WEBVTT - McLaren Racing CEO Zak Brown Talks Formula 1

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<v Speaker 3>We do.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I hear from people a lot

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<v Speaker 2>is that they really like it when we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a guest.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you've heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard that, But I mean I enjoy when

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<v Speaker 1>it's just us girls.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, me too. But we have

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<v Speaker 5>such a good guest. Well today, we have a great guest.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week, we have a great guest the follow So

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<v Speaker 2>we have a line We have a lineup of incredible guests.

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<v Speaker 2>But ever since I watched the five hundred, which I

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<v Speaker 2>was so excited about, and then Monaco, which left me

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<v Speaker 2>just questioning the entire league, I've really wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Zach Brown, so we got him.

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<v Speaker 4>I love talking to Zach Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he is articulate and he is not so media

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<v Speaker 1>trained that he's really boring.

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<v Speaker 3>He is.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's just honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he just speaks in straight lines, there's no bs.

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<v Speaker 1>He answers questions directly. It's a dream and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>real Yeah, he's a real person.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And so and obviously we watched Drive to Survive. You

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<v Speaker 2>see this like battle of this like Axis of Evil

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. The it's like Darth Vader versus Darth Vader

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<v Speaker 2>when you have Toto and Christian. But I know, Toto

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<v Speaker 2>in real life is a nice guy. You've got Gunter.

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<v Speaker 2>You had Gunter who was like, you know, the crazy guy, a.

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<v Speaker 4>Great personality, and it was a it was a breath

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<v Speaker 4>of fres share of time.

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<v Speaker 2>I would see Zach because he was like down to earth,

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<v Speaker 2>honest dude. Plus he is like a young American, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's nice to see that, you know, in Formula one.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyways, crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It is crazy though, how chill he comes off when

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<v Speaker 1>you consider everything he's running and operating, Yes, schedule mus

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<v Speaker 1>be nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>It's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's he's I mean, did you know that McLaren is

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<v Speaker 1>the only company to win the Indy five hundred twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hour Lament and Monico.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that, but I know they've been

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<v Speaker 2>having an awesome time of it lately. Yeah, because they

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<v Speaker 2>came in second in the Indie. They were second at Monaco,

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<v Speaker 2>they were second before that, they were first. Obviously Lando

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<v Speaker 2>won at Miami, so.

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<v Speaker 4>They're on an upswing for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get over to Zach Brown, CEO of McLaren without

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<v Speaker 2>any further ado. So my main question is around the

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<v Speaker 2>differences that we watched when Monaco and Indy were happening. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>India was one of the best races I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it was painful for you guys because Paedo

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<v Speaker 2>came in second again and it was a last minute passed,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was so dramatic and it was so emotional right,

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<v Speaker 2>and Monica was like the most boring race I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen in my entire life. So the juxtaposition of that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is I just like to hear your take

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Indy was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 6>I read it was only the fourth time in the

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<v Speaker 6>history of the Indy five hundred that the lead was

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<v Speaker 6>exchanged on the last lap, which I thought I'd seen

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<v Speaker 6>it more than that, but I read that unless it's

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<v Speaker 6>inaccurate data, but I don't think that's the case.

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<v Speaker 3>It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we ran so strong all day, Kyle Larson, Pato,

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<v Speaker 6>Alex Rossi, so I thought I thought we had it

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<v Speaker 6>there for a second, but I've been around Indy long

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<v Speaker 6>enough to know that, especially with the drafting, that it's

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<v Speaker 6>kind of dangerous the lead the last lap.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was mass exciting. The team did a wonderful job.

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<v Speaker 6>I think Kyle, had he not had his his penalty

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<v Speaker 6>in pit lane, you know, I think we had three

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<v Speaker 6>cars there would have had three cars there right at

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<v Speaker 6>the end. Callum myloc did a great job finishing. I

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<v Speaker 6>think it was eleventh. So that was a massively exciting race,

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<v Speaker 6>and as Monaco interesting, when you're in the race as

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<v Speaker 6>we were, it's never dull, even though of course I

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<v Speaker 6>understand exactly what you're saying, and it wasn't. It was

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<v Speaker 6>no passing, but I think Formula One it was so

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<v Speaker 6>close and you're just waiting for that driver to make

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<v Speaker 6>a mistake that even though you kind of look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now and go, that was boring. There was no passes.

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<v Speaker 3>You're kind of always on your edge.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the seat because if Leclaire locked the brake, touched

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<v Speaker 6>the wall, oscars winning the race. So to me it

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<v Speaker 6>was kind of how many ever laps it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>edge of your seat going, is it gonna make a mistake,

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<v Speaker 6>is it gonna make it?

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<v Speaker 3>Just never made a mistake. So I found them both exciting,

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<v Speaker 3>but for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think when you're in the game and you're

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<v Speaker 6>running second and fourth in the race in both you

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<v Speaker 6>know your it's edge of your seat stuff, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Charles did a great job. Just never made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 6>But two different types of racing, two different types of circuits.

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<v Speaker 6>One that has no passing, you know, Monica unique in

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<v Speaker 6>that sense, and one that has lots of passing on

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<v Speaker 6>a big two and a half mile over.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, McLaren is the only team that competes in

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<v Speaker 1>Formula one, IndyCar, Formula E, You've got Extreme E, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got esports. My big question for you is how do

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<v Speaker 1>you get it all done? Can you give us some

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<v Speaker 1>best practices for how this is sustainable for you? I

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<v Speaker 1>know you just renewed your contract until I think twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you finding your life sustainable? And even joyful.

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<v Speaker 1>I follow you on Instagram of course, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>you seem very well at ease and like you're enjoying things,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know you're probably paddling furiously underneath everything.

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<v Speaker 6>It's all the above. First of all, I love my job.

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<v Speaker 6>I love McLaren. Always have my favorite team growing up,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's a privilege to work for McLaren. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>a pretty pretty cool job. That's a great place to

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<v Speaker 6>start from. The travels brutal. I think the secret to success,

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<v Speaker 6>if you'd like, is having a great leadership team around me,

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<v Speaker 6>and each racing team is self sufficient, so the IndyCar

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<v Speaker 6>team isn't dependent upon the F one team is in

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<v Speaker 6>dependent upon the formerly team. There's a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 6>commercial centergies, opportunities for our employees, senergy, so there's a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of synergies. But they you know, the Formula one

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<v Speaker 6>team here in Montreal doesn't need anything from the IndyCar

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<v Speaker 6>team and the IndyCar teams racing in Road America this

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<v Speaker 6>weekend and it doesn't need anything from the team Formula one,

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<v Speaker 6>so they can all run independently. The benefit is when

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<v Speaker 6>you put them all together for our commercial partners, for

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<v Speaker 6>employee opportunity. I'm kind of the only fool that flies

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<v Speaker 6>around the world trying to be in all places at

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<v Speaker 6>one time.

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<v Speaker 3>But I love it. It's what I've been doing my

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<v Speaker 3>whole whole life.

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<v Speaker 6>It certainly has its days where you know, you can

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<v Speaker 6>just get tired, but I'm never tired of it. I

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<v Speaker 6>just sometimes lack sleep, but you know, I love being

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<v Speaker 6>around these racing teams. Fortunately, in the digital world we

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<v Speaker 6>live in. If I'm in the Indy five hundred, I've

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<v Speaker 6>got my double triple top secret Dell laptop like I

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<v Speaker 6>am on pit walls, so I feel like I'm very

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<v Speaker 6>connected to the Formula One team even if I'm not there.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll do the same this weekend here in Montreal. I'll

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<v Speaker 6>be watching the Road America race and be dialed into Gavin.

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<v Speaker 6>He's running that team, so big organization, but we're in

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<v Speaker 6>the racing business and it's all running pretty smoothly. It

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<v Speaker 6>was great to in the same weekend finish second in

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<v Speaker 6>China and a formerly race second at the eighty five hundred,

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<v Speaker 6>second in Monica. Bittersweet that they weren't three wins, but

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<v Speaker 6>pretty cool, but I think that shows how well each

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<v Speaker 6>team operates. Independently, and I had no sleep that entire weekend, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The win in Miami was incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to saw that too.

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<v Speaker 1>That must have felt like such a triumph for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys and most awesome in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was awesome for the sport. I think

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<v Speaker 6>it was awesome for McLaren and Orlando is such a

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<v Speaker 6>huge popular win. Obviously, everyone wants to see a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit less dominance. Everyone loves Lando. I've never met someone

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<v Speaker 6>who's not a Orlando fan. McLaren's obviously a team with

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<v Speaker 6>rich history that I think we have awesome fans, So

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was a very popular win at the

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<v Speaker 6>right time. I think Lando, while he would never admit it,

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<v Speaker 6>be in the driver with the most podiums ever without

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<v Speaker 6>a win is a bittersweet statistic that now that's behind him,

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<v Speaker 6>I think more wins are coming. And since then we've

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<v Speaker 6>had two second places, so a lot of racing left

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<v Speaker 6>to go in the season, and we're pushing hard to

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<v Speaker 6>make sure that that was our first win of the

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<v Speaker 6>year and not our last win of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, and I like that you said the

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<v Speaker 1>less dominance turn of phrase that you had in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to imagine that next year, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis changing teams and Adrian Newey changing teams, we could

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<v Speaker 1>expect a bit of a shuffle and who makes the podium?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 5>And with McLaren's resurgence this year, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, of course, yeah, of course you guys are on

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<v Speaker 1>a rise.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think you know, if I look at the

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<v Speaker 6>teams on the grid, First of all, the grid's never

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<v Speaker 6>been sure, so I think it would be a big

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<v Speaker 6>mistake to discount any.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the teams.

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<v Speaker 6>But if we look at our most current petition, if

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<v Speaker 6>you'd like, I think we've got a tremendous amount of stability,

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<v Speaker 6>energy momentum. I think we've got the best driver lineup

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<v Speaker 6>on the grid of a combination of experience and youth

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<v Speaker 6>and longevity.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think in any sport.

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<v Speaker 6>Stability, visibility, camaraderie, teamwork is critically important. I think we've

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<v Speaker 6>got that going on. I think Ferrari has that going on.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously they've got a driver change that they need to

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<v Speaker 6>work through, but guiding for the sport, I think their

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<v Speaker 6>team principal is doing an excellent job. So I look

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<v Speaker 6>at Ferrari and go They're going to be pretty dangerous.

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<v Speaker 6>I think Mercedes is impossible to count out, but I

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<v Speaker 6>think they are going through some transition. They don't yet

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<v Speaker 6>know their driver lineup for next year, so I think

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<v Speaker 6>they have a little bit of uncertainty, which an unbelievable team,

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<v Speaker 6>but that uncertainty I think makes it a little bit difficult.

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<v Speaker 6>And then Red Bull is a pretty toxic environment, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>with everything that's been going on there.

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<v Speaker 4>It sort of seems like blown over.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's more to come.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Adrian Newie leaving is a big deal because

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<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of people that are probably there that

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to work alongside Adrian Newey and I made the

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<v Speaker 6>comment there's some cvs flying around, there are and there's

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<v Speaker 6>always CBS flying around, but you can see a higher

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<v Speaker 6>level of discomfort there. I think it's harder for them

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<v Speaker 6>in the in the future with what's kind of gone on, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>with with kind of the situation for sponsors, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, sponsors they kind of look at

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<v Speaker 6>who they're associated with, what if they stand. I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's a tricky situation. And then you know, the whole

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<v Speaker 6>for stopping drama. Willie stay Willy go he's got a contract.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you've seen his father be very outspoken. So

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's unbelievably a great racing team, but a

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<v Speaker 6>pretty destabilized environment. And I think you're seeing that with

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<v Speaker 6>Adrian Leeds, so I think again, how could you ever

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<v Speaker 6>count them out? It's an unbelievable team, But that's a

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<v Speaker 6>team that my mind isn't on strong footing right now

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<v Speaker 6>to where they have been in the past. Ashton's not

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<v Speaker 6>far behind, you know, they've they've fallen back a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit here this year, but we're really strong last year.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think you got to take them all seriously,

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<v Speaker 6>of course, but I kind of look at who has

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<v Speaker 6>the clearest path of visibility and momentum and it kind

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<v Speaker 6>of feels like it's Ferrari and McLaren at the moment.

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<v Speaker 6>But things can change pretty quick, so we got to

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<v Speaker 6>keep our feet on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Does McLaren have some empty job positions available for any

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who may be jumping ship at at any any

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<v Speaker 1>other organization potentially?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I couldn't be happier with our racing team, but

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<v Speaker 6>things are always moving fast and evolving, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>anytime someone with a great skill set comes on the

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<v Speaker 6>market if you like, you know, you'd be silly not

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<v Speaker 6>to have conversations. But I love what Andrea Stella has

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<v Speaker 6>done and leading our team the momentum we have, it's

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<v Speaker 6>clearly working. So anything we can do to turbo charge

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<v Speaker 6>that we're always open for you, always trying to go faster.

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<v Speaker 6>But I like the race car that our team's putting

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<v Speaker 6>on the racetrack right now.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you have been at the Helm not

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<v Speaker 2>only for the resurgence of your team, but really for

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<v Speaker 2>the resurgence of the sport and racing. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>read a comment you were talking about the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Williams was sold for one hundred and fifty million a

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<v Speaker 2>few years back and now it's worth at least ten

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<v Speaker 2>x And I just think, you know, the popularity of

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<v Speaker 2>this already incredibly popular sport has grown so much in

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<v Speaker 2>the last few years. Is that all down to drive

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<v Speaker 2>to survive or to what do you attribute that?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's all down to drive and survive,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think it's definitely played a big role. I

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<v Speaker 6>think what it's all down to is liberty and when

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<v Speaker 6>they acquired the sport, the way they've reshaped the sport,

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<v Speaker 6>focus on the fan, get the teams to kind of

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<v Speaker 6>show that the fans behind the curtain, you know, how

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<v Speaker 6>the sport works, which I think Netflix has played a

0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.080
<v Speaker 6>big role there. So I think where the credits do

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<v Speaker 6>is due to Liberty. Netflix has certainly had its role

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<v Speaker 6>within that. But look at what's happened in North America.

0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.960
<v Speaker 6>We've gone from one race to three races and new

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<v Speaker 6>television partner Netflix. We've got Brad Pitt movie coming, which

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<v Speaker 6>you know, who isn't going to watch the next Brad

0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.320
<v Speaker 6>Pitt movie and going to be Brad Pitt Formula One driver.

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<v Speaker 6>So we've brought in women to the sport, We've brought

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<v Speaker 6>a youth to the sport. We've really made great strides

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<v Speaker 6>and sustainability. So I think you've got to look at

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<v Speaker 6>what Liberty has done for the sport as a whole

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<v Speaker 6>and all the participants in it. The way we've embraced it.

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<v Speaker 6>And it took a little bit of time. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>when Netflix came out year one, Mercedes and Ferrari didn't participate,

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<v Speaker 6>which was a bit of an old school thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we don't want to show what's behind the scenes or

0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.000
<v Speaker 6>the money's not great enough. And I think what the

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<v Speaker 6>sport has woken up to and has embraced is let's

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<v Speaker 6>focus on the fan and then everything else will fall

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<v Speaker 6>into place. And that's exactly what we've done.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have more.

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<v Speaker 6>Fans than we've ever had, more Grand Prix than we've

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<v Speaker 6>ever had, ten unbelievably healthy racing teams, so it's like

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<v Speaker 6>everything is just green, green, green, go go go right now.

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<v Speaker 3>In Form one.

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<v Speaker 6>And to me, what's really exciting is I don't see

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<v Speaker 6>that trajectory going anywhere other than North because the racing's

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<v Speaker 6>getting even better and the teams are healthier, and we

0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.960
<v Speaker 6>have demand for more Grand Prix than ever, so I

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<v Speaker 6>think in many ways we're just getting started.

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<v Speaker 1>Can there ever be too many Grand Prix in North America?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean at five and there's there always seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be rumbling that there could be one in Chicago or

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<v Speaker 1>New York. You know, is there a critical mass, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak?

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<v Speaker 6>I think there is, and I think we're there now,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'll break that down for you. I think twenty

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<v Speaker 6>four races is the maximum we can do. It's it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's a brutal number. I'm put aside the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>I would go race fifty two times a year. I

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't be very popular with my racing team if I

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<v Speaker 6>was a proponent of that. So but I'm a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit a petrol in my bloodnut that others don't. So

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<v Speaker 6>twenty four, I think is the max I think we

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<v Speaker 6>need to. I'd be an advocate of like twenty fixed races,

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<v Speaker 6>an eight that rotate every other year. So you maintain

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<v Speaker 6>the twenty four race schedule, but you continue to grow

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<v Speaker 6>the reach in the markets because the demand is there.

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<v Speaker 6>Then of course, who are those that get it every

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<v Speaker 6>other year? I think we're maximum capacity in America's you

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<v Speaker 6>know three in North three in the States, Canada, Mexico, Brazil.

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<v Speaker 6>That's awesome, I don't think While I think the sport

0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:12.320
<v Speaker 6>would embrace more, I think that would come to the

0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.720
<v Speaker 6>detriment of other parts of the world. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 6>see another race or two in Asia. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 6>see us in South Africa, you know, et cetera. So

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<v Speaker 6>I think the sport and the fans would embrace more races.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think we're a global championship and we have

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<v Speaker 6>some other pockets of the world we need to work on.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think The only way you could bring in

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<v Speaker 6>another North American race is if that became part of

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<v Speaker 6>a rotation, because again, I'd love to see us in Korea.

0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.439
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to see us in Thailand. We almost got

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<v Speaker 3>into Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd love South South Africa, some of these other territories,

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<v Speaker 6>and to make sure that we continue to expand our

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<v Speaker 6>our global footprint, India would be a great market to

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<v Speaker 6>be in. So so I think we're in a good,

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<v Speaker 6>good place in America.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you bail on Monica?

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<v Speaker 4>I was just gonna ask that that's what we mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, Zach, can't they just do qualifying and

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<v Speaker 2>then go to a cocktail party?

0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Because could we bail on Monaco? We could?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I think the sport is so strong and

0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.760
<v Speaker 6>we have so many awesome races.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, could we we could? Should we will? We?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think we should and I don't think we will,

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<v Speaker 6>but could we?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>I think alternating years.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, certainly that could could fall into

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<v Speaker 6>that camp if you'd like. Uh, you know, the spectacle

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.680
<v Speaker 6>is still amazing, the TV ratings are still very strong.

0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Of course, it isn't a you know, it's a pure race.

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<v Speaker 6>It has the least amount of passing, always has, always will.

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<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, the sport is commercially so strong

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<v Speaker 6>that you know, it's always kind of had one of

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<v Speaker 6>the more favorable UH.

0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Terms and conditions.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they need to get caught up there because

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, we are in a commercial sport, and one

0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.680
<v Speaker 6>could argue, wait a minute, some of these other venues

0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:15.600
<v Speaker 6>are driving similar TV ratings, you know, great racing and

0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.560
<v Speaker 6>contributing a lot more to the growth of the sport fiscally.

0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.639
<v Speaker 6>You know, you've got the Miamis, the Vegas Is, the Singapore's.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, these are all awesome races.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'd be surprised if it didn't stay on the calendar.

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<v Speaker 6>But if it were in a way, would it create

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of noise and the short term yes, would

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<v Speaker 6>people move on and Formula one to be as strong

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<v Speaker 6>as ever?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get more recognition in the US by far

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<v Speaker 2>for F one because Indy has been so exciting the

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<v Speaker 2>last few years, and when I was a kid in

0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the middle of America, people packed up RVs and went

0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to Indianapolis like it was the greatest spectacle in racing.

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 2>But it just seems like F one has eclipsed every

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:09.120
<v Speaker 2>other league by far.

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Formala one has done an amazing job.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there is a lot IndyCar could learn from

0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.720
<v Speaker 6>Formula One. I think there's a lot Formula One can

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<v Speaker 6>learn from IndyCar. We can all learn from each other's sport,

0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:27.199
<v Speaker 6>but Formal One's done an unbelievable job. Yes, you know,

0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 6>I do get a lot more commentary if you'd like,

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<v Speaker 6>when I'm in North America about Formula One than IndyCar.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's a tremendous amount of untapped potential in IndyCar,

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<v Speaker 6>but we need to pick up the pace. I think

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<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of opportunity, some of which were seizing

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<v Speaker 6>and other areas that we need to catch up on

0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:53.680
<v Speaker 6>and we need to kind of throw.

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<v Speaker 3>It up a gear or two, and I'm confident we will.

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<v Speaker 6>But there's a lot of opportunity, and I think we

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.320
<v Speaker 6>need to pick up the pace because it was long

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:06.800
<v Speaker 6>ago Formula one had no profile in North America, and

0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:08.840
<v Speaker 6>now you know, we do have to ask ourselves with

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 6>our Indie Car had on put aside Indy five hundred

0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 6>television ratings, why does Formula one have greater television ratings

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<v Speaker 6>than IndyCar?

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<v Speaker 3>In our home.

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:23.080
<v Speaker 6>Market in awkward time zones where we only race a

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<v Speaker 6>few times a year, And I think that's a bit

0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.040
<v Speaker 6>of a wake up call. Is too we can be

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.920
<v Speaker 6>and should be doing a better job because the racing

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 6>and the product is great. So we have to ask ourselves,

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<v Speaker 6>why is Miami and Monaco when, to your point, wasn't

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 6>the most exciting racing. Why is Monaco getting a bigger

0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.679
<v Speaker 6>television rating in our home market than all of our

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 6>other race is outside of the Indy five hundred. So

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's a bit of a wake up call.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying that Indie needs a rebrand, a complete

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<v Speaker 1>my brand?

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I think they're I woudn't necessarily rebranded.

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 6>I think we need to continue to really focus on

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.679
<v Speaker 6>the consumer. I think there's a lot of room for

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:14.160
<v Speaker 6>improvement around our digital experience or our outreach to the fans.

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:18.679
<v Speaker 6>I think we could use a refresh, excuse me of

0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.359
<v Speaker 6>the product. Our racing cars have been around for quite

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:28.119
<v Speaker 6>some time. I think the calendar has room for improvement.

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.560
<v Speaker 6>So I think there's lots of opportunity. We just need

0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:32.640
<v Speaker 6>to seize it. I'm confident we will. There's a lot

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:36.400
<v Speaker 6>of conversations going on around, you know, freshening up the products.

0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't think it necessarily needs a rebrand, but I

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 6>need to. I think it needs a refreshing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I think we have to be real when looking at

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<v Speaker 6>the data and the statistics and go, you know what,

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<v Speaker 6>why do is Formula one come into our home market

0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 6>and not long ago had lesser television ratings and now

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.919
<v Speaker 6>has greater television ratings. So I think that uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, but I think the good news is I

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:00.239
<v Speaker 6>think the product is right.

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 3>We just need to do a better job.

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Roger Penske needs to call John alone.

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I'll leave that Roger and.

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.199
<v Speaker 4>John, Well, I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it is ironic that an American company, Liberty Media,

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is the is, like you said, sort of the catalyst

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>to launching Formula one in the US and really making

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>it acceptable to American consumers. That just seems ironic. Does

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:31.439
<v Speaker 1>it take an American sensibility to translate some of these

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<v Speaker 1>at least European style?

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Raising?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously glad they bought MotoGP yeah, which is already amazing.

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.919
<v Speaker 6>I think they're gonna do great with Moto GP. I

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 6>think the you know, you never want to kind of

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 6>stereotype region. Sure, I think we've got to give a

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.719
<v Speaker 6>lot of credit to Austin Coda. They did a fantastic

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 6>job during and Formula one back, and then it's just

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.640
<v Speaker 6>built on itself, and you know, you need date equity.

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 3>People need to get familiar with the drivers.

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 6>And I think what Netflix did, especially in North America's

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 6>kind of lift the cover off of how does the

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 6>sport work, and the personalities and the drama and the politics,

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 6>and I think, you know, the American fan really likes

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:17.200
<v Speaker 6>to get personal with their sport, and I think formerly One,

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 6>historically pre Liberty, been a little bit of a look

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 6>but don't touch type of sport, and now it's a

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 6>let us get to know these twenty awesome racing drivers

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 6>and the team bosses, and I think fans around the world,

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:35.439
<v Speaker 6>and I think the reason why it's had such a

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 6>big impact in America's I think it's always been big

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 6>in Europe and understood, but it was.

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like a.

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 6>Fresh sport to America and Netflix helped kind of put

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 6>that front and center, and people have responded and it's

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 6>been great. I get more commentary now from people in

0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:00.719
<v Speaker 6>America that go and it'll be a guy, a father,

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.360
<v Speaker 6>a husband, and I can't tell you often he goes

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 6>my daughter loves Forem and my daughter loves Lando Norris

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 6>or my wife won't stop watching it. And what it's

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 6>done is it's taken, which is I think been the

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 6>most amazing part. It's taking people from having no awareness

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 6>to avid fan overnight. I hear so often I won't

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 6>miss a Grand Prix now versus I'm aware and I

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 6>kind of like it. They're like diehard fans. So it's

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 6>been amazing and we just need to continue to build

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 6>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it make a difference to your sales, Zach, I mean,

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>especially as you guys have started on a winning run lately,

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 2>are you is it possible to sell more McLaren's.

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 4>Went on Sunday?

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, definitely, Yeah, exactly a good old phrase. It doesn't

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 6>quite work that easily. We don't see necessarily big spikes

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 6>on Monday, but you can see North America is our

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 6>biggest market for our automotive business and continues to grow,

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 6>and you can see how many McLaren automotive fans or

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 6>fans of the Formula One team and vice versa. So

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 6>we're fortunate, like a few others in the sport where

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 6>we've got these two awesome brands in the world to

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 6>collide and and we help scratch each other's back.

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 4>If you like, what do you drive?

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? What do you What do you like to drive?

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 6>Well, my my daily driver is a bit more of

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 6>a range rover because it's not the easiest place in

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 6>the world to navigate. Of course, I've got my McLaren's

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 6>in the garage. But I'm a I'm a car junkie.

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 6>So if your name is sports car, I've got one

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 6>of those.

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 4>So can you collect too, right? Memorabilia? Sports memorabilia.

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm a big baseball fan, ice hockey fan as

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.719
<v Speaker 6>far as collecting collectible documents, so I've got a uh,

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 6>pretty awesome collection. It's all my childhood uh dreams, and

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to be a baseball player an ice hockey player.

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Didn't quite work out. But I'm fortunate now.

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 6>A lot of baseball players, hockey players, golfers I just

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 6>came back from the memorial or fans of the sport.

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 6>So it's a it's a privilege being in the position

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm in to be able to meet a lot of

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 6>my heroes and idols growing up. I don't think they

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 6>quite realize it, because I think they're equally as excited

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 6>to kind of come to a Formula One race. But

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:15.199
<v Speaker 6>it's pretty cool having Albert PUOs and Paul Goldschmidt and

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 6>Timo Solani, and as I mentioned, I'm when I have

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 6>dinner with Mark Messier, who I've not met through a

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.959
<v Speaker 6>mutual friend, which I'm very excited because I grew up

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 6>watching Mark. He's an awesome player, and so excited to

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 6>meet him. It makes me feel like I'm thirteen fourteen again,

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 6>even though they probably don't appreciate that.

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Dating them now, I want.

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>To ask, I see you drinking something out of a

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>tea cup. I imagine it's tea. How has it been

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>as an American living in the UK.

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, do you find.

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Yourself adjusting to quirky British lifestyles?

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one hundred percent.

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 6>But you know, back when I was racing, I lived

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 6>in England, so I live there from ninety one to

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 6>ninety four. I've been there now, it's about twelve years.

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 6>I love Europe, love England. I love traveling, always been

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 6>a fan of it. I definitely think I've picked up

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 6>some of the the the quirks if you'd like to

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 6>call them that, But I haven't left my American ones

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 6>behind it all, so I'm a bit of a mutt.

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 6>No one can quite figure out my accent or but

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 6>it still kind of sounds the same to me.

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 2>By the way, when I'm looking through bring a trailer,

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 2>which is like an addiction for me. It annoys me

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 2>when I see a right hand drive car that I

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>want because it's just it's just wrong.

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.239
<v Speaker 5>Do you buy right hand drive cars? I mean, for

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 5>your car, I got.

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 3>A bit of everything.

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if I have a choice, then I'm buying

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 6>a left hand drive, but I have both in the

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 6>in the collection.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 3>It kind of depends.

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 6>If it's a British car, you're gonna end up with

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 6>a right hand drive, you know, as it should be

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 6>by plenty of left hand drive.

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I'd say I'm probably three corps.

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>When you want a car, do you know what you

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>want and find it or do you look around and

0:28:58.160 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>something strikes you're fancy and you're like, oh, i'd like that.

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 6>It kind of depends if it's a roadcar, if it's

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 6>a race car. If it's a roadcar, I know what

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 6>I want. I kind of know where to go. I've

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 6>got a few dealer friends if you like, that will

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 6>sort me out. If it's a race car, you can

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 6>either kind of react. So one that i'd been chasing

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:22.479
<v Speaker 6>for years was Nigel Mantle's in the championship car from

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 6>nineteen ninety three, never had any success, and then Newman

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 6>Hass put it up for auction and I was all

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 6>over that. So the race cars, you kind of know

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 6>what you want, but they're not necessarily always for sales,

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 6>So sometimes it's reacting when you see something that comes

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 6>on the market.

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the price goes up when people realize

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>who they're selling to, or do you try to keep

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it a little anonymous if you're interested.

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 6>It kind of depends who it is and what it is.

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 6>You know, you mentioned to bring a trailer. That was

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 6>one where I I hid, you know, handle it. No,

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 6>I had a friend do it for me, a buddy

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 6>named Alan. Where McLaren's motor home from nineteen seventy two.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 6>And I bought this a few years ago, and I

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 6>think at one auction story of the the year where

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 6>it was McLaren's nineteen seventy two motor home. It was awesome,

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 6>a Ford Condor, and I was like, I definitely have

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 6>to have this, but I don't want anyone to know

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 6>who's bidding for it. And the owner had had it

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 6>for quite some time, so I had my buddy bid.

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 6>He won it, and then everyone it was quite a

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.479
<v Speaker 6>little bit of a bidding war, and then my buddy said, well,

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 6>you're never going to outbid the CEO of McLaren And

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 6>then everyone just went nuts, including the owner, who had

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 6>a bit of a tiary moment because he had it

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 6>for quite some time. He wanted to go to the

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 6>right home and you know, one new and that then

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 6>became quite a cool story. And I love sharing the

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 6>history of the sport with everyone. I'm happy to share

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 6>that I'm the biggest fan of motorsports and the history

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 6>of the sports, so I feel like it's part of

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 6>my role. I remember what an impression when I went

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 6>to the Long Beach Grand Prix in nineteen eighty one.

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.239
<v Speaker 6>It made on me as a ten year old, and

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 6>so I feel part of my role at McLaren is

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 6>to share how cool this sport is with the fans.

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 6>So I'm always stopping and talking to them, happy to

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 6>share these stories. And when you get into the car

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 6>collection and things of that nature. You know, while I

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 6>have them in my racing facility, we get them out.

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 6>I like to share them, like to tell people the

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 6>stories because I know what an impression it made on me,

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 6>and I hope that someone, you know, ten twenty thirty

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 6>years from now goes. I remember meeting Zach and it

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 6>was cool. He let me look at the car, introduce

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 6>me to Lando. We stop and talk to me, because

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 6>that's what our sport is about. It's about the fans.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>By the way, on that note, do you and you

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>mentioned bring more women in the sport?

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 5>And Hannah and I talk a lot about the.

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Academy and trying to get more women to drive. How

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 2>do you groom young talent? Do you have specific programs

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 2>for that? When you're talking to little girls and boys,

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>do you say, hey, you guys should try doing some

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 2>laps in the go cart? I mean, how does that work?

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You know.

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 6>One, it's about creating awareness so people you want to

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 6>get involved in motorsports. Obviously the driving is the most

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 6>famous part, but you know, it's important to us to

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 6>get young boys and girls involved in all aspects of

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 6>the sport, whether they want to be engineers or marketeers.

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 6>Or racing drivers, whatever the case may be. So a

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 6>lot of it is about just creating awareness so there's

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 6>excitement to participate, and then it's about creating opportunity, so

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 6>we have we just announced a program called sixty Scholars.

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 6>Last year was our sixty year birthday and it was

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 6>sixty opportunities for young women ages eighteen to twenty three

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 6>to get involved with McLaren around STEM. So we're just

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 6>trying to create awareness opportunity. It's why we got involved

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 6>in extremely where you have a male and female racing driver.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 6>So we had, for the first ever time a couple

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 6>of years ago, announced first ever female McLaren racing driver.

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 6>We've extended that to the F one Academy, which is

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 6>an all female racing series. So we're doing everything we

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 6>can to create awareness, to create opportunity, to have a

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 6>more diverse workforce and fan base, and it's exciting.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>So that was Zach Brown, and Wow, what a treat

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to have him. He always says something that is new

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>or interesting or just sort of changes how I understand

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>racing and American car culture.

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 4>I really he's great.

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, for example, the fact that F one could

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 2>possibly go without Monaco He made me kind of understand

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 2>that in a way that I haven't been thinking about

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:17.959
<v Speaker 2>the last few weeks. Like not that they don't want

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 2>to and he doesn't think they will, but they could

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>survive because they're strong enough that they don't need it.

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's probably the voice of reason, like, yes,

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 1>everyone will freak out, and then everyone will get on

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>with their life and you know, they'll move on.

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting also to think about IndyCar just doesn't do

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 2>enough to promote itself and I don't know, they're obviously

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 2>not as big and global, but Liberty has really worked

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>some magic with F one. They're gonna be able to

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 2>do that easily with Moto GP, which is on the

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 2>rise in an amazing series anyway, But imagine if that

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>touch could come over to it to Indy.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:02.479
<v Speaker 4>That would honestly be awesome. Yeah, that'd be really cool.

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 5>So we have a couple of other great guests in

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 5>the next few weeks.

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's safe to tease Jim Farley of

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Ford and get his take. He's a huge racing fan

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 2>as well. They're now involved with F one as well.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>He has a I think at least a couple but

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe a collection of old racing cars that he likes.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I saw him out on a in a nineteen seventy

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 2>two Lola once set.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 5>A track in Dearborne.

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he's another one that's like just a dude,

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Like he's a big boss. He's he's very powerful, but

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>then when you talk to him.

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 4>He's like a dude.

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know.

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:37.760
<v Speaker 4>It's really interesting.

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 5>With also a great podcast.

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I've learned a lot about Farley through the podcast, but

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to that. And then in a couple

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 2>of weeks from that, we're going to talk to Tom

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Wagner in his role as the head of Nighthead Capital

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>singer Revology Yota, a racing team that does WC World

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Endurance Racing, so they do Lamont and they even own

0:35:58.320 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 2>like a British soccer team.

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm really curious to talk to him. I've never met him.

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 5>Have you met him think cycling?

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I have in like not in a car guy sense,

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 2>but in a business sense, just in my role as

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<v Speaker 2>an anchor here over the last couple of years on

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomer Television, I've interviewed him, but I've never I never

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<v Speaker 2>realized that he was the head of this giant car

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<v Speaker 2>sports conglomerate.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm excited to uh to touch base with him.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an example of someone who's not famous and

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<v Speaker 1>not really a name outside of certain circles, but who

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<v Speaker 1>actually controls a lot and who has their hands in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different facets that affect a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different people.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, he's pretty famous because they unhurts. Also, Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you what are you driving this week? What

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<v Speaker 5>have you got going on in the car space?

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<v Speaker 1>I received the Mercedes Ban's e q E five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>in emerald green metallic.

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<v Speaker 5>This so not suv EQE Is it SUV?

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<v Speaker 4>It's a yeah, it's an SUV.

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<v Speaker 1>It's indistinguishable from the other eq E.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't make a great distinction between these products, with

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<v Speaker 2>the with the with the alpha numeric naming thing, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Difficult to remember which is which, and when all of

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<v Speaker 1>the names and numbers are very similar, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>all look extremely similar, it starts to feel a little

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<v Speaker 1>like alphabet soup.

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<v Speaker 5>Doesn't even look like an SUV. It's like a crossover.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it looks like a crossover.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is where Cadillac went with their latest Optic too,

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<v Speaker 1>where I truly did ask them. I said, this could

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<v Speaker 1>kind of be a wagon. It has hatchback, it's low,

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<v Speaker 1>it's long, and they're like, yeah, we're calling it an suv.

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<v Speaker 1>But but the lines are very blurred these days. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's tomato tomato almost.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks slick. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Indicial driving impressions are low. Let me put it that, really,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a vehicle you will want to purchase

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<v Speaker 1>if you at all enjoy the act of driving.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me put it that.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting because I like to eqs, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger version.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, this don't. Don't get this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if you want, if you want to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're driving fast or fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But I imagine it's still very comfy, packed with leather

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<v Speaker 2>and no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think I can't give it a full take

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<v Speaker 1>yet because I really have only had it for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours or thirty six hours.

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<v Speaker 5>But we'll circle back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need to circle back on it. The jury

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely still out. It certainly is not the high

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<v Speaker 1>end luxury experience that you might find in other Mercedes

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<v Speaker 1>Benz vehicles.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't gotten.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping for a slew of amazing vehicles later on

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<v Speaker 2>this summer. I really want to drive this right, the

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<v Speaker 2>Mustang dark Horse. I really want to drive the Corvette

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<v Speaker 2>E Ray after that. Have you seen the Jason Comissa

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<v Speaker 2>the Haggerdy video. I don't know why people do drag

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<v Speaker 2>races all the time, because I don't care about a

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<v Speaker 2>drag race. But he nails it with this video of

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<v Speaker 2>drag race. He does the E Ray versus a Lamborghini Hurricane.

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<v Speaker 2>A Ferrari is an F eight I think it's an

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<v Speaker 2>F eight and a and a Corvette Z six OK.

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<v Speaker 2>And interestingly, the E Ray clabbers them all, and but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a It's a more interesting video than just the

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<v Speaker 2>drag race. So I'm really excited to drive that. All

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<v Speaker 2>will drive plus a little a one point nine kilo watt,

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<v Speaker 2>which seems to be the sweet spot for hybrids because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what the size of the Porsche battery is too.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's interesting. But right now I'm driving the Kia Sorrento.

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<v Speaker 4>Why is that?

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<v Speaker 2>You would think that's lame, But I'll tell you so

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<v Speaker 2>when when when I get a press car, A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times i'll get a press car that, as I've said,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that exciting?

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<v Speaker 5>And I'd rather drive my Challenger.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, big HEMI more fun, I feel like exactly. So

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<v Speaker 2>this week I was driving the Challenger in and it

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<v Speaker 2>was raining a lot. I did some hydroplaning and I

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<v Speaker 2>knocked off some of the NVH material on the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the car. It was really scary, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>okay and the vehicle was pretty much okay. And then

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<v Speaker 2>so this morning I thought, it's raining again, let me

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<v Speaker 2>take the Kia.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was really good.

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<v Speaker 4>Is your wife's car?

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<v Speaker 5>No, the it's a press car.

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<v Speaker 4>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>The brand new Kia Sorrento.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks very cool, just like the tail ride looks

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<v Speaker 2>very cool. But I was never impressed with the taellur

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<v Speaker 2>ride motor. And okay, the motor's not the sweet spot

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<v Speaker 2>for the Kia Sorrento either, but it's just a really

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<v Speaker 2>nicely done package. The interior is intuitive, easy to use.

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<v Speaker 2>They have that cool tech where when you put on

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<v Speaker 2>a turn signal you see the camera view out that

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<v Speaker 2>side in your dash.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's the starting price?

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<v Speaker 5>I will google that for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm seeing them for low forties, high thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that seem fair based on what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 5>For sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially in today's market. Yeah, I think it looks

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. I got it in a very good color.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a gray, brownish gray. That's a nice that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't sound good, brownish gray, but it looks really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the parking lot attendant was like, Oh, I like

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<v Speaker 2>the color.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, at least it's not white, it's a generic white.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, I'm a fan of this brand and

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<v Speaker 2>Hyundai and Genesis.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a smart they're doing really smart stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So if the price is fair for what you get,

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<v Speaker 1>what more can you ask for?

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<v Speaker 3>True?

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<v Speaker 2>True, You're not gonna get down to BYD prices, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven thousand dollars for the seagull.

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<v Speaker 5>In any case, all right, I guess that's all we

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<v Speaker 5>have for today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Pursuit