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Speaker 2: First of all, I need to shout out the email

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Speaker 1: Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. And we do love

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Speaker 1: hearing from you.

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Speaker 3: We do.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I hear from people a lot

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Speaker 4: Oh you've heard that.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard that, But I mean I enjoy when

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Speaker 1: it's just us girls.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, me too. But we have

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Speaker 5: such a good guest. Well today, we have a great guest.

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Speaker 2: Next week, we have a great guest the follow So

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Speaker 2: we have a line We have a lineup of incredible guests.

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Speaker 2: But ever since I watched the five hundred, which I

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Speaker 2: was so excited about, and then Monaco, which left me

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Speaker 2: just questioning the entire league, I've really wanted to talk

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Speaker 2: to Zach Brown, so we got him.

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Speaker 4: I love talking to Zach Brown.

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Speaker 1: Because he is articulate and he is not so media

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Speaker 1: trained that he's really boring.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 5: I think he's just honest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just speaks in straight lines, there's no bs.

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Speaker 1: He answers questions directly. It's a dream and he's a

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Speaker 1: real Yeah, he's a real person.

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Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And so and obviously we watched Drive to Survive. You

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Speaker 2: see this like battle of this like Axis of Evil

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Speaker 2: or whatever. The it's like Darth Vader versus Darth Vader

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Speaker 2: when you have Toto and Christian. But I know, Toto

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Speaker 2: in real life is a nice guy. You've got Gunter.

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Speaker 2: You had Gunter who was like, you know, the crazy guy, a.

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Speaker 4: Great personality, and it was a it was a breath

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Speaker 2: I would see Zach because he was like down to earth,

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Speaker 2: honest dude. Plus he is like a young American, So

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Speaker 2: it's nice to see that, you know, in Formula one.

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Speaker 4: But anyways, crazy.

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Speaker 1: It is crazy though, how chill he comes off when

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Speaker 1: you consider everything he's running and operating, Yes, schedule mus

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Speaker 4: It's insane.

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Speaker 1: It's he's I mean, did you know that McLaren is

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Speaker 1: the only company to win the Indy five hundred twenty

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Speaker 2: I did not know that, but I know they've been

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Speaker 2: having an awesome time of it lately. Yeah, because they

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Speaker 2: came in second in the Indie. They were second at Monaco,

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Speaker 2: they were second before that, they were first. Obviously Lando

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Speaker 4: They're on an upswing for sure.

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Speaker 2: Let's get over to Zach Brown, CEO of McLaren without

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Speaker 2: any further ado. So my main question is around the

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Speaker 2: India was one of the best races I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I know it was painful for you guys because Paedo

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Speaker 2: but it was so dramatic and it was so emotional right,

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Speaker 2: and Monica was like the most boring race I've ever

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Speaker 3: I mean, Indy was unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: I read it was only the fourth time in the

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Speaker 3: It was amazing.

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Speaker 3: Now and go, that was boring. There was no passes.

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Speaker 3: Just never made a mistake. So I found them both exciting,

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Speaker 6: Charles did a great job. Just never made a mistake.

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Speaker 6: But two different types of racing, two different types of circuits.

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Speaker 6: One that has no passing, you know, Monica unique in

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Speaker 1: You know, McLaren is the only team that competes in

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Speaker 1: Formula one, IndyCar, Formula E, You've got Extreme E, you've

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Speaker 1: best practices for how this is sustainable for you? I

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Speaker 1: know you just renewed your contract until I think twenty thirty.

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Speaker 1: How are you finding your life sustainable? And even joyful.

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Speaker 1: I follow you on Instagram of course, and you've got

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Speaker 1: you seem very well at ease and like you're enjoying things,

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Speaker 6: It's all the above. First of all, I love my job.

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Speaker 6: I love McLaren. Always have my favorite team growing up,

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Speaker 6: and it's a privilege to work for McLaren. So it's

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Speaker 6: a pretty pretty cool job. That's a great place to

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Speaker 6: start from. The travels brutal. I think the secret to success,

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Speaker 6: you put them all together for our commercial partners, for

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Speaker 6: employee opportunity. I'm kind of the only fool that flies

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Speaker 3: But I love it. It's what I've been doing my

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Speaker 6: It certainly has its days where you know, you can

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Speaker 6: I'll do the same this weekend here in Montreal. I'll

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Speaker 6: be watching the Road America race and be dialed into Gavin.

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Speaker 6: He's running that team, so big organization, but we're in

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Speaker 6: the racing business and it's all running pretty smoothly. It

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Speaker 6: was great to in the same weekend finish second in

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Speaker 6: second in Monica. Bittersweet that they weren't three wins, but

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Speaker 1: The win in Miami was incredible.

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Speaker 4: I got to saw that too.

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Speaker 1: That must have felt like such a triumph for you

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Speaker 1: guys and most awesome in the US.

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think it was awesome for the sport. I think

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Speaker 6: bit less dominance. Everyone loves Lando. I've never met someone

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Speaker 1: I like that, and I like that you said the

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Speaker 1: less dominance turn of phrase that you had in there.

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Speaker 1: I have to imagine that next year, you know, with

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Speaker 3: So I think in any sport.

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Speaker 1: Are you saying that Indie needs a rebrand, a complete

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Speaker 1: You know, it is ironic that an American company, Liberty Media,

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Speaker 1: is the is, like you said, sort of the catalyst

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Speaker 1: to launching Formula one in the US and really making

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Speaker 1: it acceptable to American consumers. That just seems ironic. Does

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Speaker 1: it take an American sensibility to translate some of these

445
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Speaker 1: at least European style?

446
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Speaker 4: Raising?

447
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Speaker 2: Obviously glad they bought MotoGP yeah, which is already amazing.

448
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Speaker 6: I think they're gonna do great with Moto GP. I

449
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Speaker 6: think the you know, you never want to kind of

450
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Speaker 6: stereotype region. Sure, I think we've got to give a

451
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Speaker 6: lot of credit to Austin Coda. They did a fantastic

452
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Speaker 6: job during and Formula one back, and then it's just

453
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Speaker 6: built on itself, and you know, you need date equity.

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Speaker 3: People need to get familiar with the drivers.

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Speaker 6: And I think what Netflix did, especially in North America's

456
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Speaker 6: kind of lift the cover off of how does the

457
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Speaker 6: sport work, and the personalities and the drama and the politics,

458
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Speaker 6: and I think, you know, the American fan really likes

459
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Speaker 6: to get personal with their sport, and I think formerly One,

460
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Speaker 6: historically pre Liberty, been a little bit of a look

461
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Speaker 6: but don't touch type of sport, and now it's a

462
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Speaker 6: let us get to know these twenty awesome racing drivers

463
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Speaker 6: and the team bosses, and I think fans around the world,

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Speaker 6: and I think the reason why it's had such a

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Speaker 6: big impact in America's I think it's always been big

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Speaker 6: in Europe and understood, but it was.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like a.

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Speaker 6: Fresh sport to America and Netflix helped kind of put

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Speaker 6: that front and center, and people have responded and it's

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Speaker 6: been great. I get more commentary now from people in

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Speaker 6: America that go and it'll be a guy, a father,

472
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Speaker 6: a husband, and I can't tell you often he goes

473
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Speaker 6: my daughter loves Forem and my daughter loves Lando Norris

474
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Speaker 6: or my wife won't stop watching it. And what it's

475
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Speaker 6: done is it's taken, which is I think been the

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Speaker 6: most amazing part. It's taking people from having no awareness

477
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Speaker 6: to avid fan overnight. I hear so often I won't

478
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Speaker 6: miss a Grand Prix now versus I'm aware and I

479
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Speaker 6: kind of like it. They're like diehard fans. So it's

480
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Speaker 6: been amazing and we just need to continue to build

481
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Speaker 6: on that.

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Speaker 2: Does it make a difference to your sales, Zach, I mean,

483
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Speaker 2: especially as you guys have started on a winning run lately,

484
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Speaker 2: are you is it possible to sell more McLaren's.

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Speaker 4: Went on Sunday?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, exactly a good old phrase. It doesn't

487
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Speaker 6: quite work that easily. We don't see necessarily big spikes

488
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Speaker 6: on Monday, but you can see North America is our

489
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Speaker 6: biggest market for our automotive business and continues to grow,

490
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Speaker 6: and you can see how many McLaren automotive fans or

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Speaker 6: fans of the Formula One team and vice versa. So

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Speaker 6: we're fortunate, like a few others in the sport where

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Speaker 6: we've got these two awesome brands in the world to

494
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Speaker 6: collide and and we help scratch each other's back.

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Speaker 4: If you like, what do you drive?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? What do you What do you like to drive?

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Speaker 6: Well, my my daily driver is a bit more of

498
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Speaker 6: a range rover because it's not the easiest place in

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Speaker 6: the world to navigate. Of course, I've got my McLaren's

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Speaker 6: in the garage. But I'm a I'm a car junkie.

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Speaker 6: So if your name is sports car, I've got one

502
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Speaker 6: of those.

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Speaker 4: So can you collect too, right? Memorabilia? Sports memorabilia.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a big baseball fan, ice hockey fan as

505
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Speaker 6: far as collecting collectible documents, so I've got a uh,

506
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Speaker 6: pretty awesome collection. It's all my childhood uh dreams, and

507
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Speaker 6: I wanted to be a baseball player an ice hockey player.

508
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Speaker 3: Didn't quite work out. But I'm fortunate now.

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Speaker 6: A lot of baseball players, hockey players, golfers I just

510
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Speaker 6: came back from the memorial or fans of the sport.

511
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Speaker 6: So it's a it's a privilege being in the position

512
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Speaker 6: I'm in to be able to meet a lot of

513
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Speaker 6: my heroes and idols growing up. I don't think they

514
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Speaker 6: quite realize it, because I think they're equally as excited

515
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Speaker 6: to kind of come to a Formula One race. But

516
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Speaker 6: it's pretty cool having Albert PUOs and Paul Goldschmidt and

517
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Speaker 6: Timo Solani, and as I mentioned, I'm when I have

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Speaker 6: dinner with Mark Messier, who I've not met through a

519
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Speaker 6: mutual friend, which I'm very excited because I grew up

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Speaker 6: watching Mark. He's an awesome player, and so excited to

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Speaker 6: meet him. It makes me feel like I'm thirteen fourteen again,

522
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Speaker 6: even though they probably don't appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Dating them now, I want.

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Speaker 1: To ask, I see you drinking something out of a

525
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Speaker 1: tea cup. I imagine it's tea. How has it been

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Speaker 1: as an American living in the UK.

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Speaker 4: You know, do you find.

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Speaker 1: Yourself adjusting to quirky British lifestyles?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: But you know, back when I was racing, I lived

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Speaker 6: in England, so I live there from ninety one to

532
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Speaker 6: ninety four. I've been there now, it's about twelve years.

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Speaker 6: I love Europe, love England. I love traveling, always been

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Speaker 6: a fan of it. I definitely think I've picked up

535
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Speaker 6: some of the the the quirks if you'd like to

536
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Speaker 6: call them that, But I haven't left my American ones

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Speaker 6: behind it all, so I'm a bit of a mutt.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: No one can quite figure out my accent or but

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Speaker 6: it still kind of sounds the same to me.

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Speaker 2: By the way, when I'm looking through bring a trailer,

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Speaker 2: which is like an addiction for me. It annoys me

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Speaker 2: when I see a right hand drive car that I

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Speaker 2: want because it's just it's just wrong.

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Speaker 5: Do you buy right hand drive cars? I mean, for

546
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Speaker 5: your car, I got.

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Speaker 3: A bit of everything.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if I have a choice, then I'm buying

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Speaker 6: a left hand drive, but I have both in the

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Speaker 6: in the collection.

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Speaker 3: It kind of depends.

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Speaker 6: If it's a British car, you're gonna end up with

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Speaker 6: a right hand drive, you know, as it should be

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Speaker 6: by plenty of left hand drive.

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Speaker 3: I'd say I'm probably three corps.

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Speaker 2: When you want a car, do you know what you

557
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Speaker 2: want and find it or do you look around and

558
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Speaker 2: something strikes you're fancy and you're like, oh, i'd like that.

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Speaker 6: It kind of depends if it's a roadcar, if it's

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Speaker 6: a race car. If it's a roadcar, I know what

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Speaker 6: I want. I kind of know where to go. I've

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Speaker 6: got a few dealer friends if you like, that will

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Speaker 6: sort me out. If it's a race car, you can

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Speaker 6: either kind of react. So one that i'd been chasing

565
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 6: for years was Nigel Mantle's in the championship car from

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Speaker 6: nineteen ninety three, never had any success, and then Newman

567
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Speaker 6: Hass put it up for auction and I was all

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Speaker 6: over that. So the race cars, you kind of know

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Speaker 6: what you want, but they're not necessarily always for sales,

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Speaker 6: So sometimes it's reacting when you see something that comes

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Speaker 6: on the market.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the price goes up when people realize

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Speaker 1: who they're selling to, or do you try to keep

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Speaker 1: it a little anonymous if you're interested.

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Speaker 6: It kind of depends who it is and what it is.

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Speaker 6: You know, you mentioned to bring a trailer. That was

577
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Speaker 6: one where I I hid, you know, handle it. No,

578
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Speaker 6: I had a friend do it for me, a buddy

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Speaker 6: named Alan. Where McLaren's motor home from nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 6: And I bought this a few years ago, and I

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Speaker 6: think at one auction story of the the year where

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Speaker 6: it was McLaren's nineteen seventy two motor home. It was awesome,

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Speaker 6: a Ford Condor, and I was like, I definitely have

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Speaker 6: to have this, but I don't want anyone to know

585
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Speaker 6: who's bidding for it. And the owner had had it

586
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Speaker 6: for quite some time, so I had my buddy bid.

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Speaker 6: He won it, and then everyone it was quite a

588
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Speaker 6: little bit of a bidding war, and then my buddy said, well,

589
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Speaker 6: you're never going to outbid the CEO of McLaren And

590
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 6: then everyone just went nuts, including the owner, who had

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Speaker 6: a bit of a tiary moment because he had it

592
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Speaker 6: for quite some time. He wanted to go to the

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Speaker 6: right home and you know, one new and that then

594
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 6: became quite a cool story. And I love sharing the

595
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 6: history of the sport with everyone. I'm happy to share

596
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 6: that I'm the biggest fan of motorsports and the history

597
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 6: of the sports, so I feel like it's part of

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Speaker 6: my role. I remember what an impression when I went

599
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 6: to the Long Beach Grand Prix in nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 6: It made on me as a ten year old, and

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Speaker 6: so I feel part of my role at McLaren is

602
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Speaker 6: to share how cool this sport is with the fans.

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00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 6: So I'm always stopping and talking to them, happy to

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Speaker 6: share these stories. And when you get into the car

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00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 6: collection and things of that nature. You know, while I

606
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 6: have them in my racing facility, we get them out.

607
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 6: I like to share them, like to tell people the

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Speaker 6: stories because I know what an impression it made on me,

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Speaker 6: and I hope that someone, you know, ten twenty thirty

610
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Speaker 6: years from now goes. I remember meeting Zach and it

611
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 6: was cool. He let me look at the car, introduce

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Speaker 6: me to Lando. We stop and talk to me, because

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Speaker 6: that's what our sport is about. It's about the fans.

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Speaker 2: By the way, on that note, do you and you

615
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: mentioned bring more women in the sport?

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Speaker 5: And Hannah and I talk a lot about the.

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Speaker 2: Academy and trying to get more women to drive. How

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Speaker 2: do you groom young talent? Do you have specific programs

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Speaker 2: for that? When you're talking to little girls and boys,

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Speaker 2: do you say, hey, you guys should try doing some

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00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: laps in the go cart? I mean, how does that work?

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00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know.

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Speaker 6: One, it's about creating awareness so people you want to

624
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 6: get involved in motorsports. Obviously the driving is the most

625
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 6: famous part, but you know, it's important to us to

626
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 6: get young boys and girls involved in all aspects of

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Speaker 6: the sport, whether they want to be engineers or marketeers.

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00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 6: Or racing drivers, whatever the case may be. So a

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Speaker 6: lot of it is about just creating awareness so there's

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Speaker 6: excitement to participate, and then it's about creating opportunity, so

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Speaker 6: we have we just announced a program called sixty Scholars.

632
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 6: Last year was our sixty year birthday and it was

633
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 6: sixty opportunities for young women ages eighteen to twenty three

634
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 6: to get involved with McLaren around STEM. So we're just

635
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 6: trying to create awareness opportunity. It's why we got involved

636
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 6: in extremely where you have a male and female racing driver.

637
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Speaker 6: So we had, for the first ever time a couple

638
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Speaker 6: of years ago, announced first ever female McLaren racing driver.

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Speaker 6: We've extended that to the F one Academy, which is

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00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 6: an all female racing series. So we're doing everything we

641
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 6: can to create awareness, to create opportunity, to have a

642
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 6: more diverse workforce and fan base, and it's exciting.

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Speaker 1: So that was Zach Brown, and Wow, what a treat

644
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: to have him. He always says something that is new

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00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: or interesting or just sort of changes how I understand

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Speaker 1: racing and American car culture.

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Speaker 4: I really he's great.

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00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for example, the fact that F one could

650
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: possibly go without Monaco He made me kind of understand

651
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: that in a way that I haven't been thinking about

652
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. Like not that they don't want

653
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: to and he doesn't think they will, but they could

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Speaker 2: survive because they're strong enough that they don't need it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's probably the voice of reason, like, yes,

656
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Speaker 1: everyone will freak out, and then everyone will get on

657
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: with their life and you know, they'll move on.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting also to think about IndyCar just doesn't do

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Speaker 2: enough to promote itself and I don't know, they're obviously

660
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Speaker 2: not as big and global, but Liberty has really worked

661
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Speaker 2: some magic with F one. They're gonna be able to

662
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Speaker 2: do that easily with Moto GP, which is on the

663
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Speaker 2: rise in an amazing series anyway, But imagine if that

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Speaker 2: touch could come over to it to Indy.

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Speaker 4: That would honestly be awesome. Yeah, that'd be really cool.

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Speaker 5: So we have a couple of other great guests in

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Speaker 5: the next few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's safe to tease Jim Farley of

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Speaker 2: Ford and get his take. He's a huge racing fan

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Speaker 2: as well. They're now involved with F one as well.

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Speaker 2: He has a I think at least a couple but

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Speaker 2: maybe a collection of old racing cars that he likes.

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Speaker 2: I saw him out on a in a nineteen seventy

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Speaker 2: two Lola once set.

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Speaker 5: A track in Dearborne.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's another one that's like just a dude,

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Speaker 1: Like he's a big boss. He's he's very powerful, but

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Speaker 1: then when you talk to him.

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Speaker 4: He's like a dude.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: It's really interesting.

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Speaker 5: With also a great podcast.

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Speaker 2: I've learned a lot about Farley through the podcast, but

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that. And then in a couple

685
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Speaker 2: of weeks from that, we're going to talk to Tom

686
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Speaker 2: Wagner in his role as the head of Nighthead Capital

687
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Speaker 2: singer Revology Yota, a racing team that does WC World

688
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Speaker 2: Endurance Racing, so they do Lamont and they even own

689
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Speaker 2: like a British soccer team.

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Speaker 4: I'm really curious to talk to him. I've never met him.

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Speaker 5: Have you met him think cycling?

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Speaker 2: I have in like not in a car guy sense,

693
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Speaker 2: but in a business sense, just in my role as

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Speaker 2: an anchor here over the last couple of years on

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Speaker 2: Bloomer Television, I've interviewed him, but I've never I never

696
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Speaker 2: realized that he was the head of this giant car

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Speaker 2: sports conglomerate.

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited to uh to touch base with him.

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Speaker 1: This is an example of someone who's not famous and

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Speaker 1: not really a name outside of certain circles, but who

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Speaker 1: actually controls a lot and who has their hands in

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Speaker 1: a lot of different facets that affect a lot of

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Speaker 1: different people.

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Speaker 5: Right, he's pretty famous because they unhurts. Also, Okay, fine,

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Speaker 5: what do you what are you driving this week? What

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Speaker 5: have you got going on in the car space?

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Speaker 1: I received the Mercedes Ban's e q E five hundred

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Speaker 1: in emerald green metallic.

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Speaker 5: This so not suv EQE Is it SUV?

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Speaker 4: It's a yeah, it's an SUV.

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Speaker 1: It's indistinguishable from the other eq E.

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Speaker 2: They don't make a great distinction between these products, with

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Speaker 2: the with the with the alpha numeric naming thing, it's.

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Speaker 1: Difficult to remember which is which, and when all of

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Speaker 1: the names and numbers are very similar, and then they

716
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: all look extremely similar, it starts to feel a little

717
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Speaker 1: like alphabet soup.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't even look like an SUV. It's like a crossover.

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Speaker 4: Well, it looks like a crossover.

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Speaker 1: But this is where Cadillac went with their latest Optic too,

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Speaker 1: where I truly did ask them. I said, this could

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Speaker 1: kind of be a wagon. It has hatchback, it's low,

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Speaker 1: it's long, and they're like, yeah, we're calling it an suv.

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Speaker 1: But but the lines are very blurred these days. I

725
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Speaker 1: mean it's tomato tomato almost.

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Speaker 5: It looks slick. I mean.

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Speaker 1: Indicial driving impressions are low. Let me put it that, really,

728
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: this is not a vehicle you will want to purchase

729
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Speaker 1: if you at all enjoy the act of driving.

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Speaker 4: Let me put it that.

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Speaker 2: Interesting because I like to eqs, which is, you know,

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Speaker 2: the bigger version.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, this don't. Don't get this one.

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Speaker 1: Then if you want, if you want to feel like

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Speaker 1: you're driving fast or fun.

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Speaker 2: But I imagine it's still very comfy, packed with leather

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Speaker 2: and no.

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Speaker 1: No, I think I can't give it a full take

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Speaker 1: yet because I really have only had it for twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours or thirty six hours.

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Speaker 5: But we'll circle back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to circle back on it. The jury

743
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Speaker 1: is definitely still out. It certainly is not the high

744
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Speaker 1: end luxury experience that you might find in other Mercedes

745
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Speaker 1: Benz vehicles.

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Speaker 5: I haven't gotten.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping for a slew of amazing vehicles later on

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Speaker 2: this summer. I really want to drive this right, the

749
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: Mustang dark Horse. I really want to drive the Corvette

750
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Speaker 2: E Ray after that. Have you seen the Jason Comissa

751
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: the Haggerdy video. I don't know why people do drag

752
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: races all the time, because I don't care about a

753
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: drag race. But he nails it with this video of

754
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: drag race. He does the E Ray versus a Lamborghini Hurricane.

755
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: A Ferrari is an F eight I think it's an

756
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Speaker 2: F eight and a and a Corvette Z six OK.

757
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: And interestingly, the E Ray clabbers them all, and but

758
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Speaker 2: it's a It's a more interesting video than just the

759
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Speaker 2: drag race. So I'm really excited to drive that. All

760
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Speaker 2: will drive plus a little a one point nine kilo watt,

761
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: which seems to be the sweet spot for hybrids because

762
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Speaker 2: that's what the size of the Porsche battery is too.

763
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Speaker 5: So that's interesting. But right now I'm driving the Kia Sorrento.

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Speaker 4: Why is that?

765
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Speaker 2: You would think that's lame, But I'll tell you so

766
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Speaker 2: when when when I get a press car, A lot

767
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Speaker 2: of times i'll get a press car that, as I've said,

768
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Speaker 2: isn't that exciting?

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Speaker 5: And I'd rather drive my Challenger.

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Speaker 2: Sure, big HEMI more fun, I feel like exactly. So

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Speaker 2: this week I was driving the Challenger in and it

772
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Speaker 2: was raining a lot. I did some hydroplaning and I

773
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Speaker 2: knocked off some of the NVH material on the bottom

774
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Speaker 2: of the car. It was really scary, but I was

775
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Speaker 2: okay and the vehicle was pretty much okay. And then

776
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Speaker 2: so this morning I thought, it's raining again, let me

777
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Speaker 2: take the Kia.

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Speaker 5: And it was really good.

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Speaker 4: Is your wife's car?

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Speaker 5: No, the it's a press car.

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Speaker 4: It's okay.

782
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 5: The brand new Kia Sorrento.

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Speaker 2: It looks very cool, just like the tail ride looks

784
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: very cool. But I was never impressed with the taellur

785
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Speaker 2: ride motor. And okay, the motor's not the sweet spot

786
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: for the Kia Sorrento either, but it's just a really

787
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Speaker 2: nicely done package. The interior is intuitive, easy to use.

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00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: They have that cool tech where when you put on

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Speaker 2: a turn signal you see the camera view out that

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Speaker 2: side in your dash.

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Speaker 4: And what's the starting price?

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Speaker 5: I will google that for you.

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00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seeing them for low forties, high thirties.

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Speaker 1: Does that seem fair based on what you're saying?

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00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 5: For sure?

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00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in today's market. Yeah, I think it looks

797
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: pretty cool. I got it in a very good color.

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00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: It's like a gray, brownish gray. That's a nice that

799
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: doesn't sound good, brownish gray, but it looks really cool.

800
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Speaker 2: Even the parking lot attendant was like, Oh, I like

801
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: the color.

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00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: You know, at least it's not white, it's a generic white.

803
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, I'm a fan of this brand and

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Speaker 2: Hyundai and Genesis.

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Speaker 4: It's a smart they're doing really smart stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So if the price is fair for what you get,

808
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: what more can you ask for?

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Speaker 3: True?

810
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: True, You're not gonna get down to BYD prices, you know,

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Speaker 2: eleven thousand dollars for the seagull.

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Speaker 5: In any case, all right, I guess that's all we

813
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Speaker 5: have for today.

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is

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Speaker 1: Hot Pursuit