1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Comedy Saved Me. Hey, welcome to Comedy Saved Me. I 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: am your host, Lynn Hoffman, And if you're enjoying the show, 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: first of all, thank you, and also, could you do 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: me a quick favor maybe drop a rating or review 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: on iHeart Apple or Spotify or wherever you listen, because 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: it would really help us spread the word and let 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: others know that you think the show is kind of cool, 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: which we so much appreciate, and hopefully we can get 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: more folks to check it out, because the more good 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: that we can do and the more good we can spread, 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the better, So thank you for that. Today, I sit 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: down with a comedian whose punchlines are like magic tricks, 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: boom right between the eyes. You never see them coming 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: until you're laughing out loud. She is the queen of 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: the perfectly timed pause, a master of the one liner, 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: and a trailblazer who's been making audiences crack up for decades. 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Get ready to walk through a sharp, witty, and wonderfully 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: surprising world of Wendy Leadman right now on Comedy Saved Me. Wendy, 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: welcome to Comedy Save Me. That's so great to have 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: you here. 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: I loved that intro. Thank you. I hope I can 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: live up to that. 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: You already have. And then some and everybody knows you. 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: You've been on every show that's possible that could feature comedians. 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Wendy and I were talking before we started the show 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: about our weird thing that we have with the color black, 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: that if you go look her up online, pretty much 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: every time you see her on stage, she's wearing black. 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: And I thought, wow, I do the exact same thing. 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: I went into my closet, it's all black. It's unbelievable. 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: So we have that little kinship between us. 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think when I'm on stage, I don't want 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: to distract the audience. So if I just were black, 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: then they're not looking at my paisley or skirt or 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: you know whatever. But I did tell you that I 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: bought a pink jacket to wear on stage the other day, 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: just because people need to change every once in a while. 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't mean change their clothes, but you know, change grow. 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 2: So I bought a pink jacket from Macy's and I'm 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: going to return it tomorrow. I do it, not me, 41 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: It's not me. Who am I kidding? 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: I do it all the time, all the time, I 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: try to convince myself that it's going to look good, 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: and then I always end up throwing on a black 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: T shirt and calling it a day. 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: I mean, my niece once asked me, aunt, Wendy, why 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: do you dress like a mime? And I was like, 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: who can say? 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: That's all you had to say with the hands I 50 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: love it all right. Well, Wendy, I just got you here, 51 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we have to take a 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: quick break, but we have to pay the bills somehow, 53 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: So if you wouldn't mind hanging out for a second 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back with Wendy Leibman on comedy 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: saved me. Comedy saved me, and we're back, Wendy Liebman, 56 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: can you share a moment when comedy truly saved you, 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: when laughter helped you get through a really tough time 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: in your life? 59 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: You know, honestly, I think I started doing stand up. 60 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: I mean, who knows why anybody does anything, But I 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: was very depressed. I was doing psych research. I was 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: going to be a therapist. I was doing psych research 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: at Harvard Medical School. I had just graduated from college. 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: I went to Wellesley and I thought I was going 65 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: to be a therapist. And I myself was very depressed, 66 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: and I took in the mail from the wrong apartment 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: and in the mail was a course catalog or an 68 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: adult ed center like the Learning Annets, but it was 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: called the adult Ed Center of Cambridge. In it was 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: a course on how to be a stand up comedian 71 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: and Lynn when I read those words, it was like 72 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: a light bulb went off, like Eureka, like I heard 73 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: angel singing. And even though I had never thought about 74 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: being a stand up comedian in my life, I just 75 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: felt like it was a calling, basically, like this is 76 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: what I'm supposed to do. And even though I was 77 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: not great for a couple of years, I just knew 78 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: that this is what I am, a stand up comedian. 79 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: So it saved me in that I was less depressed. 80 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: I would go to every comedy show I could. Laughter 81 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: itself is very healing, and they've done studies. There's a 82 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: whole study about laughter. I think it's called gelatology, and 83 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: they it's out of Stanford, and they show how it 84 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: helps increase breath and dopamine and you know, all the 85 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: good things in your body. And just being around people 86 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: was really good for me too, and I decided I 87 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: would rather make one hundred people laugh than one person 88 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: cry as a there or cry by myself. And I 89 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 2: think it really that was a long answer, but it 90 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: truly was what I needed psychologically, both watching comedy I 91 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: love to laugh, and and being the person on stage 92 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: making the audience laugh. It's a weird job, though, if 93 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: you think about it, like that's what we do. 94 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: It is, and it's interesting to me when I was 95 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: reading about you graduated Wellesley College as a psychologist, which 96 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: is amazing. I minored in psychology, but I kind of 97 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: knew what I wanted to do, so I thought it 98 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: would be helpful just to be able to communicate with 99 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: people overall, just to understand people more. But you actually 100 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: wanted to go full on and help people with therapy, 101 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: and I'm just curious how much of that has helped 102 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: you in comedy. 103 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: I think a big part of being a therapist is listening, 104 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: and I think I really listened to the audience, like 105 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: I've owned that skill. I am aware of the audience, 106 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: like I realize. I'm also aware like if I'm in 107 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: an airport, I pick up on things around me. So 108 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: it just honed my senses. I think being thinking that 109 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: it was going to be a psychologist and then actually 110 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: doing stand up. I don't know if that answered your question, 111 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: but there's some overlap. 112 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: No, No, that does make sense. And it's interesting too 113 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: that you just said that you can kind of tell 114 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: what's going on with people. And is that because of 115 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: your education or maybe you're sensitive. 116 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: I think a little of both. Yeah, yeah, it's hard 117 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: to tell. 118 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's very confusing when picked the right 119 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: career path, right, because you've been incredibly successful. I was 120 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: curious what you approach to comedy and how it evolved 121 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: over the years. You've been doing this a while, and 122 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: what advice you would give to your younger self, maybe 123 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: when you were just starting out. 124 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: Well, I tell comedians now who ask me for advice 125 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: to perform as much as humanly possible, which is what 126 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: I did when I first started. Even though I had 127 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: a day job, I was at at least one, if 128 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: not three, open mics every single night in Boston, and 129 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: there were a lot more venues and a lot fewer comedians, 130 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: so it's a lot easier to get on stage. So 131 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: I would drive all over town or through five states, 132 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: Rhode Island, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, and then I'd 133 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: be back at work the next morning. So that's the 134 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: main thing, is performing as much as possible, because you 135 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: could think you're the funniest person in the world, and 136 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: you might be, but until you hear the audience laughing, yeah, 137 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: you need like practical experience. So that's one thing I 138 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: would tell myself, which I listened to. But the other 139 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: thing I would I tell people Now, the thing that 140 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: I wish people had told me was tru I knew 141 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: material all the time, because I would tend and I 142 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: still do tend to hone my jokes that I have 143 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: and work on them for years. And I would have 144 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: a lot more material and a few more specials if 145 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: I had taken chances and trusted the audience enough to 146 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: or trusted myself to feel comfortable trying out new material. 147 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: I write all the time. I just don't try it 148 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: out all the time. 149 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Well, wouldn't you say that? That would be That's incredibly 150 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: interesting but very familiar as I work with a lot 151 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: of producers and I see that happen a lot, where 152 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: they get in their own way because it's not done yet. 153 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: But it's only subjective to you. But then it's like 154 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: a birthing because then you have to put it out 155 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: there to be judged by everybody, so you want to 156 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: make sure it's perfect. So that's kind of. 157 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Hard, exactly. And I was with a few comedians the 158 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: other night. I produced a benefit for reproductive rights and 159 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: I performed last year and they asked me to produce 160 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: it this year. And I had some of the best 161 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: talent out there. I had Reader Rudner, who was one 162 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: of my idols, and Kathy Griffin and Kathy Ladman and 163 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: Stephanie Blum, and we were talking backstage about using jokes 164 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: that we wrote thirty years ago. And not that any 165 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: of us is Bruce Springsteen, but I said, Bruce Springsteen 166 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: still sings Born to run every show, so if it works, 167 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: it works. So yeah, if your jokes aren't topical or 168 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: seem out of context or ridiculous, they work, so why 169 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: not use it anyway? But yes, I would tell my 170 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: former self to just take a million chances. 171 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: And be fearless. 172 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: Be fearless. Yeah, but part of what makes me do 173 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: or made me do stand up, was an insecurity of 174 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: that I would fit in or get along. And I've 175 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: I've been heckled a few times, and I've been and 176 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: I've bombed, not many times. I mean, I'm not bragging, 177 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: but like I I've bombed in the last ten years, 178 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: but uh, I haven't bombed like where it was just 179 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: painful where. 180 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: It came out and like dragged you off right. 181 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: But in those times when I have bombed, I felt 182 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: the same way that I felt before I did stand up, 183 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: which was very alone, very missile, understood, panicky and depressed. 184 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: But that hasting true with so many people. What you 185 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: just said, it happens to me all the time. It's amazing. 186 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: You think you get ten steps ahead and then one 187 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: thing happens and then you're right back where you were before. 188 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: You learn that lesson. 189 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: Well, I did a show the other night. It was 190 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: like a private club in Beverly Hills and it was 191 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: thirty year olds somethings, and it wasn't my audience, let's 192 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: put it that way. It wasn't my audience. And I 193 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: had to work, like really work like they didn't know 194 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: me at all. And I was reminded that, yeah, this 195 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: is my this is a job. What's my point. My 196 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: point is every time I get on stage, it's a 197 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: new Audien, and you never know, like I have done 198 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: it so many times for the past forty something years 199 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: that I know that I could get a laugh with 200 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: a certain joke, But there's never any guarantee. 201 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Forty years, man, you have not even aged a second 202 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: since the first time I saw you. Look amazing. 203 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: It's the filter. 204 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Everything looks better on the camera. 205 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Your punchlines are famous for their subtle, shall I say, misdirection. 206 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: How did you develop that signature style of yours and 207 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: what challenges sort of came with it? 208 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: I think that's just the way my brain works. But 209 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: I think any quote unquote artist, if I can call myself, 210 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: that is influenced by the people that they grow up with, 211 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: that they start their art with. And I was in 212 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: Boston in the eighties, and I would watch watch comedian 213 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: Jonathan Katz, comedian Brian Kylie, who's my favorite joke writer. 214 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: I would watch Laura Kitlinger, Don Gavin, Steve Sweeney, and 215 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: Kevin Meanie, and I would see them, oh and Bill Broadest, 216 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: and I would see them and see what worked with them. 217 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: And I remember watching Kevin Meanie one night, the late 218 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: great Kevin Meanie, and he was on a roll, like 219 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: there was never any lag and I thought, that's what 220 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: I want to do. I do not want silence, so 221 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: I kept adding taglines. So it was an evolution, like 222 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: that's all I can say. It was like I learned 223 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: from watching and listening, and now in my sixties, I 224 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: appreciate the silence more because I think there's actually my 225 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: husband for our twenty second anniversary gave me a book 226 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: called The Power of Silence. Oh that's just a joke. 227 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: Was he trying to tell you, just a joke. 228 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: I should have been getting that book too. 229 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do like the silence now. I take 230 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: my time now on stage. 231 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird. I always felt my whole life I 232 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: had to fill the silence. I'm so nervous, like if 233 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: it's too quiet, it gets weird, right, But now it's 234 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: like very powerful. 235 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: I feel the exact same way. And I realized recently 236 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: that it was about being around my mother, who had 237 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: to fill all the silence too, Like we could never 238 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: have any lag time in our conversation because then it 239 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: meant something else might happen. And not to get too 240 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: not to get too heady and psychological about it, but 241 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: I think that's where it comes from for me. Yeah, 242 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: so I find myself with people probably like you, trying 243 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: to make them feel comfortable and fill the gaps. I've 244 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: been talking to my husband's cousin. She's a wellness coach, 245 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: and at the beginning of our zooms we take breaths, 246 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: and so we have to be quiet. 247 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: Oh God, it must be so cool we can do that, 248 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: I know. 249 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: All it is. 250 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: What is a common misunderstanding, Wendy that audiences have about 251 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: comedians and stand up comedy? 252 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: Ooh, maybe that we're funny all the time. And I 253 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: have to say, I know some comedians who are all 254 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: always on, and then I know a lot of comedians 255 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: who are like the opposite of funny when they're on, 256 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: I mean when they're not on. In my situation, my 257 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: husband is the funny one for real and for real, 258 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: he's so funny, my husband. But he's also really shy, 259 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: like he would never do stand up. He said, if 260 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: I do stand up, I'm just going to be on 261 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: stage and I'm gonna wet my pants. Hey, Mike gonna 262 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: say right, and I'll say, that's my time. But he 263 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: always has some really creative, funny thing to say about 264 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 2: every day. 265 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: Wow. 266 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: Well, he's a writer. He wrote on a sitcom called 267 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: Boy Meets World. 268 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: Oh I remember that. 269 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: Yes, And he's also the son of a songwriter who 270 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: wrote a lot of the Sick for Disney. Wow. They 271 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: wrote Mary Poppins and Shitty Chitty Bang Bang. Oh my gosh, 272 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 2: the music. Yeah. They wrote the song It's a Small World. 273 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: So you're like your own little entertainment mecca empire right there, 274 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: just the two of you. 275 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: Wow, it's just funny. Yeah. My husband inspired the song 276 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: spoonful of Sugar No way Edison go down. Yes. He 277 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: came home from school and his dad said, what did 278 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: you do today? And he said, we got the salt 279 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: vaccine or the vaccine for polio. And my father in 280 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: law said, you let them give you a shot. He 281 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: was seven, And my husband said, no. They put it 282 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: on a sugar cube, and the sugar cube was on 283 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: a spoon and we just ate it. 284 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know it's I can't believe. That's 285 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: such a fun fact that no one would ever. 286 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: Know, right, And so my father in law like twiddled 287 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: his thumbs and called his brother who was his writing partner, 288 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: and the next day they wrote a spoonful of sugar 289 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: helps medicine go down. 290 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: In the most delightful way. 291 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: Exactly. 292 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, you heard it here first. That is very cool. 293 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: Unless you must you must have told that story before. 294 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure once or a zillion times. 295 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: What what what's the funniest or most memorable show that 296 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: you've had and what made it stand out? Can you 297 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: remember you've done something? 298 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: I have two shows that I always think about, and 299 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: one was I got to open for Bob Hope in 300 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: the nineties Wow outside for five thousand people wow, and 301 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, and that was surreal. I mean I've opened 302 00:19:52,640 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: for a lot of famous people like Ray Charles and 303 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 2: and Margaret and Leo Glacy like I can't even believe 304 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: my life. I feel like Zellig sometimes. But that was 305 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: memorable just because of the comedy gravity. And then one 306 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: time I was in a basement of an Italian restaurant 307 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 2: called Paisanos in Dearborn, Michigan, and there were eight people 308 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: on a Sunday night and it was joyous. I just 309 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: included all eight of us. By the end, we knew 310 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: everybody's name. I think I bought everybody. During why I 311 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: felt like a puk on an air hockey board. I 312 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: was in the moment, I just it was It was 313 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: really fun. And you know, I've gotten much more conversational 314 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: talking to the audience over the years, whereas when I 315 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: first started, it was like I had to follow my 316 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: script and every word had to be in place. And 317 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: because jokes rely on the rhythm and the punchline and 318 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: you know, the wording, there's timing and yeah, the timing. 319 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: So I was very studious like that. But then I 320 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: started talking to the audience, probably just to fill the 321 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: time sometimes, and the audience loves that because it's like 322 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: an inside joke with the audience. You feel like you 323 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: feel like the comedian is not just an actor saying 324 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: lines that they are really the comedy brain. The people 325 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: who are best at that. You know, now you see 326 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: it a lot. Now you see a lot of comedians 327 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: posting their audience interaction videos. But before that, this wave, 328 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: Paula Poundstone is the best at it. She riffs with 329 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: the audience. Comedian named Jimmy Brogan, who was one of 330 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: Jay Leno's head writers for many years. He's phenomenal. Russell 331 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: Peters is amazing, like it's a real gift. And so 332 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm not great at it, but I've gotten better over 333 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: the years and I really enjoy it. Like I opened 334 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: for I have a standing gig opening for Fritz Coleman, 335 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: who was the weather guy here in LA for forty years, 336 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: and he just stand up. That's how he started. He 337 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: was seen at the comedy club and they asked him, 338 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: do you want to do the weather? 339 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: Of all things? 340 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: I know, I know. I think David Letterman started that 341 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: way too. Wow. But so now he is a standing 342 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: gig and I do twenty minutes in front of him 343 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: once a month, and his is more like a play. 344 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 2: But so I do the opposite of that. I just 345 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: interact with the audience and talk to them about life. 346 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: So love I love using that creative muscle. 347 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: It's sort of like relaxing in the saddle of life. 348 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: It's the only kind of Someone said that to me once. 349 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: Oh I love that right, all of a sudden, It's 350 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: like even when I was doing the show originally, I 351 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: had come off all public stuff for probably like ten 352 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: twelve years, and I really wasn't going to get back 353 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: into doing anything unless it was for good purposes. Hence 354 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm here but being comfortable to say, wait a minute, 355 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: hold on a second, let me look at a note 356 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: that I just had here. You just meant, you know, 357 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: and then it's okay to do that. You don't have 358 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: to be so polished and perfectly right. 359 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bring notes sometimes, and I even asked the audience, 360 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 2: I say I'm trying some new jokes, would you mind? 361 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: And they're like no, no, of course. 362 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more of the Comedy Save 363 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: Me Podcast. Welcome back to the Comedy Save Me Podcast. 364 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: You mentioned Paula Poundstone, and I just found out yesterday 365 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: that she's going to be coming on the show as well, 366 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: So I'm so stoked over that. First I get Wendy Leidman, 367 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: and now Paula Poundstone's going to come on, and I 368 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: can't even wait to talk to her. If you could 369 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: ask her a question, what would you ask her? 370 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: Let me think about that, but I want to tell 371 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: you a story about please yea, that's okay, yea. So 372 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: she originated in Boston, so when I was starting, she 373 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 2: came back to do a show and I remember watching 374 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: her and thinking, and I had just done it for 375 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: like six months, and I remember thinking, I am, I 376 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: should just quit because I'm never going to be that funny. 377 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: I can never be that funny. And forty years later, 378 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: I have realized everybody has their own voice. It's like 379 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: there's a room for every single voice. And so I 380 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: was on a show that she was hosting recently, like recently, 381 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: probably a year and a half ago, and she watched 382 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: everything and laughed at everything I said, and I thought, 383 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 2: oh my god. And she even tweeted about me the 384 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 2: next day, and I thought, oh my god, this is 385 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: surreal and it's full circle. And so what would I 386 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: ask her? I would ask her if she would let 387 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: me open for the road. Now I know that's a 388 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: great question. She doesn't have anybody open for her. I 389 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: don't know what I would ask her. 390 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: Think about that. 391 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: We'll circle, I will, we'll stirkle back. 392 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: I just like saying that. I'm trying to think you'd 393 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: mentioned something that I'll come back. 394 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: Your notes, look, get your notes. 395 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm mean. Steve Sweeney Kevin Meaney, two of my all 396 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: time favorites. In fact, when I was doing morning radio 397 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: in Boston one year, I got a random phone call 398 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: and I didn't know who it was, and it was 399 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: Steve Sweeney and they had hired him to do morning 400 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: radio a comedian doing mourning radio, like having to get 401 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: up at the time you would normally go to bed 402 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: after a show. I have one question for you, and 403 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: I said what he said, How the hell do you 404 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: get up at this ungodly hour and try to be 405 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: funny and entertain people? I don't And it was like 406 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine that he would even do the job. 407 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: But he was really good, and we competed against each 408 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: other in Boston and it was wow. It was very 409 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: fun and we became friendly. He is just an amazing 410 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: I love him so much. I just absolutely adore him. 411 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, ye, he was like he was amazing. I mean 412 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: he still is. But doing morning radio, that's like in 413 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: any job, it's not just the job. My job I 414 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: see as getting to the gig, you know, either flying 415 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: or driving. There's always some travel, yeah, and it's also 416 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: learning how to do morning pr which is radio, or 417 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: learning how to do press, which I didn't know that 418 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: was part of my job. So I would fly to 419 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: a city on the East coast, so I'm three hours behind. 420 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 2: I'd go to sleep at three anyway at home, so 421 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be asleep for more than an hour, and 422 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: then I would have to get up and do radio, 423 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: so it like really messed with my circadian rhythm. But 424 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: what's my point? Yeah, I don't know how. I don't 425 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: know how you did morning radio. 426 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: I love that you get lost. Sometimes I was great. 427 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: But sometimes the more tired you are, the better it is, 428 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: you know, because you don't think so much about what 429 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: you're doing, and you're just like. 430 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: Whatever, oh my god, oh my god. 431 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh wait, you in the back, you have your hand up, yeah, 432 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: oh my god. 433 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 3: What. 434 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: So for years this is exactly true. I had a 435 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: day job, as I said, so I didn't sleep a lot. 436 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: So a lot of comedians back in the eighties they 437 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: would drink a lot, and so it was easier for 438 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: them to get on stage. I anesthetized myself by being exhausted. No, 439 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: I'm being serious. And then I recently had to do 440 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: a radio show here in La at night, and I 441 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: was not tired at all, and I realized this is 442 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: harder when I am way conscious. Yes, like because I'm 443 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: used to doing morning radio out So yes, I totally 444 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 2: agree with you. Having less or fewer faculties at that 445 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: hour makes you freer. 446 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just makes you looser and you don't care 447 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: as much. You know, it's kind of what we talked 448 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: about earlier. 449 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: Connected with you. We have two we have the necklace, 450 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: we have the hair. 451 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: You look. I can't even tell you. I really really 452 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: feel connected to you the minute that you popped on 453 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: the screen. And it's really weird. But I grew up 454 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: in Boston, so maybe that might have something to do 455 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: with it. And I'm sure you came on the John 456 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: Lander Morning show once or twice in Boston. It was 457 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: like the number one show for many many years. It 458 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: was Lander and Maddie. 459 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure I was on your show, I'm sure. 460 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: And funny enough, it was Maddie at one point, Maddie 461 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: Lander and Steve Sweeney all on the morning's different stations 462 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: in Boston. Isn't that crazy? 463 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: Well, I would have listened to you. 464 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: Ah, thanks, Wendy. When life gets stressful, what role does 465 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: comedy play in keeping you grounded? 466 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: I realized recently that I was having a hard time recently, 467 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: and I haven't felt depressed since the eighties when I 468 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: started doing comedy. I know that's pretty good. I mean, 469 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: medication and therapy help, but comedy just play a big 470 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: role in that. And I realized that I hadn't performed 471 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: in a while, and it's like a thick I needed 472 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: a fix. 473 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: You were going through withdrawals. 474 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: I really was, but I didn't realize it until I 475 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: sat down and thought about it, that it does play 476 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: a big role hearing people laugh. I'm curious about that too. 477 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't have that answer, but hearing laughter for forty years, 478 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: I wonder what that does to somebody's psyche. Wow, like 479 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: maybe some kind of I don't know, I don't know, 480 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: but so comedy. I also love watching comedy, Like yesterday 481 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: I watched a comedian ning Sam Morrill. I've recently watched 482 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: Jessica Curzon and Nate bart Gaze. I don't know how 483 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: to pronounce his name. But I love like listening to 484 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: Brian Reagan and David tel And. Yeah, I just love 485 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: laughing because what it does is it makes me think 486 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: a different way. Like when somebody's making you laugh, it's like, oh, 487 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: there's like an out, So there's another way to think 488 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: about this. It's not all consistent. Wow. 489 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: Wow, Well, I have to tell you two things popped 490 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: into my head when you were just saying that. One 491 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: we need the laugh app, the Wendy Leeveman laugh app. 492 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: Where you just turn it on and it's just funny 493 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: people laughing, like you don't even have to tell a joke, 494 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: just laughing and hearing it. And then the other thing 495 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking is my oldest, dearest friend, Scott. He 496 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: had the funniest laugh growing up that I remember telling 497 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: him if we could somehow bottle your laughter and or 498 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: sell it like a commodity, they need it on TV 499 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: shows because back then you had to have laugh tracks 500 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: and stuff. You know, there wasn't any ai or so. 501 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: But I loved him the most, and I look back 502 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: and I think about what you're saying, and I'm wondering. 503 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: You know, he could tell great stories and he always 504 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: made me laugh, but his laugh was even funnier than 505 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: his funny stories. And I wonder if maybe that's another 506 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: reason why I was so close to him, because he 507 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: made me feel so good all the time. 508 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's it's so healing to laugh, especially 509 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: with somebody, and I feel like laughter is the healing 510 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: is exponential when you're laughing in a group. I want 511 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: to get my quote right. I wrote something and I 512 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: want to get it right, like I can't remember exactly. 513 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: I think it's a laughing crowd is a chorus of 514 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: peace because we're all on the same wavelength at that point, 515 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: and it's joyous. It really is. 516 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: It is. Have you ever had a moment like when 517 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: you were on stage and you felt like you were 518 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: helping the audience get through something and heal, helping them heal. 519 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: Well, always after something big, like after the pandemic or 520 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: after nine to eleven, I can feel that the audience 521 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: wants to laugh more. So we're just the instigator. We're 522 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: like the impetus. We are there to say it's okay 523 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 2: to laugh, So we're giving you permission, and if what 524 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: you're saying is funny, that's even better. So I felt 525 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: the laughter was like deeper after tragedy. 526 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: So you know, and you bring up tragedy and then 527 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: you know, tell me to shut up or not bring 528 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: something up. But I saw something that in my research 529 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: on you that I thought was just so impressive. And 530 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to get into the reasons 531 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: and all of it, but you were kind of taken 532 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: out of commission because of a car accident and. 533 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: Oh, i'll talk about it. 534 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean I don't know, and yeah, but 535 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: what I read was you put yourself back on the 536 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: scene by going on. Was this correct? America's got talent? 537 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, so you're talking about the first act that, 538 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: oh there. 539 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: Was more than one. You weren't driving, were you? 540 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: Do you not hang out with me? Unventurable of ours? 541 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: I guess all I could say. 542 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: Okay, the first time my husband and I were driving 543 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 2: back from a dinner, it was eleven at night. We 544 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: were at a stop light. There were four lanes across, 545 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: two of them were turning left, and we were hit 546 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: by a drunk driver. All seven cars, well he was 547 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: the seventh, but it was like he bowled into these 548 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 2: stationary cars. The woman in the car right next to 549 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 2: us died like it was that close. 550 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 551 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: And so just by fate, by fate, we moved lanes 552 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: because we didn't want to be behind this one group 553 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 2: of kids in a car that seemed a little rowdy, 554 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: so we moved over. I was sitting on the bus 555 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 2: bench on the side, waiting for whatever to have the hullabaloop, 556 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: and I thought I have to get back out there. 557 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I said, because I'd been doing stand up, 558 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: but I was also a stepmom at that point. And 559 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 2: I stayed home more and so I auditioned for America's 560 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 2: Got Talent and that really did like boost my visibility. 561 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: So that was great. 562 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: But that's incredible that you put yourself out there that way. 563 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like you didn't just come back. You 564 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: went on a major, widely watched show and put yourself 565 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: right out there. 566 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 2: Well. I had seen other like some peers on that show, 567 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, they did it, I can try. 568 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 2: And it was really fun. And I never expected to win. 569 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: I just thought this is a good experience, like that 570 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: I have as I gotten older. I think everything is 571 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 2: just cumulative, all good experience. And I met amazing people 572 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: and I'm still friends with people that I met. The 573 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: sons of serendip which is this beautiful quartet. They started 574 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 2: it be You, actually they met it be You, and 575 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: they're just phenomenon. Matt Franco, who won that year, he's 576 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: a magician, he has his own showroom in Vegas. So anyway, 577 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 2: it was the people that I met. 578 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: That's cool. So you remain friends with all those people, 579 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: that's very cool. 580 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I fight. I knew I wasn't gonna win, so 581 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to win this Congenie out. 582 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: Runner up. Oh my gosh. 583 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 2: And then the second accident, I was just walking across 584 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 2: the street and I was hit by a car. Don't 585 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: feel bad for me, because I. 586 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: I've never read anyone say that to me. No, I 587 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: was hit by a car, but don't feel bad for me. 588 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: Don't feel bad because so they broke a leg and 589 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: both my feet. Oh, then it should have been like 590 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 2: six months recovery. But when they took the cast off, 591 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: this is something that this goes into the category of 592 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: shit you can't make up. They took the cast off, 593 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: they saw that one of the foot that was being 594 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: rehabilitated or the leg was crooked like they said it wrong, 595 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 2: the rod was twisted. They had to go back and 596 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: rebreak the leg, and so that took another six months. 597 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: So I was basically in bed. Don't feel bad for me. 598 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 2: I was in bed for fourteen months. But it wasn't 599 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: all bad. I have to tell you, Like I well, 600 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: I try to find the good and everything, but I 601 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: no pun intended. I needed a break. I had done 602 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 2: the road for so many years and here I was 603 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 2: being waited on hand and foot. I felt so loved 604 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: by my friends and I got a little money from 605 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 2: the woman that had hit me. 606 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: Oh well that's always good, yeah, because that would suck 607 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: if you find out they don't have insurance and your 608 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: sol in bed fourteen months with bed sores. Right, hopefully 609 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: you had cute nurses though. 610 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 2: Well, I have my husband who now I say, I 611 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 2: will do anything like he was sick for one day 612 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 2: recently and I got, oh my god, I can't stand this. 613 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: Nothing gets done and. 614 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 2: He did it for fourteen months. Wow. 615 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: That means he really really loves you a lot. 616 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: He was an angel. 617 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: How long have you been married? 618 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: Twenty two years and together for three before that? So 619 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, I can't remember. So you got 620 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: to know each other too long? No, No, is there are. 621 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: Piece Actually, let me skip back to one before, because 622 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: you've been so generous with your time and we're kind 623 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: of coming up on that and I'm like, my last 624 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: couple of questions and although I don't want to let 625 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: you go other than comedy, are there other passions that 626 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: you have or creative outlets that we should pay attention to, 627 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: or maybe that you could share that maybe nobody knows. No, 628 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: that answers that question. I love it. 629 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: No, No, it does nothing. 630 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: Else for comedy. That's it. I do you like to cook? 631 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: Love playing the piano? Oh? See, so I'm not a 632 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: good cook. I'm not a good cook, but I watch 633 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 2: all the cooking shows and my husband's like, why do 634 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 2: you even bother? I'm like, I don't know, I might 635 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: learn something. I also watch all the true crime shows. 636 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 2: Oh I don't know how to cook, but I try 637 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 2: to eat really healthy. Not every night, but I try to. 638 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: It's obvious by the way. Wendy, thank you seriously. You 639 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: are what you eat and you look like you're ageless, 640 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: Like you look exactly the same as I remember seeing 641 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: you ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. 642 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 4: Wow. 643 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: So that's a testament. It's a good eating. 644 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 2: Thank you. I love my jog. They're in the background. 645 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is video or audio. 646 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: They're not moving though. It's everything now. They stuffed. 647 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm attacked to jermists. You know they are the picture. 648 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: Obviously they are rescued from Korea. Oh, they are called 649 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 2: Jindo's and they were going to be eaten, not joking, 650 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: not joking what They were rescued from a meat market 651 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 2: in South Korea, and they are I love them so much. 652 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: But they're high maintenance and as trained as a carrot. 653 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 2: They are. 654 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: That's why I got a cat, Because they do what 655 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: they want. You don't have to worry about it. 656 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 2: I love it. I actually got them cat treats by accident, 657 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 2: and they loved them. And now they ignore me like 658 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: a cat. 659 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: Oh see, yeah, very smart, smart animals. They're beautiful and 660 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: lovely that you thank you rescued them from dinner cheapers. 661 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: I know, right, that's crazy to me. Is there one 662 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: piece of wisdom that you wish that you'd learned earlier 663 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: in your career? 664 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: Just to try new material all the time and also 665 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 2: just have fun, like I try to just have fun 666 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: now in my career. Like I had a show recently 667 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: where I heard there were going to be agents in 668 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 2: the audience, and I already have an agent, but I thought, ooh, 669 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: maybe they would cast me in a movie or something hike, 670 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: And then I saw, you know what, now I am 671 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: here to make this audience have a ball. Like I 672 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 2: heard Yo Yo Ma say that every time he stepped 673 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: on stage, he thought of himself as throwing a dinner party, 674 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 2: and that this the audience were his guests, And that 675 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 2: made a lot of sense. To me, so yeah, I 676 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 2: just want the audience to feel good. 677 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if yo Yo Ma was a 678 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: was a waiter ever, because I don't know why that 679 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: popped into my head. But I worked at a restaurant 680 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: when I was young, and every time i'd get a 681 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: large party, like a table with lots of people, I 682 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: couldn't even wait. Not that I wanted to be a comedian, 683 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 1: but I just loved, you know, trying to get them 684 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: to laugh, making them, making sure that they had a 685 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: good time. Of course, so i'd get a good tip, 686 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: but most of the you know what I mean, So 687 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't even wait. 688 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: Did you ever do stand up? 689 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: No? No? I love making people laugh. I loved. My 690 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: favorites were Carol Burnett, I watched you know, Goldiehan laugh 691 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: and all of it. Saturday Night Live me too huge, 692 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: But I never thought that I could ever do it 693 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: because it was me alone. Like I never wanted to 694 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: host my own show by myself. Wow, careful what you 695 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: wish for, But but I always wanted to work with 696 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: a comedy troup, like a team of people, like a 697 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 1: collaborative team, which unfortunately is very difficult to find. And 698 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: why most bands need therapy after touring for fifty years. 699 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, but I wanted to be a host 700 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: that was funny, like Tom. 701 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 2: Bergern right, you know in Boston. 702 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: Yeah so, and he's been on comedy Save Me too. So, 703 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: speaking of which, before I let you go, Indy, we 704 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: were talking about Paula Poundstone and I've given you some 705 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: time to think about it, although I haven't really because 706 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 1: I've been talking your ear off. What you know, because 707 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: I'll play it for her if you want, so, if 708 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: you really want it to be opening for her, I 709 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: will do that. 710 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 2: No, no, because she'll say, I don't have anybody open 711 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 2: for me. 712 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 4: I am ask Paula how she started taking pictures of 713 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 4: a chair at every venue she talks to the chair backstage, 714 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 4: she takes it. 715 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 2: She takes a picture of a chair. 716 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: All right, this is cool, this is totally inside. 717 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: And oh, I do want to tell her something though, okay, 718 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 2: if that's okay. 719 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 720 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 2: I follow her social media and in the background of 721 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 2: her house or somewhere in her house she has a 722 00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 2: picture of I think it's Mary Poppins, and so I 723 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 2: want to tell her about my connection to Mary Poppins. 724 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: And I've met her like a dozen times now, but 725 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 2: I don't think she knows who I am. But also, 726 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: we're really good friends with Mickey Dolan's from the Monkeys, 727 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 2: and she and Nicky share a cat. Not really, it's 728 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 2: just on on social media. Okay, So I want, I 729 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 2: guess I want to vet myself by telling her that 730 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 2: we're best friends with Nicky Dolans. So not really a question. 731 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: So you have a mutual monkey between you exactly. Not 732 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: on our back, not on your back, Wendy Leebman, I 733 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 1: could talk to you for hours. You're an amazing person. 734 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 735 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 5: Talking to you and comedy truly saved me from depression, 736 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 5: from uh just figuring out my life. 737 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 2: Learn so much from comedy. I once wrote a piece 738 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 2: called what I learned from stand up comedy. Figure out 739 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 2: your hair. You are unique, but you're also equal to 740 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 2: everybody where. Whatever you want, and pray that nobody throws 741 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 2: anything at your head. I mean, there are like forty 742 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 2: things on the list, but those are the ones that 743 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 2: come to mind. 744 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: Oh, and eat healthy if you can. 745 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 2: And eat healthy. 746 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 1: Yes, sustenance, Wendy Leibman, thank you for being on comedy 747 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: save me and good luck with everything. And I do 748 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: hope our paths cross again, because it was just. 749 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,479 Speaker 2: I hope so too. You're my sister from another mother. 750 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you so much. Have a great 751 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: rest you Oh is there anything you want to plug? 752 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? 753 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 2: Website Wendyleibman dot com. 754 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: That's it. 755 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm on on every social media platform except X. Thank you, 756 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,479 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, a wonderful day, you too.