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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Come Rod, just get to snap.

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Speaker 3: We'll get the game well, sweeping right.

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Speaker 1: And game one golf score.

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Speaker 4: Of Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown with three forty nine remaining in

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: He sweeps around right.

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Speaker 4: End, touchs inside a blocker and scores the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 3: good us too.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure doing pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Had some fun at least they better be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe maybe a nursing some some some headaches and

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Speaker 7: some lack of sleep and some some sore throats, and

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Speaker 7: y's that's why you play the game, baby h and

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Speaker 7: everyone there last night certainly did their part without a doubt.

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Speaker 7: As we kind of highlighted in the first hour of

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Speaker 7: the show, Matt on that call there that we just

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Speaker 7: heard to open the second hour, that, of course Kenneth

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Speaker 7: Gainwell touchdown to put the Steelers in the lead before

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Speaker 7: things really started to get wild there another likely part

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Speaker 7: of me another Ze Flowers touchdown and then the response

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Speaker 7: of Calvin Austin on that play there an outstanding seal

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Speaker 7: block on the right side of the line by Troy Faltanu,

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Speaker 7: and I think he's another one, and really the Steelers

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Speaker 7: offensive line in general. You said on Friday, the Steelers

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Speaker 7: are better in the trenches on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 7: and so often when these teams play, that's the case.

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Speaker 7: I thought the Steelers offensive line really did an excellent.

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Speaker 6: Job last night, that they were phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's the best place they've been in

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Speaker 5: collectively all year. Part of it's not just because Cook

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Speaker 5: replaced Jones, I mean because we've hat see them all

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Speaker 5: couple weeks as well. But I think that they're really

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Speaker 5: gelling together. They haven't had a lot of turnover knock

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Speaker 5: on wood, which is really important, especially for a young

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Speaker 6: I think they're really starting to get.

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Speaker 5: Their footing under them in terms of the variety of

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Speaker 5: run play as they run, it's not as much outside

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Speaker 5: zone things of that nature. But what was huge, and

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Speaker 5: you and I broke this down a lot, was we

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Speaker 5: knew or highly suspected the Ravens would take a similar

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Speaker 5: approach to defending the Steelers as the Browns, that they

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Speaker 5: would get out of their zone heavy back the man

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Speaker 5: up single.

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Speaker 6: High, and we knew they weren't as good at it.

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Speaker 7: As the Browns, especially sans Kyle Hamilton from that second half.

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Speaker 5: And the numbers were distinctly different with him without him.

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Speaker 5: But I also think Rogers are starting to feel himself too,

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Speaker 5: so I think there's more things at play than that.

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Speaker 6: But it was big.

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Speaker 7: It was like the Steelers were taking a step forward

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Speaker 7: as they were taking a step back at the same

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Speaker 7: time at the same time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you lose your best guy, obviously, no doubt

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Speaker 5: that's a problem for them.

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Speaker 6: But I also think that even.

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Speaker 5: If I don't think anyone's gonna I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: convince anyone to well, the Steelers wide receivers were really good. No,

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Speaker 5: they're playing with subpar unit.

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Speaker 3: They were better than they were in Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: They were better they were in Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: And Mike my key here was going back to the

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Speaker 5: and done, I get the ball out because Cleveland's all

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Speaker 5: over me. I mean, the pass rush difference between these

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Speaker 5: defenses is night and day. I mean, Cleveland's is the

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Speaker 5: of But we'll get to that.

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Speaker 6: We jump off that bridge. We when we come to it.

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Speaker 5: But the fact that Rogers could could survey the scene

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Speaker 5: a little bit more, which is a mile in this league,

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Speaker 5: receivers are going to get open, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 5: and they still struggled. There was a lot of tight

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Speaker 5: with here. But if you give Rogers time to go

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Speaker 5: through it, professional receivers are going to pop open. Yes,

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Speaker 5: two point seven seconds is and oppose to two point one.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely feeling had a big grab or.

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Speaker 5: Two mvs made that catch behind them.

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Speaker 3: Catch behind him on what he does.

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Speaker 7: And you know, there were even some missed opportunities out

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Speaker 7: still able to progressively get better and better as the

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Speaker 7: lot of that lately where the second half the offense

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Speaker 3: I mean they they did a good run game.

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Speaker 6: It's better the protection gets better.

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Speaker 7: Did a good job of that against the Dolphins. They

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Speaker 7: the Ravens in Baltimore and.

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Speaker 5: Their physical come at you, you know, offensively too. And

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Speaker 5: I mean again you mentioned Fraser's quote, you know that

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Speaker 3: Because those guys want to be physical.

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Speaker 7: They they kind of they dictate the flow. And then

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Speaker 7: Jalen Warren for I'm gonna break some news here, Matt

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Speaker 7: but he's not built like Derrick Henry. No, but he

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Speaker 5: I mean, he thought he was phenomenal bring down and

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Speaker 5: I still think he's under rage.

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Speaker 3: Junkyard Dog, I completely agree.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think he's one of the Steelers' best

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's Bejon. I mean, there's.

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Speaker 7: Right, all the big name household running backs you take

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Speaker 3: He's at the top of the list of the next group.

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Speaker 5: And he does everything so well. I mean, he'd a

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Speaker 5: His body type works to his advantage. Rob mentioned this,

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Speaker 6: Nause He's a goal line back. That's not really who

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Speaker 5: But they might need to reexam in that, yeah, because

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Speaker 5: I don't think he has any weaknesses in that regard.

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Speaker 7: And let's uh, let's let's let's let's just run behind

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's not.

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Speaker 5: Uh, it's not cute, stuffy.

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Speaker 7: Let's not get cute out there and try and pitch

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Speaker 7: it into open space and make Kenneth gain Well dance

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Speaker 3: I've seen them do it before, but I don't want

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Speaker 3: them to have to do it. And and the tight

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Speaker 3: the tight windows. There of a situation.

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Speaker 5: Where maybe you're getting a little too cute here, guys

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Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks, like when the tush push

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Speaker 3: To keep teams honest.

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Speaker 6: But there's times where it's like, let's just muscle these dudes,

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Speaker 3: Because you got the muscle, you've got the muscle to

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Speaker 7: And that that played out over the course of of

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Speaker 7: took everybody. It took every single person putting their hand

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Speaker 7: in that pile. Matt logan Lee played one defensive snap

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Speaker 7: One snap and he gets his hand on a football

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Speaker 7: and the lexa pass intended for Derrick Henry where it

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Speaker 7: looked like Derrick Henry had some room. I'm kind of

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Speaker 7: watching it here now. I mean, if Henry would have

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Speaker 7: I mean it's him a lead blocker and Alex Highsmith

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Speaker 7: and a whole lot of green grass.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's how they drew the players.

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Speaker 3: Exactly how they drew the playoff.

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Speaker 7: Loganly doesn't get his hand on that one late in

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Speaker 7: the third quarter on what was a second and long

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Speaker 7: for Baltimore, all of a sudden that becomes either a

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Speaker 7: first down or a third in short, completely change the

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Speaker 7: tone of that drive. That's what it was. That type

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Speaker 7: of effort from everybody involved, and man did they need it.

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Speaker 5: And gave Logan Le's another good example. But Rob briefly

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Speaker 5: wrote it, brought it up while we had him on

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Speaker 5: that a lot of guys you weren't really counting on

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Speaker 5: have really contributed over the course of the year. Many

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Speaker 5: out of training camp, deep into the season. You know,

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Speaker 5: Dugger and those type of dude like they've continually churned

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Speaker 5: the balls. Samuel Junior, Yeah, you know, like, hey, Slay,

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Speaker 5: you know, if you're not super interested in playing, we're

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Speaker 6: You know that type of thing. It's easier said than done.

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Speaker 5: You know that they've found a lot of a lot

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Speaker 5: the team a long time, but he was here because

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Speaker 5: not because the older brother, but he was here because

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Speaker 5: he's a great special teamer. And now he's your lead

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Speaker 5: blocking fullback. All of a sudden, he's taking snaps and like,

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Speaker 5: they've a lot of guys that can just get you

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Speaker 7: Yes, they do, on both sides of the ball and

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Speaker 7: special teams. I thought Ben Scronick was great on special

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Speaker 7: big tackles in space that you know, he like killer.

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Speaker 5: Brew's one of the best special teams in the league,

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Speaker 5: and you don't know right early in the season.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought there was a couple of

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Speaker 7: times where it's like Scronic in the in the returner

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Speaker 7: in open space and he makes the tackle that you know,

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Speaker 7: keeps a three yard, four yard, five yard punt return

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Speaker 5: And I think some of it's obvious, but I don't

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Speaker 5: think the Steelers won the special teams battle.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday. No, I mean, I know they.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the last play was waited.

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Speaker 5: The last place was great, but Boz's extra punting wasn't great.

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Speaker 6: Punting wasn't great.

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Speaker 7: I'd be another thing like if we were in your

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Speaker 7: dissecting a loss would be like you lot of lost

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Speaker 7: a lot of field position on the punts.

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Speaker 5: And not to mention the last kickoff was I mean

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Speaker 6: And I thought their punter was excellent. He had or

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Speaker 7: In the Books, the twenty five twenty six NFL regular

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Speaker 6: It's also Black Monday, by the way, folks.

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Speaker 7: The Carolina Panthers have by far, by far the worst

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Speaker 5: Manning at the end of his career type guys that

446
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Speaker 5: could barely throw. I don't know that the league is

447
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Speaker 5: set up that way. But it's not like these teams,

448
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Speaker 5: including Houston, have nothing on offense, you know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they don't have to win thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Nine every week, No, they do not.

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Speaker 6: What's Houston's odds you saw have them up there.

452
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Speaker 3: They're just behind them. They're just behind the Bills.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So Seahawks one, Rams two, Broncos three, Patriots for

454
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Speaker 7: Eagles five, Buffalo six. Houston and Jacksonville are tied for

455
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Speaker 7: seventh best odds at thirteen to one.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I mean Jacksonville's hosting the game and playing really well.

457
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Speaker 5: I'm a little shocked there that low, But I think

458
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Speaker 5: some of it's also, what have you done the playoffs lately?

459
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Speaker 5: You know, New England, Denver, you know Jacksonville. These teams

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Speaker 5: are Chicago, you mentioned them.

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Speaker 6: They're yeah, they're right. They don't have playoffs? You know

462
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Speaker 6: success lately?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, the Bears are right behind the Jags.

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Speaker 7: Then the Packers, then the Chargers, Niners, Steelers, Panthers. Okay,

465
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Speaker 7: Other than that, Matt, what else around the league? Hey,

466
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Speaker 7: Miles Garrett, that's a big deal. Set the sack record.

467
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Speaker 7: Did Joe Burrow pull a Brett Farv and take a dive?

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. I know some disagree. Tyler's over

469
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Speaker 5: there making faces at me and things. I ain't see him.

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Speaker 7: Tyler is at times, I think I'm a Steelers homer,

471
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Speaker 7: but Tyler is like he sleeps in his terrible towel

472
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Speaker 7: blanket every night.

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Speaker 5: I guess some of Myles Garrett Homer, though apparently you are.

474
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Speaker 7: I'm in between both of TV TV's a Homer honk,

475
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Speaker 7: you're a Miles Garrett honk. I'm somewhere reasonable in between.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't how much time did you watch it?

477
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Speaker 5: But he smoked Orlando Brown, and maybe Burrow could have

478
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Speaker 5: fought more for it, but I think he knew inevitably

479
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Speaker 5: he was a dry. Why do I want to.

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Speaker 6: Get crushed by this dude.

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Speaker 5: I'm just going down And I don't know that if

482
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Speaker 5: that was in week two, I don't think anybody be like, oh,

483
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Speaker 5: Borrow took a dive. That's that's a good point that

484
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Speaker 5: I don't think he took a dive.

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Speaker 3: Everyone like you know how the far play by the way,

486
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Speaker 3: he took a dive.

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Speaker 6: The far was a.

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Speaker 5: Fake handoff roll out in the slide. I mean like

489
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Speaker 5: that was taking a die.

490
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Speaker 7: That was yes, that was about that was about his

491
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Speaker 7: script that his script that has been.

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Speaker 5: TJ didn't have those by the way, No, he did not.

493
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Speaker 5: And he actually robbed at half a sack if you.

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Speaker 3: Really and I saw a lot of people putting that out.

495
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Speaker 3: A lot of people also put h like TJ.

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Speaker 7: People were putting the amount of snaps like Miles Garrett

497
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Speaker 7: did it in one hundred and fifty less snaps than TJ. Okay, Well,

498
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Speaker 7: a lot of TJ snaps were in coverage, so his

499
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Speaker 7: true pass Russia.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure it's close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with all due respect to TJ.

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Speaker 7: I don't feel the need to like pooh pooh Miles

503
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Speaker 7: Garrett or pump up TJ.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a heck of an accomplishment by Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's one that happened on a five win

506
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Speaker 7: football team that is not that bad. It wasn't like

507
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Speaker 7: when Strahan did it against against the against the Packers.

508
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Speaker 7: It wasn't like when TJ did it against the Ravens. Right,

509
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Speaker 7: let them, let them have it, hot high highlight, highlight of.

510
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Speaker 3: The downs twenty first century. Let him have it.

511
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and still game is perfect example. But it wasn't

512
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Speaker 5: easy down the home stretch for him either. No, I

513
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Speaker 5: mean they could go through a gauntlet to get there.

514
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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

515
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Speaker 7: Matt JJ McCarthy exits. The Vikings went over the Packers

516
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Speaker 7: with another injury. Could that be the nail of his coffin.

517
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Speaker 5: I haven't heard since because I I pooh poohed a

518
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Speaker 5: lot of these injuries because there were so many menials games,

519
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Speaker 5: you know, like if this was a playoff game with

520
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Speaker 5: Mark McCarthy have finished tough to value. I mean, I

521
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Speaker 5: found it interesting that Josh Allen's gonna play, and we

522
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Speaker 5: talked a bunch about that going in. Like with his foot,

523
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Speaker 5: I would never play him once and I didn't realize

524
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Speaker 5: he has a consecutive game thing going takes one snap,

525
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Speaker 5: Trubisky comes in and just they steam rolls. Get As

526
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Speaker 5: much as I thought the Raiders were worse in the league,

527
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Speaker 5: Jets made a strong case down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 7: I want your thoughts on two different rookie quarterbacks that

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Speaker 7: we saw in action that I thought both looked pretty good.

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Speaker 7: The first Jackson Dart, the second Riley Leonard. Let's start

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Speaker 7: with Dart.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll do more homework on these guys. But

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Speaker 5: I'm not a huge Dark believer, But I think it's

535
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Speaker 5: crazy to think that even.

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Speaker 3: With the Giants earn a year or two.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you stick with.

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Speaker 7: I think you and I are in lockstep on I'm

539
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Speaker 7: another receiver I'm not a big Dark believer, but I

540
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Speaker 7: need to see he's earned twenty twenty six to be

541
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Speaker 7: the guy there, build around him and see how it goes.

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Speaker 5: Less Johnny Knoxville needs to be in the in the description,

543
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Speaker 5: but guys have done that throughout their career. They learned

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Speaker 5: to protect themselves a little better. Caleb Williams is a

545
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Speaker 5: good example in terms of taking sacks compared to last year.

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Speaker 5: I would roll with it. And it's not like this

547
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Speaker 5: class is just dripping with quarterbacks. It's like, oh, we

548
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Speaker 5: could take Daniels may or Caleb Williams. That might be different. Jackson, Sorry,

549
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Speaker 5: you're out. Leonard's a tough one. Houston's defense pretty darn good.

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Speaker 3: That's why. That's what I was impressed by.

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Speaker 7: I thought, considering the defense he was going up against

552
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Speaker 7: and a Texans team that still needed to win that game,

553
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Speaker 7: or trying to win that game, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't think you'd get this answer, but it would be

555
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Speaker 5: lovely to know. And I'm not saying the Philip Rivers

556
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Speaker 5: things was a bad idea because they were trying to

557
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Speaker 5: save their season, but it'd been nice to have Riley

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Speaker 5: Leonard for like all three of those games to say, really, evaluate,

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Speaker 5: can he be there? Can he be my starter for

560
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Speaker 5: the first month while Daniel Jones recovers Because Daniel Jones

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Speaker 5: a free agent, you know, like everyone's acting like he's

562
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Speaker 5: going back to Indie and he might, they might have

563
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Speaker 5: a handshake deal in place, but I don't think he's

564
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Speaker 5: very start the year.

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Speaker 6: So what do you do about that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it'd be great if Leonard could at least

567
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Speaker 5: hand it to Jonathan Taylor the first month of the season.

568
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Speaker 3: Or whatever till you get to October type thing.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying he can't,

570
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Speaker 6: but we got some evidence that be okay.

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Speaker 7: You know, maybe it's not as because the quarterback situation

572
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Speaker 7: was looking real dire for the Colts with no first round.

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Speaker 6: Pick and they don't have a lot of options.

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Speaker 3: But maybe Riley Leonard is a decent good enough for.

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Speaker 7: Matt the I don't know if anybody other than Steeler Nation,

576
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Speaker 7: I don't know if there's many fan bases happier on

577
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Speaker 7: this Monday morning than the Kansas City Chiefs as they

578
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Speaker 7: fall to the Raiders. Raiders still, Raiders still keep the

579
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Speaker 7: top overall picks.

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Speaker 3: That window that works for them works for them to

581
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Speaker 3: but the chief the Chiefs now are picking like seventh.

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Speaker 6: I think it is almost feels unfair.

583
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Speaker 3: It almost feels unfair.

584
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Pete Carroll another one of those Black Monday coaches.

585
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Speaker 5: Since he's picking pretty high now too. You know, like

586
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Speaker 5: a couple of these teams that have big time.

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Speaker 7: Kenny Picket started and got pulled for Aidan O'Connell.

588
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Speaker 3: I mean it just we saw a whole bunch of backups.

589
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Speaker 6: Milton and McKee and on and on and on.

590
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Speaker 5: But I paid less attention to the rest of the

591
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Speaker 5: league than any other week, honestly.

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Speaker 3: I I I'm with you on that, and I had

593
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Speaker 3: it on.

594
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Speaker 6: I watched the red zone.

595
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Speaker 5: I paid attention, but there was it's a tough week

596
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Speaker 5: to evaluate.

597
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Speaker 7: You're kind of just looking for individual players and things

598
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Speaker 7: like that at that point.

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Speaker 5: And not to mention, I was on the pregame show

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Speaker 5: Tom for two hours during you know, a while all

601
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Speaker 5: the games were going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there we have it.

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Speaker 5: You're yeah, we start talking about play up matchups and

604
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Speaker 5: things like that.

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Speaker 6: As the week goes on.

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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely absolutely. Uh Seahawks first round by.

607
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Speaker 6: Yeah for them, What a season they've had.

608
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Speaker 7: What a season they've had. This was the one I

609
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Speaker 7: wanted to ask you before we went to break. So

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Speaker 7: Bears bump up, Eagles rested everybody lost to the Commanders

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Speaker 7: that knocked them from the two seed down to the

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Speaker 7: three seed. Bears up to the two seed. They get

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Speaker 7: the Packers, which the league loves, by the way.

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Speaker 5: And Bears Pack.

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Speaker 7: Bears Packers in Chicago in the postseason. For the Eagles, though,

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Speaker 7: are they gonna rue that opportunity? I mean, the Ers

617
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Speaker 7: have their issues too, but man, the Packers other other

618
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Speaker 7: than the Panthers, the Packers feel like the team that

619
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Speaker 7: you would want to play most right now.

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Speaker 6: I agree. I think they're eight.

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Speaker 3: I know we're limp into the finish line.

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Speaker 5: We're on Nation Radio, but Packers would be my second

623
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Speaker 5: longest off to win.

624
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Speaker 6: Not the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you on that, especially because they have to

626
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Speaker 5: go on the road too, and they're not They're not

627
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Speaker 5: going to host a home game no matter what.

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Speaker 6: I think, Packers are in trouble.

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Speaker 5: That I bet that was a tough call for the

630
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Speaker 5: Eagle staff, you know, because I'm sure hurts Barkley, you know,

631
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Speaker 5: like it could have rushed Lane Johnson back.

632
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Speaker 6: I'm sure theres.

633
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Speaker 7: Played a lot of football the last few yearly appreciated.

634
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Speaker 7: They've played a lot of the last three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 5: Right, That's that's the matters for the Chiefs and Eagles

636
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Speaker 5: and all those extra games that are the hardest games

637
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Speaker 5: of the year. By the way, they're not going to

638
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Speaker 5: just you know, steamroll anybody.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: I think it's very possible that Seattle loses a game

641
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Speaker 5: and the Eagles will be like, we could have hosted

642
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Speaker 5: the NFC championship and now we've got.

643
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Speaker 6: To go to Chicago.

644
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Speaker 5: That's when it really the ramifications might kick in, and

645
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Speaker 5: you'd much rather play the Packers than the Niners.

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Speaker 3: I think.

647
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Speaker 1: So.

648
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Speaker 7: The Niners have their issues, they're banged up to but

649
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Speaker 7: they're not limping to the finish.

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Speaker 5: Line like the Packers, and they've had postseason success.

651
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Speaker 3: Yes, that group knows what it takes to win that

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Speaker 3: time of year.

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Speaker 6: The Packers are a joke.

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Speaker 7: But although I will say in the last handful of years,

655
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Speaker 7: there's been some really good Niners Eagles postseason games, and

656
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Speaker 7: this could be kind of another check that feels like

657
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Speaker 7: the one of those you know a lot of times

658
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Speaker 7: there's like temporary rivalries like the Colts and the Patriots

659
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Speaker 7: for those handful of years, Like Niners Eagles kind of

660
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Speaker 7: feels like a little temporary rivalry here over the last

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Speaker 7: five or six years.

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Speaker 6: They both come in first place a lot, so they

663
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Speaker 6: played a lot.

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Speaker 7: Of They've played a lot of important games against each

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Speaker 7: other in the regular season and postseason.

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Speaker 3: But that was, Yeah, that was the one that I

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Speaker 3: wanted to ask you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's one of the teams that you

669
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Speaker 5: could go either way on.

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Speaker 6: Was that the right choice or not?

671
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Speaker 7: I and you know how they react to these things

672
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Speaker 7: in Philadelphia, But I know Sirian's getting crushed for that.

673
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Speaker 6: Oh you know my results on this.

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Speaker 5: I mean this goes back to before the Browns game

675
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Speaker 5: and people would ask us all the time, should the

676
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Speaker 5: Steelers rest in this one and this one? And blah

677
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. I'm like, there's it's a no win

678
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Speaker 5: situation for the coach, no.

679
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Speaker 7: Finds super Bowl again. Then everyone will be like, oh,

680
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 7: but they will say.

681
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Speaker 6: That they will wait arrest them in week eight.

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Speaker 3: You remember four weeks ago when we said he was

683
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Speaker 3: an idiot, he was actually right.

684
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Speaker 6: It'll only come up if it goes wrong.

685
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Speaker 7: Correct, which is unfortunately that's life as a coach in

686
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Speaker 7: professional sports in a lot of ways.

687
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Speaker 6: That's why they're well compensated.

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Speaker 3: They are, They certainly are. Let's get to our last break.

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Speaker 7: We'll cross some te's dot, some eyes, some vinyl thoughts

690
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Speaker 7: from the Steelers triumphant night over the Ravens and across

691
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Speaker 7: the league as well. When we return Westhuuler Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 7: It is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio on a

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Speaker 7: Steelers audio network.

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Speaker 1: Your tune's about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: Jackson, back to pass, rot, cut it down, it picked up,

697
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Speaker 4: picked off by TJ want, got it down by high

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Speaker 4: spind and what somehow fun on the deflection.

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Speaker 3: And this it's coming.

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Speaker 7: That's another one of those massive plays in a laundry

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Speaker 7: list of key moments in this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Alex high Smith.

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Speaker 5: Has been ten biggest plays. You could come up with ten,

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Speaker 5: more than in most games.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you could come up with probably at

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Speaker 7: least six or seven in those last couple of sequences alone. Yes,

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Speaker 7: and then all the other stuff that happened in the

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Speaker 7: in the first half and in the and in the

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Speaker 7: third quarter.

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Speaker 5: There my apologies to back to back shows, But if

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Speaker 5: the Steelers lose that game, I might have said this

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Speaker 5: in the first segment. Boy would be talking about, Man,

713
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Speaker 5: they missed that fourth and short when they went into

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Speaker 5: the yep, not even want the end of the half,

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Speaker 5: they first.

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Speaker 3: And goal and plus territory.

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Speaker 5: Bos mister field goal. You know those Tuesday flowers. You'd

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Speaker 5: harp on just a couple of plays, and I'm so

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Speaker 5: glad we're not, you know, because I do think the

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Speaker 5: better team won.

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Speaker 3: I am very glad.

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Speaker 5: The Ravens may plays, oh they Lamar may play.

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Speaker 6: You know, Henry may play.

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Speaker 3: Look at this again.

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Speaker 7: These are the type of things that we would be

726
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Speaker 7: pulling our hair out about if you ended up losing that.

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Speaker 7: At the end of the first quarter, one hundred and

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Speaker 7: twenty five yards for Baltimore, twenty one for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you at the start of the show.

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Speaker 7: I thought Derek Henry had seventy nine yards in the

731
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Speaker 7: first half, and you were like, no, it was one

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Speaker 7: to eleven.

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Speaker 3: It was Derek Carrier had seventy nine yards in the

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Speaker 3: first quarter.

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Speaker 7: He adds up, Matt, he had ten carries for seventy

736
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Speaker 7: nine yards in the first quarter and then got ten

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Speaker 7: carries the rest of the game.

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Speaker 5: The rest of the game, right, And I do think

739
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Speaker 5: the Steelers d had something to do with that, and

740
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Speaker 5: they had a lot of big bodies on the field.

741
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Speaker 5: But we knew that, I'm like, this was not shocking.

742
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Speaker 5: We knew the Ravens are gonna put out Ricard and

743
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Speaker 5: Cohler and all their big bodies, and Steelers had a

744
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Speaker 5: lot of snaps with that extra linebacker. We talked about

745
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Speaker 5: whether it's off the ball or an edge guy. So

746
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Speaker 5: you had the lead and that's your biggest dog. And

747
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 5: Lamar made plays, but he wasn't himself. Lamar had zero scrambles.

748
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Speaker 3: He had a couple of design.

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Speaker 5: Zero scrambles in that game. And there was a play

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Speaker 5: I thought was real telling. I forget the exact part,

751
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Speaker 5: but it was in the second half where he's out

752
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Speaker 5: on the left side and doesn't even try. I mean

753
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Speaker 5: he's hesitating to throw it behind the line of scrimmag

754
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Speaker 5: He's hesitating.

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Speaker 6: Like old Lamar had been like road runner out of bounds.

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Speaker 7: First that last drive sequence with herbig too yeah, where

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Speaker 7: normally he was one yeah yeah, is that the one

758
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Speaker 7: you were yeah? And he does he does a little

759
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Speaker 7: spinner rama to get rid of the ball to it.

760
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Speaker 7: But in the past, like Lamar, were put the jets

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Speaker 7: on and he's.

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Speaker 6: Gone, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 5: So he made some a couple really really impressive plays,

764
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Speaker 5: but it was not the best version of him either. No,

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Speaker 5: But but thus give the ball to Henry we all expected,

766
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Speaker 5: and I'm I'm sure there's some question of what's going

767
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Speaker 5: on with Baltimore right now.

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Speaker 6: That's something that that's probably the top of it.

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Speaker 5: Not like, hey, that's kickers, we got to Menia new

770
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Speaker 5: kick or whatever. That stuff happens. But you could got

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Speaker 5: yourself maybe in a better position by feeding the big guy.

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Speaker 7: Oh I think one that if if that, if if

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Speaker 7: our show was you know, based out of based out

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Speaker 7: of Baltimore and covered in Old Bay here today, that

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Speaker 7: would I think would have been the first thing we

776
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Speaker 7: were talking about. Was you went away that you know,

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Speaker 7: he just had thirty six carries last week at Lambeau.

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Speaker 6: That was the best thing your teammate going.

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Speaker 3: And he gets ten carries after the first quarter last night.

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Speaker 6: After ripping the apartment.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. And what's crazy too, that number was

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Speaker 3: ten for seventy nine. If the.

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Speaker 7: If the Zay Flowers personal foul penalty on Cam Hayward

784
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Speaker 7: doesn't happen on that first play, that number is even bigger.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's a good point, right because that he earned it.

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Speaker 7: That ended up being like a twenty six yard gain

787
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Speaker 7: instead of a forty one day or whatever it was.

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Speaker 7: So so let's let's let's go. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 7: this is the end of the show. We got like

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Speaker 7: ten minutes left here. If you are the owner of

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Speaker 7: the Baltimore Rave and it's a tough one, are you

792
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Speaker 7: waking up today thinking all right, I've seen this same

793
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Speaker 7: script for a few years. We've been so talented, we've

794
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Speaker 7: had an MVP at quarterback, and it's the same not

795
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 7: being able to get it done in these close games

796
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Speaker 7: where it feels like in a lot it's like in

797
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Speaker 7: all these games almost it feels like the Ravens have

798
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Speaker 7: a lead and then get away from what got them there.

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Speaker 5: That's really it's very true this year, but it's been

800
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Speaker 5: year after year with the Ravens squandering leads more than

801
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Speaker 5: most top teams or any top team, sometimes at the

802
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Speaker 5: most crucial moments, playoffs, et cetera. I don't know, I mean,

803
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Speaker 5: because it's not much different than if the Steelers lost

804
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Speaker 5: and we had this Tomlin conversation. I mean, like massively

805
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Speaker 5: successful organization, massively successful.

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Speaker 7: I think it's even a little bit more like exacerbated

807
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Speaker 7: on their end though, Yeah, because they've had.

808
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Speaker 5: I always think they've been a level ahead of the

809
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Speaker 5: Steelers for the last couple of years. They've had a

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Speaker 5: multi time win a playoff game, you know, right, Yes,

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Speaker 5: the quarterback. It's a lot different than Fields and Trubisky.

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Speaker 7: I mean, they've won some playoff games in the last

813
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Speaker 7: handful of years. They went to an AFC championship. They've

814
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Speaker 7: had thirteen fourteen win seasons, so the expectations are a

815
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Speaker 7: little bit greater.

816
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Speaker 5: It is like, what if Buffalo loses in the first round?

817
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Speaker 6: Is it the same?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

819
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Speaker 6: I mean I get it. These are all time great quarterbacks.

820
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Speaker 7: And I might sound like the Homer honk here now too. Yeah,

821
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Speaker 7: because Mike Tomlin's part of the talent evaluation and procurement

822
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 7: process for the Steelers. But I'm Grayton, Sean McDermott and

823
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 7: John Harbaugh a little bit on a tougher scale than

824
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Speaker 7: I am Mike Toland because of their quarterbacks. That's a thing,

825
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 7: and I know Mike Tomlin again is involved in the

826
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Speaker 7: process of selecting the Steelers quarterback, right. You know, whether

827
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Speaker 7: it was Kenny, whether it was Mitch, whether it was Ross,

828
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Speaker 7: whether it was Fields, whether it was Rogers. Make no mistake,

829
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Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin is a major factor, maybe the biggest factor

830
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Speaker 7: in those conversations.

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Speaker 3: But he ain't got Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 6: That's the thing. He isn't the secret weapon. He doesn't

833
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Speaker 6: of the superhuman. Now. I was going to look at

834
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Speaker 6: it from.

835
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Speaker 5: The other direction that I fault the front office, but

836
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 5: the head coaches in Buffalo and Baltimore certainly involved a

837
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Speaker 5: team building too. I mean, the reason that Baltimore and

838
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Speaker 5: Buffalo have not won a Super Bowl is not Lamar

839
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Speaker 5: or Allen.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that at all, especially in Buffalo, especially.

841
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Speaker 6: In Buffalo, Like you can't tell, I mean, those guys

842
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 6: can't win the big one. Blah blah blah.

843
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 7: Josh Allen's playoff numbers are the best, maybe the best

844
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Speaker 7: in league history. If you take away the wins and

845
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 7: losses and just look at the numbers on a per

846
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Speaker 7: game basis, he is or just watch a tape.

847
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Speaker 3: Watch the tape and Lamar.

848
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Speaker 5: Is awesome too, you know. I mean, I mean again,

849
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Speaker 5: these are the m vps. They were neck and neck

850
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 5: a year ago. I have no questions about them.

851
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: What I worry.

852
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 5: About is, I mean the bills. Neither one of these

853
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 5: teams rosters is as good as people think, and they're

854
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: gonna have tough offseasons, especially if we just stick with Baltimore.

855
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 5: Linder Baum's a free agent and the rest of the

856
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 5: O line isn't very good.

857
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: His extension big money kicks in point.

858
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 5: Their pass rush is poor, not their fault, but they

859
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 5: gave Matabuque big money and he may.

860
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 6: Never play again or be the same.

861
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Speaker 3: They've also got to make a decision Flowers.

862
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Henry's great, but all of a sudden, their skill

863
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 5: guys are a little old in terms of like andrews Henry,

864
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 5: you know, like they need some other playmaker, whether it's

865
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 5: a scatback or a second receiver.

866
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Speaker 6: Bateman's kind of been a wha.

867
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Speaker 7: They could use the Kenneth Gainwell type, Yeah, they could.

868
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Speaker 7: They don't get any ideas Baltimore.

869
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they don't have a ton of resources, you know,

870
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 5: So it's I'm not there yet, but I could see

871
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 5: the window closing or slamming shut. But the fact they

872
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 5: have Lamar keeps it open. I mean what Burrows say,

873
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 5: like along as the window open as long as I'm here,

874
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: as long as I'm here, which I love and I

875
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 5: think is super cool. But is their window open just

876
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: because he's there? I mean they haven't team built around

877
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 5: him very well.

878
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Speaker 7: All right, So who's and I guess to be fair,

879
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 7: we need to wait and see how it plays out

880
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 7: with Yeah, yeah, who's Who's off season ahead? Would you

881
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 7: rather have Bengals, Ravens or Bills? I mean, Bills is

882
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 7: the obvious answer, But so maybe of the Ravens or

883
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 7: the Bengals. Maybe that's an oxymoron.

884
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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know who is the best roster.

885
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 5: If we take quarterback out of the equation, they're not equal,

886
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 5: but all three quarterbacks are at least on the same tier.

887
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: You know, like the Browns might have a better roster

888
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: than both of those teams if you take quarters.

889
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 5: Good not to mention they got all the early picks,

890
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: and you know they have a lot more resources they do,

891
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 5: they just don't have the quarterback. I don't know. I mean,

892
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 5: maybe even throw the Chiefs in there too. I mean

893
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 5: of the four superpower quarterbacks. Now, Allen could still win

894
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 5: the whole thing, and then everything was great, but.

895
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 7: Then that changes everything and gets a lifetime contract, and yeah.

896
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 5: Sure, but all those teams have a lot of big

897
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 5: picture concerns other than quarterback.

898
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I did want to make sure and mentioned Matt.

899
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 7: It was pretty funny. We got a bunch of tweets.

900
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 7: B Wiggs tweeted us, Brad tweeted us, Chris tweeted us,

901
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 7: Steele Curtin tweeted us. I'm trying to run through the

902
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 7: full gam bit here. Frank tweeted us. A couple at

903
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 7: least seven or eight people tweeted us and said that

904
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 7: we absolutely both have to pick the Houston Texas to

905
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 7: win on Monday night. Yeah, listen, we know what we're

906
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 7: doing here, all right, we know what we're doing here.

907
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 6: It's funny. The last minute of the pregame show, r.

908
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 5: J was the other one who tweeted us that Tom

909
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 5: picked the Steelers will win twenty seventeen. I picked the

910
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 5: Steers will lose twenty seventeen. And we went through all

911
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 5: the reasons and blah blah blah, and I kind of

912
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 5: set at the end I'm like, don't tell anybody. Usually

913
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 5: when I pick against them, they win.

914
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: I heard you say, because we have it on in

915
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: the booth.

916
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 7: Okay, so you know we can kind of follow along

917
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 7: with the timeline and everything and just what you guys

918
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 7: are talking about. Yeah, that was funny. Listen, it's I

919
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 7: will lean it. I'll tell you this right now. I'm

920
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 7: gonna pick Houston, all right, I'll tell you this right now.

921
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 6: I think they're the better team.

922
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: I'm doing my part.

923
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I think if that that's gonna propel

924
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 5: the Steelers with victory, I might have to do it too.

925
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: We will.

926
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a fun game to break down too.

927
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 5: And this one still is done from resonating with me,

928
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 5: you know.

929
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 7: Oh well, we'll have more on this tomorrow. I'm gonna

930
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 7: go home and I'm gonna rewatch tonight. I'm actually I'm

931
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 7: always excited to rewatch, but especially tonight because there's no

932
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 7: Monday night football game or.

933
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, no Thursday night. There's a Monday night. It's a

934
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 6: weird week.

935
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 7: There's not like something else to take my attention tonight.

936
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 7: And it's gonna be a fun week, Matt because oh yeah,

937
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 7: Thursday Friday, we have college football playoffs semi finals, and

938
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 7: then Saturdays.

939
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 6: There is something around campus before those. I I would think.

940
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Thursday will do it.

941
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 7: Not our typical like beefy, beefy, ten minutes on Thursday

942
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 7: talking about those games.

943
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 6: Prospects to watch maybe or maybething like that.

944
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 7: Maybe six minutes Thursday and six minutes Friday, you know,

945
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 7: on the on the games five six minutes.

946
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 6: Saturday, play Chambliss a little bit, maybe, Yeah.

947
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 7: Some of the other prospects, well, all there's very very interesting,

948
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 7: you know, court, all four of these quarterbacks could factor

949
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 7: into the Steelers equation this year or next year.

950
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 5: And I get the impression too, like even like Samson

951
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 5: with Alabama, he has a decision to make still and

952
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 5: there's movement and who's going where, and so there's a

953
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 5: lot of college stuff to discuss.

954
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 7: Got uh got that on Thursday and Friday, and then

955
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 7: of course Saturday Sunday NFL playoff games all day wild

956
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 7: Card Round and then we'll be waiting all day for

957
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 7: Monday night. Which uh again, like I said to you

958
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 7: when when that was first floated as the possibility, when

959
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 7: like when I got to the stadium last night, Yeah,

960
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 7: there was like some chatter of like Winter's.

961
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: Gonna get Monday Night, and I'm like no, I'm like, one,

962
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: it's the Steelers. They're not gonna put the Steelers on.

963
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 7: That's the throwaway game that they put on Monday nights. Yeah,

964
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 7: I mean, they're not gonna put the Steelers on Monday Night.

965
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 6: Houston usually gets a bad time.

966
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 7: Houston is on Saturday. It's like their birthright. He that

967
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 7: the Texans are on Saturday. But now I'm coming up

968
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 7: to it a little bit.

969
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 5: The atmosphere, you know, like that doesn't short your own

970
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: rest on any way, actually gain rest.

971
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Speaker 6: And they pretty good record at home on Monday Night,

972
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 6: Yes they do.

973
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 7: Hey, the playoff streak has not gone in the Steelers way.

974
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 7: The Monday Night football streak has gone in the Steelers way.

975
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, the.

976
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: Unstoppable force meets the immovable object.

977
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 6: It should be fun.

978
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 7: A week from today, a little over seven days from

979
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 7: right now, it's gonna be a lot of fun.

980
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 3: It's going to be a lot of fun this week

981
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: as we'll get geared up for it. Yes as well.

982
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: Oh it sure was.

983
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 7: Again, like I said, like that's that's why you and

984
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 7: I wanted to get into these types of careers. That's

985
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 7: why if you go to the games, that's why you

986
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 7: show up and buy the gear and put in the

987
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 7: miles and the money, and you sit through some of

988
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 7: the disappointing losses and performances for games like that and

989
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 7: nights like that. It was a lot of fun and

990
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 7: it'll go in the time capsule forever no matter what

991
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 7: happens next week. It does right that last night goes

992
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 7: in the time capsule forever again.

993
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 5: Episode There's many times you said the show that was

994
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: a pretty extreme fiction to write to sell your editors

995
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 5: on Carsese.

996
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 7: I don't know if Scorsese would would have written that

997
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 7: into the depotted, you know, but the Steelers fans did

998
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 7: a great job of affecting the environment last night, and

999
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 7: I know they'll do a good job again On Monday

1000
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 7: Tomorrow on the show, we'll catch up with Chris Adamski,

1001
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 7: we'll get into our Tuesday rewind as Matt and I

1002
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 7: have some final thoughts from this one, and we'll take

1003
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Speaker 7: more looks at the moving and shaking of the NFL

1004
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 7: coaching carousel around the National Football League. Big thanks to

1005
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 7: Rob King for joining us today, Nathan for producing on

1006
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 7: the radio, side TV, Tyler V on the video side,

1007
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 7: keeping us handsome on YouTube. For Matt Williamson, I'm west Shuler.

1008
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Speaker 7: Take care everybody, enjoy the victory Monday, and we will

1009
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Speaker 7: talk to you tomorrow. As always, you know where to

1010
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 7: find us. It's on your twenty four to seven home

1011
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 7: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio on the

1012
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Speaker 7: Steelers Audio Network.