WEBVTT - I Am Iron Man

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hey there everyone, and welcome to Forward Thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>The podcast that listened to Futuring, says Binary Solo zero

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<v Speaker 1>zero zero zero zero zero one. I'm Jonathan Strickland, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Vocum, and I'm Joe McCormick. And uh, guys, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're familiar with the great documentary Aliens. Oh yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>have we not talked about exoskeletons yet? I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we had day is the day. Yeah, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many examples in science fiction, and I mean I personally

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<v Speaker 1>love lots of them, like the Loader and Aliens. While

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<v Speaker 1>it's entirely just this huge functional thing that's meant to

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<v Speaker 1>allow a person to load heavy material, yeah onto a spacecraft.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's just a simple example, but it's still

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<v Speaker 1>really awesome. It's so great because in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>construction of the narrative, it's one of the best sci

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<v Speaker 1>fi versions of Chekhov's gun Yes in movie history. When

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<v Speaker 1>Ripley uses it early on to you know, show up

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<v Speaker 1>the dudes who think that she can't do anything. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a girl. There should totally be a little a little

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<v Speaker 1>caption that flashes underneath that scene saying this is important. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course later, oh, that's just the power.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't say the line. Don't say the line, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, power, so many exoskeleton. Everybody loves iron Man,

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<v Speaker 1>iron Man. Well, okay, until two thousand eight, a small

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<v Speaker 1>number of people loved iron Man, and now everyone loves

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<v Speaker 1>mostly Robert Downey Jr. Also, I guess iron Man. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Downey Jr. Lives his life as if he were

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<v Speaker 1>Iron Man, or at least Tony Stark. So but we've

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<v Speaker 1>got other examples. Uh see Master Chief's armor, the Spartan arm,

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<v Speaker 1>which is arguably a little bit like a cyborg because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that you could take that guy out

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<v Speaker 1>of that suit and have him live, right. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a combination, right, there's an exo skeleton element, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's also the cyborg element of the or at least

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<v Speaker 1>the genetically modified slash cyborg element, because they do have

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<v Speaker 1>the AI that can go into their brains. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>but it certainly does. That suit certainly gives him or her.

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<v Speaker 1>There are lady Spartans true superhuman abilities. Yeah, there's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's of course, Metroid Classic Samas, Samas Sammus. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you say Samus, who answers is going to yell

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<v Speaker 1>at you and say say Samas instead, I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue that many of these examples are also based

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<v Speaker 1>on some classic sci fi examples, like Starship Troopers, which

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<v Speaker 1>was in fact a book before it was a really

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<v Speaker 1>terrible film. I think you mean, terribly awesome film that's

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<v Speaker 1>not at all what the book I believe had. It

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<v Speaker 1>had exo skeletons that didn't show up in the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, They didn't even show up in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's why I hated that movie. Cavatar had them.

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<v Speaker 1>Giant Mex, I mean, Max are essentially exo skeletons just

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<v Speaker 1>turned up to eleven. Yeah. Okay, so by grouping all

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<v Speaker 1>these things together we can sort of get an understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of what an exo skeleton is. It's a suit that

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<v Speaker 1>you put on over your body. It doesn't replace your body,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's sort of augments your body amplifies what you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to do in some way, which is exactly why

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<v Speaker 1>RoboCop is not an example of an exo skeleton. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we we had a quick discussion before the podcast went

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<v Speaker 1>live because apparently there was a correction that we needed

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<v Speaker 1>to address on something unrelated to this podcast. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>call the discussion quick, but please go ahead. At any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>the discussion was specifically about and ask Someone made the

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<v Speaker 1>assertion that RoboCop in fact is wearing an exo skeleton.

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<v Speaker 1>That's clearly not the case. Someone was under the mistaken

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<v Speaker 1>assumption that RoboCop was wearing an exo skeleton. Uh, not

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<v Speaker 1>correct at all. RoboCop is a human head and I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe part of a torso, but that's irrelevant with

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<v Speaker 1>a robot body cyborg. Yeah yeah, if he's pretty, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty Frankensteiny. Yeah. Yeah, So an exo skeleton would be

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<v Speaker 1>if RoboCop was a regular cop who was a dude

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<v Speaker 1>who would walk in in the morning, put the suit on,

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<v Speaker 1>and then go out and fight crime, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>an exo skeleton. Yes, so let's talk about some real

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<v Speaker 1>world exo skeletons, because here's the thing, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>science fiction, Joe, real world I'm talking about you can

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<v Speaker 1>go out and put some of these on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only you could buy one, you could buy a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of these. Yeah, I mean, if you have grand

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<v Speaker 1>laying around. I got to hear this, all right. So

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<v Speaker 1>there are lots of different types of exo skeletons, which

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of arbitrarily divided up by the tasks they

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<v Speaker 1>were intended to perform, because again, you know, an exo

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<v Speaker 1>skeleton in general is meant to augment your abilities in

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<v Speaker 1>some way, although in some case says that augmentation is

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<v Speaker 1>really more for the purposes of entertainment, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>first category I chose because the mainly because the the

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't imagine a use for these first two exo

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<v Speaker 1>skeletons beyond impressing people by the fact that you're walking

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<v Speaker 1>around in an enormous exo skeleton, I mean, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty high impressive factor. Yeah, it's not practical unless

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<v Speaker 1>you just want to impress people. So if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>l A and well okay, and they have they have

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<v Speaker 1>slight uh, they will slightly improve your your grip strength

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<v Speaker 1>or your really these two maybe maybe they do. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about the Team Skeletronics one, because that one

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<v Speaker 1>was based solely upon human power. There's no you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the suits we're gonna talk about today

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<v Speaker 1>are powered suits. Right, they have an additional power source

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to carry around with you or you're

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<v Speaker 1>tethered somehow, because some of these are in prototype stage

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<v Speaker 1>and aren't you know, standalone devices. Even with pure mechanical levers.

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<v Speaker 1>Um this one that you're about to talk about can

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<v Speaker 1>give you about twice your normal strength from what I've

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<v Speaker 1>read on the internet. Oh wow, So skeleton Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>will be the I think I said skeletronics, but Skeletonics

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<v Speaker 1>rather Team Skeletonics UH is a group that created this

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<v Speaker 1>this uh, purely mechanical exoskeleton, meaning not power, not power.

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<v Speaker 1>It's powered by human So it's human powered. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen one of those like in the old cartoons,

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<v Speaker 1>the boxing glove that's on the various kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>accordion style uh system of levers and so it can

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<v Speaker 1>extend really far out and then come back. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the basic building block of this thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>has all these little interconnecting levers that leverage your movements

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<v Speaker 1>to make them bigger in the form of this exo

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<v Speaker 1>skeleton and in fact makes you a little bit taller. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They stand about eight ft two inches tall, which is

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<v Speaker 1>about two point five meters. Now, Lauren can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>towering over the world at eight ft two and it's delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren is already Oh they were. They were originally designed

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<v Speaker 1>by this team of like high school slash college prep

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<v Speaker 1>students in Okinawa, which is even better, I think because

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<v Speaker 1>it was built by kids. Yeah, and they look hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>like they look like something I said, they looked like

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<v Speaker 1>something from aperture science labs, like Portal Games. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the big kind of bulbous white section looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious clumsy science experiment. Yeah, you're you're kind of walking

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<v Speaker 1>on these stilts. I mean, and they're and they're well

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<v Speaker 1>balanced stilts, but still it's nonetheless, it's still to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of puppetry. My sister is a

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<v Speaker 1>professional puppeteer. So the first time I ever saw one

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<v Speaker 1>of these on a video, I've never seen it in person,

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<v Speaker 1>but when I saw it in motion on video, the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I thought is, Oh, that's a puppet. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a giant puppet. And that's really more or less

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<v Speaker 1>what this one is. It's a giant puppet. Not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not belittling it, because again I love it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and you could this is one of the ones

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<v Speaker 1>you could actually go out and buy today. Yeah, for

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<v Speaker 1>the low price of undred dollars um you can totally

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<v Speaker 1>purchase one, or you could rent one out for parties. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally tell one of these at a party. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta have a party in Tokyo, so I can

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<v Speaker 1>have my very own Exo Skeleton performer come in and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe make like Exo Skeleton balloon animals or something. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the the wich fingers would pop them more entertaining. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be fantastic. So that that's the first one we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about. Another one that's kind of similar,

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, some would say similar to the point of

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<v Speaker 1>they totally stole the design is a Sagawa Electronics Powered

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<v Speaker 1>Jacket m K three. So this one, let's stand for

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<v Speaker 1>Mortal Kombat three. Not to my knowledge, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>terrible if you as soon as you put on the suit,

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<v Speaker 1>you just finishing. Oh the things are about to go

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<v Speaker 1>bad now in this case Sgala Electronics. The name the

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<v Speaker 1>powered Powered Jacket m K three gives a hint already

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<v Speaker 1>that's different from the first one, right, it does actually

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<v Speaker 1>have supplemental power that goes to it because it actually

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<v Speaker 1>has several servos and team to be precise, that would

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<v Speaker 1>control some of the movements. So instead of you moving

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<v Speaker 1>your arm up you know, ten inches so that the

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<v Speaker 1>the the robot, the exo skeleton arm goes up you

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<v Speaker 1>know a larger amount based upon the size of the

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<v Speaker 1>exo skeleton. In this one, you would be using controls

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<v Speaker 1>to make certain things happen, like turn the wrists or

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<v Speaker 1>open or close the hands. Uh. Their marketing approach is whimsical,

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<v Speaker 1>although that whimsy led to led to a great deal

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<v Speaker 1>of marketing success there, there was a lot of controversy

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<v Speaker 1>when they debuted. The company started up about a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half after Skeletonics and UM their suit went

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<v Speaker 1>up for sale a sing gold day after the Skeletonic

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<v Speaker 1>suit did. And it I mean they have basically admitted

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<v Speaker 1>that the mechanics are based on the Skeletonic suit. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the two, you can see the similarities

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<v Speaker 1>between them. They're not like the power jacket looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a smaller form factor, but it's very much the

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<v Speaker 1>same shape. Oh sure. UM, and and they are pretty

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<v Speaker 1>proud of those of those electronics in there. UM they

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<v Speaker 1>say that the motorization allows for much smoother motions. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's something it's been a little bit of a of

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<v Speaker 1>a sticking point that due to this whimsical marketing um

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<v Speaker 1>that that they have enjoyed slightly better success. Yeah, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>watched the demonstration video on the site. It is so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so weird and funny that I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this like, are we mistake? Is this just like

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<v Speaker 1>a prank? It's extremely tongue in cheek. Um. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that the announcer on this thing has this really silly

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<v Speaker 1>scar bakeup. Yeah, he's got all these uh, these fake

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<v Speaker 1>scars all over his face where you just assume that

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<v Speaker 1>this was probably something that he, uh that developed after

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<v Speaker 1>an unsuccessful prototype test perhaps and the persona that he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing is is a little bit aperture science actually, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's very strange. Yeah, they suggest like you

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<v Speaker 1>used the thing for battle that you you know, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got these like dramatic scenes. It's very weird. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's certainly it's certainly more on the entertainment side. I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue then a lot of the other ones we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about today, but yeah, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get those out of the way because while they are entertaining,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly can't see them being used practically to do

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<v Speaker 1>something that otherwise you would have trouble doing. Jonathan, where's

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<v Speaker 1>the power loader? From Aliens? So is that real? Yet?

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue that the power loader at least drew

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<v Speaker 1>some inspiration after a real piece of technology that never

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<v Speaker 1>made it into production. It never made it all the

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<v Speaker 1>prototype stage because it was never it never worked exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the way it was supposed to do. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a prototype powerloader. There was a prototype powerloader by G. E. G.

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<v Speaker 1>E built a prototype powerloader type device in nineteen Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it was developed in the sixties and early seventies. They

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<v Speaker 1>were working on it for multiple years trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>this thing to work called the Hardy Man H A

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<v Speaker 1>R D I M A N. This thing is Have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen the pictures? Did you guys? Look at the pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like it was, you know, the inspiration for

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<v Speaker 1>the powerloader. It looks like a transformer that was originally

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<v Speaker 1>a refrigerator unfolded to have arms and legs and have

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<v Speaker 1>a person inside it. It's not extremely elegant, is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying. So this thing had some pretty incredible goals.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was it was funded by the US military. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got the military behind it looking at something

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<v Speaker 1>that could allow it to move huge amounts of of payload,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in various applications, and it could, uh in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>allow a person to lift up to pounds or six

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<v Speaker 1>that's heavy. Yeah, yeah, something something about twenty five times,

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<v Speaker 1>like like you would only feel a pound for every

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five that you lifted, right, which is pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Had twenty eight or it was supposed to have twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight movable joints, and it itself weighed hundred pounds. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this was no spring chicken. This wasn't something that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lightly jump up the side of a cliff, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So very heavy, very bulky, had large hydraulic arms. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And ultimately it suffered from a lot of different problems

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<v Speaker 1>that made GE eventually shelved the project. So they had

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<v Speaker 1>problems with power management, like how do you actually power

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<v Speaker 1>this thing where it's not tethered to a giant generator?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you make sure that all the joints move properly.

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<v Speaker 1>They eventually built an arm that you could put your

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<v Speaker 1>arm inside and lift around. Uh. Center and fifty pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty impressive. However, according to at least one source,

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<v Speaker 1>the legs gave them problems, and that when they try

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<v Speaker 1>to activate, like try to build legs where it would

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<v Speaker 1>you would be able to walk around in this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because clearly you're gonna be able to wear just the

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<v Speaker 1>one arm if it weighs about some of the pounds. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you need something that I gotta rip your arm off

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<v Speaker 1>at the at the shoulder. Yeah. Because these things were

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<v Speaker 1>mounted on like big pedestals in the testing phases, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't It wasn't like in final form, So trying

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<v Speaker 1>to build the legs and make them work. It said

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<v Speaker 1>that that any attempt to get its legs to work

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<v Speaker 1>resulted in a fit of mechanical st Vitus dance, which

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<v Speaker 1>would mean that you would have no control. You would

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly have this stomping, rampaging robot beast that's you're inside.

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<v Speaker 1>At best, you would be witnessed to a terrible amount

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<v Speaker 1>of destruction as you flailed around. At worst, you would

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<v Speaker 1>be turned into a human bendy toy. Yeah. I had

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<v Speaker 1>the question, is it worst to be inside it or

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<v Speaker 1>outside it? Yes? I don't think anyone WINSUM. But anyway

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<v Speaker 1>that that if you go and look at the designs

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll link to some stuff on our social network

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<v Speaker 1>platform so you can kind of get a look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really an impressive attempt at building a working exoskeleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It just didn't get there all right, Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't quite have the power sources or the circuitry

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<v Speaker 1>that could be small enough to really be lightwright enough

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<v Speaker 1>to really function at that point in time. But but

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<v Speaker 1>the basic idea of it is what basically everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about today is based on

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<v Speaker 1>being that there are it's really too exo skeletons. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's one that you wear and then one that

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<v Speaker 1>um and an outer one that's connected to that inner

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<v Speaker 1>one that translates the motion. Yeah, and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>remember also that it's easy for us to ignore this

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't really necessarily think of it as intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is totally part of artificial intelligence. Absolutely. It's

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<v Speaker 1>teaching computers how we humans move and the range of

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<v Speaker 1>motions that we can do and the range emotions that

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do in order to complete certain tasks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all part of artificial intelligence. It's not just how

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<v Speaker 1>humans think, it's how we are able to do everything. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Your motor skills are part of what your brain does, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We just don't normally think of our motor skills as

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<v Speaker 1>part of intelligence. You know, if we're think, if we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about intelligence, often that we overlook that and and

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<v Speaker 1>the algorithms necessary to receive that input and translated into

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<v Speaker 1>motion without injuring you or your surroundings are pretty pretty complex.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is really complicated stuff, which is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason why it's taking so long to get

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<v Speaker 1>an exoskeleton that you know, kind of matches what science

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<v Speaker 1>fiction has has portrayed. Even in the more rudimentary implementations

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<v Speaker 1>of exo skeletons, it's not a trivial task to both

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<v Speaker 1>teach a machine how to move and also miniaturize all

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<v Speaker 1>the components and get a form factor that works. But

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<v Speaker 1>people have continued to work on it, and we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty incredible implementations. For example, there's the company in

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<v Speaker 1>Japan called Cyberdyne. But let's okay, quick, Joe, what significance

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<v Speaker 1>does the name Cyberdyne have in science fiction? Cyberdyne is

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the corporation and the Terminator franchise that

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<v Speaker 1>creates sky Net and the Terminator robots. Sky Net is

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<v Speaker 1>the super intelligence that decides to wipe out all of humanity,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, originally designed to command their missile defense program,

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<v Speaker 1>also creates Terminators, creates T you know, T one thousands,

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<v Speaker 1>all the all the Robert Patricks, all the Arnold Schwarzenegger

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<v Speaker 1>is all the what's her name from Terminator, So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just pretend that didn't exist. So what you're arguing is

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<v Speaker 1>that perhaps the name Cyberdyne is not the most does

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<v Speaker 1>of killing all humans. Okay, But but here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. They're actual their actual exoskeleton has a

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<v Speaker 1>totally different name. I'm sure it's gonna solve all the problems.

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<v Speaker 1>It's named how okay. How of course, being from from

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucking Film to Space had another exam intelligence that

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<v Speaker 1>tried to kill humans. Yeah, so it's got the Cyberdyne hall.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, what can go wrong? Um No, But

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<v Speaker 1>this this is a company that was founded by a

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<v Speaker 1>professor from the University of Tokuba named Dr Yoshi Yoki

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<v Speaker 1>sun Kai. And uh I thought you were gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>like Professor Blofeld, not quite, it's exactly his name was. No,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind, anyway, we're not gonna we're gonna not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make this even more ridiculous. So, uh, the professor founded

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<v Speaker 1>this company, and he actually has very altruistic goals according

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<v Speaker 1>to the website. Anyways, he really wants to create an

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<v Speaker 1>exo skeleton that can quote that's intended to rather a

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<v Speaker 1>quote for the benefits of humankind in the field of medicine, caregiving, welfare, labor,

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<v Speaker 1>heavy works, entertainment and so on end quote. So they

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<v Speaker 1>are looking at lots of different purposes for this, including

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<v Speaker 1>using it to lift heavy things in a repetitive of

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<v Speaker 1>way to avoid injury that you might suffer either because

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<v Speaker 1>you're lifting something that's really heavy or that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do a repetitive task uh throughout the day. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>these are things that can easily create either acute or

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<v Speaker 1>long term injuries in people. And the idea would be

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<v Speaker 1>this particular kind of exo skeleton would take on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the weight of whatever task you're doing. Right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually hypothetically feels weightless while you're wearing it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it works by picking up your your nerve signals subcutaneously

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<v Speaker 1>and interpreting them into motion. Uh, they've They've also built

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of models that are radiation shielded, presumably for

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<v Speaker 1>work in a houkachima and clean up sites like that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you look at the one that has

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<v Speaker 1>the radiation shielding on it, you can start to see

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<v Speaker 1>maybe why someone might think RoboCop was an exo skeleton. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>even though that's not correct, but very RoboCop issue. I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue that that the design of many of these

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to be cross influenced by some of these

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<v Speaker 1>media portrayals. Oh sure, yeah they' There is no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>that at least some of these designs are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of capture that same feel of various media portrayals,

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<v Speaker 1>not all of them. Some of them are very utilitarian.

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<v Speaker 1>They're specifically designed just to do what they're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're just about to talk about a bunch of that,

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<v Speaker 1>yes we are. Uh so, those are the cyber Dine

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<v Speaker 1>one and the G one are the two that I

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<v Speaker 1>listed as uh, industrial exoskeletons meant too, they were meant

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<v Speaker 1>to try and help in these kind of work tasks.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the military is working on these, aren't they,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you'd be right. First of all, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned in the g E one that that was

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<v Speaker 1>funded by the military. Another military funded project was the

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<v Speaker 1>Berkeley Lower Extremity Exo Skeleton or BLEAKS, which was funded

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<v Speaker 1>by DARPA in two thousand. It was specifically meant to

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<v Speaker 1>help soldiers carry heavy loads on long marches. Right like

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<v Speaker 1>that happens so soldiers have to do all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have to get a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 1>with who are carrying a lot of equipment to a

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<v Speaker 1>remote location where vehicles are not an option, then this

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<v Speaker 1>is a way of offsetting that weight so that the

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers are not exhausting themselves just getting from point A

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<v Speaker 1>to point B. So that was the basic um premises

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<v Speaker 1>of the basic the basic task that they had when

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to create these things. They're also looking

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<v Speaker 1>at them not just for soldiers, but for first responders

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<v Speaker 1>like firefighters who might need to carry quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of equipment themselves in order to get to a remote

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<v Speaker 1>location to be able to fight a fire. You know,

0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't always get a fire truck there or all

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<v Speaker 1>the other equipment that they need to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>help people in that kind of situation. So this was

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<v Speaker 1>a way of creating something that would support that weight.

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<v Speaker 1>And again you're looking at kind of a harness, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>harness that has various methods of offsetting weight and creating

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<v Speaker 1>its own amount of energy to supplement what you have

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can more easily carry a heavier load.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the basic idea. Also, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys got a chance to watch the video, did you.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw pictures, but I didn't watch it in motions.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I watched the video, and I've written in

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<v Speaker 1>my notes here and I'm not gonna say it the

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<v Speaker 1>way it is in the show, because otherwise I will

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<v Speaker 1>blow out the microphone. But it's whisper why I said's

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded like you're wearing a snowblower. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe maybe not for stealth missions, but but but

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<v Speaker 1>but the way it's working here technically is it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>got this pair of powered legs and the sensors and

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<v Speaker 1>the legs and shoepads figure out what you're doing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then hydraulics in the system do all the heavy lifting

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<v Speaker 1>for you. It should hypothetically let you carry seventy pounds

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<v Speaker 1>and feel as though you're only carrying five. Interesting, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty awesome. There's another example of military harnesses UH

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<v Speaker 1>and Exo skeletons called the Exos two. Now, grant, there

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<v Speaker 1>was an Exos, so it's not like they just started

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<v Speaker 1>with Exos two. Know that the first one was more

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<v Speaker 1>of a concept than anything else. It's still kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in that phase. But this was developed by company called Sarcos,

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<v Speaker 1>which was eventually acquired by Raytheon and now is a

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<v Speaker 1>division of Raytheon. It's one of their their research and

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 1>development divisions. UM, and they got a contract from DARPA

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 1>to develop a powered exo skeleton suit again for the military.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Exos, the original Exos designed by Steve Jacobson,

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool, large tethered suit that could um could

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<v Speaker 1>care could pick up a pretty impressive amount of weight.

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<v Speaker 1>But then in UH they debuted the Exos two and

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of tied that in with a film that

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<v Speaker 1>was coming and they well, they they connected the first

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Exos with a movie called Iron Man, but Exos two

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 1>they connected with another movie, Iron Man too, so UM,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a smaller, lighter, more streamlined unit than

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<v Speaker 1>the original Exos and UH again pretty impressive if you

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<v Speaker 1>ever watched the video, right, I mean it could do stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it could repeatedly lift some two pounds, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>for a few hours on end without getting tired. The

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>machine apparently it made it feel like it was just

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<v Speaker 1>ten pounds. The pilot, that's what they called the operator,

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>was able to lift two hundred pounds and said he did.

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>He would do fifty reps at a time and say like, yeah,

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the only reason I stopped because I got bored. Yeah yeah.

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Or or could could punch through three inches of solid wood, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could. This is where you get into that

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<v Speaker 1>that fighting robots kind of approach, the Rockham sockem deal,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of cool. Or kick a soccer ball. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>actually I saw him punch a soccer ball out of

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<v Speaker 1>the air. They toss a soccer ball to him and

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>he went Although that's actually I mean, that sounds ridiculous

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 1>after those other big, heavy, heavy kind of things, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's really cool to have a machine that can do

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<v Speaker 1>both those heavy things and something delicate like not obliterate

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>a soccer ball when you hit it. Well, it also

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>can move fast, right right, I mean that's the other thing,

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 1>like if you think of exoskeletons. If you think of

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 1>something like the loader from Aliens, you imagine something that's

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<v Speaker 1>moving super slow, right, it's taking these these kind of

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, anytime you think of a giant thing, it's

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<v Speaker 1>moving at this really slow pace, you know, kind of

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>lumbering like an elephant or something. But it turns out

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that this particular exoskeleton you can move pretty fast. And

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>in fact, that's another thing that the pilot liked to

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>show off. He would do jabs and even used a

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>uh like the speed punching bag and show off that

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you could move really quickly just as you know, essentially

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 1>just as quickly as you could without the suit on

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but you could still move a lot

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>faster than you would imagine wearing something like this, and

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that in part goes to show how advanced the computer

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:41.439
<v Speaker 1>systems are, because they would actually study the kinetics of

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>all the human movements to make sure that the suit

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>could keep up and keep pace so that you're not

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>like limited to the super slow kind of approach right right. Um.

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>As of as of its released back in the company

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>was working on decreasing the power needed for for the

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>suit by making these really efficient serves UM so that

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it could use a combustion engine instead of hydraulics, which

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 1>would make everything UM so much lighter and cheaper and

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't necessarily have to be tethered to something. Yeah.

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 1>The next one is UM. Well it's not iron Man based,

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>it's hulk based. Okay, so it got gamma mutated. Yes,

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was actually working on an experiment. Was No,

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not the nothing incredible hulk that's spelled that way.

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>It's h u l C. Yeah, the Human Universal Load

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Carrier and Lockeed Martin is the company that has designed this,

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>which was yet another military exoskeleton and UM. This one

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to allow soldiers to carry around two hundred

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:48.120
<v Speaker 1>pounds or for up to twelve miles or twenty kilometers

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.439
<v Speaker 1>on a single battery charge, meaning that you would be

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>able to carry this two pound pack and uh, and

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't you wouldn't feel all that weight on you.

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 1>It's another hydraulic system, but it's untethered and it's a titan.

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>It's made of titanium and also modular and design, which

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>is really important if you're in the military and you

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>have a failure of any part of your suit and

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you need to switch it out. If it's modular, then

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that means that you have a much greater capability of

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>doing that on the fly. You might need not have to,

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, dismantle the entire suit in order to fix it. Now,

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you would require that you carry spare parts obviously, so

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that might be something that's in that two hundred pound

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>packet carrying. UM. If it turns out that the whole

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>suit weighs two hundred pounds and all the spare parts

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>way two hundred pounds, then I guess it would mean

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that you're just carrying another suit. But yeah, you might

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>as well carry a second hulk. Yeah, why not? That

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>would be incredible. Um this one I I found that

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>they've done a lot of testing about the wearer's metabolic

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 1>rate through through their oxygen consumption, which was pretty fascinating.

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>They found that wearers oxygen used decreased by about five

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>to twelve percent, and that's without a load. With with

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>a load it got with an eighty one pound load

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>to be very specific, UM it got even better. The

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the oxygen use decreased by by on average, so UM,

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>which basically just means that it is effective at decreasing

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>exhaustion over a period of time. Right, So essentially you

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>could say, like, this person is not breathing as hard

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>as they would if they in fact had an unassisted load,

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like they were just carrying it all on their own. Interesting. Uh,

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 1>And then we get into this is actually my favorite

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>use of exo skeletons because I find it the most inspiring.

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I also think it's the most likely to occur within

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the next say, five to ten years. Yeah, that we're

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about medical exo skeletons. Exoskeletons that are meant to

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>help UH patients and therapists together to be able to

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>treat lots of different issues. So one of the one

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>ones I want to talk about is LOPES, which stands

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>for lower extremity Powered exoskeleton. And if you're thinking, wait

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a minute, those words don't make the word lopes. They

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>get a little creative with the capitalization that. But it's

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>meant to help stroke survivors train themselves how to walk.

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>So people have suffered a stroke and have mobility issues

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>as a result of that often have to go through

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a really long period of physical therapy just to regain

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>some portion of that mobility. And the idea is that

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>this particular powered exoskeleton would would aid a stroke victim

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>in making those steps to retrain themselves so that eventually

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>they be able to have those mobility that mobility regained

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>without the use of the exoskeleton. So the goal of

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>this one is that eventually the patient no longer needs it. Um.

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>It's also, as the project points out, beneficial to therapists

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>who often need to jump in and help people and phone. Yeah, like,

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the patient may suddenly, uh start to to fade and

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>need physical assistance right then and there, and the therapist

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>has to come in and end up taking on that

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>weight to safely lower the patient or get the patients

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>somewhere where you know that's they're no longer in danger

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>of getting hurt as a result of falling down. So

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>this can contribute to the therapist becoming exhausted or injured

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>in some way. So the idea is that with this

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>particular kind of exo skeleton, the patient, all that weight

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>gets taken on by the exo skeleton, not the therapist,

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>so it could in theory help both the medical practitioner

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and the patient, which I thought was really an interesting

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.239
<v Speaker 1>way of looking at it. This is a project that

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>is constantly looking at bringing new people on to kind

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of develop the program further, and it's very similar to

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>some of the other ones we're going to talk about.

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>For example, Argo Medical Technologies came up with Rewalk, which

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>is their name for their medical exo skeleton. Um Argo

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Medical Technologies was founded by Dr Amitt Goffer, who in

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>fact is a quadriplegic and wanted to develop up an

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>exoskeleton that would allow paraplegics to regain the ability to walk.

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>So this is for people who have suffered spinal injuries

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and other injuries that would prevent them from being able

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to use their lower extremities. So it's against an exo

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>skeleton that's going to support their weight. Uh. They generally

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>are using crutches along with us to maintain balance because

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>there's only so much that these can do right now.

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I assume that maybe in the future will get to

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a point where, because of advanced gyroscopes, we may even

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>see a time where where most people won't even need

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the use of crutches. That's not the case right now, um.

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously that would require incredible finesse on the

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>part of the mechanics. Right some of some of the

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>projects that have been coming out of Honda's development labs

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>have been kind of sort of working towards something like that, right,

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>but and and some of the one of the other

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>ones will talk about kind of is leaning towards that

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:59.719
<v Speaker 1>direction too. So this EXO skeleton is already in service

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>right now, mostly in Europe. There are a few places

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>that use in the United States, but technically it's awaiting

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>FDA approval for a widespread rollout. But it's even just

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to test stuff like that, you actually have to have

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>really extensive checks and balances and regulations in place exactly,

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're having to write these regulations on the fly.

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that Europe has is a little bit ahead

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>of the curve um versus the United States. Right. Yeah,

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>anytime you're talking about anything that has a medical claim,

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the f d A has oversight of that and you

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>have to meet the FDA's criteria before you can start

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>to market something. So in this case, this one is

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>being used for physical therapy as well as allowing people

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>who otherwise would not be able to get up and

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>walk around to actually do that. And it's pretty incredible stuff. Uh.

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>There is now a new device called the rewalk Personal

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>relatively new. In two thousand twelve they launched it. So

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the rewalk Personal is meant to be a day to

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>day device, So that would be something that paraplegics could use. Uh,

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, they could actually have that along with a wheelchair.

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.719
<v Speaker 1>So most of the devices were talking about there in

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a testing phase where it's just in a research facility.

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they partner with the hospital and they get um

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>a volunteer, perhaps a paraplegic to volunteer and test these out.

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>But this is one where someone could actually get one

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>of these devices for themselves. And then we've got the

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>vendor built powered exoskeleton, which is kind of similar. This

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>one comes from the Center for Intelligent Mechatronics, which is

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>probably the coolest center name I have ever seen. So

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it's another lower body powered exoskeleton designed to help people

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>who have suffered spinal injuries be able to walk around again.

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>And it weighs twenty seven pounds which is about twelve

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>kilograms and has been tested on people that way up

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>to two pounds or uh. These controls are actually very

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>similar to the way the segue is controlled. You know,

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're on a have you guys ever written a segue.

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I've never been on one, but I've read about how

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.719
<v Speaker 1>they were. Okay, I've I have written on a segue.

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that video is not online because um, there

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>is a learning current, believe it or not. And I

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>did not fall off. Um. I very nearly veered well

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>outside of the segue driving range into heavy foot traffic.

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>This was a Disney World where heavy foot traffic is

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>part and parcel. R Jonathan, did you kill someone? The

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>tears ran freely that day on Disney World. No, I

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't hit anybody, but I did. I did definitely have

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a few moments where I was afraid I was about

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 1>to veer well outside of the area. I was good,

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>but it was comical to watch anyway. The point is,

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the way you you drive these things is by leaning right.

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>The ideas that you you lean forward as if you

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>were going to take a step, and then that that's

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>how the segway knows to move forward, and then if

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you start to lean back, it will be a breaking

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>my mechanism. Very similar set of controls are on the

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Vanderbilt Power Exo skeleton, where leaning is what gives the

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the Exo skeleton the information that all right, this is

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>what I need to do. So for example, if you're

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in a seated position and you lean forward, that tells

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the exo skeleton that you want to extend the legs

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and stand up. So a paraplegic with crutches for balance

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 1>could lean forward and that would then tell the exo

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>skeleton to extend and then the paraplegic standing up, and

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 1>then the paraplegic can lean forward and start to walk forward,

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and if they want to slow down, they start leaning back.

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's a really kind of cool example. It's very

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>similar to that, and one that was on display at

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>c E S two thousand and fourteen. I did not

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>attend the particular press event where this was shown off,

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>but I got to see video later and I'm so

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>upset that I wasn't there. But the XO U e

0:35:56.080 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 1>K S O U XO, sometimes called the e Legs I,

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.720
<v Speaker 1>was shown off at two thousand fourteen, another lower body

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>exo skeleton designed to give paraplegics more freedom, more more

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>options when it comes to moving around their environments. So

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the version they showed at c E S, there was

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>a guy in it who was using crutches and the

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>controls for the exo skeleton. We're in the crutches themselves,

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>so he could control when the exo skeleton would take

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a step. Yeah, so it actually has three different phases

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>in this. The first phase is that you have a

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>medical practitioner who actually initiates when each step is taken,

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>so in other words, a second person is there and

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>will work with the patient to learn how to use

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>this device. The second step is when you get the

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>crutches that have the controls built into them, so the

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>patient has the complete control of the device itself. The

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>third step is where it's very much like the Vendorbilt

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>powered Exo skeleton in that again, by leaning you give

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the commands. So now the commands are built directly into

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and these are different mode that you can put the

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>exo skeleton into, but you can engage this mode and

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>then the commands are all on the shifting of weight,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>and so you would no longer be activating it through

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the crutches. You would do it by leaning and that

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>would tell the exo skeleton which way to move. And

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>it actually has a secondary phase within that that gives

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it even more subtle control. It's pretty cool stuff. So

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>all of these obviously are meant to give some uh

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>some more options for physical therapy and just mobility for

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>people who obviously otherwise would have very limited options. Um And,

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>like I said, the video from CS two thousand fourteen, Now,

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>this this featured a guy who's been working with them

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>for more than two years, a paraplegic who's been working

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:46.439
<v Speaker 1>with him for more than two years. But showing him

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 1>walking around on stage, you could hear gasps in the audience.

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Because this is a technology that while it's been around

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, you know, outside of a few reports,

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<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot of people know about it, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a couple of news reports where it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>treated as you know, uh, here's that last interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>before they go to the next program. And meanwhile, I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so amazing and it's a whole half hour.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the really big bunny from down the street.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to know how this works.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know how it's transforming lives. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what the future applications are. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know how, ultimately something like this could give a person

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<v Speaker 1>who otherwise would feel like they had lost all of

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<v Speaker 1>that capability to get it back. I mean to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like an amazing story and really really uplifting. And

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, of course, these exoskeletons, they're getting better

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<v Speaker 1>and better each generation. They're finding better ways to to

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<v Speaker 1>maximize efficiency, to create more intuitive control systems. So my

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<v Speaker 1>hope is that we see even better versions of this

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<v Speaker 1>down the line, and that we start seeing them used

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<v Speaker 1>in the other applications we've talked about, where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's more than just a proof of concept, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an actual thing that people are using that is increasing

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<v Speaker 1>our capabilities. Yeah. Yeah, letting a firefighter rescue people better,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool. Yeah, and letting letting me join up

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<v Speaker 1>with my buddies to form Vultron. I just have tiny demands. Alright, So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>anything else on exo skeletons you guys want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the possibility of you getting utterly crushed

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<v Speaker 1>inside of a Vultron esque machine is pretty high. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you were gonna say, like, it's enough for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were gonna just say I thought she

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<v Speaker 1>was just gonna say is really funny. So I, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>and I are on the same page here, alright. So, guys,

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