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Speaker 2: My sister is having unrealistic financial demands for her wedding

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Speaker 2: and it turned into drama.

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Speaker 1: Let's be realistic here so we don't have any drama.

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Speaker 2: A little background. I am the second youngest of five kids.

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Speaker 2: My older siblings are two brothers and one older sister

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Speaker 2: who we'll call E for the purposes of this post.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user cute quarter ninety

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Speaker 2: three ninety nine on the r slash Okay Storytime subreddit.

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Speaker 2: So Even and I have a five year age gap,

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Speaker 2: and as a result, we never really had that sisterly

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Speaker 2: bond you would expect most sisters to have growing up.

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Speaker 2: I was always a burden to her, and anytime it

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Speaker 2: was my turn to pick the family movie or really anything,

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Speaker 2: she would get upset, the reason being that she had

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Speaker 2: control issues as early as nine. So I'm guessing you

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Speaker 2: can already see where I'm going with this. I'm currently eighteen,

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Speaker 2: about to turn nineteen, and Eve turned twenty four earlier

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Speaker 2: this year. Her boyfriend, A who I will call Alan

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Speaker 2: or Adam Adam, Sorry I.

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Speaker 1: Missed you missed the tune. I missed the tea up there.

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Speaker 2: Adam proposed to her at a family beach day earlier

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Speaker 2: in June of this year. It was one of those

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Speaker 2: big white letters in rose pedals proposals, which he set

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Speaker 2: up before my family arrived. She was thrilled, said yes,

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Speaker 2: and my parents were very happy, along with my older siblings.

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Speaker 1: The youngest is four, so I don't think she understood

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Speaker 1: what was happening. WHOA, those are big age yaps. I

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Speaker 1: mean twenty four nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the drama there it is. Since the proposal,

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Speaker 2: she has gone into full bride zilla mode. At the

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Speaker 2: behest of my mom, Eve made me a bridesmaid, so

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Speaker 2: now I'm roped into all the bs and so far,

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Speaker 2: these are the demands my sister has made. Number one,

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Speaker 2: all bridesmaids are to pay for their own dresses, which

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Speaker 2: is three hundred dollars in blush pink shoes, hair and makeup.

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Speaker 2: Number two, all bridesmaids need to attend all wedding and

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Speaker 2: bacheloretta events, including the eight hundred dollars bachelorette spa day,

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Speaker 2: the bachelorette vacation weekend in Toronto and staying at the

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Speaker 2: Fairmont Hotel, which is one thousand dollars just for the hotel.

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Speaker 1: The dress appointments, even.

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Speaker 2: If it's just for the bride, all alterations covered by

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Speaker 2: the person themselves three hundred dollar dress plus approximately three

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Speaker 2: like the cake, the venue, the catering they need to attend,

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Speaker 2: party need to pay one hundred and fifty dollars to

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Speaker 2: preserve their spots, and gifts have to be either cash

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Speaker 2: a spreadsheet of what everyone is gifting and is said

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Speaker 2: she will return items that aren't from her registry or

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Speaker 2: match her theme. My mom says, all this is bride anxiety,

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Speaker 2: and I say it's just my sister trying to control

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Speaker 2: everything because she wants a December wedding on a ski hill.

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Speaker 2: Lill Anyways, I figure if people are interested, I could

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Speaker 2: update periodically on what happens and edit to add I realized.

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Speaker 1: I didn't include the controlling parts. My bad. Here they go.

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Speaker 2: So all the bride'smaids need to go get hair and

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Speaker 2: skin appointments every six weeks to ensure our hair and

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Speaker 2: they're paying for that out of pocket.

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Speaker 1: I think everything that's going to be accommodated here is

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Speaker 2: Out of Anyone with tattoos needs to cover them. Our

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Speaker 2: dresses are going to do that. They go to the neck, ankles,

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Speaker 2: sleeveless showing her tattoos and colorful hair style. Either we

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Speaker 2: or wear a wig at our expense. The dresses only

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Speaker 2: come in sizes double zero to ten, which is a

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Speaker 1: I'm not going, I'm out. I'm not going. No one.

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Speaker 2: None of the vendors are to communicate directly to the

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Speaker 2: She made a Gmail with last name Wedding, which we

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Speaker 1: We should just know.

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Speaker 2: This is the part that stresses mom out. We need

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Speaker 2: Y'all are making me realize my family is not normal.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to look into therapy with my university and

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Speaker 2: seeing if I can move into residence earlier. I want

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Speaker 2: to thank the person who private messaged me about getting

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Speaker 2: my mom off my bank account and also get my

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Speaker 2: birth certificate. I think I'm going to do that after

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Speaker 2: I talk to the people at the bank. I texted

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Speaker 2: my mom I'm at work right now if her dad

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Speaker 2: and I can talk about it while sister is gone

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Speaker 2: to her fiances for the night. I'm hoping to show

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Speaker 2: my mom and dad this post to help them understand

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Speaker 2: where I'm coming from.

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Speaker 1: There's a third at it.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take some time away from this all

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Speaker 2: just because a lot of you are right. This isn't normal.

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Speaker 2: Our relationship as a family is not normal. I called

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Speaker 2: you who don't know, she's my godmother, and she thinks

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Speaker 2: my mom is nuts, and we talked about it. She's

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Speaker 2: encouraging me to talk to my parents about everything, not

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Speaker 2: only the wedding but favoritism since childhood. And she's also

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Speaker 2: I talk. And now we have the big update, But

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Speaker 2: before that, where's the husband and all of this probably

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Speaker 1: I feel like he hasn't had any say, but we

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Speaker 1: But good on ope that she's realizing I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: someone who's family but not really family, and they're they're

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Speaker 1: backing me up. All right, let's get into this update.

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Speaker 2: Firstly, I just wanted to apologize for how long this

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Speaker 3: So without a further a deal, here's the update.

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Speaker 2: As you can expect, this update is not the best,

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Speaker 2: but not really for the reasons you might think. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I have a text limit, so apologize

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Speaker 2: if there's a part two link below. So turns out

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Speaker 2: my dad never knew the whole story. He knew he

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Speaker 2: bank records that my parents had been setting up twenty

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Speaker 2: The rule was that these accounts could be used for anything.

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Speaker 2: I had just turned nineteen and my dad was getting

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Speaker 2: ready to sign the money over to me when we

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Speaker 2: had this conversation which caused a bit of a blow up.

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Speaker 2: But right now I need to give some background info

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Speaker 2: I was given. So right after sister got engaged, she

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Speaker 2: apparently had a conversation with my mom about how she

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Speaker 2: always felt like the child the left out. She's used

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Speaker 2: Sister did this because again she is a master manipulator.

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Speaker 2: Side note, thank you to the wonderful redditors who sent

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Speaker 2: me to various subredits for narcissism and support, along.

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Speaker 1: With those who sent articles on it to me.

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Speaker 2: She used some of my mom's mental and physical health

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Speaker 1: When I was born, Mom went through very bad.

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Speaker 2: funny story for us as a family. Turns out that's

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Speaker 2: a coping mechanism. Over my childhood's sister has used manipulation

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Speaker 2: the wedding too. Mom and felt bad and decided to

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Speaker 2: As sister grew up, it wasn't little toys and candy anymore,

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Speaker 2: but girls' trips. And as a result of this, Dad

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Speaker 1: Well, guess what, Guess what, Dakota, If I go to therapy,

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Speaker 2: we're going to pay the cancelation fee for the loan

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Speaker 2: into something called a TFSA for later in life. Well,

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Speaker 2: Mom and I still have a somewhat rocky relationship, and

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Speaker 2: your right. That's your sister's fault, not your fault. Right,

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Speaker 1: Fault, right, I just help your friend say.

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Speaker 2: Because of this, she has banned me from the wedding

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Speaker 2: really see it as losing a sister. I see it

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Speaker 2: I covered everything that needs to be covered, but if

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Speaker 2: you guys have any questions, feel free to ask them.

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Speaker 2: I'm very thankful for the subreddit for teaching me what

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Speaker 2: and communication. Have an amazing life, you gorgeous humans. And

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Speaker 2: we have a third update. Hey everyone, I figured i'd

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Speaker 2: update since it's been a very long time. Ooh, I

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Speaker 2: apologize I lost the log into this account, but I

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Speaker 2: just found it. So here's the update. Family therapy is

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Speaker 2: going really well. My two brothers were given temporary leave

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Speaker 2: after this to help the family therapy process. Our family

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with her. A friend

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Speaker 2: The wedding was moved up to November twenty sixth instead

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Speaker 2: I go back home once a month for in person therapy,

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Speaker 2: of that, my oldest brother is getting married. So while

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Speaker 2: I lost a terrible sister, I gained an amazing sister

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Speaker 2: despite being provinces away. She's so so sweet. She asked

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Speaker 2: She's an only child and her mother passed away, and

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is this is just like perfect.

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Speaker 1: You eliminated the evil sister and you got the good

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Speaker 3: What is it that one at one bad apple can

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Speaker 1: Guess what you kick away that bad apple.

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Speaker 2: By this time next year, I'll have an official new sister.

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Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot else to say. But I

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Speaker 2: I guess I couldn't get away from it, and very

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Speaker 2: supportive in loving. Our six month anniversary is in January

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking forward to it. Anyways, Thank you so much, Reddit.

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Speaker 2: You are all amazing, beautiful, soulful humans, and I hope

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Speaker 2: you all have prosperous, healthy and fruitful lives. I love

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Speaker 2: you all sincerely. Hute quarter nine, three ninety nine. And

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Speaker 2: there's a fourth update.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where we did we need a fourth update.

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Speaker 1: Let's find out. I don't know. Maybe this is an

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Speaker 2: People wanted to know what happened at the wedding yesterday,

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Speaker 2: so I shall provide the update. My family and I

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Speaker 2: her now husband's family filled me in. Not a whole

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Speaker 2: lot happened at the ceremony. The mother of the groom

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Speaker 2: but no true drama happened until the reception.

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Speaker 1: Oooh.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if you want more full episodes

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Speaker 2: with dramatic duc stories just like this one, all you

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Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your podcast and search Okay

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Speaker 2: story time to find full episodes with stories like this

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Speaker 2: will be shouting in your ears happy for op Op

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Speaker 2: is one. The family knows that the sister is bad news.

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Speaker 2: What's gonna happen here?

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Speaker 1: I feel like the reception, they'll be like, where's your fan? Wait,

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Speaker 1: where's your fan? Why is your family not here? I

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Speaker 1: think she's gonna storm out of her own wedding. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I think the weddingsold be fine. I think the weddings

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Speaker 1: be fine. I think it's just not no. I mean

438
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,120
Speaker 1: the reception, not her ceremony. But she's she's gonna leave

439
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,640
Speaker 1: her own shindig early. I don't make a big scene

440
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 1: of it. That's my guest. I think she's like, if

441
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,640
Speaker 1: you talk about my family, you're out. Don't talk about

442
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,159
Speaker 1: my family. They're not here for a reason. It's my wedding,

443
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 1: my rules, go away. Oh she's gonna kick other people out.

444
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 1: I can see that happen.

445
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, okay, because guess what this wedding's like

446
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 3: going her way.

447
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 2: Guys, that is so dumb. If you're going to a wedding,

448
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 2: do not wear white. It's so easy, you know what.

449
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 1: This is the one time I'm.

450
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 2: Like eh, I mean yes ha, but like, come on, man,

451
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: here's the rest of the story. So I somewhat feel

452
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 2: bad for my sister because of this. But the mother

453
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 2: of the groom invited one of the groom's exes.

454
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 1: I was not on our bingo card. Oh.

455
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 2: I guess that was in the hopes that it would

456
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 2: break them up, but it didn't work. She tried to

457
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 2: get between my sister and her now husband, but her

458
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: husband and I gave him props for this told her

459
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 2: to leave. Honestly, all around, it wasn't dramatic. They made

460
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: it to the altar and are leaving for their honeymoon

461
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 2: today or tomorrow. But one thing that was confirmed is

462
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 2: my sister is definitely pregnant. At the end of the

463
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 2: wedding speeches, the groom gave his speech with a slide show,

464
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 2: with the last slide being an ultrasound picture and the

465
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: baby last name due June twenty twenty three. Sorry it

466
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 2: isn't much of an update. Well, don't apologize because that

467
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 2: was a great story, great story, and it has come

468
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 2: to an end. You know, Good on Uop. You did

469
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: what you needed to do. Happy that your family opened

470
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,959
Speaker 2: their eyes. They opened your eyes and your sister you're fan.

471
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 2: Family knows, and clearly the groom's mom also knows.

472
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: The groom's not get a whole their bag that I

473
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: don't want to open right now, trying to sabotage the wedding.

474
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: We probably can't have my son be married to this monster.

475
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. We may have read it. Yeah, who knows,

476
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: who knows? Who knows? Congrats that you found a sister

477
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 1: in law in replace of your evils. That's the end

478
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: of that story. But don't go anyway because we got

479
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: another one coming and ride up, stick around. My brother

480
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: was being awful to my sister in law while she

481
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: was in labor, so I kicked him out. Yeah, as

482
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: you should.

483
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 2: Why are you adding more labor to the woman who's

484
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: already laboring.

485
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: That's a stinky move. Hi guys, before we go into

486
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: the story, there's going to be a trigger warning. There

487
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: is intense labor mentioned this and needle talk as well.

488
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: Though if you do not like that or that makes

489
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: you squirm, please go to another story of where we

490
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 1: have plenty of those. But again that is the trigger warning.

491
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 1: My mother called me this morning and asked me if

492
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: I could please go to the hospital because my sister

493
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: in law was in labor and had my mom kicked

494
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: out of the room. I was confused and asked if

495
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: my brother wasn't there with her. Mom said that he

496
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: had been there, but sister in law had just called

497
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: in panic because brother had seizure and they had taken

498
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: him down to the er. She didn't want to be

499
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: in labor alone. Mom had gone to work after being

500
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: kicked out and didn't want to leave. Though she called me.

501
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: I reluctantly agreed to go Dirrettie Family Drama, but honestly

502
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: was more concern with sister in law. I understand not

503
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 1: wanting to labor alone, having nearly had to do so

504
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: myself during the VID. By the way, this comes from

505
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: a user no statement in sixteen forty two on the

506
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: art slash Okay Storytime suppurated it. I got to the

507
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: hospital and into the room right as they were trying

508
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: to put an ivy in sistern I saw the nurse

509
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: stick it in sister in law. She missed and then

510
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: start a fish and sister in law started screaming. Immediately,

511
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 1: I snapped at the nurse, do not dig for a vein.

512
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: The nurse stopped and I said I wasn't digging, and

513
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: sister in law begged her to take it out. Please

514
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: don't poke me anymore, stop torturing me. And the nurse said,

515
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: we have to get an ivy into you. You have

516
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: strap b. If you don't let me get it into

517
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: your arm, I'm gonna have to go between your toes again.

518
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: I stepped forward and said, don't scare her, give her

519
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: a minute, let her drink some water to hydrate and

520
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: try again. Do you have an IVY team? The nurse

521
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: was very nice and said no, we're too small of

522
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: a hospital for that, but I can get someone else

523
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: to try. I then said, okay, and what about putting

524
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: the ivy higher up on the forearm where their veins

525
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: are thicker. It will hurt less going in. She's less

526
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: likely to bend it in her elbow or wrist while

527
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 1: holding the baby or laboring, and you can numb it

528
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: with some topical little cane before you stick it in

529
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: her to help with her anxiety. The nurse said she

530
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: would mention it to who she was going to get,

531
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: and then when when she was gone, sister in law

532
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: wiped her face and said, thanks for saying something. She

533
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: stuck me six times and missed every time. What is

534
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: this hospital? Not it? This is a nightmare hospital. Somewhere

535
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: else did then my brother came back from the er

536
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: and just sat in another chair. Yet I said that

537
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: was quick, and all he said was I refuse treatment.

538
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: The nurse returned with the nurse supervisor, who did what

539
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: I asked, and she got the ivy in one take

540
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: and with much less pain. Cistern law then asked for

541
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: some water and I gave her some, which she promptly

542
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: started the chug and I snatched it her away, advising

543
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: her to take SIPs or she'd make herself sick. She

544
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: apologized and said she knew, but she hasn't drank anything

545
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: all night. Roum pain. Brother chimed in and said, bass

546
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: or excuse for everything? Oh it hurts too much. Oh

547
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm in too much pain. I hurt too. My back

548
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: hurts all the time, every day, constantly. You don't hear

549
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: me complaining. I just looked at him and said, labor

550
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: pain is different. He scoffed and went, whatever, I tried

551
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: to talk about my pain, but it isn't important. It

552
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Again, I responded, I didn't say that I

553
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: have fibromyalgia and inflammatory arthritis. I have chronic back pain too.

554
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: My back hurts every day constantly, and I've given birth twice.

555
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's not the same. I didn't say

556
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't important or that it didn't ma. I said

557
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: it's not the same. Aper pain hurts in an entirely

558
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: different way than that back pain. Though. Then a contraction

559
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: hit and sister in law started moaning and chanting that

560
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: she wanted an epidural, and brother turned on her and said,

561
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: you can't have one. The doctor said you couldn't because

562
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: your blood pressure is low and epidural can make it

563
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: bottom out and make you need a C section. Mom

564
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: tried to tell you that, and you got pissed off

565
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: and had her kicked out because you wouldn't listen this

566
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: stern law yelled back, I know I can't have one,

567
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: but that doesn't stop me from wanting one. I had

568
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: one with my other two kids. I've never had a

569
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: natural birth before I am scared. This is like a

570
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: horror movie. I'm sorry, this is good. We need to

571
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: do a graphical. This is a very graphical, intense story. Ah,

572
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: the picture becomes clear. Mom probably did the same thing

573
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: that the brother is doing and yelled at sistern law

574
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: because she heard her wishing for an epidural, and sister

575
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: in law asked her to leave. Brother continues, You've been

576
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: doing this crap all night, saying one thing and then

577
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: two seconds later contradicting yourself.

578
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 2: Can we can we not be talking like this the

579
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: woman giving birth?

580
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: Please? Can you not tell that this person, this woman

581
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: in labor, is so stressed out, is frightened to heck yeah,

582
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: and you're making it a trilling times. I stepped in

583
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: again enough, There's no reason to be so nasty. Insert

584
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: brother's name. This isn't your first child. You took parenting

585
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: in labor classes. They tell you in those classes not

586
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: to take anything a woman says in labor personally or

587
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: to heart, because she doesn't mean it. She is flooded

588
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: with hormones and pain. You know that well. I already

589
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: told her that if she couldn't control herself, did not

590
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: expect me to control myself. I was gonna be just

591
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: as mean as nasty as she is. Op says, The

592
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: nurses here aren't gonna let you do that. They will

593
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: remove you from here. This is the brother. Well, then

594
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: I'll just effing leave, Opie. Then leave now, OPI looks

595
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: at sister in law. Has he been like this the

596
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: whole time? In law says no, He's only been acting

597
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: like this since he's had a seizure and hit his head.

598
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: But I'm tired of it already. I want him to leave.

599
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: He's stressing me out. I turned back to my brother.

600
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: You heard her. You have two choices. Either go back

601
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: down to the er and tell them that your mood

602
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: has completely changed since you hit your head during your

603
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: seizure this morning and get yourself checked out and come

604
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: back with an attitude adjustment, or go home and don't

605
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: come back and miss the birth of your child completely.

606
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: My brother just gave me the glare and said I

607
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: could miss it if I go back down there. I

608
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: held up my cellphone. I'm here. If things start moving along,

609
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: I'll call you to come back up here. Sister in

610
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: law then said, I'm only two centimeters. It's gonna be

611
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: a while finally the brother grumbled fine and left. After

612
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: he was gone, sister in law said that she's been

613
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: two centimeters for hours because brother wouldn't let her get

614
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: out of the bed. I rolled my eyes and asked

615
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: her if she wanted to get up. She said yes,

616
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: so I helped her up and I put on some

617
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: hip hop music on my phone. She and I gently

618
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: danced until contractions started getting closer. Then they brought her

619
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: a ball to bounce and rock on for a while,

620
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: and I finally got her onto the bed on her

621
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: hands and knees in an elevated position that allowed gravity

622
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: to help her and I'm a sod her lower back

623
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: every time a contraction hit. I then called brother because

624
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: she was six centimeters and from personal experience, this position

625
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: moves those last three centimeters real quick. I got her

626
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: from two centimeters too ready to push in two hours,

627
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: where my brother had had her stalled at two centimeters

628
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: from midnight the night before when her water broke until

629
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: nine am, when I told him to get out and

630
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: go back to the er. He then got into the

631
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: room to see her, Philly relaxed and me rubbing her back,

632
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: and me telling sister in law that she needed to

633
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: be ready because her contractions had stopped for about five minutes,

634
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: meaning it was her body giving her a very brief

635
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: rest to gather strength. She asked me what I meant

636
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: and then started screaming something wasn't right. I asked what

637
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: she meant, and she said she could feel a ton

638
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: of pressure down there and that she had never felt

639
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: that before with her other two berths. I held her

640
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: hand and told her everything was okay, and that she

641
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: was feeling the baby's head and that she hadn't felt

642
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: it before because she had had epidurals before, but this

643
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: is what a natural birth felt like, and everything would

644
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: be oh okay. My brother started running for the door

645
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: and I said where are you going, and he said

646
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: to get a nurse. I just said no and hit

647
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: the call. But the nurse responded and asked how they

648
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: could help, and I calmly said she needs to push.

649
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: This baby is coming. My brother ran to the door,

650
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: then came back and said the nurses are sprinting down

651
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: the hall, and just then they came into the room.

652
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Distern in law whispered that she was scared. I rubbed

653
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Speaker 1: my hand on her back and told her it was

654
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: okay to be scared, because she's never done this naturally before.

655
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: But they were here, she was in good hands, and

656
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: they were setting up the delivery table. Brother chose that

657
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: moment to say, you almost made me miss this. I

658
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: just glared to him but didn't answer because the doctor

659
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: entered and said, we're on our hands and knees. Why

660
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: and sister Law said because it's more comfortable. I asked

661
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: the doctor, is she not allowed to give her birth

662
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: on her knees? Doctor said it's just easier for me

663
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: if she's on her back. I snapped back, it doesn't

664
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: matter what's easier for you. What matters is what mom wants,

665
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: as long as the baby isn't in danger. Then I

666
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: turned back to sister in law and said, in my

667
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: calm and soothing I'd had with lot the whole time,

668
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: it's been a lost name. Do you want to stay

669
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: how you are, where it's comfortable, or get on your

670
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: back so it's easier for the doctor. Distern Laws said,

671
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't care. I just want this baby out of me.

672
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: I said, okay, it's your choice, and sistern Law squeezed

673
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: my hand and said, can you help me roll over?

674
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: I said yes, and helped her roll onto her back

675
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: and then asked her if he wanted me to switch

676
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: out with my brother since he's back. He hesitated a second,

677
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: looking back and forth between us, and then said yes.

678
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: I said, okay, I told my brother to switch places

679
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: with me, And while I stepped away, he said, to

680
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: go ahead and start calling the family member. By the way,

681
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: I want you to start calling your family members. Tell

682
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Speaker 1: him about our episodes with stories just like this. Just

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Speaker 1: tune into Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to

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Speaker 1: podcast anywhere. Just search Okay, story time. So before we

685
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: finish the story, I'm at a loss for words here. Yeah,

686
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm brain fogged. What what do we do?

687
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: I think clearly the number one thing is they've kind

688
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: of reached the point where everything's fine.

689
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: The doctor has taken over everything.

690
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: If your brother like has a medical emergency and starts

691
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: acting differently, like, definitely continue to get like tell him

692
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: he needs to go get taken care of.

693
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: Like. That's that's crazy to me. But let's go and

694
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: finish the story. Hopefully it gets better. We're gonna find

695
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: Apparently my brother had called my parents from the ar

696
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: because they both said it was wrong of me to

697
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: make him leave the delivery room and go back to

698
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: the er, because what if he hadn't made it back

699
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: in time and had missed the birth? Hey, whoa whoa pause?

700
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: Because what if he just dropped dead from a brain bleed?

701
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Or what if he made

702
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: it even worse in the delivery room? Right? Also that

703
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: it's like he what? But I still think I was

704
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: in the right. I was advocating for my sister in

705
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: law for the mom I personally have been through two

706
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: traumatic births. Neither was the hospital's fault. The pregnancies themselves

707
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: were difficult, and as stated above, I clearly have health problems,

708
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: but I didn't have anyone to advocate for me. My

709
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: husband is non confrontational, and I was scared myself, so

710
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: I know all too well how helpless it can feel

711
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: to not have your voice heard while in labor. So

712
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: am I wrong? No? You were doing the right thing,

713
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: and you're doing the best thing. I guarantee you. Once

714
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: everything is dead and done, everyone's gonna be like you,

715
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: you're the MVP. We'll bring it to you, sister in

716
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: law and be like, mom, you didn't help me, brother

717
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: or husband you didn't help me. Sister in law help

718
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: me akaop oh, he helped me. She was the reason

719
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: why I'm like, okay, yeah, And that's really the only

720
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: opinion that matters. And that is the end of that story.

721
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get

722
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: back to the stories. But here's a quick three minute

723
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: break from asp form response.

724
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: My father in law misbehaved at his granddaughter's game, so

725
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: we called him out.

726
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 1: You're out of there, strike Threeay, hit the showers. You doing,

727
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: got it?

728
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: This is a long one and the fallout is ongoing

729
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: the new lear Winter.

730
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: Maybe in the forecast.

731
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: I have to share and I have to vent my

732
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: forty six male setagenarian fathering law. Love's going to our

733
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: kids athletic events, football, soccer, baseball, softball, everything.

734
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: The kids are great athletes and the games are a

735
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: lot of fun.

736
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: And by the way, this comes from user dookie Shoe

737
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: on the r slash okay story dime subreddit. So, father

738
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: in law, it's the stereotypical boomer profile. He's white, Catholic,

739
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: and Republicans are good and Democrats are bad.

740
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

741
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: Fox News talking points are gospel and nothing that runs

742
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: contrary to his beliefs has any merit, no matter how

743
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: practical or logical. We live a few blocks from he

744
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: and mother in law. We see them regularly, and my

745
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: mother in law is my wife's who's forty best girlfriend.

746
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: Mother in law comes over to the house several times

747
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: a week. Rare is a day. These two women don't

748
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: speak at least once. They have a great relationship. I

749
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: get frustrated with father in law even as a guy

750
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: that doesn't get upset about politics.

751
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: But I love and support.

752
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: Wife, and it's important to her that we have a

753
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: good relationship with her mom and dad. Wife and I

754
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: say to each other, man he can be a dingling sometimes,

755
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: but we want him in our lives and in our

756
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: children's lives. We have our own flaws and understand that

757
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: family can be frustrating and that door swings both ways.

758
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: Love that look at that.

759
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: That was pretty intelligent. I was thinking, like, ooh, are

760
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: we just he Is this going to be bashing? Is

761
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: this just going to be a bash session? But that

762
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: seemed pretty pretty thoughtful. Yeah, of like, yeah, we have

763
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: we also are not perfect.

764
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: No one's perfect.

765
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: More people should have that opinion of themselves.

766
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: In the past, we have had issues with father in

767
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: law being overbearing at athletic events. He believes he's being supportive,

768
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: but he's tone deaf as to how he sounds. He's

769
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: very critical when offering quote unquote helpful coaching tips at games.

770
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: This past fall, in the middle of the season, our

771
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: daughter nine asked if we could tell father in law

772
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: to not come to soccer games because his coaching from

773
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: the sidelines is very loud and grading was making her uncomfortable.

774
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: She didn't want to hurt his feelings and wanted us

775
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: to send the message when my wife mentioned it to

776
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: her mom, who then passed it along to father in law,

777
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: and his response through mother in law was that our

778
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: daughter quote would never ask him not to come to game.

779
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: Well, she did.

780
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: He seemed to accept that he needs to be more

781
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: aware of how he comes across to the other players

782
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: and parents.

783
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: He sulked for.

784
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: A few weeks, but then got over it and was

785
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: granted permission to come to games again after a brief

786
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: talk about being less of a spectacle. No apologies, no

787
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: promises to reform, just a hurrumph and a sure so

788
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: here it comes. Basketball season gets going and my daughter's

789
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: team plays well and makes it to the playoffs. We

790
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: are all in the gym for a playoff game a

791
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: few weeks ago, and not even a full quarter into

792
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: the game, father in law is quote unquote educating a

793
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: mother from the opposing team on the rules of the game.

794
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: It's abrasive, not informative.

795
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: It's I'm right, you're wrong, Yeah, I am Hey, but

796
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: I've never heard of travel in your life though. You

797
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: know you can't take more.

798
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 2: Than tweastays a gather step step step, You're done.

799
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: You do realize this is also just like not a

800
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: professional game. He realized, this is youth athletics. There's always

801
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: there's always that one guy, and this is that one guy.

802
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: The stakes are literally almost as low as possible. Everyone

803
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: gets the troph I mean, you know, the nine year

804
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: old league playoffs pretty serious.

805
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: This is going to be his megro break to the NBA.

806
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: So he knows that he's being argumentative, and he's happy

807
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: to prove to anyone in earshot about how right he is.

808
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: Things get to the point where the mother is moving

809
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: seats to put some distance between her and father in law.

810
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: I'd have my wife to take her attention away from

811
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: our daughter playing to let her know that there's a situation.

812
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: She's sitting on the other side of our group, and

813
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: the noise in the gym is masking the increasing volume

814
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: of the interaction.

815
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: Why did I bring it to my wife's.

816
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: Attention instead of addressing it myself Because I have had

817
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: interactions with father in law about this and other subjects,

818
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: and my first inclination would be to tell him to

819
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: stfu at a volume in tone that would startle adults,

820
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: as that would not be the best approach to diffuse

821
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: the situation. My thought was that his grown adult daughter

822
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: may have more success. We're looking to put water on

823
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: the brush fire, not napalm. Oh, that's topical. She walks

824
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: where he is and politely he asks him to let

825
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: it go, and then comes back to sit. A few

826
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: moments later, not even a full minute, father in law's

827
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: back to educating quote unquote the other mother.

828
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's a man splitting Get just shut up, dude.

829
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: Honestly, the nine year olds are playing watch your granddaughter.

830
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guarantee you the granddaughter's like, why is grandpa?

831
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's yeah, why you're impacting her? Play granddad? Anyway?

832
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: So wife gets up and asks him again more sternly,

833
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: to knock it off, and then returns to her seat.

834
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: Parents from both teams are looking over to see what

835
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: the commotion is, and it's clear to everyone what's happening.

836
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: Less than a minute later, he's back at it. Wife

837
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: goes over again and tells him to stop talking. Father

838
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: in law says, now I will not.

839
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: Now you're the entertainment for everyone. Yeah, congratulations, you're both fools.

840
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: I think now is the time you go. Yeah, I

841
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: get madie. Yeah, you're really this is going to be

842
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: I hope you realize it's actually gonna be a traumatic

843
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: experience or anyone who's related to not just the father

844
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: in law or the granddad, but also the mom whoever's

845
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: mom that is, you're just making a scene and who

846
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: they're just you're just embarrassing your children and your family know. Yeah.

847
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: So for some reason, this rocked me for two reasons.

848
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: One I had never heard him speak to his daughter

849
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 2: like that, and two, I was floored by the lack

850
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: of respect for his daughter and mother to five of

851
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: his grandchildren. Maybe I had been blind to it before,

852
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: but it was so clear that he would walk over

853
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: her if his ego was threatened.

854
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: I was equally enraged and sad. I had had enough.

855
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: I lean over, make eye contact with him, and loud

856
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: enough to be heard over the basketball game. I say,

857
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: shut your mouth. I'm surprised the F word didn't make

858
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 2: it in there. He stops talking, doesn't say a word

859
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: for the rest of the game, and when the game

860
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: is over, he leaves without a goodbye or congratulations to

861
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: my daughter for the win. Wife and I know there's

862
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: going to be blowback and that I'm going to be

863
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: the bad guy in father in law's narrative. I'm okay

864
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: with that. I can be the a hole in this

865
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: fictional story. My ego will survive. Wife and I know

866
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: what happened, and I want father in law to know

867
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: that I'll stay up to anyone that disrespects his daughter,

868
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: even him what. I'm not okay with his father in

869
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: law's treatment of his daughter. I suggest to wife that

870
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: if father in law is ever to come to another game,

871
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: three things need to happen. Number One, father in law

872
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: apologizes to her. Number two, father in law will behave

873
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: at all functions, and number three, father in law agrees

874
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: that if anyone ever asks him to stop he will

875
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: do so immediately strangers, coaches, or referees. The next day,

876
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: my wife gets a call from mother in law to

877
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: announce father in law's decision on what our quote unquote

878
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: punishment will be. He will not come to our house

879
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: if I'm there, no events where I am present, and

880
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: he will not be attending Easter Sunday brunch with us.

881
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: Boo hoo, you got put in your place, old man. Yeah.

882
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: It honestly, how many times we had to teach you

883
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: this lesson?

884
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: Old man? Just like, come on, and now his ego

885
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: is so bruised. He's like, no, I'm the bigger man.

886
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. That's their punishment.

887
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. The pathetic thing is he's not even considering his

888
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: own granddaughter or any of his grandchildren in any of this.

889
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: He's a very self centered guy. Yeah, and he's just like,

890
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: this is so stupid.

891
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: Why are you making me not talk because I'm right

892
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: about the travel rule.

893
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: It's like, it's not about that granddad matter.

894
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: It's cause you're being a freaking issue at the nine

895
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: year old's basketball playoff game.

896
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: You don't need to be an issue there. Ye, yeah,

897
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: I guarantee you guys even said congratulations to the grand dog.

898
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: Did not exactly, he just walked out crazy. So my

899
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: thought to these punishments where Wow, you're really going to

900
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: back yourself into a corner here, aren't you. Okay, let's

901
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: see how you play poker with no chips. Wife tells

902
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: father in law through mother in law because apparently we're

903
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: children inn have to play telephone, that he will not

904
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: be allowed to attend softball or baseball games if he

905
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: maintains his position. We haven't had any direct interaction with

906
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: him in a few weeks, but wife and mother in

907
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: law talk daily. Mother in law is saying that father

908
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: in law is her husband and she has to support him.

909
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: Wife explains that one can support their spouse without supporting

910
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: every thought, feeling, or action they have. Mother in law

911
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: is in a bad spot because father in law is

912
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: essentially pushing her to take his side for acting like

913
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: a butthole. Otherwise she is not a supportive spouse. Very

914
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: childlike behavior from a senior citizen. Over the past weekend,

915
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: I was traveling and get a call from my wife.

916
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: The cold war has gone hot. Mother in law called

917
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: to ask what time our granddaughter's softball games will be

918
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: This weekend. Wife tells her the times and reminds her

919
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: that she is welcome, but father.

920
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: In law is not. Mother in law says, that's silly,

921
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: it's been long enough.

922
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: Wife says, these are literally the first games the season.

923
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: He has not missed any athletic events. There have been

924
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: no consequences for him yet. No, he is not invited,

925
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: and this is where things get dark.

926
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: Oh.

927
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: Mother in law ups the ante and asks if wife

928
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: is planning to be at the games. Wife says that

929
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: she will be. A Mother in law says, then I

930
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: don't want to go. Your father is wrong for not

931
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: respecting you, but you need to respect him. I don't

932
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: want to be around you if you can't respect your father.

933
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: So now this is just like an extra stupid What

934
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: came first? The chicken or the egg?

935
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: And guess what, they're one entity. It's just like whatever

936
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: he says or whatever she says, I follow or I'll

937
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: do bad, is all bad. He may be out of line,

938
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: but he's correct, like respect your father. Come on, man.

939
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: So my heart hurt when I heard this. Wife loves

940
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: her mother and they are close friends. Father in law

941
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: is making mother in law stand behind his misbehavior and

942
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: causing a rift between mother in law and wife. And

943
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: by the way, you can get your mother in law

944
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: and your wife and whoever else and you daught her,

945
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: your granddaughter too young, you're in laws, your.

946
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: Nephews, your nieces.

947
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: You can all listen to full episodes with stories like this.

948
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: Just go to Spotify or Apple Podcasts or wherever you

949
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: get your podcasts and search.

950
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 3: Okay, story time.

951
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: There you go very easy.

952
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: So I think we've kind of hit this a little bit.

953
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: But it's like, what is the path forward here? Like

954
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: do we try to reconcile with the mother in law

955
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: at least or do we just play, like play the

956
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: long name.

957
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: And I think we're going to play the long game

958
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: of like, all right, you're gonna miss a couple of games,

959
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: and there's got to be a punishment. A punishment must

960
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: be served of how he acted. And you think you

961
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: can get off scott free. There you didn't even get punished.

962
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: There was no time, right, you missed every you didn't

963
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: miss any. So I think there needs to be a

964
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: little bit of a punishment. If that's good the consequence fine,

965
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: but you know, get off your high horse.

966
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe something written out maybe if you

967
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: want to give it to the mother in law because

968
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 2: it's like sometimes in conversation it's like things can get

969
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: really like heated and people can get like their feelings

970
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: hurt and stuff.

971
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: Contract comes into it then sca.

972
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: No, not not a contract, but more just like a

973
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: letter just being like, hey, so I feel really bad

974
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: that now now you're excluding yourself just because you feel

975
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: like you need to back up my dad who was

976
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: completely in the wrong yelling at strangers at a nine

977
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: year old's basketball game, Like, and the only reason he's

978
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: upset is because he got told he got put in

979
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: his place.

980
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he could, he could like I don't have

981
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: a place. I'm above everything, right, So right, you're wrong.

982
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: You can, you can, you know, you can feel however

983
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: you want to feel about me and dad not getting along,

984
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: But for God's sake, like this, don't have our relationship

985
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: get messed up because of this.

986
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: So let's see how this goes. Wife says that she's.

987
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: Hurt by mother in law, but if she wants to

988
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: hurt feelings, then wife will play along. Oh if that

989
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: doesn't sound good, Wife says, there will be no contact

990
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: with our families. Mother in law says, you're not going

991
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 2: to keep the grand children from us, are you? Wife

992
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: says yes, and that's where things stand as of today.

993
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: I am not sure how this will play out, but

994
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: I believe father in law is about to learn how

995
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: truly feckless he is.

996
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: When that's the end of the story, I'm ah.

997
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: I think we've I think we figured out the best one,

998
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: which is that you got to have the family's powow

999
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: family sit down and everyone sits down.

1000
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: I think there is I think there does need to

1001
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: be a time of just like separation, have some low contact,

1002
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: give it maybe half the season, just because like let

1003
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: things simmer a little bit, let things settle down, and

1004
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: then go into it. Or like hey, like your granddaughter

1005
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: wants you to come to the games, or your grandchildren

1006
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: want to see you. But like there is like we

1007
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: need to we need to hash things out. If and

1008
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: things gon to be hashed out, then you're not We're

1009
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: not coming to these games.

1010
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree on the wait. I

1011
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: think I think you need to get in front of this.

1012
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: I think I think the longer you wait, the messier

1013
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: this gets.

1014
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: I would say give it a couple games at least

1015
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: or something like that, because like this is this is

1016
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: like Barry fresh off the stove. Especially with mother in

1017
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: law getting into this, you're like, Okay, this is very

1018
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: very fresh. Give it some time, just a little bit

1019
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: of time, just to let it like cool down just

1020
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1021
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose, I suppose, but definitely don't linger. Don't

1022
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: make it like a six months go by and then

1023
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: it's like, all right, let's fix this. It's like, you

1024
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: need to fix this in like a couple weeks. Yeah,

1025
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: like a month. Guess what games happened every week? Yeah,

1026
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: games happened every week.

1027
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: So but that is the end of that story. My

1028
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: mother in law tried stealing my wedding, baby and life,

1029
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: so we cut her off. Oh my guys, it's the

1030
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: trifecta of thievery. You added chemical X to that. So

1031
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: before twenty eighteen, my father in law met this weird

1032
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: girl who was one of those wat jobs who thought

1033
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: that she owned the universe and shouldn't have to apologize

1034
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: for her behavior. When first meeting her, she would do

1035
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: this strange thing, claiming she was socially inept and couldn't

1036
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: handle things and couldn't talk to strangers. She even went

1037
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: as far in the following years as to throw herself

1038
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: in harm's way to avoid talking to people, and would

1039
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: claim that they were in the wrong for being there

1040
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: unannounced or uninvited. Both of these were lies every time.

1041
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user Minnie Rose eleven

1042
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: thirty seven on the r slash Okay storytime subbured. So

1043
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: despite so despite not caring for her strange antics, my

1044
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: husband John not his real name, would often let that

1045
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: abnormal behaviors go and tell his father that since he

1046
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: seemed genuinely happy for the first time since his mother

1047
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: passed away, he was cool with whatever decision he decided

1048
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: not to mention that father in law was a grown

1049
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: man who didn't need his son's permission and was only

1050
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: looking for his input. Father in law is very caring

1051
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: and Mormon, so he is very religious. We didn't find

1052
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: out until much later that she forced her way into

1053
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: his life to marry into the family because she was crazy.

1054
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: Way she was COO cool, I'm socially inept. Let me

1055
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: just jump in from this car, so I just don't

1056
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: talk to you. I would love to have more of

1057
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: an explanation as to what that was. Yeah, come around

1058
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: to twenty eighteen, my husband and I are getting married.

1059
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: Aside from a few things that irked us, the hole

1060
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: she was digging for herself cap row and constantly ridiculing

1061
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: us for so something she disagreed with. The Monster would

1062
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: on more than one occasion trying to erase my mother

1063
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: in law by telling my father in law she would

1064
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: destroy or get rid of all of his electronics, forcing

1065
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: my father in law to clean after a dog he

1066
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: never wanted nor had the time to take care of

1067
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: a working twelve plus hour shift at the same time

1068
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: she remained jobless. The list was growing then the enormous

1069
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: pile of crap was how manipultive she had gotten. Father

1070
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: in law was constantly asking the monster if he could

1071
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: visit his mother. You heard me right. He was twenty

1072
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: years her senior at least, and she had a problem

1073
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: with him seeing his sister and mother literally cross the street,

1074
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: because they will convince you to divorce me. The straw

1075
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: that broke the Campbell's back was my eldest daughter. During

1076
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: the wedding, the Monster faked illnesses and light to everyone,

1077
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: attending that she was paying for and doing everything for

1078
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: the wedding and that she should have the most pity

1079
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: because of everything she was going through FYI. My mother

1080
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: was the one who shelled out nearly thirty K for

1081
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: our wedding, and that was comparatively small. We tried hard

1082
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: to work with the monster on the one event she

1083
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: offered to host him, make it relatively cheap on her

1084
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: and father in law because she was unable to make

1085
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: a lot of money. We learn that because of her

1086
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: constantly getting in debt with loan sharks for scams she

1087
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: used to pull. We aren't money hungry, and I was

1088
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: happier just enjoying a nice barbecue with the family rather

1089
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: than going to a restaurant. During this time, she continually

1090
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: disregarded what we wanted for our wedding. She practically tried

1091
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: to force us to have a wedding in Vegas and

1092
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: get hitched, something I told her in my family I

1093
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: was not comfortable with because of personal issues I was

1094
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: dealing with at the time. Then she had the gall

1095
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: to try and guilt trip us into spending our baby

1096
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: making honeymoon in Florida with her family. I'm sorry, our

1097
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: baby making honeymoon? What is this? What is this story?

1098
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: Well, they're trying to make a baby on their honeymoon.

1099
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: Kean isn't it obvious? Okay, I'm going to do that

1100
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: one more time. Then she had the gall to try

1101
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: and guilt trip us into spending our baby making honeymoon

1102
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: in Florida with her family, ew something that we were

1103
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: extremely uncomfortable with, considering we had never met them before

1104
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: and from what she had said to us prior, they

1105
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't like us because of our political views. Anyway, Hey,

1106
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: you want to spend your honeymoon and you know, have

1107
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: a debate. Yeah. I had to tell her no, not

1108
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: exaggerating seventeen times, that we already paid for a spot

1109
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: for our honeymoon where we can enjoy ourselves alone. She

1110
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: offered her medicinal green stuff to miners at the party

1111
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: roll down a Hill of Grass and the wedding dress

1112
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: my father in a lot paid for, and then crawled

1113
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: around on the ground during the reception to throw cake

1114
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: at a child. Are you are? Is that a baby?

1115
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: Are you? Is this a baby? As a teenager?

1116
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: So this person gives me vibes of the like stereotypical

1117
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 2: insufferable female lead of a poorly written movie.

1118
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? Like the like

1119
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: the really annoying, like why are you with her, and

1120
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: she's like, I don't know.

1121
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: Like just like the woman who's like, yeah, I'm gonna

1122
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 2: run in the rain because I live my life to

1123
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: the first every day and like blah blah, and it's like,

1124
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: just I don't know, you're not acting human. I mean

1125
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: the cake, the throwing the cake at the kids thing,

1126
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: that could be really funny, but like, I don't think

1127
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: based on how this is being written, that that was

1128
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: done in a very.

1129
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Cool or fi It wasn't in acute way. She's like,

1130
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: this is cute, right, You're like your dress is covered

1131
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: in grass stains. Yeah, it was probably more like a

1132
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: is she like on something like she it seems like it.

1133
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: We still, for some ungodly reason, tried to reason with

1134
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: Monster in law for the sake of my father in law,

1135
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: but John had enough of her. Come time after the honeymoon,

1136
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: we found out that I am pregnant. For congratulations, you

1137
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: did what you needed to do, it worked, you made

1138
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: the baby. We tell everyone. Everyone is happy, and then

1139
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: more dramatics occur. Monster kept trying to push her views

1140
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: on other people, saying that we were wrong to have

1141
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: a gender reveal party and call our baby anything because

1142
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: the baby hasn't decided what gender it wants to be yet. Dude,

1143
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: that's not your call. It's not your baby, not your baby,

1144
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: not your call. Who are you? I'd be like, go

1145
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: roll in the grass. Yeah. We decided to name our

1146
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: daughter after my mother in law because it was my

1147
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: husband's wish, and I was more than happy to comply

1148
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: because my mother in law to this day is a

1149
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: saint and we misserved terribly. Rest in peace, Mama. So

1150
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: we decided to have a baby shower that aligned perfectly

1151
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: with mother in law's birthday. It was our way of

1152
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: celebrating old life with new life. I love that. I

1153
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: wanted there to be boys and girls allowed to showcase

1154
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 1: how much her family loved her. However, monster in law

1155
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: and father in law planned to be out of town,

1156
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: never wound up going and asked if we could do

1157
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: a small get together instead. I agreed to keep the peace,

1158
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: but she insists I agreed to keep the peace, but

1159
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: she instead went behind my back, planned out an entirely

1160
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: second baby shower, did not invite a single person from

1161
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: my side of the family, and refused to have any

1162
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: boys there. She even went as far as to complain

1163
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: at me because my mother refused to come, and there

1164
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: were a few boys that invited that she was uncomfortable

1165
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: with coming. Things got worse when closer to delivery. She

1166
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: was offended that I did not want her in the

1167
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: delivery room because I was pre eclampsia. Sorry if I

1168
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: didn't get that, anything is right, but let us know

1169
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: in the comments what reeclampsia at clempsia? And she was

1170
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: used to making my blood boil in spike high with

1171
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: her antis. I politely told her the only ones allowed

1172
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: in the room were my husband and mother, and she

1173
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: claimed she would personate a doctor and sneak into my

1174
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: mind room. Thankfully that was shut down quick, as if

1175
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't already dealing with a ton. Next, she caused

1176
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: drama in the waiting room for the entire time I

1177
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: was in labor, claiming why did we even call me

1178
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: if it was going to take so long? I had

1179
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: better things I could be doing than After the fact,

1180
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: she made a disgusting comment that made John angry. Uh,

1181
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how it happened, but some of my

1182
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: DNA got into the baby somehow, So I mean, like, I.

1183
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: Don't think that she's meaning that literally.

1184
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: No, but like, you just don't say things like that.

1185
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: I mean, that's unhinged.

1186
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: You do know what you say? Congratulations? Oh my god,

1187
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: she's gorgeous. Yeah, you don't go oh my god? Is

1188
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: that my baby kind of looks like me? Is that me?

1189
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: She was not blood related to any of us, and

1190
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: it upset my husband that, like many other things, she

1191
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: kept making everything about her and not about our baby.

1192
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: Needless to say, after all the heck monster had put

1193
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: us through, her constantly lying about her medical history made

1194
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: us weary of her actions. Their house was always covered

1195
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: in dog poop and piss because she refused to clean it,

1196
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: vomit at the smell of it, and she said she

1197
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: was prone to fainting spells and could pass away any

1198
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: day without warning.

1199
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: What is that all because she doesn't want to pick

1200
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: up the after the dog?

1201
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: It's like, that's crazy, h that's just she's No, No,

1202
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: that's crazy.

1203
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 2: I'll vomit, hey, you know what'll definitely make the smell

1204
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: of the feces in ppe go away cleaning it.

1205
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: No, John and I were not okay with this woman

1206
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: ever being left alone at home with our baby. So finally,

1207
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: after one too many incidents, we tell her off and

1208
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: in form Monster and father in law of the ground

1209
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: rules we have set. She flips out and calls us

1210
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: the a holes for keeping her grand baby away from her,

1211
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: even though she was the one who cut contact. My

1212
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: exact words to her were, if you still want to

1213
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 1: make contact with your grand baby, we don't mind meeting

1214
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: in an open public space of your choosing where she

1215
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: won't be affected by whatever is giving her hives in

1216
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: your house. And her reply was no, I can't bond

1217
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: with something being dangled above my head like a carrot

1218
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: on a stick. John saw red he wanted to cut

1219
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: Monster and father in law out of our lives for good.

1220
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: I managed to calm him down enough to try and

1221
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: keep other in law in the loop, considering she was

1222
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: very clearly manipulating him to this point. There is so

1223
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: much to it, but basically, after many threats to our lives,

1224
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: where she said, you have no idea what I am

1225
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: capable of. I will do whatever it takes to get

1226
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: my way. No, doy, I've seen that.

1227
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, casually committing another felony there.

1228
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: I'll just do you want to say that into the

1229
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: recorder one more time?

1230
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, please say that loud enough for the FBI agent

1231
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: in my phone to hear you please, thank you, and

1232
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: at one point threatened to hurt my husband if he

1233
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: didn't comply with her views.

1234
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: We blocked her on all forms of media. Her response

1235
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: was to use her secondary account to message him on

1236
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: say blocking me, oh so mature, and we blocked her again.

1237
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: We even threatened legal action because she constantly texted us

1238
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: through father in law's phone. It is easy to know

1239
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: who was talking based on vocabulary. And by the way,

1240
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: you can listen to full episodes with stories just like this.

1241
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast

1242
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: app and just search. Okay, story time, we have a

1243
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: little bit left here, But what do you I mean,

1244
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: what do we do here? It seems like Opie and

1245
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: John and little baby is just like we're trying to

1246
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: make this as reasonable as possible, but you are the

1247
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: worst thing we want in our lives.

1248
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 3: So I would say you try to get the dad

1249
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: to leave her.

1250
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: You can only do so much if he You know,

1251
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: this all started because they were like, he seems genuinely

1252
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: happy for the first time since mom passed away, right,

1253
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: But it's like this woman is clearly a nightmare, and

1254
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: I think you definitely need to be documenting any and

1255
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: all accounts of harassment, any threats that she levies at you,

1256
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: Like you need to have all of your ducks in

1257
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: a row so that you can take that to the

1258
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: authorities and have somebody like properly get like, you need

1259
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: a proper restraining order against this woman so you can

1260
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: take legal action against her when she inevitably breaks it.

1261
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this, you're doing all the right things. I

1262
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: agree with what John said earlier Opie's husband, of he's

1263
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: his own self. I don't need to you know, he

1264
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: can do his own things. But at this point, I'm like,

1265
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: why are you with her? Are you really happy? Exactly?

1266
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: Are you really happy? Because we're not happy?

1267
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be like, dad, I have to get a

1268
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 2: restraining order against your wife because she's harassing my family.

1269
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: Oh do you not see any red flags with that?

1270
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: And in the end, it was hilarious when she and

1271
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: father in law tried to press the grandparents' rights on us.

1272
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: All I had to say to that was, let's see

1273
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: what the core thinks about your wife illegally growing marijuana

1274
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: in the basement, leaving disgusting dog pieces all over the

1275
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: house for twelve plus hours until you get home, an

1276
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: aggressive dog that will eat the back of your skull,

1277
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: her constant, abusive and neglectful behavior, and her constant medical

1278
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: problems which include fainting at a moment's notice, and see

1279
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: if she's still capable of suing for grandparents' rights in

1280
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: that home. Newsflash, she doesn't have a case. We are

1281
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: a loving family that has tried everything to include and

1282
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: deal with her childish and obnoxious behavior, but she has

1283
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: shut us out. Now we're done. Since around twenty twenty,

1284
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, we have been rid of her and

1285
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: officially she is gone. So potay and to anyone with

1286
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: a similar problem with these monsters, do not be afraid

1287
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: to say no, record their neglectible behavior, and see professional

1288
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: help against them. You are not wrong for wanting to

1289
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: protect yourself and your family. Love you, guys, and I

1290
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: hope you have a great time reading.

1291
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: Wow, Well she truly is that's like normally a monster

1292
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: in law, I feel like it's more like vicious.

1293
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Speaker 3: And she just seems like inept and annoying.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even want to give her that in law.

1295
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: She was just monster. Yes, she's she's an ah real monster.

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Speaker 1: It's a real monster. That's a real monster. And I

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Speaker 1: love I love how op You's like, I have this

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Speaker 1: all like documented in what I have. Good luck with

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Speaker 1: your case. Yeah, I'm just like, I hope the fact

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Speaker 1: that she's gone great. I hope father in law realize, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you didn't need her to be happy. Brother, Hey,

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Speaker 2: My girlfriend's parents are extremely controlling, so I helped her

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Speaker 2: escape the great escape so quick edit at the top. Here,

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Speaker 2: the GF stands for gender fluid. The pronouns changed daily,

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Speaker 2: so I stick with gender new ones when speaking about

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Speaker 2: them generally. I twenty two female, met my partner, twenty three,

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00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: gender fluid on Facebook dating when I was twenty and

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00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: they were twenty one. I had never been in a

1311
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: relationship and was on dating apps for years at this point.

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00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: We clicked shockingly quickly, and we're messaging each other constantly.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user lesbo Queen on

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Speaker 2: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. So we had so

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Speaker 2: many similarities. Neither of us thought we'd see in another person.

1316
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: We saw each other's character extremely quickly, and it was

1317
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: like looking in a mirror. So we became a couple

1318
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: after two dates. There was no question about it. I

1319
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: saw some odd behavior from their parents very quickly, with

1320
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: how restrictive they were about our initial meeting.

1321
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to pick up my partner.

1322
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: The dad had to come with us, and he even

1323
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: took a picture of us at the restaurant to quote

1324
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: unquote prove to the mom that he stayed with us

1325
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: the entire time, though he just drove around the plaza

1326
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: to give us some privacy. I dismissed it as them

1327
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: wanting to make sure I wasn't a catfish or something,

1328
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: so I didn't think it would continue past our first date.

1329
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: I met the mom on the second date. I went

1330
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: to church with them since my partner was forced to go.

1331
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: We're both atheists, and that's where I saw all the

1332
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: red flags. I joined them on an outing and wasn't

1333
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: even allowed to drive myself there. We barely got the

1334
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: chance to be out of earshot of the family.

1335
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: The mom only told me hello.

1336
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: And it was nice to meet you the entire time,

1337
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: and when my partner tried every opportunity to include her,

1338
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: she has a history of being upset when not being included.

1339
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: She would just complain to them like it was a

1340
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: personal attack. I was infuriated having personal experiences with those

1341
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: types of comments from my own mother, who I temporarily

1342
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: cut off at eighteen, so I mentioned what I saw

1343
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: in our phone call that night to make sure my

1344
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: partner knew they tried their best and it wasn't their fault.

1345
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: Their mother reacted that way. We officially became a couple

1346
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: a few hours later. We made a relationship update the

1347
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: next morning, and naturally, the mom was making comments to

1348
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: my partner about how we're moving too fast. My partner

1349
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: tried everything to tell her about me, but she would

1350
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: either get upset or find something to not approve of,

1351
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: despite it being in line with her morals. We could

1352
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: only see each other on the dad's schedule, so of

1353
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: course it conflicted a lot with mine. I got increasingly

1354
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 2: frustrated that I couldn't see my partner on our time,

1355
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: like we weren't both adults. The fact that I had

1356
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: been so respectful of their stupid rules and never complained,

1357
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: only to get no respect in return, made me start

1358
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: playing it my way again.

1359
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: You are Young twenty twenty one. The parents are going

1360
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: to be like still treating you as a kid, especially

1361
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: if you're living under there.

1362
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you live in the house, it's going to

1363
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: be really hard to not be treated like you're a

1364
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,479
Speaker 2: kid living in the house.

1365
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're not paying rent, if you're not paying bills.

1366
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: It's the unfortunate reality of Western society, and I think

1367
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: maybe most other societies is that is.

1368
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: Our house, not yours. Our house are rules, and you're like, uh,

1369
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: I've been very respectful and I don't care. Move out. Yeah,

1370
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: that's the plan, which sucks. It sucks. It does sucks

1371
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: that scenario. It does.

1372
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: I worked only a few minutes away from their house

1373
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: and got off around midnight, so I got the idea

1374
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 2: of asking my partner to sneak out so we could

1375
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: go to some late night restaurants. My partner hadn't done

1376
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: that before, nor I, but we successfully did this five

1377
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: nights in a row. We had our first kiss the

1378
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: first night that we did this, in the middle of

1379
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: their street. It honestly felt like a movie. On the

1380
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: third night, my partner complained that the dad wouldn't buy

1381
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: more allergy medication and didn't want to use it.

1382
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 1: The mom's so it worked.

1383
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: The Next day, I decided to deliver said medication and

1384
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: some goodies from Walgreens. I asked my partner first, of course,

1385
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: but they assumed that I was getting it delivered to

1386
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: my place for our meetup that night. I thought if

1387
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: the parents were going to get upset, it would be

1388
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: because I had their address. The mom exploded over this,

1389
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: then gave my partner the silent treatment toxic. The dad

1390
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: came in to explain to my partner what was wrong,

1391
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: saying it was weird to get someone medication outside of marriage?

1392
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: What? What? What? These are just allergy meds.

1393
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 3: A member of kids, No allergy meds before marriage?

1394
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: What?

1395
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: No spicy sleep and especially no allegra before marriage?

1396
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: No free sponsors. I don't even know if they're real.

1397
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: Ass someone who has a lot of allergies. That was

1398
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: like the most generous thing you can do is get

1399
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: me allergy because there are pretty pricey So what as

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01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: well as you just said they say it it was

1401
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: too expensive? Maybe that's why it was weird?

1402
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: What and now it makes it seem like my partner

1403
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: was leeching off of me. I was obviously baffled and infuriated.

1404
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: My partner was being punished over something I did. It

1405
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: was twenty five dollars over the counter medicine and an

1406
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: absolute if my partner never asked me for it. It

1407
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: was my idea and who were they to criticize the

1408
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 2: way I spend my money. On night five, the mom

1409
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: put a parental lock on my partner's internet, probably to

1410
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: hinder contact with me, as if phone data doesn't exist.

1411
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 2: My partner had enough and took me up on my

1412
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: offer of staying with me, so they took a bag

1413
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: and their cat and ran away that night at twenty one.

1414
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: That's not running away, that's just leaving.

1415
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: You are an.

1416
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: Adult, now, yeah, you just left a place.

1417
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: I think. I think both both Ope and their partner

1418
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: are very sheltered and they've never again acid freedom or

1419
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: done things on their own. And this is this is

1420
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: like I could do things. I'm an adult.

1421
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: It's it sounds like like intense religious conservatism, especially with like, oh,

1422
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: spending twenty five dollars for your partner outside of marriage

1423
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: is unacceptable and weird, like what.

1424
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: It was, what it was for their benefit and their

1425
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: health and it crazy.

1426
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: My partner left a note making it clear that this

1427
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: was their decision and not mine. The dad called the

1428
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 2: next afternoon, obviously upset and begging my partner to come home.

1429
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: He then showed up at my work, but he obviously

1430
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: was only there to beg for his kid back, not

1431
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 2: to have a proper conversation about why my partner left,

1432
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: So I wasn't interested. Our intention was to shock them

1433
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: into perspective that they needed to respect my partner as

1434
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: an adult and weren't entitled to a relationship with their

1435
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: kid if they treat.

1436
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: Them like crap.

1437
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: This is exactly what I did with my mother, and

1438
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: our relationship has never been stronger. Our terms were that

1439
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: we could all discuss what happened and why together, but

1440
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: my partner would not do it without me because I

1441
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: would make sure things were properly communicated without risk of

1442
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: them intimidating and manipulating my partner. They refused, citing it

1443
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: as a family issue as if I wasn't involved and

1444
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 2: they weren't actively villainizing me. So their other option was

1445
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: going to therapy. Yeah, it's crazy for them to be like,

1446
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: no person who our child is living with, you're not

1447
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: at all involved in this.

1448
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: These are very overpredictive parents that just want their way

1449
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: and want to control their hid. Hey, yea, what do

1450
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: we do win away? Welcome on? Okay.

1451
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: The dad, in his stupidity, assumed that I wouldn't listen

1452
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: in on their phone calls. He actually agreed to speak

1453
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: to my dad, who I live with, and then tried

1454
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: to use my father's conversation to manipulate my partner by

1455
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: twisting his words to make it sound like my father

1456
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: agreed with him that he's right to make my partner

1457
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: come back. He also tried to use the fact that

1458
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: my partner couldn't drive and didn't have a job or

1459
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 2: quote unquote life skills against them, But who was supposed.

1460
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 1: To teach them?

1461
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: I easily saw through his tactics, but my partner was

1462
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: not able to defend themselves against it. If the dad

1463
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: just taught to me, I could answer his concerns. Not

1464
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 2: only did I rent my first apartment at seventeen, but

1465
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: I had done the research and been prepared to help

1466
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: a friend become independent with even more hurdles than my partner.

1467
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: I was literally the best person to handle this entire situation,

1468
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 2: as if all of my life experiences prepared me for

1469
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: this relationship.

1470
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: He kept saying things like blah blah blah blah, and.

1471
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't logical trying to make my partner feel unreasonable.

1472
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: They literally thought my dad and I were human traffickers,

1473
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: and how did my partner to their grandparents? So they

1474
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: disowned my partner.

1475
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: Well that's cash. That's one way to get out of

1476
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, that locking parental guidance. Yeah, oh, you won't

1477
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: come home, m all right. Let me try to get.

1478
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 2: Your friend and their dad arrested for a felony.

1479
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: And also, I'm gonna make your grandparents hate you.

1480
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: Wow, you guys are like the best parental figures out there.

1481
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, really making a strong case for why they need

1482
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: to go back home. The mom demanded two hundred dollars

1483
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: for my partner's phone that wasn't my or my father's money,

1484
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 2: and would only hand over social Security card and the

1485
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: birth certificate needed to get a job if my partner

1486
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: gave her their cat which was in my partner's and

1487
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: bought with their own money until she got the money

1488
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: she wanted, because you clearly love that cat.

1489
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: More than me.

1490
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: The dad eventually convinced her to hand over the documents.

1491
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: My partner agreed to go to the nameless Taco establishment

1492
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: alone with him to get the documents and talk of it.

1493
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: That's when he presented an ultimatum he wrote with the mom.

1494
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: It said that my partner had to move back home

1495
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: or with the grandparents. This was before the outing in

1496
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: I think ten days with the benefits of them helping

1497
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: my partner learn to drive and get a job, freedom

1498
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: to see me whenever, and hitting therapy. This is a

1499
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: Batan's classic bait and switch. This is not gonna happen.

1500
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I you can learn how to drive from

1501
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, Opie's dad. Yeah, don't don't need any of

1502
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: them for that.

1503
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: And if they refused this ultimatum, they would be cut

1504
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: off from the family, from the phone plan, and from

1505
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: health insurance. My partner just said whatever to make the

1506
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 2: conversation end. I read the crap and said bet and

1507
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: then ordered a new phone line. I was literally yelling,

1508
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: call their bluff. What We're just supposed to trust them

1509
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: to keep their word, even if my partner agreed to it.

1510
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: The mom then blasts this family matter on Facebook, saying,

1511
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: my father and I had my partner in a stranghold,

1512
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: continuing this narrative that my partner was incapable of making

1513
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: their own thoughts and decisions. My partner fought with her

1514
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: in the comments and even said, if you think it's forever,

1515
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: you're fooling yourself and you're burning all your bridges as

1516
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: you go, as if this woman who said two things

1517
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: to me knew the longevity of our relationship. They finally

1518
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: arranged for the mom and my partner to see a counselor.

1519
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: It didn't go well the second session, so my partner

1520
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,959
Speaker 2: refused to go back. But in these sessions, the mom

1521
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: said she knew I was a bad person during the

1522
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: medication debacle because my partner shrugged at one of her questions,

1523
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 2: which was giving her an attitude which was clearly picked

1524
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: up from an outside source. Obviously, I don't like that.

1525
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: How do you possibly spin? Oh, my child's partner brought

1526
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 2: them allergy medication without even being asked.

1527
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: That's thoughtful for you, forg had to say, because they did,

1528
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: because the dad didn't get the partner the allergy medication

1529
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: the first place.

1530
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: Literally covering your own mistakes. And then you're like, this

1531
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: person is nasty. I can tell the way you shrugged.

1532
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: She's giving new attitude.

1533
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: She's changed since she's taken these allergy pills. Yeah, which,

1534
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: by the way, sorry, since they've taken these allergy pills.

1535
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: Definitely sounds like the mom doesn't have a shred of attitude, right.

1536
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure her attitude needs zero adjustments. I hate people

1537
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: like this. They just kept on going. They said they

1538
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: listed the house for sale so they could move out

1539
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: of state because the situation was just too much. They

1540
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: were literally forcing my partner to choose between them and me.

1541
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 2: I never wanted that. I suspected it was a lie,

1542
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: but my stepmother confirmed the house was never listed for sale,

1543
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 2: which is even more rich because my partner told her

1544
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: they wanted a new therapist because this second therapy session

1545
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 2: made them think of self harm, and she completely ignored

1546
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: that and then said she needed to talk later so

1547
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 2: she wasn't.

1548
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: Too distressed before the real litter comes. Wow.

1549
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, I just want to let you

1550
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 2: know you can listen to full episodes with stories like these.

1551
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: All you gotta do is go to Spotify or Apple

1552
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts from and search

1553
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: Okay story Time, and there you will find a plethora

1554
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: of episodes to peruse.

1555
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: In so many so before you finish this story.

1556
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: I mean, like, clearly there should be no issue with

1557
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 2: going no contact.

1558
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: With oh the mom, that's obvious, and.

1559
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: The fact that the dad is also not really having

1560
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 2: a backbone here and seeing the error in their handling

1561
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: of the situation, go.

1562
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: Back to their original ways have control of Opie's partner,

1563
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: and that's that. It's just very clear like they're trying

1564
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: to do anything to manipulate Opie's partner to just get

1565
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: them back, get them back, and just ruin their life.

1566
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, look, in a different context, maybe

1567
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: this is a positive. In a different context it's and

1568
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: I don't think this is the case. But if if

1569
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: they were dating someone who was like the devil, it's like, okay, yeah,

1570
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: maybe do force the issue, try to.

1571
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: Get them to come back home. But clearly the.

1572
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: Person bringing them allergy meds when their own parents forgot

1573
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: to get them is not the devil.

1574
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: No, and again this is you should be doing. If

1575
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: I were a parent, you would be like, Okay, my

1576
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: child is getting taste of freedom. Kind of wanted to

1577
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: like navigate it in the right direction. This is completely

1578
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: the wrong direction in navigating them of how to handle adulthood.

1579
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the dad kept insisting that my partner reached

1580
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: back out to her and reassure her that my partner

1581
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: loves her and this isn't her fault, but it is,

1582
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: so my partner finally blocked them both. Then the dad

1583
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: took their brother's phone and pretended to be him, so

1584
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: my partner also had to block their brother a hall Yeah,

1585
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: collateral damage here now because the parents are so I

1586
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: got no other word but stupid. Yeah, all because the

1587
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 2: parents couldn't understand that they weren't entitled to a relationship

1588
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 2: with their child. There were more shenanigans from the dad

1589
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: through email and physical mail, but he finally agreed to

1590
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: have a discussion with both of us A year later.

1591
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: He finally gave up after I wrote him a six

1592
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: page email laying out everything he needs to take responsibility

1593
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: for and everything he would need to do to mend

1594
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 2: the relationship that my partner had their own version cussing

1595
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: him out. It felt like an argumentative essay about why

1596
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: he's an a hole, including sources.

1597
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: The silence we received was bliss. Oh, by the way,

1598
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 3: we're two years in now and engaged. Congratulations. Yes, Although

1599
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 3: I would low key be wary of the trauma bond.

1600
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 3: The ring was in an allergy meds bottle.

1601
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 2: That's as that is full circle.

1602
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: That's whatever allergy company or allergae bottle you got. Have

1603
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: them sponsor the wedding, true, have them pay for the wedding.

1604
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: Allergy medication sponsor wedding. Yes. Wow, well that's a great

1605
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: ending