WEBVTT - A Pattern of Manufactured Outrage 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.520 Good morning, keeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:18.840 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Recording from the Home Bunker, Folks, 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:24.119 I really struggled with today's show and the decision to 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.120 decide whether or not we were going to spend an 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:35.360 entire episode talking about Donald Trump and doing exactly what 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.800 I have been lambasting the media for, or if we 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.760 were going to mention Donald Trump and then turn your 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.680 attention to actual, other important news that is happening. So 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.280 I've decided to do the latter because I got to 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:53.680 tell you that I am so fucking disgusted with the 0:00:53.720 --> 0:01:00.000 mainstream media. I'm so fucking disgusted with all NBC's, CBS, 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:05.279 fucking MSNBC, CNN. All of them have learned absolutely nothing. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.959 There is no critical analysis that is happening right now. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.520 I hear people saying, oh my god, this is a 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.520 sad day for the nation. Tell me why. Tell me 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.520 why it's a sad day for the nation for a 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:23.199 white heterosis, wealthy, privileged, fucking entitled son of a bitch 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.560 to actually face criminal charges. Tell me why that's a 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:32.000 sad day. I did an entire TikTok yesterday talking about 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:35.520 what actual sad days in America look like. The murder 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.959 of George Floyd was a sad day. The release of 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:43.240 George Zimmerman him being found not guilty after murdering a 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.319 sixteen year old boy named Trey von Martin, that was 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.200 a fucking sad day. The Supreme Court that has been 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:54.160 weaponized by the Republican Party overturning Roe v. Wade, that 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.840 was a sad day in America. All of the criminalization 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:04.880 and target of the trans community that is happening. Those 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:09.760 are sad days in America. New Town, Columbine, Parkland, the 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:16.840 Pol's nightclub shooting, Uvaldi, the Tennessee School, and so many others. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:21.200 Those are sad days in America. A privileged, white, fucking 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:28.919 hate filled blowhard twice in Peach stupid, stupid man being 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:34.079 held to account for crimes that he has committed is 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.440 not a sad day in our country. It is one 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.600 where we should rejoice that the justice system is doing 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.320 exactly what it was supposed to do in the first 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.560 fucking place, which has hold all people to account that 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.600 break the law and remind us as a nation that 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:53.720 we are not yet a Banana republic. When the former 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.560 twice in peace. President of the United States can be 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:01.360 brought in for an arraignment for over thirty counts of 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:09.359 charges against him. That is a righteous day in America. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:13.040 The covering of Donald Trump's playing on the tarmac, the 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:18.280 following of his motorcade, that's not news. That is sensationalistic 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:24.239 bullshit that I for one, decided not to watch my 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.760 What a nicer day you can have when you don't 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.720 spend it plopped down in front of the television to 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.919 listen to people fill airtime. And I say that as 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:40.720 somebody in the media, you know, NBCCBS and other the 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:47.200 mainstream news outlets decided to cut their coverage right and 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:52.440 just turn one hundred percent to Donald Trump. Nobody cut 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:56.600 their coverage. However, earlier in the week, when the state 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.760 of Tennessee saw the largest walkout of students in its history, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:06.480 nobody cut from their regular coverage to show the faces 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.560 of resistance are young children who are fighting for their 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.480 lives because the adults that are in charge refuse to 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:19.440 do so. Nobody was showing what the Tennessee Republicans in 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.760 the state House were doing by voting out three Democrats 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.480 because they decided to side with their constituents to call 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.720 for gun reform and now have lost their jobs, and 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:36.800 those constituents in their districts have lost representation. No one 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:42.360 cut their coverage. Then I am so sick and fucking 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:50.080 tired of the media in this country. So for those 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:56.040 of you who support my podcasts here on Patreon, you 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.080 know I appreciate you so very much because you are 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:06.560 making a choice to resist, a choice to resist the 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:13.039 ratings war, to resist right the herd, and to carve 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:17.560 out and find the voices that you can trust and 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:23.520 you can believe in. Who aren't just following somebody on 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.960 high who was saying, Oh no, this is what we're 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:28.480 going to cover and this is how we're going to 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.320 cover it. That's not what I do on Woke, if 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.680 it's not what I do on The New Abnormal or 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:38.760 on Democracy Ish. It is why I've chosen podcasting as 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.520 opposed to going to chase the ever mighty dollar by 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:47.719 trying to get my face right as an anchor or 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.200 get my own show on TV, because I'd occurred to 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.600 me a long time ago that then they get to 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.720 own you, and they own your voice so that you 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.920 can't call out the bullshit that they do because that's 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:09.039 who's right in your checks. So no, folks, we will 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.640 cover Donald Trump the way that we cover everything else. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.000 But he ain't getting no special fucking coverage on woke 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:19.080 AF that's for goddamn sure. The motherfucker was arraigned. Once 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.760 we know the details of said arraignment and the charges 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.719 that are being brought against him, then we will bring 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.039 on our legal experts to do what it is that 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.280 we always do. But no, I'm not going to give 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:36.599 Donald Trump twenty five thirty minutes of my good goddamn 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:43.200 life to just pontificate on this white supremis piece of trash. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.920 And I hope that you all decided to save your 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.599 emotional well being in health and avoid the TV, and 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.599 if you live in New York, avoid the city and 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:58.760 are staying safe. So coming up next my conversation with 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:04.720 Joaquin Era, who is the director of the campaign for 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:10.960 Our Shared Future Action Fund. And in this conversation, Joaquin 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:15.440 and I discuss school board elections and why they have 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:21.560 become ground zero for the war against fascism. So that 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.960 conversation and what is happening with our school systems is 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:33.840 coming up next, folks. I am very happy to welcome 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:38.040 to Woke a f daily the political director from Campaign 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:46.440 for Our Shared Future Action Fund, Joaquin Gara. Joaquin, you know, 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.320 we are living at a time that I got to 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:54.080 tell you, I wasn't expecting to be here. I wasn't 0:07:54.120 --> 0:08:00.000 expecting to be in a place where curriculums are being raised, 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:05.720 where we're seeing school boards being taken over by radical 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:13.080 right wing authoritarians, where books are being banned. Don't say gay, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.560 they don't say Gay bill that it was introduced and 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.440 passed in Florida by Ronda Santis has now been reintroduced 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:25.040 to go beyond the third grade and go to twelfth grade. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.760 I just want to give you an opportunity as I 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.920 lay out all of the assaults that we are experiencing, 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.559 whether you are a black, Indigenous person of color, whether 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.440 you're a member of the LGBTQ community, whether you you 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:45.120 know like art, because apparently we're firing principles now for 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.800 showing for an art teacher showing a picture of Michael 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:54.000 Angelo's David in a sixth grade class in Tennessee has 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.360 now been fired from a charter school. So talk to 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.880 me about your organization and how you were taking on 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:12.960 this insidious campaign against freedom in education. Absolutely, Daniel, thanks 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.160 so much for having me on so my organization, the 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.880 Campaign for Our Shared Future Action Fund. We are the 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.080 sister organization to our C three, the Campaign for Our 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.640 Shared Future, And really we were born out of the 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:29.600 response that we saw coming up starting in twenty twenty one, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:34.080 really the response to the pandemic as it related to 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:40.360 public schools and the fact that school shut down, students 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:44.640 had to learn from home, attend virtual classes. We obviously, 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.680 school systems across the country we're not set up for that. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.760 And you know, one of the things that we saw 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.720 was Republicans and the conservative movement take advantage of, you know, 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.920 the pandemic and politicize it. H And one of the 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:02.640 things that got politicized was not just the response to 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:08.120 the pandemic masking as you know, the whole vaccination efforts, 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:13.760 but because students were learning from home and because parents 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.760 had lost whatever semblance of control that they had, the 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.440 conservative movement took advantage of that and started to bring 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:26.520 all the culture war wedge issues into the fight. And 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.200 we saw that play out in twenty twenty one in 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.400 the Virginia guberdatorial election where Governor Glen Yngkin rode the 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.600 coattails of cultural race theory, which is where we first 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.160 saw it. We saw a little bit of a play 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.640 out in twenty twenty, you know, in the presidential race, 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:45.280 but then we really saw the actual politicization of it 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.040 in the gibuatorial election that was credited as one of 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.400 the things that helped Glenn young Can win the presidency. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.480 But it really started in twenty in the spring of 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.800 twenty twenty one, when Steve Bannon said on his pot 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.200 on one of his episodes of his podcast that the 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:04.160 path to Republicans returning to power in congresses to school 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.199 board elections. And that's the one side of this story. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.440 This is a political strategy, and this is not a 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.600 strategy that is anything new. We see this strategy play 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:18.400 out in every single issue that is politicized and hysteria 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.920 is manufactured. You know, I'm forty seven years old. I 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.800 feel like I've seen many of them from that I 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:26.800 that I can remember, from the time that I was 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.360 maybe like an early teenager until where I'm at now. 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:38.280 I remember when Tipper Goore was politicizing rock and roll, remember, 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.840 and well, well, so it started with rock and roll, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.480 which really started back in the fifties and the forties, right, 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:49.080 because you had Chuck Berry, right who you know who 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.240 the godfather of rock and roll, and then Elvis Presley 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.520 you know, took it mainstream, right, But you had a 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.560 freak out around that because people were swaying their hips 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.679 and Dan seeing and all of that stuff. So we 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:07.120 see the thread of that, you know, UM consistently you know, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.880 being used. It's like, how do you manufacture outrage? How 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:14.440 do you manufacture history about hysteria around getting people um 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.880 fired up and focused on this manufactured um issue when 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.400 there's real problems still going on here. Right, So the 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.200 flip side of this is that you know, we're in 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.200 a pandemic. You know, should kids be in school without mask? 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.280 That's a legitimate question, you know that that that is 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.400 like that that you know that is like a legitimate question, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.679 especially for parents to to wrestle with. But we ended 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:42.960 up having a fight about whether whether or not that 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.720 that fight became politicized between red and blue, right and left, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.720 and it was not about the issue. And like sa 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.760 Chavis said, the fight is never about grapes or let us. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.640 It's always about people. And that's like fundamentally what is 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.520 going on here? Now? This fight has evolved even since 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.040 twenty twenty one. It's our off of critical race theory 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:06.439 as the umbrella for for for whatever, right, right, yep, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.880 Governor just scientists filed a supposed bill that was named 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.080 the Stop Woke Act right in twenty twenty two in Florida. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.920 That past. One of the other bills that pass in Florida, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.600 as you know, is that don't say gay bill, you know, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.000 and and and while critical race theory has you don't 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.360 hear that as much. Uh, it's now all about like 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.640 what is woke funny enough? Right, which they can't seem 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:34.520 to explain either exactly because they still okay, so we're 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.600 fighting over abstracts, you know, and and how do you 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.040 can't when when when you can't even agree on the 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.439 on what woke is? You know, we're finding about woke 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.120 when at the same time schools are being defunded, at 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:51.920 the same time when um uh students who are LGBTQ 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:56.439 UM identifying are being marginalized and bullied. And that's the 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.200 other side of this of this strategy, right. It's like, 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.400 in order to take power, you have to other people. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:07.480 You have to like dehumanize them. You have to, and 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.280 the way that you do that is by creating this 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:15.440 manufactured outrage and hysteria around issues that you know, nobody 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.840 knew what the heck critical race theory was except for 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.880 the academics who who taught it, who were learned and 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:27.040 steeped in it, and had an intellectual analysis around that, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.120 and certainly reasonable people could have a debate over is 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.480 like what is critical race theory? But when it gets 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.120 politicized and uses a political issue to other to divide 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:41.840 and conquer, that's where we're at today. I mean, what 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:46.120 you have laid out is just this what you've referred 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.560 to as a pattern of manufactured outrage right over the 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.440 fact that the reality is our country's demographics are shifting. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.560 The reality is is that, you know, a lot of 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:01.080 what we've seen implemented in schools is to cater to 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:07.800 a diversified base of students, to a diversified population. We 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.560 have different issues that young people are facing today than 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.400 they were twenty years ago, or thirty years ago, or 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:20.040 forty or fifty years ago. And the reality that because Democrats, 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:25.760 in my humble opinion, did not have a response to 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:31.840 Glenn Junkin's entrance into the quote unquote culture wars, turning 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.400 critical race theory something that was never taught in K 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.880 through twelve, wasn't ever taught in college. It was a 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:45.080 post secondary right field of study. Right, turn that into 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.680 a quote unquote parental choice issue, and Democrats didn't have 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:54.200 a response to that. Now you've seen it morph into 0:15:54.240 --> 0:16:00.400 this christo fascist state that Ronda Santis is leading in 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.320 Florida that we've seen in Texas, Texas being the state 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.600 where you are, which is the largest manufacturer of guess 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:12.000 what textbooks for public schools, that's right, right, that have 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:20.120 basically turned the story of enslaved people into a unpaid internship, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.040 right that you know, we should all just kind of 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:28.320 speed bump over as we're talking about America, So talk 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:33.920 to us about what your organization is tasked with doing. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.120 So absolutely I want to since you since you mentioned 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.800 that I live in Texas and just the structural role 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.560 that Texas plays, and I would also say Florida since 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.960 it is one of the largest states in the country 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.680 as well. We purchase a lot of textbooks. But as 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.040 a Texan, two things that I want to share very quickly, 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.440 and I'm going to get to your question about what 0:16:55.480 --> 0:17:01.280 we do. This really exemplifies what what we're fighting about here. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.520 When you were a seventh grader in Texas, you take 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.359 Texas history, right, as a Mexican American seventh grader in 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:11.200 deep South Texas, we're learning about the Alamo. We're learning 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.680 Texas history, the Formation history, we get to the Alamo, right. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.520 And one of the things that I'm not sure if 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.920 this happens in every school district, in every seventh grade 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.720 Texas history class in Texas, but we watched one of 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.200 the Alamo movies and it was the John Wayne version 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:28.560 of the Alamo. So it was a very glorified version 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:33.119 of the Alamo, of the Battle of the Alamo. You know, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.480 John Wayne, and you know was the hero, David Crockett, 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.760 Daniel Boone, all of the main characters you know about 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.119 the Alamo. I think as a seventh grader, you know, 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.399 after watching that, you know, I had like this moment 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.000 in the middle of it where wait a minute, I'm 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:54.160 supposed to be charing the fact that these Texans are 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:58.200 killing Mexicans and I wait a minute, I'm Mexican America. 0:17:58.240 --> 0:17:59.760 So it was like the formation of just like wait, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.320 what going on here? And and and as a seventh grader, 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.400 I wasn't sure you know what necessarily to do with that? Right? 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.439 And I think that part of this goes to the age, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.160 to the age appropriateness of like, how do you teach slavery? 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:16.520 Slavery happened, it was real, right. Connect that to what 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.800 the fight at the Alamo about the Texas Revolution some people, 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:25.840 you know, the Texas Revolution was fundamentally about two things. 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.320 That the two sides of it. The side that doesn't 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.680 get talked about as much as that it was about slavery. 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.800 The Texans that were moving to the people that were 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.880 moving to Texas while Texas was still under Mexican control. 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.360 It was it was Texas then was part of Mexico, 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.480 you know, forbade slavery. And you had all of these 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.800 people moving to Texas that were coming from the South, 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.760 you know who were who were farmers and establishing you know, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:57.280 their own farms, some established major farms, plantations, cotton growing 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.159 all the crops, right, and what at those plantations and 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.720 what did those forms depend on labor? And where did 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.560 that labor come from? Slaves? So that's like one side 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.119 of it, right, So to take it one step further. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:14.840 Juneteenth another Texas, another thing that happened in Texas. If 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.200 you know the history about Juneteenth, Juneteenth is about the 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:23.119 celebration when African Americans in Texas found out two years 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.439 later that they were free after President Lincoln signed the 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.320 Emancipation Proclamation. Why did it take so long? Why did 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.800 it take two whole years? Why did it take a general, 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:39.000 a US Army general, having to step foot on Galveston 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:43.560 Island on June nineteenth, eighteen sixty eight. If I'm not 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:49.880 mistaken to proclaim that black folks were free, why because 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:55.280 the farmers needed that labor, right, yeah, So it's complicated, 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.719 right like, and I don't mean like it's complicated, like 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:03.320 you know, but like, history is full of nuance. And 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:05.240 at the end of the day, what the Campaign for 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.879 Our Shared Future is set up to do is to 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:12.159 create the space for how do we have, um, how 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.960 do we have a full and accurate teaching of what 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.560 actually happened in this country, like our history as it 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.919 relates to slavery. How do you teach, you know, what 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:22.760 happened in World War Two as it related to like 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.840 the Holocaust in Germany? Right Like, now, these are complicated, 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.400 you know, subjects, and certainly you can distill them down 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:32.120 to a right and wrong, and that certainly is true. 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.440 But there is a part of this that is like 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.520 you have to like you have to pull apart all 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.879 the different threads to get a full and complete picture 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.080 of them and only once and one side wants to 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.399 only tell their version of it. And history history history 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:51.239 does not work that way. Right. Certainly, you have, um, 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.359 you have history being told from the from the side 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:59.160 of who won a war or who has power? Right, 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.120 But then you have other voices you know as part 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.760 of that, you know that don't get told. And that's 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:09.280 fundamentally that is what we are organized to set up 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.280 and do. How do you for school boards, for state 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.920 legislatures to create the space for the full and accurate 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:20.360 telling of history at an age appropriate level. I don't 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:25.639 know how you teach the horrors of the Holocaust or 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.560 slavery to a first grader, right, I don't know that. Right. 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.959 That's why there we have experts, That's why we have academics. 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.520 We have people who study these things and not politicians, 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.639 right exactly. Well, that's the point. And so what we 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.840 have is the reaction and to bring it back to 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.520 you know what I said at the very beginning, Danielle. 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.359 It's like when my father came and took away my 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:51.520 cassette tape collection of rock music. It was because of 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.880 the satanic panic, right, And it's just like you know, 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.600 and it's like I look back on and then you 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:00.639 said earlier, and then there was the are on gangster 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.560 ap that's absolutely right also, and it just keeps coming 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:06.439 over and then it goes from the cultural issues like 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:10.600 music and it morphs into the like the political issues 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:14.879 where people's dignities is stripped away from them, right, the 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:19.720 fact that black folks and white folks can't get married 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.840 in Virginia. Yeah, you know, it took a US Supreme 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.919 Court case for that to happen. So it's like we 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.359 see this play out over and over and over again. 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.560 And essentially what we do at the Campaign for our 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:33.760 Shared Future Action Fund is that we use school board 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:39.560 elections as a strategy to endorse pro equity education candidates, 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.200 especially those who are running against anti equity candidates. And 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:47.199 we you know, we assess races, we send out a 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:51.399 candidate questionnaire, we endorse candidates who meet our standards, and 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:55.840 then essentially we run independent expenditure campaigns to support their candidacies, 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:59.720 to make sure that voters know that school board elections matter. 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.240 You know that it may be the lowest, it may 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.959 be the election at the bottom of the ballot in 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.560 some places, like in an even year election. Last year 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:12.919 we had school board elections in a number of places 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:18.280 like Florida, Michigan, Arizona. But you know, and some people 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.280 just don't vote the whole ballot, you know. I mean, 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.919 people just vote president or governor the executive offices and 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.520 then do you have ballot drop off. So we've we've 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:30.840 worked to educate voters around the issues here, give them 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:32.479 the information that they need so that they can make 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.679 an informed choice and vote for the candidates who are 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.400 for who are not for banning books, who are not 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:41.680 for censoring classroom discussion. Let me ask you this question, 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:48.560 go ahead, how do you engage people, yeah, Joaquin, who 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.320 don't have children right in the school this year, Because 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.399 to me, that is part of the problem is like 0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.680 the people who are doing the voting are either people 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.840 whose children have age out or don't have kids at all, 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.520 so they're like, this doesn't affect me. So how do 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:11.120 you make the case that this actually affects everyone. Yeah, 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.720 so you know, it really comes down to organizing, right, 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.119 So for us, it is all about how are we 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:20.040 working with and through other organizations on the ground that 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:25.199 are organizing around public education UM and supporting complimenting the 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.159 work that they do by providing them resources, whether it 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:32.320 be messaging, pulling and pulling and research that uh to 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:36.439 to contribute to having you know, good conversations and moving 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.959 people off of fighting over the definition of a word 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.680 or an acronym and talking about do you want me 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.639 to do? You know, talking about like what's really a 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.440 stake as it relates to people who don't have children. 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:49.400 I am one of those people. I don't I don't 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.080 have children. But you know why it's important to me, Danielle, 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.480 because of exactly what I told you earlier about Like 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:55.920 I was a seventh grader and I had to take 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:59.159 Texas history right as and and and as I learned 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:02.000 and as I went the public education system K through twelve, 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.160 you learn about juneteenth also, and you're only taught one 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.440 side of it. You're only taught like a very sanitized 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:12.120 version of what something was really about. Right now, it's 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.680 a cumbent upon me it's a cumbent upon parents to 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:19.679 um supplement the supplement, right, you know, asking questions. And 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:21.959 part of like what we're dealing with here is like, 0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.480 you know what conservative what the what the conservative movement 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.640 continues to like perpetuate is like just like this absolutism 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.359 where there's only a right answer only they have like 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.240 the answer, and what is that? That's authoritarianism. And that's 0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:38.479 why public education is incredibly important because we need, you know, 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:43.000 we need to give students, teachers, students, parents the tools 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:47.280 that they need to be able to um become a UM, 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:52.720 you know, to essentially become a well rounded student. Right now, 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.080 it's not just the school's job. It's not just the 0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.160 teacher's job, right parents have a role to playing this also. 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.679 So part of it is it's like that this is 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.480 where the organizing comes into place. And if you're only 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:07.480 talking about the if you're if you're fighting over what 0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:11.560 CRT is, if you're fighting over what LGBTQ is right, 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.359