1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets podcast. Eric own here at 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: one Jets Drive and I brought jadusible all the way 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: up from South Florida. How does it feel to be 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: back in your old environment. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: It's great. You know. It's started getting a little warm 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: in South. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: Florida, Ea, and I like warm weather, but I don't 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: like it being this warm this early in April. So 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: to get a nice little fifty sixty degree weather. Heard 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: it's supposed to get up to seventy today. It feels 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: good to be back. 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Home, all right, So you have a full day of 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: taping here inside the studio Audi Performance Studio. Do you 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: get nostalgic driving back into the facility? It's like one 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: of the first things you said to me in the 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: car this morning was players are back next week, aren't they? 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: Hey? You just get that feel, man. 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: Matter of fact, When I landed last night, Ea, I 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: called my mom and was like, Yo, I'm in Jersey, 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: and she I didn't tell I was coming here. 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: It's like, what are you doing here? You know, I'm 22 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: shooting some stuff with the Jets. 23 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: When I got Ea, and I just got that feel, 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: you know, just riding down the road from the Newark 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: airport back, you know, towards the facility. I stayed not 26 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: too far from the facility last night, and, like you said, 27 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: the first question I asked you was like, hey, I 28 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: think the fellas are back in town next week. 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: Right. 30 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: You get that feel, even when you retired, you still 31 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: get that feel. You know, it's time to get back 32 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: to work. 33 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of exciting things going on here with 34 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: the Jets in the entire organization. The draft now is 35 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: about what two weeks away? Two weeks away, we're here 36 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: here Tuesday. 37 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're here. 38 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: It's crazy April twenty fifth or twenty seventh. So we've 39 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: kind of done a roster reset in the past, yep. 40 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: Where the Jets are after the league year, and how 41 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: many moves Joe Douglas made and free agency via trade 42 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: and resigning his own players. Where I wanted to start 43 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: today was the trade chart. Okay, Like I want to 44 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: read off some numbers to you. Get my glasses out 45 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: here for those listening. You don't, you don't got to 46 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: worry about this. But depending on what trade chart you 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: go to, the Jets, round one pick is worth thirteen 48 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: hundred points. Just to give some background here, dudes, the 49 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: Jets obviously don't have that second round pick. So you 50 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: go to round three, that's number seventy two overall, that's 51 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty points. Round four, their first pick 52 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: seventy two points. Round four, second pick thirty eight and 53 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: a half points, Round six, seventeen point four, Round seven 54 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: to one, Round seven, mister irrelevant, one pick. So draft capital, 55 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: as far as a couple of the trade draft value 56 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: charts out there right now, stands at sixteen hundred fifty 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: nine points. The reason why I bring that up is 58 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: so we go back and say the Jets thirteen hundred 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: points with that tenth overall. 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: This is crazy to say the rest of the totality 61 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: is only like three hundred more point. 62 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't like that. You don't like that as 63 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: a four round drafted free agent. 64 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a crazy drop off. 65 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: So you're saying the first round pick what I get 66 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: is worth thirteen because it's the top ten pick. Then 67 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: the rest of the six picks in totality are only 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: worth three hundred Yeah right, goodness great. 69 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: So for comparison's sake, Chicago holds the number one overall selection. 70 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: Take a stab what that number one overall selection? 71 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: Two thousand, three thousand. The math isn't Matthew, isn't Mathew. 72 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: You don't like this. 73 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: I don't like this at all. 74 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: You don't like this chart, and I. 75 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: Get it number one overall. 76 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: Like, that's in a different strategy, right, You would probably 77 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 3: even say top five picks are in a different strategy there, 78 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: but literally to be double a top ten pick, yes, 79 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: like that's crazy. 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, goodness gracious. 81 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: So this is why we start the conversation here. Annie scenario. 82 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: If you're Joe Douglas, do you move up? You don't 83 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: have a second round pick, Yeah, we just talked about it. 84 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: You go to the third, you got two and a fourth. 85 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Those are valuable picks. You got a couple in the 86 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: seventh as well, correct. I mean to me, those are 87 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: just flyers. But let's just start there in the first round. 88 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: Any scenario, to me, it only makes sense. 89 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: And this is if the board depending on how it 90 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: plays out, right, Yeah, say one of the top three receivers, 91 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: two of them are gone by pick seven. Yes, I'd 92 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 3: be picking up the phone calling Chicago at nine or 93 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: maybe even Atlanta at eight to see what it would 94 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: take to move up one or two spots. 95 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: And depending on the chart that we just went over. 96 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: You probably have to give up some future picks from 97 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: next year, because, like you said, as far as the 98 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: Jets having the draft capital to potentially move up this year, 99 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: it's going to be extremely tough. Now, you would assume 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: that third round pick is already going to have to 101 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: be part of that package, right, and then what else 102 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: would you have to throw in there? Maybe a fourth 103 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: and maybe a third from next year. It just depends 104 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: on what the part the point chart says. So if 105 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: you're Joe Douglas, I mean, it's really interesting, right because 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: there's so many scenarios here that you can go to. 107 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: But that's the only scenario I'll see where he maybe 108 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: thinks about it, right, depending on you know, Atlanta Chicago 109 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: eight to nine, Right, you don't think Atlanta's going to 110 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: take a receiver, most likely going to take an edge 111 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: guy because they have three receivers already. They did a 112 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: really good job of for to fying that roster this offseason. 113 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: So you call it Atlanta, you call Chicago, who could 114 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: be in the need for a receiver, so they may 115 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: not even pick up your phone call. But that's the 116 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: only scenario I see. If by pick seven, two of 117 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: the top three receivers are gone. 118 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: You said Atlanta, yep. Are they the first team in 119 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four draft that takes a defensive player? 120 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: I believe so. 121 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: When you got Raheem Morris coming over from LA defensive 122 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: minded coach, he's been synonymous with having guys being able 123 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 3: to get to the quarterback. Right now, they have Arnold 124 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: Bucatio on one side, who took a second year growth 125 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: last year, but they need to add somebody next time. 126 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: I think a guy like Dallas Turner or Jared Versus 127 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: makes too much sense to really build that defense around. 128 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: You still got Gary Grady Jarrett inside and David Anyamato, 129 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: who are really good defensive tackles, but they need some edge. 130 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: You need a consistent guy that can get to the quarterback. 131 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: So I think at pick number eight, that would be 132 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: the first time that a team takes a defensive player, 133 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: and it's going to be the Atlanta Falcons. 134 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: Speaking of trades, do you think anybody moves off at three, four, five, 135 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: starting with the Patriots? So you say that, hey, they 136 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: got Jakobe Brissett. He pens some themen as a starter 137 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: in year one. It's a perfect situation. 138 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: You take a quarterback and that's the team to me. 139 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know people are talking about the Arizona Cardinals 140 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: being in a sweet spot at the number four spot 141 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: because they have Kyler Murray as a quarterback, so they 142 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: could trade back. But to me, it's the New England Patriots, 143 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: especially if the draft goes Caleb Williams and then goes 144 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels. Could the Patriots, if they're not in love 145 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: with Drake may or JJ McCarthy decide, you know, we 146 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: have so many holes on this roster, let's get at 147 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: King's ransom to move back. And most presumably it's probably 148 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: going to be the Minnesota Vikings who have I believe 149 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: pick eleven and twenty three if I'm not mistaken, and 150 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: they probably get some draft capital for next year's draft 151 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: as well. If you pay, could you gain an extra 152 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: first round pick this year and some other picks to 153 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: really fill that hole and maybe even take a fire 154 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: at a quarterback in the second round, whether it's Bow 155 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: Knicks or Spencer Rattler, because like you said, they have 156 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett, who I believe can be a starter in 157 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: this league and has proved every time people a team 158 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 3: has called upon him. He's been able to play adequate 159 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: football and get you in a winning situation. 160 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Arizona, that four you see them going receiver? Is that 161 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: the first team that takes a receiver. 162 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, they lost all their receivers. No way, they're not 163 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: leaving the first round without a receiver. When you talk 164 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: about Hollywood Brown, you know going to the Kansas City 165 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: Chiefs and then Rondelle Moore being traded to the Atlanta Falcons. 166 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: So you got to give Carlin Murray some help on 167 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: that side of the ball. You gotta give him a 168 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: big time receiver. I think it'd be hard press for 169 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals to move back just because you can 170 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: get a guy like Marvin Harrison Junior. And if you 171 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: do trade out of that number four spot and you 172 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: get to eleven, you're missing out on the top three. 173 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: So if you're that regime, you're Manti awsome for it right, 174 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: and you have Kyler Murray, You're gonna build the team 175 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: around him. You got to get him a number one playmaker. 176 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: So I don't think the Arizona Cardinals we'll move out 177 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: of the number four spot. That's why I think it's interesting. 178 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 3: Depending on how the draft falls. I think New England 179 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: could be a team that potentially moves back. 180 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Chargers five Watson Winn is the line of scrimmage, 181 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: but you see receiver here as well, because there's been 182 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: a lot of movement in that position. Mike Williams resides 183 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: here in Florence Park, and you got Keenan Allen now 184 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: suiting up for the Bears, which sounds. 185 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: Very weird to say, Yeah, that sounds a lot. It 186 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: sounds really weird. 187 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: But a what we'll learn and what we've learned throughout 188 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: the past year is that its smoke screen season right 189 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 3: around this time. It's always about a month before the draft, 190 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: maybe even a few weeks. And I remember, you know, 191 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: Jim Hallball, I think it was at the owners meetings 192 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: coming out and said you got to build through the 193 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. Right now, they have an all world 194 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: left tackle already. My thing is if you take Joe 195 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: Alt there and you move him the right, is that 196 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: going to really bode well? And if you look at 197 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: the you know Chargers current receiving room, right, it's been 198 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 3: goody you talked about it. Mike Williams is here, Keenan 199 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: Allen is it with the Chicago Bears. They did take 200 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: Quinton Johnston last year in the first round, so you 201 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: hope he takes a elape too. But you still have 202 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: one of the most gifted quarterbacks in the lead, and 203 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, you have to get him a number one receiver. 204 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: Even if Quentin Johnson does get that, you know, second 205 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: year growth, you still need to pair him with somebody. 206 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: We know Jim Harball wants to be physical with the 207 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and run the football, but you gotta 208 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: have viable receivers for your big time quarterback. 209 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: All right, So you think New England could move out, 210 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: you think probably Arizona stays. Chargers probably stay. Yeah, Giants, ooh, Giants, 211 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: dependent on what they think at the quarterback position. They 212 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: could use a receiver as well. Yeah, okay, and then 213 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: we go to Tennessee because I want to talk about 214 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: all these teams that potentially have an impact on the 215 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: Jets and the positions that really would make a fit 216 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: for Yeah. 217 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: So when you look at the Giants, like you said, 218 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: they still need ain't number one receiver, but there's rumors 219 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: that they could be in the quarterback market, right because 220 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: let's not forget Joe Shane and Brian day Ball. They 221 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: didn't take Daniel Jones, right, they kind of adopted him, 222 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: just to use words, they adopted him right. 223 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: And every GM and. 224 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: Head coach wants to be able to pick their quarterback 225 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: of the future right and be stuck with their quarterback 226 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: because that's usually how you either keep your job or 227 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: lose your job, depending on the quarterback position. So they're 228 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: at a really good spot at six where they could 229 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: take a quarterback if they do like JJ McCarthy or 230 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: saying Drake May's there, or Minnesota ends up trading with 231 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: New England to get Drake May, then you may not 232 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: even have to trade up to get JJ McCarthy if 233 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: that's who you want. But if not, right, if they 234 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: decide to go with Danie Jones and maybe take a 235 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 3: quarterback filler in the second round, then this is where 236 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: it gets interesting for the Jets, right, because we just 237 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: talked about, you know, there is on the Connors maybe 238 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: staying pat taking Marvin Harrison junior. 239 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: Then you would assume the Chargers take Elikue. 240 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: Neighbors, So could it be receiver receiver receiver at four, 241 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,119 Speaker 3: five and six, That's where it gets really interesting. 242 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: For the Jets. 243 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: And that's why I just think every year going into 244 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: the drivet, everybody thinks they know, but nobody has. 245 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: Nobody has an idea of what's going to happen. 246 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: But you started this conversation off by saying talking about receivers, 247 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: you're not talking about tackles. 248 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: That that's that said something, right, because people people who 249 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: have been saying this is a generational type tackle class, 250 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: and I think it is. But I think that's another 251 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: reason why teams will be more comfortable taking a tackle 252 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: in the second round, because there's gonna be some guys 253 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: that most likely fall because you got to think in 254 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: the teams, there's gonna be some defensive backs. I got 255 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: in my my mock drive at least five cornerbacks going 256 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: in the first round, right, So you look at that, 257 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: you got the offensive tackles and this is a really 258 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: good receiver group. 259 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: But after the top. 260 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: Three there's a off and Brian Thomas is almost in 261 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: that tier. He's not in that tier yet, but then 262 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: even after him, there's a massive drop off again. 263 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: So his numbers were crazy, like, oh, they were insane. 264 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: A guy that can really stretch the field can go 265 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: up and get the fifty to fifty jump off. 266 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: He's a weapon in the red zone. And I think 267 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: it's he's just coming into his own. I think he's 268 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: gonna be a better pro, which is crazy to say 269 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: what you talk about the numbers that. 270 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: He had a seventeen receivers last touchdowns like Danielsmon Neighbors, 271 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 272 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: So like, I think he's gonna only get better because 273 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: last year was this really first productive year in college football. 274 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: So he's just coming into his own. 275 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: So he's not at where the top three guys are 276 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: when you talk about you know, Harrison Junior, Molik Neighbors, 277 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: and Roman Doonze, but he's right under him. And then 278 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: I think there's a separation between him and like Ady Mitchell, 279 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy, and I guess you could even throw Xavier Legett, 280 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: Lamb McConkie and then also Keyon Coleman in that group 281 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: as well. 282 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: I think Tennessee's fascinating to me from a jet's perspective, 283 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: just because Bill Callahan is one of the best offensive 284 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: line coaches in the history of the National Football League. 285 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna tell me a lot what they think about 286 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line class, for sure, but by where they go, yeah, 287 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: and potentially Tennessee is a team. I know they spent 288 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: some money in certain places this year Calvin Ridley, but 289 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: at the same time they feel like a team of transition. 290 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: So I wonder if they move out. And I'm wondering 291 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: who's on the board there for the Jets at ten. 292 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: My thing is if Joe Autz there at seven, I 293 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: don't think they would have got that in their wildest dream. 294 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: I think they're running that card. They need a left tackle. 295 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: They swung the miss with Andre Diller last year, yes, 296 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: and kudos I ran Cartin by not, you know, compounding 297 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: that mistaken and keeping keeping him on the roster. But 298 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 3: if Joe All, I think Aolu Shanu are there, I 299 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: think they're running that cart in honestly, because they need 300 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 3: a left tackle. Petit Frairier can play right tackle as well. 301 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't have to be your left tackle. And then 302 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: I think they're solid because they took Peter Skorwaranski at 303 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: guard last year or so. You talk about getting a 304 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: blue chip guy at pick number seven, where you thought 305 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: potentially maybe both of those guys could be gone. Now 306 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: it looks like one of the two, or maybe even 307 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 3: both will be there at seven. 308 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: Chicago feels like a wild card and a lot of 309 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: people are saying, wow, receiver, but you're talking about scenarios 310 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: where receivers could go early those exactly, So what is 311 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Chicago going to do? Are they possible trade out candidate? 312 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: And then we get back to the Jets again and say, so, 313 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at the top ten, how early is 314 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: it realistic for the Jets to move up to That's 315 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: that's what far's the number? 316 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why I said, depending on what happens 317 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: in the first seven picks. When you get to Tennessee 318 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: and they don't take a receiver and there's only one left, 319 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: that's why I think you start getting on the phone calls, 320 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: potentially calling the Atlanta Falcons, who you assume it is 321 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: going to take a defensive guy. 322 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: So sevenrect seven, eight, nine, I think seven is going 323 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: to be too rich to move up. 324 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: And honestly, I don't think Tennessee moves out of that 325 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: spot because they'll be able to get the tackle that 326 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: they want in this draft if it pans out the 327 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: way we just talked about, or even if they don't 328 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: get being able to get Joe All say he does 329 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: go to the Chargers. 330 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: You got Olu still there at. 331 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: Pick number seven as well as you can really build 332 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: your offensive line around, So I don't think they'll move 333 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: out of that spot. But when you get to eight 334 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: and nine the Atlanta Falcons, you assume is gonna are 335 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: going to take a defensive guy right to put on 336 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: the edge. And then if I'm the Chicago Bears and 337 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: this is not me just being a Jets guy, you 338 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: do have Keenan Allen, right, you have co Comet, you 339 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: signed Everett in the offseason. You still have a number 340 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: one receiver and Dj Moore Yeah right, So like I 341 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: know a lot of people saying they could take another receiver, 342 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: but I'm like, you have a treat Like Dj Moore 343 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: is a number one receiver. 344 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: And he proved it last year there too. 345 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So like to me, we saw how Montest Sweat 346 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: transformed this defense. Just imagine if you put somebody on 347 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: the opposite side of him, where now you can't just 348 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: double Montest? What in the Chicago Bears had the number 349 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: one defense the last six weeks of the season, right, 350 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: number one scoring defense, number one interceptions and number one 351 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: and rushing touchdowns giving up So I think defense just 352 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. Ebra Flus, another defensive minded coach, 353 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: really wants to lock in and hone in and solidify 354 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: that defense. 355 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: With another edge guy. 356 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: I think Chicago it could be edge edge, Atlanta, Atlanta 357 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: go edge, then Chicago go edge. 358 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: Is Olu there attend then? 359 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: So that's the question, right if he is there at 360 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: ten depending on what the Chargers I think chargers to 361 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: me are, the is the biggest wildcard because they could 362 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: take Olne, they could take receiver. 363 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: That'll determine the rest. 364 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: Of the top five picks right in how they kind 365 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: of fall. So when you look at it, could Rome 366 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: be there, could Olu be there? If Rome isn't there 367 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: and Olu's there, this is the scenario that we talked about, right. 368 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: He is a scenario where because Olu Forshano probably has 369 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: the highest upside fashion for sha has the highest upside 370 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: of tackle, do you take him even though this could 371 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: be like a red shirt year for him because if 372 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: Tymn Smith and also if Borg and Moses are healthy, 373 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: even though he went top ten, are you throwing them 374 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: in there in front of them? 375 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: No? 376 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: But that's the thing. 377 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: So it's just like it doesn't essentially help the Jets now, 378 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 3: but it does help them in the future. Or is 379 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: this a scenario where you're like, you know what, we 380 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: still like to lease Fuaga. There's still Fatinu out there 381 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: as well. Do we trade back, get some draft capital 382 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: and potentially get another second round pick that we don't 383 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: have right now in this year's draft. 384 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people haven't talked about 385 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: the prospect he just brought up as Fatano from Washington 386 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: left tackle. 387 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: Now he's in the conversation now. 388 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: Nasty brings a versatility. Yeah, okay, so let's go through 389 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: the tackles look kind of like a rapid fire. You 390 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: don't think all it will be there a ton. I 391 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: don't think you think Tennessee makes the most sense. With 392 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: that being said, he's a highest floor as far as 393 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: tackles or ault No. 394 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: Has the highest you know. 395 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: Highest ceiling, but the highest floor for alt I'm. 396 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: Saying, yeah, yeah, right now, for sure, he's probably he's 397 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: the most game ready to play right now, right yeah. 398 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: And he's the guy you figure that he's gonna be 399 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: playing ten years correct as a starter. 400 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: Left tackles six ' eight, moves well, able to move 401 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: guys off the line of scrimmage. My only concern with 402 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: him is that Ford Leani has in his past set 403 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: at Notre Dame. When you look at his film, there 404 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of speed rushers he technically played against. 405 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: You know, in the league, guys like a Son Radick 406 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: are burning the ad. So that Ford lean and it 407 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: gave a lot of people. Can't compare him to Mike mcglitchey. 408 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: That gave mcglitchy issues at San fran as well, So 409 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: that would be my only concern. But as far as 410 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: getting a guy that can play from day one, Joe 411 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: Alden is the guy professional highest ceiling not even closed. 412 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: Only twenty one years old. Yeah, he's still a young pup. 413 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: You knowbody reminds me of a lot a guy that 414 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: played here for a lot of years. The British offers right, 415 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 3: great positional blocker, does a good job finishing That armlength 416 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: is ridiculous. 417 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: It just keeps guys at bay. 418 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: And people were saying, you know that Ohio State film 419 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: kind of worried them. It didn't really worry me. Like 420 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: people were saying he got beat with some power, but 421 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: he didn't give anything up though, Like, yes, there was 422 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: some some reps that you would like to have back, 423 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: but I love his recovery skills. And again he's still 424 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: so young. Like I said, the ceilings not even there yet. 425 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: To me, he has the highest upside. 426 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: And then him being an honor study to Tyrone Smith. 427 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: Makes a lot of sense. Now. I know Jet Nation would, but. 428 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: You want a media contributor in twenty twenty four. 429 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: But that's the thing, like, sometimes when you're in that scenario, 430 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: you gotta go best player available, because it's about the 431 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: longevity of the team, right and having that sustaining success 432 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 3: going forward. And I know a lot of people will 433 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: probably gruff because you'll be like, well, why not take 434 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: Troy Fotanu or trade back and get a guy as 435 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: or that it could slide into God or to least 436 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: Fuaga a guy that's versustil and could slide in. But 437 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: just imagine having your left tackle for the next eleven 438 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 3: to fifteen years. Yeah, Like, if you want to have 439 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: sustained success, sometimes you gotta go best player available, right, 440 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: So if oulu fashion New falls to you, you have 441 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: to really consider it. Even though this could be a 442 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: retro year where he probably only spot starts for four 443 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 3: or five games, you gotta think about the future of the. 444 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: Jets of Fuaga. Oh nasty, just nasty. EA. 445 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 3: Like if you turn on that first game clip versus 446 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: Washington State literally decapitates the off off the ball linebacker. 447 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: You talk about athletic ability, and people were saying he 448 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: could slide in. I think he could just stay at 449 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: left tackle, and I know we're gonna talk about another guy, Yeah, 450 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: another guy Troy fontonknew, but talking about Fuaga, like, you're 451 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 3: gonna get that nastiness out of him, and you saw 452 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: it up the Singer Bowl. Like he's just he's never 453 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: in a hurry in his past set, right, He's comfortable 454 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 3: and his pass set isn't passive EA, Like people talk 455 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: about past that is being passive. 456 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: No, his passet is aggressive. He puts hands on guys. 457 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 3: So you talk about bringing a nasty attitude to your 458 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: your team in locker room, that's what That's what, uh 459 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: you know to least Waga does. 460 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: We talked about the Washington prospect, Troy yeah, yeah, So 461 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: why have I feel like the noise is starting to 462 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: pick up on him, But I don't know why he's 463 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: even kind of like out there. You're like, we've been 464 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: talking about for a while. 465 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I didn't get it. I think I think 466 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: me and Daniel J. Myer, I don't want to say 467 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: one of the first few people on him as far 468 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: as him going high in the first. 469 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: Round, but everybody was talking about this dude moving to guard. 470 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, did y'all not watch the film? Like the 471 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: athletic ability is out of this world, his recovery is 472 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: out of this world. 473 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: And ea I remember vividly in the. 474 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: Michigan game the College Football Playoffs on a screenplay, you 475 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: saw him get out and literally just to capitate a safety, 476 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: which I don't think people don't understand. When you're three 477 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: hund and ten pounds moving in space trying to block 478 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: a little guy, it's extremely hard. Not only did he 479 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: block him, he put him on his neck. 480 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 481 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: So like people saying that this guy could move into guard, No, 482 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: keep him at tackle. Now, the thing is, with his versatility, 483 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: you have that luxury to move him inside. 484 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: Believe that dude in left tackle. 485 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: It's rare that you find somebody with that type of 486 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: footwork and athletic ability to have the nastiness to finish, 487 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: but also gives you the versatility to move inside. So 488 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: I would take him at left tackle, but if you 489 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: need him to move inside, I think he could be 490 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: a really good guard as well too. 491 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: Too rich at ten, depending on the situation, I think you. 492 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: Could probably move back a few spots and get him 493 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: many teens. Yeah. 494 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: My thing is if you have an opportunity to draft 495 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: or get some draft capital, why not. But then, like 496 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, we never know. I really loved Darnall Wright. 497 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: I didn't think he was going top ten though, so 498 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 3: you just never know. 499 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Latham and Mems mems very interesting prospect because only games 500 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: that by definition is a project. 501 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: Project for sure. That's why I think back in the 502 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: first round San Francisco makes a lot of sense to me. 503 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 3: Uh they just you know, restruct that restructure, but gave 504 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: an extension to their right tackle, Colten mckimwick's. He could 505 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: stay behind him for a year and learn. He's one 506 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: of those guys, Hea, He's the guy that you want 507 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 3: walking off the bus first right. He looks like a 508 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: created player, talk about being like six eight, three hundred 509 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: and forty pounds, but doesn't look three forty. Looks like 510 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: he's too eighty, So a lot to steal gain from him. 511 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: Excuse me just because, like you said, only eight starts 512 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: so far. But the natural athletic ability is there. The 513 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: ability to get out and open space at three forty 514 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: is ridiculous. 515 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: And J C. 516 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: Latham nobody puts hands on people better than jac Latham 517 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 3: talk about he is a body mover. He moves you 518 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: against your will. Just go watch that Michigan game and 519 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: see what he did to Chris Jenkins. It was tough 520 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: sledding for the young defensive. 521 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: Tackle out there. And then and passport. 522 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: The only thing that gives me some concerns is some 523 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: change direction issues, especially when defensive linement are running pass 524 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: rush games. He has some issues there, but I think 525 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: that's more communication. I think he's athletic enough, and I've 526 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: seen him be athletic enough to be able to keep 527 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: rushers at bay. 528 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: And sometimes it looks like he's not even trying out 529 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: there on the field. 530 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: So I know guys were highed on him coming into 531 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 3: the season. Seems like some of it is tailed off, 532 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: but again we truly never know it. Allly takes us 533 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: one team to be extremely. 534 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 2: Happy with you. 535 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: Like I said last year, darn right being a right tackle, 536 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: I didn't see him going in the top ten, even 537 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: though I really loved this film, just because people always 538 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 3: talk about left tackle vers right tackle. I think we're 539 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: in NFL today where there's equal value in both. I 540 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: don't think teams look at one guy and say, you know, 541 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: we need a better left tackle than right tackle. I 542 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: just think they need somebody that can protect and play 543 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: at a high level. And we saw darn Darnall Wright 544 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: do that at Tennessee, took him to the number ten pick. 545 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: Could that same thing happen with JC Latham? 546 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: A lot of dudes in National Football League firing off 547 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: the ball from that left edge spot. So yes, right 548 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: tackle very valuable. How many tackles go on the first round? 549 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: Are you of the belief like money out there that 550 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: we could see seven. 551 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: Six, maybe seven? 552 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: When you look at Joe aall fashion U for Tanu 553 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: to lease fu Waga Mims, I think Tyler Geiden, yeah, 554 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: maybe gets in there as well. And then there's a 555 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: there's another guy, did you have a part of that? 556 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: They see Latham at seven, could we get eight? Jordan 557 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: Morgan is another guy from the University of Arizona left tackle. 558 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: I think back of the first round when you look 559 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: at Pig thirty two. Now we know there's some things 560 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: going on with Kansas City and there receiving core right now, 561 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 3: could they go receiver? Could they go offensive tackle because 562 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: they need a left tackle now. Yange Morris played some 563 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: good reps for them last year but struggled at times 564 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: as well. 565 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: They left. 566 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: You know, Donovan Smith has gone in free agency. Could 567 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: they go Jordan Morgan there and potentially show up that 568 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: left side for the best player in the NFL and 569 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes or do they look at receiver. 570 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: There specifically getting back to the Jets. For you, it 571 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: would be two guys that you consider a toen right, 572 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: it would be Olu or Alt. You don't think all 573 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be there. 574 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: Olu could be just specifically tackled. 575 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, specifically tackle for you at ten. Now you 576 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: consider other dudes if you move back, no doubt. I mean, 577 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: man so would be tough. It'd be in a conversation, 578 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: would include him in that mix. 579 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: I would put him in the conversation. 580 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 3: The only thing is, again, if I'm Joe d if 581 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: I could move back a couple of spots and still 582 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 3: get him and get draft capital. But I think, just 583 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: like teams are gonna get nervous with that quarterback run. 584 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: I think teams are gonna get nervous with that tackle run. 585 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: You could potentially teams start to move up to get tackles. 586 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: Yes, because if you wanted him, you don't want to 587 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: move back to two three spots. 588 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: I think like the Saints are most likely both of 589 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: their tackles are Ryan Ramcheck might not play this year, 590 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: and then Trevor Penning really struggles, So you know they're 591 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: gonna probably take a tackle Denver probably not. They probably 592 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: need a playmaker, they need a quarterback, but I think 593 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 3: they're not gonna be able to move up to how 594 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: to get one. 595 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: So you just never done. 596 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: All right, We're done with tackle talk. Let's get back 597 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: to receivers because here is the critical point today's draft 598 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: podcast from a New York Jets perspective, Lejay Dosible, What 599 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: is a bigger need for the Jets in twenty twenty 600 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: four and beyond wide receiver or tackle? Mike Williams coming 601 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: off in ACL Yeah, one of the best vertical threats 602 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. No doubt they're gonna have 603 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: a great plan in place for him. Tyron Smith played 604 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: about seventy three percent of snaps last year in Dallas, 605 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: thirteen games, all Pro player Morgan Moses coming off with 606 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: torn pack and you said surgery as well. Both those 607 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: guys thirty three. All those guys have contracts that expire 608 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: correct at that end of the season. So Lejay figg 609 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: your need for the Jets. 610 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: It's a receiver. To me, there's no way even with 611 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: Mike Williams signing. 612 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: You said coming off in ACL as well, you just 613 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: never know how those are gonna respond. There's no way 614 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson can go out there by himself again after 615 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: what he went through last year, even with Aaron Rodgers 616 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: at quarterback, and you talked about it, if you get 617 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: a receiver in the top ten, if the draft were 618 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: to fall the way it falls for the Jets, then. 619 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: You're talking about not having to rush on Mike Williams back. Right. 620 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: That gives you time where he can really rehab and 621 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: not go out there until he's truly comfortable. 622 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: And you know, I brought up a guy Roma Dunes. 623 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: I think if it's perfectly for the Jets, just because 624 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: it'll allow them to stick Garrett Wilson in the slot 625 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: a lot more and he won't have to have that 626 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: safety over the top because with Rome's catch rate is 627 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 3: and his ability to go up and get the ball 628 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 3: and it's not fifty to fifty, it's more seventy thirty 629 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: when he comes down with the ball. Kind of reminds me, 630 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: I know, people probably get me crazy and Larry Fitzgerald 631 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: in that manner as far as being able to come 632 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: down with those contested catches, his suddenness at the line 633 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: of scrimmage, and he can line up all up and 634 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: down as far as lining up in the slot, lining 635 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: up at you know, outside, and he can run every 636 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: route and his win rate is ridiculous on every route 637 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: in the route tree. So it just makes too much sense. 638 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 3: It just depends on how the draft board falls. 639 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: He is what makes Marvin Harrison Junior unique and also 640 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: should we even waste our time talking about him, because 641 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: in all due respect to Marvin Harrison, you're going to 642 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: have to give up what a king's ransom for sure, 643 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: I think. 644 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: So, okay, Yeah, when you look at Marvin Harrison, he 645 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: just does everything really well. Great body control as far 646 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: as being able to separate at the top of the 647 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: route and go up and get the ball with great 648 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: body control, as well. He could take slants the distance, right. 649 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: He's a strong receiver, just us everything really well. He's 650 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: probably the most polished guy, which makes sense just knowing 651 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: his dad, right, it's the most polished guy. I don't 652 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: think it makes sense to trade up just because when 653 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: you look at all three of the top guys Harrison Junior, 654 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: Eleak Neighbors, and Romandoneza, Like, I don't know if there's 655 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: that much difference now, they're different games for sure. It's 656 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: all about the flavor that you want. Nobody has the 657 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: better stop and start than Elaite Neighbors. He's a big 658 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: play waiting to happen. He literally could take a curl route, 659 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: which is like a six or seven yard route eighty 660 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: yards right, Like, he has that get up speed. He 661 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: kind of reminds me of I'm not talking about the player, 662 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: but as far as this aspect Deebo Samuel. As far 663 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: as the get up to zero to sixty, nobody does 664 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: it quicker than Elak Neighbors. Right, So if you want 665 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: that type of explosive play, it kind of reminds me 666 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: of DJ Moore in that aspect as well. So again, 667 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: like when people were talking about Chicago and I don't 668 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: think my Lage Neighbors is going to fall to number nine, 669 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: But if he were there, that wouldn't make sense to 670 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: me because him and DJ Moore are similar players and aspect. 671 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: And then I just talked about what I felt about 672 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: Roman Dunsay. I think he can run every route, his 673 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: suddenness at the line of scrimmage to get open. 674 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's talked about enough. 675 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: I heard one scouts say that that kind of reminds 676 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: them them of the Vonte Adams in the way he's 677 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: able to get separation at the line of scrimmage right, 678 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: and people were saying he doesn't really separate. I'm like, 679 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: what film are you watching? Like, yeah, literally, the out 680 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: and up versus Boise State literally left the dB like 681 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: seven yards behind him, like what he did versus the 682 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: University of Texas where there's going to be multiple first 683 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: round picks in that game. He was clearly the best 684 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: player on the field that day. So again, it's all 685 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: about flavor. I don't think there's like major differences as 686 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: far as h what their skill set or what their. 687 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 2: Ceilings could be in the NFL. 688 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: When you talk about Roma Donsay, Eligue Neighbors and Marvin 689 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: Harrison Junior. 690 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: But I think Rome is going to be the best 691 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: one when it said it. 692 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: Done, which is saying a lot because there's a lot 693 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: of people think those other guys are gonna be stars 694 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: as well. All right, so you love Rome? Yeah, Okay, 695 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: let's just say Joe Douglas makes the trades on April, 696 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: makes the calls on April twenty fifth potential moving off 697 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Those three receivers are off the board. How 698 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: big of a gap is it from whoever your third 699 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: rank receiver in that category is, which for you, I 700 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: don't even know who your third would be because he 701 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: just said you love Yeah, yeah. 702 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: Well he's one of the top three, right right, So 703 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: if all three are gone, you're saying, who's the next guy? 704 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 705 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: No, I I just thought to myself too when we're 706 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: talking about Marvin Neighbors in Rome, you love them all. 707 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: It's almost like you love them all he will even 708 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: though you think. 709 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: That Rome a little bit above har like right now? 710 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, So how big of a gap does 711 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: it go from whoever that third taking off the board 712 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: is to I think we're having consensus now that might 713 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas might be number on. 714 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: I don't even think it's consistent. I think every team 715 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: in the NFL feels the same way. I think he's 716 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: gonna go a lot higher than people originally thought he 717 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: would go. And when you talk about tiers, yeah, those 718 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: guys are Tier one. I think Brian Thomas, just because 719 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: of the upside, is a Tier one point five. 720 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: I don't think he's actually in Tier two. 721 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: When you talk about the speed element, think he ran 722 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: what four to three to three at the combine and 723 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: you see it on tape and literally run by guys, 724 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: but he actually is a pretty good route runner on 725 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: dig routes and drag routes as well. 726 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: And then you talked about it seventeen touchdowns. 727 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: What he does with his body in the red zone 728 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: to contort his body and go up and get the 729 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: ball at his highest point, that's where he kind of 730 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: separates himself for the rest of the pack, not the 731 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: top three guys, but the rest of the pack. That's 732 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: why it's like it's not Tier two for him, He's 733 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: like Tier one point five. I think teams are starting 734 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: to feel that too, and especially if three of the 735 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: receivers going in the top ten. Could a team like 736 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills get Anty and try to move up 737 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: to get them because they feel like there's probably a 738 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: drop off between him and the Lab mcconkey's, Xavier Lagets 739 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: the you know, a d Mitchell's. 740 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: Maybe. 741 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: What do you think of mcconkee. 742 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: I love him. I think he's gonna go in the 743 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: back of the first in. 744 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: Ky is a team that makes too much sense for 745 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: him to be there exactly. So, probably the best purest 746 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 3: route runner in this draft, without a doubt. And I 747 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: knew we had as we were saying in the locker room, 748 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 3: he's got some get up about him. Yeah, I didn't 749 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: know he was that fast though. The funny thing is 750 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 3: when you put just his numbers from the combine and 751 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: hype weight and everything on the board, you know. 752 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: Who was comparable to No. Our number one receiver. 753 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: Here, Jarrett Wilson, really had the exact same numbers, which 754 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: is crazy, right. 755 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: So Yeah, I think Lab McConkie. 756 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: Like you're talking about round one prospect, Yeah. 757 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: I think he's a sleeper to go with the back 758 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 2: of the first round. 759 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: I think Kansas City is a team that, like I 760 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 3: was talking about earlier, could make some make a lot 761 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: of sense. 762 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: Lab McConkie had picked thirty two. 763 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: Loo get where do you staying with him? He's dangerous 764 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: after the catch yees, big, big receiver reminds me of 765 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of a Quincy Noonwhaha. 766 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: It's so good. I would say that Brandon Marshall. 767 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, big. 768 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 3: Physical receiver can go up and get the fifty to 769 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: fifty jump ball. Just turn on the North Carolina film 770 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 3: from week one. I mean him and Spencer Raller, even 771 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 3: though Ratler was under the rest that game, they were 772 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: putting in work versus North Carolina. He can run the 773 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: dig routes. Physical guy, hard to really bring down. I 774 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 3: think he should stay close to home early in the 775 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 3: second round. The Carolina Panthers make two months. Since they 776 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: have two second round picks, I think only seven picks 777 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 3: apart from each other. I think with their first pick 778 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 3: they should take Xavirieler to get and give Bryce Young 779 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 3: a number one receiver. Now, they did trade for Deontay Johnson, 780 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 3: but they don't have a receiver. That's kind of that's 781 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 3: like Xavirierler to get on their roster. 782 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: Where does dudes, we're gonna get back to the receiver 783 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: in just second. Stand on brock Bowers. 784 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: So very explosive weapon, right, I ain't gonna call him 785 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: a tity. He's a weapon on offense, one of the 786 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: most explosive weapons in football. We talked about body control earlier. 787 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 3: Just turn on at Auburn tape. He single handedly won 788 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 3: that game for Georgia because they were down, but when 789 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: he came out in the third quarter, he was unguardable 790 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 3: and he was tripled in double team. 791 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: And we talked about that. But your hierarchy is that 792 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: those three receivers, you're taking them in front of Bowers. 793 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: You are, But I'm saying, like, if those three are gone, 794 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: you're a ten trying to move back. As we talk 795 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: about the tackle position, which we know that still is 796 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: in need, you're gonna have to edit the tackle here 797 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: in the drafts to talk about developing in house as well, 798 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: and also you'd have to get receiver later. But where 799 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: do you stand on Bowers? 800 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, positional value is a real thing, right, I think 801 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: that's rich Etton, But he is somebody you probably do 802 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: consider just because he's that good of an offensive weapon, right, 803 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 3: He's gonna be able to create nightmares in the middle 804 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: of the field and down the scene for a safety 805 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: or linebacker trying to guard him one on one. And 806 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 3: I think is he is a willing blocker. I know 807 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 3: people kind of see him as like a flex out 808 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 3: tight end, but he's a willing blocker, like he'll get 809 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 3: in your way and try to get after you something 810 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 3: like even though he isn't the biggest body ever. But 811 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: excuse me, as far as explosive ability, there isn't a 812 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: tight end that has that what he has in this draft. 813 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 3: And I just think ten is a little rich for 814 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 3: me just because of the position of value. And then 815 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 3: you look at the tight end room for the Jets. 816 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 3: I love, you know, I love our tight end room, 817 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: Jets tight ends room. When you look at a guy 818 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 3: like Tyler Konklin, who all during camp add a real 819 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: rapport with Rogers and even with Zach Wilson, had a 820 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 3: really good report, especially down the scene. 821 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 2: And then Jeremy Rutger, I think is going. 822 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 3: To be a really good tight end, Like I think 823 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: he's going to be the future at that position, a 824 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: guy that will literally rip your face off in the 825 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 3: run game. And we saw that towards the back of 826 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: his rookie year, they started playing the more and we 827 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 3: saw him literally the cleading guys. And then last year, 828 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 3: especially after the cj Usama injury, and then they decided 829 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 3: to bench him like he played a lot more and 830 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 3: you saw the physicality of Jeremy Rutcker, and then Kenny 831 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 3: you BoA's a really good tight end as well as 832 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 3: a third guy. And then let's not forget they drafted 833 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 3: a guy last year and the seventh and Zach Kon. 834 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 3: So I think the Jets have a really deep tight 835 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 3: end room. So yes, could brock Bauers be generational and 836 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: a foundational piece, of course, but I just think at 837 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: pick number ten, that's just a little rich for a 838 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: tight end. 839 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 1: So it's a luxury pick there. 840 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 2: For sure. 841 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: You like him as a prospect, Let's be clear here. 842 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: I love him as a prospect actually, But. 843 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: For the Jets, you like what your room looks like, correct, 844 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: and you have more glaring needs elsewhere for sure, So 845 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: that's why you probably you as the GM probably don't 846 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: go in that dress. 847 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 3: I wouldn't just because again, positional value is a real thing, 848 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: even though people try to make it seem like it's not. 849 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: All right, we got on here on quarterbacks. Okay, Okay, 850 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: So we spent a lot of time talking about kay 851 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: Love and Drake and Jayden and JJ. Let's go beyond that, Okay. 852 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: Do the Jets need a development mental quarterback here in 853 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: the draft? 854 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: For sure? They do. 855 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 3: Okay, I think Day three makes a lot of sense 856 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: in the fourth round. And a guy that you know, 857 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 3: I have an affinity with, Michael Pratt. I mean, those 858 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: with so much touch can throw at all three levels 859 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: of the field. Now, doesn't have the biggest arm, right, 860 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 3: and struggle sometimes on throws down the field outside the numbers. 861 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 3: But you talk about being a leader, right, three time captain, 862 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 3: all he did was win at Twaine. Even after losing 863 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 3: Taj Spears and Doria Williams. He went back to the 864 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 3: American Conference championship with his main receiver, Jawan Jackson, missing 865 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 3: most of the season this year. Jawuan Jackson is probably 866 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: gonna be a third round pick this year, so without 867 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: him playing on the field, he still took his team 868 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 3: to the conference championship game. We saw what he did 869 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: for USC, and now again we know USC doesn't scare 870 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: you on defense, but he still put up a fifty 871 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 3: burger on them boys. So like Michael Pratt with the 872 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: intangibles of being a leader right the winning ways. I 873 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 3: think just makes a lot of sense for him to 874 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: come in in the fourth round behind a guy like 875 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor and Aaron Rodgers for two years and potentially 876 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 3: be the guy two years down the road. 877 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: How about a name that is very popular. 878 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 2: Joe Milton huh okay, and. 879 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: Listen, hey, listen, if I want to win a long 880 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: ball thrown competition, he is. He's a guy Jordan Travis, 881 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: Florida State. Yeah, coming off of devastating what does the 882 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: film show you? And would you take a flyer? Where? 883 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: Would where do you think he should go on this draft? 884 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: So when you look at Jordan Travis's film, to me, 885 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: he was the best quarterback in the ACC last year. 886 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 2: And I'm saying something with Drake May being a guy 887 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: that's probably gonna go top five right, Yes. 888 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 3: Too inconsistent with the accuracy. He's what I saw on film, 889 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 3: definitely a playmaker with his legs like and the crazy 890 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 3: thing is he's not even he's not even a big 891 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 3: I want to say he's like five, But when you 892 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,479 Speaker 3: turn on a film, he runs like he's two hundred 893 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 3: and twenty fine hours. That could be a concern because 894 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,959 Speaker 3: he is a quarterback and you don't want him getting hurt, 895 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 3: which he ended up did. He ended up getting hurt 896 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 3: last year, and supposedly he should be maybe ready for 897 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 3: the spring when it comes around from what I've been hearing. 898 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's some stuff there. 899 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: Doesn't have the biggest arm sometimes tries the guy the 900 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 3: ball instead of just letting it rip. 901 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 2: I think it's because a lack of arm strength as well. 902 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: So I know a lot of Jet fans. 903 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 3: Have been, you know, kind of on the Jordan Travis 904 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 3: tell maybe try to take him in the sixth round 905 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: if he's there. 906 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, or available about him. 907 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, which which I wouldn't mind. 908 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 3: I just think that's a better prospect and has a 909 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 3: better chance to be a guy in the future than 910 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 3: Jordan Truck. 911 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you could consider this guy a 912 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: developmental prospect or not, but I thought he was a 913 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: good college quarterback. That's Sam Hartman. He transferred to Notre Dame. 914 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think he pops off the charts 915 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: as far as physical traits, but I do think there's 916 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: something there. 917 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. The funny thing is I think if I'm not mistaken, 918 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: I think he ran like a four to six or 919 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 2: a four to seven. Come I nobody saw happening. 920 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 3: The only thing, the only thing that reminded me of 921 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 3: that was I think it was the game from not 922 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 3: mistaken first Duke when it was like third and like 923 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 3: nineteen and he. 924 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 2: Took off for a first down. I was like, where 925 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: did that come from? H? 926 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 927 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: So I mean to me, I think he would. 928 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 3: Have actually had a better chance of going high in 929 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 3: the draft if it came out last year after Wake 930 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 3: for it in too many ups and downs. Yeah, when 931 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 3: you talk about it, like even the USC game that 932 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: they won, like he didn't actually play well in that game, 933 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 3: Like the Dame's defense played extremely well in that game. 934 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 3: Just too many turnovers, inconsistency with where to go with 935 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 3: the football, and he's another guy that doesn't have the 936 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 3: biggest arm as well. But you love the intangibles as 937 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 3: far as being a leader, being able to be at 938 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 3: Wake Forest for all the those years and lead them 939 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 3: to a lot of victories and even transferring to Notre 940 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 3: Dame historic program, right and you know, things look kind 941 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 3: of bleak for a second there, but he was able 942 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 3: to finish off the season strong with them as well. 943 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: So he's a guy that you know, maybe if you 944 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 3: haven't taken the quarterback, you may be taking filler at 945 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 3: at the seventh and the seventh round. Because I think 946 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 3: the Jets have two seven round picks, yes, including mister irrelevant, 947 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 3: which I know that's what you're trying to go there. 948 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 3: We saw, you know, we saw Rock Party go mister irrelevant. 949 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 3: Could could say him Sam Hartman be the next Rock 950 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 3: per That's what everybody always wants to ask. But I 951 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 3: just I just think I think they just need to 952 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 3: address the developmental guy, probably with one of. 953 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: Their forefront picks. 954 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: Pratt is the guy and not a drop off for 955 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: you as far as developmental prospects. 956 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so a lot of people will say Joe Milton 957 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 3: has the highest ceiling at quarterback just because he has. 958 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: But I feel like that I'm not busted on Joe Milton. 959 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: I think that bet saying that for years. As far 960 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: as his ability, Yes, a lot of like monster parts 961 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: where you're like, oh my god, guy you throw the 962 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 1: ball at the stadium, Oh my god, he's fast, he's big. Yeah. 963 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 3: The accuracy, the accuracy is all over the place. The 964 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: one thing I do love about Joe Millon. He doesn't 965 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 3: put the ball in harm's way, So you like that 966 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 3: as a quarterback, But again, you got to be able 967 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 3: to control that that bazooka of an arm right as 968 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 3: far as throwing with accurate especially underneath throws, intermediate throws, 969 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 3: we know he could throw the ball down the field 970 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 3: like he could throw the leather off the ball. He 971 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 3: can literally be on his knees and probably throw it 972 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 3: eighty yards. But it's more than like you said, it's 973 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: not just about the longest throw competition playing quarterback. 974 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 2: There's so much more than that. So know a lot 975 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 2: of people have been enamory with him. 976 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 3: Because he does have the physical traits also to run 977 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 3: the ball as well. 978 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 2: He's a really good athlete. 979 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 3: But I just think when you look at Michael Pratt's 980 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 3: game and I didn't even talk about his athletic ability. 981 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 3: They used him in quarterback runs and you see the 982 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 3: toughness for Michael Pratt as well. I just think as 983 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 3: a developmental guy, he makes the most sense. 984 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm actually worried now the more you talk about Pratt 985 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: and the more I read about he's gonna go in 986 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: the third round round a third last fourth round pick, 987 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: so he could go in the third. And it's an 988 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: interesting dynamic for the Jets because you're not sitting there 989 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 1: with the second round pick. So that third round pick, 990 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: it's big in today's day and age. You want a 991 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: third round pick, ain't you come in and contribute immediately? 992 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you really do. 993 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about this the other day. Your third 994 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 3: four fifth round picks have to eventually be spot starters 995 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 3: or turn into stutters. And the third round pick is 996 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 3: more of like on that cust on that teen leering 997 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 3: in the line, because first the second round you want 998 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 3: them to come in to make immediate impacts, whether it's 999 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 3: either you know, your second round pick on special teams 1000 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 3: or he's a third receiver, maybe even fourth receiver, but 1001 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 3: making a you know, impact on special teams. But the 1002 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 3: third round pick is always that you're gonna develop them, 1003 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 3: but you kind of want them to turn into being 1004 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 3: a guy. Right, So, like, I know we're gonna get 1005 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 3: into this the third round pick. In my mock draft. 1006 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 3: A lot of people got mad at me, uh, but 1007 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 3: they obviously haven't looked at the roster. 1008 00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 2: Right. 1009 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 3: I went Cold Bishop from Utah. It was one of 1010 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,959 Speaker 3: my favorite players. In this draft. 1011 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: You know, I talked to Charles Davis about him at 1012 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: lead meetings. 1013 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 3: People that know no, people that know no, Like that 1014 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 3: would be a home run pick in the third round 1015 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 3: for the just because if you currently look at the roster, right, 1016 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 3: you got Chuck Clark coming off of major injury, Tony Adams, 1017 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 3: and then who. 1018 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 2: Else do you have? JB Yeah, exactly so, and I 1019 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 2: think played corner right and made a transition so like 1020 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,479 Speaker 2: and didn't play at all last year. 1021 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: Oh, Robert said last week they'll carry four. They don't 1022 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: have four right now? 1023 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: You don't even. 1024 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 4: So I don't even know how you get mad at 1025 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 4: me from mocking Cole Bishop to the Jets in the 1026 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 4: third round, because if you look at with jeff Aulbrick 1027 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 4: and also Robert Halla, do a lot of three safety 1028 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 4: says did y'all? 1029 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 2: Y'all forget Ashton Davis played a. 1030 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 3: Lot on defense last year, especially in the back half 1031 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 3: of the season. 1032 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 2: So like, right now, if one of your safeties get hurt, 1033 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 2: who's coming in? All right? 1034 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: So we're here, sweak and we're going to do an 1035 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: entire first round mock draft, and that's how we're going 1036 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: to finish our pre draft podcast series here, But dudes, 1037 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: how do you rank the Jets' needs added into the draft? Hum? 1038 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: So when you look at it, I would say receiver one, 1039 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 2: safety are close to close to like I think, I 1040 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: don't think people understand how big safety is the need 1041 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 2: for this team. Now again, purpose time by saying there's 1042 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 2: a lot of good safety still on the market and 1043 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 2: Joe Deeck is probably still working behind you know, the 1044 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 2: phone line, so we'll see how that pans out. 1045 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 3: But just going into the draft as today, right, safety 1046 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 3: is a big need I think. And people get mad 1047 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 3: at me about this detackle even though they signed three guys, 1048 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 3: they're all on one year deals. Again, if you want 1049 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 3: to have sustained success, you got to have somebody that 1050 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 3: can grow with Quinn Williams inside. And then I think 1051 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 3: office a tackle and I say that and people look 1052 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 3: at me crazy. My thing is, just have a first 1053 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 3: round pick and a third round pick right if you 1054 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 3: take it. If you don't take an offensive tackle in 1055 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 3: the first round, let mean just taking them in the third, fourth, 1056 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 3: or sixth round or the two seventh rounds, which means 1057 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 3: he's gonna be a developmental guy. 1058 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he's gonna. 1059 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 3: Most likely play this year, or you're hoping that he 1060 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 3: doesn't play or is forcing the action. So you know, 1061 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: people got bad at me because I didn't mark a 1062 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 3: tackle until the sixth round for the Jets. But my 1063 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 3: thing is when you take a Max Mitchell in the 1064 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 3: fourth and you take a Carter Warren in the fourth, 1065 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 3: good teams are able to develop third, fourth and fifth 1066 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 3: round picks to become spot starters or starters. You would 1067 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 3: think Carter Warren, second year in this in this offense, 1068 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 3: would take a step. Max Mitchell's was his first time 1069 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 3: with his offensive line coach last year, so you think 1070 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,879 Speaker 3: his second year with this offensive line coach, he would 1071 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 3: take a major step. 1072 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: So if those are your third and fourth tackles, that's 1073 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 2: how you build sustained success. Right. 1074 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 3: If you look at our teams do it. The Baltimore Ravens, 1075 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 3: they do it all the time. Like they were willing 1076 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 3: to trade away Morgan Moses because they took Dagian Fool 1077 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 3: a few years ago and they're hoping that he can 1078 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 3: step into the tackle. If not, they'll draft the first 1079 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 3: round tackle. 1080 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: So keep on replenishing. 1081 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 2: Also, you gotta develop guys. 1082 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,439 Speaker 1: And also you're paying younger guys to correct because once 1083 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: you start getting that second contract, then that the dollars 1084 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: come exactly, pay everybody exactly. 1085 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 3: So like, people are like, you didn't addrest the whole lot. 1086 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 3: So to me, you have to think about this in 1087 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 3: roster building. If you take a guy in a third, fourth, 1088 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 3: or fifth round, are you really expecting him to be 1089 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 3: the guy at offensive tackle in year one? No, you're 1090 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 3: not so Like to me, I took a guy Tyler Grabile. 1091 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: If you are your roster is not good, you're. 1092 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 2: Being You're struggling. You're struggling. 1093 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 3: I took Tyler Grable from UCF in the sixth round, 1094 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 3: who blew up the combine very athletic tackle as a 1095 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 3: developmental guy, and nobody talked about it. They're like, you 1096 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 3: didn't adjust the tackle is I'm like, we're not getting 1097 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 3: a tackle to start unless we take him at number ten, right, 1098 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 3: So like, and then even we take him at number ten, 1099 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 3: if the other two guys stay healthy, he's not playing 1100 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 3: this year. So like, to me, you have to understand 1101 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 3: in regards to building a roster, it's all about developing 1102 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 3: your third, fourth, fifth round picks to eventually be starters 1103 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 3: or spot starters at worse. 1104 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: All right, So the synopsis of today is, dudes wants 1105 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: a receiver here first round? Oh yeah, he likes Rock Bowers. 1106 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: I do a lot, but probably not for the Jets. 1107 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 5: To Richard tackle, yes, but not necessarily early correct and 1108 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 5: developmental quarterback late. 1109 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: That's gonna happen for sure. And safety and safety is 1110 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: a sneaky. 1111 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's sneaky. I think it's monumental. 1112 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: Monumental. 1113 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 2: Okay, we lost Jordan Whitehead, who got it? 1114 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 3: I mean again, we got Chuck Clark, but he's coming 1115 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 3: off of major knee injury. So it's just like you 1116 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 3: have to address that issue now. I know you had, 1117 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 3: you know, talk to my guy Salah and you know 1118 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 3: he put it out there asking me, we love you, 1119 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 3: we love it. 1120 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 2: That would be great that they can sign. Even if 1121 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 2: they do something, I think they still need to draft. 1122 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: To die good stuff. Next week it's time for a 1123 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: Minck draft. 1124 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 2: Who is almost here? Yeah, it's almost here.