened then when the bear had you on 880 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 2: your back and it was on top of you, so she. 881 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 10: She hit me like a train man. My feet went 882 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 10: over my head. 883 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 12: I was still trying to unholster my pistol right when 884 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 12: she was right in front of me when she hit me, 885 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 12: I have a police holder. 886 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 10: My dad's a trooper, so he let me. 887 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 12: He was his police holster that has a buttony press 888 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 12: and then the strap moves forward. Well, once you hit me, 889 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 12: the strap move forward, and I pulled my pistol. My 890 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 12: legs went over my head, and I don't know if 891 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 12: it was just reacting, you know. I tried maybe trying 892 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 12: to kick the bear away. Trying to kick and shoot 893 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 12: at the same time doesn't work out. So I ended 894 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 12: up putting a bullet through my left thigh and then 895 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 12: the rest of the bullets found her neck and face. 896 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 10: Repeated it. 897 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: And when when you shot yourself, did you know in 898 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 2: that moment that you would shot yourself? 899 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: No? 900 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 12: No, I mean you can imagine that a drownine with 901 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 12: a brown bear on top of you, grabbing your leg. 902 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 10: And you know, chewing on you. 903 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 4: It was yeah. 904 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 10: I was just shoot first and then look at the 905 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 10: wounds later, you know. 906 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, Chyler, do you have any idea about how 907 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: big this bear was? 908 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 12: I don't really have a scale to really match it 909 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 12: with because I've never personally been like this close to 910 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 12: a bear or right next to it, like we laid 911 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 12: next to that bear for two hours. 912 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 10: I've seen him, you know, all my hunts from Afar. 913 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 12: I know it was a big bear. My father he 914 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 12: sees bears all the time. He estimated it was like 915 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 12: four hundred plus. She was fifteen years old. She had 916 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 12: a caller on we I got to see that up close. Well, 917 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 12: and yeah, they went out and retrieved the caller and 918 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 12: the data came back that she was fifteen years old, 919 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 12: so she wasn't a young or super old bear. 920 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,919 Speaker 4: It was a yeah. 921 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: And how many shots were taken between you and your dad, 922 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 2: and how many of those bullets found the bear? 923 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 12: So personally I can say I believe one bullet found 924 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 12: my leg, the other seven found the bear in the 925 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 12: face and neck. It's kind of hard to miss when 926 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 12: it's right here in front of face. Except well, I 927 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 12: did just say shot myself. But besides the point my dad, 928 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 12: you know, he wasn't just standing there. He was getting 929 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 12: a different angle on the bear when it was on 930 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 12: top of me, and so that's his point of view. 931 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 12: All he saw was my legs go up and then 932 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 12: you know, a bear's butt, and so he went into 933 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 12: a different angle so he didn't shoot through the bear. 934 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 12: To me, I did know he unloaded the whole magazine 935 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 12: into the bear when it was next to me, like 936 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 12: in its head, because I don't know what I hit 937 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 12: to stop the bear from mauling you. As you know, 938 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 12: if you when you go hunting and you shoot a bear, 939 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 12: you shoot it through the lungs and it can run 940 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 12: a mile. Right, And he got a pissed off sal 941 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 12: You can shoot her in the chest fifteen times and 942 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 12: she'll still try to you know, Mallya. But that seventh 943 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 12: shot I saw her give up for all over. 944 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 10: It's kind of hard to describe. 945 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 12: But then my dad has forty I think it holds 946 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 12: twenty rounds, so he emptied it into the head. When 947 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 12: she fell over, he came over, she was still breathing. 948 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 2: Twenty rounds for her. Twenty rounds that he put into 949 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 2: the bear's head. What's that Twenty rounds is how many 950 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 2: times he shot the bear. 951 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 12: I believe, so with an adrenaline field. Father, pissed off father, 952 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 12: you can imagine that. Yeah, you know, he's probably clicking 953 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 12: until it wasn't Byron anymore. 954 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: That's that's incredible. Now, Tyler, do you think you'd be 955 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 2: talking to us today if you guys just had bear 956 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: spray with you? 957 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 10: No? Absolutely not. 958 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 12: No, Okay, I will say bearsfrey doesn't work in certain situations, 959 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 12: but this one would not have worked. I would have 960 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 12: been peppers or bear sprayed myself and gain mauled at 961 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 12: that time. I she would have went right through that. 962 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 12: Like I say, it was four seconds. I probably could 963 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 12: have got the whole story of the caster out and sprayed. 964 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 12: But it w'd been boom, you know. Yeah, thats hard 965 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 12: to say that what it weren't of. 966 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 2: At the end of the call here, Tyler would like 967 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 2: you to show us our wounds, but first let's talk 968 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: about them. How how did the recovery go immediately afterwards? 969 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 2: And how did you get out of that situation. 970 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 10: Immediately afterwards? So we went straight into the triage. 971 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 12: We have we bring a trauma kit whenever you go hunting, 972 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 12: you know as the quick clot turn of kits chest, 973 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 12: you know, all that, all the stuff that really comes 974 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 12: with a trauma kit. Looking down my leg, I remember 975 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 12: looking at my dad said, I think I shot myself. 976 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 12: Rip my pants open, realize I have a bowl hole 977 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 12: in my leg. We got the quick clot out, so 978 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 12: we were fully addressing that issue right away, because you know, 979 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 12: a bollhole isn't no joke, right, So we put quick 980 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 12: clod on there. I have rubber band, pulled it tight 981 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 12: the way it stayed there, and then we started going 982 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 12: down triage on my body. Noticed that my right leg 983 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 12: was filling up with blood, ripped my pants. I couldn't 984 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 12: see the injury, like very definitively with all the blood 985 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 12: around there, so we just grabbed more quick cloth, wrapped 986 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 12: my leg in that, wrapped it in a wrap, grabbed 987 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 12: the tourniquet. 988 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 10: Tourniquet in my leg. 989 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 12: I didn't even know the bear clawed me in the 990 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 12: side of my leg until a half hour later. The 991 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 12: drilling was still going through me, and I was just 992 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 12: focusing on keep my heart rate down, just trying to 993 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 12: be in the situation very calm, because panicing doesn't help anyone, 994 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 12: and when you panic, a heart rate goes up and 995 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 12: so on and so forth. So I didn't move from 996 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 12: that situation. Right where I fell and the bear fell, 997 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 12: we were right. 998 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 10: Next to each other for an hour and forty five minutes, 999 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 10: so I stayed. 1000 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 3: Put and did you guys have an in reach with you? 1001 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,919 Speaker 3: Is that yep? 1002 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so you had they come in with a 1003 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 5: helicopter then and took you straight to the hospital. 1004 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 3: I imagine. 1005 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 12: Yep, that's exactly what they did. We had multiple helicopters 1006 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 12: come to get come to get me RCC, their pj's 1007 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 12: and the troopers there just you know, as a continuency. 1008 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 12: If one were to not make it, the other one 1009 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 12: would pick me up. So the troopers got their first 1010 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 12: dragged me out of there on a tarp kind of 1011 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 12: like pulled myself in there. They're like, do you want 1012 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 12: to wait for the PJS. I was like, nah, man, 1013 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 12: let's get out of here right. 1014 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1015 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 12: So I remember the helicopter ride. It was a beautiful day. 1016 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 12: I even said in my video. I mean in Alaska, 1017 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 12: sixty five degrees, no clouds, Like looking around, have a 1018 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 12: hole in my leg. It's beautiful out. 1019 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 10: The helicopter ride, and I remember looking out like, oh 1020 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 10: that's beautiful. 1021 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 4: That hurts. 1022 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 12: That's beautiful. Ah that hurts, you know, it's just yeah, 1023 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 12: helicopter ride there. 1024 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 2: Tyler, you got topan something that few people will ever know. 1025 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 2: Do you now have any advice going forward something you 1026 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 2: learned from this encounter that you'd like to share with 1027 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 2: our listeners. 1028 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, some people go hunting alone. They know 1029 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 10: the dangers of that. 1030 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 12: Personally, if I didn't have the partner I had at 1031 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 12: that time, I wouldn't be here right now. There's actually 1032 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 12: a few factors that lead up to me talking right now, 1033 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 12: and that's having a good partner, knowing how to operate 1034 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 12: and reach trauma kit. 1035 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 10: On top of that, you know, like a lot of people. 1036 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 12: Just carry you know that walmart Red, you know, mule 1037 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 12: skin for your heels, band aids. I had dine that 1038 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 12: tournique potentially saved my life and quick clot and everything 1039 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 12: with that, and well having a firearm saved my life too. 1040 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 6: So Tyler, really quick, you've got a question asking how 1041 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 6: long you kept your tourniquet on. 1042 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 10: Two hours? 1043 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 12: It sucked well, but hey, pain won't kill you, but 1044 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 12: blood loss will. 1045 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 4: Right. 1046 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler, this happened twelve days ago. Can you tell 1047 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 2: us about the recovery process and then show us your 1048 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 2: wounds or what you can show us. 1049 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1050 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, So they let me go on good behavior from 1051 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 12: the hospital that night. I have family that lived nearby. 1052 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 12: They were taking care of me. So I was able 1053 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 12: to leave that day with a huge bag of bandages 1054 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 12: and everything. They wanted to keep everything open because infection 1055 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 12: bears don't brush their teeth or wash their hands, you know, 1056 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 12: so they carry a lot of bacteria in that. So 1057 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 12: I had to take antibiotics. I had pain meds for 1058 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 12: a little bit, but stop taking those on Saturday. 1059 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 10: You know. 1060 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 12: Irgrofen has been working just fine for me. I'm a 1061 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 12: little bit stubborn. So I found myself going out to 1062 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 12: the fair and just walking around with crutches. 1063 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 10: I'm familiar with them, so I was. 1064 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 12: Being to quite a bit on that, and I actually 1065 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 12: think that's why I'm healing so fast, with the blood moving, 1066 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 12: being able to move my body and everything like that. 1067 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 12: Right now, I have my walking stick and I can 1068 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 12: barely get around. But you know, I'm walking with a 1069 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 12: walking stick right now. 1070 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 2: So and can can you show us the wounds real quick? 1071 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:17,919 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1072 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, they're they're covered up. I can't take them off 1073 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 12: because they're open wounds. 1074 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 4: Right. 1075 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 10: So this is my leg where she bit into. I 1076 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 10: got punctures here on the front, on the back. 1077 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 4: My leg. 1078 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 10: Right here a shot. 1079 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 12: Let's see if I get the bullet went into here, 1080 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 12: exit out my leg down below here, and uh, there's 1081 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 12: just like black powder on my leg. It was so 1082 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 12: it was probably like the muscle is probably touching my leg. 1083 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 12: And then I got the claw right around here lower 1084 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 12: and yeah, those are my extent of my injuries. I 1085 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 12: feel pretty lucky that that's it, because I know they 1086 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 12: can touch you. And then oh and she she actually 1087 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 12: tried ripping my face off. I think my backpack actually, 1088 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 12: because I have a frame that goes over my head. 1089 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 12: I have claw marks on my shoulder. I think the 1090 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 12: first thing she tried to do was bat me across 1091 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 12: a face and I kind of went down and she 1092 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 12: hit my backpack and went across my shoulder. 1093 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 2: M crazy stuff. Steve Ranella is gonna be jealous that 1094 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 2: you have those wounds and he doesn't. Uh, now you 1095 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 2: can don't recommend your story. Yeah, yeah, you can read 1096 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 2: our story and see pictures of Tyler Woon Tyler's wounds 1097 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 2: at the mediater dot com. The article was written by 1098 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 2: Jordan Sillers and it's called brown bear attack leaves Alaskan 1099 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 2: hunter with bite and bullet wounds. Tyler, thanks for joining us, 1100 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 2: and next time you get scratched it by a grizzly. 1101 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 2: Let us know, and you'll be on the show. 1102 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 4: Again right on. 1103 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 10: Thanks guys, than Styler. 1104 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 2: Joanni, you had a close encounter in Alaska. It's one 1105 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 2: of my favorite podcasts ever, The Meat Tree. How how 1106 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 2: how close do you think like that situation was to 1107 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 2: being like what Tyler. 1108 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: Experienced as close as you can get. I guess if that. 1109 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 2: Bear just had like a slightly different attitude that day, 1110 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 2: it might have went the same same way. 1111 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so hard to say, but I mean, 1112 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: we had a bear literally in between six humans that 1113 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: was most likely trying to run us off of the 1114 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 1: meat that we had stashed in that tree the day before. 1115 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that we were I don't know 1116 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 1: how to put it, milliseconds or just you know, one 1117 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 1: not connected swing of the poles to the bear's head maybe, 1118 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, hard to say, but yeah, And. 1119 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 2: It seems like he agreed with the Gray or with 1120 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 2: the gray there that the bear came in loud and 1121 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 2: the attack was like quite audible, Yes, which is what 1122 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 2: something I critiqued in the Gray. Now we're gonna move on. 1123 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,839 Speaker 2: The next thing we're doing is giving our top three 1124 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 2: states that we'd like to own a hunting property. And 1125 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 2: this is the last segment that we'll do for today. 1126 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 2: And boys, I'm gonna go first the number three state 1127 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 2: that I'd like to own a hunting property in Illinois. 1128 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: Oh, hold on, you're ranking them, ranking them. 1129 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 2: That's all right, you just had a random list over there. 1130 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 1: Well, I picked like the three the three, Okay, I 1131 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: have reasons for each three. 1132 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 2: Well, while I tell you why I like Illinois, you 1133 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 2: figure out what you're one, two and three. Illinois is 1134 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 2: a two bucks state, which I love. They had the 1135 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 2: second most Boon and Crockett entries in the country. Two 1136 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 2: of the six biggest white tails of all time were killed. 1137 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 2: Their average price per acre of land in Illinois nine 1138 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 2: five hundred and eighty dollars. That makes it some of 1139 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 2: the most expensive ground in the country. For context, the 1140 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,879 Speaker 2: average price per acre in Texas is two thousand, five 1141 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 2: hundred dollars and in Montana it's one thousand dollars. So 1142 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 2: you're just like, good bang for your buck. If I'm 1143 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 2: picking somewhere to inherit property at, it's gonna be Illinois. 1144 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 2: And their gun seasons take place after the rut, which 1145 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 2: for a state managing for giant deer. That's the right move. 1146 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,959 Speaker 2: So I really like that their gun seasons don't stick 1147 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 2: art until late November. Gives bow hunters a chance to 1148 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 2: haunt the bus the best days of the rut. And 1149 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 2: if I could put my hunting land anywhere in the state, 1150 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 2: I put it right in the Golden Triangle of white 1151 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 2: tails in western Illinois, which is the intersection of Pike, 1152 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 2: Brown and Adams County. Number three Illinois. Yanni, what is 1153 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,240 Speaker 2: your third state that you would like to own? Hunting property? 1154 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: In Mississippi for the furthest sake that I just want 1155 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: to extend my turkey and deer season. Yeah, so I 1156 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,760 Speaker 1: would get to start hunting turkeys a little bit earlier 1157 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: and then I would hunt deer a little bit later. 1158 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably got a deer season into like February 1159 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 2: down there, Mississippi, and I think ever since they went 1160 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 2: to their Antler Point restriction, they were kind of like 1161 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 2: one of the golden examples for the rest of the country. 1162 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,399 Speaker 2: It made a huge difference for the quality of deer 1163 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: that they harvest there. Randal your number three. 1164 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 5: State going out in left field here, California, whoa explain? 1165 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 5: Just trying to be prerogative, but the season that it 1166 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 5: would expand my season pigs. I would love a place 1167 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 5: where I could hunt pigs. Ye, do a little wine country, 1168 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 5: you know. I just it'd be good for the whole family. 1169 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 2: Would your hunting property have an orchard on it? 1170 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 5: I'm thinking so a vineyard, Okay, yeah, but yeah, I 1171 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 5: mean it's a lovely place to visit. You can maybe 1172 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 5: uh maybe be strategically located so you could do a 1173 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 5: bit of fishing as well. 1174 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1175 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 1: I could see you in a big old vat of grapes, 1176 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: maybe stripped down to not much and just jumping up 1177 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:29,439 Speaker 1: and down. 1178 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 4: You can. 1179 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 2: Mashing them with his toes. Now, Phil, I'm about to 1180 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 2: read my number two. Do you have a little sounder 1181 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 2: to play over there after I announce what my state is? 1182 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: You know, I was. 1183 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 6: I made one. Well, and it's it's too long, Okay, 1184 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 6: So I can just do the the trivia Winter South 1185 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 6: if you want the. 1186 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 2: Numbers two state. I'd like to own a hunting property 1187 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 2: in Kentucky. Kentucky has an amazing mix of egg timber 1188 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 2: and topography that's pretty unique to that part of the country. 1189 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 2: The hill come tree is awesome because eighty acres in Kentucky, 1190 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 2: like in that part of the world that hunts a 1191 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 2: way bigger than eighty acres in most places. It's sort 1192 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 2: of where the Midwest ends and the South begins. You 1193 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 2: happen to be getting the best of both worlds there. 1194 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 2: In my opinion, they have one of the longest archery 1195 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 2: seasons in the nation, goes from early September to late January, 1196 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 2: just similar to what you liked about Mississippi. Because of 1197 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 2: that early September opener, you have a chance at velvet Buck. 1198 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 2: They have some of the best fall weather in the country. 1199 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 2: I'm convinced of that. You still get like frost in 1200 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 2: the morning, but you're not gonna freeze your butt off. 1201 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 2: They have the sixth most boone and crocket whitetail entries 1202 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 2: in the nation, which is more than states like Texas, Missouri, 1203 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 2: and Kansas. And you can kill multiple turkeys there during 1204 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 2: the spring and fall seasons. They have the sixth biggest 1205 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 2: turkey population in the United States. My number two pick 1206 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 2: is Kentucky. Yanni your number. 1207 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: Two, I'm gonna go with Montana. The reason it's not 1208 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: number one is because one of the reasons I live 1209 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: here is we have so much public land us, right, 1210 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: And it's true for a lot of Western states and 1211 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: so and if I was to get some hunting property, 1212 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't even be really needed so much to 1213 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 1: hunt the property, but I would make sure that it 1214 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: backs up to some hard to get to public Yeah. 1215 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: So just give me like a little bit of a 1216 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: head start, you know, maybe by five to ten miles 1217 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: from the nearest trailheads. 1218 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 5: And of course you'd offer that access to any interested 1219 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 5: member of the public. 1220 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: It's probably wine. 1221 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 3: Okay, Oh I like that. 1222 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 2: Okay, with buttering, I got I got corn for you boys. Randal, 1223 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 2: your number two stay, you'd like to own a hunting property. 1224 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 5: Well, this is a little embarrassing, but my number two 1225 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 5: state is also Kentucky. 1226 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, tell me why I. 1227 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 5: Grew up in Cincinnati. Kentucky's just across the river. I 1228 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 5: think one of the great things about owning a hunting 1229 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 5: property is you can share it with people that you know. 1230 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 5: And so I would say, ohio. 1231 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 2: U huh, but there's too many people you know there. 1232 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 5: I love center fire rifles, shooting bottleneck cartridges, yep, and 1233 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 5: Kentucky's and rifle season allows that. 1234 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 3: Ohios. The straight wall state. 1235 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 5: And as you said, the hunting I've done in Kentucky 1236 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 5: on eighty acres killed a couple of nice bucks, and 1237 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 5: it's just like in my mind when I picture deer hunting. Yep, 1238 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 5: it's like those days in Kentucky. 1239 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 6: We have a bunch of people chiming in in the 1240 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 6: comments about their top threes. I don't think a single 1241 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 6: person has said Kentucky. 1242 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 2: Okay, well, me and Randall, that land will get cheaper 1243 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 2: than for us. Randall there because there's less competition. Now 1244 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 2: before we do number one, I'm going to tell you 1245 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 2: my honorable mentions. Texas it's just a great state for 1246 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 2: white tails. They got the hog or other exotics that 1247 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 2: may walk by at any given moment. The entire Great Plains, 1248 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 2: the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, it's just like my favorite 1249 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 2: part of the country to hunt white tales. I'd love 1250 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 2: to have a hunting property there. It's also America's duck 1251 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 2: factory with the prairie potholes. And then Tennessee for all 1252 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 2: the same reasons I love Kentucky. Great weather, one of 1253 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 2: the earliest deer openers in the country. It's just overlooked 1254 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 2: for big Bucks. But here is my number one, Yanni, 1255 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 2: based on what you know about me? What do you 1256 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 2: think my number one state is. 1257 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 3: South Dakota. 1258 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 2: No, Yahni, you're taking two. 1259 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Judges by I judge by the fact that you've been 1260 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 1: so one track minded with your first two with white tails. 1261 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be a white tail state. Okay, 1262 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: maybe it will be Texas. 1263 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 2: My number one state is Iowa. Texas was an honorable 1264 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 2: mention though. Now a lot of things that I loved 1265 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 2: about Illinois the same for Iowa. It's a two bucks state, 1266 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 2: which I'm super jealous of. I wish Montana was that 1267 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 2: they have the third most boone and crocket whitetail entries 1268 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 2: in the country. And that's so impressive because when you 1269 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 2: consider that Iowa isn't even the top twenty states for 1270 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 2: harvesting the most deer, so they're like twenty second overall 1271 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 2: and deer harvest, but third overall in boone and crocket 1272 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 2: deer harvest. Three of the top twenty boone and crocket 1273 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 2: producing countries are in Iowa. Just like Illinois. Their land 1274 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 2: prices are outrageous, over ten thousand dollars an acre, and 1275 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 2: if I could put my land anywhere be in southern Iowa, 1276 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 2: so then it could be I could be neighbors with 1277 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 2: some of the most famous big buck killers in the world, 1278 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 2: like the Druries, the la Coski's and Bill Winki. 1279 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: Have little picnics with the guys. 1280 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 5: That would be assuming you're a resident, right, because as 1281 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 5: a non resident you might not. 1282 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 2: Every every four year, tails Randall, if I if I 1283 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 2: win the lottery, first thing I'm doing is buying a 1284 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 2: big old farm in southern Iowa. Yanni, you have to 1285 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 2: I could live in Des Moines. Yeah, like Ames, sure, 1286 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 2: I could live in Iowa. You talked me and do it. 1287 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 2: Yanni your number two. 1288 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, be crazy to own a farm there 1289 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 1: and only hunt there every six years. Be nuts. 1290 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 2: They certainly have non resident landowner permits. That's the thing, 1291 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 2: you know, I'd be guaranteed one. Maybe it's not a 1292 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 2: two bucks state anymore if you're a non resident with land, 1293 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 2: but if you're a non resident with land, you're going 1294 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 2: to get some non resident tag. Yanni your number two state, 1295 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 2: no number one, number one state. I'm sorry you're number 1296 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 2: one state. 1297 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm going with Wisconsin already have already have some land there. 1298 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't know where they rank on the number of 1299 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Boone and Crocket number one number. Okay, there you go, 1300 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: so a good reason there, Yep, A lot of reasons. 1301 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 1: I already owned some land. A lot of nostalgia there 1302 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: for me. I've been hunting there since I was ten 1303 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: or eleven years old. I would love to add to it. 1304 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: We're in what I would consider hill country. So just 1305 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 1: like you said, it hunts bigger. What else did I 1306 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: have for reasons here? 1307 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken Yan either also number one 1308 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 2: for black bear Boone and Crockett entry, so number one 1309 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 2: for black bear and white tails big old bears. 1310 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just have a lot 1311 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 1: of connection to it, and so I would just like 1312 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: to expand, you know, with what I would would own 1313 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 1: there and just really get into the the deer farm. 1314 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 2: And practically Yanni over here wants land where he lives 1315 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 2: and where he hunts. Randall your number one state. 1316 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 5: Gosh, you know, going last, I feel like all my 1317 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 5: thunder's being stolen. My number one and state is Montana, Okay, 1318 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 5: honorable mentions would be somewhere nearby in Idaho or Wyoming. 1319 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 5: Because when I think about having a piece of land. 1320 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 5: The number one thing I'd want to be able to 1321 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 5: do is go to it frequently and have a relationship 1322 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 5: with it and visit it throughout the year. So I 1323 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 5: wouldn't want to be an absentee landowner. 1324 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 3: Sure well, et cetera. Et cetera. Could either be like 1325 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 3: a cabin as a base camp. It could provide some access. 1326 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 5: To public it could be a river bottom spot where 1327 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 5: you can do some fishing and go swim the dogs 1328 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,439 Speaker 5: in the summer and then hunt white tails in the fall. 1329 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 5: But there's just you know, if I had something, i'd 1330 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 5: want to use it. So Montana preferably within three and 1331 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 5: a half hours. 1332 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Of my house. 1333 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like Yanni had said before, the reason I 1334 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 2: left any Western state off my laces. We're just blessed 1335 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 2: to live in a place and has a lot of 1336 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 2: public land, So I'm gonna I'm gonna take land some 1337 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 2: other state that doesn't. Those were our top three states 1338 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 2: that we'd like to own hunting property. And let us 1339 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 2: know in the comments if you agree or disagree, or if. 1340 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 5: You'd like to help us invest in land in any 1341 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 5: one of these high priced states, or. 1342 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 2: If you've got a sweet property in Kentucky that maybe 1343 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 2: let me come hunt. 1344 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1345 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's worth the shock. 1346 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: That's it for today's show. 1347 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 2: But before we leave here, Phil, let's go over some 1348 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 2: listener feedback. 1349 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, just to piggyback on that last one. I don't 1350 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 6: know if you guys have if you want to give 1351 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 6: us your top one. How about fishing Camp States? 1352 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 2: Oh, fishing Camp States. I don't know. Steve's is pretty 1353 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 2: convincing in Alaska. I don't know if I could argue. 1354 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, although you know he's been talking about you know, 1355 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: he calls that place fish Shack North, and I think 1356 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: he's been recently talking about fish Sack Shack South out 1357 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 1: of Venice, Louisiana, which you know, it would be a 1358 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 1: great time to drop in that we still have spots 1359 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: mails for meat eater experiences. Today is the last day 1360 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 1: to book if you want to fish with folks like 1361 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: Randall myself. Are you coming down? Won't be there, Spencer's 1362 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: not coming down, Steve's Runella is gonna be there. 1363 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 2: Maybe that's a bonus for some people that I won't 1364 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 2: be there. 1365 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 3: So now Karina and Phil will be there. 1366 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, podcasts, Yeah, we're me doing anyways, Meetia experiences. If 1367 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 1: you're looking for a good time early October, we're going 1368 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: down there where Steve is considering having fish sheck South 1369 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 1: at some point in his life for me fishing, Uh geez. 1370 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1371 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Maybe North Carolina like Outer Banks. Okay, I know that 1372 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. 1373 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I would have to say Alaska. 1374 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 5: But if that were off the table lower forty eight, 1375 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 5: I'd go north Woods of Minnesota. 1376 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 2: You know what I talked to myself out of Alaska 1377 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 2: in the last minute. I was gonna say, Minnesota. 1378 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 5: Big mosquito, guy, Yep, big mosquito. 1379 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 2: It's their state bird. 1380 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 6: And now that Karrent has made her presence known, let's 1381 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 6: see Saxton ask or says it would be cool to 1382 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 6: have segments on the show where they use the Werner 1383 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 6: Bratsler sheer test machine. 1384 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 9: I man, my man, because there are plans in the 1385 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 9: works for that. 1386 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen, Saxton. 1387 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 5: And for those of you who are unaware of what 1388 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 5: a Werner Bratzler share is, it is an instrument used 1389 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 5: to measure the toughness of. 1390 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 9: Meat right by official meat scientists. 1391 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 6: Else Phil, let's see, Steven, this is going back to 1392 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 6: Spencer's or chettiquet question, We've got a comment from a 1393 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 6: Steven Runella setting a great example. Steve says, I tell 1394 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 6: young folks that they need to set a strong precedent 1395 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 6: when starting a new relationship, even if they don't have 1396 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 6: anywhere to go, just sleep in a buddy's garage to 1397 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 6: show you your partner that you're gone a lot. What 1398 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 6: do you guys think about that? 1399 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 2: I have a feeling that's actually earnest wisdom from Steve 1400 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 2: that he would suggest you do. I maybe wouldn't. 1401 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 1: What do you think, Yanni, No, I've heard him give 1402 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 1: that advice many times, and uh yeah, it's a tricky 1403 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: one because hopefully you just are gone a lot because 1404 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: you're doing stuff and you don't have to be attached 1405 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: at the hip, at your at your with your special 1406 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 1: other per But so I guess if, like in the future, 1407 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 1: your plan on being around more than yeah. 1408 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 2: You should do what Steve says an easier solution. It's 1409 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 2: what me and Randall have done. Don't have children. There's 1410 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 2: less pressure to be at home when there's no little 1411 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 2: people there who rely on and. 1412 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 3: Take your wife hunting. 1413 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 6: That's right, that's very true. Oh hey, Nick asks if 1414 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 6: your guy, you guys are gonna do any hunting. During 1415 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 6: the Tailgate tour. 1416 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 2: Yanni was fixing to do some squirrel hunting. Randal and 1417 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 2: I are fixing to do some fishing, maybe for bass 1418 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 2: or walleye, and I am so jealous. I have heard 1419 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 2: that Clay Nukom and Brent Reeves are getting on a 1420 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 2: very special boat when they go to I think it's Tennessee. 1421 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to say who it is in case 1422 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 2: that falls apart. Let me tell you it's like a 1423 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 2: childhood dream to think about fishing with that person. I 1424 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 2: think we'll find out soon enough. 1425 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,479 Speaker 3: And we will happen. 1426 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 5: We will be in ann Arbor. We fly out a 1427 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 5: week from today, so we will be in ann Arbor 1428 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 5: next Saturday. 1429 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Football season's already started. 1430 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 2: It started last week was week zero, and tonight there 1431 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 2: are a handful of games on, including a big one 1432 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:16,719 Speaker 2: between North Dakota State and the University of Colorado, highly anticipated. Yanni, 1433 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 2: I think it's on ESPN tonight. 1434 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 5: So we will be in ann Arbor, Texas at Michigan. 1435 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,839 Speaker 5: Spencer and I will be there, will be playing some trivia, 1436 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 5: We'll be hanging out, we'll be recording trivia, and yeah, 1437 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 5: please stop buy for in the area or if you're 1438 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 5: just outside of the area and you feel like making 1439 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,680 Speaker 5: a drive, because I think we'll be having a good time. 1440 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 6: Last question for doctor Randall Daniel's asking, is there a 1441 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 6: bear on the highway? 1442 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,919 Speaker 3: Not today, it's been rough out there for the fawns. 1443 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 5: In all seriousness, it's pretty tragic comedy animals get killed 1444 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 5: on my community to work. But yeah, I haven't seen 1445 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 5: a bear since the one last week, which is good 1446 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:54,640 Speaker 5: bye me. 1447 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 2: Maybe Randall will hit one on his way home. 1448 01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 3: I'll let you know. 1449 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 2: That'd be really good content. So I don't know. Maybe 1450 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 2: don't swerve if it. 1451 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: If it happens, Randall, sure, hush, no, that's I got 1452 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 1: a new truck. 1453 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 3: I can't around with. 1454 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 2: Meat Eater radio. We'll see you guys the same time, 1455 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 2: in same place, one week from now.