1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff I Never told you, PRODUCTU of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: And we're back with another happy hour. 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Yay. 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: And it's been a long first month of the year, 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: like it's never ending. 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: It feels like it should be like one hundred and 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: sixth day of January. Maybe it just seems like a 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 3: never ending drag of all these things happening. So if 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: it feels like you're being overwhelmed with a lot of 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: bad you're not the only one. I think you've heard 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: a say of many times we feel overwhelmed and everything's 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: the worst. And it may be the doom scrolling, or 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: it may be that the plan is to paralyze you 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: with fear. But before we start, this happy hour isn't 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: just a wineing session that I typically but a conversation 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 3: we need desperately and something I need to shake out 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: as we try to survive the next four years. You 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: know how we do with the happy hours before we start, 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: find a comfortable seat. If you're slipping on something special, 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: do so responsibly. Whatever you're doing, do so responsibly. If 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: you're in panic mode. This is this is a good 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: conversation to have. I think we should you should take 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 3: the time to listen to this. So we are talking 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: about current affairs, but it is something that we need 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: to talk about. But before we start, we're actually drinking 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: a little fancy drinks today. Instead of going for the 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: newer companies, we came back to a goodie and Annie, 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: can you tell us what you're drinking right now? 30 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I am drinking Black Girl Magic Bubbly Red and 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: it can that Samantha delivered to me was kind enough 32 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: to deliver to me yesterday. 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I was just playing door dash yesterday, not a sponsor. 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: Sponsor, yeah, because I was going around. I've been looking 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: for like just easy, ready made drinks for us who 36 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: just need a quick sip of something nice and refreshing. 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: And I forgot that Black Own Magic, who is the 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: McBride sisters created their own line of canned beverages. So 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: we got that red because we both love red and 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: this is ef pervescent, which I was like, what a 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: bubbly red? 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: How does it taste? 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 3: Because I haven't opened mind yet. 44 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: Oh it's really good. I thought. My concern with bubbly 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: reds is that they'll be too sweet, and it's not 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: at all. It's very Chris. It's got of nice bites, 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: but it's really pleasant. 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: It kind of made my like, you know, like the 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: tartness a little bit, but it's balancing out. It's really good. 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: I like it a lot. 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 3: I think it's a Cabernet sauvignon, right, Yes, okay. 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: And shout out. 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: If you want to know more about the McBride sisters 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: and their wine, we have a past episode. 56 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: Maybe we can bring it back much. 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: Y'all hear about them as a classic, but yeah, we 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: did feature them before, so go back and listen. 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: And they have huge They're huge. I love it. 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: They are now available everywhere I saw them, not Trader 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: Joe's recently. 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: They have a bubbly Yeah, they're they're doing their thing. 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: I have uh their she Can, So they have a 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: whole special addition she Can. It's called it says, break 65 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: the rules, Break the rules, drink the wine. Is there 66 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: a little logo for it and it's uh tropical sprits. 67 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: So it's a carbonated rose wine and it donuts to 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 3: the mcbright sisters she Can Fund, which supports the advancement 69 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: of women in male dominated industries with scholarships, memberships, and 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: communities which is super cyper cool. Yeah, I'm gonna open 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: it on mike Ya. If you don't like that crisp 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: sound of opening, can to listen. Okay, I'm gonna taste 73 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: it right now. 74 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh that's nice. 75 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: Is nice? 76 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: Like the rose with the fruitiness, so you've got that 77 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: little the wine bite with an extra kick. 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tangerine to me. 79 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: Oh, we just did an episode on Tangerine's for Savor, 80 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: so well. 81 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many brands and Breeze and. 82 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: Like, okay, yeah, that's why I side is because tangerine is. 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: We did a much larger category, but tangerine is anyway. 84 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: Angelo's all of those Oh. 85 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: It was I gave me a huge headaches. Man, it 86 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: was really difficult. 87 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: I have a specific kind that I like that. 88 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, I wait for the season because it's easy 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: to peel off and it's very like Asian. 90 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: People love oranges. Yeah, all people do. I guess I apologize. 91 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: Anyway, go back to so that we are drinking that 92 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: as we are having this very detailed conversation because we're 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: going to support as many marginalized businesses as possible, and 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: that includes women led businesses and black owned businesses because 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: for the next four years, we are going to push. 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: Back with our money. Am I right? I am right. 97 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm also doing that with local businesses as well. So 98 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: we did visit. 99 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: I did go to our local beverage, as you will. 100 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: That's only in Atlanta. I don't think I've seen it 101 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: anywhere else, but they are a local area. Greens also 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: not a sponsor, but if you're in Atlanta, they have 103 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: a great section of alcohols and then some Anyway, with 104 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: everything we have, we have to find a middle ground, 105 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: and it's easy to be overwhelmed. So we wanted to 106 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: talk about what is happening with this shock and awe 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: of this administration. A lot has happened. Executive orders have 108 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: been signed, not legally, not all of them legally. There 109 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: are so many things that they are being pushed back on, 110 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: and I think it's important that we have this conversation 111 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: of what is happening in our administration. Typically this would 112 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 3: be something that we talk about on our Monday Mini, 113 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: but I need to figure this out as a person 114 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: who is trying to get as much detailed, correct and 115 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: accurate information as possible and feeling like everything in the 116 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: US has been censored or as propaganda somehow one way 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: or the other. So I really feel like trying to 118 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: get my bearings, and I think, I know I'm not 119 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: the only one listening around. Sure you're with us. I 120 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: know Annie feels the same way in so many respects. 121 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, no, no, I do. I mean I had to. 122 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: I had to be like, you can't overreact at everything, 123 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: because you'll just drown. And I'm actually somebody who likes 124 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: to let the dust settle before I deal with it, 125 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: because otherwise, who knows if what you saw somewhere or 126 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: heard somewhere is true exactly because it's all so fast paced, 127 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: and so I like to, you know, not get too 128 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: caught up in it. But I mean, I'm human, and 129 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: sometimes it happens. But I definitely have friends where I 130 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: have to be. I have to say. I can tell 131 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: you're spiral ring, you're sending me all these texts. It's okay, right, 132 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: I mean it's not okay, but let's were. 133 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: We have to deal with this and just breathe. So 134 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: that is something that I think we do need to 135 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: talk about. So yesterday I saw on a TikTok a 136 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: woman named Jennifer Walters and her handle is it's Jennifer Walter, 137 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: and I believe this is on threads, I guess on 138 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: Instagram and again her handle is it's Jennifer Walter, and 139 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: I think it's something that we really need to think about. 140 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: So I want to read her thread right now go. 141 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 142 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: Much about her other works, but she is a sociologist, 143 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: so I think it says a lot. 144 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: But here's what she says. As a sociologist, I need to. 145 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: Tell you your overwhelm is the goal. The flood of two 146 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: hundred plus executive orders in Trump's first day exemplifies Naomi 147 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: Klein's shock doctrine, using chaos and crisis to push through 148 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: radical changes while people are too disoriented to effectively resist. 149 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: This isn't just politics as usual. It's a strategic exploitation 150 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: of cognitive limits. Media theorist mcgluhahn predicted this. When humans 151 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: face information overload, they become passive and disengaged. The rapid 152 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: fire executive orders create a cognitive bottleneck, making it nearly 153 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: in pops possible for citizens and media to thoroughly analyze 154 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: any single policy. Agenda setting theory explains the strategy when 155 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: multiple major policies compete for attention. Simultaneously, it fragments public discourse. 156 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: Traditional media can't keep up with the pace, leading to 157 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: superficial coverage. The result weaken democratic oversight and reduce public engagement. 158 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: So that's something that I think we need to have 159 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: that conversation. This is on purpose. They've been talking about 160 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: doing this. Steve Bannon, one of his advisors from old 161 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: has talked about the fact that this is what they 162 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: were going to do. 163 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: This was the intent. 164 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: Project twenty twenty five kind of talks about that as well, 165 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: and he doesn't care if it's going to work. The 166 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: administration does not care. They want that shock to overwhelm 167 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: the headlines, and that is what is happening. So every 168 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: time you hear something with breaking news and there's a 169 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: TikTok creator whom I don't quite trust, but he has 170 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: a lot of information who comes out with breaking news 171 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: and he probably posts. He's got to be exhausted, like 172 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: ten times a day with different about what is happening 173 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: within the US and specifically what is happening with this administration. 174 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: And it's not because he's trying. 175 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: To overwhelm us. Maybe he is. I don't know. 176 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: I don't think he's he's I don't think he's an 177 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: op as the gen Aziers would say, but maybe he is. 178 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, because he's giving good information and accurate 179 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: information is just a lot and that is the point. 180 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: So I think we have to have a conversation about 181 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: what this is. With everything, we have to find a 182 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: middle ground, and that is something that you know as 183 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: a libra. 184 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: If I don't have that, I'm a fall asleep. 185 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: Because my narcolepsy is going to pop in and be 186 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: like mop stress going to bed, you know. And it's 187 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: easy to be overwhelmed. And as a normal citizen, you're 188 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 3: not going to be able to fix the problem on 189 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: your own or immediately. But as a citizen, we can 190 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: make a difference. So both of those things. You're not 191 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: the most important here and you're not the like key player, 192 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: but you are a part of this puzzle. So these 193 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: both of these middle lines. I feel like when we 194 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 3: talk about the main character syndrome, this is what kind 195 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: of happens like you feel like you have to do 196 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: it immediately and if you don't, it's all your fault. 197 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: So it's both overwhelming, guilt ridden and at the same 198 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: time a little bit narcissistic. 199 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: It's all of these things. So she goes on. 200 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: Jennifer Walter goes on to talk about some solutions. She says, 201 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: what now, So one set boundaries, pick two to three 202 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: key issues you deeply care about, and focus your attention there. 203 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: You can't track everything that's by design. Impact comes from 204 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: sustained focus, not scattered awareness. So focus, use aggregators and experts. 205 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: Find trusted analysts who do the heavy lifting of synthesis. 206 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: Look for those explaining patterns, not just events. So again, 207 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: we kind of gave you a list of people and 208 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: a lot of people that you could look to to 209 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 3: get for more information. 210 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: That was for a reason. 211 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: Remember, feeling overwhelmed is the point when you recognize this, 212 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: you regain some power, take breaks. 213 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: Process. This is a marathon, and that's the beginning. 214 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: They're trying to get you to get tired out at 215 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: the very beginning. 216 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: So you give up and you get numb to it. 217 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: Stop stop practice, going slow, Wait forty eight hours before 218 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: reacting to new policies. So the way you're saying, let 219 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: the dust settle. Yes, Yes, yes, the urgent clouds the 220 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: important initial reporting often misses context. Yes, cute, build a 221 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: community share the cognitive load. Different people attract different issues. 222 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: Network intelligence beats individual overload. Again that you're part of 223 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: the puzzle. You're not the main character here. Come together, 224 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: you know's that whole common does something. 225 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm just we're already on. 226 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: A list, right, and I feel like we're probably on 227 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: a list already. Remember, they want you scattered. Your focus 228 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: is resistance. Once again, this is just that immediate moment 229 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: of conversation and understanding when you're feeling that scattered and overwhelmed. 230 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: We get there. We're all there. 231 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: We're all there, Like COVID is already kind of this 232 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: up real good and that level of chaos, and so 233 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: what we want to do is hide and seclude ourselves. 234 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: This is not that point. This is not that point. 235 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: You can take breaks, You need to take breaks. Let's 236 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: add that into this. You're not going to solve every problem. 237 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: We're not going to solve all the problems. You need 238 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: to consider what is important at this point for you 239 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: and focus on that. So I think that's really important. 240 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: Like we talked about intersectionality, Yes, but there's a lot 241 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: of us and we can all have segments of wow. 242 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think Another important part of that is 243 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: knowing when you are agreeing with someone or being kind 244 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: of maybe performative, you're taking up space, So like, no, no, 245 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: who should like if you're not the expert, If it's 246 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: an issue you care about, but it's not one of 247 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: your like three main issues, perhaps just know the difference 248 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: between showing support and kind of taking up space. 249 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: Yes, a necessarily amount of space. Talking too much for 250 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,359 Speaker 3: no reason. You don't need to have, Like, you don't. 251 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: Need to have a hot take on everything. You don't. 252 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: I get it, I get hot takes. I got some take. 253 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I get to I get to like 254 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: the feeling. But it's especially if you haven't waited for 255 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: the dust to settle just. 256 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 3: And I think that's the other conversation here is if 257 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: you feel offended by your peers by something because they 258 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: didn't take your recommendation or they don't think whatever you 259 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: think is important it's important to them. Right now, you 260 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: need to take a look at why you're doing this. 261 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: That's a you problem. I'm gonna put that out there. 262 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 3: I'm gonna call you in and tell you that's part 263 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: of the problem. And that is what Annie was saying 264 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: was performative if you are so like I have to 265 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: be the center of this and you to you that 266 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: might not be the thing because that's the main character syndrome. M. 267 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: You just have to figure out what it is best 268 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: for the collective. Yes, very apocalyptic, do it so again 269 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: with all of that, take the time to work through 270 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: your emotions. Yes, And I know you know what I 271 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: will say, the marginalized community, women, people of color, they're 272 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: the best at knowing bad like they understand that. So 273 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: we know how to go through that because we've been 274 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: told that we need to so that we're a pro 275 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: with that at this point, right. Yeah, but make sure 276 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: you're doing that in this moment. Make a plan and 277 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: research your information, research your information, find the community that 278 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: to plan those things out with, like, you need to 279 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: have this community. And as a reminder, there was another 280 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: TikTok that I really thought was good where they talked 281 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: about the fact that it's a new form of propaganda 282 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: they think, in which they don't give you all the 283 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: information and then if the information is wrong, they come 284 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: back and backtrack and be like, no, that's not what 285 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: we said, that's what they misinterpreted us. This is what 286 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: we're saying about keeping up to date and letting the 287 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: dust settle. Both of those things are important because you 288 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: don't know exactly what's happening now. What just happened with 289 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: the federal funding freeze. That's one of the big conversations, 290 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: Like what they try. They're trying to gaslight. Everybody's like, no, 291 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: we didn't say that. I don't know who did that. 292 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: That was. 293 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: That was just back out. The government is trying to 294 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: gaslight us at the thinking that we made that up. 295 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: Yep. You know where I saw this play out on 296 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: next door of all places, huge fight broke out of 297 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: people being like that's not what happened, and other people 298 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: be like, yes it is. It's like whoa gosh. 299 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: Wow, wow exactly. The conversation is like wow. 300 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: But with all of that, I think we need to 301 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: remember what this is about again. Like I said, this 302 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: is partially me hashing it out in myself because I've 303 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: been so overwhelmed and wanted to give up. 304 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: But we can't. 305 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially those who are not black women who 306 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: again are like I'm we're done. We're gonna take a 307 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: break rightly. So we have to have this conversation. We 308 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: have to pick it back up. And when I say 309 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: that about black women, they're not. They want to say 310 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: that out loud, but they, as people who have been 311 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: at the front of these fights, would like to say that, 312 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: but we know they don't. 313 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: We wish they could take a break. 314 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're the unfortunately, the ones that understand the 315 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: most about what is happening. And we're at the price 316 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: the pay. So I know it's a lot. And thank 317 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: you for hanging there with me and Annie. If you 318 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: have thoughts about this, please send us messages. 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